I’ve become such a great third wheel that I deserve royalties from the sale of all future tricycles.
It’s not that I like being the nose of a bizarre Isosceles triangle but it’s sometimes necessary to prevent loved-up friends from getting sucked into the vacuum of all those hormones. For the eternally single, like my glorious self, love is war. A never-ending series of battles to stop your immediate friendship circle eroding away. No, I will not concede my territory.
This is Sparta, ladies and gentlemen, and your canoodling just got flanked.
You might think it desperate – that’s fine – but it’s a certain fundamental cunning that preserves my whittled social life.
I was reminded of this over the weekend when I came across Candice Chung’s piece about the Couple Bubble in Sunday Life. It sounds quaint and faintly adorable until you realise the bubble is made of cast iron and those on the outside aren’t allowed in.
“In the early stages of romantic love, your brain gets flooded with all kinds of hormones – it mimics someone that’s on cocaine,” says Emma Merkas, relationship commentator and founder of the $30 Date Night blog. “Basically, it’s an addiction to your partner. We’re biologically hard-wired to want to be with them all the time … so you might lose your sense of social etiquette or awareness, if you let yourself succumb to it.”
Biology, it seems, is the enemy of human decency. Not only does it explain why new lovers adopt public-behaviour codes pioneered by drunks (making out, fighting, excessive love-declaring), but hormones might also be responsible for “couple’s coma” – a pesky malady where once-active individuals abandon any interest in making an effort socially.
“It’s true that once you’re in a long-term relationship, you don’t have as much energy as single people do,” says Merkas. “When you’re single, what you get is a rush of testosterone – and all this hormone sends you out there, trying to find a mate. Once you’ve found someone, all that testosterone goes away, eventually replaced by a bonding hormone called oxytocin.
A 2010 study shows that falling in love is likely to push out two close friends from your inner circle – a phenomenon known as “dyadic withdrawal”. The research, led by Robin Dunbar, head of the Institute of Cognitive and Evolutionary Anthropology at Oxford University, showed that those who enter a new relationship are likely to see their average number of close friends drop from five to three (excluding their new partner). “If you don’t see [your friends], your emotional engagement with them drops off, and does so quickly,” says Dunbar.”
See? I wasn’t imagining things
My couple friends tend to forge ahead in two directions. There are those who remain a vibrant cog in our borderline fantastical social life (what’s hyperbole? I’ve never heard of it) and there are those who collapse in on themselves like a fallen star creating a social black hole of such density that nothing can escape.
It’s all well and good that a couple might want to go into lockdown, but who am I going to discuss politics with when they’re rabbiting on about the ‘equal distribution of labor’ in their kitchen and buying 2-for-1 dinners as proof of their future economic viability?
The yarn I browsed made mention of the fact the ‘couple bubble’ comes complete with the jettisoning of normal social values and benchmarks. Where previously a pair might have rejected the idea of Public Displays of Affection (PDAs) now they embrace the public grope like they’ve just entered a competition for public groping and the grand prize is more of each other.
Using the extraordinary powers of self reflection I was granted during a terrible accident as a toddler, I can see this rant might make me sound a little deranged. Maybe even needy. But, you see, I’m doing it for them.
I’m saving them from the endless rotisserie of domestic discussion that might overwhelm them. Saving them from those bothersome displays of over-the-top public romance (stop recreating the scene from Lady and a Tramp, this meal was expensive) and saving them from, you know, the abyss.
They might very well enjoy it, but my social circle is a finely crafted masterpiece and I don’t need it being reinterpreted by, let’s say, Snooki.
Speaking of couples, here are some who I don’t have to worry about because we were never friends to begin with:

Beyonce and Jay Z
Are you in a couple or (sort of) happily single? What’s your take on the ‘couple bubble’?







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I am really struggling with this at the moment as a few of my long time single friends have recently hooked up – and now I never hear from them. I’ve tried to keep up the phonecalls and invites to catch up, but they only want to do that when their partners have other stuff to do. Don’t get me wrong, I’m really happy they’ve found love and understand they want to spend lots of time with their new partners, but it would be great to see them so we can talk about their relationships and I can find out what else has been happening in their lives.
I guess I just need to stick it out and wait til the dust settles … and hopefully we’ll still be friends at that point …
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My new bf (first guy I’ve been on more than 3 dates with in the last 3 years) is currently cranky with me because I don’t go in for all the coupley stuff. Apparently it is inconsiderate of me to arrange to spend time with my friends, who were around long before him and will be around long after him, on weekends without thinking about what he might like to do. It’s ok though, if he wants to continue being my boyfriend he’ll just have to learn to live with it. Boyfriends come and go, but best friends can last a lifetime!
