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You’re so sensitive. You’re so emotional. You’re defensive. You’re overreacting. Calm down. Relax. Stop freaking out! You’re crazy! I was just joking, don’t you have a sense of humor? You’re so dramatic. Just get over it already!

Sound familiar?

If you’re a woman, it probably does.

Do you ever hear any of these comments from your spouse, partner, boss, friends, colleagues, or relatives after you have expressed frustration, sadness, or anger about something they have done or said?

When someone says these things to you, it’s not an example of inconsiderate behavior. When your spouse shows up half an hour late to dinner without calling—that’s inconsiderate behavior. A remark intended to shut you down like, “Calm down, you’re overreacting,” after you just addressed someone else’s bad behavior, is emotional manipulation – pure and simple.

And this is the sort of emotional manipulation that feeds an epidemic in our country, an epidemic that defines women as crazy, irrational, overly sensitive, unhinged. This epidemic helps fuel the idea that women need only the slightest provocation to unleash their (crazy) emotions. It’s patently false and unfair.

I think it’s time to separate inconsiderate behavior from emotional manipulation and we need to use a word not found in our normal vocabulary.

I want to introduce a helpful term to identify these reactions: gaslighting.

Gaslighting is a term, often used by mental health professionals (I am not one), to describe manipulative behavior used to confuse people into thinking their reactions are so far off base that they’re crazy.

The term comes from the 1944 MGM film, Gaslight, starring Ingrid Bergman. Bergman’s husband in the film, played by Charles Boyer, wants to get his hands on her jewelry. He realises he can accomplish this by having her certified as insane and hauled off to a mental institution. To pull off this task, he intentionally sets the gaslights in their home to flicker off and on, and every time Bergman’s character reacts to it, he tells her she’s just seeing things. In this setting, a gaslighter is someone who presents false information to alter the victim’s perception of him or herself.

The form of gaslighting I’m addressing is not always pre-mediated or intentional, which makes it worse, because it means all of us, especially women, have dealt with it at one time or another.

Those who engage in gaslighting create a reaction—whether it’s anger, frustration, sadness—in the person they are dealing with. Then, when that person reacts, the gaslighter makes them feel uncomfortable and insecure by behaving as if their feelings aren’t rational or normal.

My friend Anna (all names changed to protect privacy) is married to a man who feels it necessary to make random and unprompted comments about her weight. Whenever she gets upset or frustrated with his insensitive comments, he responds in the same, defeating way, “You’re so sensitive. I’m just joking.”

My friend Abbie works for a man who finds a way, almost daily, to unnecessarily shoot down her performance and her work product. Comments like, “Can’t you do something right?” or “Why did I hire you?” are regular occurrences for her. Her boss has no problem firing people (he does it regularly), so you wouldn’t know that based on these comments, Abbie has worked for him for six years. But every time she stands up for herself and says, “It doesn’t help me when you say these things,” she gets the same reaction: “Relax; you’re overreacting.”

Abbie thinks her boss is just being a jerk in these moments, but the truth is, he is making those comments to manipulate her into thinking her reactions are out of whack. And it’s exactly that kind manipulation that has left her feeling guilty about being sensitive, and as a result, she has not left her job.

But gaslighting can be as simple as someone smiling and saying something like, “You’re so sensitive,” to somebody else. Such a comment may seem innocuous enough, but in that moment, the speaker is making a judgment about how someone else should feel.

While dealing with gaslighting isn’t a universal truth for women, we all certainly know plenty of women who encounter it at work, home, or in personal relationships.

And the act of gaslighting does not simply affect women who are not quite sure of themselves. Even vocal, confident, assertive women are vulnerable to gaslighting.

Why?

Because women bare the brunt of our neurosis. It is much easier for us to place our emotional burdens on the shoulders of our wives, our female friends, our girlfriends, our female employees, our female colleagues, than for us to impose them on the shoulders of men.

It’s a whole lot easier to emotionally manipulate someone who has been conditioned by our society to accept it. We continue to burden women because they don’t refuse our burdens as easily. It’s the ultimate cowardice.

Whether gaslighting is conscious or not, it produces the same result: it renders some women emotionally mute.

This is an extract from Yashar’s post. You can read Yashar’s full blog post by clicking here.

Have you ever been the victim of “gaslighting”?

Yashar Ali is a Los Angeles-based blogger, commentator, and political veteran whose writing is showcased on The Current Conscience. You can read Yashar’s blog by clicking here or follow him on Twitter here or see him on Facebook here.

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    Anonymous

    BRILLIANT post. I am going through something at the moment whereby someone in my circle is gaslighting me!

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    Bunny

    My older sister used to do this to me a lot. Fortunately, not so much now, but on occasion she’ll say, sounding desperate and like she’s at her wit’s end “Calm down!” or “Get over it!”

    She’s quick to open her mouth and can be very insensitive sometimes so either of those two statements on top of it will just send me even closer to tears.

    My husband has witnessed it and is great at the one-liners to get her to shut up but when he’s not around… well, I’ve been known to go into a room to get away from her and cry.

    I think she actually makes those kind of ‘commands’ to get me to stop reacting the way I am and to make herself feel better when she realises she’s hurt me.

    It’s a very ugly part of her character… I don’t know how to get her to change it. My parents and my siblings are all aware of it but I think mum just tries to brush it off because it’s one or two unpleasant moments in what’s otherwise a nice family occasion. To me, that’s just excusing her behaviour. As a nearly 34-year-old my sister should know better.

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    Danae Sinclair

    Great post… I’ve been using the term gaslighting for years – to describe the behaviour of my ex husband as he undermined my confidence and sanity in order to gain power in our relationship. It is subtle abuse, and more common than is recognised.

