I had dinner the other night with two girlfriends, both of whom used to work for me, both of whom I now consider part of my inner circle. Bronwyn McCahon is the editor of Cosmo and used to be my PA when I was Cosmo editor. Zoe Foster is a blogger, author and beauty columnist who I appointed as Cosmo beauty editor many moons ago. Wait, there's a point to all this back story.
Both of these women – who are in their late twenties - have always been ambitious but it's always been quite different to my own myopic ambition at the same age. They have taken twists and tuns with their careers and have always had an open mind about what might constitute personal happiness and success. I trod a much more linear path up the career ladder until I jumped off it altogether and went my own way.
As Bron, Zoe and I shared sushi and tuna tataki earlier this week, I told them about how I'd spent part of my day hand-writing envelopes to post out the free movie tickets to mamamia competition winners and how I'd conscripted Coco to stick on the stamps. We laughed about how different this was to the days when I had a PA, dozens of staff and umpteen work experience students to do such menial tasks. They even bought my fruit.
So do I have regrets about leaving the fast track?
The Shadow Minister for Early Childhood Education, Childcare, Women & Youth, Sophie Mirabella, wrote in The Punch today that the shrinking number of women in the top management of Australia's big companies may have nothing to do with discrimination and everything to do with choice. Maybe, she suggests, women just don't WANT to break through the glass ceiling. She writes:
Some professional women have come to the conclusion that, as our
Governor General Quentin Bryce so eloquently put it, “you can have it
all, but you can’t have it all at the same time”.
Undoubtedly there are women deciding that the “work/family” balance
just gets too out of whack at the highest professional level, and they
are making the decision that “having a life” comes before pursuing a
career – for now at least.
Perhaps it’s no co-incidence that this data on women’s declining
role at the Executive level is released on the same day that a study by
the University of Sydney shows that Australians work some of the
longest hours in the developed world.
About one in five Australians now work more than 50 hours a week –
and in professional jobs, there’s no doubt that proportion is much
higher. What time does that leave for having, let alone enjoying, a
family?
The trend towards women taking up part-time employment and rapidly
increasing participation rates in those aged over 50, also suggest that
family-based decision making might be a factor.
Perhaps women are making the “sacrifice” of not pursuing their career
in order to ensure that they are able to manage the work of running a
home and caring for young children, of which working women still do the
lions share in most Australian households.
A recent study found that on average Australian fathers spend just
one minute a day alone with their children during the working week.
One minute a day.
The argument could of course be made that women are being “forced”
to take up the slack because men still aren’t taking equal
responsibility – that for all the advancements over the years, we are
still essentially “chained” by the drudgery of these “chores”.
No doubt a case can be made for the need for quality childcare, for
family friendly and flexible workplaces, for the menfolk to pitch in
with the housework more – and these are all factors that affect women’s
participation and advancement in the workplace.
But before we cry “gender foul” and raise the spectre of
discrimination and the need for “quotas”, we must also allow for the
possibility that a growing proportion of women- including university
educated professional women – have made a choice not to pursue their
careers to the highest levels. That they’ve worked out where their
priorities (and the joys in life) actually lie.
We must allow for the fact – not often debated and discussed in
polite circles - that many women, while immensely enjoying their
careers, view parenting as their most satisfying and important role in
life.
There is truth to what she says and I am proof of that. I could have chosen to continue my corporate career in management but I pressed the eject button two years ago when I left what was then Australia's leading media company, PBL. I ejected for a number of reasons including the fact that I was no longer fulfilled by the constant politics and stress and people management that comprises any management role.
HOWEVER. I don't think we should let companies and business and governments off the hook so easily. If women are walking away from their corporate careers because it's too hard to balance those demands with the demands of having a family or a life, we have to ask why.
Is it because there isn't decent, affordable childcare? Is it because the demands of corporate life are unrealistic and not conducive to ANY kind of employee life balance? Or is it just because the next generation of women are defining their success in the broader context of their lives and other priorities?





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Don’t have enough money to buy a car? Worry not, because that’s possible to take the business loans to work out all the problems. Thus get a financial loan to buy all you want.
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Women just can’t win these days. I spent my 20′s and early 30′s working and saving, paying off a house and travelling. Now I’m 36 and told I’m too over the hill to have a child and that women should be breeding in their 20′s. How then, am I supposed to support myself (ie. working and paying a mortgage) and raise a child in my 20s – I CAN’T have it all at the same time!
