Every time a man lies in bed pretending not to hear a crying child, a female libido fairy dies,” wrote father-of-two Jack Ellis last year in his entry for a competition to find Australia’s Mentally Sexiest Dad. “And you can’t bring her back by tapping together your red dancing shoes and saying, “I believe in fairies”. I know. I’ve tried.”
Were truer words ever spoken? Whenever I recount them to women they laugh. And nod. And then they keep nodding until their head falls off.
The reaction from men is different. They laugh too but nervously. One man responded by turning pale. “You mean every time I’ve pretended to be asleep is one less time in the future my wife will sleep with me?” He paused as the full horror sunk in. “Oh God, I’m never going to have sex again, am I?”
Possibly not. Confoundingly though, it doesn’t work in reverse. Ok yes, like many women, I’ve done my fair share of faking sleep when a child cries or a dog needs to be let out and funnily enough, this seems to have no detrimental effect on the male libido fairy at all. Who knew? Oh wait, EVERYONE.
Generally, female libido fairies have little in common with male libido fairies. This is probably because male libido fairies are not fairies, they are warriors. Almighty superhero warriors, who wear full body armour, wield light sabres and have magic powers of resilience capable of withstanding virtually any threat. Fatigue, anger, weight gain, hangovers, heartbreak, homelessness, Ebola, low self-esteem…they are immune even to kryptonite and gastro. Stress? Illness? Solitary confinement? Pah. Male libido warriors laugh in the face of such assailants and flick them off like lint.
Female libido fairies however, can be fragile creatures. Really, they should live in a bubble. Possibly bubble wrap. Or at the very least, a carefully controlled ecosystem where they can be protected from the infinite number of seemingly innocuous things that can kill them. Like resentment.
I visited a butterfly farm once and you have to walk slowly and carefully around the enclosure. It’s temperature-controlled so it’s very hot and humid because butterflies need warmth to survive their very short lives. There were still little pretty carcasses dotted around the place because they are so fragile. In another part of the farm, they were breeding butterflies by the hundreds to introduce to the enclosure so the supply never diminished to unsustainable levels.
Perhaps in your household, female libido fairies are an endangered species? Deserving of protection? In need of a breeding program of their own? Because there is no Australian Conservation Foundation equivalent for the female sex drive, I’ve recently been pondering the ideal breeding conditions for female libido fairies.
Tell me, what do you think would encourage them to go forth and multiply? Because surely this is a cause we can all enthusiastically embrace as a community (gay men might be a little harder to convince since they will not see any direct benefits other than the women and straight men in their lives being a whole lot happier but I’m convinced they’ll be theoretically supportive of the idea).
I think the perfect breeding conditions for the female libido fairy would go something like this:
You have a room. And just to turbo charge this a little bit, we’re going to put 100 men in there. Yes, it’s a large room. Natural light. Polished floorboards. Lots of windows. Wait, where were we?
Right. So in this big, light and bright room, all the men are sitting in chairs and listening. Just listening. Not solving. Not arguing. Not even making suggestions. Or even talking. Just listening but actively. There’s a lot of empathetic nodding. And understanding noises like “Mmmmm” at appropriate points.
Then, as one, all the men will get up and say, “Why don’t you go and have some time to yourself. I’ll deal with the kids/dog/plant/house/dinner/mess/your boss/my mother. Have a sleep. Watch the True Hollywood Story about Elizabeth Taylor on E!, or one of those documentaries about people who have 19 children. I’ll give you a massage and I promise it will stay G-rated. Read a book. I’ll bring you some cake. Oh, and I bought you this Vanity Fair with Rob Lowe on the cover. ”
Hear that? It’s the sound of brand new female libido fairies being born by the thousand, multiplying faster than you can say, “Let me make you a cup of tea.”
The tea bit is very important. In one of her most popular magazine columns ever, my friend Zoe Foster argued that All Women Want Is A Bloody Cup Of Tea. Female libido fairies like tea very much. They need it to survive.
A guy once asked me, “Does the female libido fairy understand the concept of ‘taking one for the team?’” Not really, no she doesn’t. As much as Bettina Arndt argued that the female libido fairy could effectively be made redundant if women simply “threw the canoe into the water and started paddling”, it was a tricky message to sell. A bit like work choices for sex. And we know how that turned out.
How fragile is your libido fairy? What kills it? And what makes it, you know, breed?





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I made my husband read this yesterday. Afterwards he said ‘of course the female fairy doesnt understand the concept of taking one for the team, there is no ‘ i ‘ in team.
Gee thanks for that!
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The motto of the 2 adults in this house is “Housework equals foreplay (when said housework is being done by the man)”.
Also, when female friends complain that their partner never gets up to attend to the baby, my standard response is “You must not be kicking him hard enough”.
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Spousal violence, that’s the answer. Well said.
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I love E True Hollywood Story. I also love it when someone else makes me my morning cup of coffee. For regular supply of both those things I believe I would do almost anything.
