By TINA RODIA
While adults should be free to be in a relationship with whomever they choose, including younger or older partners, I dare to argue that teenage girls should never date older men. However, the hardest people to convince would be the girls themselves.
I was one of those girls. But I was also most unlike what we assume that girl to be. I wasn’t troubled, promiscuous, or from an unhappy home. At 16 years old, the allure of a 24-year-old man felt exciting but also responsible.
We entered into a proper relationship, with resigned and hesitant consent from my parents, and having an older boyfriend felt truly adult. In painful hindsight, this relationship led me 2,000 miles from home, and into depression and alienation from friends and family. All of this to cater to an emotionally immature, headstrong, confused young man.
I was a good kid who made poor choices—at the time they were exciting and forward-thinking choices. In Lynn Phillips’ 1999 Planned Parenthood study Recasting Consent: Agency and Victimization in Adult-Teen Relationships, she highlights the admissions by women in their 30s who came to regret the choices they made as teens. Women who once defended their choices as responsible and as a mark of their own superior maturity cited regret, depression, and a sense of manipulation that was not clear to them at the time.
That is at the centre of what is wrong with these relationships. An older man, while comfortable in possible emotional proximity of their ages, is the most motivating factor of the relationship by simply being older. Despite her own understanding of her emotional maturity, a young woman will always be aware that she is with an older man, and that allows her the benefit of a sense of maturity, but one that exists only in the context of her relationship. It can be argued that men don’t know the effect they have on being with a younger woman. In my case, my boyfriend certainly had no idea about me, who I was, and how much he molded my personality.
For women like me, the relationship was the factor that defined a superior sense of maturity. “I’m with an older man, that makes me so much more mature than my peers.” Being with an older man was my only stake in self-esteem, which plummeted as I grew up. Little did I know that my relationship was the reason it plummeted.
When I moved away from home with my boyfriend, I went to college, fell into a deep depression, made no friends, and was homesick for my family. While I did well in school—pursuing a women’s studies degree—I was completely unaware that, even while steeped in feminist theory, the choices I made were his alone. I was without friends and family in a place I had no connection to, and existed just to be a companion to a lost and unhappy man.
By the time I was 22, I had only known being the girlfriend to an older man, and moved another 1,000 miles to be with another older man, 13 years my senior. It took years before I came to shed that role and undo that relationship. I wonder who I would have been had I not started with an older man at 16?
That is a huge chunk of a life to wish away. I made my headstrong decision at 16, and my cloudy, needy decision at 22, to be with those men, and the sense of regret is often overwhelming. I don’t blame my parents for letting me have an older boyfriend and for letting me leave home with him. Because they were progressive parents, and I was a good kid, they made the painful decision to let me do what my boyfriend wanted me to do. At the time I would have been furious had they tried to stop me. Perhaps they knew I would have left anyway.
What they couldn’t have known was that for as mature and adventurous as I thought I was, no amount of growth or maturity can escape the eclipsing influence of an older man. Girls who grow up in this kind of relationship may never know who they might have been had they been left alone, or with a peer. The missed potential of all that I could have been weighs heavily against the only thing that I was: The girlfriend of an older man.
As I consider becoming a parent now, I know that I will not be a permissive parent. I will be the kind of parent that I would have rebelled against. This may be the one thing we should not let teenage girls learn the hard way.
Check out this gallery of older male celebs who have dated younger women.

Scarlett Johansson, 28 and Sean Penn, 52
This article was originally published on Role/Reboot here and has been republished with full permission.
Tina Rodia is a freelance writer and small business owner in San Francisco. She grew up in Connecticut, and has a B.A. in creative writing and women’s studies.
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As a teen I constantly had older men (10+ years on me) hitting on me. I thought it was vile. Saying no still didn’t stop me dating someone horrible my own age. I think teens just make bad choices.
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I feel sorry for you. You put down everyone who is in a relationship with an age gap becuase you had a bad experience. My partner is 40 and I am 24. We’ve been together since I was 19. 5 Years on we are very happily married and have 2 beautiful children. He is a supporting and loving man. We are a team and we work together though everything. Age is not an obsticle. Shame on your for trying to ruin something that can be beautiful simply because you had a douche bag. I hope you find the man your looking for soon.
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I’m sorry but your bad relationship and subsequent issues that stemmed from it have nothing to do with being in a relationship with an older man, and everything to do with being in a relationship with the WRONG man.
I apologise if someone below has already pointed this out (I haven’t read the comments), but how can you attribute your lack of self esteem, depression etc on the fact that he was older? What makes that something to regret?
I married a man nearly 13 years my senior. We met when I was 18 and he was 30 and have been married for 13 years, together for nearly 19. The fact that we work so well and are more in love now than ever is not because he is older or because I am younger, but because we work hard at our marriage, because we are a compatible couple, and because we are still desperately in love.
Yes, I have been shaped by the person he is much more so than he has been shaped by me, purely because I was still maturing during our early relationship, but this is not a bad thing. In fact, I see many of my best traits; my confidence, my ability to talk to strangers easily and my positive outlook on life as directly attributable to him.
He has not eclipsed me, he has shaped my maturity into something I am proud of. Not because he is older, but because he is a wonderful, caring, happy person.
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I too dated a gem like yours. Then when I was 19 I met a guy 10 years older who was happy and confident and didn’t take his insecurities out on me. I’m now 27 and we’re getting married in April. Age doesn’t matter. Wanting to make each other happy does.
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Sadly this is all too common. Girls who are young and impressionable going out with older men. There is often a huge age gap. Some people are always poor judges of what is good for them. I believe there is one right person out there for anyone. But only some people can know what is right for them.
