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82154124 290x338 What to expect when youre NOT expecting.

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by TONIA ZEMEK

I am not lining up for tickets to What to Expect When You’re Expecting, I’m busy working on its prequel What to Expect When You’re Not Expecting.

I’m 37, single and won’t be counting contractions anytime soon.  Not exactly a box office hit.  The leading lady is of course yours truly, but it’s the supporting actors and ensemble cast that really shine.

On a recent flight out of Sydney, a stranger advised me to freeze my eggs. Apparently it’s not just my tray table that needs stowing. Admittedly we’d been trapped on the tarmac for over an hour and were looking for ways to kill time. While I was ready to talk about the weather, 12A was ready to talk about my womb. As a former nurse she felt obliged to warn me that time was running out for me and my inconceivable baby. Granted, she meant well. However it did feel like an intrusion. My dear family and friends have never broached the subject and they know me better than anyone on QF544.

In the interest of full disclosure I should reveal I have discussed fertility with a specialist. Reproductive repercussions are a sidebar to a tricky thyroid condition I’ve been treating for years. Sadly my doctor has the bedside manner of a boxer. After some recent blood tests he was less than enthusiastic regarding my procreating prospects. “You’re flat out driving your own car, let alone pulling a caravan.” I do believe that’s what they call a TKO.

I know expectant Mums have their own battles to fight. For starters, they endure ongoing violations of personal space. Perfect strangers revel in uninvited belly patting and rubbing. Sometimes it’s equally frustrating for childless women. The invasion of one’s emotional space can be both unwelcome and unwarranted.

Although it may sound odd, there are days when the childless woman’s landscape jolts her headspace.  For instance, the expectant Mum doesn’t look out of place at a kiddy-friendly cafe. When a childless woman finds herself in said cafe, things can turn a little awkward.

Having said goodbye to a group of girlfriends with kids, I was just on my way out when I ran into an old school friend. We were lucky to recognize each other given our paths hadn’t crossed in over two decades. After introducing me to her toddler son and his little playmate, she looked around confused. She’d either developed a tic upon graduating or she was missing a child. “Where are your kids?” she asked.I looked around but I couldn’t find them anywhere. Heck, their father’s missing too.

I explained I hadn’t met “the one” and so I hadn’t delivered one and therefore here I am just one. We went on to talk about work, colleagues and the weather. After the obligatory exchanging of numbers we knew we’d never ring, we hugged goodbye. “Congratulations on your family,” I said and genuinely meant it. Desperate to reciprocate, she said, “congratulations on your….”  Pause. “Congratulations on your – career.” She genuinely meant it.

Sometimes it’s assumed us childless gals are so career orientated we wouldn’t know formula from forceps.  Alas, we are surprisingly well educated on bringing up baby. While our contemporaries are taking antenatal classes, we’re over at Pumpkin Patch looking for the perfect newborn onesie. Thanks to dozens of 000 purchases, my credit card has delivered some 000s of its own.

After a recent naming ceremony and the obligatory gifting of a onesie, I was invited back to the house for a high tea. Turns out no one was high, but the tarts and petit fours were delicious. After nattering with the dribbling guest of honour and her Mum, I mingled with a bunch of mothers I’d never met. I enquired after their children’s development.  “Is he teething?”  “How’s the potty training?”  “Are you still up all night or not so much now?”

My line of questioning was going smoothly until one of the Mums sighed in exasperation. “How do you know all this stuff – you haven’t got kids?”  That’s like asking a back bencher how come he knows so much about parliament? Had circumstance or gynecology been wired a little differently, the aforementioned Mum may well have found herself reading from my script.

Luckily my inner circle of family and friends is made up of wonderful women who have beautiful children I adore. Despite not being a card-carrying member, these Mums have always made me feel part of their club.  I’ve never been judged or excluded from a conversation. Quite the contrary, my input is welcomed and valued.  Our friendships aren’t forced or strained. Actually there’s not a stretch mark in sight.

Tonia Zemek has worked as a tv producer for over 15 years.  Her credits include MasterChef, Good Morning Australia, Big Brother and the TV Week Logie Awards. She’s gradually making the move from broadcast to print. Find her on Twitter here.