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geez Lu – how sad
– I couldn’t stomach that – if we had to change our lives upside down we would rather that than have our child feel the way your friend’s children do
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I stayed home with my child until he was 4 years old and now I work part-time 3 days a week (my hubby looks after him the rest of the week and takes him to kindy).
I had no problem finding a job and resuming my career
I believe, if you have something to offer you you can have your career back and your child won’t miss out on those most important early years.
I very much agree, you can have it all but not at the same time.
I personally would rather live on bread and water, then letting complete strangers raising my precious baby in some childcare centre.
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If more men had access to part time/flexible working hours, this would go a long way to assist many women to pursue their careers. I believe the lack of workplace flexibility available to men is one of the major reasons women are unable to “have it all”.
Incidentally, my children have gone child care part time and their carers are certainly not “complete strangers”. They are wonderful, dedicated, devoted, hard working people who genuinely love the children and whom we have come to know very well.
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It only gets harder when the children are older and can actually complain to you about what they see they are missing out on. I have a friend who is a GP. She’s worked very hard for her career and spends a lot time working. Her kids have noticed this now they are 8 & 10. They recently asked her why she had children because she spends so much time at work. This broke her heart. But the harsh reality is their lifestyle is now firmly geared to two incomes and to scale back would be very difficult and mean big changes for the family. I think this also plays a big part in the whole thing. Its not so much the ‘necessity’ to work but the perceived necessity to keep up appearances.
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I must say that I’m a strong believer in your third option Mia. Working in the childcare field I see the effects of women who choose their careers over their children. The result is not pretty. In fact in most cases its just plain heart-breaking. I applaud these woman who choose to view their own success as not measured by their careers, and who choose to make their children their main priority. Goodness knows when the time comes to it, who knows what I’ll manage to do.
Love to all.
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AnnaL, that is why I dont work. One of us had to make the choice to cut back or leave so our children could be the first priority. When our first was born my husband had just finished his Post Grad qualifications and his career was just beginning. Whereas my industry was notorious for early burnout so at 30 it was the perfect time for me to quit. So naturally I am the one who takes them to the Doctor but thats what I am at home to do.
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Wow… this has really hit a cord with me. I fell pregnant with my daughter while I was 3/4 of the way through my military training. In hind sight I am extremely angry without how I was treated, including pressure put on me to terminate the pregnacy… BY THE DOCTOR. I was told that I would never complete my training, no had done it before and I wouldn’t be the first one… well guess what? I DID complete the training, had a career in the Military, and have moved on to bigger and better things. I had the good fortune to be in a position to stay home with my daughter for the first 12 mths, and then fantastic child care with a family day care mum. I made a decsion very early that my daughter comes first- always. But, damn, some days it is just plain hard.
Even now with a wonderful partner, the vast majority of care/ house chores comes down to me. .. now my daughter is a bit older DH is happier to stay home with her but when she was smaller she just wanted mummy…
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Nope, Anna…it’s not just you. When I went back to work part-time after my first daughter was born, I only spent half of my first two weeks in the office because my poor little girl didn’t cope well with her first winter in child care…but it was me who took time off work every time. Believe you me, it was the cause of quite a few ‘discussions’ between my husband and I. We eventually worked out a more equitable arrangement but I still took on the bulk of the care.
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I really feel for working mums sometimes. I mean I’m a working mum myself, but my son attends school and I only work school hours. So I have it pretty good. As I’ve said I work in Early Childhood. I remember one day this young baby who was about 1 had a high temperature. It was around 38 and I had to call her mother to come and pick her up. When I rang her at work she explained her daughter was teething and often got high temps. She asked if I could just give her some Panadol and see how she went. We are not allowed to administer any medication without a doctors certificate. So I explained that and told her she had to come and get her. When she arrived she broke down crying explaining how hard it is to juggle being a mum and working. She didn’t want to let her workplace down by leaving, but she wanted to be with her daughter while she was so miserable. My heart really broke for her. It happens all the time in Child Care though. If a child so much as coughs were on the phone ringing the parents. It’s ridiculous sometimes. On the other hand though, some parents send their children to care SICK AS A DOG. That really pisses me off. If your child is sick stay home and look after then for goodness sake.
