by RICHARD GLOVER
A young female friend tells me it’s hard to get to know the boys at high school parties because “they just talk about themselves”. Naturally, I was shocked. Clearly the old men of the tribe have failed to pass on the ancient secrets of meeting the opposite sex.
Rule one is always ask about her. This goes back many millenniums when the first caveman stumbled on the first cavewoman and sympathetically inquired about her efforts to achieve a work-life balance. She had a wildebeest that needed gutting, he had the evening free and that’s how the human race began.
It’s been the same ever since. Properly informed teenage boys, in service of their biological destiny, have politely inquired about matters in which they have no possible interest, including, in extreme cases:
1. Lovely dress! Is it from that new shop Zara?
2. I love Justin Bieber, too! When did you first discover him?
3. Tell me more about veganism. It sounds like it could be right for me.
I admit it’s tough to find something to talk about. When I was 16, a friend used to take an interesting-shaped bolt to teenage parties. When he found himself in front of a girl, he’d be red-faced and tongue-tied but, in an effort of self-mastery, would pull the bolt from his pocket and display it on his outstretched yet shaking hands. She’d say: “What’s that?” He’d say: “It’s a bolt,” and the conversation would be off and running.
Crucially, there’d always be a point in which he’d turn the conversation back to the girl, as in the inquiry: “So do you have a collection of bolts, too?”
This sort of smooth, debonair style is clearly missing in this generation of young men. Luckily, this column is in a position to help them achieve the seductive mastery of my own generation.
What’s crucial is to express interest in whatever is being said, however much of a stretch. For example:
4. It’s just so great to meet someone as concerned as I am about tropical deforestation.
5. Actually, I’m a feminist myself.
6. So, which is your very favourite Kardashian?
Of course, it used to be easier for young people to meet. When I was growing up, we’d spend long evenings gathered around the piano wishing one of us could play. Into the deathly silence, we’d always try to stammer out a question:
7. I just adore Germaine Greer. My only criticism: she’s not tough enough on the men. What’s your view?
More importantly, we’d try to turn ourselves into the sort of young men who’d interest these particular young women.
Preparation was everything, with your teenage bedroom kitted out to give the false impression you were a sensitive intellectual. Copies of Rugby League Week were hidden away and replaced by a well-thumbed edition of Montaigne’s Essays. Neil Diamond’s Hot August Night was banished from its usual place on the turntable and replaced with an ECM jazz record from a minimalist Norwegian called, as I remember it, Terje Rypdal. And Greer’s The Female Eunuch, the world’s least likely erotic aid, was placed on the bedside table.
This was the late ’70s and we all shared an optimistic belief that we were intellectuals. Thus most girls of my acquaintance demanded a familiarity with the latest edition of The Guardian Weekly. Indeed, from the ages of 16 to 21, nearly all my romantic assignations occurred with the direct involvement of The Guardian Weekly, so much so that I still feel a small erotic charge from the mere mention of that distinctive and ancient masthead.
Whatever the preparation, your behaviour at the party is still important. On this score, don’t be too nervous. As a young man, it’s important to realise that, just as you have come to a party to meet girls, so the girls have come with the intention of meeting boys: just ones who are older, smarter and better-looking than you.
This is not the point to give up. This is the point at which you engage them in conversation, each question perfectly tailored to suit the person:
8. Baby dolphins? Really? What a surprise, because I love them, too.
9. What did you think of the Booker shortlist?
10. Thank god they’ve finally put vodka and orange in a goon sack.
Ask her name. Ask about her hobbies. Ask about her job. And then express interest:
11. Claudine … wow, are you French?
12. Tenpin bowling? Daggy? No way!
13. So, let me get this straight: your part-time job is to remove the guts from the chicken and then spray out the carcass with water? How fascinating. Perhaps you could tell me more over a drink?”
Remember, the future of the human species depends on you. In the past century alone, at least 7 billion conversations such as this must at some point have occurred. Surely, for the sake of humanity, you can manage one more.
If not, try going to the party with a bolt in your pocket.
What is the best conversation starter you’ve ever been hit with or used yourself?
This was originally published here and has been republished with full permission.
Richard Glover is the author of 12 books, most recently Why Men are Necessary and More News from Nowhere, a collection of his comic pieces for radio’s Thank God It’s Friday.








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57 Comments so far
I was once shopping in the ladies section of David Jones (sales!) and caught offguard by a man who asked me the directions to another department. I told him where I thought it was thinking he would leave but he somehow drew me into a conversation that branched into ‘do you live around here? where do you work?’ etc. I was trying to be polite all the while thinking it was cutting into my shopping time and trying to think of a way to leave. As things came to a head, he asked me whether I wanted to go for a cup of coffee. To which I think my pupils dilated in horror and I said ‘I can’t’ to which he didnt seem to leave so I said ‘I have a partner’ (I do!) then hurried away. I know it’s naive but I had no idea that was where the conversation was heading (in hindsight of course I know now). All I can say is in future I will be a bit wearier of being too open/friendly/making chit chat with strangers at the shops. Although I think if he was not so aggressive in his questioning I might have been able to make an earlier exit.
