Do You Like This Story?
broken heart 380x321 GROUP THERAPY: Im pregnant and I found this. What do I do?

When your heart shatters, it feels like it might kill you.

 

 

 

 

 

By ANONYMOUS

It’s a normal Friday night. Your husband has been away on a business trip for the last two weeks, and both you and your four-year-old are eagerly anticipating his arrival in a couple of days.

When he gets back you are going to prepare the baby’s room. It’s an exciting time. After multiple miscarriages, one at nearly halfway, you are 20 weeks along and have finally stopped feeling fearful about having another crippling loss. This was your last ditch effort. If this pregnancy resulted in miscarriage, you both agreed that there would be no more tries.

Feeling so grateful you have passed this stage you decide to get some sleep.

And you have a little secret. You have called a wedding planner to organise a huge vow-renewal ceremony on your 10th anniversary in 2014. It will be so fun.

You smile. Life is good.

One of the last things you do every night is plug-in the iPad to recharge; your daughter cannot go two seconds without it.

A message flashes up on the screen as you plug it in.

‘Come to my room’, it says.

Weird, you think. Nobody uses the iPad for messaging.

They say curiosity killed the cat.

Or in this case, a marriage and a family.

You open the message.

Perhaps if you’d just ignored it, like you wanted to, everything would’ve been different. Perhaps it’s better not to know.

As you read, you realise you are seeing the real-time messages from your husband to some American woman called Laura. The iPad must be liked with his iPhone somehow.

Screen shot 2012 11 07 at 9.07.47 AM GROUP THERAPY: Im pregnant and I found this. What do I do?

xx

‘You have gorgeous eyes,’ she enthuses. ‘I’ve been thinking about you’ she adds.

‘Me too,’ your husband agrees readily.

You scroll through the multiple sentences. He’s leaving the next day; can they meet up before he goes? he wonders.

No firm plans are made, so you comfort yourself with the knowledge that there’s nothing irredeemable here. After all, he has never given you any reason to suspect he would cheat. He’s always been your rock, your foundation. And he knows the score. The consequences of cheating would be dire. You are prepared to forgive a lot, but not that. He has so much to lose.

Surely he has an explanation.

Of course, you can’t help but wonder what else is on this previously innocuous device.

There are a few more text conversations with other people, mostly work stuff.

Then you find it.

The conversation that alters your perception of everything and makes you realise you’ve been living a fool’s life.

The messages that make you feel like you have accidently crossed over into some nightmarish parallel dimension where men bereft of conscience readily do this to their pregnant wives.

‘Leave now,’ an equally anonymous, yet different, number urges. ‘Hurry.’

‘Almost there,’ your husband says. Then, an hour later, ‘You’re right. We can’t’.

‘Why did we then. Was it that bad for u?’ the number replies in text speak (she’s clearly intelligent and mature, the snide part of you notes).

‘I loved every second of it!’ he reassures. ‘Let’s talk tomorrow.’

YOUR husband says this. Not other people’s husbands—those other assholes that do that kind of thing to their naïve wives who never suspect anything. How stupid are they?

It’s a miracle that, in the moment your heart shatters, it doesn’t kill you.

It should.

It feels like you should die instantaneously.

And if you didn’t have a small child and another one still in your womb, you would he happy to.

You check the date and then your diary—your husband said he was working late that night, rationalised by the fact that he was going to leave early the following night so you could go out and celebrate your eighth wedding anniversary together.

The anniversary where he sat across and said nothing to you about what he’d done the night before. The dinner where he reassured you that he still loved you more than anything.

Screen shot 2012 11 07 at 9.07.00 AM GROUP THERAPY: Im pregnant and I found this. What do I do?

Group therapy.

That anniversary.

Explanations are demanded.

It was only a kiss, he justifies by phone from thousands of miles away. And he released it was massive mistake immediately. He didn’t tell you because he didn’t want to hurt you. It will never happen again, he says.

Except it nearly did, you point out—not even two weeks later, you were lining up another one. You didn’t ever care that you’d just cheated.

You realise in that moment you only saw two weeks of messages on that iPad. And in those two weeks, your husband has gone well outside the bounds of the marriage not once, but twice.

How many more have there been?

Who are you married to?

Then the awful realisation sets in. You are about to have no income and a newborn. No means of supporting two children on your own.

And your babies’ stable lives will be as broken as the marriage, condemned to a life of having a part-time father, at best. Or no father, like you had.

There’s hysteria. So many tears are unfamiliar and unwelcome. It feels like your chest is ripping apart.

Pain spikes cross your abdomen, and you panic for the baby. Your obstetrician prescribes Valium. So you can remain calm. Because that’s likely.

The baby’s ok, he reassures you.

A week later and your husband wants to come home. He wants to make it work. He loves you. He loves the children. He didn’t want to break up the family. He doesn’t know what he was thinking.

He wants forgiveness. He’ll do anything. What do you do?

 The author is a Mamamia reader who has chosen to remain anonymous. This is happening now. She genuinely wants your advice about what to do next.

Has this every happened to you or someone you know? Do you have any advice for our writer?

Comments

Comment Guidelines : Imagine you’re at a dinner party. Different opinions are welcome but keep it respectful or the host will show you the door. We have zero tolerance for any abuse of our writers, our editorial team or other commenters. So if you’re rude, mean-spirited, snarky, aggressive, defamatory or bitchy, your comment will be deleted (so will any replies to the original comment – so don’t bother arguing with rude people, instead just hit the ‘alert moderator’ button).
And if you’re offensive, you’ll be blacklisted and all your comments will go directly to spam. Remember what Fonzie was like? Cool. That’s how we’re going to be – cool. Have fun and thanks for adding to the conversation…

Use your profile to comment: Or, comment as a guest:
(Max file size is 150kb & jpeg's only - if you need help resizing go here »)

278 Comments so far

  1. Melissa

    What did I do?

