Picture this: It’s 1989. Like a Prayer is the Number One song, and we’re all in love with Frank from Home and Away and the Coreys from The Lost Boys.
Six pre-teen girls in their daggiest pjs and animal slippers, sleeping bags and pillows spread all over the lounge room floor, are huddled around the coffee table. There have been videos, pizza, chips, gossip, giggling, and lots of talk about boys. Finally it’s really late. Someone suggests it and no one wants to chicken out. The lights are dimmed and the rest of the house is silent with sleep. Torn pieces of paper form a circle around the table top – hastily scrawled numbers 0 to 9, the alphabet, and Yes, No, Maybe, written and pink and purple smelly pens (remember them?). I think the ‘I’ and ‘j’ had hearts for dots.
An upside down glass sits in the middle of the circle, and we’re giggling with anticipation and self induced fright, huddled together, reluctant to place our fingers on the glass and set the ouija board into motion….but we do. And after a couple of false starts (“I was NOT pushing it! You were!”, “Omigod! What was that noise?”), the gaggle descends into terrified quiet, whispering questions that clearly only a ghost would know. You know, like “Does Liam like me?”, “Is Mrs Harris having it off with Mr Turner?” or “Will I have big boobs one day?” Serious questions to ask the spirit world – when you are twelve! The glass is moving, spelling out answers which we all quietly whispered, letter by letter. We are terrified but entranced; it is working! After a few minutes of pretty lame questions one of my brave friends asks the spirits for a physical sign that they are there. We hold our collective breaths.
Nothing happens….
Until we caught sight of my mother’s rocking chair in the corner. The mere thought of it still gives me goose bumps – it was moving on its own, back and forth ever so slightly in the dim light. Propped in its seat was the big rag doll my mother loved who in that moment looked positively demonic. In nanoseconds we were up, whisper-shrieking, grabbing at the paper pieces before bolting outside, snagging a matchbox on the way. It took ages for the match to light. My hands were shaking so badly but the little paper pile dumped in the garden bed went up in flames. Conscious of not setting the fernery on fire, we poured water on it and watched it sizzle out; relieved we had “stopped” the spirits. I think we were supposed to smash the glass too but that wasn’t the best idea at 2am! The spirits were released now, not going to communicate with us anymore. Then, as we turned to head back inside an evil, angry face appeared at the laundry door window. It hovered there for a moment before the door began to open…..
If the neighbours weren’t already awake, they certainly were now! The screams and carry on would have woken the dead (had they not already been in our presence, haha). Turns out it was not an angry ghost, but instead my VERY angry mum. She told us all off, marched us back inside, and advised in no uncertain terms that everyone’s parents would be called to collect them if we didn’t go to sleep. Now.
Despite the subsequent grounding I endured, I still recall that night so vividly, with both fondness and thrilling fear. I don’t know if that chair really moved. Nonetheless the experience not only cemented young friendships and made for an awesome story on Monday, but it opened my eyes to ghosts and the spirit world. Granted, my rocking chair was no Fruit Roll-Up in an IGA, but gosh it scared the pants off me and I am SO sure it really happened. I think.
Since then I have loved being scared by ghost stories, and watching Ghost Hunter type shows. I’ve never done another séance, but I’ve (nervously) participated in ghost tours, spoken to mediums, researched haunted houses, sightings, visited Edinburgh Castle and The Tower of London, and would love to spend the night at Monte Cristo here in Australia. I believe I have both seen the spirit of my grandfather who passed twenty odd years ago, and had a physical encounter with a spirit at the Q Station in Manly.
Is it all my imagination? Maybe. Maybe even probably. But is it fun and thrilling? Absolutely. I may not have definitive proof in many peoples’ eyes, but then, who does? I just love the idea of The Other Side. And being scared.
Shae Blizzard is in her mid thirties. In her rare spare time, she reads like a demon and attempts to write supernatural chick lit and historical comedy mysteries.
What about you? Do you believe? Have you ever seen a ghost? What’s the scariest, most ghostly thing that has happened to you?







