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When did you leave home? Or are you still there? Much has been said about the fact that Gen Y are stubbornly refusing to be shoved out of their comfy nests. But why? Is it really because their parents have pandered to their every whim in the hope of keeping them close? Or are economic pressures making it impossible to go it alone?

Today, Mamamia reader and contributor Lucy Ormonde, who is indeed 23, casts some light for us on being Gen Y and leaving home, or rather staying at home.  She writes

Six years out of high school, in another time or another country I’d be married with a couple of kids. But at 23-years-old I’m childless, unattached and I still live at home.

And that’s fine with me.

In the past few years, a favourite topic amongst newsreaders and newspapers has been Gen Ys, like myself, who are staying at home longer than what was previously known as ‘normal.’ If you believe everything you hear, we’re selfish, we’re spoilt and we’re lazy. We play too much X-Box and we like living at home if only for the laundry facilities.  We’re kidults (yes that is a word) and we’re delaying adulthood by refusing to grow up.

Well, I don’t agree.

I live with my mum. It’s just the two of us and it works. I ­don’t have an X-Box, I can do my own washing and I boil a mean pot of pasta. Many of my friends – who have jobs and know how to use stoves – also live at home with their parents.

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So let’s get down to the facts of why Y.

Like careers, marriage and having children, moving out is just another part of life that’s being delayed in this ironically fast and crazy world. Gen Ys are not lazy. They’re just living a life that takes a vastly different path than it did 10, 20 or 50 years ago. Gone are the days when parents patted their 18-year-old children on the back and showed them the way to the front gate. The dynamics of parent-child relationships are changing and nowadays staying at home is accepted, albeit encouraged, by the parents who house us.

There are many reasons for us to stay at home, most of which are based on money. Unlike those before us, we’re entering the workforce in an era that’s synonymous with an impossible-to-break-into housing market, high university debts and low cost airline carriers. Gen Ys aren’t silly. We’ve realised we can save hundred of dollars a week in rent and instead we’re putting in it high interest savings accounts (or spending it on clothes and the aforementioned Jetstar.)

We get the best of both worlds when we live at home. We live independent lives but come home to the warmth of the family house. It’s kind of like Packed to the Rafters but with less perfect bed hair. Sure we live with our parents, but this doesn’t mean that as the younger generation we act as children. No. That luxury ended around the same time our pocket money did.

Our parents aren’t our “parents” anymore. They’re more like our friends, roommates even. If they really wanted us to move out they’d charge us rent or find the number of a good locksmith. But they like having us at home as much as we like being there. They can, and do, relinquish household duties and assign them to us. And they LOVE having IT assistance only a shout away down the hall.

Of course living at home has its less than perfect moments. There’s having to introduce boyfriends to your parents earlier than would otherwise be required. And then there’s reintroducing them at the breakfast table. But that’s just what I like to call being part of a modern family.

I  love living at home. I like the comfort. I like the interaction. And yes, I like the little the perks that come with being an adult, but not the adult in the family home.  Like expensive cheeses in the fridge and the absence of water and electricity bills. I like the bedding. My friend Pippa likes having pets without responsibility. My friend Meg likes the shower gel. (Meg has just moved home after a two-year renting stint, showering with brand-less soap.)

Will I ever move out? Of course I will, but finding the right time will be difficult. I need to do it when it’s right for me and not by a general opinion of what’s ‘normal.’ For now, I don’t see what the rush is. I could prove my independence and rent an apartment, but my independent reality would be far from an episode of The Secret Life of Us. Also, if move out my mum will be living on her own. While she’s fine with that, it doesn’t sit well with me.

And besides, why would I move out when the laundry facilities are this good?

When did you move out of home ? Was it your decision or your parents? And if you have kids at home – do you think you will want them to leave when they finish school?

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  1. lani93

    I love this post and don’t know how I missed it when I was first put up. So I shall comment on it anyway even though it was put up a while ago.
    I’m turning 19 at the end of March and definately still live at home. I’m moving back in with my dad in the next week, and have bounced between my mum and my dad’s place the last few years, depending on who’s place my parents thought was better for me to be living in at the time, eg. mum’s doing a lot of shift work this year and you’re going into year 12, you need to go stay with dad.
    My mum moved out when she was 16. Home was safe, but emotionally trying. Her view has always been that it’s appropriate to live at home until your mid twenties, and she’s made it very clear she won’t be happy if I move out without significant savings. Shit happens, and you have to pay for it. My parents also can’t afford to support me financially in any way other then the odd twenty every now and then if I move out.
    I have paid board since I was 16 years old, regardless of whether I was living with mum or dad.
    I must say that I don’t agree with young adults who work, study and live at home without board. It’s lazy, regardless of how many chores they do around the house. Of course, work changes and sometimes the board amount needs to be adjusted, but board should always be paid. I think it’s just basic respect and consideration.
    I’m not jealous of people how live away from home and are financially supported by their parents. I lived in the country and if you want to go to uni, you have to move. A few of my friends are moving for uni in the next month,
    and I know one of them will be supported by her parents, and good on them for being able to do that. But after a few months to settle in, she will be expected to get a job and cover some of her own costs.

    I think everyone’s situation in different, but pampering is never a good way. to go. You can live at home and still learn valuable life lessons. But not if you have everything handed to you for years on end.

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  2. Young American

    I found this posting by searching “I live at home.” I am 23, going on 24, and I still live at home. I do not save money for travel or expensive junk (to each his own). I am trying to get my masters so I can get a good job, and the job market is very competitive. I have a part-time job at a library, and in order to be promoted I have to have my degree, unless I can find a full-time job with a bachelors, and those are very few and far between. I want to be a librarian because I love working there and it is what I want; I am not about to sacrifice all of that just because I should have some kind of “real” experience that society places on young people, and I told myself I would do whatever it takes or work however long to be happy. My parents both work jobs they were forced into and I am grateful that I am able to have the room and support to pursue what I want in life. It doesn’t take a genius to pay utility bills, only someone who makes enough money to do so. It is very hard to do that in today’s current condition. Ten or twenty years ago, it would have been easier for me to graduate and get a job. I am not spoiled and I work very hard to achieve my goals. Please don’t judge people who live at home.

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  3. The Original Camille

    well, deep breath, my mum brought me here from France when I was eight, and went back when I was 17, telling me she did not want me to live w her anymore.
    It was horrible, I had no family in this country, and my French was not good enough to study with, so I was stuck here.
    I was lucky that could get Austudy, and it covered my fees so I could live on campus at uni. But it was very hard, cos my home moved out of me.
    I watched my friend live at home until 30, then her parents bought her flat which they renovated for her, then she moved in pregnant with her boyfriend, and they do 2 hours of babysitting for her every day. Me jealous? Not much….
    I think Gen Y would move out more easily if they could get Austudy/ Youth allowance more easily.

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  4. GiGi

    Such a great article!
    I’m almost 25, still at home. I’ve just finished uni so I’m not working full time yet. When I am I might be able to afford to move out, but probably wont. I will though start offering to pay some sort of cheap board, because my parents struggle at times, and I dont pay for the internet etc, so it’s only fair.
    My brother lives overseas, so it’s me, mum and dad. I get along well with both of them. My mum and I are close but we fight like anyone else and sometimes I want to live elsewhere. But like Lucy, I dont want to leave her alone. She works twice a week so she’d be at home by herself the other 5 days. She suffers pretty badly from depression so she doesnt leave the house unless I take her. And if I leave I know she will suffer with “empty nest syndrome” which I dont think I could bare. So until I know that mum will be okay, I’ll stay at home and I’ll love it.

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  5. allwaswell

    I had to move out of home when I was 18 because my uni was 5 hours away from my home town and I fully support myself with no financial support from my dad.