    Ok I have a 3 year old and 1 year old and wasn’t pregnant. And I Yo-yo’d for two weeks.

    I then had an std test and asked him to leave.

    Luckily I’m disease free.

    Sadly I’m now a statistic. 15 years gone. And a single mum.

    But I’ve got great friends. And my family have been a huge support.

    My husband (soon to be ex) wants me back.

    I’ve got a list of all I’ve found so that I stay strong. He cheated our entire relationship. That’s not the sort of behaviour that will stop.

    I only found out because of contested parenting proceedings for his 5 year old son.

    Liars lie. And cheaters cheat. And someone who loved you would never do that to you.

    Further – I can’t live as a jail warden. Thus, I can’t live with him…

    It’s devastating. But I’ll make it through. And so will you.

    Hugs.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  2. youknowme.

    Walk away. It will hurt you to do so but not as much as staying will. Once a cheat, always a cheat… and once you have been the betrayed you will forever be mistrustful. That is no way to live your life. Oh, and by the way, he’s not sorry, he’s just sorry he got caught.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  3. Jay

    Staying together for your children won’t end well – you have said you can’t forgive him, and I don’t think you can ever trust him again. That’s no basis for a marriage, and bringing your children up in an environment of broken trust and resentment will be worse for them than if you separate, even if doing the latter is tough. Kids are perceptive, and eventually they will learn that you let yourself be miserable for years for their sake – don’t put that guilt on them. You can’t be the best parent you can be if you’re unhappy. You need to be strong, for yourself and for them, because you both deserve so much better. Good luck xx

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  4. Brittany

    My mother left my father when I was 3 and my sisters were 5 and 7. She was miserable in her relationship. Not long after the divorce she found my step father, who has been the most amazing role model and parent to me. I don’t know who or what I would be without his love and care and guidance and his undying love for my mum. Seeing how happy they have been, all my life, has taught me so much about relationships and self worth.

    Because of this experience I am very much against ‘Staying together for the kids’. Sure, I had a tough childhood going back and forth between 2 families, but I am 20 now and can see how much more traumatic my life would have been if Mum had of stuck around.

    Your children will grow up and they will learn from your example. You have the opportunity to teach them to be resilient, to be strong and to demand respect. Would you want your daughter staying with a man who hurt her so badly? A man SO selfish?

    Staying with him is easy, it’s comfortable, but it’s not the right thing to do by you or your children.

    Like me, your kids will respect you immensely if you do whats right for you.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  5. Anon as well

    Oh anon, I’m very sorry this has happened. I think you are taking the right approach however and you do sound very strong.

    I can empathise to some extent. Early in my current relationship (just after we moved in together) I discovered my partner had visited a woman he found on the internet for an ‘erotic massage’. I was mortified. We were madly in love, had great sex and all the rest so I couldn’t understand why.
    I didn’t tell anyone at the time because I was so utterly humiliated and embarassed (like it was my fault). So I kept it a secret, sought counselling for myself to deal with hurt and asked him to go to counselling too.

    Fast forward three years and we’re engaged and expected our first baby together in January. I have forgiven him, but absolutely not forgotten. Most of the trust has been rebuilt in our relationship, but there are times where I panic especially with another person who will be joining our lives. What if this happens again? He knows in no uncertain terms that we would separate and that our child would be brought up in two different households, which he does not want.

    Despite my joy of my current situation and bringing a baby into the world…in hindsight, I probably would have just left him when I had the opportunity- but I didn’t have the strength or support to then.

    Things can move on, happiness can come in SOME situations and time can heal…but as a woman you will always wonder. Maybe everyday at first and then sporadically after that…but it’s always there.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  6. Dstar

    I’m sorry you’re dealing with this at what is supposed to be a happy time of your life, but I think you’ll find the answer all your own questions in what you’ve written.

    “You are prepared to forgive a lot, but not that.” — you have written that.

    If you can’t forgive, you can’t move on. There is also the future trust issue to consider. What it comes down to in simple terms is this: Is this a deal breaker for you? If it is, it can never work, but only you can decide this for yourself.

    Incidently – and this is just my opinion – given the what the previous texts say, it certainly doesn’t sound like it was “just a kiss” and to believe that would be denial. Have you ever asked someone if a kiss was bad for them? And your husband “enjoyed every second” of a kiss?? Nope. Something more happened for sure.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  7. Miranda

    You are getting sex confused with love. Men see sex as a purely physical thing they want to do. Women see it as love.
    Neither is right nor wrong- just different.
    Get a good counsellor. Work together. And communication, communication, communication is the key.
    You said you would be there in good times and bad, and this is the bad.
    You can make it through this and when you do your relationship will be the strongest it has ever been.
    Good luck my love. You will be in my thoughts and prayers.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
    • Alice

      I think maybe you have a different understanding of love than many people.

      Even if the affair was just sex for him (and sex can definitely be just sex for women too), the point is that he knew how very deeply it would hurt her if she ever found out, he knew that it could end their marriage, and he chose to do it anyway. Choosing to inflict that kind of pain, betray so very deeply and lying so blatently to someone is NOT how you treat someone you love. It doesn’t matter how he felt about the other woman – whether she was love or sex – what matters is that he chose to ruin his wife’s life.

