by GENEVIEVE LISTON
‘Weatherman Syndrome’ is almost as prevalent as the common cold.
It is the technical term for the curse of the ‘almost good enough’ guy.
I first became aware of this disturbing phenomenon late last year when I was going through one of my self-induced man droughts.
I had decided after dating a series of boys and finding myself discontent with all of them, that I was going to give up for a while. So I took myself out of the game and went on hiatus from men.
One day, over a couple of ciders with a girlfriend, I let slip that I had been going out for breakfast and coffee with my personal trainer. I told her that he was kinda a nice guy and even though he wasn’t really my type, he was kinda cute… so I was thinking about maybe going for dinner with him.
She looked back at me with genuine concern.
“Gen, I’m sorry to have to tell you this,” she said. “But you have what is known as ‘Weatherman Syndrome’. But don’t worry – it’s entirely normal for someone in your situation.”
My situation? What was she on about? And how did she happen upon this diagnosis and what were my symptoms? And if it was so common, how had I never heard of it? Well, apparently it was the overuse of the word ‘kinda’ that led to my diagnosis.
“He’s KINDA funny.”
“He’s KINDA cute.”
And had things progressed, it might have been “Hmmm yeah I guess it’s KINDA a problem that he’s spiking my morning cereal with protein powder…”
She then went onto explain that one lonely night after spending months alone she found herself attracted to none other than the Weatherman. She had watched this same nightly news for years, how could she have possibly missed this? How could she have not noticed how attractive this slightly balding middle-aged man was?! And how totally CUTE that belly he had was!
She turned to her housemate and said, “Is it just me, or is that Weatherman really really sexy?”
At which point her housemate turned off the TV and demanded her undivided attention.
“NO! He is not at all sexy. And neither was the guy you were with last week. And while I’m being honest, I might as well tell you the guy you are going on a date with tomorrow night is the most boring person I have ever met. NONE of these guys are for you.”
And thus, the term ‘Weatherman Syndrome’ was coined.
There are two telltale signs: overuse of the word ‘kinda’ and the phrase ‘is it just me..’ If you find yourself using either of these then the chances are you have a bad case of Weatherman Syndrome.
Because that’s what happens. If you leave yourself out of the game for long enough, all of your so-called ‘deal breakers’ go out the window and it’s almost as if you start looking at potential mates like they are some kind of lunar eclipse. You avert your eyes from seeing what is right in front of you and almost squint in their direction. All of a sudden lame jokes become funny, irritating opinions become cute, the fact they are 35 years old and still live with their parents is totally endearing, right?
And then you find yourself actively living out that line from Missy Higgins‘ song Scar – “A triangle trying to squeeze through a circle’ — you try to cut them so they’ll fit…
Very dangerous behaviour.
So the next time you feel those seemingly harmless words sneaking back into your vocabulary: check yourself. And think twice about if this is really what you want.
Because if not picked up during the early stages, Weatherman Syndrome can get really, really ugly. Trust me. I know.
Genevieve Liston is a twenty something Melbourne based producer. You can find her on Twitter here.
Have you ever dated someone who was only ‘kinda’ right for you? Have you ever had to tell a friend that she was being willfully blind to her partner’s faults? How did it pan out?







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62 Comments so far
Single women of a certain age ( after 35 who are still single ) and have not been in a relationship for many years have to look at the common denominator …. themselves. Obviously you need to make changes . If the last many years have left you single you are doing something wrong. Change yourself for the better..Otherwise be prepared for a life with your cats.
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I think you are making extreme generalisations! Not to mention, they are extremely rude ones at that
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Michelle, women need to stop being so delusional and get real. Maybe you have been single for too long and this could be a wake up call to you. Its not rude, it is simply the truth. Maybe your friends have been sugar coating things for too long. That will get you no where. .. sorry sometimes the truth hurts a little.
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Oh geez- you again! The bitter, cat-hating, woman-hating man. If only your comments weren’t peppered with condescending misogynist tones like “women need to stop being so delusional” (a massive generalisation), you might actually have a few sensible points in there. I can’t hear you for your bitterness, my dear.