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It is a shame that in this day & age, people still act shocked when an older woman (Madonna for example) dates a much younger man. SO what? Nobody flinches about the huge age gap between Angelina & Brad do they? But when it comes to Demi & Ashton… well that was always a big deal & she was labelled a cougar. Pretty sad to think that not much has changed over the years. I have always dated younger men (5 to 10 years) as this is what I am attracted to. Never been into wrinkly old guys who need viagra. I say if an old man can date a much younger woman, then the same applies to an older female. Michael Douglas has always creeped me out. He looks half dead already but nobody ever mentions how much older he is than Catherine. Hmmmm…
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My father would not allow me to go out with a man in his early 20s when I was 16 and I reluctantly went along with it. By the time I was in my 20′s, I looked askance at men who prefer girls so young and thought it suggested that they weren’t really up to more mature relationships. Think I dodged a bullet there!
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I was that 16 year old girl with the older guy (similar age he was 23) and as much as I was torn up when it ended, I have now realised that every detail of the relationship was completely controlled by him. He acted all romantic and told me all the things that the insecure, self conscious, nerdy and lonely 16 year old girl that I was wanted to hear, that I was pretty, he cared about me, he liked me/loved me.
So glad I got out of this relationship and that the friendship died soon after. It could have totally thrown my life off the rails and stopped be from getting to where I am now.
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Ellen, me too! My now husband was 40 when I met him and I was 25. Three fabulous children later we too simply adore each other and love our life and family to bits! Works beautifully for us!
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When I was 19 I dated a 36 year old. I thought I was being really mature and adult – but now, in my early 30′s, all I can think about that relationship is that a thirty something dating a teenager is really really creepy.
It’s an instinctual “eww!” reaction, that I can’t seem to shift.
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First boyfriend was 32, I was18. He was lovely and is a great memory
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I can’t speak for what it’s like being a teenager dating an older man, but I met my husband when I was 23 and he was 40 and we have an absolutely brilliant relationship seven years on. I don’t think this is because he’s older, though. He’s just a really nice man and we adore each other.
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Age gaps matter depending on the age of the youngest person involved. I met my ex when I was 20 and he was 30 (although he did lie and say he was 27 – red flag). He was my first serious boyfriend, I was living in a foreign country and was very inexperienced and naive about men. On reflection (and since dumping him after an abusive 6 months), I know that a man who is 10 years older than a virginal 20 year old should not pursue her. It is weird! He clearly couldn’t get women of his own maturity level interested and also like to be the one in control. It was definitely all about him and his power. I am so glad that I ended it although he continues to contact me years later. These guys are obsessive. I definitely think his age was a factor in why our relationship failed. He used his age as a way to manipulate me.
A different perspective is that I am now 22 and have dated a few guys since breaking up with the abusive ex. My current boyfriend is 28 so that’s a 6 year age difference (much better than 10 years). I feel much more mature and experienced than I did when I was 20. I feel like an equal to my boyfriend and he treats me me as one.
Basically, in my experience, if you are a mature and self-assured enough person then you will cope with dating someone older. Also, if you are mature and self-assured then you will be able to spot the guys who might be preying on you. I’m very happy now but wasn’t before. Use your head and don’t be with someone if there are any doubts in your mind. And most of all don’t settle for any guy who shows you some attention!
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Love this! “…don’t settle for any guy who shows you some attention.” Wish I could go back in time and tell my teenage self this! At that age a teeny bit of attention meant SO much!!
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What is a big age gap?
Obviously the gaps seem bigger the younger you are… a 15 year old dating a 25 year old is a big age gap for example.
But by the time you’re in your late 20s or older is an age gap of 10-12 years really that big? I can’t see anything unusual about a 30 year old woman dating a 40 year old man but a lot of the comments below are from people giving examples of age differences like that…. ? I’d have thought by then that the gap would need to be 15-20 years or more before it’s relevant to this post?
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No sorry i don’t agree. I have a few friends that have dated/married/divorced dead beat guys and their age is irrelevant. If they’re a loser they’re a loser regardless of age gap. Two examples: 1 friend is married to a man her age who is controlling and mentally abusive. Another friend is married to a man 20 years her senior and apart from the usual ups and downs of a relationship he is loving and extremely supportive.
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I have a close friend who is with a douchebag as well, and he is also her age. But the article isn’t about general douchebags. It’s about how a significant age difference can bring out douchey behaviour in a lot of relationships by exacerbating the power imbalance. (And yes, I will use that term because knowledge is power)
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I was 20 when I met my 30 year old now husband. We were engaged within 3 weeks of dating, married just 11 months after meeting. EVERYONE said it wouldn’t last – many citing the age difference.
Sure it comes into play at times but out of everyone I knew who was in a relationship at the time of us getting together (and even those who have gotten into relationships since), we’re the only pair, 13 years later, who are still together, still married and falling in love more each day.
ANY relationship can fail, age has nothing to do with it, tho yes, for *some* it could have an impact – if they let it. If you’re willing to work at your relationship and take the good with the bad, then chances are, it will last.
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I think it’s very different being a teenager being with an older guy – as you said, your personality has yet to be moulded, and you’re not even an adult yet – as opposed to the age gap being 40-something and 60-something, as most of these photos are.
A lot of my friends are with older guys – 21 and 36, type thing, and I was looking to see if this article had something to say about that – but this was just about being a teenager with an older guy, which I now reckon is quite different.
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I think the age of the youngest person in the relationship is also a factor in all of this. Eg if a female is 19 and the male 35, that is quite a bit different to a 30 year old woman with a 46 year old man. You do a lot of growing up in your late teens/early twenties.
If I had met my much older ex today, I would have told him to f*ck off the first time he treated me badly. However, at 19 I just didn’t have the self confidence. In my case I had a very domineering father growing up, so I think I accepted a lot of bad behaviour from my ex as being normal. It took me a long time to realise that I deserved better.