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I am generally a big skeptic about these sorts of things… My theory is that if ghosts were real, then I would be able to see or speak to my much loved and missed grandmother who passed 4 years ago. And I never have been. But… I had this one very strange experience when I was on a school camp in Mansfield: I was sleeping in a bunk room with about 9 other girls. I woke up in the middle of the night to what I thought was my friend, Alice, standing next to my bed looking down at me. It looked just like her (in the half light) short blonde hair, same body build, etc. But this girl was wearing a long, short sleeve white nightie. I was fairly groggy when I first awoke, and remember slurring out ‘Alice go to bed’. Then I turned over to face the wall. And I felt the weight of a person hop into bed next to me. At this point I had woken up a little more, and remember feeling terrified, because I got a feeling that this wasn’t actually Alice. I lay absolutely still and eventually fell back asleep. The next morning I told Alice what had happened, and she confirmed that she had not walked over to my bed, nor was she wearing a nightie! At the time, i was 100% sure it had all been real and I hadn’t dreamed the whole thing. But now, in retrospect, I find myself thinking there is no other explanation. Who knows – maybe this ghost girl will have to visit me again to renew my belief in the paranormal! But for now, I will put that incident down to an over-active 15 yr old imagination.
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That was probably sleep paralysis! I get it sometimes.
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Oh gawd yes, I get sleep paralysis A LOT. Remember the first time I got it in 2007 and it was fr-eaky.
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You were going to write a post on this weren’t you?
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I was! Many moons ago. Last year, in fact. Could always dig it up again.
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yes please do Rick. I get sleep paralysis, not as much as I used to thankfully. I hate it so much but i’m finally learning not to fear it so much now that I understand it a bit more. When I get it I wake up but can’t move yet I feel like my bed is being lifted and i’m being shaken from side to side. It’s horrible. Anyway the more you know about these things the less scary they are.
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Definitely! I’ve learned to channel mine into lucid dreaming because the onset of SP is so unique I now can realise when I am drifting into a dream state and use it to my advantage. Now I love it!
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I used to experience sleep paralysis ALL THE TIME. And each “episode” was intense. I used to have it so often I could induce it and control what was happening. Crazy. Its also one of my favourite things to talk about. People who haven’t experienced it just think I’m weird.
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One of the hallmarks of sleep paralysis is (apart from being paralysed upon waking for a short time) exceedingly vivid hallucinations and a sensation that a heavy weight is either sitting on your chest or in the bed beside you. I have experienced both frequently and can assure you the first time I thought I was going loopy because it was SO real.
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Yep – I’ve had exactly the same experiences too…it’s perfectly normal, not “supernatural”…
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Dunno about ghosts, exactly, but I do know I’m very very connected to the people I love.
1) my husband was in a fierce battle in Iraq. While the worst of it was happening, I was at home having the mother of all panic attacks. I wasnt worried for him at any other time There was no way I could have known what was going on.
2) I woke up screaming and crying one night, after having a shocking realistic dream my friend had had been shot in the leg in Iraq. He had been, right at the time I woke. Again, no way I could have possibly known that it had happened. I didn’t actually hear the news until 2 the next afternoon.
3) Again, I woke up randomly and in the brief time before being fully awake, I had the image of a balloon rising from my body then popping a foot above my chest. It was the exact time my grandmother passed.
So, all of these occurrences form a pattern, but not one I’m sure that I want to acknowledge. I’m a sceptic.
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I know what you mean Archie, Ive never had anything nearly as profound as that happen to me though, but my mother, brother and I are very connected in the same way, we all live in different states. things like I’ll be thinking about a certain topic to do with my mum – the most recent being “we should go for pedicures when she comes to visit next week” at that moment she rang me and said “hey, I was thinking, do you want to go for pedi’s when I come visit next week?” I’ll ring my brother and he’ll answer the phone saying he was just thinking about me, things like that. The most profound experience we have had was when we were all living in Sydney, I got on the train after school and just *knew* mum was on the same train (even though I knew it wasnt the end of her working day) , I went into the next carriage and there she was, looking at me like she knew I was coming, she wasnt surprised to see me at all! next thing my brother entered from the other carriage, walked over and said casually “I knew you pair were here”. Its hard to explain things like that. . .
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Jess, your connection with your family is beautiful! That train experience has made my day. x
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My mum had a very similar, strong connection like that with her mother and apparently my older brother when he was a child. Whilst I still love hearing the stories I’ve always been jealous I didn’t share this special connection!