    Thanks for reminding me how lucky I am to be free of it now!

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    Vanessa

    A brilliant, brilliant post drawing attention to an issue so common that most people don’t even know it’s an issue. Thank you!

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    K

    Thank you for this piece. At a former job, I was told this after reacting to a sexist & offensive remark… I wish now I had backed my intial reaction and stood up for myself instead of backing down.

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    annie

    This is a really good description of something which obviously resonates with people it could be good to follow this up with some quick comeback lines which we could all use and some longer term strategies. Any suggestions?

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    susanbrennan

    My ex husband did this to me. All the time. It’s not just gaslighting, it’s emotional abuse. It leaves the victim feeling off kilter, confused and usually afraid that they are really are what the abuser says they are. And then, just when you think all is well and he likes you again… BAM! He does it again. It’s insidious and creeps up on the victim until they are so unsure of who they are and what is the right reaction to something, their self esteem takes an enormous battering. It’s sad because, the abuser is unlikely to change, and the abused is so emotionally crippled by it that they are unlikely to do anything about it. Physical abuse is easier to see and believe. Gaslighting and verbal and emotional abuse is frightening and is harder to convince others that there is a problem.

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      susanbrennan

      Oh and this is not only something men do. A lot of teenagers these days, do the same to their mothers.

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        Batman's Cave

        Yeah add to the list co-workers and employers… working in male dominated companies, men would always use an excuse to bypass you in terms of promotions etc because “you’re too emotional” – yeah right! Just another term for saying “You’re a female and this is a boys’ club!” Or sometimes people confuse passion for emotion….

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    Jess

    I remember reading this a while ago and going…. Oh! this is what my Mum and Stepdad did to ALL of us. My only problem with the article is that Ali never addressed the fact that women gaslight as well, and men can be victims – However, I do completely understand WHY he took the stand he did. There was a fantastic discussion Re this article on Feministe.

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    flickity

    oh my god, resonates is an understatement! My immediate family members have done this to me all my life – with my sister being the worst perpetrator of all! If I ever tell her that something she’s said is not ok with me, in a calm way mind you, she always manages to make me feel wrong for reacting that way. I don’t think she’s ever apologised to me for upsetting me.
    Great to see this article!

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    Jeannie Ibarra

    I’ve come across this article before, and it still resonates. While I know plenty of women who get caught into the behavior habit of being too emotional and overreactive, I know that each one of them went through years of emotional manipulation before getting that way.

    My first husband was a functional but unmedicated paranoid schizophrenic. I was too young and inexperienced to counteract a lot of his manipulations, but I went through gaslighting to the extreme. He would play “pranks” that he considered needed a sense of humor, but which designed to make me believe that I was the crazy one. It would take hundreds of pages to reveal all of these pranks as benign as slipping behind me to steal the sandwhich that I had just made for him and insisting to the end that I never made one-I would find them stuffed in drawers and the linen closet and elsewhere, later, and when confronted, he would insist that I had done it. When my sons acted as my witness, he’d just play it off as a joke and then tell me that I lacked a sense of humor. Move on the end game of the bullets spilled out on the floor, the revolver missing, the hours I spent screaming searching for him, then the many hours I spent at his knee begging him to give me the gun, only for him to finally laugh and admit it was never loaded, and I just needed to have a sense of humor. Not too many people have an extreme story like this, but dare anyone try to be inconsiderate adn refuse accountability by telling me that I need to learn how to take a joke, and I will very calmly explain to them that they should go no further with that strategy.

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    Loz

    WOW. Thank you so MUCH for this post. Really – I can’t thank you enough!

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    Sally

    You are so correct. A lot of men are extremely manipulative and bully people, get ‘upset’ at other people’s negative reaction toward them, then think it is the other person being unreasonable. A lot of people just don’t see the flaws in themselves.

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    MotherR

    To all those below who say they don’t get it, you are probably right. It takes a lot of insight to know if this has been happening to you because it is very subtle.

    It’s not the same as your husband and you telling each other when you really ARE overreacting. That is fine between friends or partners.

    Gaslighting is different to that. It’s hard to describe but my mother has done it to me for years and so has my ex-partner, but it has only just dawned on me recently and this article has also helped, especially by giving it a name.

    It is a matter of conditioning and it is done by the other person (usually not consciously like the example from the film, because my mother and partner are not monsters) in such a way that you could feel like you are going mad because you are saying or feeling one thing and they are convincing you that it isn’t real. It does chip away at the authentic ‘you’.

    And, as the author points out, it says more about THEIR emotional state than yours, as they are often the ones who don’t want to ‘feel’ and can’t cope that you do want to ‘feel’. They are confronted with a person who tries to make them feel and they are uncomfortable. It becomes a vicious circle because it only serves to make you more sensitive, therefore breaking down your defences.

    The author is spot on.

    But someone please tell Yashar that the correct term I think is ‘bear the brunt’ not ‘bare the brunt’.

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    Simba

    I have experienced gaslighting at work. We had a company infringe our IP. When I wrote a very firm and professional email detailing the infringement I received a phone call where the male on the line said ‘ he could tell I was upset’. He tried to turn something I communicated rationally into something else. It’s pathetic when men do this.

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    Paul

    I have been brought up in a predominantly female family, and am currently surrounded by an even mix of both male and female friends and work colleagues.
    I’ve found that for the most part women react more negatively to criticism, find it harder to let go and are more likely to take jokes / sarcastic remarks to heart. As a result, I’ve learnt to adjust the way I communicate with my mother, sister, partner, female friends and co-workers to avoid creating an issue over something I would deem trivial.
    Regardless of gender, the only time I “gaslight” is when someone becomes extremely defensive, emotional or angry during a conversation. Rather than get shut out, I request that they “calm down” or “relax” so we can engage in a conversation like two adults, get to the core of the problem and move on.
    As a man I would argue that most males aren’t “gaslighting” women with the intention to manipulate, because most of us just don’t have the foresight to think that deeply.