I have a question to throw out there. Is it just me or do any of you find that when your child is sick your expected to stay home from work to take them to the doctor and look after them?? Maybe it’s just my family, but my other half NEVER stays home from work to look after our son. It’s just expected that I miss work!!! Please tell me it’s not just me!!!
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Kelly – I think it’s just called life – you can’t always get what you want – things don’t always go the way you plan – sometimes you’ve got to compromise – sometimes you miss out completely.
I am probably going to be very unpopular when I say this but I have worked on many projects with women who have previously been career focussed, who have had children and returned to work, with their fabulous skills, part time.
And, as a co-worker, I have experienced that often these women do not bring their skills back to the table 100%. In fact, often they hold projects up because they only work 2 – 3 days a week, can’t be contacted, leave early to pick up kids, kids are sick, they job share and don’t hadover properly etc.
And … I think it’s the ‘having it all’ mentality that makes these women refuse to accept that they can’t do both successfully, and step back into lesser positions when they return to work.
I don’t believe that you can be successful in a career and successful as a mother – so choose – do one really well, or do both as well as you possibly can, and be ok with that.
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We can’t have it all and it sucks, actually it worse than sucks.
I raise two children (11 & 15) in the daily home and have a modern family – three under fifteen every second weekend. Add the older step children, their partners and four (another on the way) beautiful children and you have my blended (by choice) family.
I study law – with a degree in science already completed and work fulltime. I want it all and I want more.
I have a therapist (see family construction) and she wants it all as well. I have considerations that my husband/s – both present and past (still a dear friend) don’t have to take into account.
I can crack the glass ceiling, in fact a career opportunity that I had only ever dreamt of is right in front of me to accept and I have hit the wall.
I am exhausted, not uninspired just tired. My greatest wish is that in biting off more than I can chew and chewing like crazy that I don’t leave anyone behind, most importantly I never want to forget me. As a Mum and a woman I find the biggest challenge to be one of being recognised as an individual rather than an entity.
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If the common choice for women is between a workplace that ignores the fact that they are a parent (50 hour weeks, inflexible meeting times/working hours etc) and the children they adore and want to raise, then I agree women are not “choosing” to break through the glass ceiling. But really, where’s the choice? The truth is plenty of women want satisfying careers and a sense of achievement, but at some point they become unwilling to sacrifice their kids to an unbending anti-family business establishment. The losers are the women, the economy, and the workplace because there are all these talented women whose skills are not being utilized.
Kelly
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Loving the comments here – very interesting reading. I have to agree with Daniela though – I realise that most of us are mum’s – but I would love to see some more variety in the posts.
Having it all? well that depends on how you define ALL I guess – does it mean ‘work and family’ – is that what IT ALL is ?
I have raised my 18yo daughter under somewhat adverse condidtions – I had her when I was 22 & had no idea what I was getting myself into – love her to death, wouldn’t change a thing, BUT my choices have been very limited.
I have basically had to roll with the punches since she was born, to a point where now that I actually have choices to make it feels really weird !
Personally, I think if you have a fulfilling & happy personal life and/or a loving partner & you have the CHOICE whether or not to have children and you have the CHOICE to stay home or go to work, then you actually do have it all – you just have to choose the bits you want the most.
HAVING CHOICES IS HAVING IT ALL.
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Imagine if the title of the post was, “Working fathers: having it all, just not at the same time”?!
Why in this day and age are we not debating if working men that decide to have children have to give anything up?
I strongly agree with Daniela’s sentiment’s about her husband and men in general -
“So he should know how to cook and clean. He is an adult after all. I do not think i am fortunate because my husband can perform domestic duties and is happy to do so. That is just a part of life and being an adult.”
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I for one am the biggest fan of women who choose not to have children. I think its the ultimate selfless choice and I think you deserve a pat on the back.
If you know you’re not interested, too obsessed with your career or just want to focus on other things whats wrong with that ? I think its great not to have children if that is how you feel. Far prefer that than women who have children who arent interested in them or too busy with their career to be with them. Like some of the female politicians around. You have to wonder when they actually see their children, let alone get to know them.
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I enjoy talking and reading about a wide variety of issues. People can be mothers and have their own life as well. It seems that once you become a mother, you have not much else to speak about ! Cmon, develop and nurture your own identity and personality aside from the children. We are all multi dimensional people. That includes mothers. Get a life that encompasses a multitude of things apart from the children. You had an identity before the children, it should not cease once you decide to have children. That spells personal disaster.
