“I love vegetarian and vegan food. And steak.”
Her dating profile was hardly a work of art. I mean, it wasn’t going to be stored in the Louvre and protected with motion-sensitive lasers. It was rudimentary and bizarrely thought out, like Sex and the City 2 or the platypus.
This is the problem with online dating. By its very nature you have to put yourself out there before you, you know, put yourself out there. It’s like a casting call for the world’s most finicky director.
We were sitting in the pub critiquing the women who had responded to my friend’s dating profile. There was a lot of snorting and ‘why on Earth would you say that’.
You may well be an expert practitioner of the Colombian pan flute, but there’s a lot to be said for keeping some of the mystique in tact.
There’s a difference between saying you’re ‘quirky’ and giving explicit details of your miniature frog collection.
Here’s the thing. Dating profiles are basically your resume. Just like you wouldn’t include any naff party tricks (like the ability to make a three-tubbed bath using your tongue) on your actual CV, you wouldn’t include date-inhibiting information on your romance profile. Would you?
As an expert (albeit casual) reader of other people’s dating profiles, I’ve helpfully compiled a list of 5 dating profile mistakes you should avoid.
1. Cliches.
Somewhere in the very distant past a person once existed who truly was breaking new ground when he or she said they enjoyed ‘long walks on the beach’ in response to a probing question about their favourite activities. That person is not you. More to the point, if you spot someone who clearly thinks they are using it ironically then you should spend hours of your own time fund-raising to produce a Community Service Announcement that warns people to stay away from this person.
2. Obvious statements.
On a very broad level, everyone’s answer to ‘what do you enjoy doing’ is definitely ‘fun stuff’ but if you write that as your answer on a dating profile then you’re displaying less imagination than your average housing brick (which are not themselves known for having imaginations). Same goes for bland statements like ‘I like movies’ or ‘I like reading’. Provide examples or we’ll assume you copied your answers off rollergurl9289.
3. Lies.
Look, we shouldn’t have to say this one. You don’t have to tell the world you collect toe fungus in specimen jars if you don’t want to (though there’s a lot to be said for being upfront about it) but you definitely shouldn’t make claims you can’t back up in real life. If you say you’re an astronaut, bring a moon rock to the first date. If you say you’ve read all the classics, don’t assume JD Salinger’s seminal work was about a baseball catcher hanging out in the rye.
4. Inaccurate photos.
If you’re 50, don’t include a photo from your high school yearbook on your dating profile. Please refer to point 3, also known as: lies. It’s OK to be 50. And it’s OK to be 18. But there’s nought to be gained from using images that were taken before the Internet was invented.
5. Unwieldy prose, or sentences.
Somewhere out there in the dense fog of single-dom, two people are updating their profiles with sentences like ‘I like huggggggggggs!!!!!!!’ and waiting patiently for replies. They are never likely to meet. It’s far more likely your prospective partner will see significant abuses suffered by the English language and wonder whether you typed the profile yourself or enlisted a team of well-trained but ultimately disappointing marmosets.
What would you put on your dating profile? What do you think people should avoid?







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Back when I put my single self on RSVP in 2000, the #1 guy was a university lecturer in marketing, his profile was lame, so much for his marketing skills. He also set up a fake “saucy” female profile and was able to warn me which guys responding to my genuine profile were hitting on his fake one. I did meet someone ( a non-responder to the fake), we’ve been together 12 years this month. Our interest in each other was sparked by a cleverly divulged mutual love of late 70s British post punk music.
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I actually miss internet dating. The minefield of poorly written profiles that all sound the same amused me for hours.
The one cliché I loved was, “I have a good sense of humour.” Really? Have you ever heard anyone claim that the have a poor sense of humour but make up for it by being really nice?
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Several years ago I was on RSVP for about a year, and the most annoying comments for me were: “looking for my soul mate”; “I love cuddles” (code for I love sex I learned); “GSOH” and other abbreviations of cliches; and poor spelling (sorry, it just is a real turn off for me). And of course, the photos were very rarely close to the real thing. One guy on the phone asked me what my “dimensions” were (how big are my boobs). The last guy I met before finally removing my profile, asked so many specific quesitons it made me feel like I was in a job interview. He even asked me what my health was like. In the end I was expecting him to ask if he could inspect my teeth! Then he spilled red wine all over us both while trying to open the bottle. So glad I’m not in that game any longer.
Edited to add the guy who said he had no kids, then admitted he had FIVE! They all lived with their respective mothers. *sigh*
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I met my boyfriend of two and a half years on RSVP. We live together now and we are so happy. I think it’s easy to get disillusioned with online dating. Of course 98% of them are going to be wrong for you. You don’t walk down the street and find you’d be happy to date every male in your age range, do you? Of course not.
My boyfriend was lucky- he sent two e-mails, went on two dates and I was the second one. I was on and off it for about two and a half years before we met.