My BIL’s father just passed away 2 weeks ago and some freaky stuff happened at the family home for 3 nights between his death and the funeral, lanterns being switched on etc. The weirdest one was their long glass outdoor table smashed into a million pieces on the ground during fine weather, the china ornaments on top (belonging to his mother) also fell to the ground but were completely intact. Apparently the mother had been nagging her husband for months to replace that outdoor setting as she didn’t like it!
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I know what you mean too Archie. My brother and mate served in Iraq a few years ago. I dreamt one night that I was over there with them as a nurse, brother’s mate got shot and died in my arms. I woke up in a cold sweat and knew something was wrong. When I told my brother about it later, at that moment his friend’s veichle was hit by an roadside bomb and he almost died.
Freaky. They both made it back in one piece (sort of!) Hope your husband did too.
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He did, he’s making me toast right now
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I don’t believe, only because I’m petrified I will see something. I actually started reading the comments, and had to stop, I’m home alone tonight and need to sleep!!!
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Same. I’ve had what I’m pretty sure are a couple of visits from relatives and from my late and very loved cat. It didn’t frighten me, I loved it.
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cool, exactly! Felt like loving visits. I hope my much loved dog can come and say hi when she passes on, I’ll be missing her so much.
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Ooh, I just remembered another good scarefest! One of my ex co-workers had a brother in law who worked as a grave digger at the Springvale Necropolis cemetery. He’s seen and heard it all from the tap on the shoulder at a graveside while filling in a grave, to someone coughing in his ear when he was alone and getting shoved into an open grave. One time he was waiting for a funeral to finish in the mausoleum section of the cemetery when he saw a guy nearby who had been standing with the mourners turn and walk through the wall of one of the family crypts. A few weeks later the headstone was delivered to that grave and he had to help the stone mason with the placement, it was one of those fancy headstones with a photo embedded in it. The picture was of the man he had seen walking through the crypt wall.
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A friend of mine is buried at Springvale. It’s a nice place on a sunny afternoon but I certainly wouldn’t want to be there by myself after dark, that’s for sure.
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A few years ago, probably 6 or 7 years ago now, I was at the Springvale Necropolis and saw a whole bridal party taking their wedding photos there. I thought they were crazy to do that. I mean, I don’t really believe in omens and all that but to take wedding photo’s in a cemetery?! Are you nuts??
Have always wondered how their photos turned out and if there were any “interesting” additions…
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I dunno, I’m totally into unconventional weddings but that to me seems a tad disrespectful. Unless maybe there was a beloved relative there who they wanted to be part of the day. In which case it’s kind of sweet.
But if it was just the novelty of it, I think it’s kind of uncool. The same reason when I’m just wandering through a cemetery to sightsee, I steer clear of people who are obviously visiting loved ones, out of respect.
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I have seen wedding pictures that were taken at a graveyard. They were very beautiful. Maybe it is symbolic to the bride and groom of their wedding vow “until death do us part.”
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I can’t remember the details, but I think MAYBE Russians (or not russians? No idea) often visit loved ones graves on their wedding day to include them in the family celebrations. I wish I could remember more about it but as soon as I read your comment I remember reading about a wedding tradition like that.
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I used to live in a house on an estate that was reputedly built on an old burial ground and my housemate and I both experienced phenomena in that house. The main culprits were, as we liked to call them, were the breather, the toucher, the old man and the noisy kid. You always knew when they were around as my housemate’s dog would sit for hours still as a statue staring into a particular corner and later that night stuff would happen. Footsteps, heavy breathing, stuff being moved around etc.
One night I awoke suddenly to see a child of about 5 years old, with blonde bobbed hair standing next to my bed. She turned and ran through the bedroom door, down the hallway and disappeared into my housemate’s wardrobe in her bedroom. The sound of running footsteps woke her up and the dog went nuts. I swear that bloody wardrobe was some kind of spirit portal!
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I once stayed at a hostel in Edinburgh that was over the road from an ancient burial ground. We had to get up extra early the next morning to catch a train. I woke at 8, cursing as I’d slept in and missed my train. Turns out not a single person’s alarm had gone off in the hostel that morning!