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Daniela, don’t read the posts about Motherhood if it’s so “boring and predictable”. Seeing as Mia is a mother, and at least half of the readers on here are parents.
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“am incredibly fortunate to have a wonderful husband who knows how to cook and clean, and can support us, so I can do this. ”
You think you are fortunate because your husband can cook and clean ! Gosh what era do we live in.
So he should know how to cook and clean. He is an adult after all. I do not think i am fortunate because my husband can perform domestic duties and is happy to do so. That is just a part of life and being an adult.
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Very interesting blog Mia! Really enjoyed reading it, as well as all the thoughtful and insightful comments from your wonderful readers. I really feel for the people who commented (particularly the women) in terms of having to juggle personal interests (i.e., having “me” time and/or working) and raising children. I don’t have children but I can imagine that it is very hard work as well as being very rewarding at the same time. Throw work and career into the mix and that makes life even be harder.
My only comment is that we as a society should stop throwing all this pressure onto women about being the only ones to raise children and having it all. Shouldn’t it be a family issue with men involved in the debate as well..A woman should have the right (as well as a man) to make sure that she has a healthy psychological and personal well being. This might involve working or having interests outside the home or having support for her while she raises the children. I just wished society stopped being so hard on women and provided more support to them whatever their choice – i.e., paid maternity leave/bonus for mothers or access to training or job opportunites to help working women break the “glass ceiling”. Maybe I am an idealist and a dreamer.
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Mia,
I am also tired of hearing about all these gushing mothers. Boring and predictable ! Why not do something on women who choose to remain childless, women who do not want children, women who do not particularly have a stong maternal urge, an urge to procreate ! Wow, there’s a thought ! Women who are not interested in having children, women who can not make up their mind whether they want kids or not, to whom the choice to have children does not come so naturally. You know we do exist. You talk about women who cant have children and you pity them so much, but you do not discuss women and couples who choose to remain childless, to whom having kids is of no interest. Sometimes you seem a little dated. Please do not assume all your readers want children like yourself.
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isn’t that the point of blogs!!!
yes there truly is a world of difference between the two magazines – my mistake!!!
apology, to me they seem so interchangeable.
J Pawson – So that means an editor without a degree in journalism, cannot call herself a journalist, so thus is not bound by any journalism code of ethics?
Are these the sort of people we want running magazines? Is this why so many are so shallow?
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For me personally it was this one – “Or is it just because the next generation of women are defining their success in the broader context of their lives and other priorities?”
I’m a late 20 something who had worked in “good jobs” my whole career after graduating uni – during my education it was drummed into me that “girls can do anything”.
After 7 years though, I thought I don’t need to take this path, it’s not giving me what I thought it would so I jumped off too and now I’m living life on a whole other scale of happiness.
Clare. x
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I am tired of reading about all the so called professional working women on this blog ! There are some modern women, who do not aspire to have a career and prove themselves at work! Actually there are many ! Lets face it, most women do not have high powered careers, most of them have pretty average, sometimes boring jobs, that do not earn alot of money. That does not mean that they lack intelligence, it just means they can not be bothered with a career. I am one of these people. I am in my early 30′s. I have no desire or ambition for a career, although i graduated from a psychology degree successfully. Most of my friends who wanted careers in their 20′s, (some of whom have MBA’s and Doctorates) and worked pretty darn hard for them, actually have turned out to be stay at home mums in their 30′s with a softening attitude! So please lets not overestimate how many women have a great career (that earn alot of money), or even want one. It is just not a true reality. Sure some women do and that is fantastic but most women do not ! That is the reality. Some people want a well balanced life that includes a variety of things.
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This is interesting, I have decided not to go back to work and raise our son instead, some friends/other mothers just can’t understand it. They think I could have a “better life” as is more material items if I worked. Yes I can’t afford new jeans that I desperately want after 4 years of the same pair, but would rather raise a little boy than be stuck behind my old desk.
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Wow David, you should start your own blogwatch to needle out and make public all manner of insignificant politically incorrect grammatical turns of phrase.
But wait, you might also double check your own facts (people who live in glass houses and all) – I note Mia said that Bronwyn (her ex PA) is editor of Cosmopolitan, not Cleo as you’ve said.
Coming from the media I also know that Cosmopolitan is perhaps the only women’s magazine in Australia that’s doing extremely well and not falling off a circulation cliff.