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  1. cheap oem software

    nA4shZ I really enjoy the post.Much thanks again. Want more.

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  2. D

    It is amazing how ignorant some people can be. A few years ago my boyfs mother said to me “O you career girls just leave it so late these days”. I nearly had to pick my jaw off the ground before carefully explaining that several unsuccessful relationships with commitment-phobes similar to her son made it very difficult and I wasn’t about to force an “accident” like her daughter. I’m still childless, would love to be a mother but circumstance dictates otherwise. Contemplating going it alone although quite a few people advise not to as it would be too hard.

    Tonia you have written this piece beautifully- I don’t normally comment on this site, although love reading the articles but you really struck a chord. Thank you!

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    • Tonia

      Thanks so much for commenting, especially on such a personal topic. x

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  3. Misha

    Thanks Tonia for your insightful article. Maybe we should all get t-shirts printed which say ‘yes – I’m in my 30’s, and no – it’s none of your business’.

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    • Daisy

      Amen to that.

      I have another suggestion we could add to the line of t-shirt – back off my uterus!

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  4. Katrina

    I agree that it’s absolutely none of anyone’s business why you’re childless, will you stay that way, blah, blah, blah blah. People are just thoughtless at times.

    One comment you should take as a compliment rather than patronizing – the mum who asked how you knew all “this stuff’. Pre-baby, I had no interest/knowledge of anything child-related. I live in a street/t-intersection of approximately 20 neighbourhood kids under the age of 5 – plenty of opportunities to learn, but no interest whatsoever to do so – call me narrow-minded and limited, but I don’t think I’m really alone there. That you have this knowledge/interest in all your friends’ lives and their children and experiences is to me incredibly impressive and you should be applauded for being so into the aspects of your friends’ lives that you don’t personally share. It says a lot about your warm, generous, giving and sharing personality and I wish I could be a bit more like you.

    In all truth, when I became pregnant, I felt like I’d crossed some invisible border in to a land I didn’t even know existed. You have transcended that without children and I think that’s an incredible fete.

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    • Tonia Zemek

      What a lovely comment Katrina. Thank you so much x

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  5. Lizi

    I look at one of my friends who commits every single ‘smug mummy’ sin, and think, well … how would it be if I’d been the one to have kids? Bet you we’d no longer be friends. She’s not really a natural ‘I love all children’ type of person, and I think if I had children, I’d be tempted to talk about them heaps!

    As someone said below, how much different is it to go on and on about your travel? Or your mortgage? or … whatever. If it’s not a shared experience, too long can be too much.

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  6. Happy Mum

    I really loved this piece and love the ‘no division’ comments. I do get it that some mums are painful but I find generalisations like this last comment insulting (not sure why I’m taking it so personally). Did my choice of name in this blog make you roll your eyes?
    Sorry to harp on, I’ll crawl back into my hole now.
    Look forward to reading more of your work soon Tonia x

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  7. Char

    My child free friends are much better listeners and often have better advice. They say “that sounds hard!” rather than “yeah, we went through that”

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    • Diana The Huntress

      Those stories are excellent contraception. ;)

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  8. Susan

    What a timely piece – I’ve just been to a little pre-mat leave luncheon that I organised for one of my favourite colleagues – it was me (no kids), mum with 3 and mum to be with 2 expecting no 3. It was brilliant,no division of mums and non- mums just girls celebrating the soon to be here ‘Master Tran’.

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    • Tonia Zemek

      Sounds perfect – but no mention of cake. There must be cake!

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  9. neola

    Great piece, Tonia. Loved it.

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    • Susan

      Cakes(plural!!) – thanks to the Hopetoun tearoom in Collins street. They fussed over our gorgeous but very laid back mum to be and it was multiple yummy cakes to sample.

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      • Tonia Zemek

        Am very pleased to hear that. I used to live just around the corner from that tearoom. You picked a perfect venue. What a delicious day!

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  10. Happy Mum

    Thank you so much Karen, I’ll keep that in mind. I’m sure to be free of smugness and annoyance now. God forbid. Seriously though, I agree with you, I find those comments patronising and rude in any context eg. You’ll understand when you have sex. You don’t understand you’ve never climbed Mt Everest. They are comments that make a person feel less of a person for not doing something. Annoying.

