By KATE HUNTER
I’ve always thought it odd that baby clothes often feature pockets.
What on earth are they for? Most of them don’t have iPhones until they’re at least seven or eight years old, and they have no need for money as they have, you know, parents.
I was joking about the iPhone bit, sort of, but the money part is serious. Most kids look at their parents as kind of walking ATMs. Not that the kids have no money – they do, some have hundreds of dollars accumulated from birthdays and Christmases; nice little stockpiles that will, very soon be serious enough to buy an X Box or an iPhone 5. Kids know exactly what the latest technology costs, and whether it’s cheaper at Big W or JB HiFi; but ask them how much a loaf of bread costs and you’ll often be met with a blank stare.
As a 7 year old I knew exactly how many lollies 20c bought. Thanks to mum trusting me with running errands from a young age, I was not only familiar with the price of a pint of milk but also Benson and Hedges Extra Mild. It was the seventies, after all.
Something has happened in the last thirty years. Kids seem to have more money, but less nous about it. Credit cards are as familiar as cash and 5 year olds playing shops can be heard to say ‘Do you PIN or sign?’ What to do?
My school friend Lou is the richest source of parenting wisdom I know. Lou has 4 sons aged between 10 and 18 and she’s also a high school teacher. There’s not much she hasn’t seen or dealt with. Some kids, she says, are good with money, they get its power and its pitfalls. Lou says money is like anything – some kids have a gift for music, but without teaching and practise it’s never going to be that great. A little guidance is needed – and practice. Kids need to have money in their pocket, and they should be encouraged to spend it – at least some of it, on day-to-day living, not hoarded for the day when Mortal Combat 35 is released.
This is how – following Lou’s advice – it works in our family, at least in theory: Our kids are 6, 9 and 11. They receive weekly pocket money – $1 for each year of their lives. So the littlest gets $6 and the eldest gets $11 (less deductions for lost water bottles and school hats). I’m rubbish at maths but even I can manage that particular payroll.
Pocket money is payable on a Sunday afternoon after the ‘hour of power’ – a period when rooms must be tidied, the rumpus room bulldozed and laundry sorted. If you’ve seen the movie ‘Witness’ in which Harrison Ford and his Amish brethren erect a barn in a spirit of togetherness and community, imagine the exact opposite, and you’ll have some idea of what the Hunter ‘hour of power’ involves.
To some, it might seem that $6 a week is a lot for a six year old. Perhaps it is, but from it comes packets of chips at soccer on Saturdays, gold coin donations for free dress days at school, mothers day and fathers day stall gifts (Yay! Another fizzy bath bomb!) , Polly Pockets or whatever else is all the rage in Year 1.
Our kids know not to ask for a donut at the shops – or a dollar to throw into any given fountain. Money has a value. It’s amazing how quickly the desire for a rainbow Paddle Pop fades when she knows it will dig into money saved for a purple Zhu Zhu pet.
I’m not sure that’s teaching them how much a litre of milk costs, but it’s a start.
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We’ve done the pocket money for chores over the years with our kids, as well as gone through budgeting with the older ones. Personally I think tying pocket money to jobs helps create a work ethic in kids. I also think parents can be role models with money whether they mean to or not, kids do pick up on how you use your own money. Keeping a dialogue open with your kids, so that if they make financial mistakes (mobile phone plans anyone?), they can come to you for advice is also important as they grow.
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When my children were in school they would get a dollar for each year of their age.
My kids were both very academic and they also did music, so I felt that music and their schooling was their ‘job’ and as such I didn’t expect them to do any chores around the house. Their bedroom was their responsibility to clean but as I regarded it as their own personal space I wasn’t bothered if they didn’t clean it, I just shut the door.
When they got into high school I didn’t believe in them having a part time job as again I felt that their education was their job. They both did very academic subjects that required a lot of effort and work on their part.
By the time my kids reached University they qualified for youth allowance, so I stopped having to give them any money.
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Hi Catgirl, A few commenters have mentioned that they see their kids’ education as their ‘job’. Not sure I agree, but it’s a really interesting proposition. I wonder if there’s a post in it?
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I don’t agree either. I think you, as a parent also go to work. You work hard during the day, and that is your job. Just as a kid going to school and working hard could be perceived as being a “job”. But that does not mean that household chores suddenly disappear because they’re working hard during the day.
Does that make sense? Family responsibilities are a diffrent kind of work and I don’t htink that because they go to school or have a part time job should exclude them from that.
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I guess a lot of it depends on the type of kids you have (academically) and also your own family dynamic.