You have to persist and try not to get too jaded. Meet people quickly and don’t e-mail for too long because you build up the fantasy too much and they inevitably are disappointing in comparison.
But it is worth it- three of my friends are also dating people they met online and my aunt just married someone she met on RSVP.
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I met my wife on an online dating site in 2007. Online dating sites are a big scam. They advertise DATING but one thing lead to another and now we are married. I didn’t sign up for that…
Anyway, it was an interesting experience doing the whole online dating thing.
I am a non-smoker. I only dated or talked to girls who said non-smoker. Not casual smoker or social smoker, only non-smokers. So I was out on a date with another girl. I had bought the first 3 rounds of drinks. She said that she was going to get the 4th round. When she came back with our drinks she also had a cigarette in her mouth.
I reminded her that she said she was a non-smoker. She said that she only smokes when she drinks (social smoking) or when she was nervous. So I asked her whether she was nervous now or just being social (but didn’t stick around for her answer).
Another girl was awesome; very attractive (I was punching well above my weight) and very intelligent and a Grammar Nazi and as anally retentive as me. We went on a date. She told me during dinner that she has a horse. The horse is her main priority in life and she will spend 2 hours everyday with the horse. She said whomever she ends up with must appreciate her relationship with her horse. All I could thing was “on your horse missy….”
I met a girl who seemed to be a great match for me. She also lived in the same suburb as me. We “talked” on a chat site for a few nights leading up to the coming weekend. We were going to meet but it was me who pulled the plug when too many errors, inconsistencies, and not lies, but stretched truths appeared.
I am a musician and really love music so it is something I like to talk about. She hadn’t really mentioned her musical tastes so I asked the question starting with who her favourite band was. She replied with Sneaker Sound System. Not Sneaky, but Sneaker… Her favourite band and she’s got the name wrong. So I asked which was her favourite SSS song? “I don’t know the names of the songs but the one where the X does Y in the film clip…” Yeah, no….
One observation that I made in relation to musical tastes; so many of the female type specify that they like “everything except Heavy Metal, Country, Classical Music and Opera.”
I guess that I could have dated any of these girls as long as I hid my CD collection (except for my copy of Jagged Little Pill which I believe is compulsory in every household).
Anyway, what I learned from the whole experience is that you will never find your “perfect match.” The whole thing seems to be inhabited by people (guys and girls) who are too picky or not worthy.
My wife and I do not agree on everything, we wouldn’t have a 100% match if we did eHarmony, but I can tell you this; the thing we have most in common in our life right now is the love of our two boys.
Oh, and chocolate……
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Thanks for this story. I loved the way it ended too. Good luck to both of you.
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I recently signed up to a dating site. Within an hour of browsing profiles I deleted mine. I found all the males I looked at either
A) TyPeD LiK DiS CoMpLeTe WiTh BoGaN SpElLiNg or
B) everybody’s hobby was ‘body building’
I came to the conclusion that Melbourne is full of massive douchbags and I’d rather be single
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Is there any bigger turn-off than poor spelling?
My profile is clearly bland because it doesn’t get much attention. But I’m sure as hell not going to post a link here
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Why not? There is a pretty large pool of women here you could direct to your profile:)
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… hm… what does a good dating profile look like?
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I’ve just deleted my profile from an online dating site; it turned out to be more of a hook-up site than relationship-oriented. The responses I got were baffling! I’m 34 and looking for a long-term relationship with a man (very) approximately the same age, but about half the responses I got were from youngsters looking for casual sex. Prossies, i assume. ‘Do you want a man with big hands to dominate you in the bedroom?’ um, no, lasttruegentleman69, did you not read my profile? Delete!
The other strange thing: I am fat (not BBW fat, but nonetheless…), and I said in my profile that my body type is heavy (or whatever euphemism they had), and I was careful to include a full-body shot in my pics, so why reply to me with some variation of ‘looking for a fit girl who takes care of her appearance”. Sure I like walking, but you mean thin, right? Why are you messaging me?
I got a lot of ‘your profile is really honest’ too. No other comments, no indication of interest, just ‘honest’. I’m not sure if that means it was a good profile or not
I did get a couple of nice dates out of it though, so not a total waste
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Loved this Rick! You may have just given me the little push I needed to get myself out there. Writing your dating profile is so daunting!
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Nice for the posters underneath to be getting so much action online.
Myself and my friends get crickets and white noise – we’re all over 45. You should see the calibre of bloke out there in my category 45-55 – it’s beyond belief. A few examples:
(a) One guy said his idea of a good night out was ‘the meat raffles at the pub’. Yep, that’ll win me every time…..
(b) Every second over 45 year old is photographed with three things – a fish, a motorbike and a beer gut. I just want to see your face, okay?