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      nursee

      I’m glad you said this. I believe my ex-bf was gaslighting but not all the time. I think sometimes he genuinely was joking around and I took it to heart when I should have laughed it off. I guess the important part is being able to talk about it and understand each others point of view.

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      trishegoodfield

      Yep! You’re right. In my experience the men who consciously engage in this behaviour are few and far between. Women, or anybody, have the choice to walk away when they don’t like what they hear.

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    Gabs

    This was the main technique used to bully me in school over an extended period of time. It was like torture and you do feel like you’re going insane because you don’t understand how your perception can be so divergent to other people’s- especially if you’re being ganged up on by more than one person and being told that you’re being silly/over-emotional etc.

    On a separate point I don’t think that this type of manipulation is perpetrated exclusively by men (my bullies were female) but I do think that the victims of it are predominantly women, for the exact reasons you’ve given.

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    elle

    Thankyou for publishing this post! What a revelation! This has happened to me SO many times! I would know deep down that the behaviour was not okay and my reaction was perfectly normal, but begin to doubt myself when told over and over ‘you’re crazy/overreacting/too dramatic/too sensitive’, ‘its not a big deal’, ‘get over it’ etc. It is incredibly frustrating and isolating when you are not heard & made to feel crazy when you know you’re perfectly reasonable!

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    clarinette

    people are fighting about gender imbalance here, but the term gaslighting is most used when referring to abuse of a narcissist….NPD is more predominant among men therefore women are the most victimized ones, unless the N is gay that is….

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      Anonymous

      yay, lets justify a sexist, biased blog with technobabble. yay.

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    Just Saying

    In reply to Anonymous –

    “I didnt dig any hole, just drawing an analogy to a person that only sees one side of a 2 sided coin – I think it is valid in this context – there are a few people on here that seem to be cut from the same mould, and I am not sure the eternal search for the ways women are victims in everything makes for a happy pleasant person really. Choose the fights that matter, and I will be standing there next to you. Focussing lights on trivial stuff, and making gender issues out of things that are not gender related just takes the focus off of the things that really matter, on both sides of the gender divide.”

    Pray please tell, how much reaction is the right amount?

    Who gets to choose the fights? Do you?

    Who gets to decide what makes for a happy life for women?

    How trivial are the issues that have been brought up? Why do you get to decide they are too trivial?

    Who gets to decide whether an issue is gender related or not? Would you be the person deciding that for us?

    Who really gets to decide what really matters to women Anonymous?

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    Rachel

    Really??? I don’t get it. If I get fired up over nothing and my husband tells me to calm down, how is that emotional manipulation? I much prefer he tells me than let me carry on like a muppet. I do the same for him when he is being a dickhead. Come on people, lighten up.

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      Anonymous

      Agree 100% Rachel, you rock. A voice of reason and perspective.

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      clarinette

      Dude, that’s because your husband is not emotionally manipulative, he just actually wants you to calm down…..that’s unrelated!

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      There is a massive difference between getting fired up over nothing, and being legitimately upset about something, only to have your feelings/opinion dismissed as stupid, inconvenient or an overeaction.

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    Anonymous

    Now to work out how to make him stop…

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    Anonymous

    Yippie!!!, We’ve invented another way women can be victims…it was almost an hour since this site threw a female victim angle out there, I was getting worried we had addressed all of them and MM would have to close down.

    So, what is it when a man is told to ‘suck it up’ , ‘man up’ ‘grow some’, ‘get a grip’ etc etc. Oh sorry, thats right, in that context, the man IS over reacting and is the problem in that instance too – how silly of me.

    It must be tiring constantly looking for ways you are being treated as victims girls.

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      Anonymous

      *rolls eyes*

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      Caitlin

      Actually, those examples you gave of men being told to “suck it up” are actually examples of sexism and how it affects men. Sexism isn’t just against women, and perpetuating gender stereotypes, whether they be of hysterical women or unemotional, indifferent, tough men is harmful to everyone.

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        Anonymous

        Exactly my point, thank you. Why is it only ever seen as an issue against women, why is it only women that are ever victims. If anything, men are WAY more constrained by society in how they can react and show emotion.

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      clarinette

      Hey, pss, anonymous!! Not Biting .

      :D

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        Anonymous

        Go on, you know you want to. Call me emotional and ask me to calm down. Go on, you can, I am male.

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          clarinette

          mhhh a pretty male lure all shinyyyyy….no still not hungry :p

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      Just Saying

      “It must be tiring constantly looking for ways you are being treated as victims girls”

      Congratulations, you have just perfectly illustrated the exact point that the author was trying to make about how men “gaslight” women in to believing their experience holds no value.

      Its so awesome when the men looking to cut down women’s progress come on here and try to invalidate over a hundred comments from women supporting the argument the author is making.

      Thank you for proving yet again that there is still so much work to be done in the quest for everyone to be treated fairly and equally.

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        Anonymous

        wow, women are victims now if you even tell them they play the victim card too often, there is another victim story for MM. Great.

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          Just saying

          Your total lack of empathy for others and sheer ignorance is actually comical in an environment like like this. Why even come here if it offends you so greatly? Im genuinely intrigued.

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            Anonymous

            To keep the discussion honest, and to give a dose of reality and perspective (which is sadly lacking on this site for the most part). And to suggest that empathy isnt just a one sided gender issue.