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
  8. Barbara

    I am so sorry this is happening to you. Similar to my situation and I NEVER thought my husband was capable of such a thing. It turns out out he had many women from day one of our relationship. I still have no answers why and doubt I will ever revover from the pain. He has destroyed my faith in everything I believed in. He cant be trusted and I guarantee there is more he’s not telling you. You deserve better and so do your children. I wish you all the best.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  9. Lolly

    I have no advice because I’m not a parent – but I always wonder why women leave and take the children, or throw out the partner? Why don’t women leave without the children? I would think being a single parent is a very hard job, but it seems that the partner without the children has a sweeter deal? Like the guy below who has the baby one day and one night a week. How easy is that? No day in, day out, hard slog to deal with, just breeze in for 24 hours and then rest for the next 6 days? I reckon being the parent without the kids 24/7 would be the better deal. If I had kids and my partner and I split, I’d leave the kids behind with him and be the fun weekend parent – no drama during the week with work and school pickups, no every day bath/dinner drama – you get to live your life all week and then spend weekends being the fun, awesome parent. I’d say have the baby and then leave him with a newborn and four year old. Not much time for anything on the side then, I’d think?

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
    • Liza

      Nice logic, Lolly – I wish it were so simple. :)

      Unfortunately, the reality is that when you have kids, you love them to bits and can’t bear to be away from them (most of the time!). The boring bits suck (cooking, cleaning, drop-offs etc) but the cuddles, chats, playtime etc make up for it :)

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
    • Sezzard

      Lolly, I mean no disrespect at all when I say this but your comment tells me you haven’t experienced parenthood yet! (even though you did say so yourself) a few years ago I would have said “just leave the kids and go and live your own life, let him pay for his mistakes by being the responsible one” which is actually strikingly similiar to your own comment!
      But when you have babies you just can’t bear to leave them. You dont want to miss a moment of their precious lives!
      This little person that you created amazes and astonishes you everyday and brings you the most amount of joy you have ever experienced in your entire life. That trek of Kokoda? Doesn’t compare. Sky diving over the gold coast? Pfft, when was that? That 72 hours of pure laughter, adventure and fun in paris on NYE 2004 with your 3 best friends? Got nothing. Parenthood tops every other life experience (in my opinion) and I honestly can’t fathom why someone would willingly give it away!

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
      • Elke

        I think what Lolly is wondering, and what I am wondering also, is when you say:

        “But when you have babies you just can’t bear to leave them. You dont want to miss a moment of their precious lives!”

        do the fathers not feel like this also? If there’s a break up, someone has to have primary responsibility of the kids, do the fathers not feel this unbearable, intense love?

        I am not meaning this to come across in a naive or insulting way, I am just genuinely curious.

        GD Star Rating
        loading...
        • Lolly

          What Elke said.

          I just always wonder when I hear a couple has split and the mother has the children and then she gets lumped with 95% of the hard work, while the father gets weekends.

          (I’m generalising, I know that this is not the case in all situations)

          Poor mum is run ragged all week while dad swoops in saturday morning all refreshed and takes the kids somewhere super fun and drops them back full of sugar.

          I just wonder why dads dont take the kids or why mums dont leave without them? Don’t dads have that “I cant bear to be away from my children” as well? Maybe they don’t – maybe because mum carried the child and gave birth, it’s a different feeling?

          GD Star Rating
          loading...
    • Alyssa KT

      Oh dear…
      I’ve got a friend whose mum left him at a few weeks old with his dad to raise him, then did the same thing to three other children with three other men. I’ve never understood it. Most women’s maternal instinct/love would never allow them to be so unattached.
      As for men getting it “easy” by only having access to their kids a couple of days a fortnight, I know many fathers who tell me this situation rips their heart apart.
      Definitely not as simplified as you suggest.

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
    • Sara

      You are obviously not a mother. If you were you would understand the impossibility of this suggestion. Yes raising my daughter is hard work, yes it would be ‘easier’ to give her up but I couldn’t fathom not having her & all the ‘work’ she brings every day. Along with the hard slog there is the pure joy she brings, the laughter & love. I’d imagine I’d want this & need it even more should my husband & I ever go our seperate ways.

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
  10. Ellen

    Don’t worry about not having any money, because he will have to pay child support. How could you be with someone who would do this to you? Being a single mother isn’t that bad. You can be really pround of yourself because you work so much harder than other parents.Your husband sounds like a psyco and a compulsive lier. You will be so much happier on your own.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  11. MrsB

    Is he sorry he did it or is he sorry he got caught? I don’t think I could ever trust him again. I am in a similar situation as you – young kids, no personal income, grew up fatherless – and it did dawn in me during an incredibly rough patch of my marriage that I would be raising my kids on limited funds, by myself, all the things I did not want for them. But as the old saying goes, the best thing a father can do for his children is love their mother. Kids do know instinctively what is going on in a marriage.
    I truly hope your husband means it, and that he is sorry. I hope he never does it again. If you’re willing to take the chance, and stay with him, I wish you happiness and peace.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  12. B

    My aunty was cheated on three different times by her husband, once with the first child on the way, again somewhere in the middle, and the last time she found out was the day before her 6th child was due. She tried to make it work, but the 3rd time was enough. He sacrificed the love of his family (whose eldest children didn’t talk to him for another 10 years) for a silly fling. He is a loser and a jerk, and to be honest I never really liked him – he was so mean when we were kids.
    But it broke that family, but they rebuilt, and all of the kids are such wonderful cousins and human beings. And my Aunt has found a lasting relationship again.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  13. Anonbuthopeful

    When I was 14 I received an anonymous letter ‘your father is in love with another woman’ it began. It went on to detail a messy affair that would eventually end my parents marriage of 18 years and my von Trapp-like existence in a tight-knit family of six children. My mother is the strongest woman I know, she howled with pain, turned her mind to forgiveness in a futile attempt to make things work for the sake of her large brood and always put her children first. Eventually, repeated infidelity ruined my parents’ marriage. This is what I have learned:

    It was not the physical act of betrayal that ended my parents’ marriage, it was the lies that facilitated it. It was that my mother could recall stories of my father ‘working late’ and ‘trips being extended’. It was that mutual friends and colleagues of my parents remained tight-lipped. Those are the hallmarks of infidelity that my mother held to be insurmountable and I think with professional help you need to work out if they are lies you can forgive.