(c) They bang on about how they want to meet ‘my ideal lady’. See, here’s the thing – she doesn’t exist. Is that why you’re divorced? And as for the ‘lady’ thing…. that word, to me, is like ‘panties’. Yeeeech.
(d) Books??? What are they? If they do read, it’s Stephen King. No thanks.
(e) Politics?? Those who say ‘they’re all dickheads’ are probably one too
(f) Jimmy Barnes lover? Goodbye!
Yep, it’s slim pickings out there. Think I’ll just stay single.
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Re: lies I once met up with a guy who’s profile said non-smoker….. I have never, ever seen someone chain smoke the way he did through our date. I asked him about it and he said more girls liked non-smokers, which is why he wrote that….ahhh, I think they’ll figure it out within five minutes of meeting you buddy!
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Oh dear, Rick, I just love love love your writing.
But it makes me feel inadequate. I can’t think of a single thing to put in a comment as I can’t match your wit and style.
Sigh.
But I am pretty sure the platypus thinks he’s quite a handsome creature…
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I am actually terribly fond of the platypus. But it IS a bit weird. Like me!
(And thank you).
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I’ve written and read thousands of dating profiles in my job and ‘easygoing’ and ‘down to earth’ are the 2 most overused ways people with no imagination (or self-awareness) describe themselves. It means absolutely nothing and is a space filler we use when we have nothing else to say.
Warning: people who describe themselves as such, generally aren’t.
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My internet dating experience chapter 1.
Tips for men:
When choosing a username, “rod-of-destiny” may not be as appealing to the laaaadies as you had first imagined.
Relationship is never referred to, in any language, as “ralashanship”. Especially if English is your first language.
If your profile opens with complaints about how other site-users ‘reject you without giving you a chance’, you will have girls nodding in agreement within seconds.
*Begging* and pleading people ‘not to judge a book by its cover’, will not appeal to those who judge books by their covers. These people are usually in-tune with the human instinctual ability of judging based on looks – for the prevention of death by weirdo.
If you have to state that the girl you’re looking for “doesn’t have to be a supermodel”, you are alluding to the fact that you actually have that option, but have simply chosen to make an exception in order to broaden your search.
I love it when guys unceremoniously insult their own gender: “the last gentleman on earth”, or “I’m not like every other guy on here”, or “one of the few genuine guys you’ll find on here”. You’re not doing your fellow-single-brothers any favours by trying to make them all look like chauvinistic pigs.
Number one spelling error across entire site. The word “and” has a definite third letter to it. The time you save by omitting this letter is not directly proportionate to the thousands of women who will assume you either cannot spell or are lazy, and refuse to talk to you on that basis.
Why do you have to state how ‘gentlemanly’ you are? Humility is one of the biggest attributes of a gentleman. Us women have been considerate and selfless in our relationships since the dawn of time yet we don’t carry on about how caring and nurturing we are within the first sentence!
Consider the getup you are wearing in your profile shot. If you are dressed as a pirate, expect the worst, and cease all complaints.
“Like spending time with FAIMLY and FIENDS”. I don’t know those two characters, but they sound like fun!
Definitions:
contradiction = “there is too many shallow girls out there. hello i am 27 own my own car and my own house and own business.”
Translations:
“Extremely loyal” = will cling to you like toilet paper to a stiletto
“Love being free” = recently incarcerated
“Muma’s boi” = Mum, and possibly dad, were illiterate
“lay’d back” = so laid back in fact, that I create my own words to avoid sitting up to think
“I am quite ambisous and are getting somewhere in life” = I’m sorry, what?
“I have a heart of gold” = I own seven dogs and they all sleep in my bed
Winning opening profile lines:
“Recently closed my account because of personal problems but I am back again…..”
“I would never expect my partner to feel uncomfortable regardless of what my interests are.”
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haha very funny!
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I love it!!
Are you writing a blog? I wish I could share this on my Facebook!
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Really? Ok I’ll upload it to a blog site and paste the link if you like.
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I second that! I loved reading this comment.
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Applause. This was better than the post!
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Wow thanks…although everyone knows the law of physics dictates that a comment can never exceed the standard set by the original post (just like you can’t travel back in time because you’d have to go faster than the speed of light), if you’re serious then I might just try my hand at this writing thing! Yours was so entertaining Rick, you have inspired me.
I will somehow establish my first weblog this weekend.
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leiah2006, I loved your comment as well but your name reminded me of something that struck me when I was online dating a few years back.
Understandingly, since the days of personalised number plates, online nicknames, personal email addresses and the like, people have become obsessed or drawn to using the year of their birth as the random numbers that you are (sometimes) required to use.
Sometimes, if you have a popular name you might not be the only Sarah born in 1977 so you might like to (and I believe this to be completely random in the pejorative sense) use your current age; hence Sarah28 is born.
And here is what I discovered based on the names that some of the girls created using this type of nickname; they must have been on the site for quite a while because Sarah28 was actually 31 according to her profile.