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Hey fellow fragile libido-ers!
As one of your ‘gang’ ten years ago I can categorically assure you that once the little-uns grow older and you all get more sleep, the libido fairy takes a hike and things return to normal.
Or not. My ex husband and I went without for so long it drove an insurmountable wedge in our marriage and we divorced when our youngest was five.
I therefore have one foot in the Bettina camp of just get in your darn canoe and one foot on land refusing to partake of libido-less passion(probably a bad idea…imagery of a funny home video moment happening…)
Stay close to each other for the sake of your children and remember, this too will pass
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So true Kathy. My hubby & I do it more now the kids are older (12 & 14). Ohh, the horrors of having toddlers burst into the room….now they just play the xbox.
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I find this article really depressing. I guess just the concept of using sex to reward or punish your husband. That and sex being viewed as a chore! No wonder a lot of men complain about marriage!
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Oh dear MM, you just don’t get the point. We’re not withholding sex or using it as a bribe or reward, but if we’re stressed, frustrated, overworked and feeling unappreciated, we just don’t feel like having sex.
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Funnily enough, many men, men who have hearts of gold, men who love their wives and newborn more than life itself, do turn over and pretend not to hear the child. He does this so he can get up at 6am and go into the city, work a ten to twelve hour day, and earn enough money so that he, his wife and newborn can continue to live in the manner that they are accustomed to.
By all means have him help out through the night, but don’t expect to maintain the same lifestyle. That this causes a problem for your libido is selfish at best. It doesn’t do anything for his either.
And frankly, at this point in time, shouldn’t the focus be on your newborn, and not how much sex you’re getting?
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The only hitch with this is many children don’t sleep through the night for years. And then they will continue to get up if they are sick or have a bad dream or thirsty. If you’ve got three kids you could be looking at 3-4 nights broken sleep a week well after mum has gone back to work.
Not to mention that even full time mothers who are physically recovering from birth and making milk might need a good, unbroken nights sleep sometimes.
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I completely agree, read my above comment, then read the one above that. It is hard. It’s probably the most rewarding job on the planet. I wasn’t up to the mark, but someone’s got to do it. And my hat off to all you Mums, and Dads too, if they’re helping, otherwise they need a kick up the arse.
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Funnily enough the mother also has to get up & work a 12 hour a day caring for a baby, possibly other siblings, running a household a
etc. It’s not a competition it’s a team effort!!
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It should be a team effort.
Seems like this post isn’t really about libido, it’s about those sleep-deprived years of new-borns and toddlers. It’s not a peaceful time. I’m not a parent, but have lived with, at different times, three children of this age. Some sleeping happily, one never sleeping through the night till almost her fourth birthday.
As a step-dad I would have rather gotten up, I was awake already, but the child preferred her Mum, understandably. Kid and I were great friends during the day, but in the depths of the night, only Mum could comfort her.
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and THAT is exactly the problem. both people work all day to benefit the family and one fails to contribute/respond to the family needs in the evenings/nights, so it no longer FEELS like a team effort, so our little libido fairies die.
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But Gig, what about when you both have to get up for work? Or it’s the weekend?
Women fake sleep too, sure. But my point is that it doesn’t impact on HIS libido the way it can on ours.
And a dead female libido fairy is a problem for everyone when you think about it…..:;)
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The weekend? Both partners should share the responsibilities, regardless of who works outside. If you both have to get up to go to work, why do you have a new-born unless you can afford help? It’s not the libidos that are the issue here, it’s the priorities of the relationship. Is sex more important than the child? Perhaps recognise that the pre-baby passion may not be possible for a few years.
BTW a man’s libido suffers just as much as a woman’s, although he sometimes takes it elsewhere for help. (I knew you’d like to hear that.)
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You know what, I appreciate that my husband has a good job that allows us to live a certain lifestyle, but he works 6 days a week and for 5 of those he is gone at 6am and not home until 5pm (or later), the 6th day he leaves at 6 and if im lucky is home by 2pm but it’s often later. After getting up at least once, usually twice a night, while he sleeps that’s a long, tiring day for me too at home with a baby and a pre-schooler, i can’t even go to the toilet or have a shower in peace! Im now back at work 2 days a week too, but im still the one getting up at night (he can’t get up to feed the baby) and getting the kids ready on my own in the morning, then picking them up from day care and getting dinner started. Please explain to me how my lack of libido, which is caused by lack of sleep rather than lack of desire, could be considered selfish? The lack of sleep is not something I have a lot of control over!
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I’m not questioning your reasons for a lack of libido, but this post’s insistence that something is wrong when that happens.
Obviously it’s going to happen, both to the man and woman. It’s part of the process, part of the ‘evolution of life’ if you will. It’s selfish on your part if you fail to consider your partner. It’s selfish on his part if he fails to consider your day to day existence.