    Your children will see, hear, and know more than you think. I had much younger siblings who I know absorbed more of the situation than we’d have liked, despite what we thought were stoic and effective attempts to conceal the awfulness. Try not to fight in front of them and as they grow older, do not pit them against their father. Rationality and honesty at the right time will do wonders. Consistent, underhanded tension and resentment will be really harmful.

    You will survive, your children can still thrive, you have not failed and life will be happy once more. Your loss is savage and breathtaking now. There will be times you howl and scream. Others where you are filled with a deeper, quieter, lonely sadness. It will take all the support your friends and family have to get you through but whether you remain with your husband or decide instead to parent your children without being in a relationship, things will be happy again. My mother has remarried the most wonderful man. She has established a good friendship with my father. My siblings and I are lawyers, economists, journalist, designers and students. We have good relationships with the people we love. We all celebrate Christmas together. We love both our parents. We idolise our mother. There are scars but no open wounds.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
    • leadlebeatle

      I want to LIKE this comment 1000 times

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
    • amd

      That is beautiful. Oh that everyone could have access to such a mother…

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
    • Melissa

      God I hope this happens for my kids.

      Success despite separation.

      Thank you for sharing.

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
    • Amelia

      Thank you thank you thank you for this response, Anonbuthopeful. Props to your Mum for being so brilliant :)

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
  14. Resourcing Parents

    The title to this story is Group Therapy and I want to share about a group for couples who are having a bab.Iit is called Bringing Baby Home and is all about the relationshi and how to look after each othe and the new baby.. Sadly many mothers find themselves in the situation like this author and the solution is never easy but always painful. Bringing Baby Home is maybe a prevention and sometimes a new beginning. You can find out when the courses are running by lookin at http://www.resourcingparents.com a Families NSW funded website.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  15. Anon

    I am child of a father who cheated on my mother numerous occasions (with the longest standing affair the one I uncovered – and was unwillingly dragged into the middle of, including an abusive phone call from the mistress when I was 15 years old!). As a child who experienced this situation, the most important thing you can do for your children is to do what is right for you.

    My parents stayed together, but never got the counselling they needed. There was never closure, my mother hasn’t ever fully regained trust (looks through his phone, emails when she can) and I sometimes think it can be more damaging staying in a broken relationship for the sake of your children. As a child, all I want is for my parents to be happy. And I think they are most of the time, but the hurt from the affairs has never fully gone away.

    Its very easy for women to say “leave the bastard”, but when your entire life is wrapped up in one person and you have children, it just isn’t that simple. I think it is harder to stay, and work on the relationship. If you stay, get counselling – its too much for you two to deal with on your own. Be open to help aand accept that healing takes a long time. The trust is hard to win back, it may never be fully regained, but if you feel like you’re not ready to let go, work on it together and give it a go. Then, if you still can’t move past it, let it go, because the bitterness and resentment will eat you alive.

    Its completely heartbreaking and I’m so sorry you’re going through this. If its any comfort, unfortunately it is a common experience and I think its wonderful that Mamamia opens up a dialogue about these issues and creates a forum where women can support each other. I only wish this sort of thing was available for my Mum when she went through this.

    Good luck and lots of love.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  16. Leave him

    Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  17. afw

    Sure, maybe it was a one time liaison with THAT woman (the one you said called you) but I get the distinct feeling it is just the tip of the iceberg. I suspect there have been MANY other liaisons and women. You just caught one or two. He would never ever have told you. He is remorseful as he’s been caught. He is creep-tastic. Sorry but it’s true. He decided that his orgasms and a variety of bed-mates were worth risking his marriage and babies for. Not husband material. Yes, he will love your new baby when it arrives, but that won’t stop him from cheating.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  18. Anon

    This could have been written by me. My husband cheated on me with a 22 year old from the office (he is 40) during my second much tried for pregnancy. I also have a 4 yr old.

    We went to therapy & have ended up together after much soul searching on my part. It isnt quite the same – maybe 80% of what it used to be. I lost a lot of respect & trust for him & that can never be fully regained. Having said that we are happy & he is as smitten with our new baby as I always thought he’d be. I think about it everyday though & it still makes me feel awful.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
    • Victoria

      Just try to focus on the fact that it is now in the past and try not to let the past affect your future. Let it go and allow him to be happy with you and your decision to continue the relationship. It will get better from here.

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
  19. Eve

    My sister and best friend have both decided to stay with unfaithful husbands and I have watched it destroy the women I dearly love. My eyes are now fully open. I have made the decision in advance that I will never allow this to happen to me. I will not stay, I will not cry and be comforted by the man who did me wrong. I will leave, I will be alone for awhile and I will survive. I hope you do too. Much love.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  20. The writer of this post (Anonymous)

    Hi Everyone,
    Thanks so much for all your suggestions and comments, I very much appreciate it. A answers to questions:
    Yes I am real and sadly this is actually happening and I live in Sydney.
    I am not taking the valium anymore. I only took it while I was so distressed the baby was at risk.
    There is no question I am keeping this baby, and my husband desperately wanted a second child. He was delighted when there was a heartbeat this time. He WAS a very good father, before this.
    The woman knew he was married and had a child and a pregnant wife. She is also married. To her credit, she has since called to apologise to me and assure me it’s over and I was a one-time mistake.
    I have kicked him out.
    I have taken the suggestions that I keep copies of crucial documents and open my own bank account, thank you.
    He is getting counselling and I will soon follow. I will agree to joint counselling only after he has done his time on his own.
    I am struggling with the need to keep my family stable for my children versus keeping my self-respect. My last relationship ended unequivocally when he cheated. I do not believe in going back.
    I have no idea how you get trust back after something like this.