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My grandmother died a couple of years before my grandfather and my mum had, weirdly I know, put her ashes in the linen press at her house. She said later she couldn’t think what to do with them until she had grandpa’s as well – they’d been married almost 60 years. Anyway, on the day of my grandpa’s funeral my husband and I went back to Mum’s house to feed their dogs while Mum and Dad stayed at my Grandpa’s house to sort out the myriad of things that needed to be sorted. Anyway, the husband and I went early to bed and an hour or so later we hear this weird staticky noise and far away music. It was coming from the linen press! I opened it and there was a defunct old radio, with no batteries and not plugged in, and it had started playing music. It was my grandpa’s old radio. My husband almost shat himself, but I felt a sense of peace. Sounds silly, but to me it felt like grandpa was letting me know they were together and everything was OK. Never had anything like it before or since, but to me it felt like a reasssuring message sent with love from the other side.
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Nope, I totally get it. It’s comforting for two reasons- they’re telling you they’re ok, and in a way it makes our own death less scary if there’s a possibility it isn’t the end.
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I went to visit my brother in Beechworth, Vic and was waiting for him to finish work at a nearby restaurant in the old pub on the main street. The place was empty on a Sunday night and you had to walk quite far out the back and down some stairs to go to the ladies’ toilets.
When I walked down the stairs a tap was dripping and the light was on. But while I was in the toilet cubicle I heard a ‘switch’, the light went off and the tap stopped dripping. Complete silence.
I legged it out of there (in the dark). No one was about. I ran into the front room and told my partner straight away. He said no one else had been around.
The publican came over later and introduced himself. I told him “your pub is very scarey”. He looked at me, raised his eye brows and said:
“I don’t believe any of that shit”.
“But I was in the toilets….” I said.
“Oh yeah, the toilets. Girls are always running out of there”.
He then went on to tell us about all the strange quirks of the place – even throwing in his first hand experience, before adding: “but I don’t believe any of that stuff!”
Beechworth is such an interesting place and if you’re interested in that kind of stuff, it’s worth checking out.
Plus it’s beautiful and there’s plenty of good food and wine to be had!
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If we’re talking about the same pub, I was there last year but didn’t happen to go into the toilets…thank god!
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You should go on the Beechworth Asylum Ghost Tour. It’s really worth it, no only for the scare factor, but the history & injust treatment of patients incarcerated in the Beechworth Asylum.
The presenter is awesome, & apart from a rogue possum who scared the daylights out of half the group, I definitely felt something going on.
In the room where people were assessed for being admitted I felt an overwhelming sadness, I was on the verge of tears by the time we walked out. Several other areas I experienced some extremely intense emotions that as soon as we left the room dissipated.
I was game enough to lie on the autopsy table as the presenter talked about the experiments & ‘treatments’ trialled in the asylum, all I felt was complete calm, until we walked out of the ‘hospital’ building I was suddenly very angry about the way I had been ‘treated’.
The scariest bit was in a basement room where the only light was the presenters lamp in front of us. He was sharing numerous encounters in that area where prisoners had been kept when the jail was too full, when I saw a shadow pass along the wall beside us. I whispered to my now husband “Did you see that?’ He replied “That shadow?’ I nodded. There was no possible explanation for a shadow along a wall when there was no light & no person to cast it.
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My father saw a ghost at Esperance when we were there on holiday. He was walking down the beach on a late afternoon and a figure came up from the depths of the ocean,walked across the road and through the wall of a building.
He came back terrified to where we were staying and he insisted that we went home the next day and he refused to ever set foot in Esperance again.
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What was he scared of?
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He had no reason at all to be scared of the ghost bbecause it didn’t menace him in anyway. He was terrified of the sight and the concept
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As a palliative care nurse, I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that they exist. There is an ‘other side.’
Every civilization since the dawn of time has known of the spirit world. Because scientists can’t prove it exists doesn’t mean it doesn’t.
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ooohh I would love to hear some of your stories.
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Me too!
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Me three!!!
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Yes I do believe. I saw a ghost with my own eyes of someone who had passed away that day. I still remember it very clearly and I must have only been about 7-8. I was sure my parents wouldn’t believe me so I told them I saw a man outside my room, what I didn’t say was that I could see through him. Turns out after talking about it years later with my mum they had been with someone who had died that day and the person I described was that man (I even described what he had been wearing). The animals in our house all went nuts that night and my mother felt someone in the room but didn’t actually see anyone. I guess I would be cynical if it hadn’t happened to me but I think sometimes spirits get a bit lost and need to finish something or aren’t quite ready to leave. In saying that I have relatives very close to me die and I have had no contact from them. I’m not sure spirits can necessarily come back if they want to.
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Loved this story!!!!
