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This is not a column about children with wacky names. It’s not about the little boy called Notorious or his sister Awesome. It’s not about Chanel or Bongo or Stalin or Mars even though all those kids exist. There will be no mention of Apple or Sparrow. Not here. Not today.
This particular column is about Sindi. And Kymberleigh. And Lyriq and Xal (pronounced Crystal) and Paege and Beeanchor (say it out loud, you’ll get it eventually) and Jazz-man and Ararhbella and Sumher. It’s also about Jamze, Taiylah, Khrystie, Jesinta, Naithon and Maddissonne and Mersaydeez.
This column is about what happens when the alphabet vomits on a birth certificate. It’s about wacky spelling and the parents who inflict it on their children.
The Patron saint of trickily spelled names may be Kath & Kim’s Epponee Rae but tricky spelling is not a new phenomenon. And we know this because the first generation afflicted by it are coming of age.
When I do book signings, you have to be very careful to get the spelling of someone’s name right, lest you stuff up the copy of your book they’ve just bought (bless them). You must never take anything for granted. “Hello Anna, nice to meet you!” I say. “And how do you spell Anna?” Seriously. Because these days, it could also be Annah, Ana or Anar.
A couple of weeks ago, I read about a girl dating cricketer Michael Clarke. Her name was Kyly. Yes, Kyly. When I remarked upon this, someone I know called Kylie wondered, “What did her parents have against vowels?”

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Having enquired among those who know trickily spelt people and those who named them, my suspicions have been confirmed. It’s not about vowel discrimination (Tylr) or a love of silent letters (Tcharli) or phonetics (Moneeke). The root of tricky spelling is a desire to be different. Special. Unique. Which is fine on a birth certificate but more challenging in the real world where people communicate verbally.
My parents named me Mia for a number of reasons, chief among them that they weren’t a fan of nicknames and thought Mia wouldn’t be shortened. They were right about that but what they didn’t factor in was that many people are stupid. You’d think a name with three letters which was pronounced phonetically wouldn’t pose too many problems but you’d be so wrong.
For years my name has mistakenly been pronounced “My-a” or spelt incorrectly. In fact whenever someone has to write my name down, I automatically launch into: “Mia – M-I-A” before going on to spell my surname.
The other day I asked the name of a salesperson I was speaking to on the phone and she replied “Mia – M-I-A” so it appears it’s not just me.
I’m telling you this because if my simple name is going to cause problems? What hope is there for poor Beeanchor. How many years of her life will she waste explaining “It’s BIANCA, yes I know it’s unusual to spell it like that.” A burdensome number. And will it make her feel special? Or will it just make her parents feel clever?
Here’s a clue: any name that requires you to add “pronounced…” after it is an undue burden to place on another human being.
I asked on Twitter about tricky spellings this week and got some doozies. One person who works in family law said: “The best names I’ve seen through my work are La-a (pronounced: Ladasha), Abcde (Ab-se-dee) and the very popular Nevaeh (Heaven backwards)”. Someone who worked at a Brisbane maternity ward said staff keep a running list of the weirdest names. Current winner: N-ah (Nadasha).
Stop it. I’m calling DOCS.
But WHY? I asked. Often the reasons were quite specific. “My friend named her daughter Olyvia, reason given was that her name is Melyssa” said one person. I also heard from the creatively spelled themselves. Like Rihannon. “It’s meant to be Rhiannon but my dad made a spelling mistake on my birth certificate. I’m now forever correcting people.” And Tiffiny. “I hate it! I never get my emails and all because mum didn’t want me nicknamed Fany”. Then there were the traditional spellings like the Irish name Aoibhe (pronounced Ava) and the Celtic name Niamh (pronounced Neev).
But it was generally agreed by everyone that the most common reason for tricky spelling is a desire for your child to be different. Special. Unusual. Unique.
In researching this column, I came across a forum on a baby names site with the following question from a pregnant woman. “I love the name Chloe but I don’t like the spelling. I love changing spelling around…is there anyone that thinks that Khloei is just too weird of a change? Or Lili? And for a boy or girl the name Aiden going to Aydyn?”