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I hear you, Rick- vomitous, isn’t it? I’ve never been guilty of the couple bubble, and have never dropped my friends when I meet someone new, no matter how into them I am, so I have to say I have little patience for friends who do. It’s just not something I get.
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I was single for SO long. I was the perpetually single friend whom everyone assumed would die alone. Pair this with the fact that I’m not a huge party animal, and my favourite type of socialising involves coffee and long chats, rather than drinking and dancing. Sundays and public holidays were awful. New Years Eve was spent alone a few times (or with family! Oh shame of shames!). I’m not saying I was miserable or pathetic, but it was definiely tough because, YES, most of my friends were coupled up and seemed to have little or no interest in spending quality socialising time with singles. Yes I’d go to the movies or shopping or to have coffee with the girls, but come weekends or evenings, they’d prefer to spend it with their parners (or, increasingly, their kids – but that’s a different column).
BUT.
I’ve been happily loved up for three years now and it’s amazing how different it is on the other side of the fence. I’d love to include my single friends more but it’s just….difficult. Everything seems so set up and geared towards couples. Interacting at another level feels hard. And it totally makes sense now that I have read about the oxytocin and laziness. I don’t think I have ever been as socially lazy as I am now.
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Oh I so agree with your comment: ….”Yes I’d go to the movies or shopping or to have coffee with the girls, but come weekends or evenings, they’d prefer to spend it with their partners”
The amount of times I have been offered a second rate time to hang out or got the dreaded “oooo…..not sure about Friday/Saturday/Sunday/Any Public Holiday – Fred and I haven’t decided what we are doing”
Grrr…well surely if I’ve asked you first then thats what you’re doing?? Nothing worse than feeling like you’re only worth every third monday night….
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Oh, that drives me batty! “Want to see a movie?” “I’d love to, but partner is working.” Um, are you surgically attached? And I’d wonder of it was something about *me*, but these couples are like that with everyone. They just can’t fathom socialising separately. What is that about?
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Ugh, friend would get a swift kick up the butt if they tried that with me. Luckily for them (and me, sadface) they are very happy to go out and about with or without their ‘other’. ;D
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I’m the perpetually single one – yet to experience the other side of the fence – and you are right on. I fit in around everyone else’s lives – and I’m always offered the second-rate calendar dates, such as weeknights or when my friends’ partners happen to be away or having a boys’ night. I understand, but it’s also annoying.
However, your story gives me hope that I might someday be on the other side of the fence. I seem to have so much trouble finding the right person for me. I constantly go on dates with guys I feel luke-warm about. It’s so frustrating!
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I’m the one all loved up with my amazing bf but I try desperately hard to catch up with my single girlfriends but between all of their dating and partying they’re the ones saying ‘Maybe the second Tuesday in feb I’ll confirm closer to then’ then I’ll call to confirm on the Monday because I haven’t heard from them and surprise surprise they’re busy, doing single girl things.. It goes both ways, I think it comes down to respecting the friendship and that though you both might be in different stages of life you can still maintain a fabulous friendship, will just take more effort!
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Please keep holding out hope if you’re still looking for The One. I cannot recommend dating websites like RSVP enough! It’s not where I met my partner, but I went on lots of dates and met a lot of lovely guys. It makes you feel hopeful and proactive, like you are actually going out there and changing the situation, instead of sitting at home hoping it’ll change itself. It also means you’ll meet lots of singles and realise you’re not alone in your single bubble while everyone else is coupled up – there are plenty of singles out there and you might just find some friends with whom to enjoy a Sunday afternoon.
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I once dated this guy who spent all his time with his best mate and his best mate’s wife.
I knew it was because he truly loved his best mate (in a platonic way, of course) but I found it a bit excessive and weird. The fact that he didn’t really have much of a family of his own may have been the reason, but there was something overwhelmingly unhealthy about it. And if I was the wife of his best mate, I would have found it really annoying – hardly ever being able to have my husband to myself without his best mate tagging along to everything most weekends.
Anyway, what I’m trying to say is that sometimes one can be TOO comfortable being the third wheel.
