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Female Viagra. Would you go there?

Let’s call this: the little miracle that could solve the universal problem of “Not tonight honey, I’m tried”.

This weekend the papers were buzzing with the news of female Viagra; a nasal spray that’s said to “change EVERY woman’s life.” (That’s right, just like low fat cereal, those magic floor sweeping swiveling part-broom, part-mop things and a fancy-pants pram/stroller combination. Female Viagra will Change. Every. Single One. Of. Your. Lives.)

Every woman’s life? That’s a big call. But we recognise that unlike most of the products on the market that are targeted at women – this one could actually make a fair difference to a significant part of many women’s lives.

So, okay. You’ve got our attention. Tell us more.

Supposedly the nasal spray (there is nothing sexier than nasal spray) contains testosterone and will be effective for two to eight hours after it’s taken. It will only be available by prescription but that’s probably more time effective than the current alternative to low libido – which is therapy.

News limited reports:

Experts said the treatment could help nearly one in three women around the world who did not get full satisfaction and fundamentally transform relationships.Prof Susan Davis, director of the Women’s Health Research Program at Monash University, said the treatment would act like “Viagra for women” and was a “world-first breakthrough”.

“Rather than a long-term, therapy-based approach, this drug can be taken just when a woman anticipates sexual activity,” Prof Davis said.

“This could be a breakthrough study for women who currently are frustrated by the lack of any treatment options.”

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Need? Or manufactured want?

Now, there are a myriad of reasons why a woman might not want to have sex. They’re not attracted to their partner. They’re in bad relationships. They’re on the pill. They’re on anti-depressants. They’re stressed. Or maybe they’re just tired.

But the question is: do these women have a medical disorder that requires treatment or is this just one giant money-making-sell-you-what-you-don’t-need-pharmecutical-company-ploy? (We’ve seen Love and Other Drugs. We know how it goes.)

But it all seriousness… When it comes to men and issues of sexual dysfunction, the evidence is much more, er, obvious.

They’re up for it. Or they’re not. But with women the issue is less black and white.

Or up and down (Badoom-ching!)

So do women need a magic pill? And what about a pill for “men don’t know how to please their partners?” as suggested by the New York Times:

In a Viagra-flooded culture, where men have access to little blue pills to quell performance anxiety, isn’t it only fair that women should have a sex-enhancement drug of their own? Or, is a woman’s desire so much more complicated and contextual than a man’s that it cannot be localized to a single anatomical deficiency suitable to pharmaceutical remedy?

And, by the way, some women’s health advocates ask, why are we seeking to “fix” women when a lack of desire is often a side effect of another malady: the “men don’t know how to please their partners” disease? (There’s no pill for that.)

Women naturally experience fluctuating levels of desire over the course of their lives. Lessened libido can be prompted by issues like depression, abuse, bad relationships or stress. In a subset of women, doctors say, sexual disinterest can cause significant personal distress, clinically classified as “hypoactive sexual desire disorder.” The question is whether its antidote is therapy, patience, relationship changes, pharmacology or a combination thereof.

Australian journalist Ray Moynihan says no. He argues drug companies are manufacturing the idea of female sexual dysfunction to sell a drug. And while he doesn’t deny that some women do have a medical dysfunction, the number of women being targeted by the creators and researchers of female Viagra, is – he claims – on the ridiculous side of completely absurd.

American males spend billions of dollars on blue viagra every year, so if there’s a market for a drug that could transform the sex lives of “tired” women around the world, they’re going to want in. In this article from The Examiner, Moynihan argues drug companies are convincing women they need a drug for their low sex drive:

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So far, attempts to find a drug to enhance female sexual desire have failed. A recent study from University of Texas at Austin revealed that treatment with a placebo had a positive impact on one in three women– possibly from improved communication between partners. Just the notion of being treated for decreased desire for sex seemed to help women in the study.

Moynihan,author of ‘Sex, Lies and Pharmaceuticals’ feels, “Drug marketing is merging with medical science in a fascinating and frightening way, raising questions about whether a new approach to defining diseases is warranted.”

Pifzer, as an example, sponsored a study suggesting 63 percent of women have sexual dysfunction, mandating the need for behavioral therapy along with a drug akin to Viagra. The failed drug flibanserin was accompanied by pre-marketing educational activities focused on hypoactive sexual desire.

Moynihan says, “And with more experimental drugs in the pipeline, “the drug industry shows no signs of abandoning plans to meet the unmet need it has helped to manufacturer.” He concludes, “Perhaps it is time to develop new panels to take responsibility for defining treatable illness, made up of people without financial ties to those with vested interests in the outcomes of their deliberations and much more broadly representative of the wider public … and start the slow process of untangling the marketing from the medical science.”