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A guy once asked me, ‘So, do you find with those high heels that they get stuck under the accelerator and you run over people and kill them?’ It was so random I laughed and so did my boyfriend.
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At one of the ten weddings we were part of slash attended, I was asked “are you Indian?”. Note: she was sitting on the next table, and I was facing the opposite direction waiting for my girlfriend to return from the toilet.
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I like the premise of this article – apparently men used to try and become the sort of men women would like. I’m 21, and can honestly say that a very large proportion of guys my age are total knuckleheads when it comes to this sort of thing. Even the guys who MUST be smart because they managed to get into law/medicine/engineering school or have some fantastic job seem only to want to talk about how wasted they got last weekend, or how they hooked up with some ‘skank’. If I wanted to talk about that stuff, I’d hang out with my little brother.
No wonder I date so many older men.
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I once had a guy walk up to me when I was waiting for a bus, take a deep breath and say, “I find you very attractive. Can I have your phone number?” I as so flustered and taken aback I immediately went into defense mode and stammered something about having a boyfriend.
After a few minutes had passed I was able to appreciate his chutzpah but it was a pretty confrontational way to go about it!
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for the life of me i cant remember any of the first conversations i had with any of my exes, or even my hubby! must have been great
funnily enough i can remember every first conversation with my closest friends. the strangest – desperate and despairing after being put into my yr 7 cooking class with nobody i knew, and with the scariest teacher whose nickname was the dragon lady, i turned to the girl beside me in a sort of scared hysteria and said “hi, im nigel”. she looked relieved and said “hi, im nigel too”. we then discussed our fear of both the teacher and the ovens in the cooking class. 15 years later, she is still one of my best friends.
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I knew a guy who used to leave his t-shirt tag sticking up so that girls would tuck it back in for him…. we went out for 2 years
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that is SO CUTE. i’m going to pass that pearl of wisdom on
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I’m going to start bringing bolts to parties!
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I was sitting waiting for a train and it was taking FOREVER to arrive. Once it finally did arrive, it broke down for quite a long time. I started chatting to the guy opposite me and an old lady and all of us were bitching about the public transport system. I was venting a bit about how bad our public transport system is compared to other cities. Anyway, the conversation stopped and the rest of the train ride went on. Just as I was about to get off, the guy i was venting to passed me a note. It said “hey cranky girl, you’re stunning.” I actually didn’t read it until I got off the train so I coudln’t see his face. He wasn’t really my type and I was actually on the way to my boyfriend’s house so not single either but it was still super flattering and it definitely made me smile.
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Slightly off-topic, but I use reverse pick-up lines. I used to use this when out with girlfriends for a bit of a laugh when dealing with particular persistent chaps.
Whichever one of us who was approached would tell the guy she was employed in some outlandish or improbable profession–like an aeronautical engineer working on the Russian Space Station. Or something equally ridiculous (but totally cool) like that.
However, this backfired on me one evening.
Dude: So what do you do?
Me: I’m an archaeologist specialising in Ancient Persia.
Dude: No way! I’m an archaeologist from Iran!
The odds! Needless to say, it got awkward after that. And not at HIS expense.
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This made me giggle!!
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LOVE it!
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The first thing my husband ever said to me was ” pint of bitters thanks babe ”
Now after all these years he still proudly tells our friends ” I married the hot bar maid “
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My wife’s first words to me were “You’re doing that all wrong”. I asked her advice, we started dating a week later and the pattern hasn’t stopped ever since.
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Awesome work, IdleDad! Clearly you’ve got some things right in the meantime
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When I met my now husband he made me laugh. If you can make a a woman laugh that’s a great start.
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“10. Thank god they’ve finally put vodka and orange in a goon sack.”
AMEN!
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I snorted my tea when I read that one!
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Richard Glover is the best!
Depressingly, I often find myself resorting to, “What do you do?” which does not at all reflect the kinds of topics I wish to discuss.
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I’d like to try “So, what did you do today ?”
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this would be received brilliantly!
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That’s a good one
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I like that one
Hey serious question, people – how do I get a guy at work to notice me/think of me in that way? Can’t really hit on him as that would be inappropriate. And potentially awkward. Especially if he is not interested.
Or is that my answer? ie: if he was interested in me then I’d know it??
We chat non work stuff & both single. There is a lot of smiling going on. Just don’t know how to get it to the next level…
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Ask him out directly at an outside work function (Christmas party?), if he’s not interested, respond with “Worth a shot” and flash a cheeky smile.