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I met my partner at 16 he was 20 fell pregnant within 2 months lol
Us I was from a troubled home, I wouldn’t say I as promiscuous seeing s I had only had sex twice before…
But it’s our ten year anniversary in March, we have our ups and downs but we get through them
I think it depends on the people in that relationship
If its an older guy who likes to feel important and make the decisions, and a needy young girl who needs an older guy to make her decisions then yeah it can be damaging…
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My sister began a relationship with a 39 year old when she had just turned 18. What she saw in him none of us know (he has 3 children to different partners, cannot keep a steady job, and at one stage didn’t pay his electricity bill so she lived in a house without power for over two months). Her relationship with him and the choices she has made have torn our family apart, she ditched all of her friends to spend every moment with him. Everyone said not to worry as the relationship wouldn’t last but it has been going on for well over a year. I’m not saying it is the case with all of these relationships but from what I can tell (based on my sister) it is clearly an abuse of power when a man gets with a girl who is considerably younger than themselves. I hope every single day that she will come to her senses but until then I guess I just have to try and think that this is going to be a really important life lesson for her one day.
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This article is WAY off any relevant mark!
Taking out extreme ages where my creeping judgment comes in (Hugh Heffner anyone..ick) I don’t see age as being a factor. Either your personalities compliment each others & it works or it doesn’t.
I’ve dated younger/same/older and it’s all about what is working at that time for you and for the relationship itself.
As for the abuse/power part of the male being older I can assure you both male and female of any age are capable of abuse & control issues.
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It is obviously different in different cases, but I think you definitely hit the nail on the head with the powerplay between ages. I was seeing a guy when I was 22 and he was 28, and while we both agreed that we were about as mature as each other, he often gave off the impression that he knew better because he had “been there, done that”.
Turned out he was a real douchebag anyway and very emotionally manipulative. The moment I saw signs of that, I was out of there!
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Nup. Don’t buy it.
Some men have a need to control their partner regardless of their age gap. I’m sorry yours were destructive, but I don’t believe that age was the only problem.
I met my husband at 16. He was 27. I’m now 28, we’ve been happily married for five years and we have two amazing children. He is, without a doubt, my best friend.
Like a previous commenter stated: you win some, you lose some.
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Early days yet. I was also smug at the point you are now. Give it another 10-15 years and then you can reflect on your choice.
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I’m pretty sure after 12 years she has a good grasp of who her husband is!
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It’s good to know someone has to be 43 and have been married for 20 years for you to take their opinion seriously.
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I’m not sure what Poppy means, but Lauraaa’s husband is still probably fairly young, active and earning at 39. In 15 years when he’s about to retire and well into mid life she might be feeling the age difference a whole lot more.
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So he’s retiring at 54 now? Good effort…!
Seriously people… 50 something men are not that old! Most won’t retire until well into their 60s and will be active much later than that… and when he’s in his 60s Lauraa will be in her 50s, the difference isn’t that great… I really don’t see the issue?!
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And so what impact of this do you foresee? That she’ll throw away years of marriage because he’s reaching retirement and she’s not? If that’s all it takes to ruin a marriage then it wasn’t very strong to begin with.
I don’t think these comments are very fair to Lauraaa, no-one has a clue about her marriage but her.
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I have no idea when Lauraaa’s husband plans to retire- maybe he’ll keep working till he’s 70, maybe he’ll retire tomorrow, I was just going off the average retirement age. All I was saying and that I think Poppy was trying to say too was that an age difference that doesn’t seem so much now might feel very different in a few years time, is all
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How old were you when you decided to have children together ?
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Oh, well….it didn’t work for you. It has for plenty of others.
You win some. You lose some. That is life.
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Just like you summed up in your paragraph: This is what parents are for, to protect you and guide you until you are 18. Even though teenagers do rebell, don’t agree but almost always in hindsight when they become adults they see that it wasn’t that bad from their parents to forbid or be against such a relationship.
Personally I met my now-husband when I was 19. At that time I was in a stage of my life were I had the time of my life. He was ready to settle down. I wasn’t. We had a bid of a distance relationship, which I ended after a short while. Then after years apart we started seeing each other again. By that time I knew he was the one for me, and I was ready to spend my life by his side. I decided to move to Australia(to be with him) and here we are now with a family and all is good.
While my husband sometimes says he wished we didn’t have those years apart. I don’t regret them, because I know I grew into the adult person that I am now. Also I wasn’t ready and I wouldn’t had been happy if I had moved with him, simply thinking that I would have missed out on beeing a young adult and experiencing all those things that one does as an young adult.
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I forgot to ad that my husband is 10 years older.(so when we met he was 29)
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The article and some of the comments seem to imply that parents could/should intervene. Good luck with that. As a parent who had to endure a daughter’s ‘choice’ (from age 19 to 23) of two 40ish fellows, you agonise over how to respond. They were manipulative and untrustworthy and tended to surround themselves with younger people but warning young women is a high risk strategy, since ‘no one understands them’ and you may close off the lines of communications. Anyway, who has ever had any success warning friends or family, let alone a teenage women, about their choice of partner? In the end, I chose cool civility (towards the blokes) and on-going support for her, which gets the main points across eventually (he is a dick and we still love you). I did wonder if there was something deficient in my parenting but I think it was more that she thought ‘mature’ men would be more stabilising with her tendency to anxiety. She eventually closed the age gap in subsequent relationships and I now have a beautiful grand daughter.
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I went out with a 34 year old when I was 19… Naturally I thought I was terribly mature and sophisticated! It didn’t last long and was just a bit of fun, but now that I’m older than he was I wonder what on earth he saw in me a naive country girl. I’m going to keep telling myself I looked good on his arm and was great in bed ;p
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I can’t help but think of this quote by the novelist Ross MacDonald: “When a man gets older, if he’s smart, he likes his women older too.”