The response was fairly rigorous and unanimously negative. As one person said: “I am not completely opposed to spelling variations, within reason (e.g., Alan/Allen, Catherine/Katherine), but completely odd and invented spellings are not my thing.”
I wanted to reply: “If you really don’t like the spelling of the name, have you considered, I don’t know, CHOOSING ANOTHER NAME?”
Like Apple. Pronounced Apple.
NOTE: This column/post is dedicated to my (real) friends Nikoll and Garry. And while I’m sure that many people will have quite strong views on this subject, please stay respectful. Be nice. Remain cool.






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My name is Jane, as in “Plain Jane?” There were 9 other Jane’s in my year at school, so even though Jane can’t be shortened, all of us still ended up with nic-names at school so when someone called out “Jane?”, 10 girls didn’t all reply “YES!” As such, I’m all for people naming their kids “different” or alternative names, as in Apple, Buddy, Daisy-Boo, Peaches, etc… but when it comes to spelling, I just think it’s best to keep it simple. My son is Oscar. I seriously thought about spelling it Oskar, just to be different, but then thought about how many times he would have to spell it to people, how many times it would annoy him when people spelt it wrongly, and so on. Each to their own, I just think you should consider the child and what impact the name will have on them before trying to be different.
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10 Janes’s – really. I am a Jayne and there was never any other Jane’s when I was a school.
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My name is Catherine and like you at stage in my year at school there were 9 of us! Catherine / Katherine / Kathryn / Cathryn
But somehow we all had shortened or nicknames: Kate, Katie, Cathy, Cath…I used to get called (and still do by my school friends) by my last name but now it is Cat. I was the first Cat I knew…now I know heaps of them!!
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re: La-a etc http://www.snopes.com/racial/language/le-a.asp
This one comes up on the internet all the time and it is unlikely that any child so named actually exists.
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I know who Mia’s source on that one is and sadly, it’s the truth. There is a La-a out there …
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oh… I am going with snopes.com on this one! the last line “and we let these people vote” clearly positions it as being a commentary on ebonics.
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Speaking of, have you heard of the positively cruel ‘Chlamydia’? I’d like to not believe it happens…but my friend who is African American says it has
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I know two Candidas….
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AHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Oprah was Orpah but her Dad also made a mistake on her birth certificate!
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My daughter is Luci, but her full name is Lucinda.
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I am plain old Emma – but believe it or not my name has been spelt M-A (ma) before as phonetically I spose it makes send but geeze seems likje a huge came of overcomplicating matters to me.
My children are Jemima and Eloise. slightly different but both simple and straight forward….until people started putting an h on the end of Jemimah and a u in Elouise. I sort of get but I really did think I’d given them names they wouldn’t have to spell for the rest of their lives. Oh well you win some you loose some!
BTW I was in the same hospital having my first when abcde (ab-see-dee) was born. ALL the midwives were talking about it and wondering if it could possibly, hopefully be rejected by the office of births deaths and marriages so being CRAZY. Poor child, but even worse, you should have met the parents and the other baby a boy called dragon……
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At least there is a precedent for Dragon, the name Dragan exists in what used to be eastern block countries.
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don’t believe you
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Its true- my partner is Macedonian and has a family friend named Dragan
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Do some research then.
Dragan is a name. Just not in your culture.
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I’m a bit surprised at people not knowing traditional cultural names either.
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love this post, laughed out loud reading it in bed this morning. Very very funny.
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I am Felicety. Not Felicity. My mum, bless her, decided she didnt want the city in my name because it is a dirty grotty place (her words) but it took until she was enrolling me in primary school for her to realise she gave me lice. Oops. So I never got those bracelets or note pads or whatever with my name on it and I HATED it. So both of my children are spelled the normal way for their names. Its just easier!
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Ooh, I so feel you pain about the lack of name-bearing items. I always felt left out when I was younger! Mum managed to track down almost every one that does them custom I think!