My kids left the house for school at 7:45am and returned at 3:45pm, (at 5pm if it was a school band day) which I agree is less hours work than an adult in the full time workforce. But by the same token they each did six TEE (university entrance subjects) subjects (it’s not called TEE anymore). They did physics, calculus, applic mathmatics, chemistry, English Lit and Indonesian. That was a big academic workload that resulted in a hyge amount of homework.
My daughter was also very musically inclined so she wasn’t sure if she would pursue music or science as a career. She plays two instruments, so twice a week after school she had an hour long music lesson and she also practised each instrument 45 minutes a day (even on her music lesson day)
All that didn’t leave much spare time. I was also aware of the “burning out” syndrome so what spare time my kids had I would rather they use to relax and read a book for pleasure. A side issue we didn’t turn a TV on during school term time so it’s not like they ever wasted time watching T.V.
If I had kids who weren’t so academically focused my attitude would have been decidedly different. If while I was running around doing all the housework they were playing computer games or wasting time surfing the Internet watching YouTubes or on Facebook I would have made them do household chores.
Kids who do easier subjects would have more free time that they can use to help around the household.
We are vegetarians and I thought that it was very important that my children learnt about food and how to cook, so during the school holidays they would take their turn at cooking the evening meal. I, my son, and my daughter would/do take turns in cooking for the night.
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I never had pocket money, mum and dad would just put $20 a month in a bank account for me and my sister up until we were 17. If I wanted anything awesome (discman and a tamagotchi were my first big wants – 90s kid much?) I’d have to save birthday money, tooth fairy money (silver coin per tooth, $1 for two front teeth) and jobs around the house (usually about 50c each). If there was nothing super expensive I wanted, birthday money would go into my bank account or my piggy bank which I always found pretty exciting.
As a result, I’m definitely a saver rather than a spender because it makes me think about the amount of work that goes into whatever it is I would buy. It means I’ve saved a hefty sum over the past few years which is all set to go towards a trip when I graduate.
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I never really got pocket money my Nonno used to give me money for good reports from school. For at least 10 years from the age of 12 I would clean the family ome from top to bottom, including two bathrooms, every Saturday morning before I went to ballet for the day. Then my sister took over, we always had to pitch in I started by ironing handkerchiefs. However when I started full time ballet I had to help out with the fees, best thing that ever happened to me I learned how to handle my money quick fast at the age of 15.
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I am one of 5 kids & we all have very different approaches to money & saving. I am the tightarse & have to have a certain amount of money in the bank to feel secure while my youngest sister is happy to spend it all because she can always earn it again with the other 3 falling inbetween.
My parents operate their own business & like many in the 80′s there were constant financial problems & visits from the bank manager with whispers of foreclosure (hence my money issues). The business did a lot better in the 90′s (my sisters early teen years) & there were no more financial pressures so I’m pretty sure this is where her relaxed approch comes from.
It is a great idea to teach kids about the reality of earning & spending but I hope I can give my kids a healthy connection to money without all the hangups.
I haven’t started with pocket money yet but I think it is a fantastic way to teach kids about money, saving and giving. I will be sure to do the 3 way split that has been mentioned in earlier comments.
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I’m not really a kid anymore, but my parents always taught me the value of saving. When I was eighteen or nineteen, I visited the Commonwealth bank and they offered me a free financial analysis. They were knocked off their feet by how much I had saved. At the time, I was working two jobs and studying, and I’ll never forget the guy saying to me, “Nobody else your age has this kind of money.”
And I’ve come to find it’s true. Most people my age treat their income like it’s entirely expendable and don’t save at all. They don’t understand the value or responsibility of money. I work as a teacher, and I see this starting very early with a lot of kids… scary, scary stuff.
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In my family, we didn’t get pocket money and we still had lists of chores to do! My two sisters and I would have to sit down and divvy up a list of 18 ish jobs to make each list fair (eg feed dog equal to feed cat etc) and then we would each do one list per week on a rotation.
I don’t really like the idea of linking chores to pocket money. Mum and dad don;t get paid to unpack the dishwasher so personally I don’t think the kids should either!
My mum’s thinking was, if you’re part of the family, you do part of the work!
I’ll be doing this with my kids too!
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I agree Taegalie – jobs come with being part of a family. I suppose our system is a bit contradictory. But I do think its important to get kids familiar with money, saving it and spending it. My sister tried to link money directly with jobs (i.e. unstack dishwasher – 50c; make bed – 20c etc) At the end of the week her 11 year old presented her with an INVOICE
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We feel we made the mistake of linking money to jobs, thinking it would teach the value of working. All it has done is meant when they a asked to something, i am met with “how much will i get?”. We are addressing this now and the above advise is timely.