    Thank you to you all xx

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
    • Amandarose

      Best of luck with everything- Who knows what the future olds but it sounds like your approaching things with the right attitude.

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
    • elle

      FeYou come across as a strong, brave woman and I have every confidence you will get through this. I noticed you mentioned struggling between keeping your self respect & stability fir your kids. It is my opinion that the best stability for kids is a home where they feel loved & that their parents are stable themselves. Your own self respect is veryimportant & if you feel it would be compromised by staying then it will be better for your kids &you if you leave. Btw i am in Sydney too if you need any babysitting or a break from cooking etc.

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
    • Newby

      Well done ont he dtrength and courage you are showing. It is something your children will remember. From my understanding it is his issue that has brought you to your present place and his counselling which hopefully will shine a light on the WHY. It is only when you understand the why that you can figure out the direction you take. Good luck.

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
  21. Rachael

    Only you know what feels right in your heart. I guess if you are prepared to trust him again you need to do it knowing that he may break that trust. Can you experience this event a second time? I guess that’s an area that counseling may help you with.

    I have been on both sides of this fence. I was once the other woman (unknowingly at the time, I was only 20). He left his wife for me but I didn’t find out this until I ran into him again years later and he told me the truth. I thought he was already separated. Incidentally when we broke up he went back to his wife, had two more children (there was already one when I met him) and then left her again. So I would suggest that there needs to be some long chats with your husband about what it is that is making him be dissatisfied and can he get past this. Sometimes men cheat for no real reason except ego but you need to figure it out. Either way, it’s not your fault.

    From the other side when I was 40 weeks pregnant I found out my ex had slept with someone else when I was about half way through the pregnancy. I always suspected and asked numerous times but he promised he didn’t and in the end I found it he did (I found out through deliberate snooping so some would say I deserved it but whatever – I have no regrets). The point is that he repeatedly lied to me, to my face, because he thought I would never know. This can happen. I actually would have continued trying as we had a young baby on the way but within 6 months things had fallen apart and I was a single mum of a 6 month old. Which is where I think I can really give you some advice.

    Don’t stay with your husband if the children are your ONLY motivation. As long as he is able to be a good provider and dad while you are apart then I think you will find that being a single parent isn’t as hard as you might think. I found the first 6 months of my son’s life when my relationship was in a terrible state to be much harder than the following 8 months I have done on my own. I don’t live near family either. My baby’s dad does contribute significantly financially though and has his little boy one night and full day per week and is flexible to take him more if I have something on etc. It would be a lot harder if I didn’t have this sort of support. Just something for you to think about.

    This is not an easy situation for you and I am so sorry you had to go through this. Whatever happens I hope you find happiness at the end of this road.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  22. K

    My heart goes out to you. I think I would leave him, but I know that’s easy for me to say. I just hope you can find comfort & calmness somehow. Maybe a therapist could help? All the best xxxxx

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  23. anony

    Happy mummy,happy babies..If you will be happy, stay and fix it. If you wont and cant forgive then the best thing for your children and yourself is to leave. Be a strong role model for them, Money wont make them good people and they will learn whats ok in a relationship based on whats around them..I feel very sad for you, and this difficult decision.

    Personally, Id leave the sack of sh*t.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  24. Rach

    I’m so, so deeply sorry for you.

    But no.

    This wasn’t a one time thing, it was a systematic long term thing that only ended because you found out about it.

    If you really, genuinely think by some miracle of circumstance or character that your man could genuinely change and NEVER do it again… then maybe. I’m not one to walk away from a marriage lightly.

    But if it is as it seems… hell no. You deserve better than that, and so do your children. They deserve to know that a committed relationship means faithfulness. They deserve to know that honesty and integrity are important, and are to be expected, in life and in relationships. So do you.

    My heart goes out to you, darling- wishing you comfort and strength.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  25. Anon for now

    You pretend. You go on as if you believe his lying words, and you pretend that you’ve forgiven him. And while all this is happening, you plan the day and the time and the way you are going to leave. You make your own private bank account and you start putting money away. You open up an account for the children for their education and get him to put money in that. You find support networks and where you’re going to live and you get all your ducks in a row. Then you leave the bastard.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
    • George

      My ducks are still slowly getting in a row. Slowly.
      But while they were getting straight, my husband and I worked hard on us. This included therapy, moving away from his toxic family, him putting me before absolutely everything, him working hard to improve our financial situation, me having much more say in what happens and doesn’t happen in our family, him proving with actions, for the last 4.5 years, that he is a changed man. He fought hard. Really hard. And I didn’t make it easy.
      I am under no illusions here. I am fully aware that this may never be forever, like I thought it was. But I have to give my husband credit for doing everything he knows how, and then some, to save what was most important to him.
      I was forced to learn, in therapy, about disfunction on a level I had no idea existed. I had to learn what growing up in a physically and emotionally abusive household (alcoholic father and absent mother) can lead to in adulthood. I had to find compassion. Nothing that I have learned about my husband, excuses his behaviour. Nothing. But becoming aware of his true past did give me an understanding. I would have scoffed at these words, before it happened to me.
      I have learned many things in these last few years. I have learned that I am stronger than I thought. I have learned what it means to truly love someone – major, soul-destroying faults and all, and I have learned that no matter what happens now, I will survive.