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I absolutely agree that it absolutely sucks when couples float away in their bubble and everything else is forgotten
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I also can’t help but be annoyed by single people (usually my single friends who have never had a relationship) who say broad statements such as “I would NEVER change plans for a guy….I will NEVER lend a guy money….I will only hang out with my boyfriend a couple of times a week I hate serious couples….I hate couples that hug and kiss in public” etc etc it all just goes on and on. Sometimes I just feel like saying wait until you’ve fallen in love!! You are addicted and giddy and sometimes its nice to have friends that understand and don’t judge decisions!
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Great article Rick. Although I have been coupled up for many years now, I was single for a long time before that and know exactly how you feel. It can be very isolating and frustrating.
I can’t stand PDA and never engage in it and can never understand couples who are joined at the hip and never do anything without each other. There is just something about it that doesn’t sit right with me. Every time I see a couple who is all over each other in public or someone who says “we’ve never spent a night apart in 10 years,” I can’t help but think there are some insecurity issues there and that they’re trying to prove something. Surely it can’t be healthy to be that dependant on another person.
Case in point, my husband travels for work fairly regularly and my former sister in law used to make stupid comments along the lines of “I can’t believe you are ok with him leaving you alone while he goes away, my husband would never leave me alone for a single night.” Fast forward a few years and they are divorced while we are as strong as ever.
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Brilliant piece, Rick. Gave me a few good giggles, and I can relate and agree with a lot of it!
Ahh, PDA… Never could stand the couple who were recreating The Notebook on the escalator. I never liked being a part of PDA beyond discreet, subtle contact, either.
Eventually, I decided to try and make peace with the existence of this loopy loved-updom and still keep saying to myself “At least they’re spreading love, not hate
”… Same goes for Facebook PDA
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This article could not have been written at a more appropriate time for me.
I am experiencing for the first time in a while what it is like to be the third wheel again and I HATE it. I feel so self conscious and completely out of place. I’m happy for the couple of course. Date, be merry, fall in love…you just don’t have to include me. Seriously, no hard feelings. You have my “bff blessing.”
Why do girls feel like they have to do this? Attempt to balance their friends when they know they just want to get all hot and sweaty with their new luvver. Heck, I’m guilty of it but I still think it is totally unneccesary. Keep me out of it. Keep it all separate. It’s cleaner that way, no one need be self conscious in conversation. I’m being a considerate friend, giving you and your man space. Right, right?
Couple stuff is so private to me and in my opinion should not include a third wheel at anytime. Large groups are OK (at least I can talk to someone else to distract me, right?)
I’ve been in a relationship where I tried to balance friends with my partner only to fall into the black hole and almost lose friends because he couldn’t handle me going out with any of them. There should have been some balance but there wasn’t. At the same time, there are certain couple things I don’t need to be privvy too (initial courting, dating, flirting, texting). Call me up later for a debrief. I just don’t need to be there to get the live score.
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Live score, brilliant! But yes, never much fun. I’m good at enduring it, but only for special people!
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Hey! That’s me quoted up there in that excerpt! Awesome.
I’ve never understood the ‘us’ versus ‘them’ mentality – couples dinner parties and couples-only weekends… Bizarre.
I’ve (thankfully) never fallen into a couple bubble, though plenty of friends have been guilty of it.
It annoys me when after years of not pushing my relationship or partner onto a friend (breakfasts, dinners, parties, movies just me and my friend) they up and disappear into their own couple black hole (good one, Rick) or start bringing their partner everywhere with them all the time.
Anyway, as I said they’re hardwired for it so you can hardly blame them. But you’d think after all these years of evolution and the gift of self-awareness, people would be able to snap out of it!
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We not only only hang out with couples, we only usually hang out with couples who have kids under four. It wasn’t planned that way, we just all hit the same life stages simultaneously. It can be a bit monotonous, to be honest.
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I hate to admit it but I’m half of one of those annoyingly PDA couples. We are not all groping and tongues flying PDA, but constant contact, canoodling, little pecks – up we do that, all the time. Even when we try not to, it is just such a part of who we are as a couple, we do it without thinking. However I’m proud to say we have not lost any friends. I still have my girls nights, he has his boys ones. We hang out with people, we just do it attached at the hip.
So I apologise to anyone we offend, just let me say, we are a thousand times more into each other in private!
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Don’t like how the title has changed. It had something to do with questioning whether or not we’d been locked out of the couple bubble. That’s what I replied to, not something about how couples suck. Gives the wrong impression…
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The headlines at MM are fluid, but the end question is still the same, and the article too!
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Don’t look at is a war, Rick. Look at it as an opportunity. When I was single and in my 20s, I never had a problem hanging out with my coupled friends. In fact, I quite liked the break from my circle of single friends. It felt comforting and less hectic. I liked hearing the perspective from my friends’ boyfriends/husbands on my dating woes, career problems, etc. I got to know these guys as individuals, not just as the partners of my girlfriends.