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I pay the little mites 50c or $1 for chores that I don’t want to do, ie emptying the dishwasher, cleaning the family rooms, mopping, windows… but not for stuff they should be doing ie beds, tidy their own rooms, etc.
Only the oldest (7) has any nous about it.
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I never got any pocket money – ever. My siblings and i never helped out at home with chores, never cleaned our rooms etc… there was no incentive! All of you who have commented, are all, in your ways, teaching valuable lessons to your children, just by being proactive. Now as a 40 year old I pretty much live hand to mouth. My parents did not teach me about money and finances.
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The kids of today know so little about the value of money because their parents are generally so prepared to get them anything and everything that they squark for.
I see this every time I hit a shopping centre. It’s too easy to hand the fruit of the womb the object of their current desire than say “no” and listen to the tandrum.
From what I observe, many parents are raising very selfish children. Selfish children then grow into selfish adults. Oh ! The joys of contemplating the next generation !
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Cue the quote from Socrates or whoever about the “youth of today”…
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I actually just did a maths assignment and the real world application I used was Personal Finance. There are some great resources around that I found for that assignment.
http://www.makingcents.com.au is a good one, and there is a Disney game as well called “The Great Piggy Bank Adventure” designed for primary school kids.
I’m not fantastic with money, it burns a hole in my pocket, and I’m too impatient saving, but I think giving kids money (like pocket money) is a good way to get them used to dealing with it.
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My kids are 15 and 13 and they get $7 a week, but they have to do their chores, if not $1 a day gets deducted. (Disclaimer: this wasn’t my idea – I read it somewhere and like the ‘deduction’ idea.) They rarely get $7. If I have to ASK them to feed the dog, $1 gets deducted, if I have to collect their laundry from their rooms, $1 gets deducted and so on. My son has just started a paper round and my daughter umpires netball so they also get extra money. We pay for free dress day or a donut at the shops, they pay for X-box games or extra money to take to friends houses. They are conscious of the ‘deduction’ scheme and usually bring their washing down or take school bags to their rooms. It’s a good motivator.
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Firstly, it’s “nous”.
Secondly while I have no intention of having kids, I have read a lot of sensible advice from the Barefoot Investor on teaching kids the value of money.
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Aaagh. Checked and changed this a couple of times. Trying to find the definitive spelling.
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now that I work part time having been a SAHM for many years, i have started to think ‘how may hours did I have to work to pay for this?’ I would like for my children to think the same way.
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My preppie girl gets $3 a week. $1 goes into her ‘giving’ box, the rest she can spend on whatever she wants. So far so good!
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I’ve taught my kids that you have to work to earn money. As soon as my kids are old enough to work, which is 14 and 9 months in Queensland, they get part time jobs while finishing high school. I also open Saving Maximiser accounts, which direct debits a portion of their pay each week. Having done that, both my older boys have been able to buy their first cars and register them. My younger son does the recycling and cleans up after himself. He gets $10 a week ,of which $5 is banked in his Commonwealth Dollarmites account on a Wednesday at school.
I believe, When you have to spend your own money, that you have worked to earn, it makes you think about and appreciate what you buy a lot more.
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Our 2 get $20 a week. $10 goes straight into their accounts (Not to be withdrawn) $5 goes into a money box (medium term savings plans) and $5 is for them to choose what they want to spend on.
The 11 year old puts most of her money into her long term savings account, occasionally she wil ask me to withdraw some of the extra for a large purchase (she paid for her own Ipad)
Master nearly 8 is saving everything he can to replace the ipod he lost.
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Holy Moly! $20!
wow thats heaps!
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No it’s not. I used to get $5 a week over 30 years ago! And my parents were stingy as well as generally skint. Back then ciggies were under $2 a packet so work that out – I could buy a packet a week and still have more than half of my cash to spend! You can bet salaries and general living costs have gone up at least by a factor of four since then. And if half of that goes into savings, like for Mickie above, well… I reckon kids today have gone backwards!!!!! Poor buggers, let’s not let on!
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I got $2 pocket money a fortnight until I was about 14. And if my room wasn’t clean or I hadn’t washed the breakfast dishes I didn’t get that. When I visited my grandparents they’d give my sister and I $5 or $10, it was like I winning lotto.
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We follow a pocket money method I learned from a financial counsellor on Oprah… Beginning when they learn to count to three, give them a dollar amount divisible by three. Then give them a money box in which to save a third, a purse/wallet in which to put their ‘spending’ third, and provide a mechanism for them to give away a third (such as saving to buy a goat for a Nepalese farmer). This way they learn both the cost of snack foods and the cost of toys. And it’s really hard to learn to give money away once you’re an adult, so practicing with a third of your income when you’re a kid works well.