Reminded me of similar experiences back on the day.
Also have a fascination of all things ghostly and spooky!!!!!!!!
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I’m with you Shae, I LOVE this stuff. Best fun I had overseas was doing the Dublin Ghost Tour. Brilliant!
I’ve had my own experiences, and I’m sure skeptics will scoff, but there will never be a day I will categorically say I know anything with certainty. I don’t know everything, even if I like to think I do. LOL
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Ah, ghost tours. I had a couple of experiences at Port Arthur which to this day I still can’t explain. And the ugliest, most uneasy feeling I’ve ever had was at the Old Melbourne Gaol. Even beyond knowing the place’s history, the vibe in that building is nasty. I actually felt physically ill.
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At the Q Station late last year, there was one cottage I just could NOT go into. All the other people on the tour went in but I stayed outside – and so did the guide! She asked why I stayed and I told her it just felt so wrong. She said she felt the same way – the ghost in there was not a nice guy, and didn’t like her at all so she now didn’t go in with groups. I just got goosebumps as soon as we walked up, yet as much as I had been scared (compounded by the group mentality of a bunch of giggly women wanting to be scared) of all the other places this was the only one that really bothered me. It was a fun tour, and I am quite certain someone (non-corporeal) blew in my ear – a big loud gust that made me jump three feet. And I don’t think it was a “whisper sweet nothings” kind of gesture either.
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I’ve been on the Q-station ghost tour too. What scared me was the morgue, really creepy, nasty feeling in there. Its hard to get a ‘true’ feel for a place with a large group around though, I agree. Couldn’t sleep all night through feeling freaked out. Then again, that could also have had a lot to do with all the free cappucinos from the guest lounge too…
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I’m so keen to go there!
On the ghost tour I went on in Dublin, we were taken to an old cemetary that apparently had seen bodies removed illegally for scientific purposes in the 1800s. The guide was demonstrating this, and we were all clustered around watching. I felt someone come up behind me, turned around and no one was there. But the feeling that someone was close, hanging over my shoulder to watch, stayed with me. He then went on to tell us about the Bishop who’d been walled up alive in the wall behind me. LOL Scared the living daylights out of me!
The Melbourne Ghost Tour was good too, although not as good as the Dublin one. Next time I’m in Sydney I’m going to organise the Q Station one, even if I have to go by myself.
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I lean heavily towards not believing, im pretty cynical about it all. My husband and his mother believe in the supernatural though, he said hes had an experience with a ghost when he was little, never talks much about it though.
All i know is that watching paranormal activity scared the absolute shit out of me, i still dont know why i went back for more with paranormal activity 2.!!!
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Oh god – have you seen Paranormal 3? I still get terrified every time I even think about it!
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I can’t watch any of those films – scary faces and eyes and whatnot. The Ring girl still scares the crap out of me and I watched that once several years ago!!
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You can’t unknow what you already know… but I wish I could!! I did seances from the age of 13 to about 15 and those two years I was very much into the occult and hanging out with people who were also heavily into it (older than me, and some of my friend’s Mum’s were doing it also)
I’ve seen things that were very scary, and I have no doubt that there are spirits. What stopped me for good? A spirit who wouldn’t talk to us and kept pushing the glass to ‘no’. When we asked why, it spelt out DAVID’S STAR. My friend screamed and clutched at her chest and pulled out a David’s Star necklace that she had down the inside of her top.
The three of us screamed like the devil was chasing us and ran outside shaking and crying. It was too spooky and very very dark.
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That’s terrifying. I feel chills just reading that.
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Spirit was anti semantic?
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Or anti-semitic!
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And maybe anti-semitic as well
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I think that’s what cemented that for me, you really do get the riff raff of whatever is about…a lot of the spirits I got coming through seances would say things like ‘kill’ and ‘die’ or just push bits of paper around or shoot the glass off the table. But the one about the David’s Star was extra creepy because it was pretty clear that we weren’t talking to a very nice person. Maybe it really is only good souls who go to a nice place and the rest just hang around in limbo land??