    Sure, it’s been really tough when my work was only giving me enough hours to cover rent plus a little bit that was put away for bills and I’ve spend A LOT of time really hungry, I wouldn’t change it for anything.

    Saying that, living with my step mother made living at home quite miserable for me so anything was better than living at home.

    There are only two things that make me want to move back home (if it wasn’t 5hours away from uni): food cooked for me most nights and other people to help with the cleaning. I am now working full time and at uni full time so never have time to clean or cook.

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  6. kate

    I moved to Sydney from Perth when I was 25 and lived with my dad for 2 years rent free. Dad was in Sydney for business for 5 years and his work paid the rent. Prior to that I actually lived alone in perth in the house i bought when I was 23. We shared domestic duties, shopping etc. Anyway long story short…. i really cherish those two years i got to spend with my dad and i know he did too. Lucy i think your very smart! you obviously have a wonderful relationship with your mum.

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  7. Sam

    I am so jealous of people my age who live at home rent-free. As soon as I got a job, I was paying rent. So, despite having a great relationship with both of my parents, there wasn’t really any financial incentive to stay.

    I was 18 when I moved out and it was sweet. I got to cook whenever I wanted, have parties when I wanted and have as many sleepovers as I wanted!! I love the independence and I love that I am responsible for myself. I don’t have to answer to anybody!! But also, if there are dirty dishes I’m the only one to blame (except the BF, who now lives with me)

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  8. A

    Lucy, I’ve just been reading your blog and you are incredibly witty and talented. Don’t let anyone’s comments get you down, from the looks of things you have enough life experience in car incidents alone! (Don’t worry I’m not judging, a pole recently drove into me so I know how you feel)

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  9. emma, age 19

    sorry this comment is a bit late for this post!
    but just found the topic interesting. I’m 19 and just finished first year uni. I go to uni in Canberra but I’m from sydney, so during the year I am not living at home as I am living in a college in canberra. however, I still live at home, as i’m at home in all the uni holidays including the three months we get off now over summer. most of my friends from school live at home still, I only know one girl who as moved out into her own place. most of their older siblings live at home. I think today a lot of young people studying at uni live at home, but they will move out eventually!
    for some people moving out of home is a scary step, we have been living at home all our lives, we can’t be expected to suddenly just move out when high school finishes, or at least I think so, unless we really want to. for me, going to college is kind of like a transition I guess, so when I’m finished with uni I will be ready to properly move out! but I know my home will always be there

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  10. miski

    i´m gen x and was 31 (35 now) when i moved out of home. my parents wanted me to stay at home so i could save money and buy an apartment while it could still be afforded in nsw. I thank my lucky stars that i had parents who where willing to let me stay at home and allowed me to save money, ifnot i don´t think i would have ever have been able to have payed my apartment off. I don´t know how i would be able to afford anything this day an age. Stay home and save it´s the only way.

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  11. MBee

    Lucy I hope you’re not taking any of the nasty comments seriously. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but I think it’s gone a bit far..

    I just turned 24 and still live at home and have no plans to move out just yet. I’m 2 years out of uni in a job that pays minimum wage so there’s no way I can afford to go anywhere right now! I love hanging out with my family and get along really well with my siblings – why should I move out and experience the so called ‘real world’ on my own and be lonely in a tiny shoebox struggling to feed myself when I thoroughly enjoy the time I spend with my family, I can save (a measly amount but I’m trying!) and I contribute to the household chores on a daily basis even though I’m out the door at 7 and home at 6!

    I know I’m onto a good thing but my no means take it for granted.

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    • Lucy Ormonde

      Thanks for the comment MBee. I know exactly how you feel! x

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  12. Tess

    Now Lucy, you be sure and jot down all the pearls of wisdom the ladies below have so graciously bestowed on you. Learn from them. Be motivated by their dedication – considering the magnitude of the chip on their collective shoulder, supporting the weight of your head would be a feat in itself, let alone typing. That plus the burden of parenting an entire generation – it’s any wonder they can get out of bed in the morning.

    Now quit farting around with things like furthering your education with a post-graduate degree, proactively pursuing your career and opening your mind with travel.

    Do the right thing princess. Get 4 bar jobs, stop socializing and make something of yourself – move out. Sure, you might be miserable and broke but you too will then be able to weigh in on debates such as this one with as much condescension as the lucky ladies below.

    I loved your article, it was clever and interesting as I’m sure you are – well done. Haters to the left.

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  13. ruflles

    Wow lots of fiery comments!

    I can see both sides of the argument. I’m Gen Y, and I lived at home until 22, rent free. I sometimes worked up to 3 jobs while doing full time uni in order to save to travel and to maintain my lifestyle (car costs, phone bill, etc). At no time did my parents ask for rent – I was very lucky they were in the financial position to do so. In return I helped with the household cleaning, cooked at least once a week, and generally helped out when I could.

    I’ve since been out of home twice – once overseas, living by myself, and currently with my best friend for nearly a year now. I think it makes you appreciate the comforts of home more – I like going to my parents house because they always have a full fridge!! But I would loathe to move back home because of the positives of living outside the family unit – having friends over whenever I want, having my boyfriend stay over (this is a HUGE no-no at my parent’s house), living close to the city, not being draqgged into familiy squabbles, etc.

    I don’t think my “real life skills” have been enhanced THAT much by leaving home – while living at home I was fiercely independent, and I think enterring the work force impacts on your growth more than where you sleep at night. That being said it does really irk me when my friends who live at home brag about never having cleaned a toilet, or not knowing how to cook. I guess I more feel sorry for them, as life will be tough without their cleaner, or mummy-as-maid when they finally leave home.

    One of things that I don’t think many people touched on is the impact of living arrangements on your family relationships. I actually get along better with my siblings (no fights about hogging the bathroom, being parked in, being woken up by someone’s inconsiderateness, etc). I also have a lot more respect for my Mum keeping the household running so seamlessly (this is a struggle during exam time for me – I work full time and study full time too).

    In the end, whatever works for you and your family is all that is important.

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  14. Laura

    Its definately better for ones growth to move out of home earlier. It forces you to be mature, make tough decisions, live with strange people, and do whatever you like! However if given the chance to live at home for financial reasons, take it!

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  15. Phoodie

    I think “leaving home” also has many cultural …um…..oh gosh so late, can barely type let alone THINK……you know like cultural influences….is that the word?!!?

    CHRIST

    What I am trying to say is that in SOME cultures parents (in general) say “see ya!” at 18 whereas in other cultures parents bawlllllllllll when their kids leave, and follow the kids to their new home with trays of food and boxes of toilet paper…… every week.

    I DEF come from a culture that relates to the latter description.

    Each to their own. Not trying to be fence-sitter but DEFINITELY think horses for courses.

    No one should say “your parents don’t want to look after you forever” or “your parents are dodgy cause they kicked you out”….whatever each family unit is comfortable with is the right thing.

    WHY AM I STILL UP AND ON THE ‘PUTE?!

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  16. Danielle

    Having read the posts, I don’t think its bitterness.

    For me, I’m not ‘bitter’ that my parents didn’t support me. I’m grateful. I’m grateful to have buggered up money early on and figured it out. I’m grateful that I knew about how to connect utilities and sign leases in my very early 20s. I think these people at home are missing out. I think they are missing out on real life. I think they are missing out on the best growth experiences. I think its a bit of a half life to know that mum will wash your work clothes if you get stuck – getting stuck is the best bit.

    And whilst being close to your parents is good, I’ve never been a fan of the idea that I’d be my daughters best friend/housemate when she was an adult.