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  11. Possi

    I’m loving the subtle distinction between ‘childfree’ and ‘childless’. Admittedly, as a now-pregnant woman who wanted a family, I’d never really given the term much thought but I’ll consider my suffixes more now! I really applaud this article and the balanced comments it’s elicited (and as a soon to be mum, I appreciate the honesty of those women saying it’s not always what it’s cracked up to be).

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    • Torstar

      We have a group on facebook called “Childfree Chicks” if anyone is interested in joining and yes, we have childfree blokes in the group and even people with kids who can relate to the judgments the childfree regularly endure. All welcome and great reading on this article and the comments as well!

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  12. Possi

    I’m loving the distinction between ‘childless’ and ‘childfree’. Just a couple of letters has a really strong impact. I’m pregnant, and lucky enough to have in my life women who are childfree

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  13. Happy Mum

    I get what you’re saying Diana The Huntress, I often feel like I have to be so careful what I say (so as not to imply any of what you suggested). A friend of mine recently returned from a long stay in Paris and found she had to stop herself talking about how beautiful/amazing/different/better and life changing it was so as not to seem smug. We loved hearing about it but after a while it did make me feel as though my life was lacking because I hadn’t been. I still feel that way a little and hope to get there one day. Have you travelled anywhere interesting?

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    • Diana The Huntress

      Yep, I hear you. To an extent we all do it, bang on about things that interest us, I mean. It’s just you do see women who have kids do it a lot. Maybe because it’s so all-encompassing, I don’t know.

      I haven’t really travelled much. I certainly plan to, though. :)

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  14. jp

    Having kids is the WORST mistake I ever made – do not be pressured into it ladies if you’re not sure. Don’t believe the hype – IT IS NOT all it is cracked up to be. And from the ages of 8 onwards it’s all downhill from there. Just the constant worry you have on your minds for the rest of your life and it doesn’t stop at age 18 – don’t let anyone fool you into thinking it does!! The worry is always there till the day you drop dead! Why do you think SO many ‘mummies’ are obsessed with the wine bottle??

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    • Yeah!

      This is one of the things I love about Mamamia and being able to comment anonymously on blogs – honesty!

      Being unhappy with you decision to have children is one of the few things we’re never really allowed to express – even to our nearest and dearest.

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    • Anonymous

      wow what a comment….that’s quite a shock to here those words.

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    • Kateateight

      thanks for your honesty jp – I love it!

      My sister is not going to have kids. When it comes up, I’m like “Good on you! and if you ever need a kid fix, you can mind mine!”

      My parents are always “Can you talk to your sister about it, try and change her mind?” – I’m like “Why would I? Why would I want her to have kids? What do I care if she does or doesn’t? She doesn’t want them, and I can completely understand why”

      I always suspect those mothers who feel sorry for women without children had nothing much going on in their lives till they had kids. That, or the poor dears can’t remember life before their kids.

      If you have a great life without kids, why fix what isn’t broken?

      I also don’t need to pressure other people into having kids to reassure me I did the right thing for me (which I think is what is behind a lot of this pressure)

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    • Mary-Jane

      Thank you thank you thank you!! I’ve never felt the ‘need’ to have children, and I don’t want to be pregnant. None of it has any appeal to me. I love travelling, charity work and time with people I care about. But the amount of people who think I will change my mind – gagh!

      This honesty is refreshing and you’re one of the first people I’ve heard admit it.

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      • Lou16

        If its not for you, its not for you! It drives me mad when I see articles “parents vs non parents” there seems to be a beat up as a war between the 2. Why does it have to be, if you want kids well and good, if you don’t well and good, every one is different and each to their own!

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  15. Happy mum

    I adore my children with all my heart and can sincerely say they make my life more fulfilled, I talk about them often.
    I love the dear friends I made years ago through mothers group. After reading these replies I feel like I’m to be labelled as a smug annoying mum. Don’t judge me!

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    • silentlyscreaming

      After reading these comments I almost want to apologise in case I’ve ever come across as such!