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Yeah my mum tracked down someone that did little custom bracelets so at least I had that!
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I can only get named things custom made too – Raphaela. I couldn’t even have one of those pencil cases which came with the plastic spaces on the front and the cut out letters to put in.. they only gave you 2 a’s!! It was tragic for me back in kindy lol
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My former housemate is Laurin not Lauren and had similar issues and ALWAYS has to spell it. But I actually think her version is prettier and suits her, which is why her mother chose it. Her sisters are very straightforwardly named.
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My mum did the same to me, took the E off Melanie, Melani. But then I went and did the same to my youngest took the H off Sara because I loved the spelling! Have had some people think its Sar-ra!
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As a Sarah who has known lots of Sarahs and Saras, I have to say, the normal way to pronounce “Sara” IS Sar-ra.
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I always thought Sara rhymes with Lara. Sarah is a different name !
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You do get used to people misspelling your name though, I dont even bother telling people half the time now but I find other people correct them, like my mum or my husband. I figure unless its going to be put on paperwork or some other such important thing then it isnt worth the effort of correcting them.
The funniest is when people start spelling my name and they say “Is it F or Ph?” Um… I was unaware we lived in classical Greece…
Also, I know a Sara who is pronounced Sarah and I think she is used to people getting it wrong too!
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There were NEVER any Mia personalised items.
BUT I AM NOT BITTER ABOUT THAT.
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Join the club,
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Yet now there is Mia stuff everywhere! You should go buy yourself a mug or even a piggy bank just coz you can!
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I know people who have named their kids (girls especially) common spellings of names purely because (like you and me) they couldn’t get cool stuff with their names on it when they were kids.
Come to think of it, THAT would be a good litmus test for prospective parents! If you can’t get something with the kid’s name on it, don’t name them or spell it however you were thinking! LOL
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I still get ‘E-lee-za’ instead of ‘E-lie-za’. Drives me bonkers especially as I picked my own name and legally changed it cause I dislikes my birth name
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I’m also Eliza and I get ‘Aliza’ and ‘Elize’ all the time
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Absolute pet hate is cookie spelling for kids names. It just seems so cruel to saddle someone with something they have to spell for the rest of their lives. I knew a lady who did this and her reasoning was, if I have to do it (for Robynne) so can he (Jourdyn – pronounced Jordan).
I agree, if you want to stand out in a crowd, call your little boy Greg, Brett or Craig – hardly any of those these days…
Although, there are some names that need to die a natural death like Gladys and Ethel (although I know lots of love Gladdies and Glads).
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Oh you would think Candice is nice & simple to spell… But no…
I get ‘Candace’ ‘Candiss’ ‘Candyce’ ‘Candance’ ‘Candece’…
Pronunciation wise- it’s supposed to be Can-diss- but I often get Can-deece, Can-vas, Canned-Ice, and Cand-ace!!
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Snap – that’s my name too (with same spelling) and I have always encountered the same issues! Hate hate hate being called Can-deece………
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Omg yes!!! Totes hate being called Can-deece!!!
My partner called me that for the first few weeks of knowing him… Drove me mental!! Problem was that he’d gone to school with a girl called Candice, but she pronounced it ‘Can-deece’ so it took ages for him to get used to the difference!!
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Name I came across at work: K-leb
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I love the line in Father of the Bride 2 when Steve Martin hears the potential name for his grandchild ‘Cooper Banks McKenzie’ – “Kid sounds like a law firm.” Of course, surnames as first names is a separate discussion.
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Reminds me of Meet the Parents when the parents of Pam realize her middle name is Martha and Greg’s last name is Focker.. they both cringe!
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Mia- confused. Was the same column meant to appear in The West Australian two weeks in a row? Maybe I’m going crazy but I pulled the magazine out this week and had major deja vu. It was the same as last week, right??
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The West is ALWAYS behind with your columns Mia – by the time they appear they have been on this site for weeks. Seems to defeat the purpose of promoting your blog at the end of the column?