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    • The Girl with the Pan Pipe Necklace

      What do you mean Gen Y are “missing out on real life”? As far as I’m concerned, they’re living in real life. Moving out is very expensive and if you’re not financially stable to do that – then you don’t do it. In fact, you’ll be a fool to move out w/o a sound income.

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  17. Danielle

    I just don’t get this.

    I have no intention of having my kids at home and underfoot after their 21st birthdays.

    Parents are entitled to have their freedom and their lives back again. I don’t believe I signed up to a ‘forever’ agreement when it comes to putting a roof over their heads if they are able to do so themeselves.

    I think i’m technically gen y by a month or so.

    I moved out at 17.5 when I finished year 12. I had two part time jobs working about 40 hours a week, full time uni and I got a flat on my own. After that I did share houses, back on my own etc. I never found it to be that expensive (and I’m only 7 years older than the original poster) I was earning about $500 a week and paying $200 in rent.

    It was a quick switch to this ‘stay at home forever’ crowd. I’m 30 and my sister is 27. We both left home when we finished school. Our other 2 sisters are 19 and 21 and my mother is desperately trying to offload them. They have to pay board (as they should because they work) but its too comfortable for them there in my opinion.

    I just don’t get it. Parents deserve their space. You might be their friends (I’m mates with my mum) but really, you are their parents, not their friends. Teach them how to manage money, sign a lease etc and shove them out!

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    • Gig

      Brilliant comment, Danielle!

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    • Anon

      Wow I think $200 a week rent is expensive! You must have had a nice place? I earn $800 a week and pay $120 a week rent in Melbourne, but I have the smallest room and my place is nothing special.
      Hats off to you for managing your money so well!

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    • The Original Camille

      as posted by Lucy, it sounds like her mum would be lonely withought her, so hee rleaving home would not be a case of mum ‘getting her life back.’ Where is the harm in this????

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  18. Guest

    A few more thoughts on this matter – unless you’re a ‘trust fund baby’ – if you take the path of least resistance by lingering at home because it’s ‘convenient’ it’s going to come back to bite you at some point.

    Unless you’re furiously saving, or stand to inherit money in your youth, or marry into richness – there’s going to be some kind of trade-off. Maybe the opportunity to be able to self-finance and build a family of your own will be compromised. (I think there’s good reason that up to one quarter of young adults are predicted to remain childless).

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  19. Maisy

    I am a solo parent and I am looking forward to living by myself. It’s still years away as I have a 15 year old who won’t finish school for another 3 years. (We’re in a country town so my children leave home to attend uni.) There will be a time of readjustment, but boy am I looking forward to being responsible for just me! I love my kids dearly and will miss them terribly, but there’s a huge up side to the situation.

    I’m not in a position to financially support my children when they’re at uni, so they’re going to be gathering those life skills early that so many other commenters have spoken of. And I’m sure, that like me at their age, they’ll be more than a little jealous of those that live at home and have ‘fun’ money.

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  20. Anna: mum of one

    so much judgement in the comments! IMO i am teaching my 16 year old daughter to be financially responsible – she has a part time job, pays her own mobile bill, her school costs (apart from fees, clothes, shoes, outings etc. Her youth allowance is left untouched so that she can buy a car when she gets her license.
    She cooks twice a week, helps with grocery shopping, washing, cleaning, ironing etc – the majority of pet care is her responsibility. I would be happy for her to stay at home while she studies or starts her chosen career because it is just the two of us and I would miss her terribly.
    To each their own – this is my way of doing it – if your way is different then so be it, it’s your choice.

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    • Guest

      Anna it sounds like you’re doing a remarkable job raising a considerate, capable, responsible and thoughtful young adult. I don’t think anyone would begrudge the idea of your daughter living at home – however there are certainly a fair share of ‘kidults’ clearly taking advantage of their parents. And I don’t blame the kids, I think the parents are inhibiting their children’s growth toward mature adulthood.

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  21. Myboyfriendisarockstar

    Oh wow, not sure why this post has stirred such a response? This reminds me of all the mummy-posts – why are we so judgemental of other people’s choices?

    I’m also 23 and living at home. I had a gap year and backpacked around Europe when I finished school. Since then, I have been studying a double degree in arts and law full time, working part time and doing a lot of volunteer work. I also took a year off to volunteer in a developing country, where I had the whole sharehouse experience (fun, but I wouldn’t rave about it like some folk on this post…).

    My other siblings are also in their early twenties and living at home while working and studying. They have also had some amazing overseas experiences. When we finish our studies and are working full time, we will leave. Until then, my parents are happy for us to stay at home board-free provided we help out around the house etc.

    My parents did not go to university (my dad did not finish high school). They are so proud of all we have achieved so far, and don’t mind helping to enable us to do things they never really got the chance to do (travel, study etc.) because they married and had children so young.

    My grandfather questioned my younger sister the other day, who is planning a crazy, epic trek in Europe for between when she completes her degree and starts a graduate role. My mum immediately jumped to her aid, and retorted that she would rather have interesting children then be ‘boring’ like herself and my dad.

    I’m so grateful to have the opportunity to do these things. And to be honest, I do enjoy living at home with my family! It’s a big, chaotic house with people coming in and out all the time. My brother is in his teens, and loves having his sisters around. While my sisters and I aren’t often at home, we still go to the movies and bowling and watch DVDs together. I’ll miss that when I leave.

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  22. Gig

    ‘The dynamics of parent-child relationships are changing and nowadays staying at home is accepted, albeit encouraged, by the parents who house us.’

    Lucy, well, you got one bit right, your parents are housing you. Whether or not they want their whole lives dedicated to bringing up children is another matter. Many, most, parents jump for joy when they finally have the house to themselves after twenty years of nappies, wiping bums, school fees, teenage tantrums and the rest.

    Have you thought about giving your parents a break, and getting the hell out of there and trying to stand on your own two feet? I mean, are you thinking of them, or just your own selfish self?

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    • Lana

      Gig, have you thought that maybe Lucy’s mum really wants her there? If you read the post you will see that Lucy lives with her mum not both her parents.

      My parents never wanted us to leave – they accepted it when we did but certainly they never jumped for joy.

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      • Gig

        I guess, as Phoodie says above, it’s horses for courses. I had a more than well protected, cared for upbringing. Maybe I was more than eager to move out to prove my independence. It’s also a generational thing. Most of my school year either moved out into shared accommodation, or left town to go to uni down south. Living in a country town always meant you were programmed to fly the coop as soon as possible. Even if you stayed at home for a few years, you still made that exodus to Sydney or Melbourne. It was as much a rite of passage as schoolies is now, only much more productive.

        Of course, today, especially in the larger cities there is the issue of high rents. I suppose it’s not that easy to rent a house in a nice suburb these days, with a few mates chipping in for the rent. To show how rents have changed in Sydney in the last thirty years, (gawd, that long ago!). My girlfriend and I moved from Queensland to a flat in Bronte. $55 a week. One gig for me paid $50. We both worked. The stupid thing is, the agent told us the flat was for sale, $25,000. Silly me couldn’t comprehend such an amount.

        Single friends of ours rented a house in Wollstonecraft. They were probably all on the dole, playing wine bar gigs, but could live in a sprawling gorgeous corner block house five minutes from North Sydney.

        Yes, times have changed, and in this case, not for the better.

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        • Ruth

          Gig, rent these days seems to be anywhere from 120-250 a week!! and that 120 is only if you are lucky, there is a way to make it work… but i just wanted to show you the maths of how times have changed.

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    • Anon

      I didn’t realise the whole point of having kids was to kick them out. Frankly, my brother and sister lived at home until 24 and 23 respectively and as a family we had the best times living together and sharing our lives. When they moved out, they were financially secure with a lifetime of good memories.