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      • Diana The Huntress

        You’re probably only perceived that way if a) your kids are all you ever talk about and b) you imply others are less fulfilled. Also if you say things like motherhood is the most important job in the world, becoming a parent makes you selfless, you don’t know what love/sacrifice/sleeplessness is like until you’re a parent etc.

        If you don’t do these things, you’re probably fine.

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        • Karen

          Great list Diana!

          Also, any sentence which starts with

          “You’ll understand when you’re a mum…”

          or

          “You don’t understand, you’re not a mum…”

          If you say any of those things, you might be an annoying smug mother!

          keep it to yourself ladies…

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          • Miss Maya

            and my favourite “But every women is ment to be a Mom!”

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        • Mary-Jane

          And please don’t forget:

          “You’ll change your mind…”, or
          “When you have kids…”

          Never. Ever.

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  16. Optimist

    How weird. I was feeling a bit down. I am not sure whether I am not fulfilled because I have no kids or it’s how people around me make me feel. I do feel a bit ostrecised at work or with friends/family as I can’t relate with stories of children and all the activities that surrounds their kids. But after reading some of these I don’t feel so alone. This article gave me some feeling of acceptance. I will be 39 soon and my partner and I have been trying to have a bub I’m still hopeful..well if it doesn’t I’m still content. I just hope we childless women don’t get judged…

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  17. Chellebelle

    Great writing

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  18. Guest

    I’ve had a very curious taxi driver in the Philippines tell me ‘maybe I just wasn’t doing it right’ when I told him I’d been married nine months and I was not pregnant. He then followed this with ‘once your husband is finished you should not move for 5 minutes.” I had to pick my chin up off the floor. Luckily my stop was 50m down the road or he may have wanted to give a demonstration!

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  19. Alana

    Well written. I think we can all understand a feeling of yearning for something that we may never have.

    But I’m a 27 year old female & I can’t ever see myself wanting kids.

    No sleep, changing nappies all day, feeding, watching children’s shows, having no privacy… No thanks!!

    I’d take my much more interesting life filled with freedom, fun & sleep over chasing after a toddler any day!

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  20. Guest

    I adore this article. What beautiful writing conveying such beautiful meaning.
    I just got off the phone from my gorgeous girlfriend who does not have children, whilst I have two little girls. We were having a laugh about the “mother” vs “not mother” debate. We realised that despite our different mother-status we had both been made to feel inferior or left out by some “mum clubs” and some “single gal clubs”. Our conclusion is that the only club we wanted to be a part of was the “compassionate and friendly to other women” club. You articulated this perspective far more effectively than we did (though in our defence we were having our once a month phone call with a glass of wine- I guess that’s one other club we’re happy to support!).

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    • Tonia Zemek

      Sounds like a wonderful friendship to me. Mutual respect is my all time favourite club! Cheers to you both x

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    • Daisy

      When you start that club, I want to join – why can’t that just be the way we all are to each other!!

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  21. Peta

    Beautifully said!! xx

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  22. peppy

    Loved this post! Well written, Tonia! :)

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  23. Lara Cain Gray

    Great post Tonia – offering an important perspective that doesn’t get nearly as much air time as we mummies do.

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  24. phoodietweets

    A really, really well written and FUNNY post!

    Thanks so much Tonia!

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  25. Jo

    Brilliantly written Tonia!!

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  26. Mich

    Sorry for your loss speccygirl… Hope you are coping ok x

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  27. Again

    The questioning and passing of judgement doesn’t even end when you have children. “Stopping at two? You will regret it. Three is much more fulfilling. I’ve always regretted only having two”. Thanks for your unsolicited advice. None of us can win, always seems like someone else knows more and knows better.

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    • Faybian

      and then strangers (and sometimes not even strangers) freak out when they find out you’re having no 4. I got asked if I’d heard of contraceptives by a stranger, who knew I was a midwife.

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      • Anonymous

        I got that from by husbands sister and brother when I had my second baby, three years after my first. They both have no children.