            You will thank me when you dont turn out a bitter old Germaine Greer later in life.

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              Just Saying

              Hahaha. I have nothing to say. You just dug yourself a bigger hole with the ridiculous Germaine Greer comment.

              Thank you yet AGAIN for illustrating the article to its full effect. You legend.

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              Anonymous

              I didnt dig any hole, just drawing an analogy to a person that only sees one side of a 2 sided coin – I think it is valid in this context – there are a few people on here that seem to be cut from the same mould, and I am not sure the eternal search for the ways women are victims in everything makes for a happy pleasant person really. Choose the fights that matter, and I will be standing there next to you. Focussing lights on trivial stuff, and making gender issues out of things that are not gender related just takes the focus off of the things that really matter, on both sides of the gender divide.

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              Kerryn

              I think I know you. If not, I know someone just like you. Don’t fan the flame, people…

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              Jane the Bogan

              yes, even at a dinner party i’d call you a tosser

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      dfordezi

      Nobody said any of that. Why are you so upset by this article? Not gas lighting, just interested to know why you care so much to react this way if this is all about girls being victims? You’re not one, so why the vitriol? Oh, and why anonymous, you need to man up dude… And get a name.

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        Anonymous

        Gas lighted for being a man, oh the pain, the pain. I am just sick of the constant one sided gender victim angles on this site, they seem to be getting more and more regular – kind of tiring really.

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          dfordezi

          I’m not a victim of anything. How about you? You sound like a whinger with no googling skills. Find a male oriented site if you dislike this one so much.

          Thanks for playing!

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      Nicki

      OK, you’ve made your point. You can stop now.

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      MotherR

      No, it can happen to men too. In fact men have been told to repress their feelings for so long now that many have been affected greatly. The reason why it seems to be more of a problem for women is because women probably keep trying (banging their head against a wall) whereas many men have long since given up because they have been conditioned over generations – much to their detriment. I think it is more about how the less emotional people cope with the more emotional people, by shutting them down. I mentioned my mother in an earlier post, so it’s not just men against women.

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    Claudia

    This is fantastic!!

    I remember doing a comparative study of newspaper language used in regards to politicians and when upset, women politicians were described as ‘hysterical’ and male politicians described as ‘passionate’.

    I hate being told to ‘calm down’, there’s really nothing more patronising as it’s totally dismissing the reason you’re upset in the first place.

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      Anonymous

      I have never once heard of a female politician being referred to that way – can you show me an australian example please….

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        Claudia

        Just do a bit of research and google it, there are plenty of examples of the different language used for female/male politicians.

        I can’t provide specific examples of something I worked on in 2002 I’m afraid, but we were analysing papers from the UK and from Aus.

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          Anonymous

          You cant show an example, ok then. I cant ever recall hearing a female pollie called ‘hysterical’, I was just interested to see just one example.

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            Claudia

            I’m going through uni documents as we speak, I’d actually like to read it again so if I find it I’ll post it here :)

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              Anonymous

              With respect, the fact you have to hunt so hard says it all really.

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              Claudia

              Sorry Anon, but what are you talking about?!

              The reason I’m hunting for it is it’s because it’s from university from NINE years ago….it’s got nothing to do with the content, which as I tried to explain politely is EVERYWHERE on the net.

              I’m just trying (was trying) to find this specific study as I thought you were interested.

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              Anonymous

              You made a statement, as often happens on MM, stating evidence of how badly women are treated, but as is often the case, the examples used are not based in fact. All I am asking for is an Australian example where female pollies are called ‘hysterical’ in the media. If it is all over the net, it should be easy.

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            Alison

            Claudia, he/she (anon) is trying to make you angry.

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            Googler

            OK, Anonymous, I’ll play. The five minutes I chose to spend actually replying to your query to Claudia produced this find via google (see below). While I cannot specifically locate a reference to female politicians being accused of being ‘hysterical’, I think what Claudia is referring to is the perception that any display of emotion or passion instantly becomes gendered, and not in a positive way in the case of women politicians.

            Tasmanian Senator David Bushby making ‘meow’ noises in response to Senator Penny Wong, is, I think, an appropriate example.The insult was ‘gendered’ and the explanation for it is gaslighting.

            “A spokeswoman for Senator Bushby accused Senator Wong of being overly sensitive and using her “gender” to hide her over-reaction to a simple request.”

            Read more: http://www.news.com.au/national/senator-david-bushbys-cat-call-at-penny-wong-sparks-sexism-row/story-e6frfkvr-1226067184590#ixzz1dpRqTb5E

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    tastebud

    Emotional and verbal abuse is the most slippery and insidious type of domestic violence.

    It almost always precedes (and always accompanies) financial, geographical, physical and sexual abuse.

    Therefore, ANY education or information which assists our ability to recognise and name it deserves our attention.

    Thanks Yashar and MM.

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    Jessica

    I really appreciate this. As a person who thinks analytically, I know that I can overanalyse some situations. However, I think that being a woman makes people more likely to disregard what I am saying. It gets a lot worse when, as a result of being ignored, the tone of my voice gets higher.

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      MotherR

      I have read somewhere else that ignoring is one of the abusive behaviours that inflicts a lot of emotional pain on someone, so is a very cruel tactic – even more so than name calling and other types of abuse. That is why your voice gets higher or louder because you really are sufferring and the other person is in total control. Shudder. Interesting, isn’t it?

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    Tallulah

    Huh. I really don’t think I’ve witnessed this or been the victim of this much. -sigh- I probably am. And now I’m going to notice it.