And it wasn’t just Sarah28; Anna31 was 33, lookingforlove30 was also 33 and lonelygirl29 was 30 (but I expect 5 years on is still lonelygirl29 but now 35).
I am looking forward to your reading your blog. I have many online dating experiences to report myself, but I won’t take up your thread with that….
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yep that about sums up every profile I have read.
Can I also add that if you write ‘ready for a relationship’ it MEANS what it says, not a one night stand, on some level there must be something in common and when you make contact please don’t just say Hi, start a conversation.
oh and when you say you have taken up Buddhism, I will read recovering some some addiction and this sounds better than AA.
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Having just started the online dating debacle, ordeal, adventure or whatever you want to call it, a few things have occurred to me:
How come we have an obesity problem with all these people enjoying their long walks on the beach?
In the short time I’ve been looking online, I would be a fabulously rich woman if I had a dollar for every time I read the “I love spoiling my lady” line.
The only sensible reply to the numerous men half my age who send the message “do you do younger men” is “occasionally, when I can’t be bothered going to the shops, at about 200C, turn once during baking”.
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I believe the ‘spoiling my lady’ actually means ‘spoiling her optimism of ever meeting anybody normal, rational or baggage free ever again…’
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Also, unscripted video dating introductions are also a bad idea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP4NMoJcFd4&list=UUNYrK4tc5i1-eL8TXesH2pg&index=9&feature=plcp
(Has been altered by the schmoyoho guys, of course.
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I haven’t the foggiest idea how I’d describe myself these days, but I sure as hell know that I would keep it mild on the ‘I wuv my pussy cats’ front. I had a friend who used up half of a perfectly good dating profile to crap on about her cats and mentioned them on her answering machine message. We had to stage a cat intervention… I get that she loves her cats dearly, but a lot of men are just going to back away from that sort of obsessive devotion.
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I found your comment hilarious Free !!!
‘crap on about her cats’ – i cant stop laughing !!
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Rats … I can see my team of well-trained but ultimately disappointing marmosets will continue to wait for your call, Rick …
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I’m calling!
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Back when I was owning RSVP in 2004 (my ex and I both got to number 1 due to the number of kisses and replies – haha har!) I would read profiles and wish I could correct and coach them – but then I realised that if someone reads a profile they should get what was advertised, not a polished er… turd.
I specifically asked that men who didn’t read books not apply – but they didn’t read that – or anything else usually after they saw a photo.Sad.
I went on a few dates but nothing special.
Meanwhile my ex went on dates and every woman wanted to sleep with him on the first night – he was looking for long term so they
never got called again…
One memorable date the guy lunged across the table to kiss me (turned cheek) before we’d even ordered. He did it again later outside the bathrooms. Later apologising – to which I said “for accosting me outside the toilet?!”
But he just had no idea how to interpret signals (misinterpreting distance and polite smile for a “come get me” allure…
Leaves me feeling like the Internet dating world is more miss than hit than a bar – a lot of the guys are still just looking for sex, pretending they want more in their profiles, or are damaged or dellusional.
There are so many great people, no doubt, but the sorting through them to finally meet and there’s no spark? Sad face.
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I would add some less key ones to Rick’s great list:
- Don’t define yourself by your profession:. I get lots of messages from guys who say ‘I’m a lawyer’ and….well that’s about it. This has happened several times, always lawyers. You work as lawyer, you ARE a person. Fine to write ‘I’m a professional/tradie/creative’ but be more than what you do for work.
- Don’t be aggressive: I read profiles that say things like ‘no time wasters ok? I’m sick of it’, ‘Is anyone genuine on here??’ or ‘I’m married and if this bothers you go and take your judgement somewhere else’. Ease up people. Also don’t shout, ever.
- Photos with other people in them: I actually have seen photos of what is clearly a guy’s ex. A real couple-like photo. I don’t think your friends or ex wants their photo up on a dating site.
Online dating can be lots of fun and there are some good guys out there, you just have to filter. I met my boyfriend online!
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Totally! And don’t be a negative drainer – if you’re already whinging and making excuses for yourself/your life on line, how hopeless and negative will you be in real life?
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I am a (female) lawyer. Unfortunately if you are a lawyer, you tend not to have much of a life outside of work. So men saying that they are a lawyer as if that’s their entire identity does not surprise me at all – it probably is! We are a bit of a strange bunch…
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The names they give themselves also amuse me no end. Spotted one earlier who called himself ‘stud’ something and I nearly wet my pants. Anything to do with ‘boy’, ‘boi’, ‘sexy’, ‘hot’ or ‘horny’ makes my soul hurl in my mouth just a little….
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Dear Rick,
In a completely non-stalkery way, could you please do me a little favour? Pluck a couple of hairs (from the root) from that adorable noggin of yours, pop them in an envelope, and mail them to me.