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This articles really abrogates responsibility & is great at laying blame. A few home truths and fact facing might be needed rather than externalising. I have been with older men all my life & not endured any of the above. Choices are always ours alone.
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I think it largely depends on the emotional maturity & the intent behind the actions of the older man. I think most women who look back on their lives can see quite clearly that relationships with much older men have had huge ramifications on their other relationships, be that social, familial or sexual, before they read this article. I’m sure most of us knew this because we’ve spent years working out why we were as we were or why we felt as we did. I’m glad it worked out for you but a choice is not your’s alone if you are being coerced & manipulated by someone with more life experience & power in the relationship than you.
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You have done pretty well at totally laying blame on the men. If the women are 18+ they need to take some responsibility for their life and not just blame men for their bad decisions.
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I am talking about teenagers that are below 18, the ones that aren’t adults yet. And I would feel the same way if it were a reversed situation of a teenager boy & older woman. There can be an abuse of power in relationships with teenagers & older people. The article is about teenage girls & older men so my remarks have been about that.
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My first boyfriend was about my age. It was an unhealthy relationship that lasted 5 years (from 15 to 20) he was controlling, manipulative, emotionally blackmailed
me, struggled with addictions
the whole time we were together and completely controlled my life. I too lost a lot of friends because of all the same reasons the author has given. That relationship shaped my choices in men for many years after.
I think all first serious relationships have the ability to do this…. the age of the man in question seem irrelevant to me.
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Sorry – this is long!
I met my first boyfriend when I had just turned 17 and he was almost exactly ten years older. We worked together for two years (he was the boss’s son) before anything happened. I was 18, almost 19, when his wife left him (they’d been together since they were both teenagers, she was approaching 30 and wondered what else was out there for her). I was the rebound girl and should not have become anything more. In fact I had a choice at the time, between him and a guy who was also older but only by 4 or 5 years (he was part of a group of people I hung out with at the time). I often wonder what would have happened if I’d chosen him – he was a bit of a ‘player’ so we wouldn’t have lasted but perhaps it would have set me on a road of having a series of short relationships throughout my twenties. In other words, a healthy and normal life.
So I ended up with this man who was ten years older, I felt more mature for being with him, he was quite immature so we sort of met in the middle, however, he was the first man ever to kiss me and I was totally inexperienced and naive. In hindsight our first night together was not good. I really wasn’t ready but allowed myself to be persuaded. Having had partners before his ex-wife and then a ten year relationship with her meant he knew a lot more about life and love than me.
My parents didn’t approve at first but they couldn’t do anything about it as I was over 18. Mum eventually came round and she grew to love him (I think because I was one less kid to worry about – I was at his all the time and I moved into a share house at 20), dad never did but he disappeared out of our lives by the time I was 22 anyway. I am the oldest of four kids and my parents spent their entire 18 year marriage fighting. My father was largely absent even before they divorced. Now I can look back and it’s obvious I was looking for someone to look after me, which he did, but I gave up so many hopes and dreams to be what can only be described as a 20-something downtrodden housewife.
I gave up a military career because he wanted me to. He encouraged me to follow my dream and join but the reality of missing me meant nightly phone calls with him in tears – his proposal while I was still in basic training sealed it. I know, there was no gun to my head and I regret that I was weak and so easily manipulated. I then worked part time and I went to college part time, also encouraged by him (he acknowledged that I was working and studying towards a better future for us) but the reality was that he was a different generation, his mother and then his ex-wife had always done everything for him, so he sat on his arse every evening and weekend, saying how he deserved his leisure time, while I cleaned around him.
He spent quality time with my younger siblings, especially my little brothers, who were missing a father figure, so my mum was happy. Any time I confided in mum that I was unhappy she made sympathetic noises about ‘poor him’. Basically I provided my brothers with a father / older brother figure which eased my mother’s guilt at choosing such a pathetic man to be our actual father. In fact her first reaction when I left him was “Oh poor X (youngest brother), he’s really going to miss him in his life”.
Everything we did together was dictated by him. My friends, although lovely, were the wives and girlfriends of his friends. The music in the house was chosen by him. The decor of the house was chosen by him. On one occasion he pretended to accidentally put a hammer through a plasterboard wall and then exclaimed that he’d always wanted to tear down that wall and change the whole layout of the place, so he did – over a period of about three years, during which time he spent every evening and weekend playing Tomb Raider while I did the washing up in the bathroom. But I always convinced myself that we made decisions jointly.
We went travelling together, during which time I had my eyes opened to what the world had to offer me. That trip was the beginning of the end. We went back home, I blagged my way into a job which lead to training in a career I’d almost given up on. Best job ever, best social life ever. He got jealous because I had a life away from him. He went nuts when I told him I wanted a separate bank account (always joint until then, because that was the first sign his wife wanted to leave him). He accused me of having affairs with male colleagues (I didn’t). I was loving that for the first time in my adult life I was “A”, rather than just “B’s girlfriend”. I started going to see bands I wanted to see, MY generation’s bands, he got jealous. He knew I was leaving him behind.
I left when I was 30 and he was 40. I was ready to see what single life would be like, what it would be like to be with other men, travel some more, not have to answer to anyone, not have twenty questions about where I’ve been or who with. He wanted to set a date and try for babies.
He wasn’t abusive, but he was a very dominant personality, he was the life and soul of the party while I was a timid little mouse always in the background. My personality, my hopes and my dreams were stifled by him but I know he didn’t do it consciously. He loved me and for many years I loved him, I broke his heart (did exactly the same as his wife did, for the same reasons) and it was the hardest thing I’ve ever done but it was for the best. My life since then has been up and down. During down times I longed for the security of being with him but the up times have been the best times of my life.