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    Just Saying

    Dear Mamamia team,

    I just clicked on the authors blog and came across this amazing film about the (mis)representation of women in the media. Please check it out.

    http://missrepresentation.org/home.html

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      L E Bee

      Wow, thanks for sharing that link. Even the 3 minute preview was thought-provoking and powerful.

      My mouth literally dropped open when the man’s answer to Bill O’Reilly’s question about the downsides of a female President of the US is “Well, you mean, besides the PMS and mood swings.”

      I wish I was living somewhere near the screenings!

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        Just Saying

        I think it might be airing on the SBS soon. I hope they show it at independent theatres.

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    sigh

    this is a really good article. it’s clear and descriptive. makes clear the ways in which dismissive, disenfranchising comments diminish the ways that people in subordinate social, employment or interpersonal relations have their access to protect their rights compromised. (and yes blokes, sorry this does mean I recognise that women as a general rule suffer more of these subordinate relationships than blokes … sad but true – but I’m not up for discussing it today … cos it gets boring … justifying reality and all)

    … the blokes commenting today are a bit off their rocker … I usually indulge the gender debate … but today’s comments are just no challenge at all … the logic is non-existent …. I’m reading lots of male complaints about men’s victimisation … with simultaneous ‘harden up princess’ comments directed at women in general … either blokes are victims and therefore women can be victimised too, or women need to harden up and the blokes ought to stop complaining too … just saying … made for a good chuckle though … the absurdity of it … :)

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    Just Saying

    I think I may have been gaslighted today by the owner of my local café this morning. I ordered a juice.

    He didn’t fill up the juice to the top of the cup so I remarked, you want me to pay $5.50 for a juice that is not full? I am a very regular customer so that is the only reason I felt I could say this to him.

    He sighed, and goes oh ok and added two more apples and filled it up begrudgingly for me.

    I thanked him and I said in a jovial way “at least I wasn’t ordering anything with bananas in it” trying to overcompensate for the fact that he was annoyed with me.

    The girl working for him goes – “and we haven’t even increased the price on our banana smoothies even though the cost of the bananas is astronomical”

    I joked – “oh I wish I had ordered a banana smoothie now”

    The guy goes “oh you women, always changing your mind all the time”

    I go, “no I didn’t change my mind I just think that a banana smoothie sounds like good value” and even the girl remarked. “yeah she never changed her mind”

    It’s just so ubiquitous to be slightly put down on a daily basis for just being a woman that you don’t even notice it till an article like this is written.

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    missamoo

    I get it constantly!. Mostly under the guise of “you are a stronger personality you just have to ……… (mostly be the bigger person, let this one go,take the blame etc etc) Also today i was involved in car accident that was not my fault with an uninsured P plater in his dads mercedes benz. Within minutes there was a witness saying she was behind me and saw that i wasn’t looking. Really from behind my head you saw where my eyes were??. Then his daddy showed up and several of his mates. I was little freaked so i called the cops an hour later i rang and they advised they would not be showing up. I told the guy this and his father says “Do you admit fault?” i said no your son drove through a stop sign. the father then says “No you don’t leave until police come, or you admit fault then you can go!” I backed away from him and he says what is your problem i said well there are three of you and one of me and if this goes badly i can’t take all of you on ( not counting the sick cat in my carrier). Then all of a sudden he drops the intimidation and shakes his head like i’m nuts and they wouldn’t hurt a fly bastards!!!

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    JanelleC68

    Thanks Yashar, now I have another word in my vocabulary to describe my ex-husband, apart from f**kwit.
    He used to regularly say he’d told me something, like an important phone message, when I know damn well he hadn’t. I was on the edge of doubting my own sanity whenthe lighbulb went on & left him.

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    Nicki

    “Are you having your period?” Gaslighting masquerading as a question – especially when the person asking KNOWS you’re not.

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      Michelle15

      This one annoys me so much! It is basically saying “your feelings are not valid because your menstruating”.

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    mmmm

    I found this article really interesting and I can see that I do have people who gaslight in my life but (I will speak for myself) I am also really aware that under the influence of hormones I can behave really irrationally and be over sensitive and take jokes the wrong way and totally over react in situations escalating them and making things worse. I suppose my problem is working out when someone is gaslighting and when they have a valid point. I’m not saying there is any excuse for emotional abuse but I know that PMT and pregnancy hormones have made me at times really confusing and difficult to live with. I just don’t think it’s as cut and dried as the above article makes out. None of us are perfect. When my five year old daughter cries hysterically I sit with her and ask her to breath and to use her words to describe what is going on with her. Shouting and yelling and crying are not very effective ways to communicate your feelings. I don’t feel like I’m gaslighting her just trying to get her to put her emotions into words so we can move on. Maybe sometimes that is what my friends and partners are asking of me. I believe that some women use their emotional reality to manipulate the men or women around them and that is just as emotionally abusive.

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      Nicki

      mmmm, I’m glad you asked. I would like to ask you a few questions. If someone has broken their promise to you, do you get upset? If someone has an irritating habit, do you get upset? If someone has a valid criticism of you, do you get upset? How do you think you should react to each of these situations? And what response do you think is reasonable to each of these reactions?

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    JohnJames

    I just noticed that Yashar posted a follow up to his original post on his Blog: http://thecurrentconscience.com/blog/2011/09/16/gaslighting-a-follow-up/

    Again, it is a strange mix of common sense, but also possibly a little condescending at the same time…

    In his follow-up he says:

    There is also no doubt that men can and do face gaslighting. I have faced it strongly during specific moments in my life. But adult men (including me) do not face gaslighting as a result of our gender, we deal with gaslighting by landing in a specific circumstance (a relationship, a parent).