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      • Gig

        Anon, it’s not ‘kicking them out’ once they are adults. It’s like a law of nature. The baby birds grow up and are thrown out of the nest, to learn how to fend for themselves. Penguins, too. Lots of animals. There is a time to be a child and a time to be an adult. The only reason, other than being a carer for a parent, to stay at home, should be rent or mortgage issues. All other excuses are presuming that your parents don’t have their own lives, that they don’t want their own life, and that they’ll spend another ten years cooking and washing for you, instead of enjoying retirement or time alone as a fifty-something, sixty something couple.

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    • Tulip

      Don’t most parents convey a sense of whether or not they want you to be around? I think its quite a big issue, and really, if they wanted you out surely they would say? I think it would be discussed, not assumed. I know my parents would mention it.

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      • Gig

        Tulip, that’s the last thing most caring parents would say. Stop being a spoiled brat and move out. They’ll protest, maybe, but ask them a few years down the track. They’ll be happy as Larry that you set yourself up. They’ll probably be even more happy to help financially. You aren’t cutting the family ties, but you are cutting the apron strings.

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        • A

          Gig, what makes you think you are so clued on as to know what everybody’s parents want? Many people actually do enjoy having their children around- whether they’re adults or not.

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    • The Original Camille

      you’ve been wiping bums for twenty years? No wonder you want the kids to “get the hell out of there”.

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  23. JosieY

    Why is it that just because ‘I’ have had it ‘tough’ everyone else has to as well? It’s great that some people managed to study full time and work as well, but some of us can’t do that, for various reasons. I moved out at 19 (to live with my now hubby) but my parents helped out financially until I finished my degree. My brother lived at home until he finished his 5 year dual degree, I don’t know if he paid board but I know he did a lot of jobs around the house. Why all the bitterness people? I am hurt by a lot of the comments that have basically derided those who lived at home for longer than what some viewed as acceptable — can’t we just allow people to be different without being threatened by their differences?

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    • eloise

      Exactly … and give a bit of thought to the many and varied stories, and all those individuals with their complex reasons for making the choices they make – and stop with the damn labels!

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    • Anon

      Really, the only people being bitter are the ones who left home early and are no doubt resentful to those who had it easier than they did.

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  24. Melissa

    I moved out when I started full time work (24-ish). I had been doing my own washing and a disproportionate amount of cleaning and cooking since my mum died when I was 14, so it was hardly the ‘free food and laundry’ line so many people go on about.

    Living with my dad was awful. I wish I’d sucked it up and left earlier.

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  25. Sharon

    Im sorry but Lucy seems like a spoilt brat who instead of paying rent is spending it on clothes and ‘Jetstar’ travel…

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    • Gig

      I’m inclined to agree with you.

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      • Diorella

        I’m inclined to think that you’re both being really unfair…

        To everyone who taking part in ‘Lucy bashing’ – have you stopped to think about the fact that Lucy is unattached and how this may be (whether subconsciously or otherwise) influencing her decision to remain at home? Why does it have to be all about the money aspect????

        I myself am 23 and living at home. And the main reason for this is because I am single. I’ve been working full time since I graduated uni at 21 and my choice to say at home has far less to do with wanting to be able to spend on ‘clothes and Jetstar travel’ and more about the longing to move out with a partner. I can’t help that notice a vast majority of people who say they moved before the age of 23 did so with a boy…In my opinion, there’s massive difference (emotionally) between moving out as a single and moving out with a significant other…

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        • Danielle

          Gosh, I hope they didn’t move out with boys.

          Best years of my life from 18 = 23 living on my own and in share houses before I met my husband.

          If anything, I think there is more reason to move out if you are single – get out there and experience life!

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        • Lulu

          “my choice to say at home has far less to do with wanting to be able to spend on ‘clothes and Jetstar travel’ and more about the longing to move out with a partner.”

          Moving out with a partner is easier financially, but I think it’s a good idea to spend time independent of your parents *and* a partner. Of those people who ticked Yes to the ‘ending a relationship’ box in the “What are you putting off?” survey, I wonder how many just can’t face the idea of being on their own.

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    • Lana

      This post is not about judging Lucy or her experience, and in fact you don’t really know her to judge her from 600 odd words so please remember our dinner party comment rules. No personal attacks

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  26. AJ

    I’m 25 and after living out of home for a couple of years am back in with my mum. I would LOVE to be out renting again but the main reason I’m here is because Mum’s really sick.
    At the start of this year I finished my masters (which meant the end of my scholarship and tutoring work) and after travelling for a bit came back home. I was also unemployed for a good few months so it was fantastic that I had the option of staying with Mum.
    But now I’m really here because I can give her so much help and support when I live in the same house. She can’t drive right now and has days where she can barely leave her bed, so I’m glad I can be here to do all the things she needs.
    When I was an undergraduate student I just couldn’t afford to move out. I had too many hours at uni, and not enough time or energy to work more than 20 hours a week on top of it. And retail does not pay well at all. Since I was 18 though my brother and I paid around $100 a week board.
    Money is a huge reason most of my friends stayed in the parental home. Renting is just SO expensive – even when you’re in a tiny share-house.
    It’s a pity though, because it is great to gain that independence… even though my mum is great company, I can’t wait to move out again.

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  27. Leanne

    I moved out of home at 19. Straight into the marriage home. Unlike 3 of my siblings, I’ve never been back.

    My two Gen Y are 25 and 18. There is NO WAY I would accept or encourage them to stay at home if I had a choice. Miss 25 moved in with her then boy at age 18, and has come back twice.

    Miss 18 has moved out, lives on Youth Allowance hand to mouth but is still toughing it out.

    Miss 25 has just moved back home, having split with her boy and with no where else to go.

    I can’t wait for her to move out again. I love being an empty nester and the less time they spend at home, the less stressful I find my life.

    Don’t get me wrong, I love them both to bits. But please! Life isn’t all dad’s doing the washing for me, mum’s cooking my dinner, I think I’ll sleep late everyday. They are adults, but sometimes I think when they’re living at home it’s a fact conveniently forgotten.

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  28. missb

    Late to the party but I think living out of home and renting is an invaluable experience, mainly in managing your finances. Of course, it’s also great because you can do your own thing without mum or dad around and if you have flatmates it also gives you experience in conflict resolution, bargaining, blackmail and threats!

    It’s all very well to say “I’m staying at home so I can save for a house” but what happens once you buy the house and are in it and all of a sudden you’ve got a mortgage and regular bills coming in that are in YOUR name and need paying? Plus groceries and other expenses and of course you want to be able to spend money on fun things too. Even just doing the grocery shop can be an exercise in budgeting – “Can I afford porterhouse this week or is it chuck steak on the menu? Toilet paper is on special but do I really need 3 18 packs of it?” etc.

    Contributing board and money towards bills at home is one thing but when it’s your house and your money funding that house it’s completely different. It’s much harder to tell the real estate agent or electricity company that you’re a bit short this month and can you pay them next week than it is your parents. And sometimes you have to forgo the $30 wine or the new pair of shoes because you got the winter electricity bill and it’s damn high. Sucks but that’s life.

    I should state that the above is mostly referring to those working full time. If you’re studying or have just graduated (I’ve been there and know that it’s often hard to find full time work straight out of uni) and only working part time/casually then I don’t see the problem with staying at home as long as you help out in some way – washing, cleaning, gardening, whatever.

    I do think if you’re working full time you really need to contribute financially around the house if you must stay at home, but really you should be thinking about moving out if there are no circumstance requiring you to stay at home (sick or incapacitated relatives, low family income, and so forth)

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    • Gig

      missb, I reckon that’s the most reasoned comment of all. Thumbs up!