I’m now married to someone only a couple of months older than me. He also has quite a dominant personality (obviously my type) but now I have the confidence and life experience to deal with it. We are equals. I can’t relate to his life though and some of his stories of his teens and twenties are alien to me – from going to the prom with a girl (OK, that has more to do with us not having proms in the UK in the 1990 and me being a total social outcast at school, no boy would’ve asked me anyway), to dating various people, traveling, holidays with mates, not tied to a mortgage, freedom to do what he wanted without having a partner to answer to – all normal things but I skipped all that and lived a boring, suburban life far too early. He doesn’t get me either!
I have a daughter now and if she wants to date someone ten years older when she’s 18 I won’t be happy but I’m not sure how I’d stop it without he rebelling and going for it just to annoy me! I wish my mum had given me some sort of advice, but as I said, she seemed to be almost happy to not have to worry about me with all the other stuff she had to worry about at the time (she has since practically admitted that – “you seemed OK, he was looking after you”) and also (because she’s old fashioned) she assumed the relationship would result in marriage as I was sleeping with him.
In hindsight, at 18 and 28 there wasn’t much between us, he was like an 18 year old and I was more like 15.
At 30 and 40 the gap was massive, I wanted to reclaim my twenties and he was becoming an old man.
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“….so we wouldn’t have lasted but perhaps it would have set me on a road of having a series of short relationships throughout my twenties. In other words, a healthy and normal life….”
I’ve been with my hubby since we were both 16, now 32. Does this mean I’m not healthy or normal since I didn’t have a series of short relationships in my twenties?
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Yes. Yes, that’s exactly what she’s saying. Her comment was actually directed specifically at you, to tell you that you’re not healthy or normal. I bet if you read it a dozen times again, you can find even more hidden messages that are actually all about you. Go on, give it a try…
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Best comment ever.
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Lol, you hit the nail on the head… I was waiting for the right time to have a go at that other pesky ‘Anonymous’!
Only just had an opportunity to check back and after reading some of the later posts, I agree that it all depends on the age of the youngest person. As a virginal 18 year old I see myself in hindsight as little more than prey for a man of 28 who was a very dominant personality.
However, if I’d had a chance to live what I feel would have been a ‘normal life’ of dating guys of a similar age, finding my own way in the world and going through those teenage and twenty-something rites of passage instead of allowing someone else to map my life out for me like a parent, then if I’d met him when I was 30 and he was 40, perhaps it could’ve worked and I might have settled down with him. He was (and still is) a good guy.
Within a year of us breaking up, while I was having the time of my life with unsuitable men and travelling with friends, he met his next long term partner. She is the same age as me. I believe they have recently become engaged (so they’ve lasted about 8 years so far), so the ten year age difference obviously works for them – she had been a career girl and was ready to settle down. Good for them
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It seems to be more common (therefore society’s ‘normal’), to have a series of sort of practice relationships before settling down. Everyone I know who settled down in their teens has got to a stage where they are curious about what else might be out there for them. Not just my peers but some of my friends’ mothers too. In my opinion it’s healthier to date a few people your own age through your teens. I really wish I had, I feel like I denied myself some rites of passage. In hindsight I was really naiive – far more so than my peers in matters relating to sex – and to have had a sexual relationship with a man of 28 was most definitely not healthy.
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Hi Petal,
Yep – just fished it from the jaws of the spam monster, you should find it on that post now.
-Kahla
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Thanks Kahla. Sorry just deleted my request because I didn’t scroll down far enough to see your comment. Loved those ponies by the way!
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I dont think is the fact that he was older that he shaped who you were, but that any tumultuos (or positive) relationship can shape who you are.
When I was 17 I shacked up with a guy my age and that relationship shaped me definitely. He was my first love and he had a lot of positive qualitites but had a horribly sad upbringing that clearly affected him. Towards the last 3 months of our relationship it became horrendous and a month after he put my safety at risk I left him.When he attempted suicide after i broke up with him, I lunged myself into a relationship with a 29 year old (I was 18 at this stage) .
Yeah, he turned out to be a dick, but not because of his age, and really, I was a bit of a dick too, because in hindsight, If i wasnt scared of going back to my ex I wouldnt have dated him… I guess i was using him too!
Six months later we broke up, and since i was moving for uni within the next few months i had no intentions of hooking up with anyone else for a while. But, a month later I met another man, 31 (Me, 19) I wasnt really interested in a relationship but he was, we became friends, hooked up, and then when he decided he would move with me for uni, because id stated i didnt want to do a long distance relationship, he said if i was okay with it, wanted him too he would move with me. It was a recipe for disaster, but two years later I am happier than ever, he is my besty, and has nothing to do with his age, it has to do with that we respect each other, we challenge each other and we are a team.
On the odd occasion we have a fight, he might try to use his age in that he has been around the traps, and have more life experience, ie, that he is right because of this, and I just tell him to get over himself, just cos he’s old doesnt mean he’s wise! Haha.
My original point was, the relationship that have affected me and shaped who I am, for better and worse, were with the two people I loved and put the most effort into the relationship, and had nothing to do with the age.
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Seriously, if I was some of those celebrities featured in your gallery, I think I would be a bit pissed at the insinuation that either my partner was with me only for the sole reason of manipulating me and my supposed immaturity or that as a woman under a certain age, that any decision I make is not worthy due to my age.
At what age exactly is a woman responsible for the decisions she makes in her life? I would like to know whether as a 26 year old I still have some time where I can blame others for decisions I make, as it sure seems like for women bad decisions can be blamed on age…just my two cents
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If I were one of the celebrities in that gallery I would be well aware that our relationship was a mutual partnership based on me trying to prove myself as a ‘serious’ actress and him not having to go without having a hot young woman on his arm ever.