Who cares whether anyone has a degree or not, surely people should be judged on their results and character rather than the degree(s) they attained at university.
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Mia what do you mean by your inner circle? Can you explain?
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For me, ‘having it all’ is having a job I like but get to forget about when I get home, lots of social time and sleep ins and lots of time with my boy. When i’m on my deathbed I want to be able to feel that i’ve lived…..and not been behind a cold hard desk!
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AnnaL, I can relate to your stories. We live across the road from a boutique childcare centre. Fees are around $100 per day. We have seen the same cars come and go every day for years. So we can assume whole families of children have been raised there. 5 days per week, often the only break is when the centre closes for 2 weeks at Christmas. While my kids are having dinner and getting ready for their bath, some of these poor tiny little children across the road are being bundled into mums car finally at the end of their very long day.
My point ? Now, most of these mothers will claim they have no choice. I dont agree. When most of the cars are European 4WDs and we live on the Lower Nth Shore of Sydney, which is an expensive area, there is a choice. And they have chosen lifestyle and status over their children. I’m not lumping all families into this bracket because I know many genuinely have no choice. But when you see children living like this, when clearly there is a choice, it does make you wonder why they chose to have them. When they really must never spend any decent amount of time at home with them. I’m all for choice, but sometimes in focusing on choice for women we forget that children have rights and needs too and they are often ignored.
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I had my first child at 23 (1/2 year into uni as a mature age student). I’m now 30, with 3 children all up. When my youngest turns 3, I hope to pick up my studies part time and return to the workforce when she is of school age. All up, I will have been out of the PAID workforce for approx. 10 years. Yes, it sounds severe, but I will only be 33-35 and my life with be far from over! In the time I have been at home, I have volunteered for many roles within the community (related to my chosen career path). Some have been small, and some have been quite impressive.
I’m in no rush. The workforce will always be there, but these years with my kids won’t. So…what I’m saying is, YES, you can have it all…just not ALL at the same time.
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A few side issues to this article.
Mia used the term “worked for me”" in relation to her girlfriends. I thought we had moved beyond that sort of expression…surely “” worked with me”", a woman showing respect for other women.
Also, her former PA is now the editor of Cleo!!!
Did she manage to get a Degree in Journalism somewhere in the middle? I hope so, otherwise it may go a long way to explaining the quality of the magazine.Surely it is fair to expect a magazine editor to be an academically qaulified professional?
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Well, I’m a young one – 19 – so I haven’t reached the point where I have to balance a career and family, but from the perspective of a child who grew up with parents who were also pushing forward with careers, it’s times like these where it’s SO helpful to have extended family around.
It’s vital to be able to have a child grow up with a sense of family – in fact it’s a parent’s obligation to their child to provide this – but it is also a parent’s obligation to themselves to create happy lives for themselves; lives that they can be satisfied with. Having extended family that will love your child, and extend your love towards them in your absence, is one of the best way to “have it all,” so to speak.
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Amanda, I think you articulated your point so perfectly. I’m definitely not at the stage of even THINKING about having kids, but I know that if and when I do, it will be at the cost of continuing my corporate career. And that’s OK with me.
I really hate this notion of ‘having it all’. It sets unrealistic expectations and, in my experience, makes women feel like failures when they realise they don’t spend enough time with their kids (I believe so-called ‘quality time’ can never take the place of quantity time) or aren’t able to give enough to their work to keep the corporate bigwigs happy.
For me, it’s all about choice and balance. I reckon we should forget ‘having it all’. It’s like the Photoshopped magazine covers we’ve been talking about – unrealistic, bound to make you feel inadequate, and not achievable in the long-term.
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Like someone else said: this makes my head hurt!! I know I definitely had in mind the “have it all” mentality when I set up my business from home. I thought it would be great to earn some money AND be primary care giver to my kids. And it is…but I am burning the candle at both ends. In order to be “full time mum” and run a full time business, I am rarely in bed before midnight (more often 1, 2am)…this from someone who pre-kids needed 10 hours sleep a night!! I am trying to find a balance (e.g. being more strategic, sub-contracting out jobs when I can, etc) and for the most part my kids aren’t affected by my work at all. So for me, the only way I can “have it all” is to sacrifice sleep and “me time” (what’s that??) – not a good long term life strategy but hopefully I can find better ways to make it work as my kids get older.