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and what would your advice be to the men that are single after 35?????
There’s lots of them, lots of them in front of them in front of their computers each night..
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Single 35 year old men can get 21 year old women. Typically they can go younger and younger. It is more difficult for a woman to get men after a certain age. There is a man drought, a single man has a large pool of women to play with, he can have fun with them, they will pander to him and he does not have to hear the word commitment because he is busy with an array of them, he can go young, his age or older. He has the upper hand. Women are putty in his hand , fighting for his affections.
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Speaking as a 22 year old female I can vouch that there are not many of us that would go for a 35 year old man!
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Mel you will in a few years when the men dry up… You won’t have a choice…
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Life with cats is excellent. Trust us.
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I’m with you buddy. It still amazes me that, as far as females are concerned, everything’s always the fault of men. Females being single means that men are at fault. Not them. Females are perfect and don’t need to do anything. It’s men who need to buck up their act because men should do as they are told to pander to a female. Any man who does not do that and treats females equally as they have been demanding for 50 years is not a REAL man. I note Brisbane scribbler, Kylie Lang, said exactly the same things. First it was men should approach females not females should even do half the approaching and paying etc. Then she reckons that men are not good enough for females. Fine by me. I’ll stay away from Aussie chicks thanks.
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I’m happy as I am thanks, bring on the cats!
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We too have a term for this among my friends.
Instead of Beer googles, we say someone has ‘None Googles’. Where guys look hotter than usual because you’ve had ‘none’.
As in no sex, not no beer.
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Aah, but just because one person thinks someone is the most boring person they have ever met (the room mate) does not mean that Mr Boring’s Ms Right is not out there for him somewhere. Why shouldn’t it be her friend? It’s a bit snobbish of her friend really. I love my best girlfriends, but don’t want to be married to their husbands! My friends love them dearly but are they something I’d pick out for myself? I’m sure they don’t want my husband either – and funnily enough that all works out pretty well!
To each their own!
It all reminds me a bit of Jane Austen’s Emma – her friend, Emma, decides she knows better for her friend Harriet, when her friend has found the man that she loves. Yes in that case Harriet was not using the words ‘kinda’, but she also let herself be talked out of something because it wasn’t what she was ‘supposed’ to like, when just because he wasn’t good enough for Emma doesn’t mean he wasn’t ‘good enough’ and perfect for Harriet!
I think there is pretty much someone (or several people) out there for everyone – it takes all kinds. And there are plenty of people who have dated their ‘type’ over and over to have it always end badly. Think outside what you believe is your type for a bit and you might find out something new and interesting about yourself and possibly even happiness.
I don’t for a second believe that all women are too picky and need to lower their standards to take just anyone, but as another poster below said, we can’t demand perfection unless we are perfect ourselves, and really, who is perfect in this weird and wonderful world? There are plenty of things that my man does that I find really annoying but on balance there are so many more important things that I love about him. He’d probably say the same thing about me! Do I want a Hollywood romance where it is all bells and whistles all the time? Have you noticed how Hollywood romances don’t seem to last? We don’t see Tom Hanks and Meg Ryan ‘sleepless’ 10 years down the track do we? Or doing the day to day stuff? Day to day can be boring! Romance is not all sparks all the time. You just have to make sure there enough ‘sparks’ for you. And if there just aren’t any – well then yep you need to keep looking as you haven’t found the one for you.
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everything you said is sooo true! You have hit the nail on the head. I am one of those ladies who had many bad endings whilst dating “my type” of guys…. brnahced out, took a wild risk, fell in love, hasn’t faded two years later
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*branched
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It’s known amongst men that impressing the girlfriends will better help you getting in with the girl. Decision making is often made by consensus amongst women, even for something as personal as choosing intimate partners.
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Oh but I wouldn’t listen to them! My family members perhaps. But not gfs. Sometimes they actually feel competitive and compete on who marries first and cr@p like that. If I know the guy, love the guy and we are on the same page, then that is it, won’t be talked out of it. At 32 I know what is best for me. Younger women may be different however?