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Here’s how it’s meant to work: it can’t appear in the WA before it’s appeared in Fairfax papers on East coast (a contract thing).
So usually the column that I publish here (which follows the Fairfax publishing dates) is a week earlier than it appears in The West Australian.
Had a slight switcheroo this month with one column that Fairfax moved early and I forgot to tell WA and so lord knows what happened that week…..
I know. Confusing. Me too.
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Does it matter that you post it for people to read for free on your blog when Fairfax or whoever have paid you (I assume) to put it in the paper that they want people to buy? I wonder that each week when it goes up online on a Sunday when I read it in the paper earlier that day.
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Leslie Hendrix, the pathologist from Law and Order, is a woman. I have a cousin called Lesley. I thought Leslie was the male spelling. No doubt there are Lesslees out there, somewhere.
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I’m more surprised when I read that parents are trying to have names that “match” when naming their kids. So that Child #1′s name matches or “goes with” Child #2′s name etc.
We named each of our kids without considering if the names matched, including our twins. They’re not a boxed set! It actually makes really interesting reading on some of the baby name forums. People agonise over this stuff way too much IMO.
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I feel so sorry for twins with ‘matching’ names. They will go through life identified as being their sibling’s twin as it is without a matchy matchy name as well. And as a teenager my fav names were Zoe and Zac but I knew I’d never do that to the poor kids.
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I really like the way my grandparents did it for my twin aunt and uncle – Patrick Joseph and Josephine Patricia. So they’re samey, but not obviously.
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My family and I have always laughed at the twins being named rhyming names (seems to be an American thing) so like Randy and Sandy, Candy and Mandy, that kind of thing. When my sister was pregnant with her twins, she signed cards and stuff off with Love from Jo, Daz (her husband) and Randy and Sandy, or Sherry and Terry all the time! LOL
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i went through school with identical twins Emma and Jemma!
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I can understand wanting the names to match actually, but that’s just my opinion. That doesn’t mean that the names have to be all Victorian-era names, or all end in the same letter, or something like that, but I do like them to sound nice when said aloud
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I think if you like the name then it’ll sounds nice when said out loud, no matter what the other names are.
In most cases they are going to grow up and be partnered with someone, whose name you will have no control over. In the end it doesn’t mean a lot.
I know a Justin & Justine who got married, a Jack & Jill , Leslie & Leslie and a few others..my brain is letting me down just at the moment.
So if you call one kid Silvio and the other Fred it shouldn’t matter a bit. As long as you like both names.
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Yeah it probably doesn’t matter … but I just prefer it!
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I’m curious. Could you give an example of names that do or don’t sound nice when said out loud? I really have never understood what it meant. Other than perhaps an obvious “Larry, Barry & Garry”
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I can give examples of names that I think “match” – bearing in mind that it’s not an exact science but just my opinion!
Erin and Renee – tick
William, Oliver and Andrew – tick
Lucette and Mireille – tick
Rose and Isobel – tick
Sophia and Lucinda – tick
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So they are similar groupings of names? You wouldn’t like pairings like Lucette and Cathy or William and Kaleb? (Always supposing you liked the other names of course)
As our kids usually grow up and leave home and are independant from our everyday lives I have no problem calling kids different types of names. I don’t know anyone who is defined by their siblings names even when they are all at school together.
Our kids have a fair bit of diversity. One is a european name, largely unheard of in Aus, one is a very old fashioned and rarely used boys name & the other two are regular “traditional” names that have appeared fairly high up every year on the most popular names list for decades.
Kris2040: OMG some of the American rhyming or same letter twin names are ..well “interesting” shall I say… Latisha & Katisha, Evan and Bevan, Ella & Emma, Makayla & McKenzie, Vanessa & Valerie, Kourtney and Korry, Scarlette & Charlette, Dayne & Daylon..etc
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I’m flattered that you are so interested in what baby names I like! Sometimes I do like names that are similar “types”, but not necessarily. I’m sure your kids all have beautiful names, matching or unmatching!