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I worked for Ghost Tours in Brisbane for 5 years taking tours through Toowong Cemetery and have had a few very creepy things happen – though none that I would be willing to say weren’t explainable by rational ways. But possibly the scariest thing that ever happened to me happened in the Edinburgh vaults:
I’d been seeing weird things since I entered. I have never had so many sightings in a single place (but I still don’t feel comfortable saying they were definitely ghosts). We were marched into one of the vaults and separated into men on one side and women on the other. I was standing a little away from the group and in a corner on my own. Then the guide turned the lights out and we were thrown into pitch black. I hate the dark (I know, stupid considering I took ghost tours through a cemetery) so I pressed my back up against the wall so I knew where I was.
About half-way through the story I felt something push into my chest and my heart began to race. I put my hands up to my chest but there was nothing there. Then I heard the story behind the hauntings in that vault is people getting pushed and shoved – that they suspect it has something to do with people being trapped there during a fire. Again, I don’t know if was anything paranormal or if it was just a kick of adrenalin – but it really felt like a palm violently pushing into my chest. I’ve got goosebumps just thinking about it.
As to my experiences on tours – http://ghost-tours.com.au/Pages/ghost_storiesstaff.htm… the bottom two are mine
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Is that at the Greyfriars Kirkyard? That place is notorious.
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Not Greyfriars – The vaults under one of the bridges. After that experience I was done with ghost tours for my holiday and opted out of Greyfriars. I’ll do that one next time
ps. sorry about the link, the fullstops at the end linked themselves automatically – yeah just copy and paste without those at the end and it will work
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I sis the tour that goes to Greyfriars and although nothing happened while I was there, it was certainly very spooky. I couldn’t shake the feeling of being watched.
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I can’t get this link to work – can you type the full url?
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there are a couple of erroneous full stops at the end of the htm link. Just delete them from the address bar when you get the error page and it’ll redirect.
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The Edinburgh vaults are SPOOKY! My friend and I were standing at the back of the group when we went through. We’d stopped and were listening to the guide. I was standing shoulder to shoulder with my friend. She turned to me and said “stop breathing down the back of my neck, it’s freaking me out”. I hadn’t done anything, and the way I was standing there was no way I could breathe on the back of her neck. We were freaked out!
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i’m intrigued by these types of phenomena… wouldn’t really say believe…. or not..
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Yup I definitely believe in them. My father grew up in a house with a ghost who obviously liked women because he only appeared to them. Both my Aunts and my Mum saw him, my Grandmother would never admit it but also didn’t deny it. He would cause a feeling of dread that Mum said was horrific, but my younger Aunt (whose bedroom he mostly turned up in) got so used to him she used to talk to him quite regularly.
My grandfather has appeared to various members of the family on significant occasions.
Our cats hung around for ages until we got the dogs. You could smell them and occasionally see them walking around a corner. Our dogs really love cats so I wonder if they could see them when they were puppies before they disappeared.
And heaps of other experiences. I believe you have to open yourself to the experience, although be careful. If you are of that persuasion and you really open yourself, you could end up like a friend of mine who regularly has ghosts visit her. She wants it to stop but they apparently like her, they just freak her out.
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The world is already pretty freakin’ far out just for existing, why is it such a stretch to think there might be ghosts/some phenomena that would explain ‘ghosts’? Science has its place but its only one form of truth-testing. I am not going to say a person’s personal experience is any less valid for them. Alright, shoot me down now
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“Science has its place but its only one form of truth-testing.”
…and what are those other forms of truth testing? Here-say and conjecture?
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Most people agree on the existence of love though it can’t be proven scientifically. Not that I believe in the paranormal, just that there are certain things that are difficult to measure or explain.
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Something I don’t get about some fundamentalist skeptics (ha HA!) is how it often isn’t, “I don’t believe in that, it doesn’t fit my personal worldview”, but rather “it isn’t true, it isn’t real and anyone who believes differently is an idiot.”
Such absolutist arrogance coming from a spiritual/religious person would be labelled preaching or fundamentalism. Just my 2c…
(For the record, I’m neither believer nor unbeliever. I prefer to try to keep an open mind tempered with a touch of critical thinking.)
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I’m never had a ghosty kind of experience but my friend told me this story and it freaked me out.
When he was younger he lived in Canada with his family; his little brother (Ben) was very young and had his own room in a corner of the house. Apparently Ben just refused to sleep in his room. Would sleep ANYWHERE else – even on the stairs outside – but would just never go in his room. Later they discovered that a man actually died in the room. Creepy…
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I’m not sure I believe in ghosts and hauntings as such, I do believe in spirits though and I do believe in (some, not all) mediums. I saw a medium once who was so spot on about everything in my life, including the passing of two of my pets that year (right down to their species, breeds and personality traits) that I find it hard to be a non-believer. I don’t force my spirituality or beliefs on anyone though and I don’t like it when people try to tell me it’s all fake, just like I don’t like people to trying to force their religion on me and they wouldn’t like me telling them their god doesnt exist.