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    • sunny

      Yeah, it really seems like nobody can win! My cousin has only 1 child (had her aged 38 so doubtful she will have another) and she’s had people say to her “oh you don’t want to have an only child, it will be lonely with nobody to play with/will turn out weird/will be a spoilt princess”
      I’m the eldest of three, and my dad used to say how much of a handful having three was- he much preferred having just me and my sister until my brother came along!

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  28. Anonymous

    Brilliantly witty article, Tonia! Such an entertaining read.

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  29. speccygirl

    I just lost my pregnancy (10 weeks) this week – I really loved reading this well written article and could relate to some of the feelings

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    • Tonia Zemek

      I am so, so sorry. You’re in my thoughts xx

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    • Vegas

      Sorry to hear that speccy – I had a loss at a similar stage and it hurts like hell because you feel like you’re almost at that “safe” stage. Went on to have my little monster. Take care of yourself – do nice things for yourself – you’re in my thoughts.

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    • Wishing You Well

      So sorry to hear this sad news. I have been there and it is so hard. Try not to be hard on yourself. I know it sounds a little superficial but my husband bought me a necklace with a charm that symbolised the baby we lost and it really helped having a physical manifestation of the huge emotional experience I was having. Take care.

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    • katscat

      Hi speccygirl – I am so sorry to hear about your loss. I lost a pregnancy in 2011 @ 8 weeks but found out at 10 weeks & had an operation. We farewelled our little one with a card & flowers that we threw into the ocean. 2 months later I was pregnant & 3 months ago I had my gorgeous angel. People in the MM community are thinking of you & please do not give up hope if you so desire another bub. Thinking of you during this hard time xx

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  30. Anonymous

    Disclaimer: I do have a kid. He’s awesome. But I was having a convo on Facebook the other day about this. I have a wonderful, delightful, loving and compassionate friend who cannot have children. She also has a medical condition that makes it extremely hard to get through a day pain free. Someone said to her, exact quote, “You’re never going to know true fulfillment.” Um, excuse me? That’s a load of bollocks. Since when did fulfillment equal children? She is happy, despite her medical issues, and shouldn’t that be enough? I love my kid with all my heart. But it doesn’t make me more fulfilled, more enlightened, more zen, more knowledgeable than anyone else in 99% of issues. All I can claim is that having said kid means I can distinguish between poo and chocolate from ten feet. (And if I may be honest, when my son was born, most mothers I encountered were pushy and smug, like we’d entered some sacred club. I lasted two weeks in mothers group before I had enough and started my own. Rule 1: Anyone can join. Rule 2: No, seriously.)

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    • melinka

      I think you’re awesome. That is all. :)

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    • Butters

      You rock

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    • Elizabeth

      That was totally awesome. People can be such sanctimonious twats. There are alot of people out there who cannot have children for whatever reason and it does NOT mean they will never find fulfillment. What rot. (as my grandmother used to say)….or like me just couldn’t be arsed with kids and find fulfillment in living a independent-I call the shots life.

      I agree…there seem to be some women out there as though they have entered a some silly earth mother club….bleeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrr. I would love to join your club. Sounds ace. If I ever had kids a mother’s group would be the last place I would join…it’s just a hotbed of competition and rivalry. No thanks.

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    • mummacass

      Thanks for being so real

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    • fatgirljesse

      Your friend also won’t experience wanting to rip her own head off her shoulders if she has to ask ONE MORE TIME for her child or children to put their shoes on, get in the car, stop fighting, stop running around the restaurante etc etc. Fullfillment?…bleh! if you ask me…

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      • Diana The Huntress

        Thank you, ladies, for being so frank. I’ll say upfront that I’m childfree by choice, not childless, and would have no idea whether I’m fertile or not because it’s not on my radar. I do have compassion for the childless/infertile, though, and never make assumptions about why someone doesn’t have kids.

        I’m very glad there are mothers out there who don’t pull the pity/disdain/you’re unfulfilled and cold bullcrap. It gets old. I’m friends with some fantastic women who have kids and many who don’t and it’s never an issue because we respect each other and don’t assume our own choice is somehow more valid.

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    • No kids, thanks!