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hehe – it’s just that you made a point of saying you like to have names that “match” and I could never really understand that concept.
I/we genuinely didn’t take into account any of the other kids names when we named each successive child. We just picked a name we liked.
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My brother and his wife are called Cath and Tim…. just saying….
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how about my friends daughters,
Brianna
Hannah
Montana
Savannah
they say that they couldn’t name daughter 3 or 4 Chloe. Unlucky for the middle girls they were named before the Miley Cyrus craze!!
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eeek! too much matching for me!
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i know friends that have a monatana and and indianna, luckily she broke the trend with the third, it would have been horrible to have a louisiana or something like that.
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Wasn’t there twin in NZ a couple of years ago called Benson and Hedges? Now that is quality parenting.
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Mind kind of match *blushes* in that they are all pretty old.
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On the baby forums there are always posts that ask things like: Do you think Amy Grace and Bertram Thomas go together? That I don’t get. Like the name? Then name your child that.
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My mum, sister and I all have the same first initial. Getting the mail sorted out at our house is an exercise in logistics!
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My husband is Jim and his brother and sister are Judith and John. In his dad’s family there was Jim John Judith Joan and Pat. They really let their hair down with Pat.
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My friends and their three daughters first initials spell out APPLE.
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For a concise list, the ‘Things Bogans like’ blog has a whole entry dedicated to some of these weird and wonderful names!
Enjoy
http://thingsboganslike.wordpress.com/a-bogue-by-any-other-name/
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I’m about to be guilty of unusual spelling, but there’s a special story behind it. During the week after Kat died Michael’s parents stayed with us and the four of us were chatting and listening to music. Our music/TV/movies/computer all run through the one unit and Michael had album covers randomly displaying on the TV screen. One came on that I just couldn’t take my eyes off and my FIL was drawn to it as well. The album was called “Ca Ira – There is Hope”. As soon as I saw it a shiver went through my body and I thought “that’s our girl’s name”. The feeling only got stronger when my FIL asked what the album was and it turned out to be an opera (which Michael loves) written by Roger Waters (of Pink Floyd, who Michael adores). And so our girl will be Caira and the only way we could think of pronouncing it is Keira. We’ve since been told that Caira is the Irish spelling, but to us it means “there is hope”.
Not that they’re spelled unusually, but when I was naming my older two children I wanted names that weren’t common (so they wouldn’t go through school identified by their second initial) but weren’t weird (so they wouldn’t go through life hearing ‘huh?’ every time they said their name). I came up with Rory and Sienna. A week after coming home from hospital with Sienna I saw in a magazine that Jude Law was going out with, as I put it at the time, ‘some actress called Sienna Miller’. I groaned and said ‘Sienna’s going to become a trendy name’. Last year it was in the top 10 girls’ names. And Rory was Rory A all through Kindergarten when there was another Rory in his class and now gets called (much to his disgust) Roary the Racing Car at school. It was a good theory.
I constantly have to spell my name. Jenni is my own fault. I adopted the ‘i’ spelling in year 7, but combined with an unusual last name… the first ‘group’ I joined on facebook was “people who always have to spell their name for other people”.
Weirdly though, Michael often has to spell his name too. People often get the a and the e around the wrong way, but weirdest of all is when he’s asked how to spell his last name. It’s Armstrong. Not exactly an uncommon name and um, spelled the way it’s pronounced.
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I agree up to the point of criticising non-English names. Irish and Scottish Gaelic are still spoken languages in their respective countries, and while non-Gaelic speakers will likely make a mess of their name, it is certainly not due to ignorance on the part of the parents. It is no different than someone from any other non-English community who is given a name in their own language.
We are getting used to reading, for example, Chinese and Arabic names in English. Gaelic names are no more difficult to pronounce or spell if it is explained just once. (This may get a little tiresome for the person with the Gaelic name, but taking your approach of “Mia – M I A” will not cause them too much grief in the long run.)