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  29. CM

    Reading others’ comments there seems to be a theme running through alot of them re saving money.

    Is everyone really saving for a house deposit when so many adults don’t buy a house until their 30s? Or is it saving for travel? Or is it really just saving up for a big night out or a pair of beautiful shoes?

    Whichever it is I wonder how many kids living at home into their 20s or 30s consider that these things they are saving for are therefore purchased for them by their parents in the form of subsidised living? Regardless of how much board kids pay it is NEVER the same amount as paying all bills, rent, food, mortgage etc in the “real” world.

    My children are getting to late teens and the expectation is noone will be home by 25. As much as I love them I think my job as their mum is to set them up for adulthood. Whether that’s managing their own finances or feeding and cleaning themselves.

    Very interesting discussion, though. Another polar opposites debate – love it.

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  30. anon

    My kids still live at home, they’re great. They help around the house and do things like empty the dishwasher and load the washing machine and wipe down the benches… Did I mention they were 22months and 3 years old? I’m teaching them these things because one day I want them gone. (by the way i don’t force them to do it, they enjoy helping and they are fully supervised with the dishwasher especially)

    Things might change by the time they are “kidults” but right now I think if they stay a day after they finish year 12 it will be under the strictest of terms and must involve some sort of further education. I love my kids to death, but I think of it as my job as a parent to eventually teach them self sufficiency and I don’t think that’s possible if you live at home for too long once you are an adult. I would think I had failed at that if they stayed home for too long.

    If you’re at home then contributing with the cleaning, board etc is great, but so much is learned about the real world in terms of dealing with people, money, priorities when you move out. A lot of people here have said that those who stay at home are cheating themselves out of amazing life experience and I have to agree. I will worry about the mischief my kids get up to when they have moved on from me, but I would worry more about their capabilities as a adult if they stayed :)

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  31. Luc

    I’m really surprised about the level of antagonism towards gen Y. I teach at a (regional) uni, and I NEVER think my students are lazy. They all juggle uni work and paid employment – even those getting the measly study allowances work as well. A lot of my students do it pretty tough, and I’m quite proud of them for getting through uni, whether they live at home or not.

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  32. Lana

    Deck the halls with boughs of holly tra la la – — trying desperately to infuse you with some Christmas spirit – let go of the anger and sing with me xxx

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    • Mia

      I’m singing Lana! Can you hear me!

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  33. Sarah

    I don’t have a problem with gen y-ers living at home. Two examples spring to mind. 1. my coworker who pays 50 bucks a week rent and lives in a shed in his parents’ backyard. Yes, he saves some long term, but he also earns a great deal more than me, and is constantly bitching about having no money. 2. My best friend who lives in her mother’s bosom. Mummy still minces up vegetables and “hides” them in the food so daughter will eat them. This friend has had at least… 3 overseas holidays since we left school 2 years ago, has access to daddy’s credit card, shops in designer stores, and… you guessed it, constantly bitches about having no money.

    So, yeah, go ahead and live at home. Save money. But I don’t want to hear that you can’t afford a bus ticket, much less a drink on my birthday. I work long hours, pay half my wages in rent, plus all my own bills. I’m not eligible for youth allowance because I’m not a student. I’m what’s known as “the working poor”. But I still make the best of it. I still intend to be OS in the next 12 months. So stay at home as long as you want, but don’t expect me to listen to you complain about how hard your life is.

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    • Jane

      God, your best friend sounds like one of my ‘friends’. I recall her telling me a few months ago, “I fucking hate my mum. She forgot to pay my phone bill and now I can’t text”

      Wah.

      This girl’s mum also brings her breakfast in bed. ‘Nuff said.

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      • picardie.girl

        Ugh, what a nasty thing to say about her mum! And over something so trivial. Yuck.

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      • The Original Camille

        oh, that’s awesome. what did you say in return? Did you offer to ring DOCS?

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  34. Tea

    I haven’t read all the comments below so I don’t know if this has already been touched on (don’t have time to read the comments!) but I think that one point to make is that is very difficult to support yourself financially if living out of home. Youth Allowance is very little, especially living in a big city. My YA includes Rent Assistance of about $80 a fortnight and I’m paying $200 a week. My share house is not at all extravagant. That’s just how much rent is in Sydney. It’s also very difficult to qualify for YA in the first place. It’s true that you can work but it’s difficult to earn enough to live comfortably. It also comes at a cost to studying and the kind of uni experience I think most people would like to have. I’m doing law and I have an HD average – that wouldn’t be possible if I had to work 3 days/wk (uni recommends that we do about 32 hours of study/wk on top of class – seriously!!). I know marks aren’t everything but it’s a competitive employment market and you need more than just a string of passes for a lot of jobs these days.

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  35. Bowerbird

    Lucy, thanks for your story, I enjoyed it. I’m thinking you probably didn’t expect the response you got, but I hope you’re letting it just flow on past.

    I’ve read some of the comments, but they started doing my head in, so I stopped. I think its really interesting to think about and discuss changes in the way society operates over time. Personally my mind shies away from the thought of living with my mother, but that’s me (OK, and her) – and its one of the reasons I find it intriguing to read other people’s stories.

    I can’t understand at all why people feel personally offended about how other people live their lives. Different times, different circumstances, different people. Who knows whether this trend is good or bad? It just is.

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    • Djella

      well said. I’m struggling to understand the level of passion with this. what I choose to do (move out of home to study in another city) has very little with what others choose.

      It *is* interesting to see the trend, but I don’t know why we all have to justify our choices, or see one choice as ‘better’ than another.

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    • picardie.girl

      That’s very academic of you, Bowerbird… One of the things I learnt in university linguistics was that it is *descriptive*, not *prescriptive* (as many people think). We just observe the trends as they happen, not try to change them or label them as wrong.

      From what I have read, thankfully Lucy seems to have a great head on her shoulders — her responses to some pointed comments have been very neutralising. Good on you, Lucy!

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  36. suki

    There’s no issue. Freedom of choice. But, I do wonder if this generation will end up being more conservative as a result of embedding themselves so snuggly with the parentals for so long.

    Share housing with people from your own age group significantly expands your circle- for better or worse- bringing with it new ideas and attitudes different from your own and your immediate peer group.

    You behave differently and take more risks outside of the parental home and lifestyle. No one has written an “he died with a felafel in his hand” exposay about living with mum and dad complete with hilarious anecdotes….yet. Mother and Son?!

    Lovely to go back for stints at home when you are young and stuck (unexpected redundancy/returning from OS etc). But it all seems to come back to Australia’s obesession with buying houses. Live a bit kids. You are only young for a very short time!

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    • yos

      Good point about ideas and attitudes.

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    • Allie

      I agree.

      Since I moved out my social circle has expanded and I’ve met some interesting, inspiring friends I hope I have forever. It’s also challenged me as a person to be more tolerant and yet also more assertive, exposed me to people who think differently and helped me understand who I am and they are. It’s also been heaps of fun!! If I still lived at home I might have more money but I’d have less friends and less tolerance and maturity.

      Moving out is about experience, not just about money. It’s considered a rite of passage for a reason.

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  37. DMK

    Look, I think if the parents are okay with it or encourage it, then I don’t really see the issue with living at home.

    I still help out around the house, financially and with work, help take care of my sister, am able to save enough for a deposit on a house, go to university and not have to drool after items that cost more than $5 and am happy.

    My parents are also happy with the arrangement. I’m grateful for their support; I know the sacrifices that they make for me, and will do my best to do them proud.

    Living at home doesn’t make you lazy, but instead can be a great opportunity.

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  38. Allie

    I have another question: at what age is it socially unacceptable to live at home? After 25? And why?