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
  26. Sarah

    To be brutally honest you should leave him. People don’t change. To protect yourself and your children, get as much evidence of his adultery as you can and seek legal advice. I have a friend going through something similar and whilst it’s taken 8 months she is about to be divorced with full custody, a house, car, school fees paid and a reasonable alimony. Her husband cheated when she was pregnant with their third. He said he was regretful and it could have been genuine, but the damage was done. She was successful in her divorce because she had evidence and was vulnerable. My friend went through a lot of trauma, pain and humiliation but she got through it with support and love from friends and family. Be strong and think of what is best for you.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  27. Alex

    There can be no going back, if you can handle and open marriage you stay as you are. Otherwise you need your friends and your family to help you get by without him.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  28. Mel

    I have no experience with this sort of thing but my advice would be that you two need to have complete honesty with each other.

    He needs to tell you absolutely everything in order for you to make a decision on your future. Only if you know everything and accept it, can you move on together. If details are left out and you stay together, you will always doubt him and be thinking about it.

    The decision is yours to make, but make sure you make it with all the facts on the table. It’s a huge decision to make, don’t rush, you’re in the drivers seat.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  29. chillax

    I really want to know what sort of women do this with married men? Yes the man is married and has done the wrong thing, but he cant do the wrong thing if there is no willing party? I dont know a woman who considers moving in on someone elses boyfriend, partner, husband acceptable. Even when we were young and reckless we had a friend who kissed a married man on a girls night out and we told her off and disowned her as a friend. So what makes some women justify that its ok?

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
    • Guest

      It is not black and white as you have suggested women genuinely only do this when they fall in love with a man, he to her and he promises to leave his wife in a very short time period. Try falling in love with someone then try falling out of love with them very quickly, married or not, love is love.

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
    • Anon 100%!!

      I knew two girls (completely separately) who met wonderful men, fell deeply in love, then months and months in found out that they were married/engaged (respectively). One girl was utterly horrified and ended it immediately, but the other believed his lies that they were only “technically” still married (y’know, just for the kids, because he’s such a good guy) but that they were in the process of separating. So it’s not all evil man-eaters who don’t give a damn.

      There is another group though. I’m currently working OS with a huge group of interns and EVERYONE cheats. It literally is like because everyone is away from home and without their usual friends or their family, everything occurs in a vaccum and people just do what they want. For example, my close friend her is seeing a guy with a gf of 8 years, who lives elsewhere. My friend’s rationale is that if he wasn’t sleeping with her, he’d be sleeping with someone else, because cheats will cheat, regardless of who it’s with. She also says that she doesn’t know the woman, she has no obligations to her and it’s not really her position to feel bad about what the man is chosing to do in his relationship.

      I also slept with a guy, then found out the next day he has a partner of 7 years at home. I feel awful for her that her bf is rooting his way around europe, but I don’t personally feel bad for my involvement because if it wasn’t with me, it would have been with someone else.

      I hope they are vaguely useful clarifications. I know they’re awful.

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
  30. chillax

    I’m so sorry. But Im a bit old fashioned with this sort of thing. Nobody is perfect and he has shown remorse and wants to come home. Can you find it in your heart to work on the relationship and give it another try? It will be hard, often staying is the hardest option, but if you believe your family is worth fighting for its worth it. He sounds like he’s trying to meet you halfway. I wouldnt want to give another woman the satisfaction of knowing that she broke up my family.
    Your husband has had his worst nightmare, you found out. I would make sure she had hers too. I would find out where she works or her friends and let them know her true colours.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
    • Anonymous

      Is it not the other woman’s fault..she isn’t the one in the marriage! How does it sound like he is trying to meet her halfway? He didn’t tell her and probably never would have! He is trying to save his sorry ass.

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
      • chillax

        He wants forgiveness and wants to come home and said he will do anything. Sounds like he wants to make an effort.
        I know a few couples who have survived cheating and are stronger for it. It doesnt always mean divorce.

        GD Star Rating
        loading...
    • Jenny

      Don’t be so naive to think it is the woman’s fault – he is the married man cheating on his partner

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
      • chillax

        They’re both adults, he is married, she is aware of his marriage. Both at fault.

        GD Star Rating
        loading...
  31. Anonymous this time

    Leopards Don’t Change Their Spots.

    Almost 10 years ago I was in your position. I told no one what my husband had done. I was burdened with this huge secret out of humiliation. No one in my family had ever separated or divorced and I felt like a total failure. I reflected on my marriage vows of ‘for better or worse’. I ignored my intuition and I stayed. I forgave – but did not forget – and I soldiered on, telling myself no one would know. I was wrong – my family knew something was very wrong but didn’t know what.

    He knew in no uncertain terms what he was risking if it occured again. Three years and a second child later it did – and I trusted my intuition and I left. I discovered he had given me an STI. It wasn’t easy. Emotionally I was a wreck. My self esteem and self confidence were in the toilet. I found a wonderful female Psychologist, and I saw her regularly for many months.

    You need to tell your family and HIS family what has happened because I can tell you right now he won’t be honest with his family and tell the TRUTH! Even if you decide not to tell them they will sense that something is wrong – your body language and your coolness towards him will indicate that everything is NOT OK.

    Surround yourself with people who love you, and know you best, for support.

    Contact the Womens Legal Service in your state for some legal advice. They have heard ‘your story’ more times than you can imagine.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
    • Jimmy's Girl

      Thank you, Anonymous this time. You first line was my mantra when things finally ended between my ex and I. Leopards don’t change their spots. I have since found this to be true. The ‘lucky’ woman whom he chased during our marriage has also found this out the hard way, I have heard. Karma’s a bitch.