I think it’s all about perception. If you feel like a third wheel, you’ll be treated as one. Take the time to get to know both halves of a couple, you may just be surprised by the new friendships and perspectives you gain. And be patient with your friends during their loved-up phase. They will come out the other side. Eventually!
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Some of my couple friends are AMAZING. But some of them really are on another planet!
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Ha! Oh yes that does happen. Let’s hope they come back to Earth soon! If not, you may have to sit them down to watch “Aliens”. Get all Ripley on their ass.
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Yes, yes, yes I know the feeling! I have been single for over 3 years now and have been the third, fifth, or even the seventh wheel a few times. Yes, its not fun always being the single person but I can do that or stay at home. I battle through.
My biggest problem is girlfriends who tell their partner EVERYTHING, and apparently that includes everything about me. A few times I have confided in a friend only to to find out they have told their partner as well. Sorry but I am close friends with you, not your partner… I woul never talk to hem about such personal things in my life!
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Ah yes, partner sharing! That’s more a problem in reverse as my female friends tend to share everything about their male partners with me…
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Yes! A confidence is a confidence. I don’t get why people need to tell their partner everything if it doesn’t affect their relationship.
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In the process of ending my 14yr relationship , and REALLY regretting living in my couple bubble and neglecting my friendships .
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I did the same for 11 years and 3 of those were after relocating to London. Was so hard to make friends again as I didn’t know how. Luckily my workplace had several amazing people who have now become my very good friends but they are now all loved up and I am still single. So after a few good years of fun I am now the third wheel big time and it makes me so uncomfortable. One friend I thought was a very good friend has barely spoken to me since moving in with her new boyfriend in July last year when before that she was calling me every 5 minutes to do things or for advice because every guy she met on the internet (and she met many) didn’t want to marry her after 2 dates!!!
Enjoy being single, you can find yourself again. I found I didn’t like the person I had become in my relationship. Good luck
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Even in our early married days we cultivated friendships, particularly with single people of both genders. In fact, we don’t have a whole lot of couple friends, because our friendships tend to be his and hers — we enjoy, and relate best, to very different sorts of people
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We call this dropping out. It was such a special time for my husband and I. I would not deny it to anyone. we usually say see you in 6 months to a year
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Zoe calls it The Boyfriend Cave.
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I think a lot of us go through the ‘loved up couple’ phase to some extent at the beginning of a relationship. In this time it’s hard to remember you need to keep sharing the love with your friends.
After being the girl who LOVED to be single for a long time I met a guy I couldn’t say no to. What I’ve learnt from my relationship is that your real friends are the ones that are still there after the first few months of you obsessing over your shiny new toy. Real friends accept the amount of time you have for them may have slightly changed, or that sometimes your partner will be tagging along. Over the last two years we have both slowly culled our friends down to the ones that matter, and it’s nice to know these are the ones that will always be there. And for the record, almost all of them are single.
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i think REAL friends don’t cut their friends out when they get into a relationship
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Someone’s bitter.
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I can see both points – real friends understand you being loved up, or real friends don’t cut you out. For me, and I’ve experienced this, you have to be honest. I was going through a divorce when my single best friend found ‘the one’. I went from speaking to her every day to not hearing from her for months. She even forgot my son’s 1st birthday. (Yes, I invited her to the party but she was away that weekend with him.) Then we caught up one day and I asked what’d been going on. And she just smiled, nodded and threw the question back at me. As if it was me! She tried to carry on as if nothing had happened but I was too hurt. And I walked away. So when determining REAL friends, I think it matters HOW the ‘loved up’ phase is done.
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This is slightly off topic, but would it be possible to change the Articles under “Galleries Must see Links” as the article: Plus-sized bodies, what’s wrong with them anyway? (with the two naked ladies hugging) has been on there for a while and it is quite embarrassing to read an article, say at work, where people can see the naked ladies pic.
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PS I also really enjoyed the article as well
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This doesn’t as such apply to me as I’ve been married for years and both I and my husband are quite loners. I have a couple of female friends (also married) and we socialise…movies, coffee that sort of thing without our husbands.
My daughter however is in the throes of her first great intimate love affair. I’m trying to tell her that she is only 21 and that men will come and men will go throughout her life, but her female friends, if she is lucky will be there for the long haul.