    I know a couple of young men living at home at around 29 and 30 and while nobody among our generation (Y) batted an eyelid at this when they were 25, by the time they were pushing 30 it started to be seen as something a bit weird. There seems to be a sense that living out of home, coping with housemates, being self-reliant and financially independent is a rite of passage we’re all expected to have gone through by a certain point. And all WANT to go through.

    By the time the late 20s, early 30s came around it was starting to look a little maladjusted to still prefer to live with your parents rather than having your own space.

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    • Guest

      I’d certainly think twice about dating a guy who still lived at home with his parents -unless he was saving super hard to secure a home deposit. And I mean REALLY saving for his own home – not just frittering his income on mobile phone bills, nights out, fancy shoes.

      I believe once you have left your studies, you should be responsible for paying your own way through life. If you choose to remain at home you should be an ‘adult participant’ in family life. If you eat the expensive cheeses, then REPLACE them. Take turns to cook family meals. Contribute your share of household expenses.

      My dad is 60 something and STILL at home after several failed marriages, hmm, I think there is a connection there… He STILL can’t look after himself and refuses to tidy his bedroom or make his bed. My grandmother confessed she regrets spoiling him so much because now he’s a bit of a lost cause.

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      • yos

        I don’t want to open a can of worms here, but yes that is a bad flipside especially dangerous to men. I kind of agree with Allie that pushing 30 is starting to look bad. Guys are often terribly spoiled by their mums, I really don;t think that’s a good thing. Reminds me of Everybody Loves Raymond. I’m sure it happens for girls, but the girls I know who have stayed at home past their teens have always been big contributors, whereas the guys I have known in the same situation do kind of just relish having everything done for them.

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    • fee283

      the guy i’m seeing recently moved back home with his widowed mum [he's an only child] after his landlord wanted to move back into his apartment. he’s 32 & i have no problem with it, mainly because he has lived independantly for the 8yrs prior to that [at least]

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      • Allie

        Yeah, that situation is quite different and not the kind I’m talking about.

        Similarly, I’ve a 31-yr-old friend who has just bought a flat with her mum as they both needed somewhere to live. She’s not wrapt about living back with her mum in her 30s but circumstances made it necessary and she’s viewing it as an opportunity to own a flat and spend some time with her elderly mum. Her mum is 74 and already making escape routes to her friends’ places for when her daughter bugs her!

        I mean the never-moved-out type of person, or those who move back in for no real reason.

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    • Nicole

      I’m 24 and I would not date a guy who lives with his parents. When I was a bit younger (between 19 and 22) I was dating a guy 2 years older than me who lived with his parents and it was just WEIRD.
      Mummy still bought her sons condoms. Wtf?!
      He could never understand why I never wanted to stay at his place, and instead crash at my apartment- where there were no parents!

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      • Lulu

        “Mummy still bought her sons condoms. Wtf?!”

        Oh.My.God.

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        • Nicole

          I. KNOW.

          He could never understand why I thought that was totally weird.

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      • Sharon

        I don’t see that as a bad thing. My boyfriend (23) still lives with his Mum and i actually really appreciate how much he cares for her.
        She was a single Mum and raised him alone and they struggled through life. My boyfriend now pays for all their bills and petrol (his Mum doesn’t pay a cent). He does it so he can repay her for all her hard work. He also pays for a maid and gardener so that his Mum doesn’t have to do any housework. I don’t think that’s lazy at all.

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        • Nicole

          So I take it that if he’s paying everything, she IS NOT BUYING HIS CONDOMS??
          Completely different scenario.

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        • The Original Camille

          it sounds like she is guilt-tripping him slightly. I mean, it was her job to support him while growing up, she did it, fine, but now to expect her 23 yo to pay for a maid and gardener?

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    • missb

      I think living at home in your late 20s if you’ve never moved out is a bit odd. I’m going to agree with after 25. Most of us have finished uni and are working full time by age 25.

      I also think that if you’ve moved back home for a reason and that reason has passed (example: you lost your job, moved home, found another job and are still at home despite earning an income again) then it’s also a bit odd. I have a friend in that situation. Moved back home around age 26 as she got in a lot of debt, sorted that out, kept working full time and is still at home because she likes the lifestyle. Ehhhh.

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    • Melissa

      Agree completely. By this stage you should be out and supporting yourself, even if you’re still studying (eg, PhD students), but I know in some cultures (I’m thinking Italian here) it’s completely normal to live at home until you get marrried/move in with a partner for the first time, even if that is 32!

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  39. Allie

    No matter how long somebody lives at home, at some point they will end up sharehousing. I have a message for the parents, that comes from years of living with other young adults: MAKE YOUR TEENAGE AND YOUNG ADULT CHILDREN CONTRIBUTE TO HOUSEWORK.

    If you don’t, you will have raised an un-housetrained person whose lack of life skills will not go down well with their future flatmates.

    So far I’ve experienced the following from people in their mid-late 20s whose mummies did everything for them:

    Oh, you can’t leave a wet towel over the heater and then go out?
    Yes, you do need to empty the lint filters from heaters and clothes dryers OR THEY CATCH FIRE.
    Um, it’s quite expensive to leave ALL the lights on and then use the dryer to dry one singlet. On a sunny day.
    It’s your turn to clean the bathroom: “Ok, um, what do I do?”
    It’s your turn to tidy up the garden: “Oh. What do I do?”
    “There’s a spider in the bathroom: What do I do?”
    It’s good to lock doors when you go out. Closing them first is a good start.
    After living with me for 6 months: “Do we have a dustpan?”
    Yes, if you leave rotten fruit in the fruit bowl it attracts nasty creatures. That you have to then get rid of.
    No, toilet paper rolls do not replenish themselves, just like bins don’t empty themselves.
    “I broke the back window – what do I do?” (Gosh, I don’t know, get it fixed??)

    Living at home til whatever age is fine as long as it doesn’t mean young people are not developing self-sufficiency. I orginially thought it was laziness until I realised they just didn’t know these things because someone else always did it for them. Which is fine when you’re 3, and much less ok two decades later.

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    • AlyssaKT

      My last flatmate asked me if there was a vacuum cleaner when she moved out – after 6 months. Hmmm

      And, true to most of them, washing powder, cling wrap and foil, dishwashing liquid, paper towel, soap, garbage bags, cooking oil, rice, salt, pepper, milk, Vegemite and butter, all seem to be products they feel are supplied by me, and they never have to purchase for themselves.
      If I’m lucky enough to have my Vegemite replaced after they eat 4/5 of it, they generally polish off the replacement jar as well.
      Don’t even get me started on breakage of my glassware / dishes…

      But I don’t know if that’s necessarily Gen Y – it’s just selfishness mixed with thoughtlessness.

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      • Allie

        I feel your pain! I guess what I’m getting at though is not so much lazy, selfish housemates as young adults who have left home with no concept of how to maintain and contribute to a household. Although maybe the two are closely linked…

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        • yos

          Totally agree Allie, nothing worse than someone who doesn’t know how to look after their living quarters. Parents aren’t doing them any favours.

          It’s not just Gen Y, trust me I know.

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          • Allie

            No, I’m on the cusp of Y and X, have lived with both and can attest that both these generations can be guilty of it!

            As you say, yos, their parents are not doing them any favours.

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  40. Lana

    I am weighing in on this one because I just don’t understand the level of anger. Why would anyone be resentful of someone else’s good experience.? Nobody would have it easier if we ALL did it tough. It would not change your experience if Lucy left home at 17 or stayed with her mum till she was 56.

    Personally I would like my child to stay with me forever. I would happily build a compound with my bare hands to have his family move in with us when he grows up.