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
  32. anon

    this exact situation happened to my friend 4 years ago. she is still stuck in a loveless marriage with a man who lies – he takes one step forward in therapy to appease her and then goes 4 steps back – and its not just other woman but a multitude of other problems. try therapy but only stay if you can truly let go of the indescretions and move on or you will be eaten up by bitterness and mistrust, there is also the issue of whether he really can be trusted.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  33. Anonymous

    Be careful here… Some men (or women) as a part of unchecked anxiety, engage in self destructive behaviour to push all that they love away from them so they can be justified feeling sad, or unworthy. This is the start of something deeper usually. I have learned this first hand. Considering the traumatic emotional journey you have both been on it maybe he is totally effected by all the termoil. I’m not excusing his behaviour but sometimes the issue Is not the REAL issue. I stayed and never regretted it, people talk cliches …once a cheater..blah blah …..I cut his blah off! No one knows how to deal with your situation but you. Love someone more when I it’s the hardest to, as that’s thd time they need it the most! Good luck!

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
    • Rach

      Maybe true in certain very specific situations, but… generally not, I’d say.

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
  34. Horrifying

    It is so sad to see so many women go through this, I am newly married no kids, no pregnancy and even without those things i could not imagine what i would do or how i would feel if this happened to me. It is just horrifying to hear all this! My thoughts are with all of you. i agree it should be (the other woman) that you should be angry with, they get your husband without all the strings. If anyone could be so lucky.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
    • Rach

      Sorry, but… really? The other woman is obviously either ignorant or a bitch, but… she is not the one who made the commitment. He is.

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
  35. CMac

    I don’t know what I would do if actually faced with this situation but I believe in theory for me cheating isn’t a deal breaker depending on the situation. There will be huge mountains to overcome but I would want to do everything to keep my family in tact and not throw it away for a liasion with someone else.
    My hope would be that in 5, 10, 15 20 years from now, we would be celebrating wonderful milestones – our daughter’s wedding, our own anniversaries, grandchildren together as a happy family. With that goal in mind, I believe it’s worth trying to fix the present if possible. If he really wants to change and wants that same family life, why let another woman take that away from you.
    Good luck with your decision and God Bless you xxx

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
    • Anonymous

      Another woman isn’t taking it away! Her husband took it away when he decided to cheat on her! Personally I wouldn’t want to spend the rest of my life with a man like that.

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
    • chillax

      I agree CMac. Marriage is supposed to be disposable, its supposed to be in good times and bad. Today a tiny bit of bad has people heading for the hills.

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
      • chillax

        woops – typo – isnt supposed to be disposable!!

        GD Star Rating
        loading...
      • Anonymous

        How is hooking up with another woman while you’re at home pregnant a ‘tiny bit of bad’ ??? Marriage isn’t disposable..that’s right. It is PRECIOUS and should be respected and treated as such by her husband!

        GD Star Rating
        loading...
  36. lv

    Oh hun I have no practical advice and wouldn’t have a clue what to do, but really want to send you the biggest hug and hope that things will settle and be ok for you X

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  37. lindi

    I write this while looking back as if in a fog.the man I had children with paid for sex.the entire way through our relationship.even during pregnant with our two kid’s.I found out after son born.he was two weeks old and I thought I’d die from the pain of it.almost crippled me.took medication counselling alot of family support to get through.only you can decide the future and if you have one.I know your pain.anonymous women and all.take care.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  38. Anon

    Get the he’ll out of there. ASAP.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  39. Hard one

    I have never been put in your position, and I sympathise that you are suffering pain. If you want to leave – get a good accredited family specialist, if you have no income, no real ability for an income and are primary carer you could organise spousal support etc. But I don’t know either your financial or emotional circumstances, but that is just basic advice if you want to go that route. I wish you all the best.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  40. Shar

    WOW! This one pulls on the heart strings, and only because I’ve been there. And, unfortunately it looks like so many of us had. How did cheating become the norm?

    I don’t think it’s a matter of what you do, but how you feel. It’s one thing to take him back, see counselors and try and reason with your love. BUT, if you don’t rebuild the core foundation of trust you spend every second thinking “what is he doing?”. At crazy times, like 5 more minutes at the shops and automatically I am thinking he’s found someone. If only picking up was that easy we all would have spent more time chilling at grocery store during our youth, instead of torturous night in clubs on those unforgiving heals.

    All I can say is good luck, but if you don’t restore your trust. No matter what the outcome. You will go through hell every second your not with him.. thinking of the maybes.

    Ohh and FYI… I was the most trusting person in the world before I was cheated on!

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  41. Anonymous

    I am going thru something very similar at the moment… my situation went on for 8 years – we had everything, a truely fantastic life. I kept finding messages and the excuses kept coming. Finally this year I said enough is enough and told him to leave it was heartbreaking as I really wanted my little family to stay together and my little girl to have a Daddy so I worked on it – I truely believed we would come out the other end stronger and forgive and forget. I went to therapy, he went to therapy over 3 months but not together. We finally went together and he said all the right things (master manipulator I later learnt which I should have realised 8 years earlier). Fast forward to now 4 weeks later he was still lying and cheating so he is gone. Like you I am worried about my future – where do my little girl and I live, I left my job last year to be here for her and work from home but don’t have a regular income the anxiety and worry go on and on. This time I have had to be very tough on him as he sucks me in every time and its not a healthy situation for me. When someone you have been with for 10 years wont let you touch there phone, see there emails etc. you have got to think something is going on. It must be so stressful for them keeping all those lies – and it was stressful for me being part of them so I cant be part of it anymore. I cry a lot of my good and bad days – share with your good friends and family as they will be there for you. If you can make it work do it for sure talk it thru and be honest about how you feel. Good luck I hope you work it out.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  42. Jen

    The trust is gone. If you stay for the sake of your children then they will just see an insecure and unhappy mother. You deserve more. If you want your children to feel respected you set the example. Once a cheat always a cheat. It will be tough for you but you will have your self respect. Nothing is more important than that

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
    • Anonymous

      YES! This is 100% true. I struggle to see how a woman can maintain her self respect staying with a man who has behaved this way.