      That is such a great comment. I am 24 and considering not having children, and I am so afraid of the retribution of that decision. Even my own mother has painted people without kids as “selfish”

      I saw a photo on my SIL’s phone of my three year old nephew, with poo ALL over his backside. She had him bent over so she could take the pic. Good Lord.. and as cute as my 1 year old niece is, I can’t stand the squealing stage she’s reached. :( It’s lovely to hold her for a few minutes, then say “Here, Mum! Take her” and escape!

      I may change later in life, I am young. But I can’t see them in any forseeable future, I just couldn’t handle it. Losing sleep is also my biggest fear, not for selfish reasons, I’m just afraid I won’t be able to function properly to take care of them.

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      • Diana The Huntress

        Dude, I’m in my thirties and while I can’t promise people will stop being nosy jerks, I can promise that it becomes easier and easier to not give a shit what they think and also to choose who you will and won’t spend time with- honestly, no-one whose opinion I genuinely value ever comments negatively about my non-maternal status, because I’ve chosen friends who respect me. Life is too short to make major life decisions based on what society thinks. :)

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  31. Elaine

    Great article.

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  32. LBF

    Great article and would love to see you contribute more to MM.

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  33. tanlee

    Congratulations on your – fantastic writing skills. You’ve given birth to a beautifully written article. I’ve got stretch marks all over my face from smiling so much :)

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    • Tonia Zemek

      You’re very sweet, thank you.

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    • girly

      Cute

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  34. Anonymous

    Mums seem to think its all about them and their kids when more women are child free (not ‘less’) than with

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    • Ana

      I felt so much the same way when I thought I couldn’t have children. Now that I’ve been blessed with one of my own (who quite frankly drove me to tears this morning) and I understand a bit more about why. It’s because you are your childs advocate. That is – EVERYTHING that they need comes/goes through you as the mother (and lets face it, there are a fair few fathers out there that make eyes role!).

      Think of it as if you had a friend who didn’t speak english. You’d spend a whole lot of extra time listening to them, translating for them, explaining their needs to other people etc. It would occupy your thoughts a whole lot more than if they could do all their own communicating. Add to that the fact that a baby and toddler can’t actually DO a whole lot for themselves – so everything that you do has to be multiplied by two – bath, feed, toilet, and then all the extra comfort for illness and unhappiness.

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  35. Mary J

    Oh my, I know where you’re coming from! I have to say I love your Doc, bedside manners minus but what a turn of phrase – first time I’d heard being pregnant referred to as towing a caravan!!

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  36. anon

    My inner circle is made up of mostly childfree women. Some by choice, some by lack of decent man at the right time, and some because of medical reasons. I love escaping my crazy noisy house to be cocooned in their homes with peaceful chats and glasses of wine. We never get interrupted by someone needing a tissue or a drink or to break up a fight. They are genuinely interested in my kids which I’m gratful for but their not having children doesnt leave a gap in their lives. It brings richness in other ways and its one I soak up when I’m with them. Just like they soak up the familiness of my home. They tell me they love my fridge because its full of kids stuff, and one of them always snacks on it when she visits!

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  37. vanessayoung

    As I get older, I am becoming increasingly concerned by the way people speak to each other about quite intimate and personal subjects and by the freedom people feel is theirs to make snap judgements.Time after time, I read about a poor girl who has been absolutely floored by some nasty and way too personal comment about her fertility, childbirth or child rearing issues and ideas.
    As for “How do you know all this stuff – you haven’t got kids”!! Well, presumably you WERE a kid, and you had siblings and parents. Even idle chit chat is becoming a minefield.
    Tonia, if we ever meet, I promise to ask if you’ve read any good books lately or seen any good movies, or what your favorite biscuit is (as another contributor recommended) but your womb is not my business.

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    • Tonia Zemek

      Thanks for your comment Vanessa and, for the record, I love, love, love Iced Vo Vos.

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      • Sammy

        See, there’s your problem – you’re actually a gay man! Jk… Love the article by the way, well written, not a trace of bitterness, enjoy your writing.

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  38. Ozlicious

    Oh, the attitude from mums is the worst. I work in a job where I have close contact with clients all day long, and after getting to know repeat clients well, a lot of them will start to ask about your life.