Anna: I CANNOT believe parents leave their kids in care when they are on holidays!!!! My husband and I have done the occasional day here and there when we needed to do something like Christmas shopping but we WANT to be with our kids when we’re on holidays. Why on EARTH would you have kids if you don’t want to spend time with them. You’re doing a great job trying not to judge them…but that’s a line crossed for me!!
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Well, I grew up in Russia. What I remember about my childhood is that my mother was the only stay-at-home mom I knew. ALL my friends had both parents in full time work. To be honest, noone even gave much thought to the dilemma of having career AND chilren. That was nothing extraodinary. That probably had to do with 12 months paid maternity leave and free childcare for all. Very simple, really. All the debate could be avoided if we were better supported by the government, just like women are in most European countries. My husband is significanly younger than I am. His salary alone is not enough to pay the mortage AND our living costs. He is still doing a degree part time. There is no way we can afford for me to stay at home with children once we have them. Granted, he can be SAHD and I could go back to work – but that still leaves me not being able to take some time to enjoy parenthood.
What are we expected to do? All the debates just makes me so upset. I am not sorry that we do not live in a crime-ridden suburb in a $180K apartment. I am not sorry that we have a substantial mortgage that we can easily afford on my salary. If our genders were reversed, that would be no problem. I would be a man/provider and he would be a low-earning child-brearer who does not have much to give up in terms of income. I resent being told that since we have certain lifestyle aspirations (for which I have worked very hard), I deserve every hurdle I might face once we have children. If we had the safety net of at least 6 months paid maternity leave (full pay, not pathetic minimum wage) and appropriate childcare choices, women would find life much less stressful. Most of developed countried support mothers in this way…Why shouldn’t we?
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Getting back into the workforce and making the decision to a) stay at home b) give up my career or c) do a crazy juggle of everything was the most confronting part of motherhood for me. I absolutely adore being a mum (I was blindsided by how wonderful it has been) but I also spent most of my life studying, working huge hours and putting my all into building a career that I enjoyed – it was hard to give up.
Through a bit of luck and a combination of a having wonderful support around me and a decent childcare centre – I’ve managed to find a 3 day a gig that I feel is enabling me to keep my skills up through these early years (I have a 4 and 2 yo).
In my field, it’s not uncommon for there to be a full office at 7.30/8pm at night with weekends or all nighters being required every so often – so the big question for me is a) how do I compete & how do I sustain a career in that environment. Even if I do stick at maintaining a part time career through these years – it’s hard to imagine a happy situation in the future. I look at the full time working mums in the office and know that I don’t want to make such a huge sacrifice.
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AnnaL, my heart actually hurt when I read your comment. Bless those little bubs.
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I think in order to have it all something has to give – it’s either the job or the kids that’s going to get shafted in some way.
I work in a very professional field with lots of other professional people and the hours we all do are insane. I look at my boss who has a 4 year old little boy still in the office at 8pm at night and feel sorry for her, I know she’ll be doing that in 10 years time and by that stage her kid will be a resentful teenager.
I am on the verge of burning out myself, at this stage all I love about my job is the big bucks I get paid, but it has come to the stage where it just isn’t enough for me to keep working at this pace.
I think once my eldest starts school next year it is only going to get harder to jugle everything. I’m planning to go back to uni next year and do a post grad in teaching in order to get into a career that is kinder to my kids and family. After working with some unique characters in my current professional career I figure the kids will be a breeze!
I just don’t want to look back and regret not spending more time with my family.
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I have 3 children, always worked 3 days a week from about the 6 month mark. Not because anybody made me, but for my own personal sanity. I LOVE my kids. To quote Kelly Clarkson, my life would suck without them, but I certainly think something has to give if you try to do it all. In my case it’s the housework. I still maintain a social life, spend time doing the homework, cooking, ferrying the kids to netball, speech pathology, all that stuff. I just seem to fall short where the housework is concerned. Do I care, no. I am confident on my death bed I will not regret not sucking the lint from under the bed. End of the day, it has to be personal choice and people need to stop judging. Everyones situation is different.
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Yes, I agree with: “you can have it all, but you can’t have it all at the same time”.
But it’s not just mothers. Where there are two parents, then the phase applies to both parents.
Let’s celebrate all parents, no matter what their gender is.
I share day to day care of my children with my husband. We both parent, we both work. No childcare (not that I’ve got a problem with a few days a week, but we are lucky enough to structure our lives differently).
In our own businesses, we work very strange hours. A lot at night when the kids are asleep.