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
  43. Anon for this one

    12 mths ago (in our 10th yr of marriage) my husband had an affair with a work colleague. I suspected it and i confronted him and he denied it but we both decided we had problems so he moved out for a week.At which time i found out he was sleeping with her. He begged to come home and he was going to give 110% to the marriage. He ca mhe back and we had counselling but the messages and phone calls never stopped until months later (i was so stupid but i too didnt want to be a single mum). Now hesays he cant live without me but with the recent “anniversary” of the affair i realised that im still livibg with such hardness in my heart and im beginning to think that i cant forgive and forget after all. I wish now that i hadnt taken him back and just gotten on with my life back then. Think long and hard about thepros and cons. I wish you luck and strength, lots of strength x

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
    • elle

      Thank God you’re out of there now girlfriend!! Sorry he was such an asshole :( I wish you every happiness in the future! You have plenty of life ahead of you to be surrounded by loving, caring, respectful people! :)

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
  44. Newstart

    I have been through something similar recently in terms of huge deception and decided to try and work through it. He moved out, we both went to counselling and saw each other only on weekends. I wanted to make the right decision. I should say now that I have no kids so perhaps I have an easier decision to make.
    In the end I realised that he had an underlying belief that it is ok to lie to your partner whether it be on big issues or small ones. I was shocked – I am by definition a very honest person and had never lied to my husband in 6 years. About anything.
    I decided I didn’t want to spend my life wondering what the truth was or looking for lies so I called it a day.
    I have to add here that I have been ‘the other woman’ many, many years ago and men who do this once will do it again given the opportunity.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  45. Sue

    You have to ask yourself why is he doing this? Is it just sex or the thrill of the disallowed? Or has the attempt to have the second baby overwhelmed him. There are no excuses but men are so weak when it comes to things like this and there are so many women out there just waiting to pounce. The trust cycle has been broken now and it would be hard to mend without good couples counselling. There are the children to consider and it is hard bringing up kids without a partner and no financial assistance.

    I worry sometimes about women who need to have multiple children even if it puts enormous pressure on the relationship. Not saying that this is the case here but you must ensure you are really on the same page when it comes to kids and how often and how quickly you have them.

    I wish you the best of luck. I did forgive after a long time and my marriage is now very good and my partner never strayed again. But you need to smarten up and make more of an effort and it is not all about the kids your partner needs you too!

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
    • elle

      “men are so weak when it comes to things like this and there are so many women out there just waiting to pounce” Wtf?? How insulting to the many amazing men who are loyal to their women and would never behave in this way. Also so insulting of the majority of women who would never pursue a married man if they were aware he was taken. How dare you imply that his behaviour is in any way her fault saying things like “you need to smarten up and make more of an effort and it is not all about the kids your partner needs you too!”. There are no excuses for cheating on your partner and breaking your marriage vows and the trust and respect. I feel you’re just saying these things to make yourself feel better because you stayed.

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
    • JessG

      Wow Sue.. I can see what you’re getting at but it seems harsh. ‘Worry sometimes about women who need to have multiple children’? However they decided on trying for more children after their first is irrelevant to his infidelity. It’s called marriage! In sickness and in health. I am having my 2nd baby in a few weeks and my first is only 11months so I guess I’m one of those women. Have I forgotten about my husband at times? Of course! But it’s not easy looking after a baby and growing another at the same time. But my husband is here for the long haul so I don’t think I need to ‘smarten up.’ I know you meant well but it just seemed harsh. He needs to accept responsibility. Good luck to you anonymous and please stay true to yourself your kids will be better for it too x

      GD Star Rating
      loading...
  46. SJ

    Forgive him? NO.WAY. End of.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  47. Emily

    I’m so sorry!!!

    I don’t think anyone can tell you what to do. Only you know if you can forgive him and move forward. If you can’t do that you will end up in a loveless relationship and unhappy, possibly effecting the other people (and children) around you. My now husband cheated and I took him back and have no second thoughts so it can be done, successfully, if you want to. But you have to be prepared to forgive and forget.

    Wishing you happiness, whatever you decide.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  48. TDMJ

    I feel for you, so much Anon, I don’t know if there’s much I can say to help.

    What I will say, is that some people end their marriages over infidelity, and some people don’t. Some people can’t work things out and are better for the decision, and some people do and are all the stronger for it. You have a choice, even if it’s a choice between two equally undesirable options. I just think it can be helpful to remember that when everyone is giving you advice and you’re not sure what you *should* do.

    Also, life as a ‘single’ parent isn’t easy – boy, is it not easy – but your husband can and should support you. Fight tooth and nail for this if you have to. It’s tough but it’s very, very do-able. Don’t feel you have to stay somewhere you’re not happy just because of the financial consequences.

    I guess, for my five cents worth, if it was me? I wouldn’t believe it was just a kiss and I would believe the apologies and regret. I’d see it as a ‘problem’ and treat it accordingly – move him out, at least to the spare room if not into a flat, while you go through rigorous counselling to work out what went wrong and if it can be fixed. Then from there you can decide if you stay together or split.

    I’m so sorry you’ve found yourself in this position. Good luck and take care of yourself.

    TDMJ.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  49. Cath

    I’m sorry you are going through this. I don’t think anyone can tell you what to do. All I can say is what I said to myself when I left a bad marriage:

    “I only get one chance to live this life, I would rather be alone and happy than with a man who doesn’t love, respect or appreciate me”.

    Best of luck to you, it’s a really hard decision but I hope you make the right one for you and your children.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...
  50. Kids

    Be a role model to your kids and show them what you need to do when someone disrespects them.

    GD Star Rating
    loading...