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Haha my hubby IS a weatherman!! (Not middle aged though and has a nice flat tum)
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I love my weatherman hubby – I thought I’d give him a chance “kinda” and years and years later…. we’re kinda right for one another still.
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Ah yes. Just remember girls when you find that 10/10 guy, he’s probably looking for a 10/10 girl and statistically speaking that probably aint gonna be you.
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Hahaha
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6 months ago I went on a first date with a guy who I thought was kinda cute, kinda funny etc, really not expecting much but just hoping that we’d have a pleasant evening. First date turned into a second date, then a third, then a weekend away and I have to say he’s really grown on me. I’m now up for a promotion interstate as is he, and we’re planning to move in together. I suppose what I’m trying to say is that a ‘kinda’ at first can very turn into someone you really connect with, it just might not happen the first time your eyes meet across a crowded room! Give people a chance – they may well surprise you!
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So true! That’s why it’s always worth giving someone a chance eg go on at least three dates with a guy. It takes a while to get to know someone and it’s certainly a wonderful surprise when you realise you’re falling for someone you didn’t think was your type.l
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When I first read the correlation between the ‘almost good enough man’ and the ‘weatherman’ I thought it was because weathermen are the only people who can keep their job when their predictions are ‘almost good enough!’
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I have to second the comment about the Marry Me book. Really gave my 30 year old self a bit of perspective. Once I stopped looking for Mr Right and just went with how I actually feel (rather than what I should feel, considering the guy I was “kinda” into wasn’t tall/fit/achievement orientated enough) I got to see that maybe my weatherman was right for me! Now, couldn’t be happier…
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This seems like a call for the sisterhood to keep their friends unrealistically high standards high even though they would naturally settle to a more reasonable level over time.
If a girl is attracted to a man, who are you to tell her that her man isn’t good enough? Guys would get laughed at if they dared try this crap on each other.
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You’ve just misunderstood the whole article. It’s very obvious she’s not talking about a man that she’s wildly into but is unsure about because he’s not attractive to her friends. She’s talking about men that she’s trying to be into (due to lack of options) but clearly isn’t into (hence the luke-warm descriptions, attempting to rally up her own interest).
It’s not calling for higher standards, it’s just recognising when you’re dating guys who you’re really not into or who aren’t right for you, just because you want to date someone…anyone.
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Alice, I think you explained it really nicely here. I got it!
I think some of the other commenters didn’t quite grasp it the way you did.
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Yes, men would laugh at their friends if they tried this, but be honest. Men will be brutally honest to their mates if they don’t like their girlfriends and not hesitate to let them know how they feel.
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Read Lori Gollieb novel ‘ Marry Him’ and if you are a single woman over 30 you will be persuaded to think differently. We are not perfect so why we are requesting perfection in a man is perplexing. Unfortunately the older we women get, the less choices we have. In our 20′s we can usually pick and choose, once we hit our 30′s we have fierce competition with younger girls. Around 40 are chances of finding even an 6 out of 10 is very limited. As much as I hate to say it, as our fertility declines , we depreciate. Men as a whole are more attracted to fertile women. So the message is get out there, give men chances instead of dismissing them, rip up that long list you must have in a potential partner be open to different people. It only gets harder as you age.
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Story of my life. I find I replace ‘kinda’ with ‘really’ to emphasise strong points, and leave out that I’m kinda uninspired by them. When I hear myself saying, “He’s REALLY nice,” and “He’s SO lovely…” I know it’s because there’s nothing else I can think of that draws him to me.
Except that we both happen to share the same universe.
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So you find a really nice guy and send him packing? A fairly large number of people meet and don’t experience the immediate ‘love at first sight’ experience. But after a few weeks or months they suddenly find they are the right one. Don’t dismiss people straight away because there are no ‘sparks’, I know people who did that and they are now 40 and single.
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Me too … I know way too many single women that dismissed men because there are no sparks and now 40 and beyond are regretful for not giving them a chance .