    The whole point of my work is to point out and address the obstacles and inequities women face because they are simply born women. I cannot address individual relationships nor do I attempt to shine light on them. My job, in my mind, is to shine light on a pattern of behavior that exists because women are born with a different set of chromosomes. It is unfair.

    I could be mis-interpreting what he is saying, but it just feels like he is putting women up on a pedestal a little bit…and trying to “protect” women…

    While I agree with most of the article, it’s how he presents his argument that grates with me…like I said, I find it a little condescending to women…but maybe that’s just me…

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      Just Saying

      As a woman and I can only speak for myself and how I feel about it – I do not feel that his follow up on gaslighting was condescending or putting women up on a pedestal in any way at all.

      I breathed a sigh of relief that there is a man out there that really gets it. And that gives me hope.

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    sometimeskaren

    I’ve encountered this behaviour with people of both genders.

    It’s not a male/female problem.

    It’s simply another tactic used by bullies who think that mindgames are fun.

    They’re not. Grow up.

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      Bradley

      Karen, I agree with you on this. The article is about bullying, despite the fancy new term applied by Mr Ali.

      Bullies, bully. They don’t care about your gender. They are of no specific gender. So let’s call a spade a spade, put the term “gaslighting” out into the pasture where it belongs and say it as it is.

      There is no place for the bully.

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      mgoolie

      I agree. I only seem to get that behaviour from a woman at work, which catches me off-guard and renders me speechless.

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    Anonymous

    Oh, I get it… Men are cruel (sometimes without even knowing they’re cruel) gaslighters who should never antagonise women because when they do, women have every right to react in any way they deem acceptable, even if that means screaming, or crying hysterically, or having a nervous breakdown.
    If the roles were reversed however, men would get labeled as aggressive for raising their voice, distant for not weeping with emotion, or careless for retorting with sarcasm.
    This article is a straight up puff piece…

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      Chrissy

      Actually, no you don’t get it at all

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      Faybian

      Didn’t you read a bit further when the author said men were also the victims of it? It was posted not far above this. Notice you posted as anonymous….

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    becsparrow

    Several years ago I was in an emotionally abusive relationship. A book that helped me greatly was “The Verbally Abusive Relationship: how to recognise it and how to respond” by Patricia Evans. I’ve just loaned my copy to a friend but in the book Evans gives great examples for come-backs to help reclaim your power in the relationship. It also can act as a circuit breaker and shock the abuser. I can’t recommend it highly enough.

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      Margaret

      Yes I have one of her books, my counsellor recommeded I read her stuff. It’s quite an eye opener to realise that the person you think thought was just “an asshole” “belligerent” is in fact emotionally abusive. It was a revelation to me to finally be able to put a name on it. The book I got was about people who try and control you. I think most of her books are about emotional abuse in one form or another. She also uses the term gaslighting…at least I think she does.

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      tastebud

      That book changed my life. Perhaps even saved it.

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      Mia

      I WISH I’d known about that book when I was 22……

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      Summer

      That book definitely saved my life. I finally had some understanding of what was going on in my relationship and could put a name to it. My partner was in every category, especially the “Anger Addict” part. He was a professional gaslighter… By the time I realised I was in trouble, I questioned every decision I made and thought I was going crazy and sought professional help. Then through therapy, realised that actually I was very normal and my partner had a borderline sociopathic personality disorder and was actually a very dangerous man.

      Thank goodness I got away from him, but that book was the catalyst, I highly recommend it to everyone – whether in a verbally abusive relationship or not, it’s good to know about it.

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      Anonymous

      Just looking it up now – is there any significant difference between the editions? Published in 1993, 2003, 2010 – I was going to go the 2003 to save $5…

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    edie-louisediemar

    Oh my, I’ve never thought of it that way. I honestly would think I was over reacting when I took offense to a males friend’s “joke”…

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    Kathy

    This was such a well written article! I know I have overreacted to things and been overly sensitive at times but I also know that in relationships I have apologized for calling my boyfriend when he said he was on his way home and 2 hours later isn’t home. Yet when I saw him the way it turned was that I was saying sorry for calling to find out where he was! I would love it if gaslighting entered our daily vernacular and we called people out on it more I think it could easily happen!

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    Don't Fcuck with Pregnant Mumma

    How freaky! Good timing with this:
    Yes I am pregnant. However No preggie brain. No loss of intelligence. Don’t even insult my intelligence by alluding to anything of the sort! You will have a rather unhappy and perfectly capable woman telling you where you can shove it!
    Just rang my new age intelligent sensitive (ha ha ha just joking) partner to ask him where he got his MRI done… Wanted to know for a friend’s hubby who is very ill. Anyway my partner got knickers in a knot…Don’t ask me why/I dunno/ AND he should’ve asked me why I needed to know instead of passing judgement. He proceeded to insult me with an inappropriate and judgemental and agro attitude/tone and comments: ‘geez you’re anxious’ (perhaps thinking it was relating to things happening in our life currently ?) and then, ‘you’re breathlesss’ (Weird comment, but der I am heavily pregnant so what do you fricken think… Breathlessness does occur, expecially when one is blowing up at one’s partner about dickhead comments!). My best response to him was FCUK OFF! Have also found my mother to be a gaslighter too! My response to that is to cut her toxic arse out of my life for the time being! Take shit from noone – Over it!

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      Daniella

      Hell yeah. You go girl! (I realised that may sound a little patronising but I swear, it’s not. I’m genuinely about to go all Beyonce on everyone’s ass)

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    Montana

    I had a close female friend that I grew up with who was gaslighting me all the time but thanks to my own lack of self confidence, I thought she was right. She always said, ‘Calm down’ which just had the opposite effect and on reflection, my manner was completely calm. I was a teenager and am now 31 so I feel so much more aware of gaslighting (although I never knew to call it that) and am comfortable in my response to people as me. I’m not one to fly off the hanger and go nuts anyway (unless its worthy of a nutso reaction) so if someone doesn’t like my reaction they might need to work on their delivery.