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    • Lucy Ormonde

      I hope I’m not still at home at 56, but if I am so be it. I’m sure there could be worse living situations to be in.
      Thanks Lana x

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      • another anon

        I have a friend who is in her 50s and lives with her mother (she hasn’t always been at home), although, I think by that stage, with her mum in her 80s, it is more a case of her mum lives with her rather than the other way around. They both enjoy the company, and my friend is able to care for her mum. I wouldn’t say she ‘was still living at home’.

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        • Melissa

          My great aunt, as the only unmarried child, took in her elderly mother when she was old and needed care. It’s a very different situation by that point I think.

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    • Anon

      It’s interesting. I haven’t read any of the comments yet but I read the article above and I felt angry. Not angry at the author, just the idea of adults still living at home. I don’t even know why exactly. My kids are 6 and 3 and I don’t even want to think about them leaving one day. If things are the same in another decade and a half I will probably encourage them to stay at home to set themselves up financially before leaving. Yet I still feel angry reading the above story. I guess I’m jealous, I have had no help at all since leaving home at 17 but I’m still measured against my peers who have had plenty of help from family. I know some of my cousins look down on me as some kind of loser because my husband and I rent a crappy house, drive a crappy car and wear crappy clothes; they seem to forget that they got all their nice things by having their Tafe fees paid for and living at home while studying and having a house deposit given to them, no strings attached. I guess part of the anger too is that they seem to take it all for granted, don’t give anything back. What about giving some of that spare cash to charity? If we do keep our children at home I am hoping they will realise they are lucky and not grow up taking it all for granted, feeling entitled to free rent and board as adults. I certainly hope they will have the good taste not to go around crowing about how easy they have it.

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      • Rose

        I understand how you feel. I too left home fairly early on with no help from my parents. I think this is a senstitive issue, and everyone’s experiences are different. I’ve found that with myself it only makes you feel worse by comparing yourself to other people. You are better off just living your life as best as you can because at the end of the day it doesn’t matter what car you drive, house you rent, or how much money you have in the bank – it about the people you love and how they love you.

        Everything I own in my apartment I have paid for and it’s a good feeling. It gives me confidence and makes me feel independent. I have a couple of close girlfriends who still live at home (25yo & 30yo) and they don’t pay rent. I’d lie if I said I didn’t envy them from time to time, but I wouldn’t be the person I am today without moving out and taking care of myself since I was 22.

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        • Anon

          Thanks Rose, that is good advice. Now to try and apply it…

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          • Rose

            I know it’s easier said than done but sometimes you just have to take it easy on yourself. Don’t beat yourself up about the stuff you don’t have – look around you at the stuff you do have. You know how they say it’s easier to smile than it is to frown? So true… I too am trying to put that into practice today so you’re not alone xx

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        • AlyssaKT

          Yes, the envy is something I recognise and feel. When people I know who still live at home and pay no rent, have cars bought for them, even businesses, or who are able to save all their earnings and take holidays I can’t afford.

          But I COULD have stayed home and saved money – not spent it on furniture and rent and bills – but I relish my independence, and that to me is invaluable.

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          • sarah

            I ended up changing friends when I moved out. I couldn’t identify with the ones who were buying a designer outfit to wear each weekend, or meeting for drinks at Opera Bar (at age 18/19!!)

            We had nothing in common anymore. My family was nowhere near as wealthy as my friends’ families, but while living at home I could appear to keep up with them. Once uni started everyone went a bit Gossip girl and I couldn’t justify spending half my income after rent and bills were paid on one dinner.

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      • The Original Camille

        wow, nice insight. I’m sure you are passing on some very valuable skills and philosophies to your kids. Wait and compare them to your cousins’.

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    • picardie.girl

      I followed early on when it was milder, and now it seems people are getting very angry. There is no need to justify your choices or how your life panned out — this is not a competition of “I had it tougher than you”.

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    • MadisonC

      I haven’t read through all the comments (sorry, am pretending to be working hard right now), but the line ‘expensive cheeses in the fridge and the absence of water and electricity bills’ just made me think “princess”. um hello? when i lived at home as an adult, i contributed to bills.

      and the reference to shower gel? it costs a $1 more than no name soap….

      the article irritated me as not all of us have the luxury of going back home to enjoy ‘expensive cheese’ – most of us struggle a bit, work hard and buy our own damned cheese.

      Lucy i’m sorry, i’m sure you didn’t mean to come across as it, but for me it was SUCH a princess article. i felt like giving you a poke (i’m not a violent person!) to tell you real life is not like the Secret Life of Us. Sometimes it’s better, sometimes its worse but a lot of us have to get out and make the best of it. we don’t all get princess lives. but we do have a lot of fun. with or without the persian fetta.

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      • picardie.girl

        I felt that it was lighthearted, not a “princess” article. The people who feel it was seem to be those who are angry/irritated at not having had that option themselves. That isn’t exactly Lucy’s fault…

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      • Imelda

        I totally agree with this. I didn’t feel angry when I read the article, (and haven’t read the ‘angry’ comments yet) – I just thought the tone was ungrateful and did little to dispell the stereotype of thankless ‘kidults’ having someone pay their way, but perhaps that’s what the author intended? To provoke discussion? This article is exactly the type of tone that causes people to label ‘Gen Y’ as selfish…….stereotypes come from somewhere don’t they? Unfortunate for those who are not milling about eating their parent’s caviar and bathing in milk.

        The assertion that “Gen Y aren’t silly” was the one that made ME think ‘princess’ – I think the whole world realises that if someone else pays your way, then life is easier than if you have to pay your own way. It’s not rocket science!!

        The author states that her parent is ‘more like a room mate’ – I can tell you now that there are very few room mates in the world who would enjoy providing financially (as well as the free laundry service) for the household while the others contribute their technological advice as a ‘contribution’ to the household. It’s ya Mum…..shouldn’t that come for free??! Too funny.

        Anyway….the comments have been a very interesting read! Some insight into what’s going on in the world of some 23 year olds!

        Maybe it provokes anger in some people because for some, the idea of anyone treating their parents in a way that is less than respectful doesn’t sit well with them? So the idea of ‘kidults’ treating their OWN parents that way makes people cross? Just a thought – lots of people wouldn’t dare take their parents for granted the way it appears others might?

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    • frankie

      Your ‘compound’ reference is slightly unnerving Lana. xxx

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  41. Jo Gen Y

    I am a 27yo Gen Y adult, I live with my parents.

    I KNOW I dont need to justify myself or my parents however hopefully by sharing I will enlighten the more negetive among us.
    Im bold over by the judgement of some people here (do I judge and disparege your personal situation?) and touched and appreciative of those here that support the right to personal freedom and choice.

    I pay board (addmittedly not as much as if I was renting-but my parents appreciate the financial help not make a profit!) I do my own laundary (I wouldnt dream of getting my parents to) I cook for myself and when I can the whole family, I’m IT support and event planner. I take yes, yet I also give. My parents, brother and I treat each other with respect. I have become closer to my family then I would have if I had moved out on the cusp of adulthood. We each contribute in a way that plays to our strengths.

    I would love to have my own place and space however my major life choice is to travel. Living at home allows me the financial opportunity and emotional freedom to travel for long periods of time. The negative or bitter among us may point out that I am spoilt with these opportunites, however i strongly disagree.

    I choose to make this choice , and my parent luckily support my choices, even if they dont always understand them. I make sacrifices for my choice, being a home owner is just one of many. Choosing to rent or buy or have children or any number of options are personal choices that may limit this choice, valid of course just not for me at this moment in time. Gen Y have the freedom to make these choices, as did previous generations. Its encouraged and expected. Its a testimont to out generation that we each choose such varied and valid life experiences.