If he says yes, AWESOME! If not, you got away with class.
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Thanks Miss T! That is the plan so far. But it still involves me asking him out. Trying to avoid yet don’t want to miss my chance.
If only it were high school. I could get my friend to ask his friend…hehe
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Absolutely ask him out! It does need to be an outside the office function though. Try asking if he wants to get a Friday night drink. Good luck!
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I asked my now husband out!
It’s totally worth asking. If he does like you, he’ll be flattered you asked and you won’t waste time being apart when you should be together. If he isn’t into you, at least you know!
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Funny! Printing in case I have a boy at some stage…my own husband was certainly not this original. I’m sure his advice would be ‘learn guitar, fein disinterest.
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I forgot to add that the reason I’m interested in a new guy – probably the first since my ex and I broke up late last year is because he asks everyday how I am and what I’ve been up to.
Showing a genuine interest in each other (not just the woman) is important. It shows that you’re not just going to talk about yourself constantly which is quite selfish I must admit.
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Agreed Rose! I think GENUINE is the key word – pretty hard to keep up the faux interest for too long!
Good luck with the new guy x x
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I was chatting to a guy at a festival a few weeks ago… she was pretty harmless but I wasn’t attracted to him at all. Actually I thought he was gay – but anyway. He kept telling me about all his ex girlfriends and the problems they’d had. Great conversation starter! Not.
Then after about 1/2 hour of boring me with the fact his ex gf took all his money because she was a drug addict he said
Can I kiss you?
Um, no. Sorry.
Awkward!!
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*he not she
whoops!
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“8. Baby dolphins? Really? What a surprise, because I love them, too.”
Grilled, with lemon & garlic.
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Standing at the bar waiting to be served, a guy turns to me, sees the iPhone in my hand and after a quick pause says, “so… got any cool apps?” Me: “…. Uno?”
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Not bad – at least it’s a way to get your attention away from your iPhone! I’m constantly hooked up to mine and that’s probably why people don’t approach me. Either that or I’ve got my earphones in which clearly says “I don’t want to speak to anyone”
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you’d be surprised how many people still speak to me with my ear phones in! annoying!
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Yeah it happens to me on the train! Especially if I’m reading a book they usually go “do you like what you’re reading?” “what’s it about?”
Sometimes I don’t mind a chat but if I have my earphones in and I’m reading a book obviously I’m not in a chatty mood!!
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YES! Me too! Please leave me alone, I am listening to music.
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I thought you once said you were into women? Sorry I I have misread u
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I’m bi … a bit from column A, a bit from column B
all my long term relationships have been with women though.
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Him: My friend would like you to touch his penis
Me: laughter and a quick about turn in the other direction
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Eeeewwwww.
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That made me sad. I’ll never fall for a man because I’ll never fall for that shit!
Off to the nunnery for me!
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Take heart Nicole, there are some very lovely genuine ones too – and you’ll know one when you meet him!
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Don’t be sad, Nicole. Richard is trying to teach guys life skills, and he says it with humour. I don’t think he really means for them to be fake. In a similar way to how we get taught by our parents to share, say please and thank you….it doesn’t mean we’re fake when we do these things.
Young men (well, everyone really) sometimes need to be reminded that when they are feeling insecure and desperately trying to impress by building themselves up and bragging, they don’t need to try so hard, and would do much better to make the other person feel good. There’s nothing wrong with that. It’s just a good tip, and.people need guidance sometimes.
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IT Feedback: whatever the app thing that is running this morning on MM is crashing Safari on my iPad constantly, even if the app is installed (which you seem to have no choice over which I HATE!), so I am here on my phone. Can a tech person pls fix it, or something? Thanks!
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I had that too. Converted to a ‘on swipe’ screen with funny format, but then kept crashing before I could read anything. Seems to be fixed now though.
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AND Richard just this morning broke the Guinness World Record for the worlds longest interview by interviewing Peter Fitzsimmons (he of the red bandanna) for 24 hours.
I imagine that he’d be all out of talking, as it finished about 10:00am this morning.
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Ooooh Peter Fitzsimmons is Lisa Wilkinsons husband hey?
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i’ve had the “you’re not a lesbian are you?”
me: “um no…?”
him: “wanna make out?”
me: “not really, no”
i think alot of girls had told him they were lesbians….
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I honestly can’t think of one…I’m so boring I just introduce myself and hope the conversation will progress and not fall into an awkward silence…When my boyfriend and I met it was simply “Hi, I’m …” “I’m …” “So..come here often?” lol typical.
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“Who is your favourite Kardashian?”
…wait, there’s more than one??
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“I wish I had a pony…that would be so cool…”
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Oh JJ…… lol
10 points for originality
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So … how’s that one working out for you, JJ?
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I haven’t been single for 19 years, so have never tried it…
Any single blokes out there want to try it for me?
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