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I used to work with an Irish bloke, so I just ask him how Gaelic names are pronounced – very handy when reading Marion Keyes books!
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i love the name eoghan, pronounced owen. i think it’s classy to have a traditional name.
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Agreed. I think there is a difference between using non-english/unique names and common names with deliberately odd spelling. When it comes down to it, adding multiple h’s or y’s to names just to make them different dont make them SOUND any more unique.. it just makes people get confused. In saying that, if its a variation that is valid, fair enough, I myself am determined to have a Krystian – spelt the, to what I think is the ‘proper’
, Polish way.
Having european parents my siblings and I all have interesting (in Australia) names. While I’d probably have to spell Raphaela no matter where I was (So many different variations – Raphaella, Rafaela, Raffaela, Raffaella etc etc) the pronounciation is what can hurt – Raphii-ela makes my ears bleed =(. There are MANY european names that I would LOVE to name my children, but after saying them in Australian… I decide it’s probably not a good idea.
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Yes, some of these names are definitely going too far in terms of spelling, but I also see the need for some parents to change a letter in a first name to make their child’s name seem special. But, to change too many letters in a name is just plain stupid…
My eldest son is called Kaleb, and I chose to name him Kaleb instead of Caleb as my brother is named Kristian with a K. When my second son came along I loved the name Miles and I could have changed it to Myles, which is also popular these days, but I liked Miles better.
I think if you want to give your child an unusual name, then pick an unusual name.
I chose to name my 3rd son, Tully!!!
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I’m happy to have my name shortened. I’m not crazy about being called Geoffrey. Geoff will do, thanks.
Mind you, it gets spelled Jeff all the time, but I can live with that.
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I work with a man who changed his name from Geoffrey to Geophrey to “stand out”. He is known as Geoph. God help his children.
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Our 4 year old is called Sally. The midwife at the hospital said, ‘Oh! I’ve worked here for 19 years and this is the first Sally I’ve met!’ So if you really want to go crazy and make an impact, forget your $haniqeetahs and you and go for good old Sally.
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Yes – there are no susan’s either!
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Oh, that’s my real name and funnily enough, my sister is called Kate! Actually, growing up, we knew of a couple of other families with a Sally and a Kate in them.
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My name is as simple as it gets, I think, but i often have people write Meaghan.
I always think why would you go to the most complicated spelling first, start easy, if it was longer I would probably have told you.
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geez, and I thought it was strange that my husband and I are arguing over the importance of the “h” in Sarah!!!!…..not so…..!!
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Hahahaha well, for that you can argue pronounciation!
“Sarah” is usually (but not always) “Sair-rah”
“Sara” is usually (but not always) “Sah-rah”
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I’m a Sarah, and while I don’t mind getting Sara or variant pronunciations, what drives me batty is Sarha or Shara/Sharah. Seriously people, it’s not rocket science.
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i’ve also had Sahara ..
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My daughter is a Sara [Sarr-rah]. There is also a Sienna, Sarah and Sierra at her daycare.
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awesome. Hilarious. And oh so true. I hate my last name because no one knows how to pronounce or spell it. And I am constantly having to correct people or just put up with it.
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I actually got my name written out as “Karilyne” instead of Caroline awhile back.
Baffles me.
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My husband is a Paediatrician and he comes across some real doozies.
The best 2 are:
1. a couple who were pregnant and thought their bub was a boy. So they had the name “Craig” picked out. All fine so far. When the baby arrived, surprise, surprise – it was a girl. No worries. They called her “Craigette”. I kid you not
2. a dyslexic mother who was really whacko called her kid “Abcde” and was really rude to my hubby cos he didn’t know how to pronounce the kids name. Turns out its pronounced “Abceeddee”. Of course, its so obvious…
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Craigette!! Oh my god. That poor little girl!
And Abcde – why is there not a rule about these things???
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That is just mean.
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Working in a neonatal ward, I have seen plenty of shockers! “Charliee and Bayliee” both girls, “Phunkee”, “Lucifah” and the list goes on.