    Then some media and some of society assume they can judge us for choosing our own paths. For those that scoff at Gen Y “kidaults’ think about this:
    Instead of judging our personal choices look at yourself and ask why you resent adults that live with their parents? Why does my personal choice or that of my collective generation cause such judgement or critic?

    Just some food for though. Thanks.

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    • yos

      Excellent post Jo!

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      • lucky 13

        I think the much of the negative comments are fuelled by the fact that GenY seem to choose these ‘enlightened’ lives at the expense of other people – eg parents (or in my case, older siblings). I’m sure many of us would like to make it their ‘major life choice’ to travel, however, the reality is that this just isn’t possible due to work, mortgage, rent etc commitments. Yes, GenY does have the freedom to make choices, but only because GenX and the Baby Boomers have provided these choices for them. GenY wants to have their cake and eat it too and then be admired for choosing their own path.

        And just for the record, I’m 31 and living in London. I have also made travelling a priority in my life, however, I have worked very hard to make that happen. I have a mortgage back in Australia and have lived out of home since I was 18. I work full time and squeeze travel in around that – and sacrifice many things such as nice clothes, fancy dinners, manicures etc to make that happen.

        GenY seemed to have skipped the part about making sacrifices to get what you want. I do realise that this does not apply to all GenY’ers but there does seem to be a strong majority…

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        • yos

          I understand where the negativity is coming from, even though I think it is somewhat unwarranted, especially to the extent that some people have taken it.

          I also think “the FACT that GenY seem to choose these ‘enlightened’ lives at the expense of other people” may be true in your case, it may be true in a lot of cases, but it is more of an assumption when generalising about an entire generation of young adults (or even a “strong majority”).

          I’m not advocating bratty self entitlement, but there are plenty of different situations to take into consideration before labeling someone lazy or bratty or selfish or whatever else people want to call someone out of spite, pettiness or envy. (not referring to you lucky 13)

          I’m 32, have lived out of home since I was 18, have had no financial support from my parents who split when I was 12. Both of them were too screwed up to give us kids any guidance, so we have all had to make our own way and make a lot of mistakes to get where we are. There are indeed a lot of positives to this, I can take a lot of pride in getting to where I am under my own steam.

          If I had the option to stay in a pleasant, stable home for longer, to find my feet a little and to have the comfort, safety and guidance that certain parents can give I would have taken it.

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  42. Jemma O

    I’m 24, I live at home with my happily married parents, and my 22 year old brother. I recently moved home after being out for 2 years, and.. it’s fun. We laugh, fight, have great discussions and great meals. We all pitch in. And yes, I pay rent, buy food, do my own washing, and contribute to household chores just like I have been for as long as I can remember. My parents have never given me pocket money, bought my clothes once I turned 14 and got a job, never bought me a car or paid for my petrol etc. I am a child of four and us children have always been rather self-sufficient compared to our friends.

    It’s like living with housemates whom I trust 100%. I can leave money around, expensive belongings etc. I can have people over whenever I like, and if we have problems with eachother, we bring it up quickly and find a solution because we are all adults. We’re not always home at the same time, and we do have a rather big house with 2 dogs that we all look after. This may not work forever, but for now, I live somewhere I trust and although we definitely don’t always agree on things- I live with people I respect, who respect me.

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    • yos

      100% trust, that is it. Living with family is great like that. Like you say, you can resolve disputes quickly and everyone gets along, most of the time. Lucky you! xo

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  43. Anonymous

    Just to add a different angle, I’m Gen X and grew up in a country town, 4 1/2 hours by train from the nearest city (or 3 hours by car), but I went to the CAE (now a Uni) in my home town, and there were (and still are) plenty of city kids who moved to the country town to go to that CAE/Uni.

    I thought about moving into a shared house, rather than continuing to live with my divorced mum, but Mum and I got on well, I contributed to the household – cooking, cleaning (we both have a high tolerance for clutter), doing laundry, gardening – which I’d been doing since I was in my early teens, and I really appreciated living in a nice house with a beautiful garden (thanks to our looking after it) rather than a grotty shared house that the landlord didn’t maintain properly, with student flatmates who wouldn’t have the time, knowledge or inclination to look after a garden (if there was one).

    I started contributing financially to our two-person household when I finished college and started work full-time; continued living at Mum’s for another two years, partly because I initially lacked the confidence to move to the city and look for work (and being shoved out of the nest would not have helped my confidence), and partly because I actually liked living in a country town.

    since I moved to the city I’ve lived in shared houses with several other single people, and with a family with small kids, and with my then partner for five years, and on my own – they all have benefits and drawbacks, as did living with my mum.

    I cook less now living on my own than I did when sharing with Mum, and I haven’t done any pruning since I moved out :-(

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  44. Anonymous

    hmmm…don’t act like children. Parents more like friends or room mates. Am trying really hard to remember any room mate I have heard of that takes care of the bills, provides expensive cheese, good bedding, laundry, shower gel and also takes responsibility for your pets!

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  45. Finiam

    I live with my mum, my son, my bro, one of my two adopted sisters and her kids.

    Dysfunctional? Hardly.

    There’s always a spare bed, plenty of food (which we all contribute to), paid bills (which we all contribute to), plenty of love and laughter (which we all contribute to) and friends coming and going.

    Not always perfect, but always family.

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  46. Maria

    This post shouldn’t be about generations but rather each individual person, everyone is different, and as we always say, we shouldn’t be ‘moulding’ to what everyone else does.

    I am a 55 year old mother who has four children, two moved out when they were 24, another has been moving in and out for the last 3 years due to personal circumstances in his life (he is now 23) and my daughter moved out (moved interstate!) when she was 19. We help her out occasionally, with rent and other expenses, especially during exams when her income is low. Most parents, I assume, would want to do this for their children. My children have always been independent, they all got a job once they turned 15 and their pocket money stopped.

    I say well done to Lucy for posting this, I have no doubt your mother loves having you home, if my daughter decided to move home I would not give it a second thought.

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  47. Me

    I hate dating guys that still live at home well into their 20s.

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    • Rose

      Oh me too! Seriously… it’s a big turn off that they can’t look after themselves…

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      • Anonymous

        Because living in a crusty bachelor flat is such a turn on…

        Two sides to every coin :) Don’t rule out a guy based on who he lives with. It’s how he lives that is more important.

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  48. Christy

    An every so slightly off tangent post…

    We rent out a house to a “friend” who has been less than reliable for some time, due to his marriage breaking up and trying to get back on his feet. We’ve let it go at time, cracked down hard at times. But as I keep saying to my husband, why does a 35 year old man need to live in a big 3 bedroom house by himself and one he obviously can’t afford.

    Why doesn’t he move back in with his parents with his tail between his legs and have them deal with it, rather than us.

    I moved back home when my life turned sour, its comfortable, cheaper and you get looked after.

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  49. Fi fi

    would love to still live at home.. unfortunately I am 3200 km away :(

    Moved out at 21 and felt so old doing so..

    Now i look back and think maybe it was a bit rash to move out so young..

    the things you do for a good job

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  50. Caroline

    I’m 21, just finished my under grad degree and live at home. Going to Europe next year then probably go back to study in 2012. I am half an hour away from work and my parents like having me home. If I was to move out-for no reason-then I would have to live twice the distance from the city as I do now. Even then I could barely afford it.

    To all of those people who say that we are spoilt: Remember what it is like to only earn a couple of hundred dollars a week, to eat two minute noodles for dinner. Living at home is much more appealing then that.
    With ridiculously high house prices isn’t it obvious that you would stay at home a little while longer? Don’t judge us because times have changed. The reality is I’m not going to be able to afford to buy a house you know within the next decade, and rent is wasted money. I know eventually-probably within the next two years-I will be paying rent. But until then I have a perfectly good living arrangement.

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