In the meantime, I will continue working on my super awesome DNA combining machine so when our postman delivers said envelope, I can somehow smoosh that wonderful wordy DNA into mine.
Your turn of phrase is just gorgeous and you really do have a gift. As an aspiring writer I’m half in awe, half bunny boiling jealous.
Hurry up and write that book (I’d be happy to beta-read for you!) – there are a zillion fans who want to read more!
Yours in affectionate envy, Shaezy
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I wish all the comments I read as I was settling in for bed were as nice as yours! This might be my favourite ever and definitely not because you said nice things. No siree. It’s for your clearly passionate dedication to DNA science.
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Oh, I’m all about the chromosomes and the helix thingies and the… the other sciency stuff. Yep, they’ll be calling me to collect my Nobel Prize in Science any day now. (Although if it all goes pear shaped, it might be a Darwin Award instead. That’s ok. More people read about them anyway.)
Glad you liked my mushy love, and it can be your favourite until the next best one. Now stop procrastinating and WRITE A BLARDY BOOK!
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Oh dear, Rick, I know I can safely speak for many others when I say “we love you!” <3 xx
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ooooh. I have a bit of a list. Not that I’m claiming “expert online dater” status, but I did meet my lovely husband on an online dating site….
1. Find a good profile name. My favorite one (that I gave to a girlfriend of mine – drat) is Tequillamockingbird. Put a bit of effort into being interesting or funny if you can.
2. Use a nice photo, but not the best photo ever taken of you. Set expectation of what you look like at realistic, achievable levels. Unless of course you are Barney Stinson from HIMYM
3. Leading from the point above, I avoided men that had soft focus photos, or showed them a) without their shirts (my interest is more than skin deep) or b) draped over their pride and joy (motorbike or car) I just found that a bit creepy.
4. My big thing was going to the reading section. Newspapers were ok, but if that was all – if they couldn’t list any favourite books, then I knew they weren’t for me.
5. There is nothing wrong with sending someone a “kiss”, but if they respond, cough up for a stamp. Be polite. If the shoe was on the other foot, you’d expect them to do the same – wouldn’t you?
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You win the advice! Yes to all of this. If I had a profile (sorry hordes of men, I know, I know) it would probably be ‘attainablerick’ or ‘seriouslydontbeallhighexpectationsaboutthis’.
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I totally read those names and got confused. I was like “What’s a blerick and why would you wish to attain one?” (I’ve since worked it out and feel more than a little bit foolish.)
xx
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I did too!!! Attain a blerick! Ha ha!
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Think I may up my obtuse factor today and use ‘Attain a blerick’ as my status.
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Despite reading the below comments, my experience of online dating have been all positive. I am new to it I guess, but the 3 guys I have met have all been lovely, genuine people. I am lucky enough to have made a strong connection with one of them which seems to have real potential to develop into a beautiful relationship… so just wanted to say that it online dating CAN be a great experience..
Like several people below I am very selective of who I reply to. I have only responded to a small fraction of men who have contacted me. It’s important to analyse the profiles and I think you pretty quickly get a sense of who would be a compatible match…
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My husband was my second “date” from an online dating site, but I emailed/chatted with quite a few nice guys before meeting him.
So it worked for me! I also have a couple of friends who met their spouses the same way too. There ARE good news stories out there
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My boyfriend was my second date on Internet dating too!
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I too found my husband online as well. We had both been there a while and kept looking at each other’s profile when finally he said hi, we were both unclaimed treasures.
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It’s great to hear the good stories!! The guy I am seeing is just lovely, and even though its early days (we are up t the 4th date but lots of phone calls and texts most days) its really encouraging to hear the ‘success’ stories!
I also have several friends who are now in long term relationships from internet dating, including my sister who met her partner on the one and only online date that she had….they have been together for over 3 years and are perfect for each other.
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I had an online dating profile for a while, but being honest about my bisexuality attracted a plethora of couples looking for a ‘bit of spice’ in their relationship. Ummmm…. nowhere did I say I wanted to be the third wheel in your marriage!
I ended up creating two separate profiles. One for guys and one for girls. A much better approach, and I met the most amazing partner.
Currently living happily ever after <3
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I’ll start by saying I’ve read this advice on MM but also have seen the negative outcomes of this in my own work with children at risk.
Don’t include that you have young children as part of your profile as this can attract a certain type of unwanted predator, someone seeking contact with children. I’m not saying don’t disclose this but maybe wait to see if you can trust someone with that info.
I don’t want to scare people but it’s worth being aware of this because I’ve seen it happen. The piece MM ran on the topic a little while ago had some really practical advice on how to manage this issue.
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Very sound advice. I did the interview for that one: http://www.mamamia.com.au/news/online-dating-mums-targeted-by-child-sex-offenders-an-horrific-case/
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Thanks Rick. I’m Glad you added that because I didn’t know how.