Parenting is the hardest job in the world, but the rewards are massive.
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I actually posted on this on my own blog a couple of months ago and came up with the same verdict – you can have it all, just not at the same time – I hope you don’t mind me using slabs of second-hand content in my comment. And I apologise in advance for the length of my post…it’s something I have a lot to say on.
I didn’t have my first child til I was 33…by that time I’d reached a point in my career where I was routinely acting in a position which had responsibility for 60 or so people and demanded working hours of 60+ per week. When I became pregnant with ‘Large Child’ I made a conscious decision not to apply for that position on a permanent basis, as I knew it wouldn’t be doable with small children.
I went back to my job part-time when Large Child was nine months’ old (my second daughter, Small Child, is now nearly the same age and my mind boggles at the thought of leaving her in care now…funny how your perspective changes when you’re out of the ‘career woman’ mindset.)
I love my work. I get addicted to the adrenalin of tight deadlines and working fast. The thing I found the hardest about returning to work was coming to terms with the fact that I just couldn’t work how I used to. I couldn’t do 12 hour days and interstate trips if I wanted to be there for my daughter. When I found myself slavishly answering emails and fielding client calls on my blackberry during Mothers’ Group I knew something had to give.
But it wasn’t until I came to work at 8am one morning to find my boss’s four-year-old son in her office, eating a breakfast of Pepsi Max and potato crisps, that I realised that wasn’t what I wanted for myself. I made the conscious decision that day to give as much as I could to work in the hours I was there…but, outside of that, my family got 100% of me.
When I was unexpectedly admitted to hospital for bed rest at 25 weeks pregnant with Small Child (who arrived at 30 wks) I had to give up work cold turkey…and that was tough. But I soon had more than enough to occupy my mind. Nothing like nearly losing your premature baby to put things in perspective.
These days I’m far more content to be “just a mum”. Small Child’s dodgy lungs mean I won’t be going back to work any time soon – child care is just not an option for her until she’s a bit bigger and stronger. But, you know, that’s ok. I figure I’ll still get to where I want to be by the time I’m 40 and then I still have another 20 years in the workforce. My babies will only be babies for a short time.
That doesn’t mean that the little devil of ambition doesn’t occasionally come and tap me on the shoulder – it’s just that I’m now better at ignoring him. Occasionally, I feel pangs of ‘that should be me’ when I hear that employees who used to be my juniors are now on the verge of being promoted to my level or above…but, should they decide to have children, they’ll also experience this tug-o-war between the two parts of themselves – mother and career woman.
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I agree that supportive, involved partners are vital in helping mums achieve any kind of balance. When I first went back to work after having my daughter, my husband and I both went part time – me 3 days and him 4 days per week. He (and I!) feel fortunate that he was able to take on the role of primary carer for our daughter, if only for that one day a week. It has made him more understanding of the juggle between work and family and brought the two of them closer.
I’m now back to working full time in a demanding corporate role and struggle everyday with the guilt – of being away from my daughter during the day, of being not fully present when I’m at home (I seem to always have an eye on blackberry), and, way down the list, of not keeping on top of the damn housework!
It is critical for companies to be flexible and innovative in finding ways to encourage women to keep a foot in the workforce, during the child-rearing years, even if this a part-time / working from home /job sharing / consulting type of foot. I work in HR and try to do what I can in my own organisation and team to encourage & support this.
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I recently read the terrifying statistics in Virginia Haussegger’s book- ‘Wonderwoman: The Myth of Having it all”. I read this as in my first year of a Bachelor of Arts, an the same year i got married ot my darling husband- and i must say, it made me really think.
I have always always wanted children, from the time i was a baby myself, and have always been the neighbourhood babysitter and baby admirer. I realsied that once i graduated, i would be in the most ideal situation i can imagine to have my first child, study post- grad part time, and basically be at home with my baby.
I will focus on my career when our child starts school. So i can have it all- in a way.
I am incredibly fortunate to have a wonderful husband who knows how to cook and clean, and can support us, so I can do this. I am now 7 weeks pregnant and will graduate at the end of the year- This plan will work for us.