Regarding his job, many hours a day, well he’s supposed to be geared for that. You aren’t geared for perpetual sleepless nights. If there is the wherewithal, given that you have a ‘certain lifestyle’, paid help during this time would take the pressure off. You need it, and your marriage will thank you for it.
However, given your situation, you sound like you simply need a break. I honestly don’t know how you mums go through this stage of life. Perhaps someone else can help.
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So I am one of those woman that if my hubby helps around the house without me asking him too, or he says really lovey things things to me my libido faeries wake up. I dont think they die, they just go into hiding.
My husband totally understands how my faeries work so he does say “go out with the girls “& when I come home washing is off the line, lunches made, kids fed & bathed. He is happy knowing he has done something nice for me & I will be happy & willing to to let the faeries out of hiding. I’m happy knowing he gets me so I also let the faeries run free.
The only real thing that seems to send into hiding is lack of sleep. If I’m tired I’m a crazy lady & no amount of cleaning or being lovely will find them! Only sleep will work. Oh & actually if he has had too much too drink the faeries will hide, cant stand the smell!
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I’m with you, tiredness absolutely kills my libido fairy. My husband has always shouldered half the load of babies, sick kids etc, but tiredness was always the killer. Now the kids are teenagers and sleep like proverbial logs. However I still have very fragile, pre-menopausal libido fairies who don’t like to come out to play that often (& I get plenty of cups of tea!) I really miss my pre-kids, twenty year old libido fairies. Any hints on bringing them back gratefully accepted.
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I have to say I don’t understand the whole concept of using sex as a reward for our men when they behave or act the way we want them to. Personally, my man and I have a rule where whenever either of us wants sex, we have sex. Sex is completely separate to things like chores, or how grumpy we are with each other, etc etc.
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yep, same here. sex is fun and how we express our feelings for each other, my bf’s a cornball and says its our connecting time lol i don’t think sex should ever be considered a chore. if it is…well that’s another problem entirely.
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Too funny. My libido fairy has retired I think, which is mightily unfortunate as my desire to have child no. 2 is all consuming . . All I can say is that you never know where your mind will one day take you.
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Mia, I loved this article!!! Read it this morning in Sunday Life after I had slept in until 9am because hubby for up to the 2 kiddies at 7am. He then went on to tell me that he was taking our son (3yrs) to Bunnings and suggested I go to the shops and buy myself the boots I have been eyeing off for ages.
This afternoon he played with the kids on the trampoline after mowing the lawn and tidying up the yard while my mum and I sat in the sunshine with a glass of wine and chatted about my plans for Easter which include hubby and I going to Daylesford for the long weekend with some friends.
He was definitely breeding libido fairies today and I am very suspicious that he read your article before I got up.
Mind you, they will very quickly die off tonight when as usual, when our daughter cries in the night, he will pretend to sleep so I have to get up to her once again, thus, undoing all the good he did today. Fragile little creatures, those libido fairies.
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So he’ll undo all the work he’s done when he sleeps after having what sounds like a very busy day looking after you and your kids?
Sorry, but you suck.
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I remember being in bed breastfeeding our then 2month old with our then 3year old also in bed screaming with an earache. He slept through that and the kicking from me. That explains why we had sex once in the last 18mths of our so-called marriage and split just after Christmas. Of course the fact that he was drunk for 4 days, hungover for 2 days and at his father’s for 1 day of the 7 days of Christmas and New Year may have also had an effect….
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Brilliant ! xx
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There are many natural options to take to help low labido. Maca is a fantastic supplement for labido. Many people swear by it. It is readily available from health food stores and online. Inspired Wellbeing sells a ton of the stuff.
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What kills my libido fairy? Hearing a fart at 7.00am from the ensuite so resounding that the dog next door starts barking. Finding the frypan from the night before still sitting on the sink when it was his turn to wash up. Knowing he had money when it was my birthday and just getting a card. Oooh yeah. Actually, I was so mad, I friggin’ smothered my libido fairy with a pillow as an act of vengeance.
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What is keeping you together ? Guy sounds like a major turnoff. I’d venture to suggest that you keep your windows shut to prevent the Libido Fairy from ever getting into the house.
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I know it isn’t funny but you made me laugh! Sounds like he needs a wake up call. We had a similar situation with the birthday card/ presents. I always go out of my way to get gifts that I know my husband will love / need / has asked for. He had gone about 6 years without buying me a proper gift – once I got a $20 scarf, another time I got a mobile phone case, other years he was deployed so not here to shop. I pointed this all out to him after he “forgot” our wedding anniversary again. He actually listened and this year presented me with a beautiful diamond pendant that I had mentioned I loved but couldn’t find one anywhere in Australia. He found one online. I felt so special because he had gone to so much trouble and gone way out of his comfort zone. I actually took the pillow off my libido fairy…
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Oh wow, your scenario with the massage, talking, taking a break to watch E!, Vanity Fair – all of it sounds just like heaven to me. I’m printing this article out for my hubby to read RIGHT NOW.