Due to the aftermath I’ve seen in my work of predators targeting single mothers to get acces to their children, I really appreciate you guys running this story in the first place. I love the mix of serious and fun you guys have on this site. I’m a huge fan!
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On the opposite side of the coin you can get men to spend a lot of money contacting you who politely aren’t interested in dating single mothers if you don’t mention your children up front.
You don’t have to mention their ages or put up photos with them, but I would be upset if I spent money to contact someone who then sprang her kids on me. Just some food for thought.
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I totally hear what your saying and I got that women expect men to do all the spending on those sites, which is why I said young children. I get the some men either have raised children or are not keen on having then, both of which is okay, and then you’d be very upset or feel you’d been lied to when someone does not disclose that they have children. Dating, especially via oline dating, seems like such a mind field.
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Correction – he sent me a request and his profile said those things – not the message/request.
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I had an online dating profile last year and I found myself immediately put off by men that start their profile with something along the lines of “Why do so many girls reject me?” or something similar followed by “give me a chance you don’t know me”. This will not make most women want to contact you. In fact it sounds desperate and that sadly won’t help your chances I think. I also had man send me a message that stated that being 90kg was not slim and that he wasn’t interested in “ethnics”, Russian women, Asian women and women over a certain age (because how could he introduce an older woman in a wheelchair with an oxygen tank to his parents – not kidding – he ACTUALLY said those things). You can guess what I did to that request. Yep REJECTED. Please actually think and actually examine people’s profile before you send a request to them. Use your logic and think whether this person might be compatible with you at least in a basic sense, otherwise it just wastes everyone’s time.
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I understand your disgust at needy men. Can I just say that most men have something less than a 5% success rate on sending out kisses. Unless you’re a sociopath that level of rejection is bound to have some sort of effect on you.
I’m not saying that gives guys a reason to whinge at women who reject them, but I’m just trying to build awareness of what young men go through on internet dating sites.
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where is the like button !!!…!!????!!! lol
sorry…. made me laugh so much and the comments.
My dating profile is brief, ambiguous and photo is from a distance.
How guys translate it, tells me so much about them, how they think and other sundry bits and pieces.
And dont do it with out your self esteem intact- online dating will tear you to shreds. Everyone’s a critic- including me- I dont see that side of myself in the real world….I am harsher incognito.
hmmmm – just a thought
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I recently set up an online dating profile and the amount of men lying about their age is truly disheartening. I thought only women did that but no, the men are really into it and it’s so obvious they’re older when you look at their pics or meet them for the first time. Just be honest guys!
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Love this!
I get turned off pretty quickly by the poor spelling or the first descriptive sentence being “Don’t tell me you’re not my type. You don’t know me!” Way to make yourself approachable…request deleted..
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Except they wrote “your” instead of you’re.
Bye! Haha
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Haha that’s so true! I just couldn’t bring myself to type it that way. I think my brain would explode! It’s one of my pet hates.
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Oh, Rick. This is excellent: the perfect balance of wisdom and humour. I’ve never ventured onto an online dating site, but I feel that honesty and originality always rule. Never forget that there are real people behind the pixels with feelings and values and hopes and lives.
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Thanks! And yes, I don’t understand why anyone would lie? You have to meet them eventually.
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I have an internet dating profile. As a general rule, I reject anyone who doesn’t seem serious or genuine. You can usually spot them because they don’t fill out much in their profile. Some guys just have some kind of cliche headline, a few sentences about how they like pretty much everything (and I’m guessing everyone!) and a photo, usually without their shirt on!
Also, spelling mistakes, guys who say “I’m over the clubbing scene” (makes me think they are party types who have slept around a lot – even if it’s true, keep it to yourself) and people who clearly haven’t read my profile (e.g. they are 10 years older than my age limit) are always rejected by me.
Love online dating though! There are some great people out there who you could have a lot in common with but would never have met online. And it’s always good for a laugh…
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I agree AJ! I’m new to it but loving it already
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Good luck ladies, I met my husband on-line
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Bahaha love this article rick!
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Oh god, I read one who mentioned IN HIS PROFILE that he’d lost his virginity to a Thai hooker. Oh – how nice for both of you!!
Recently someone who went to prep with my little sister contacted my mum online asking if she “would be interested in taking a lover the age of your offer. I suggest you consider this offer very seriously, as it could be the opportunity of a life time. We can also have a relationship if you want – but let’s not get ahead of ourselves. C’est le vie, mon cherie” – A THOUSAND VOMITS!
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Priceless!
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Whoops – that was supposed to be “the age of your daughter”. Didn’t make sense!