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No career path here.I was never interested in pursuing any particular career, I always wanted to have children and realised early that I wouldn’t get to do that how I wanted to if I had a career that I had devoted myself to. In my late 20′s and early 30′s, I tried to have a more open mind about this and actually did try hard to ‘move up’ and focus on my career. I did love my work and I was successful. But it wasn’t fulfilling to me. Since that time, I have organised my aspirations and plans for future employment with plans to have children and spend as much time with them as our finances will allow ie; focusing on roles that I can do part time if necessary and training that means I can work as a contractor.
All organised! Except that for two years I have been trying to have a baby and have had three miscarriages. A little bit ironic really.
You definitely can’t have everything, all you can do is what you know in your heart is what is right for you and your family. And do your best at whatever that is.
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As Gabbie said, partners are VITAL to what one can achieve as a mother and/or in your career.
I’m hoping women of this generation choose partners who understand co-parenting and pull their weight at home so that the mothers of their children can have a work/life balance. Many women in my generation (you know, old, like Mia’s age) didn’t, and we bear almost full responsibility for our kids, whether or not we work.
Women can’t achieve balance in life unless there’s balance in the marriage.
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Hmm career path?
I’m not sure I ever had one. I enrolled into Uni, became to sick to go, deferred for a year and thought I would nanny to pass the year by, and never stopped.
I’m fulfilled. I worry about my future. I can’t do this forever and it is limiting… but I’m happy. I wake everyday and love what I do. I don’t earn big dollars, but happiness is worth more than that to me.
Sure, I could earn big dollars in a career. Perhaps later on in life.
I have the best of both worlds at the moment. I get to support my family and spend every moment with my daughter. I feel blessed. x
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apparently you can have it all… but not at home on the couch typing on your laptop with kids next to you chatting… that way you delete half your comment and post the rest without re reading! opps!
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I then dropped to part time. I was lucky and mostly had understanding bosses who would rearrange things so I didn’t miss my kids first day of school, and other important days. I have also been in a situation where a boss rang to ask if I could come back to work as they were ‘slammed’ when my son was so unwell he was being admitted to hospital.
You can have it all, it just doesn’t come in the form of the super mum/super woman my generation was told we had to be. My hubby is also part of the mix, he works from home and does the school lunch, school runs etc 3 days a week. He works from home as his old boss didn’t see why he should need a flexible job for family reasons… that was meant to be my job!
We both chose a work/family/life balance over high flying success, at the end of the day I want a successful family… because jobs can come and go, but seeing your kids grow up… you just don’t get that back. So in a way GG is right… you can have it all, just not all at once… or you can re think what it is you want, and why you want it.
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I don’t think it’s just high flyers that are making the choice of not going any further, I am by no means a high flyer but I do work in what is considered a “professional” field. I, like many of my work colleagues, have chosen to take a step back from the work / kids juggling act as after many years of killing ourselves we have realised you can’t have it all at the same time. I can’t speak for all working mum’s as I know everyone has different priorities but personally I didn’t want my children to miss out just because I was at work all day – I would be at work from 8 – 5 (not including travel time) and then come home and do everything a stay at home mother would do with her children during the day but I would condense it into the few hours before their bedtime. Weekends were a blur of housework, grocery shopping and trips to the park/ sports / playing with friends. I did this for 16 years and not surprisingly hit a wall. I had my children young and built my career whilst raising them. During the 90′s all the mags screamed “You can have it all” and we thought that not only would it be easy but it was our right in life. I have come to learnt that the work / life balance should be viewed the same as good food – all in moderation.
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One thing that you touched on Mia was the partners role in all of this. In my situation, I’ve been lucky enough to stay home with my 3 year old and 1 year old, but now, as times get tougher, I might not have the choice and I’d resent that. My husband certainly feels the struggle of providing for his family and balancing that with spending time with his kids,(one minute, really?), but he still wants to respect my choice and not feel I should be forced back to work. What to do? I can only imagine what it must feel like for so many women who don’t have the support to make a choice and are burdened not only by their own “mother’s guilt” but by the guilt imposed by other unsympathetic mothers and the public in general. In my other life pre-children, I worked for a company that was 95% women. Competition amongst those women for promotions and praise was blatantly encouraged by management and the longer hours you put in, the higher the praise. When I once mentioned to a senior manager how I felt a younger female employee might burn herself out due to the hours she was putting in, I was told I was simply being “jealous of her success” and instead of fearing for her health and wellbeing, should “take a leaf out of her book”….she was in her early 20′s and I was pregnant with my first child. I was made redundant 7 months into my 9 month unpaid maternity leave. Good riddance to working I say!