So real problem for women? Or manufactured problem? And if female Viagra existed, would you take it?

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  1. guest

    NO of course not. To all the (dummy) men out there who think this is a solution (surely women are not that gullible) grow up emotionally. If she is not interested, find out why. No amount of devices or pills will fix what actually stems from a deeper need i.e.. to connect emotionally, be understood, be accepted unconditionally, forgive and be forgiven, to be loved for who you are. And if you can’t find the time to sort this out when there is an effective 10 day national holiday, well there is not much hope for the rest of the year. No amount of bargain shopping at the Boxing Day sales is going to fill the need for real human companionship that is the true bond of marriage.

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  2. dkmum

    While I agree with many if the posts below I’m actually intrigued.
    We have a bit of a ‘Hen and the egg’ issue at our house. I require affection to give sex and he requires sex to give affection. While I’m committed to doing what I can to improve the situation a little nasal spray might just help me along.

    After having read comments below I’m keen to get off my pill though and see what that will do for me.
    What contraception do you women use now?

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  3. Joss

    I recently read a story “Aussie porn addicts watch 5 hours of porn a day”. Now, I don’t know about anyone else. But to me, that seems like A LOT.

    There is so much pressure put on women who don’t want to have sex as much as men do. Those women are not “normal”.

    How is watching 5 hours of porn a day “normal”?

    Perhaps if society stopped using women as sex objects as much as they do, didn’t airbrush us as much as they do, we might just feel sexy enough to want to have SEX!

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  4. Annon for this one

    I know that this topic can create a few laughs, but for some people this drug could be really beneficial. I have been an anti – depressants for 18 years, and during the times when I was drug free, sex was fantastic. However, for me, at the moment the anti – depressants and regular exercise are needed to keep me healthy. I have a very understanding husband and I enjoy sex – but gee it would be great to have a orgasm again!!

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  5. StopMarketingMySexuality

    Hey, here’s an idea. Rather than painting us all (men included) with the acidic brush of “sexual dysfunction”, let’s consider the fact that our own sex lives are incredibly complex, unique and PERSONAL. I, for example, as a result of expectations that have been inflated beyond the realm of possibility by porn, am often left feeling incredibly inadequate between the sheets because a) I don’t like anal, b) I am not shaved bare, c) I don’t have breasts the size of my head and d) I need a little foreplay! The result? I lose interest, instead of “swallowing” my pride and stepping into a sadistic role play in order to “please”. That is not sexual dysfunction, and I daresay I’m not alone. As for men, there is so much pressure to be able to perform anywhere, any time, with anyone – no wonder they can’t always stand up and be counted! Look at the causes before you start prescribing “miracles”.

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    • Ellen

      Absolutely. I was in a relationship where the sex was incredible until he discovered he preferred porn. Needless to say, I divorced the bastard.

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    • Carrie

      This makes me sad because I know so many other women feel the exact same.

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  6. Flowerchild

    How about just finding a guy with a larger appendage & better skills in the bedroom? Guaranteed satisfaction.

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    • Carrie

      I disagree with this.
      My partner is amazing in the bedroom; very thoughtful of my needs and wanting to fulfill my needs. But sometimes I just have NO sex drive.

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    • Anon

      Why does it have to be a man with a larger appendage?

      How would you feel if guys judged you on the size of your vagina?

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  7. Laura

    Wow. And I thought you guys supported women’s rights?
    What about the fact there are thousands of women out there who have libido problems that have nothing to do with the fact that they’re stressed from “juggling children and a career”?

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  8. Sally B

    Getting off the pill has been the best thing for my sex life. Truly. I never knew what I was missing. Also I go to the gym now and have rediscovered my own body (by myself). Perhaps all the $ and research would be better spent on improving the pill to not be such a libido-killer. I know there are alternatives to the pill. Still it was the best option for me but just annoying in regard to lowering libido.

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  9. Sally B

    I’d try it. I’m now in my dirty 30′s and no longer take the pill, go to the gym (this truly helps the libido, trust me) and have ‘rediscovered’ my body by myself IYKWIM. The BIG thing for me was getting off the pill. I never realised what I’ve been missing for so long. Perhaps the research and $ should go into making the pill less of a libido loser?

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  10. Ruby

    In various reports today, I have heard of low female libido as affecting 43% to 63 % of women and that the spray would presumably remedy this dysfunction (!!)….surely if this many women experience it that means it is normal for women to feel this way and not a problem requiring medical intervention. Good Heavens the last thing most of us need is another bloody thing we should be consuming to keep someone else happy.