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Another fairy killer is when the bloke goes out for an entire weekend day with a friend, etc. I do get some time to go out on my own (i.e. a movie alone) but never for that long. Yes, part of that is my choice as I hate being away from my little girl, but it still can be difficult keeping a very active preschooler entertained ALL day without a car! It’s not as if he cleans the house or cooks dinner before going out-it’s all on me
He has plenty of good traits but the only time he’s alone with her for that long is when I’m at work. Ugh!
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Is anyone emailing this link to their partners?
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My wife sent it to me. No doubt as some sort of explanation of how she feels. Poor pet has very fragile little fairies that die at the merest thought of unkindness. Conversely, my libido is indestructable, and never satisfied of course.
I think there have been some interestng comments. I’m not going to accept it is as simple as men needing to be more sensitive though. Women need to be a bit less fragile as well if you ask me. I’m sick of being blamed for the troubles of the world as it is, now I’m supposed to take repsonsibility for my wife’s flimsy libido as well? Just jump in the bloody canoe and start paddling as Bettina puts it.
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No one is always in the mood ! Sometimes even the male libido fairy flits off in a different direction when the request for some good lovin’ is made.
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Absolutely.
We don’t all live for you know what.
Some of us actually need to be coaxed, because, you know, A hard day at work and a complaining spouse doesn’t always get one in the mood.
Frankly sleep is currency sometimes
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Oh, jeez, why do you put it up with it? If it’s his turn, wake him up and tell him it’s his turn! Don’t be a martyr. Sex is awesome. Why would anybody NOT want to do it? Do your husbands have no skillz? Female libido is not just about housework. Housework doesn’t turn me on. Receiving oral sex does.
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My hubby has to get up for the kids anyway, seeing as I have to wear earplugs to counteract his snoring. Lucky they’re school aged and rarely wake anyway. I do get cups of tea made for me though.
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Ahhh, the libido fairy – love it!
Brings back memories of the game we used to play – who’s going to get up first. Maybe if we just ignore him, he’ll stop crying……he might……maybe soon…..SHIT I’LL GET UP AGAIN SHIT SHIT SHIT (me) (again). Hubby a good father during the day though, even when both kids were really small – used to walk around the neighbourhood with baby in sling watching the sun rise. He probably got some nookie those nights!
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My darling husband thinks that if he lets me have a sleep in on one morning on a weekend, that means I won’t be too tired for a bit of nookie that night. We’ve been married for 11 years and he hasn’t yet worked out that the amount of nookie he gets is relative to how many nights of unbroken sleep I have had in the previous week. He thinks that ironing the kids school uniforms on a Sunday night will get me into bed faster.
Surely someone could bottle a recipe to fix this female libido and keep everyone happy at the same time?
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I think you need to feel like your needs are being met before you can meet his. If my boyfriend hasn’t been very cuddly (g-rated) or helpful around the house, I won’t feel like sex. But if he’s helping out, if he’s cooked dinner or sorted out the cats’ litter, then I’m much more likely to feel like a roll in the hay. As a woman, I think it’s important (for me) to feel appreciated by him, that he notices the work I put in around the house and with my appearance etc, and that he is trying to do the same kind of things for me. Sometimes it happens, a lot of the time it doesn’t. But we’re trying.
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Had to re post this it is so funny… or NOT!
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Mia, this is so true! Those first few months of sleeping in 2-3 hour blocks were a killer. But hubby would cook, clean up etc and so the Libido Fairy stayed alive. She was more interested in sleeping, but she was still around!
As our son has gotten older, she is still very much alive. But again hubby comes home from work and plays with our son while I cook dinner, and baths him while I clean up. Our son mostly sleeps through, but teething, illness or trips away disturb his sleep. I still get up to him more often, but hubby does his share of the wake-ups too.
So my Fairy is happy to be friends with his Warrior because I feel my needs as a mother and wife are met. I think that is the key. My hubby acts like a father and lets face it, not all men do. If he didn’t, I think my Fairy would go all Warrior on his ass!!
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Hi, we are both in our 40′s and have been together for 3 years…. My partner has a very high libido and it has almost killed my sex drive completely.
He tries to initiate sex constantly, even half an hour after we have had sex. I’ve tried to tell him (constantly/weekly/sometimes daily) that this is putting me off sex altogether. I feel defensive as he comes near me. And I try to avoid it, before kind of resolving to do it. It sounds terrible I know.
I’ve always had a really healthy sex drive but this is too much. If I wake in the middle of the night for the loo, I creep to the bathroom for fear of waking him and his libido. A g-rated massage is a distant memory (from past relationships – not this one). In fact, even a simple greeting as I walk in the door, or a cuddle nearly always leads to him groping, sighing and trying to have sex. Even sitting on the couch watching telly is impossible. He says I should be flattered. I tell him I’d be flattered if he listened to me, and took into account what I feel/need. If he gave me some space, my desire would probably resurface.