I’m warning her not to invest all in this man to the extent that she allows her single female friends to fall by the way side, because if she does she will live to regret it. It’s a mistake to put a male before your female friends (I think so anyway)
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I agree catgirl. I’m so glad I met my husband when I was 28 and not 21. I was able to spend my twenties solidifying my friendships with my girlfriends. My sister, on the other hand, neglected her friendships in favour of a series of long-term relationships from age 19 onwards. As a result, she has taken a long, long time to make female friends. Each to their own, but I treasure my girlfriends and the history we share.
Your daughter is lucky to get such great advice from her mum.
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In my previous relationship a lot of my friends lost touch with me.
I was really hurt – I was left behind on my own, in an abusive relationship where I needed some friends.
They didn’t invite me to things because I was “in a relationship” or they got shitty at me because I always had to bring my boyfriend along – who would abuse me if I went somewhere without him. So it was a choice between pissing them off, or being abused by him.
When I was told off by them for bringing him, I would try to justify it by saying he doesn’t like me to go without him. Instead of support or understanding, I got yelled at, ostracized and criticised.
I guess my point is – if someone does always take their partner, try asking them why. Please don’t write them off just because they do. Sometimes there is more going on than you realise.
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I don’t have a problem when I hang out with couples, unless they’re sitting there touching each other up in front of you. What I don’t like is when your friend seems to lose their sense of self and doesn’t see they’re repeating mistakes and patterns from failed relationships. Both housemates have recently gotten into relationships and while I’m happy for both of them, I notice one changes herself to suit the guy she’s seeing. Which I think is unhealthy. This time, she’s proclaiming she hates drugs, despite having been into it for as long as I’ve known her and picking up English slang (new bf is English). Her last bf liked expensive restaurants and cocaine, so she did too. The one before liked smoking pot, so she did too.
Other housemate is less frustrating in her behaviour, instead she obsesses about what she’s writing in texts.
I liked living with boys better.
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I”m lucky in that my friends have always said that my partner and I don’t ever ‘act’ coupley. I’ve been out with friends, boyfriend included, and i’ve gotten up to leave with him and people have been shocked by how quickly i’ve picked up. They hadn’t even realised that we were dating because we rarely ever provide visual cues.
As other’s have said, i usually don’t like going out with my single friends because “girls” night ends up being “lets go out and pick up” or “lets get smashed and cry about how i’m going to be alone forever” night. i either end up having to play mum to my crying friends or leaving because everyone has ditched me.
It works both ways. People in couples need to be considerate of their single friends and the single people need to be considerate of their “couple” friends.
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I moved several hours away from my home town when I married my husband. We lived an hour outside the nearest town, on a farm. When our relationship collapsed, we realised that a geographically-related bubble had formed around us, and that we had very little support in the way of friends, as a result!
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I was going to comment that I’d never been excluded but then I thought of my friends who we have nicknamed Brangelina-style.
It happened slowly because all our friends got partners slowly, but they would only have couples dinner parties, but to confuse us, the boys would be tottled off to play poker while the girls were grouped together to play singstar/ other crappy games. So in the end it didnt matter if your bf was there because you didnt see him!
Anyway now they’ve had a kid and are total Mombies. They’ve made no effort to contact friends since Bub was born, I guess cus none of us have kids. Even when we do get together all they talk about is the kid.
But back to me: I’ve never been a couples-only person. I’ve had my bf 2.5yrs and I don’t hesitate to have girls nights, he goes away with his mates, sure – we do double dates with other couples but we more often do group things with lots of people, single or otherwise. I actually only get funny about insisting my partner is with me for NYE (to kiss at midnight!) but every other day of the year is a partner-optional day for me!
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I wish you were my friend
Majority of mine are single. One girl in particular. She wasn’t from our city & always up for a night out, loved that friendship with us now gave her a busy social life. For years…until she met him.
11 months later: think we saw her maybe four times. And once she dragged him along to a performance one of our other friends was in then disappeared straight after. No catching up. Love bubble.
Why 11 months? They broke up. I kinda get the love bubble for a few weeks/up to 3mths but beyond felt just plain rude. She made friends with one of his but were we all wrong – was she not friends with us?
All I know was it was totally weird. And now she is back & even inviting herself along to things. No doubt to fill void and keep herself ‘busy’.
Dunno…would you cut her out? She is fun to have around. Only now I am left wondering how long until we all get ditched again.