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    Kate

    My bf does this to avoid hearing about the inapproriateness of his racism and homophobia. He’ll genuinely be a jerk about a gay guy or someone from a diff culture/nationality. When I pull him up on it he just laughs and says he’s just stirring me because ‘I’m so easy to stir’.

    But I’m not easy to stir and he’s not being a jerk because he thinks he’s stirring me. He’s being a jerk because he’s insecure and his claim to ‘stirring’ is a frustratingly insurmountable roadblock to a frank discussion about why he feels the need to react so strongly to anyone who’s different to him. Grrr

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      Anonymous

      Sounds like my ex

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      Tripitaka

      Your boyfriend sounds like bad news. I can’t even imagine how you could build a relationship with someone when your core values as individuals are so different (he being racist and homophobic, while you are not I’m assuming). Good on you for saying something when he makes those comments – I wish more people would do that! But is it time to think about whether you really want to be in the relationship?

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      MotherR

      Exactly. You’ve got it. He is trying to deflect the focus away from his issues and make it about your percieved inadequacies.

      You sound too intelligent to be with him.

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    Golden Dragon

    I find the amount of Gaslighting that is going on in these posts to be rather ironic. As this is a site and article clearly aimed at women, I find all comments complaining that it is not all about men too to be irrelevant and distracting from the point of the article.

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      Free Human Being

      Those dramatic men eh?

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        Golden Dragon

        I know right! Soooo sensitive!

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      Bradley

      Help me ! I’m being gaslighted/lit !

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    Kateateight

    Below there was a suggestion of what to say when someone tells you you are overreacting – something along the lines of asking the person “how much reaction is the correct amount? who decides?”

    This is a great response – do people have any other responses to use against gaslighters? Because I can never think of one on the spot.

    E.g. what can people say to “You need to learn how to relax”, “Here she goes…”, “It’s just a joke”, etc.

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      Sharon

      With the benefit of this article, how about “stop gaslighting me”? Might just shock them enough to derail their approach…

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        Susan As Well

        I have done this and it worked well. It’s empowering to call it for what it is.

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        MotherR

        Exactly. Call them on it. It usually makes them stop and think.

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      Faybian

      How about to the joke one: “well it’s not very good then is it?”

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    Lady

    Gaslighting can and is used as a form of emotional abuse. My ex was a pro at head games, I honestly believed I was the crazy one. Snide comments about weight, friends etc ground me down over time. I eventually left but so many people out there stay in jobs or relationships that are unhealthy because of gaslighting. It is a topic that needs discussion and I am pleased to see an article that raises awareness and I am sure it will hit a chord with men and women alike. We need to concentrate on stamping out gaslighting in all it’s forms and break the cycle of abuse.

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      justbecause

      I have just seen my hubby’s ‘joking’ comments about my weight for what they are.

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      Amanda

      I want to say that I am being verbally, mentally, abused my Gf iam lesbian…. I dont see how my Gf ioves me… I SHINE pretty happy always smiling outgoing…. maybe a bit loud at times… but dam it don’t try and kill my spirit! WHEN we were in recovery when we met at the height of my confidence new changes… but she slowly isolated me… put.down my family .. just really MEAN IN MY 34 YRS OF LIFE IVE NEVER BEEN THRU THAT…I THINK SHE HATED ME CUZ I.WAS.A HAPPY SOUL.. WELL I RELAPSED ON ALC AND I CANNOT KEEP TAKING IT. MY PAIN IS HER FUEL!! SICK

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    Anonymous

    Hmmm… before becoming a mother to boys I might have agreed with
    this theory about emotional manipulation however I don’t believe it’s a calculated response.

    Since I now spend most of my time in the company of pre-teen boys what I’ve noticed is how differently males respond to life. Generally speaking I find boys are usually much more direct, less chatty, engage in less gossip, they’re less ‘emotional’ but more quick to anger. They are less likely to worry and are more inclined to joke about or use sarcastic humour. Boys also love fiercely, forgive easily and are much less likely to hold a grudge.

    As the single female in my household, it’s been a steep learning curve for me, and I’ve had to adjust my communication style accordingly. Subsequently I choose to say less but speak more directly, retain my sense of humour and nag a whole lot less. I’ve also learnt to reign in the guilt tripping and keep emotional theatrics to a minimum if I’m to retain any credibility as an authority figure.

    One of the spin-off benefits of raising boys is that I’ve learnt to ‘lighten up’, not take things so seriously or too personally, and have more fun with life.

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      Tania

      As a mother of two sons and a daughter, i agree with everything you’ve written about teenage/preteen boys.

      Thanks! T

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      missamoo

      I completely agree with you and most the girls in my family are very direct when my grandmother died one of her friends said to me your nonna was a straight shooter. I have found in my life though that people don’t like women just saying apparently it make you negative or intense. That is how my directness has worked for me

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        Faybian

        I’ve been told that I’m intimidating, as has my mum and daughter who are all the same. My husband and family (and friends) like me as I am

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    Bradley

    Sadly, in our search for personal perfection we have discovered that we cannot handle criticism. Be the criticism constructive or just plain criticism for the sake of criticism, we don’t like our foibles being pointed out.

    We don’t appreciate being told that we have gotten it wrong. This is particularly unappealing to those who hold themselves in particularly high esteem, believing that but that they, but for the grace of God…are God.

    If something is not as it should be, someone else is always to blame or the tools used weren’t the highest of quality. Why look at one’s own faults when excuses are becoming the norm ?