Seriously though, the age of consent in this country is 18 so all your decisions after that are yours and yours alone. (Doesn’t mean that because of that they’ll all automatically be good ones though.)
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It is younger than 18, at least in Victoria.
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Sorry, I meant the age of legal adulthood.
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I agree with the author & would love to read more about the study. From my own experience, I can definitely attest that older men can be attracted to & mould much younger & vulnerable teenage girls. The thing about being a teenage girl is you think that you are invincible to some degree. I was told my whole life how mature I was, how smart etc etc but I made the dumbest choice which in hindsight wasn’t my own choice but was coercion & manipulation by a man twice my age. He seduced me like an adult, literally. He took my virginity without consent which because of my age was also carnal knowledge. We were in a relationship for four months because in my mind you certainly didn’t sleep with someone you didn’t love, so therefore I must love him. At his suggestion, I went on the Pill, so he could stop using condoms.
He lived over an hour away so when he was available to see me, I would lie & say that I was with friends so we could spend time together & have sex in his car. I was still in high school & I was living this double life where I lied to my mum & snuck around with my older boyfriend. I’d always been well-behaved before, I’d been the dux of my year, I was motivated at school. But I was from a recently broken home & I was emotionally vulnerable without good male role models in my life. To top things off my sister had also had relationships with older men so this had normalised this behavior to me.
To me at the time, he was my older boyfriend. I didn’t tell absolutely everyone about him so he wasn’t my trophy boyfriend, just my boyfriend but I did feel so very grown up, going to concerts & out for dinner etce tc. But how he manipulated me initially set up the pattern of how my relationships went from then until I was 25. I inevitably ended up sleeping with guys way too early in the relationship. My third lover in all rights would, I believe, have been my first if I’d not met the older man first. He was my on & off boyfriend from high school & the guy I truly wish I’d been with first. How would things have been different had I never met the rapist?
My self-esteem took a dive without me realizing it. I had relationships with older guys, usually & strangely around 27, because that was the age he’d told me he was. Yes, he lied about his age too. I was attractive & willing & vulnerable. All of these relationships ended badly. I’m guessing I was too needy emotionally & I mostly chose damaged guys, funny that. By the time I was 20 I was depressed without knowing why. My mum was worried about me but as she didn’t know anything about what had been going on, she could only pin it on the family break up. I left uni & worked a season down the snow, then I when that finished I got a travelling sales job to get away from home again. I met a guy there & I eventually moved interstate after doing summer school at uni & knowing I needed more timeout before I finished my degree.
I’ve had therapy a few times. When I reached 27, that magic age he’d lied about originally, I saw a group of teenage boys on the street from a bus window. I thought to myself, I don’t feel remotely attracted to them, they’re children. By the time I got home I was shaking & I realised that not only I had I been raped & so shaped by this man but he was pretty likely a pedophile. He’d worked with troubled youth before he met me. He knew how to identify vulnerable people & he knew how to listen to them when no-one else would which is a hugely powerful thing.
In my humble opinion, based on my personal experience, relationships with older predatory men do not benefit teenage girls. They can undo you in ways you can’t even consider at that age or understand how far into your life their influence will spread. I understand that my story is quite different to the relationships with large age gaps one, purely because a 15 year old girl no matter how much she thinks & is told she is mature, is no match for a 30 year old man with an agenda.
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Rookie had a really great article on this recently
http://rookiemag.com/2013/01/older-men/
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Very interesting article, thanks.
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Regardless of the reference to age that may have some people up in arms this piece provides a reality to an actual sitatuation that happened.
Yep, sure, some people have / had relationships with older men and it all went good for them and that probably does have something to do with the people who were in them.
There is ALWAYS a reason you do anything…..sometimes you consider it, sometimes you dont, sometimes you wont.
I dated older men after my marriage broke up, it was safe and somehow a no go zone for a longer term relationship. The comfort was there, the energy, the life and the social drive wasnt…………snore, i would of kicked myself if i was 40 married to someone who was 55, lucky i was at an age where i had a little life experience and self esteem to make that decision
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I 100% agree. At 19 I took up with a 29 year old man… I thought it was because I was terribly mature when in fact it was because HE was terribly immature.
Of course no one could have told me at the time either.. thank god I saw the light!
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This is certainly apt for me.. I’m 24, and have just met/started kind of seeing a guy that’s 32. He’s lovely, smart, funny and attractive, i’m just concerned about the age gap and the potential ambition/maturity gap that might give rise to.. Thoughts?
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I’m married to a man eight years older and it’s fine! We met when I was 25 and he was 33. We’re now 30 and 38 and I don’t see it the age difference as being a huge problem.
I do however feel more pressure to start a family as he’s a little older but I put the pressure on myself as I’ve just turned 30 and know this is when I should consider this but I don’t want to have kids just yet.
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I don’t see this as a problem at all. I’m 27 and have been with my 38 year old partner for about 15 months now. He’s the best man I have ever known – he’s kind to others, cares about his community, is responsible and does what he says he will and I find him incredibly attractive!! He’s not perfect and neither am I but we adore each other. He’s better than any other man (i.e. boy – in mind at least) that I have ever had the (mis)fortune to date/have a relationship with who were all within a few years of me.
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I am, and have been for the past 14 1/2 years, married to a man 14 years older than me.
The age gap is only a factor if you want it to be. We did have some friends who had some issues with it-we are no longer friends with them
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My husband is 9 years older than me, we’ve been together 12 years, married for 8 and have 2 beautiful children. The age difference has never been an issue, we have always been madly in love. We both have different ambitions and are at different stages in our careers but what we have most importantly is respect for each other and we support each other 100%. These are the important aspects of a relationship, not age.
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First of all it isn’t just OLDER men that can be horrible manipulative partners. This can be male OR female at ANY age!