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In terms of the couples only hanging with couples, I think it’s a big call to imagine both partners will get on equally well with both partners. I’m not going to automatically want to hang with Jim’s mate’s wives and he isn’t that fussed on some of my friend’s husbands. So, better to see them separately. Everyone enjoys themselves more. Also, you each have a bit of gossip to bring to the table. If you only socialise together, there is no news about anyone else.
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I feel the same way! Most “couples” we socialise with are Mr W’s friends and their husbands/partners – all my friends are single or I don’t really socialise with their partners. We don’t really have any “couple friends” per se!
Worst part is that I’m realising that I really don’t think I like one of Mr W’s best friends and her husband, so when Mr W wants to hang out with them, I dig my heels in and let him go on his own! I don’t know why, and I know it is mean, but they are really REALLY into booze (the husband works in wineries) and I seriously am NOT, and I find it off putting.
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The times when I do bring my boyfriend out with me my friends seem fine with it because we’re not a very public couple, as in not a lot of PDAs/talking to only each other in big groups because, well, it’s a bit uncomfortable and awkward, isn’t it?
However, the times when I don’t bring my boyfriend always seems to be the time when all my friends decide to hook up with randoms and ditch me, leaving me awkwardly dancing on my own while surrounded by a circle of lip lockers. THAT is what frustrates me the most! If I didn’t invite my boyfriend because it was meant to be a girls night then please don’t ALL ditch me to make out! If I knew that was going to happen I would have invited him…
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In times like this, you need to make sure your bf is out on a boys night at a pub near you, when your friends ditch you, you can give him a text and he can meet up with you so you’re not totally ditched.
My bf and I often have pre-drinks with just our friends and then we all meet at a pub later. It’s great!
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I agree with you. “girls night” often turns out to be an opportunity for my single friends to go out on the prowl. What am I supposed to do while they are trying to chat guys up at the bar?!
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Hmm true ladies but us single folk need your help! It’s hard to meet people these days so we need our loved up friends to go out with us so that we can maybe have the same luck and meet someone… otherwise what do we do, especially if most of our friends have partners?
Works both ways as well, last weekend my friend ditched me to go to where her new bf was…
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I have had single friends not want to come away for the weekend or come to dinner as they ‘don’t want to be the only single person’.
And then moan that they hate being left out just coz they ‘aren’t in a relationship’.
Sometimes you just can’t win.
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i have the same! my friendship group happened to partner up. My boyfriend’s best friend started dating a good friend of mine and another girl ended up with a mutual friend of ours and we have one girl who refuses to come anywhere with us because she’s the 7th wheel yet complains that she never sees us! Can not win!
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Put yourself in her shoes! Would you rock up to dinner with 3-4 couples as the only single????? As a single it’s a horrible feeling. Invite a few other singles – and make sure you let her know – i’m sure she will appreciate it.
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So I see what you are saying…I am though not single and have been in a relationship for almost 10 years and married for 8 of them but I refuse to be in a couple bubble- I mean really couples only dinner parties?!? I’ve been to some of those and they weren’t much fun. In fact I went to one on the weekend and its all mortgage comparisons and family holidays. Blah Blah- sometimes is can be a bit snoozey.
I want to remain a vibrant cog in a borderline fantastical social life. I have had many single years of being the third/fifth/seventh wheel. I have lots of single friends and often do the girls weekend or night out or trips away by myself.
What I presently have a problem with is that a couple of my friends have broken up from long long term relationships and for the first time in their adult lives they’re having extended single time. We’re pretty much doing the same things as before coffee catch ups and a few more girls/dateless nights.
What I am struggling with is that they are weird when husband is around. They won’t even come around if he is home. We’re not the coupley couple we never really have been. I guess I just wish some people would actually be ok with being the third/fifth/seventh wheel sometimes. Is that wrong?
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I get excluded by my single friends since I married. It got worse once I had kids. I’m the one who has to make the effort to organise catch ups. I have never understood this as I am more than happy to go out without hubby and kids.
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I’ve been on both sides of the bubble, so to speak, and I’ve found that it was worse being in the couple and being shut out by my single friends, than the other way around. Not to say that couples don’t do it, but in my experience it was the singles that had way more issues.
But then I don’t think I’m one of those people who get totally attached at the hip to my new love. I still have my own time, my friend time and my man time. I certainly try to make it that way anyway.
But as a single person I accepted that sometimes I’d have to socialise with the couples and I was ok with that. But I found the singles, really weren’t that okay with my hanging out with them with my partner. Sad really.
I vote for the permeable bubble idea that Evilcupcake mentioned below.
Let’s share the love.