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Ha ha I loved the Corey’s too! That into could have been me & my
Friends back then!
I do believe in ghosts or spirits cos I have experienced them twice.
The first time was at work I used to be a property manager before kids and managed a house that had a ghost. The tenants also verified this. But more recently in our own house. We bought our house from a man who was selling in on behalf of his now dececed parents. He grew up there with them & his brother. Not long after we moved in late one night my husband & I were asleep and I was woken by a strong smell of old lady perfume. It lingered in our bedroom for a while then went away. Our bedroom was the parents bedroom btw. There are no houses too close to us and no nice smelling gardens around our house. The smell could not b explained. This happened a few times and I never felt scared of it or her the mother. Maybe she was happy her home was sold to a nice couple. We moved out for 18 months and had extensive renovations done to the house. After we moved back in the smell happened again. Always late at night when it’s dark. I haven’t seen anything just this old lady perfume…..
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I have had two expreinces with a spirit, they were both of my partners step father that had recently passed. Was one of the scariest things that has ever happened to me! Luckily I wasn’t alone (boyfriend was with me both times) – he doesn’t like talking about it as it scared him that much! On the plus side it gave him a kick up the butt with his career
(he swears he was there to tell him to pull his head in).
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Cannot even begin to believe in ghosts. That said I really enjoyed reading Casper when I was young
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There have been no scientific studies that have ever been able to prove the existence of ghosts…
There have been no scientific studies that have ever been able to prove the link between vaccinations and autism…
Are you prepared to believe that science is correct about one of those statements and not the other?
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It might be because it is the end of the week and my brain is not working but are you saying you believe in ghosts exist or not? I have read this comment about 5 times and can’t work it out. (totally know it is to do with me and not what you have written)
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I don’t believe in ghosts…if they were real, then with all the modern technology we have today, we’d know about it…
I mean, nearly all of us carry cameras around with us…if ghosts were real, there would be photos and videos on the news every night…
Lot’s of people claim to have seen ghosts, but hard facts are hard to find…
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Ok fair enough thanks for clearing that up for me.
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I agree with Shakespeare: There are more things in heaven and earth than are dreamt of in our philosophies (or measured by our scientific tools). Best to err on the side of ignorance not arrogance and keep an open mind.
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The thing about the study of paranormal study in science is that no matter what the conclusions, it always comes back to a ‘we don’t know’. There is some stuff that’s refuted, but the stuff that’s ‘outside the normal’ becomes a ‘we can’t explain it’. In every other discipline of science, this is the beginning, not the end of the study.
Until we develop better ways to analyse the data, we will have to rest with ‘we don’t know’. Any other assumptions, on either side of the fence, is sheer arrogance.
Any scientist will tell you, a lot of science is built on assumptions and experience. Much like human experience in general really.
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Like I commented above, if ghosts were real, I think we’d know about by now…we have so many different ways of recording things nowadays, filming a ghost should be easy as filming a Kardashian…but it just doesn’t happen…we have no proof of ghosts simply because the don’t exist.
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Hey, cool your jets mister. NOTHING is as easy as filming a Kardashian. They’re like … sunlight.
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I disagree. After all a spirit is not necessarily going to appear on camera or video and start prancing around for all to see. I don’t think we can say just because we can’t see it doesn’t exist. Speaking from first hand experience there are spirits out there and I don’t need a scientist to tell me that because I saw one myself when I was a child and I remember it very clearly.
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I’ve no doubt you saw something…
So have I…weird things…some people choose to call them “ghosts”…I choose to call them “hallucinations”…
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I take offence to you calling my spiritual beliefs and sightings as “hallucinations”.
Certainly not hallucinations…far from it.
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I was just giving you my honest opinion of what I believe…and if you read my comment carefully, you will realise that I only used the term “hallucination” to describe my own personal experience…
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What an incredibly naive comment. You must really struggle with quantum mechanics where obviously the kind of “proof” you are looking for is hard to come by (Higgs boson, quantum superposition theory, Schrodinger’s equation, gravitons, arrow of time/entropy – to name just a few).