    I’m engaged, with three soon-to-be stepkids. We don’t have any of our own and aren’t planning to. I never had a strong urge to have children, so my current circumstances have worked out well.

    But, God, the judgement! The pitying looks! The questioning! The exasperated “you don’t have children so what would you know?”.

    The assumptions are also difficult to deal with. They tend to fall into a few general categories:
    a) You’re a driven, career-focused bitch with no time for anything but work.
    b) You’re a selfish, bratty princess with no time for anything but yourself.
    c) Pooooor you. You obviously have no self-esteem and have wound up with a partner who is using you as a free babysitter but does not consider you worthy enough to procreate with.
    d) Pooooor you. Nobody wants you, and worse, nobody wants to breed with you.

    There really isn’t an option for “had circumstance or gynaecology been wired a little differently”. In my case, it’s circumstance. Our life paths merged at a point where it would have been crazy to add a baby, and luckily for me, I haven’t felt (too) sad about it (most of the time). If I’d met the man of my dreams when we were both 20, it may well have worked out differently. Nonetheless, I’m okay with where I’m at! I wish strangers could feel the same!

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    • Anonymous

      I never understood why children is the only topic where you have to actually ‘have one’ to know anything about it. No one ever stands up in an Egyptoloy lecture to say ‘You weren’t an ancient Egyptian, what would you know’.

      I’m currently studying Psychology and have been tossing up between social and developmental psych as my major – and I keep getting this unsettling feeling that no parent would ever take me seriously because I don’t have children despite the 6 years of university it takes to be a developmental psychologist :(

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      • ANON

        Hi Anonymous,

        I studied psychology for the 6 years (I totally feel your pain!) and had to do a placement as a counsellor – counselling men on probation and parole and women who were in abusive relationships. I dealt with issues such as parenting, anger management, major life adjustment and mental disorders. I can tell you 100% that at the beginning there were major judgements about my ability and knowledge considering I was (am) a tiny blonde girl.

        The judgements were made out loud by most, asking what made me think I could help them given that I had no children/life experience/etc. I informed them, kindly, about my training and that I by no means was inferring that I knew how they felt from experience, but that I have been trained well and know the ins and outs of the science behind it. That I was simply in a position to educate them on the other side of things – to give them tips and coach them on what has been found to help people in their position.

        By the end of it, 100% of my clients loved me and I even got apologies from many of them for judging me at the beginning. Being a psychologist, especially if you end up doing any type of research or counselling, is about listening and sharing information – for both sides.

        If developmental psyc is your passion, pursue it! I know developmental and clinical psycs who are childfree and are taken incredibly seriously by their clients. As long as you don’t walk in saying “I know more than you”, you’ll be fine!

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  39. My Girl Friday

    haha ..great story ! I think women now have enough info about fertility that talking about it becomes a bit –boring? But this was funny. Waiting for the “one” is worst strategy..father of your children may not necessarily end up being the “one”?

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  40. Leeeleee

    Looove this. So true! I also feel the need to justify my single childless status: ‘I’m single….. BUT I just got out of a long term relationship! (there’s nothing wrong with me….see???).

    I also feel like I SHOULD be more career focus as that’s how you end up single and childless, right? But I’m not, so does that mean I have no purpose in life??

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    • redfred

      I am childless (and, being 41 and single, likely to remain that way) and I work part time. People are constantly asking me why I work part time if I don’t have kids. Er, because I want to, and I can. “But… but… how will you ever afford a house on a part time income? And what if you want a new car??” I’m met with blank looks when I say I’m not really fussed about those things. Apparently, not having kids means I am unfulfilled and therefore must fill my life with other things like a high-paid career, a house and a flashy car.

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    • Ozlicious

      Leelee and Redfred, I’m the same! I’m a beauty therapist, and while I’m very good at my job, it’s not exactly corporate high-flying, let’s be honest.

      I often feel like I should be way more career-focused and aiming much higher! I love my job but i feel like if I don’t have kids, I automatically need to be either making much more money or exerting more influence in order to justify my existence.