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Dyadic withdrawal eh? One friendship flew out the window cause of that last year. As for my other friends? 2/3 are in couples and the other 1/3 are single. With one couple, I’m close friends with both and we’ll often do things together or I’ll spend buddy time with either the hubby or the wife. They’re like siblings to me. With my other loved up friends, they’re not in new relationships and the women are quite independent and maintain their outside connections (there are three friends I’m thinking of in particular and they tend to split our get togethers with half being just us and half including their spouse – I enjoy both). Apart from that one person last year, I guess I’m thankful it’s not yet happened but the married couple that I spend a lot of time with do joke that I’ll vanish once I end up with someone. I don’t think so…The exes were shift workers and one was FIFO so it’s always been normal to me to focus my energy on friends as they’re the ones who would keep me sane or invite me over when I was missing the boys. I hope I don’t disappear into a black hole…If there’s one thing that being single has taught me, it’s that friends are there through thick and thin. Hormones on the other hand are not!
Just one thing Rick, I’m kind of annoyed at you. I have a day off and it’s not even half seven yet but my body still woke up and searched for my phone so I could read the news and the rest of these articles. I should be sleeping in ’til well after 0800hrs so well done for feeding my addiction. A healthy addiction I might add
PS – Was going to write iPhone but some of yesterday’s posters kind of have a point. Must not write iPhone. Must not write iPhone.
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Mwah ha ha, my evil plan is working! A nation of early risers! The worst super villain plot ever, but it’s working!
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See I knew you wore a patch on one eye! This is proof!
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You said iPhone! Haw haw…I didn’t know I couldn’t say iPhone rhe other day on the Melbourne vs Sydney post. Cracked me up! Have a lovely day off.
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Thanks! I blame the fact that it’s not simply a phone. I use notes to write lists and draft emails or jot down chord progressions. It’s an alarm, I take photographs/footage, watch videos, read the bible, tune my guitar, translate stuff French/English and use any number of apps. It’s not just a phone…;-)
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I get what you mean, Rick. Couples I find are not near as ‘bad’ as the couples with kids. Once your friends have kids, you can send them a nice card to say ‘congrats, and see you in a few years’ time’.
I am blessed with great friends though (couples, most of them), who do make the effort and stay in touch all the time. Healthy couples realise (after the initial burst of oxytocin has worn off) that they are still individuals who need their friends outside the bubble of love.
Question: do your friends also constantly try to pair you off? It’s like they want you to find your own bubble of love, irrespective of whether you’re interested or not. It’s thoughtful, but some of us prefer being single and having lots of headspace for things we want to do, places we want to go to, projects we want to pursue. I know I do. Romantic relationships can be such hard work! Bubbles are a tad overrated, plus they tend to burst. Give me my blissful freedom instead.
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Not my immediate friends but I do have lots of people always saying ‘oh, I know this gay you would love…’
Really, unspecified person, really?
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Well of course Rick – you’re gay, he’s gay, you totes have sooooo much in common!
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Oh this is me for the past, well, ever!! At the moment I seem to have two distinct groups of friends- work peeps are all loved up and I am always the fifth (or seventh!) wheel; and my housemates are still in that stage of being single where they just want to go out partying & hook up with as many people as possible!!! Both valid lifestyle choices, but I am a little sick of being stuck in the middle!!
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I am newly single and previous to this I was in a very close knit group of 4 couples. I just assumed that because we were so close my new relationship status wouldn’t effect anything, but it totally has. The social structure and numbers have all been thrown out and I am defiantly feeling like the spare wheel. Couples suck!
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Mr cat and I are definitely not one of those couples… As the years have gone on, most of our single friends are now in couples, but many of our friends are in the ADF, so even if they are in a couple, they are still kinda single as in by themselves a lot. My best friend and I hang out / talk once a week. Very rare that mr cat would come along. They get on fine and can socialize and like each other- but how can I bitch about him if he is there?!?
When she recently broke up with her partner of 9 years, we went on a holiday to Tassie that we had been talking about for a couple of years- just us.
Mr cat does the same thing. He has a best mate that he sees without me , his mate is married but we never dothings as a couple ( mostly because neither he nor I can stand his mates obnoxious wife!!)
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I just read that whole thing thinking you were talking about your pet cat!!!! Then I saw your name… I’m a bit slow this morning!
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I promise I am not a crazy cat lady …. Yet
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l was once not invited to a dinner party held by some of my closest friends because it was couples only. About 15 years later, I still don’t quite understand the logic behind that.
I had felt so 3rd wheel so often that, like Bec, I purposefully made sure that I didn’t behave like this when I met and then married my husband.