The fact that we do not have any proof does not invalidate a theory. Nor does the arrogant assumption that “we would know about it by now”. There was a brief period during the 19th century, when it was pretty much assumed that there was not likely to be any further significant advances in science. What proof we do have, is that those claims were incorrect. Some good points raised here about “scientism” – http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2010/sep/12/russell-stannard-my-bright-idea
And before you get ahead of yourself, I am an agnostic physicist who has yet to experience anything remotely supernatural. All I am certain of though is that a) the absence of proof is not proof of absence and b) always keep an open mind.
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You know, if you really are a scientist, I’m surprised that you’re not aware of the latest studies into ghosts that indicate that some people who experience ghostly phenomenon are in fact experiencing something that appears to be part of the normal operation of the brain.
It is well established that magnetic pulses of 1 or 2 teslas can stimulate neurons in the brain…other studies have shown that some people report mystical sensations when complex magnetic fields are applied to their brains.
Is this an explanation to all ghostly apparitions? Probably not. But I still stand my point. If ghosts are tangible objects, it should be easy to record them using the multitude of recording devices available nowadays. The fact that they are not able to be photographed, to me, makes it more likely that our experiences of ghosts are neurological, not physical. And the science seems to back this…
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Right, well sorry to surprise you. And thanks for calling into question my livelihood. I’m just going to go ahead and ignore your ridiculous statement that just because I am scientist, I must be aware of any and all research in popular neuroscience. That is not my field of specialty nor something I take a professional or personal interest in. However, I commend you on your ability to google. Well done.
My initial reply was simply to point out the flaw in your “there is no photographic evidence” reasoning. No need to veer wildly off topic. And I stand firm on MY point – it’s a hell of a big assumption to make that “it should be easy to record them using the multitude of recording devices available nowadays”.
You may also want to rethink your statement that “science seems to back this”. Terribly presumptuous based on a handful of studies on what is arguably the most complex and little understood organ in the human body.
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OK then…point me to some studies that explain a physical basis to ghosts…
I’m seriously interested…I can’t believe someone somewhere hasn’t already looked into this if ghost are actually the manifestation of someone dead, or a physical “recording” of an event that occurred in the past…
Explain to me, as a physicist, how ghosts could be real.
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Let’s all remember to keep it respectful. Thanks!
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Paranormalers have a handy little loophole statement along the lines of “of course the spirits wont appear to you, you’re a non-believer”.
And I think the “we don’t know’s” are coming from pseudo-science, not science. Science would say “there is no evidence to support…” and as inconclusive as that may sound at face value it’s pretty robust considering the thousands of studies that have taken place. “There is no evidence to support…” for a reason.
I would be interested to know more about what you mean by better ways to analyse the data. Statistically do you mean?
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You continue to make so much sense JJ.
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Oh JJ, don’t rain on my “first time published on MM” parade!
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I (personally) believe ‘the spirit world’ is so much bigger than science and that we can ever understand. Science couldn’t prove alot of things a hundred years ago, it is always getting better so who knows what they’ll be able to prove in another hundred.
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You need to do more research then…there have been many scientific studies into ghosts…
For example, some studies indicate that some people who experience ghostly events are in fact experiencing perfectly normal neurological induced hallucinations…probably from magnetic fields…the experience feels real because it is real…neurologically real, but not physically real.
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If lack of evidence stopped people believing in things then religion would have ended looooong ago! You’d think with all this technology we’d have found proof of some sort of god by now
Believing in one un-science-y thing doesn’t mean you should believe in ALL un-science-y things, and I say this from a totally atheist viewpoint. Science hasn’t answered everything yet, like the “bloop” for example, but that doesn’t mean it won’t in the future.
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Hey MM, didn’t we have this topic recently?
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Umm, I can’t even recall one since I started working here a year ago. Maybe you just thought you saw it … like a ghost?
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Haha! I could be mistaken, but I was sure there was one recently!
Anyway, it’s a no to the believing in ghosts thing. Nor psychics or anything ‘paranormal’.
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That made me snort. :p
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Yes! I remember it…Here is the link
http://www.mamamia.com.au/entertainment/ghosts-are-you-a-believer/
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I’m pretty sure we did.. with the babies and children in the hospital who often saw ghosts? Or it might have been a comment on a related topic?
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