I don’t know what to do – I think its going to destroy our relationship. I talk to him about it, but he seriously tries again 10 mins after we’ve spoken. Apart from this he is very loving and attentive, in and out of the bedroom. I wonder if its some kind of anxiety on his part, maybe the aftermath of his marriage break-up 4 years ago??
Any advice out there for coping with a (generally sweet but over-eager) libido fairy destroyer?
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Would counselling work? Might make him understand and if it is due to other issues help him resolve them? Must be awful for you to live that way and you’re right – he should listen to you and find a balance to what you both need. Big Hugs.
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Hit him with a hammer?
But seriously, he’s not listening to you. He needs to listen to what you’re saying to him and I’m not sure how you can make him to that if you’ve tried already. Sit him down and tell him point blank that if he doesn’t start listening you’ll need counselling. If he won’t do that then he has to understand that the relationship might end. You can’t live with a man who keeps pawing at you when you’ve asked him not to. It’s not love, it’s disrespectful.
Good luck.
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Thanks anon.
I have mentioned counselling and that’s definitely a no-go. I might try the hammer!
And thanks for the hugs MiddleC
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It’s possible now that he’s turned on the tap after a 4 year marraige,
he can’t turn it off?
Counselling is not a no-go if the alternative is a break up and
that’s what it sounds like it’s coming to. He needs to trust that
the more he backs off, the more you are likely to be in the mood.
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Oh dear God. How about a bucket of ice?
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A fire-hose?
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Send him to Sex Maniacs Anonymous!
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A healthy sex drive is great but WOW I would find that really really stressful too, that’s more of an addiction I’d say.
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I can actually understand where he’s coming from. I am a new Mum so hormones have almost killed off my poor lil libido fairy, however, before that I used to want it way more than my hubby (who has quite a healthy drive himself!). This is my second marriage and I feel that it was subconsciously an anxiety thing and just wanting to have that physical connection to feel loved.
Maybe try making him feel appreciated and loved in other ways and he may find less need to constantly initiate physical affection?
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I can relate. We’ve been together very happily for over 20 years and the ONLY source of tension has always been that his warrior way outdoes my fairy. He’s not as extreme as your bloke but def can’t cuddle in bed, have a g-rated massage or sleep like spoons. Can’t even touch him at night without having it turn into sex. We’ve talked about it a lot. To stop me feeling defensive and put off, what we do now is this: he has to book me in! So he asks for sex and if I say ‘no’ that night I give him another date, usually the following night and I will make sure I’m ready and keen. In the meantime he’s got to leave me alone! Kinda lacking in spontaneity, I know, but it works for us. Once you’ve had kids spontaneity can be a bit unrealistic/overrated.
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Has he heard of masturbation? Perhaps you should tell him to scratch his own itch…
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Wow I have a warrior libido and my husband’s is the fragile one – I have wondered for years about this. Maybe he does actually do more housework than I do – a fact that he has been arguing for years!
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Great article
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I Love this! Too funny.
My libido fairy seems to have gone on holidays since 3 kids and a bit of a mental breakdown. she appears occassionally but think she needs to be institutionalised. I think she’s manic. she has periods of severe highs and lows.
The highs tend to happen when we are on holidays. Not straight away, it takes a a few days for her to find her wings. She goes into a deep depression when i’m depressed or just feeling over whelmed. It seems to take her longer to dig her self out of it than me I’m afraid. I don’t think she’s very good friends with the hormone fairy. they seem to disagree a lot.
I think once the kids are a bit older, out of tantrums and nappies my husband and i might try to make peace with her. At the moment the manic episodes seem to be ok with me but my husband is not coping too well and seems to have turned into a bit of a rabid beast ready to pounce on me at a moments notice. Enter the hormone fairy, she is definately not letting any of that happen at the moment. Maybe they are in cahoots after all?
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i think the highs and lows are very normal actually!
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I am read this in bed on a sunday morning. My husband got up with the baby, he also got up with her last night (well, 2 out of 4 times the little bugger!), brought me tea and toast and my magazine shut the bedroom door. This is not a regular occurrence, it was negotiated at 6am yesterday morning when I was getting up and he wanted to stay in bed. Even so, listening to him playing and singing with our daughter, I love him that little bit more right now. What you say is sooo true.
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$10 says he gets lucky in the next 48 hours…..
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On the flip side I used to work on security / car park duty at kings court a few years ago. 6 out of 10 cars had baby capsules in the back and most of our clients were white middle class beta males, the girls regularly did 10 – 12 tricks a shift (i.e. 120+ ) per day. Now I estimate there is a “massage parlor” every 2 klms up the pac hwy from Nth sydney to Hornsby, and the same number on Victoria Rd, Princes Hwy and Parramatta Rd. Just look in the ads section of your local paper or the telegraph. I recon their are about 10,000 working girls in the sydney metro area.
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And you’re telling us this because…….?
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I think he’s saying men with children that aren’t getting any at home, will go and see prostitutes.