    Yes, there are times when we are overtly over-sensitive, emotional and freaking out. So yes, there ARE times we really do have to calm down and you aren’t being gaslit or partronised when you are told so.

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      Anon this time too

      Well of course we’re all over-sensitive at times and need to chill out (and most of us know it once the heat has passed), but I don’t believe that’s what the article is about – it’s about systematically invalidating someone’s reactions as a means of control or manipulation. In my experience, it wasn’t conscious on that person’s part – they weren’t evil by a long shot, they’re a good person. But they simply couldn’t handle conflict, so their tried and true response was to deny the validity of the other person’s reaction. “Oh, are you overreacting again? Typical …when will this stop?” at times when I would only have expressed minor annoyance over their behaviour. It’s a variation on attack at the best form of defence, that’s all. It has nothing to do with constructive feedback given with good intentions and real compassion when someone has become over-wrought, which most of us can recognise.

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        MotherR

        That is exactly right. This is one of the best responses and actually is almost what I said in one of mine. Awww, that’s why I like it — it’s just like mine (ha ha).

        But seriously, you hit the nail on the head with: “But they simply couldn’t handle conflict, so their tried and true response was to deny the validity of the other person’s reaction.”

        The person who gaslit me did it because they were brought up by a mother with a very strange style of communication (or lack of) and therefore there was little real discussion or conflict but much running under the surface.

        And, as I mentioned, my mother has gaslit me for years, so I was more likely to become a victim of it, because it does make you doubt yourself completely.

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      M B

      It’s not just men that do this women, I’ve been the victim of other women – even my mother does this and finally at 32 I’ve had enough to realise what is going on to have learnt how to cope with it – I have to limit my interaction with her cause she refuses to accept any responsibility for her actions or behaviour

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    Bee

    Gaslighting has historically happened a great deal to women (witchhunting anyone?) but yes, it also happens to all minority groups. And one of the biggest groups this happens to today are children:

    Don’t be such a crybaby
    I’ll give you something to cry about
    Grow up
    Because I said so, that’s why
    If you don’t do x, y, z I’ll hit you/ground you/take away your toys

    Would we dare say these things to an adult? What makes it Ok to say them to a child? Nothing. Its just a commonly condoned abuse of power in our society.

    If you don’t see it, you don’t see it. I’ve no wish to debate. But if it rings true, some highly recommended reading:

    Alice Miller’s The Body Never Lies
    Alfie Kohn’s Unconditional Parenting

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      Sharon

      Bee, that’s exactly what I was thinking about, because the implication of using these tactics on our kids is that they learn those tactics are an acceptable use of any power you might have over others… It’s no wonder we experience it in later life.

      BTW I am so pleased Mamamia has run this to raise awareness, and I love the idea of being able to label the bahaviour (other than just saying he’s being a douche, a*hole, etc!)

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      Anonymous

      Nah. You put it up there. Be open to it being questioned. While ‘gaslighting’ children does occur, one has to balance that with the greater role of parenting. If I don’t teach you that sobbing hysterically when you skin your knee is an inappropriate and extreme response at the age of seven, I’m not doing a good job. Being emotionally supportive also means giving a guide to how to react to life’s blows. It builds resilience.

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        Anonymous: I agree that parents do have to teach children a little perspective… like leaving your McDonalds toy at the playground isn’t as bad a calamity as losing your little brother at the shopping mall.

        But an injury is a worthwhile thing to get upset over in my books! If I gashed open my knee I would be pretty upset – grazes hurt! I get so angry when people tell children to harden up when they really hurt themselves. If an adult fell over in the street we wouldn’t tell them to hurry up and get up and stop crying about it.

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      MotherR

      I think you may have missed the subtlety of the definition of gaslighting. Perhaps the first one or two (and at a stretch, three) on your list are gaslighting but the others are more just bullying or intimidation or perhaps – dare I say it – just parenting.

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    This is the one area where my otherwise lovely partner falls down. When I try to explain how he has done something to upset me if I show any more emotion than a robot, he tells me I’m being hysterical and won’t talk to me when I’m ‘in this state’. The dismissal hurts so much. I should send him this article.

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      I would probably fall into this catagory. The non-talking phase for me though is my inability to process my feelings about the conflict. I am such a people pleaser that I run away when I am not perfect. I am learning though through the patience and persistence of someone who was willing to take on the project of me. I’m a frickin’ Sistine Chapel. (ie: it will take about that long to complete- me)

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      Anon too this time

      Oh, me too! An otherwise amazing partner, but until fairly recently any time we disagreed apparently my reaction was the problem, I was forever reacting in the ‘wrong’ way. I ended up seeing a counsellor because I started believing him, and then told him I was and that was why. He was totally confronted and has really tried hard since to change (and me too, by heading him off at the pass through awareness).

      I really appreciate that this was published today, it’s reminded me that we still slip up (we’re not ‘cured’), but also that I know how to and can handle it. Thanks MM team!

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      MotherR

      “Won’t talk to you when you are in this state”!!!! That goes beyond a bit of casual gaslighting! That is one of the most controlling things I have ever heard! You say he’s otherwise lovely – he’d better be otherwise SUPER lovely.

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    Anon

    My husband did that to me years ago. I ended up asking my G.P. for a referral to a psychologist. I bought all these books on anger management for women. It wasn’t until I was pregnant and had to fill out a questionnaire for post-natal depression and the midwives reacted to my answers as though I was the victim that I began to realise what was going on. He really had me believing that I had all sorts of problems. I still don’t know if he was just trying to mess with my head or if he really believed that I was a crazy person and that everything he said and did was justified by my craziness.