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I have online dating profiles. I receive many, many expressions of interest in them; all of which I have recently had automatically sent to my spam folder. Why? (Other than the prosaic reason that a couple of sites offer no method of deactivating my account.) The lies. The lies that are so outrageous that to label them as mere lies is almost itself an untrue statement because of the enormity of the lies being attempted. The respondents to my profile (back when I bothered checking) fell into two categories. Either I was attracting under 25′s who tended to have movie star good looks – and I am humble enough to realize the odds of this being routine are slender – or I was attracting gents aged about 50 who had lived such a life of dissipation that they had all aged prematurely to the point where they looked closer to 80 years old. Again, the consistency of people with the same problem became a little suspicious. So I don’t even look anymore to see who’s interested. Why bother, when all I am finding out is how many liars out there think I am stupid enough to be duped so easily? Yes, I might be missing out on meeting my ideal match, but it’s a risk I can live with. With my track record in these matters, he will probably tell me he’s ‘only’ 50 (I’m early 30′s, btw) and the movie star he will resemble will be the one who played Gandalf the Wizard.
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Hey, gandalf is probably a catch…..you know with the magic staff and all that.
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I see what you did there!
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Initially completely unintential…initially.
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And if Gandalf listed his age as 489, or whatever J R R Tolkien said it was, I would be much less likely to immediately write him off. And his staff would have a greater chance to do some magic. ;P
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I can understand your cynicism. I met my husband online though so it isn’t totally a lost cause
My husband had an 8 year old photo (of himself) on his profile and I had a recent one and we still managed to hook up LOL. His interests were so opposite to mine I actually thought that “I have nothing in common with this guy” but he intrigued me and I am so glad I answered his first message.
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Funnily enough, I met my husband online too. We are celebrating our third year of divorce this September. I think I’ve been as open minded about the process as I’m going to be. Glad it’s working out more happily for you, however.
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I am new to internet dating, and let me tell you, it is almost like a full time job, especially at first when you are ‘fresh bait’.
My rules are –
1. I don’t send out kisses, I only receive them (protecting my ego!)
2. I don’t pay for contact – they can! (And they do if they want to talk to you bad enough)
3. Their introduction on their profile needs to be written in proper English, with proper grammar, spelling and punctuation, and be at least two paragraphs long
4. They must have a photograph. MUST.
5. They must not have photographs taken specifically of their muscular bodies – i.e. posed shots of just their back or just their chest. Someone who loves themselves that much cannot possibly have any left over for me.
5. They have to have read more than one book. In their life. This is more common than you think
Also – it seems that not many guys actually read your profile or take any notice of what you say. I am 29 and have had guys up to 55 send me kisses, even though I specified that I won’t see anyone over 38.
My favourite kiss so far was from a Japanese boy who wrote in Jinglish. His opening line was “I rike to make the girls a raughing”. His whole profile was in the same vein.
And last but not least…CHOOSE A VERY COMPLICATED LONG-WINDED PASSWORD! My ex hacked into mine and read all my conversations and reported them to my mum (luckily for me, it was my mum that encouraged me to go online!). I have been so worried that he might have contacted the guys I had spoken to (if they had given me their numbers).
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1. I don’t send out kisses, I only receive them (protecting my ego!)
2. I don’t pay for contact – they can! (And they do if they want to talk to you bad enough)
I see dating entitlement is alive and well. I hope you thank men when they pay to contact you.
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I’d do the same thing
The free, ahem, hand of the market is alive and well on dating sites
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Yeah, I get it. The demand is there, so why not let them pay.
I don’t have an issue with that. I just think that if someone spends money just for the chance to talk to you, they deserve a thankyou.
In reality the vast majority of women online never bother to do this. I suspect because they get approached by a large number of men it devalues the cost to those men in their eyes.
I’m not talking from a position of scarcity either. I have dated a few girls from online in the past and I have a fairly good response rate to my kisses as compared to other men.
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I think the two actually go hand in hand…I am not so desperate that I want to go trawling through other people’s profiles and find that I am inundated with kisses without me having to initiate contact. So – if someone sends me the first kiss – then yeah, I think they should pay for contact. I would expect to pay if I was the first one to send the kiss. If you call that ‘dating entitlement’ then go ahead.
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OMG don’t you hate it when a guy sends you a kiss and then you write back “thanks looking forward to receiving you email” they then kiss you back and say the ultimate slap “If you send the first email I will shout coffee” um no i don’t think so. I always write straight back with “thanks but I don’t think it will work out between us”
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I’ve had girls do that too, kiss me and then still expect me to cough up for the stamp.
Obviously I don’t accept.
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I so hear you!!! and it isn’t gender specific.. it’s just courtesy I think
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I get some many winks and msgs I just do not have the time to write back. My only exception is if someone sends me a really amazing message with clear effort, but they are not my type. Then I send a courtesy message back.
Otherwise I just don’t have the time, particularly as when I do write back ‘no thank you’ most guys actually see this as an opening and continue to write to me and it then descends into downright begging which is uncomfortable for everyone.