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Max, you sure did kill a few thousand female libido fairies with that comment, was that the aim?!
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I dont mean to kill Libido fairies or be mean with My comment they are just the facts that I have seen personally. I have got a hear actually a broken heart at the moment from a girl who I wanted to marry but who wanted more wild stuff than I was comfortable with (leather, s&m etc) for the mother of my future children.
I viewed her desire thru the prism of a white middle class conservative christian upbringing and I’ve just gotten my heart smashed because of it.. Maybe I should have looked at things differentlty. “taken one for the team” as it were. I dont know. All I know is that its real important to look at “the flip side” of love / sexual situations and try to work as a team
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I have been with my partner for nearly 20 years, we have never had a time in our relationship without children around ( 2nd time around for both). He brings me a cup of tea in bed every morning, so YES female libido fairies do like cups of tea!! And you know what they dont even mind a canoe occasionally!!!! ( see hard copy in Sunday Life, which has a slightly different ending)
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All my husband need to do to get the female libido fair breeding is say the following: “I love you darling and you look very thin today. Dinner’s made, the house is clean and the child is asleep. After dinner, let’s go to bed and cuddle only. If our daughter wakes up in the night, I’ll get up, you roll over and go back to sleep. And you feel free to have a sleep-in in the morning.”
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I know! It’s so easy, why can’t they get it???
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Oh my god that sounds heavenly!! yep that would be my perfect day too – and he would get very lucky!! hehe
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OK, this explains why my libido fairy is on steroids
I knew Mr By was a keeper when he helped me clean up one of my children’s sicks on a very early sleep over after we realised things were serious.
When I study, Mr By keeps himself gorgeous by running up and downstairs with cuppas.
When I’m tired after a huge week, Mr By keeps the children entertained so that I can have a wee sleep in.
He’s not perfect ( he doesn’t cook), but he’s damn close
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Extra points for cleaning up vomit he’s not genetically related to….
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Great, now I’m imagining vomit…. ‘Aw, he looks just like his father’.
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Does he have a brother???
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Guh. I don’t have kids or a husband. But if I marry someone who pretends to be asleep while babies scream I am going to kick his ass or possibly divorce him. I never, ever, want to be the person who does the majority of the work around the house/with kids etc. I want it to be equal. And I want to have lots of sex.
This article has depressed me.
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Oh, don’t be depressed. I think it starts with usually the mumma is at home and breastfeeding and the babies are up a lot. So, in my case, I had to get up to feed her (also cos I just wanted to look at her gorgeous face!) and while hubby was off at work the next day, bubba and I were having lovely naps catching up on the sleep. It’s just now that she’s a bit older and I’m back at work part-time that a bit of equality is needed. But at the start, the person at home usually does end up doing the majority of housework and kid-work. It’s all about negotiation and what is best for your family. You need someone to be able to function at work and earn the money for all the mothers group coffees – then get up at the weekends of course!
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Which is why we should encourage dads to take some solo parental leave with their babies (once past the breastfeeding stage obvs)
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My husband was keen to do the stay at home dad thing before we had kids but having them is a totally different reality. This is going to sound really sexist (and I do identify myself as a feminist) but in a lot of cases women are better at being the primar caregiver. Call it maternal instinct, whatever, but I think my husband finds looking after the kids a lot more difficult and frustrating than I do even though he is factastic with them and gets up early with them every morning while I sleep in.
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Maybe in your case, but truly, most men can do a brilliant job if allowed to.
Different yes, but not worse.
I think all men should have a chance to solo parent and they will truly take up the challenge brilliantly.
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Don’t worry Melissa, if and when you have kids, you will probably fake as many sleeps as your partner. It’s not just the guys who pretend not to hear……
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Putottis in your marriage vows, think it might be the only way a man will take it seriously enough, they all say they will help and get up to the kids at night but very few actuuly end up fount it
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I think the thing that has depressed me about this is that to me, sex is a priority. It isn’t something that is ‘earned’ by someone doing their fair share of the work. Or by doing something nice. Or something that I have to be in the mood for. I don’t want it to be something that I do ‘for’ a husband. It’s fun. It relieves stress. It is sort of like having ‘me’ time only it’s ‘us’ time. If I ever do meet someone who I love enough to marry and get knocked up by, I really hope that I don’t lose that. That life and everyday resentments don’t change it. But really I am not married or with kids so I have no idea how hard it is yet.
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II don’t have kids (yet – I am 7 weeks preggers ATM) but I do feel like when my hubby has to get up at 5 am and go to work at 6.30 am, it might be ok for him to skip the 3 am feed (as long as he does the 6 am feed, so I can catch up on some zzzzs of course). This seems reasonable to me! But if I was working full time too, or had another child, I’d expect him to pull his weight! Even stevens…
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Oh God! Now I feel so guilty! My husband always gets up to the baby…
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No need to feel guilty. Getting up to the baby will not impair HIS libido fairy even a jot…..!