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Here! Here!
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While lust / looks is not near top of my list, I think you need to have SOME spark. No sparks scares me.
To me, being ‘nice’ or ‘lovely’ means they don’t inspire you to get nude with them – that goes for both genders. It’s kind of a sexless term. A ‘nice’ person, to me, is passionless (even passion for a cause – not just physical passion).
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I had the deliberate hiatus. Sat down and thought hard about what I really wanted from a man and then placed an order with the universe. Sat back, waited, three months later my husband (of 20+ years) walked into my life and never walked out
On the other hand, have a friend who dated and then lived with a total and utter loser (and bastard) and when we met for lunch every week and she would moan about him, I would say DTMFA!! She did eventually but is still alone – she didn’t have high self-esteem to start with and this guy just crushed it. She has gone the other way from Weatherman – now very very picky with inevitable results. Sigh.
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I did the same thing. I wrote my ideal man list and he turned up 3 months later. Ladies, you must read Soulmate Secret and download free recordings. It works.
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My order for a supermodel is in. Now we play the waiting game.
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LOL, love this!!
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I put in my order but the universe just giggled. My partner and I said “You’re not what I ordered, but it turns out you’re what I needed” to each other almost daily for the first year.
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Alot of this rings true for me, when I was younger I kind of “convinved” myself that certain guys were definitely serious boyfrined material, only a few months in to realise that no, they most certainly weren’t. What a mess of emotion that caused, and guilt on my part as well.
From the other perspective though, now I am about to celebrate my two years with my current boyfriend (not that long, but long for me okay!) and I know that without a doubt I would be happy spending the rest of my life with him. The thing is, we knew each other for years before we started dating, and there initially was minimal attraction there, on my part. I know he thought I was hot and all that back then, but aside from casual flirting and polite friendship, there was never any nervous meet-ups or romantic maybe-moments….
This is mainly because I was telling myself that although he was nice, he was not “my type”.. he is, for a start, five years younger than me! And also short, different family styles and upbringing, etc. I am not saying that everything was against the odds but he certainly isn’t what I pictured to be lifelong-partner material haha.
Fast forward a few years and as friends we went to the movies together, lame flirting and silly jokes turned into small sparks, and the more we spoke and got to actually know each other, the more the feelings grew, and the rest is history…
My point is, I had made and recognised so many weatherman syndrome mistakes in my past, that when I thought I had found another weatherman, I overlooked him, when really I was lucky enough to eventualy discover that he was a keeper. I think alot of it is to do with gut instinct, and following your heart, as cheesey as it sounds.
And for the record, sometimes weathermen can teach us alot about ourselves and what we really want or need in a partner, as well.. and some weathermen can be your best friends
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There is no Mr Perfect, you just have to find someone who’s imperfections you don’t mind.
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I kinda have the opposite problem! I am with a gorgeous, funny and affectionate man who I do really think is the one for me.
But with the last boyfriend (read: total freaking loser) I was self-esteem compromised and to be honest, a little desperate. So I ignored allllll the very many red flags and deal-breakers and now I just can’t believe what I put up with.
Fast forward to now with my perfect-for-me man, I over-think everything because I don’t want to make the mistake of letting everything slide again! So I’m overcompensating and wondering all the time; “is this a deal-breaker? Is this?”, catastrophising (a real word? It is now) over things that really aren’t that bad.
I need to stop sabotaging myself!
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Catastrophising is a word. It comes up a lot when you are, or are working with, someone who deals with depression and anxiety.
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Try to keep reminding yourself, “I’m not in that relationship any more so this way of thinking is irrelevant and unnecessary.” It took me a couple of years to stop myself jumping to conclusions with my completely honest partner, after my ex who was acheater and left me for another woman.
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I think sometimes women spend so long looking for Mr Perfect that they don’t see Mr Right. Is your case really Weatherman syndrome, or might you have been slightly distracted from a search for a man who ticks all the boxes, and seen a man who might be right for you?