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  11. Larah

    With a newborn in the home, sex is a precious commodity and something I really want to want more of, to feel that intimacy with my husband… but my sex drive is low to non-existent. I would definitely be up for a little help in this department!!

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  12. Anonymous

    I couldn’t care less if I never have sex again. I honestly do not think about it, do not desire it, and certainly do not enjoy it. It bothers me and it bothers my partner, obviously.
    I would take this in a heartbeat. I would do just about anything to regain some of the intimacy and passion I have lost from my relationship.
    PS. the problem is not my partner; I have no interest in having sex with anybody!! I’m a freak :/

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    • Anon for this

      You’re not a freak – I feel exactly the same way. I really WANT to want to have sex with my husband, but I just don’t. Just too tired, too stressed, too busy. Most of my friends are the same.

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  13. Marty

    Viagra is used for erectile dysfunction. Ie those who can’t get a good enough erection to have the sex they already desire. ( presumably their partner wants the sex too). So lack of desire is a completely different thing and much less amenable to a pill or spray. Unless of course the reduced desire is because the woman finds the sex unsatisfying and feels like she is just looking after another persons needs before her own. Antidepressants reduce the ability to orgasm. Fix that and you might be on a winner but testosterone for desire? Be careful what you wish for. The desire might not be for the person you expect.

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  14. Katyberry

    I love that you guys sell a range of vibrators on Mamamia shopping! And thumbs up to the Lelo Gigi, by the way!

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  15. SImone

    Nah, don’t need a pill to desire more sex. Want a more equitable doling out of household chores, and THAT would make me more wanton.

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    • Lou16

      Did see this written somewhere greatest sex aid going around is a man with a vaccum cleaner!

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  16. Mum of 2

    I have 2 kids under 20 months.
    SLEEP is far more important at this stage of my life!!!

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  17. neola

    Interesting gallery. I wonder how Mia feels about there being a vibrator with her name for sale on Mamamia Shopping?

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  18. Anon

    Testosterone up my nose? Will I start scratching my crotch and farting on the sofa?

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    • Faybian

      Dunno, but you may have an unreasonable desire to hog the remote, so that you can flick channels at regular intervals.

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  19. Amandarose

    I could live happily without sex for ever. I do enjoy it sometimes but it is not a “need” like it seems to be with men. I do not think this is a disease. imhave no despite to inhale testosterone to ” fix” myself.
    what about side effects? Aggression? Chin hair? Just curious.

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  20. Amy

    Libido is a highly individualistic thing. Not wanting to have sex or only wanting to have it occasionally does not equal ‘sexual dysfunction’ and it is appallingly patronising and insulting to suggest so. Women go through stages in their lives where their libido may lower for a myriad of reasons, as covered by this article and other posters. Just because you’re not up for it whenever your husband/partner/some guy wants it doesn’t mean you have a disorder.

    Moreover, women are biologically programmed to be more selective when it comes to sex because of reproductive implications – and it’s interesting that the ‘treatment’ for this ‘sexual dysfunction’ is supplementation with the male hormone testosterone.

    Once again, the way men feel and behave is the ‘correct’ way and the inclinations and behaviour of women is deemed ‘dysfunctional’ if it doesn’t conform to male likes and dislikes.

    If women want to boost their sex drive and it is medically safe to do so (although hormone manipulation seems quite an extreme fix) then good for them, but the idea that this is something that we should all use when we’re not in the mood because we need to treat our ‘dysfunction’ is just revolting and a complete load of rubbish.

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    • Emmy

      My thoughts precisely!!

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      • vanessayoung

        Such smart and sensible comments, Amy. Every difference from the norm or from other people’s expectations of what is normal is now a disorder. I think it would be nice if there was help for woman who were distressed by their lack of libido, but the desire for this help must be led by these women, not be the result of them feeling that they are not conforming to standards set by society or by anyone else.

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  21. The Wizz

    I’m in for anything that overrides the lack of interest caused by the pill.

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  22. Anonymous

    Pfizer trialled Viagra on female volunteers several years ago here in Sydney. It failed and Pfizer was furious as they were hoping to make a few billion dollars more. It failed as most sexual issues for women are psychological (not feeling sexy and too much else on their minds). It seems like another company is now trying to cash in by creating a condition and selling the drug to fix it.

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    • Anon

      What drug was it? Viagara? or something else?

      There are better drugs for erectile dysfunction than Viagara now, but I can’t see how a drug that promotes arterial blood flow will affect a woman’s libido, or that a drug company like Pfizer would bother with such a study.