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True… His libido fairy is often in fine form when he returns from checking on the baby :-0
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You’ve just filled the room with people who resemble the Perfect Italiano man …
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAOiNVK3mzQ
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Hilarious. Thanks La Petite Chou
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I remember the few times I tried to take Bettina Arndt’s advice: to just do it, even though I didn’t feel like it. Instead of being swept up in it, I ended up lying there afterwards feeling like crying, as though I’d betrayed my own body. My partner, a sensitive and loving man, also felt soiled by the whole experience, and declared he’d rather not have sex if I wasn’t fully into it. Desire is complicated, and fragile, yes, and needs very particular hothouse conditions to thrive. Don’t force yourself if you’re not in the mood!
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I think Bettina might have also implied – ‘without letting your partner feel like it’s a horrible chore for you…’
When my husband wants me and I’m too tired I choose to think of him, rather than myself – and this is not a martyrdom thing, it actually becomes a loving, wonderful experience. Yes I have three kids and plenty of daily stress.
My doing this helps my sensitive and loving man feel great about himself and he is much happier to contribute as a father with these good feelings.
If we can give our beautiful men what they need to thrive and survive they will give back. Sex is really important for a guy – for the most part they need to feel wanted and needed more than any other feeling.
They are not the same as us females – to think they will see things through our lens is misguided and causes problems.
You can choose your response to any situation – and in situations that mean so very, very much wouldn’t it be good to choose a response that has a positive outcome? Because that would benefit your own situation – rather than detract from it???
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You sound like a saint, and a better actress than me. Desire is tricky.
It’s great you can be so loving and giving, and I tried with all the best intentions but couldn’t feel right about it.
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Sorry if my comment came off a little saintly – that’s not it at all!!
I do what I do for me – so it’s actually a bit selfish and perhaps even, manipulative. If he’s happy everything in our lives together is better, also he’s a very good lover – which might be why it is kinda easy to just go with the flow on this issue. I shouted at him yesterday for never saying sorry. It really got to me that nothing is ever his fault – so I am far from a saint!
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Thanks for the reply. Glad you’re human, and also good for you for having something that works so well. Also should
say that now the kids are older and we’re all sleeping
through the night, things are quite astonishingly good in bed again.
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If women are never in the mood for sex, they shouldn’t be surprised when their partner strays. I am not saying men should stray when there is not any sex happening, but you certainly increase the risk of your man playing up when he is not getting any sex.
Relationships involve compromise and very often doing things you do not want to do for the sake of the other person. Ok, you don’t feel like having sex, but he does. Maybe he doesn’t feel like :visiting your mother, taking out the garbage, mowing the lawn, or being a wage slave so you can stay at home with the kids, but he does it anyway. Now can’t women just fake a bit of enthusiasm for having sex ( even if they are lying there and thinking of England) just to make their man happy occasionally.
I know quite a few married men who tell me they know what it feels like to be a monk, ie they have gone a couple of years without sex, post children. Now ladies, if you continually pull the too tired, too stressed card don’t be surprised when he wanders off
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What a cop-out!
No matter how much sex a man is missing out on, it is no excuse to sleep around.
And it is not only the man who makes compromises in a relationship. We all do things that we don’t necessarily want to when it comes to the person we love.
I worked full-time before I became a Mum, and it still has nothing on how tiring it is looking after a child/children full time. Yet so many Mums out there find themselves doing the majority of the childcare outside of business hours. It’s any wonder Mums are always tired!
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I have to agree with Bettina, last night, the kids were at Grandparents, we had our first night alone for ages, but after a big weekend and an afternoon of catching up with the housework sex was the last thing I was in the mood for. I went off to the shower for some peace and hubby snuck in next to me, I was still not in the mood, I gently told him to get out and warm up the bed. I had 5 minutes to myself before I went to bed, still not in the mood I just went with it, and what do you know after a bit of foreplay I was in the mood and whoo hoo, I could make all the noise I wanted. This morning I got coffee in bed and a happy husband.
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This is true for so many of my friends but not me… Rather than turning it off, stress turns it on turbo. The only thing that stops me is if I’m having a fat day but not for long.
My boyfriend is the one with the fragile libido. If I’m sad, I find it comforting whereas he finds it difficult. I love that it distracts me from all the things that are bothering me.
Sometimes I get so sexually frustrated that I could throw a tantrum. Juvenile, I know.
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Oh Im exactly the same! I can get sooooo cranky!