My mum was 21 when she met my dad. He was 40. 30 years later, 2 kids and may ups and downs are still going strong. My father is not manipulative, but support caring and spoils my mum rotten without having an ulterior motive.
I know of some younger girls who look for older men to take advantage of THEM. Men who would do anything to keep a beautiful young woman, and these younger women taking full advantage of that.
Please do not make such wide assumptions on a particular age bracket/gender.
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I agree maggie.
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Agreed. I have a male friend, who at 25 years old was basically used as a sperm donor to a 35 year old woman. Once she fell pregnant she dumped him. He struggles to see his child but has less money/resources than she does at this time in his life.
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Oh that is terrible!
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So totally agree, I was 19 he was 30. Everything was his timetable not mine he wanted total authority over me.. He wanted an adoring student not a partner. After 10 years and many warnings that I would never be happy with out him I left (much to his surprise). I am now blissfully happy with a wonderful life and man. I don’t think age differnce is the only deciding factor but I think that it should set off alarm bells.
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Well, here’s my love life in dot points:
At 15, I dated a boy in my year at school – I got fat, he dumped me. (boo hoo!)
At 16, I dated a 24 year old. (Jerk, regardless of age!)
At 19, fell in love with a 37 year old – we parted when I was 21 – we both new it was to be short and sweet as he was separated, but chose to reconnect with his wife and work on their marriage – we stay in touch – We both find it amazing that I am now older then he was when we met.
At 21 I dated a 24 year old – Again, a complete asshat !
At 22 I started a serious relationship with a 40 year old, with 2 children from a previous relationship. We were together 7 years. We parted because he had an overwhelming depressive and personality disorder that he refused to acknowledge, let alone address. This had nothing to do with his age. His oldest child is now 24 and we are still great buds.
At 30, I met and at 33 married my husband (4 years my senior) – And they lived happily ever after…
It’s not the age, it’s the person.
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I could not agree more. My first real boyfriend was in his mid thirtys and I was an innocent 21 year old. t took my life from a happy trajectory to a painful and depressing path for years to come. now I am the age he was when we dated I can so get his perspective and I just feel we were not at all on the same wave length. He had so much more power in the relationship because he was older and more experienced and more damaged by life. this really impacted on my sense of self and my life expectations as I was so in his thrawl.
ou girls keep away from the older men- they take more the. They give when your very young.
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I too fell for an older man. I was 18 and he was 29. I wasnt immature but naive. I was a good kid, never caused my parents any problems. We were together for 6 years and have a daughter together. Aside from my daughter if I could go back I wish I never met him. Our relationship was unhealthy but at the time I thought this was a normal realtionship when now I know it was far from normal.
I struggle with this everyday of how I will keep my daughter making the same mistake as me. Noone could have talked me out of dating him at that time and I ask myself how I will deal with this same problem if my daughter was to do the same.
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I could have written this.
At 17, I entered into a relationship with a 52 year old man. It seems weird when I write it and read it, but it was what it was.
Of course it was totally hidden from my parents and friends, but at the time it felt exciting and sexually amazing. I was a smart teenager who did well at school and wanted to grow up to be a poet or an actor and live a bohemian, intellectual life overseas. Boring suburbia was not for me. So my relationship fit in perfectly with who I thought I wanted to be. For a while, it was exhilerating and I felt mature and superior to my peers.
But those feelings were tinged with guilt and confusion. I also became very excluded. I chose to spend all my spare time (ie the nights I sneaked out of home or pretended to be sleeping at friends’ houses) with him and that pretty soon meant that I ran out of friends. I completely forgot how to hang out with people my own age. I missed out on birthday parties. On the night of my high school formal I ditched the after-party to be with him.
We stayed together for about another year after that, well into my first year of uni. I’d moved out of home but still had told nobody about the relationship. My mum suspected, and we fought about it, but I insisted that me and this guy were “just friends”. My mum must have been worried sick.
Now that I look back, I’m clearly very angry at this man for taking advantage of my hopes and aspirations and taking advantage of my very self-image. Taking advantage of who I wanted to be. But I don’t know, maybe he was in love with me too. He said he was. Even when I ended it, he called me crying for years afterwards saying I was the love of his life. And I have to admit, to this day it was still the best sex I’ve ever had.
I’m 30 now and my husband is seven years older than me, but he’s a “young” 37 and in no way embodies the characteristics of the other guy. I regret my relationship at 17 but I think it forever formed me and shaped me. Even now, my typical “type” — despite who I ended up marrying — is still distinguished, grey, intelligent older men (hello Lateline’s Tony Jones!).
I do think it damaged my self-esteem though. I missed out on teenagehood in a way. My subsequent relationships were all with men who were 10+ years older than me. I’ve never had an experience of dating a man my own age and going through life’s big stages together. But then again, I’ve been lucky enough to be with men who were educated and wise and well-travelled and had a bit of life under their belts. But it did make me feel like I was old before my time and like I was completely unattractive to younger men. I’ve always felt out of step with ppl my own age and only now am I starting to bridge that gap, mainly because of kids and the shared experiences of motherhood.
But I don’t know. Would I have had a better life experience if my first relationship had been with a 17 year old boy who slept with me and then laughed with his friends about it? Who chose surfing over being with me? A boy who knew nothing of the world? Who knows.
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Really interesting read. I have to enlighten you about your generalisation at the end though, which you may not realise because you didn’t live it. The alternative is not always like that. It is probably seldom like that.
My first sexual relationship WAS with a 17 year old boy.
He did not sleep with me and then laugh with his friends about it. He was discreet, respectful, affectionate and loving.
He didn’t surf. In fact, he didn’t turf me aside for any extracurricular hobbies. Apart from school and close friends, we were joined at the hip.