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  23. Anonymous

    Pfizer trialled Viagra on female volunteers several years ago here in Sydney. It failed and Pfizer was furious as they were hoping to make a few billion dollars more. It failedto as many problems for women are psychological. It seems like another company is now trying to cash in by creating a condition and selling the drug to fix it.

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  24. Anon

    Nothing kick starts your libido like a new partner.

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  25. kristie

    I would give it a go out of cuiosity. But, clean the house, bath the kids, turn the tv off & i’m yours no “treatment” required.

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    • Lucy

      I’m with you on that.

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  26. ads

    I don’t need a drug, I just need a nap and a foot rub!

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  27. Anon

    Do women need it?

    My bloody oath they do!

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    • Amy

      Male, I’m guessing? Give being a responsive partner and lover a go instead of pinning your hopes of a drug that changes your partner’s hormone balance.

      That being said, I think it’d be quite a funny turnaround if a few women in dead end relationships got a boost of testosterone and found themselves off and onto the next hot thing – leaving the insensitive sex-nags behind!

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      • Anon

        Yeah I’m male, and the comment was tongue in cheek, don’t take it seriously.

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  28. Renae

    Good thing it’s not a pill… or I’d be imagining men trying to slip it into their uninterested (stressed, depressed, tired etc) partner’s food…

    Come on, you know men who would do that.
    Bit harder to surreptitiously administer a nasal spray.
    And before anyone says something about it only being available by prescription – so’s Viagra, officially, but there are a LOT of black market sources for that one, I should imagine this one would be no different.

    I’d always heard that Viagra was only useful for guys that WANT to have sex, but couldn’t “get it up” (i.e. sexual dysfunction)… like you say, I think the problem is a lot more complicated in women.
    And would it be worth the side effects you would definitely experience from regularly ingesting enough testosterone to change your libido??

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    • choc chip cookie

      What about the ladies who WANT to have sex, but can’t get wet? Many factors cause dryness.

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      • anon

        lube is cheap and quite effective :)

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        • choc chip cookie

          Cheap lube gives my partner and I a rash.

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          • Caitlin Grace

            Coconut oil is a great natural lubricant and cost effective. Make sure to get virgin cocnut oil.

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      • Shaz

        It’s called Gel. You can get it from your local supermarket. No script necessary.

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      • Anonymous

        Your gynie (and prob doc) can give you a prescription for a hormone cream).

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      • Caitlin Grace

        Coconut oil is a great lubricant and a little goes a loooong way. Plus its anti viral, anti fungal and anti bacterial.

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    • Nicki

      I wouldn’t be surprised if some women are coerced into trying the nasal spray….

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  29. anonymous

    Just another example of how our society insists women’s biology transform to fit in with men’s biological needs. We have to have sex as often as THEY want it etc. For those women who do want and miss sex, this will be a good thing but for those of us happy with our ‘sometimes’ libidos, who want our bed to be a haven not a place where we constantly get ‘hit-on’, this is just another form of psychological torture. I thought we’d moved on from the 1950′s and 60′s, when we called women ‘cold fish’ for saying no to their husbands? Why can’t they come up with a pill for the man to take now and then, so he doesn’t feel like sex? Then we’re on an equal playing field…!.

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    • Anon

      It’s not about that. There’s nothing wrong with boosting anyone’s libido.

      i have to say, it’s pretty demoralising to be the male half of a marriage and have to live ;like a monk.

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      • anonymous

        It’s equally demoralising to be the female part of the marriage and live like a prostitute!

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        • Anon

          Except that nearly every married guy is expected to live like a monk at some stage.

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          • anonymous

            As every married woman has to spread her legs when she doesn’t feel like it, OFTEN.

            Please don’t accuse us women of ‘playing the victim’ as you say when it’s you men who boo hoo because you can’t have sex as often as you want. Women are by far the least complaining gender…we have had to change dramatically over the last 40 years and put up with so much crap thrown at us by a man’s world. What are you men doing to learn about and change to accommodate us, the way we have had to transform ourselves to fit into your world??

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        • Guest

          I would hazard a guess and suggest that the guys who are living like monks are not the ones harassing their partners daily.

          And you know what, in a healthy relationship there is a bit of give and take.

          I’d be astounded if both sides didn’t need to make the effort to talk the other into it occasionally.

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        • anon

          Do you really have to demonize men, and play the victim on every subject? It’s getting tiring.

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  30. Catherine M

    Forget drugs, just vacuum the floor and bring me a cuppa.

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  31. anon

    I want one of those vibrators!

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  32. Anonymous

    I’m on the pill and anti depressants. Absolutely no fun there. I would try it.

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