Guys just need to suck it up. It is supply and demand, if you don’t get a response move on with grace. Sometimes I send out winks and if I don’t get a response I don’t mind. And anyway, most of the guys I don’t respond to are clear mismatches and would have known that had they read my profile and interests properly. If a message or wink is sent to me by someone way out of age range (say more than 25 years) for example and then they get mad at me for not getting back to them I think that is just a bit much.
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I hear that! I have specifically stated on my profile my preferred age group of men but all I’m getting are the ancient ones!
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Oh Rick, I don’t have time to comment properly but I wanted to say how much I enjoyed this. The man sure can turn a phrase
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Same! Brilliant!
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You are too kind
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I Couldn’t sleep last night and somehow ended up watching Tele-chat a premium ($2.95 per text) television hook up “service” I was tempted to text in saying…. if you write like that no one will message you. It was all, hi I’m from neon, message me. Nothing enticing to make u want to message them.
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The last guy I dated off a dating site filled the “liar” category for two of the most basic questions – age and location. Those should have been warning bells right there – two months (on my birthday no less) later I realised that he was a selfish, delusional, lying narcissist and I broke up with him. I received a 2000 word email in return detailing all of my “problems” that he “couldn’t fix”. I didn’t bother to reply. Never have I been so glad to have broken up with someone!
As for dating profile errors – spelling and grammar and giant ones. If you can’t construct a basic sentence, it’s likely we won’t get on.
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Exclamation marks. Or as my daughter says “shouting sticks”.
I doubt that there is anything in life that requires more than two exclamations per paragraph (pushing it) and nothing ever worth five at the end of every sentence (pants wetter).
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Shouting sticks. Also stealing that.
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Stealing shouting sticks AND a thousand vomits (from Anon at 5.11)
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no, they are also called the REALLY MEAN IT marks
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Unless they write, “I like to PARRRTTTTTTTTTTTTYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!’ In which case five is fine.
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I think if you would exclaim it with excitement in real life use exclamation marks when writing, if not then don’t.
Generally when I see my friends I’ll be more “Hey, how’s everything been?” rather than “Hey! How are you?!?!?!!!”.
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What about ”I’m pregnant!!!!!”
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THAT is the only time “shouting sticks” (love) are at all excusable. You’re either screaming with joy, or exclaiming with horror (at the time.) There’s no in-between, with being up the duff.
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Rick, speaking of profile pics, that one of you is just perfect. You look fun but also a bit naughty. xx
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Accurate!
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I’ve always loved the approach of the LRB (London Review of Books) personals.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/01/02/1072908885008.html
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Rick- please write a book! I laughed out loud at ” It was rudimentary and bizarrely thought out, like Sex and the City 2 or the platypus.” and I long to laugh all day at such witicisms! Great piece!
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Good news! I am! It should be ready somewhere between now and the second coming of the Lord.
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ooh around the same time as mine then… perhaps we can share our book launch?!
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This made me think of the “I just love cats” video dating thing (which was not real, by the way!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTTwcCVajAc
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Hahaha!! I just snorted juice watching that video. So, uummm, great!
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But I do enjoy long walks on the beach & do it a lot! It’s my exercise in preference to a sweaty gym so I don’t see what’s wrong in saying so!
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That’s the thing about cliches, they’re very often the truest things going around! I also particularly like grabbing the bull by the horns (this happened a lot during my childhood) but English types everywhere groan when I say it…
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Then show your depth by saying you love being fit and healthy, but aren’t a gym junkie. You also love spending time outdoors especially the beach. See? Not too difficult
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I’m a member of the “I enjoy long walks on the beach, holding hands and fucking” Facebook group. It started from someone writing that on his friend’s shirt at a festival. I’ve copied a few times since (buck’s party at the races et el)
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I find wrongly spelling on profiles is always repulsive, I mean sure there are some words easy to get wrong but basic words? The spelling of come as ‘cum’ is sure to have me hitting delete, luckily I found someone I found lovable and friendly, quite different to whom I would usually pick, but much more thoughtful, so no more dating sites for me in the foreseeable future.
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Being new to single-town, I’ve briefly lurked on RSVP while entertaining the thought that I might just go there one day. As a grammar freak, I’m finding it’s actually an easy way to sort the well-spoken (and written) from those who don’t know the difference between ‘bought’ and ‘brought’. Also, I occassionally happen upon a catchy line such as ‘THIS ONES A PANTY DROPPA!!!!!!!!’ (that’s verbatim, people!) and instantly feel better about myself. Elitist? Pehaps. Highly amusing? Well, yes.
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I suddenly have an urge to put my dating profile on here to be critiqued.
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Do it, Samantha!
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Do it! You’re just sharing it amongst friends… friends that will probably rip it to pieces.
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Oooh… justJay is right. I will just be torn to shreds. Yeah, best not to put myself out their like that.
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