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I am actually rather lucky in that I don’t know anyone who would do a ‘couples only’ dinner. Am I alone in thinking that is rude?
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The same thing happened to me. I remember feeling incredibly hurt and left out.
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No, no. You’re right, it’s the height of rudeness. I’m flabbergasted!
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hmm, does that mean I can’t organise a couples only dinner of 6 people? If we don’t make it couples only, it means we have to have 12 people over for dinner and I didn’t want to have to cater for that many ppl!!
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A dinner party with that many people would turn me into a stressed out grumble bum. Five is all I’m brave enough to try
No, you definitely shouldn’t have to cater for twelve. I was assuming that Red Shoes and co. were a tight knit bunch and got the impression that out of her entire close knit circle, she was the only one not invited. That’s what I found rude but then I’m making a lot of assumptions. I hope your dinner party goes well!
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Yep, that is what happened to me. My (close) friend’s new boyfriend hosted a dinner party so that he could meet all of her friends. I was specifically not invited because it was couples only. I was also the only person from the friendship group (which consisted of 2 girls + their partners), that was not invited. To make matters worse, was at dinner at one of the invitee’s and they accidentally started talking about X’s party. I was like, “what party?”.
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The same thing happened to me! and the host actually told me! I felt peeved because I’ve gone out of my way countless times for him but he couldn’t have uneven numbers for me?
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A dinner?! I’ve been left off the list of ENTIRE WEEKENDS AWAY because I was single. It really pissed me off. I feel ya!
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I’ve lost count the amount of times I’ve been ditched by friends because they’ve been enveloped in a new relationship. Then when it ends they want to be friends again. Um . . . No! I’m not your fallback friend damn you!
Now that I’m single (I love that I’m saying that now, it’s all kinds of awesome) I would actually love to experience the couple bubble but it’s a permeable bubble that others can come into as well. I hate the thought of excluding people. It’s not right I tell you!
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I actually made a decision when I started dating my husband that I didn’t want to become one of those schmoopy only-hangs-out-with-other-couples couples.
I made an effort to still see my single girlfriends both by myself and with Brad.
Eight years down the track and we still spend loads of time with our single friends … Rick, there is always a place at our table for you! xxxx
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I love this Bec, and how sad is it that I didn’t even realise I only hang around other couples before I read your comment. I will definitely make an effort to change this as I so don’t want to be one of those people.
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Over the past 19 years R and I have pretty much burnt-off all of our pre-coupling friends…but now we have a smaller bunch of post-coupling friends…it all works out in the end…it’s the cosmic balance…the circle of life…
Sorry Rick, but as the guy with the ferret on his head says, “Your fired!”
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Yep, it’s pretty much inevitable after more than a decade together – there’s nothing worse than knowing that your partner doesn’t ‘get’ your friends or vice versa. The Mutual Tolerance Society can get a bit tiring after a while…
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Love this! My group of girls (and there’s 6 of us) are all in long-term relationships and I’ve been single for 3 years.. I couldn’t be more over it. And it’s SO much more difficult to mingle when I’m out with them – they’re not interested in meeting new people, they have each other after all!
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You’ve reminded me of something…Two sisters I know, both pretty, really tall and just larger than life. They’d spend a lot of time together and both were single for forever and day it seemed. The youngest went off to America then promptly fell for someone and moved there, the other sister soon fell for someone as well. Neither are with those same partners but they both had the strong sense that their combined personas and somewhat intimidating appearance (they’re teddy bears disguised as blonde Amazonians) put guys off. Same thing happened again, when they weren’t joined at the hip they met their now husbands so you being amongst a large group of people when you’re out might be having an effect. I don’t know, just a lame theory…
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No, I’ve definitely considered this theory myself and think you could be right. Although short of going out by myself, I’m not really sure how to overcome it..
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The only times that I’m alone are either when I’m at the foreshore or doing something outdoorsy or catching a flick otherwise…It’s just dawned on me. I’m always with at least one or two people (safety zone) and very focused on them and insular or I’m flitting here there and everywhere or as a sensible old Dame said of me recently “You’re a busy Lizzie, just stop for a second!” Hmmm…Food for thought.
Let’s make a deal to test out our theory! I’m not going to suddenly frequent places that aren’t me but maybe us being aware of it may swing things in our favour…
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Rick, you are my new hero… Mwah. I am fed up with being third wheel, being the single woman ( it gets worse when you’re a single mum, trust me)
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We must reclaim the night! That our social circle used to inhabit…
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