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Me too. I like it for dinner, I like it for tea, a little each day is a good recipe – no that’s an exaggeration, we don’t have sex every day, sometimes, not even every week, but I always enjoy it and I ALWAYS come. Having spoken to my friends at length about this, many of whom would rather clean the toilet than have sex; ‘coming’ seems to be a problem. Therefore it is my belief that every orgasm experienced by a woman, and she can be on her own when this happens, breeds the female libido fairies. I don’t cook, if my husband leaves his socks on the floor I throw them in the bin, and if he doesn’t empty his laundry into the right baskets IN the laundry I don’t wash his clothes, I haven’t ironed since our twins were one (they are eight now), I organise children’s activities around times when only he is available to take them, when I go out, whether it is yoga, a walk or a night out with the girls, I don’t’ make sure anything is done before I go, and many other unwifely things. Mind you, when my husband was travelling extensively for work, I didn’t whinge about it. I don’t feel guilty about any of this. I like sex for sex sake, or to wind down from a big day, or to make sure I sleep well before a big day. I also like quick sex, long sex bores me, I like to get in, come a couple of times and get out, spoon and wake with a smile on my face. Does it get any better than that???? In fact, what am I doing writing about it, when I could be doing it …..
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Thank god! Thought I was the only one!!! sex for sex sake.. but I like long sex, quick sex, actually sex just in general. There is no better high then the high you get from orgasming in my opinion.
Having said that I wasn’t always that way… nine years ago the female libido fairy came to visit and hasn’t left… think she has set up a commune
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Halleluiah sisters!
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I love that I am not the only 1 who doesn’t organise everything before I go out so my husband doesn’t have to do anything. I dont care what he feeds them when I’m not there and I’m not ringing him to make sure he is okay, there his kids too and I didn’t get some parenting manal that he didn’t get!
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No, no, no, no, no! Guys are all a certain way and women are the complete opposite… Geez, get it right.
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Mia, so true. I yearn for just one day when I don’t have to get up to kids in the night while bloke ‘sleeps’! I tell him regularly that he needs to step up more and he agrees, it lasts a night and then I guess he thinks he’s done his duty for the year and life returns to his state of normal. There’s definitely resentment from me, but another major factor in the state of my libido is that I just want my body for me – I’m breast feeding and spend all day with 2 little boys jumping all over me, wonderful but then the last thing I want at night is a big boy doing the same. Peace and space, it’s all I want!
I feel like I’m sounding like such a moaner – and not for sexy reasons! – but it’s Sunday and I’ve been up since 5 watching dora while bloke dreams blissful dreams so my sense of perspective is warped towards poor me
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I think you need to be a bit mean. Next weekend when he sleeps in and you are up at 5, let the kids into your room with him and then go and have a sleep on their bed!
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I can confirm that Dora is not conducive to female libido fairies……
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Bahahahahahaha!!
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I’m feeling a bit mean that I bagged my husband this morning, he is a wonderful guy, just has that whole deaf thing going strong. If I ask him to get up he does willingly, but that’s the rub. I don’t think I should have to ask, we’re in this together, so that’s when the resentment comes in. He also works 12 hour days and I’m at home with the kids so I do think it’s reasonable that I do the lions share of getting up at night as I can have a lie down the next day.
Then again, I wrote on the “things I would tell myself before I had my baby” article that no-one likes a martyr, time I took my own advice!
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Oh Jenny don’t feel guilty! We all understand. Most of us love our husband but we all need to vent at times. That’s what this site is for!
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Thanks Petal!
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How about you get the kids dressed and ready for an outing and as soon as your husband gets up, he can take them for a walk to the park and then for ice cream for two hours or so while you have a lie down and/or some ‘me time’
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Recently, I have come to realise that after 3 years, the sex drive between my partner and I, has grown so fickle that it cannot be ignored.
It seems that the more I chase him and then retract – apologising for imposing my newfound libido – the slimmer my future chances are growing.
We are in our late 20′s, we’ve no children and no real stresses (comparable to those listed in above posts) apart from the pressure that he is under to fulfil the ‘warrior’ stereotype.
I sense this ‘chaser and the chasee’ mentality is responsible for killing his fairies off like the lioness taking down the struggling antelope.
Originally, out of resentment of rejection – I contrived that I would hold out and wait for him. But crossing off the days on the prison walls of abstinence alcatraz was only magnifying my resentment of rejection.
I’ve been tempted to show him this post – but it being a sensitive and highly personal topic, the concept alone of ‘net-venting’ would render him defensive and uncooperative.
I’ve researched to gain an understanding of the effect age has on the the female sex drive and came to feel ashamed of the inconvenience of it all yet feel deserving of some kind of rite of passage from girl to goddess.
Now, to take the pressure off him I merely kiss him for the sake of kissing him, look into his eyes, smile and then get up, walk away humming to find something to keep me busy before i let it come to that awful awkward moment.
Reading these comments has given me a widespread and unbiased perspective for me to face my own dilemma.
Housework is not the currency of sex deeds – but an expression of value for equality which is another form of appreciation of efforts. Because a valued partner is a partner that feels confident and sexy.
‘Fill each others cup but drink not from one cup.
Give one another of your bread but eat not from the same loaf.
Sing and dance together and be joyous, but let each one of you be alone,
Even as the strings of a lute are alone though they quiver with the same music’ – Kahlil Gibran on Marriage
Time for me to go play kiss chasey…
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