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My Dad was a bank manager, and I am one of three. All three of us have different attitudes to money. I am probably the scrooge of the three of us – well, not a scrooge exactly. I just like to be very sure of something before I spend my hard earned on it. For example if I really really like a jacket I will spend way too long deliberating over it!
One of my siblings is fairly normal with their money. My other sibling is the complete opposite to me and used to think nothing of blowing whatever on well, whatever! Over the years my younger sibling has become much much better with money, now that mortgages etc are involved, and they are as good as anyone else with it! All three of us have eventually wound up in pretty good financial positions (through all sorts of financial drains over the years where at times there wasn’t much coming in for each of us as individuals).
We all came from the same stable family with the same parents, with the same exact teachings about money. And we are all different! So there is a limit to what teaching actually does. I do, however, agree with the sentiment that education about money is very important! I think it is not a good thing that so many kids get given money (and big sums of it!) constantly, and aren’t given an opportunity to understand its real value.
My own kids are now 6 and 8. We have just started pocket money recently. The youngest gets $2.50 and the older one gets $3. I think this is enough. I considered $5 but this just didn’t sit right with me (yes I know some kids get $5 from the tooth fairy! My youngest told me this the other day because she wanted to know why the tooth fairy only gives $1 at our house!) – it just seemed too much for kids this age. The reason why we have only just started this recently is that I wanted my kids to have the concept of contributing because they were part of the household, not just for $$. They are old enough now that they are starting to ask for things, and as previously they would just get a small amount around their birthday (about $20 total from relatives etc), and just the odd $ from the tooth fairy, I thought I needed to start giving them some money so they could learn to manage it! At the school disco recently I paid the entry, but they had to take any money for snacks, drinks etc that they might want there. They understand that these sorts of things are now their responsibility (this doesn’t include lunch orders etc though).
I LOVE the ‘Power Hour’ idea – I may have to borrow that one!!
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C’mon tooth fairy! How many teeth are there to lose? Not many. I had 4 children and my children weren’t given much money but my youngest is 19 and used to get $2 a tooth way back when!
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I agree with the header 100%
I have posted this before – opening a bank account for your child and depositing their pocket money regularly really does teach them about saving.
The other thing I have noticed, is that not as many teenagers these days seem to have part-time jobs. Parents have more cash these days and seem happier just to hand it over rather than making teenagers work for it.
I got a part-time job at 15 and had that job right through high school.
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My parents always told my brother and I that while we were at school, studying and practicing (i ended up doing a music degree) was our job. We were allowed to work in the holidays and do babysitting and stuff, but mainly we were expected to study and get good marks, which is what we did. I don’t know of we’ll do the same with my little family, I guess it will depend on where their gifts lie.
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For me having a job at high school was fantastic, it really gave me confidence and taught me to manage my time. Plus I got to meet heaps of people I wouldn’t have otherwise.
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My kids get $10 a week each. They’re allowed to spend $5 and the other $5 has to go into their bank accounts. They’re much more excited about the spending money, but I’m hopeful that one day they’ll be excited about what’s in the bank too.
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ha remember the days when 20c bought more than one lolly lol
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My friend and I used to have street stalls where we’d sell whatever we’d created in the kitchen. We would ask people to give us whatever they thought was appropriate. I remember one day a woman gave us $2 (this was the late 80s) and was thought we were the richest people ever. Interestingly, I spent my dollar and she saved hers. And now she owns a house and I don’t!
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Oh my God! Pockets on babies clothes. I never thought of this! Thanks for the laugh Kate.
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Great article Kate. I love your writing.
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Great post Kate!
My kids are only 1 and 2 so I’m not at the pocket money stage yet…. I don’t think…..!!
I like the idea of $1 per year of age, makes it fair and also it’s something they can’t really argue with!
I also think the most effective way to teach kids the value of money is for them to get a job! When they are legal obviously! I got my first job, in a news agency, aged 14 and 9 months (or whatever the legal age back then was) and it was crappy… but it totally made me appreciate every single cent!
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My kids are on the same pocket money formula as Kate’s. Still haven’t worked out when that stops though.
Their pocket money gets transferred directly to their bank accounts, which they have had since they were 5, and they both have eftpos cards.
If they decide they can’t live without something but have forgotten their wallets, the money gets transferred from their account back to mine (via my phone) before we even leave the shop.
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When I was growing up the pocket money rate in my family was 10c per year of age. I worked out (I’m quite bright) that I would be 20 before I received $2. Dad rightly pointed out that by the time I needed $1.50 or more, I’d be old enough for a job.
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