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I’d be more inclined to think “what if?” about never giving the personal trainer a chance. One dinner date – what could it have hurt?
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I’m completely against settling into a relationship if it feels wrong, but at the same time I think there are times when you have to get to know a person to tell whether or not they are Weatherman or Anchorman material (to go with the theme here).
If you think a guy is kinda cute or kinda nice, maybe all it will take is a few dates to find out if they are really cute and really nice. Maybe it’s romantic of me, but all I can think is that if you never try you’ll never know.
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Are you implying that Ron Burgundy is the ideal man?
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Well Jedielf, who could resist that moustache?
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Couldn’t agree more. I persevered – and i use that word intentionally – with a man i wasn’t really interested in at all (he smelled funny, his laugh was annoying, it took effort to think of conversation etc) because he seemed interested and i thought he was really nice so what could hurt. It’s hard getting to know people. Anyway, fast forward, i LOVE HIM, i can’t live without him! Now i get paranoid he is persevering with me!!! I love his laugh now, and his smell (melts). Sometimes you really do need to give things time…
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Thanks for sharing your experience Eva. I’m persevering at the moment and it’s lovely to hear that it worked out so well for you xo
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The first guy I ever loved (as a teenager) really p’d me off when we first met and knew each other. We actually disliked each other. After time in the same circle, getting to know each other, even reluctantly – we fell head over heels in love, joined at the hip – utterly adored each other. If you’d told me that at the beginning when I first met him… I’d have thought you were C R A Z Y ! Sometimes life surprises you. Be open to possibilities.
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My husband tells me about a wedding he went to before we met where the groom or maybe it was the bride said, “You may not be perfect but you’re perfect for me”. Not the most romantic declaration but true words to live by I guess. No-one is perfect but I reckon when you enjoy the time you spend together and don’t need to over-analyse a person or how you feel about them, then you’re on to a winner. Your gut knows this, you just gotta listen.
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My husband and I often say that to each other. To me, it’s actually really romantic because he’s saying he’ll love me even when I’m crazy, and I’ll love him even though he never, ever unloads the dishwasher. Ain’t love grand?!
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I’m sorry, but everyone has faults. So everyone is “kinda” something. Are you perfect? I didn’t think so. If my partner said that he should not date me because I’m only kinda organised, for example, I would be really hurt. Embracing faults and forgiving a little belly in favour of all the good things is what relationships are about.
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I think what this is trying to say is when you are really keen to have a partner you may go out with people who are unsuitable for you and ignoring the things that really matter to you. I know so many people who do this, the biggest one I’ve noticed lately is anti-smokers hooking up with smokers and then spending ages bitching at them.
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My impression is that the “kinda” business is the strongest positive thing she has to say about the guy. Your husband may say you’re “kinda organised”, but he also may say that you’re amazingly nice/kind/loving/hawt/etc.
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I think you’re misunderstanding what she’s saying.
Gen’s “kindas” are referring to comments that indicated that you’re not really into them. When you’re crazy about someone you don’t care that they’re only “kinda” funny, because you think they’re SOOOOOO fascinating (for example). If the best descriptions you can muster is that he’s kinda cute, seems nice, kinda interesting, etc, then you’re obviously not that into him. See what I mean?
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I agree Alice. It is possible to meet a guy who matches your outlook on life, shares the same values, sense of humour, and who you are passionately attracted to, and I don’t believe that you should comprimise on that. If you are going to be with them for life, these things have to match otherwise it won’t work. I had a hiatus from dating after a string of ‘playboys’ too, and then out of the blue I met my hubby, when I wasn’t even looking. He approached me directly at my local and bought me a drink! It can happen!! xx
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That’s lovely to hear Tess!
I’ve got a whole range of weathermen under my belt so looking forward to the right one coming along whenever he’s ready. In the meantime I’m still having a lot of fun with the weathermen!
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While we wait to meet the hubby, we might enjoy checking out weatherman’s barometer! And he may enjoy that too.
He may even start to give more accurate predictions on the forecast. (what does that even mean?!)
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