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    • Michelle

      I agree with the above 3 comments!! It seems that because I am single and childless, I have to justify my existance through having a high flying career! Why is society so obsessed with the “poor single woman?” We are not second class citizens so enough with the pity party and judgement! It’s neither wanted or needed!

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      • Tonia Zemek

        You all sound like wonderful women living happy and fulfilled lives. I’m glad to be in your company. Thanks for sharing your stories.

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      • jo

        I couldnt agree more about society’s obsession with the ‘poor single woman’ and it being neither wanted or needed. I am 40 and have been single for longer than I can remember – and am child free by circumstance, not choice. While I have a decent career and a house, and have been known to work long hours, it isn’t necessarily a case of being career driven – so it always strikes me as strange that people automatically assume I am really ambitious and intent on climbing the corporate ladder.

        But what surprises me even more is the way so many people freak out when they learn I can cook! I am usually the one volunteering to make birthday cakes or brownies for work celebrations and while this seems normal to me (I love to bake) so often people comment about how delicious the cake is and that they didnt think i would bake as I don’t have a family. Seems a weird conclusion to draw but I have encountered it many times in the past 10 years or so… God only knows what these people would say if I told them I was thinking of going part time at work just because I can!

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        • Renae

          At least the “Poor single woman” has a somewhat legitimate excuse. Up until recently, it was pretty hard to have a baby without a father.
          (slightly easier now, but still out of reach for a lot).

          Try being the “poor married childless woman”… who has a great relationship with her husband, a house, a good financial set up, and everything that would be *perfect* to have a child (from the outside view at least), but still choose not to do it.
          Makes the mummy club even more outrageously angry to come across us than you, don’t worry.

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          • Michelle

            Hi Renae

            I can imagine that would be frustrating and upsetting, continually being made to feel guilty for your own lifestyle choice.

            MM how about a post about this – women in relationships who have chosen not to have children. Would be an interesting perspective!

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            • Sweets

              I know of at least one article about this on mamamia. A married woman who has chosen not to have kids and some of the vitriol directed at her was astounding.

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            • Renae

              It does seem a bit like, if you’re married, healthy (no fertility issues) and you CHOOSE not to have kids, you must be insane.
              As Sweets says below, that’s something a lot of people can’t handle.
              I mean, I have completely legitimate reasons for my choices. I’m not just making the choice to be childless because I don’t want children (because I really do), and I’m not making the choice because I’m selfish etc.
              I’m making the choice to not have children, because if I was to have children, I would want to provide the best possible environment and life for them, and despite the fact that I’m financially stable, healthy and in a great relationship, there are things about my lifestyle (and my mental state) that as far as I can evaluate, constitute a bad environment to raise kids in.

              I’m making the choice to NOT have children for the sake of those children, rather than myself. And people have a really hard time accepting that.
              Thankfully, my family is in full agreement with me, so at least I have their support. Although, they think that this is only a temporary thing. Maybe it is, maybe it isn’t, but I won’t be having children until I’m certain I can raise them in a safe, healthy environment and be the best parent I can be, and if that means I never have children, so be it.
              I also have decided now (at 25) that if I can’t get things together by the time I’m 35, I won’t be having children at all.

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        • Imelda

          Oooooh yes this is me too! With my husband for ten years….married for three….we have great jobs, own our own place…but no! Our current level of happiness is NOT enough for our families and friends! Why no…sir-ee! When…when…when are we having a baby?! What on Earth is wrong with us?! Must be heartless….must be selfish….whatever it is….must NOT STOP ASKING…..even though I repeat myself tirelessly that *currently*…we do not desire a child…..one day, I swear I might snap and say something really RUDE.

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          • silentlyscreaming

            I’m surprised at how personal people can be these days. I can’t bring myself to ask people when they’re going to have children, because you just don’t know their circumstances. Last year I had a miscarriage, which was hard enough to deal with, but numerous people (unknowingly) chose that time to ask us when we were having another baby. It broke my heart every time, and I’d hate to think that a careless comment of mine could do that to someone else.

            Michelle – I think that would be an interesting perspective. Even these comments have been a bit of an eye-opener. I can’t believe what some people put up with purely for making a valid lifestyle choice, which frankly, is nobody else’s business!

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