A boy who knew nothing of the world? Not true. He was considerate and thoughtful and open minded and well read. He may not have had that much life experience yet, but he ran deeper than most would assume 17 year old boys run. Also, still to this day 16-17 years on, we shared some of the best sex in my life.
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My parents allowed my 16 year old sister to date a 23 year old.
WHAT were they thinking?
Even she now says it was insane – although she has her own daughter now.
Mum’s reasoning was ‘if we forbid her she would have gone ahead and done it anyway’. I disagree. My sister was a studious, good girl. I think my parents (especially my dad) were a tad blindsided by the fact that this guy was a famous football player. I say all the more reason to act like responsible parents and kick his ass out the door.
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Lovely written article, but I think the point that you are trying to make here is more that we sometimes get into bad relationships. The guy your describing could have easily been 18 – and still controlling, manipulative, etc. There’s nothing in the article your wrote that suggests his behaviour was because of his age, more because he just wasn’t really a nice guy.
While I’ve always pretty much dated guys roughly (5yrs or so) my age, I have lots of friends who have dated men both significantly older and younger. One of my best friends married a guy 9 years younger then her (and he was only 22 at the time!!!) and another has been with a man almost 20 years older then her for years. Both great, really successful relationships. They just worked and the age became just another thing they needed to address and move on from.
What your article did make me think was you should never just up and move solely for your partner. Even if the intentions are good, if you don’t want to leave for reasons of your own it will never work out. If for whatever reason things don’t work out the way you wanted them to, you will become resentful of him/her thinking ‘But I did this for you! You’re now responsible for my happiness.’ And then as they start to blossom and achieve all the things they set out to, you will resent them for it. I say this because I have absolutely done this before. Left my city where I was happy and content for my boyfriend of five years because he got a new job. But deep down I never wanted to go and as I struggled to make friends, find a great job, etc all the while he blossomed with a great new job and friends that came with it – we grew apart. I was no longer the bright bubbly social thing that he fell in love with and I knew that I resented him for all the things I felt I’d given up for him. Had I wanted to go for reasons of my own, I think it wouldn’t have worked out that way.
Anyway, just my two cents….
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“There’s nothing in the article your wrote that suggests his behaviour was because of his age, more because he just wasn’t really a nice guy.” – I disagree. She specifically says that the mere fact that a guy is older will shape the relationship, and thereby shape the girl:
“An older man, while comfortable in possible emotional proximity of their ages, is the most motivating factor of the relationship by simply being older. Despite her own understanding of her emotional maturity, a young woman will always be aware that she is with an older man”.
Although I don’t have a personal story to share about this, I totally agree with Tina. A young person (male or female) dating an older person would have to have in the back of their mind at all times that their partner is older, has more experience, probably more money etc. That has to shape the relationship, and must have in impact on the younger partner. It may not always be as bad as Tina’s experience, or that of some of the others in these comments, but it is a rocky road to travel.
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At 19 I’d completed a bachelors degree, travelled all over the world solo, been in two very serious relationships and had a lot of money due to inheriting. I had experienced more than many 30yr olds and financially I was well ahead of most people.
It’s rarely as clear cut as the older person being the more experienced one. Usually both people have something to offer. Being older doesn’t always mean you’ve grown as a person or experienced a lot. Many of the older guys I’ve dated have been in a rut for a decade or two, and have looked to me to shake up their lives a little and introduce them to new things.
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I am happily married to my husband of 7 years who i met when i was 18 and he was 28. I have never been contolled manipulated or abused. all decision made are jointly we discuss everything. I am currently pregnant with our 3rd child and we raise our children as a team. I am very confident and have a strong personality and my husband is very shy. i think personality has a lot to do with how people act in relationships and many people i know who have partner of similar age to there own allow themselves to have their oppinions and views regarded as not important compared to their husbands.
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You know, I think it depends on your personality, but also his personality.
I married my husband when I was 19 and he was 30.
He is a man of strong character, a man who is honest to a fault, incredibly caring and loving. He has been my rock through a very very difficult period of my life. I hazard to say that a younger, less mature man would not have been able to stick by me through 6 years of serious mental illness.
I am now 26 and he is 37. I do believe he has shaped my personality and who I am – but only for the better. When I married him I thought he was the best man I had ever met, and I still do. (And all of my family and friends do too!) Maybe I was just lucky.
I’ve also experienced the other side – when I was 13/14 I was in a relationship with a 17/18 year old man. That was the kind of negative relationship described above. An abusive, manipulative relationship that robbed me of my innocence and forced me into maturity.
I don’t say all young women should not date all older men. I say young women should be very careful, and not be drawn in by the allure of the “older man” part, but rather look at the man himself. If a 19 year old girl meets a 30 year old man who really is completely wonderful, and she gets some outside opinions about it (a lot of them, not just one or two), then she should go for it. Age isn’t a barrier to love with the right people
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I agree with Kate, I think it all depends on your personalities.
I have been told I am mature beyond my years. I was independent from a young age and left home before I was 18.
I met (my now husband) when I was 19 years old (he was 36). I met him through a group of mutual friends who all vary in age (including my best friend, her bf – now husband and a few other male friends).We began dating after being friends for 6 + months and after we had got to know each other etc. Neither of us sort out to date someone older/ younger. If it weren’t for mutual friends, I would not have considered it. TBH I was hesitant at first, but it worked, so I figured why not?
I am now almost 27 years old, we’ve been married 4 years this year and have 2 beautiful girls.
We both came into this relationship as equals and live a happy and healthy life together. We’ve had our challenges with my family not being understanding and abusive etc but have worked through this all.
Each to their own, but I couldn’t be happier.
What gets me is all the judgement! How does it concern anyone else? You are not in my relationship, we are happy. Leave it at that!
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