During a presentation at work we were told about a study that had been done by a neonatalogist who discovered the wierder the name and spelling the higher the chance of a hospital admission within the first 5 years!
Personally when we start a family, my partners name no one can pronounce or spell and I love the names Jack, Grace, Rose, Hannah, Charles, so hopefully our children only have to spell their last names out rather than the whole thing!
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uh-oh. Careful with Hannah… I’ve seen a lot of weird spellings for that one. Hana, Hanna, Hannah, Hannar, Hanar…
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Is the higher incidence of admission due to the fact that these spellings are often a boganism? Low socio-economic status etc? Yep I reckon it is.
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That was our understanding, however wasnt said in so many words…
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Reminds me of a child protection worker who said to me a few years ago that the names Jayden, Ryan and Mitchell are predictors of juvenille delinquency!
Of course the socio-economic comment stands here as well.
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Oh no, not Ryan, my youngest is a Ryan.
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Goodness! How long ago are we talking about? Those names are fairly widely used these days and aren’t unusual by my measure. Does this mean an upsurge in delinquency? That’s a bit harsh.
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A couple of years. I have a cousin called Ryan and a friend called Mitchell.
I wouldn’t read anything into it; just like this column and all of the comments, peoples’ opinions on names say more about their social class than anything else.
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Still don’t get it. Those three names don’t scream any social class to me. Especially Ryan & Mitchell..they are very mainstream, and Jayden seems to have been generally popular across the board for the last 5 or 6 years. (Obviously you are only repeating what your friends said so it’s neither here nor there..I’m just surprised is all.)
Actually checking out someone’s facebook friends is a great way to see the popularity of names. Because they are listed by first name order it’s easy to see the trends! Sometimes there can be a dozen or more with the same first name.
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I never understood the ‘i want something that can’t be shortened’ crowd. Oh course i understand wanting the name you chose and love to stick, i mean realistically. You might has well go with the name you want, long or not. This is AUSTRALIA people, the land of the nickname. First name a no go? No worries that’s what a last name is for! including for girls.
And in the unlikely event that neither first or last name will do then a name will naturally crop up over time. I have friends nicknamed after a number for the number of times they once did something amazing and a friend named for something he did with a bucket once. I have a relative nicknamed after an animal. No idea why. At least with a name that can be shortened you may be able to save them from being called ‘cow’ one day. I’m too afraid to name my future kids something that can’t be shortened!
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Not all names can be shortend
I am a Shauna and have never in my how 29 years been called something different. My brother and sister are the same Bryce and Tara. I did the same for all 4 of my kids aswell. Zander, Caleb, Braythe & Siobhan.
My ex husband is a Kirk and gets Kurt a lot so he introduces himself as Kirk as in captain.
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Shauna is easy to shorten! Na? Shaun? Bryce again, easy! Bry, Ice, Rice. Tara- Ra, T, Tar… and Zander = Zan, Braythe = Bray. I’m stuck with Siobhan because I don’t know how to pronouce it… and with Kirk? Definitely just Capt, Shatner, Will… the list goes on. EVERYTHING has potential for shortening.
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Siobhan is pronounced “Sheh-vaughn”, and a mate of mine’s sister is nicknamed “Shevvy”
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Siobhan is usually pronounced like Shavaun, so it would be Von for short!!
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No if it was pronounced shavaun. it would be vaughn for short. It is traditionally pronounced in Ireland Che-Vaughn.
Liek CH as in Chevvy.Like the car not like chase.
We pronounce is Che-vaughn. As I am Irish.
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My name is Siobhán, and my name is actually pronounced Sha-von (‘von’, not ‘vaughn’). There is a common joke in Ireland when you tell someone that your name is Siobhán – they will usually respond with ‘quick, Siobhán (shove on) your knickers – your mother’s coming!’, a joke which wouldn’t exist if the name was pronounced Sha-vaughn or Che-vaugn. It drives me nuts when people pronounce my name ‘Sha-voooorn’, but I’ve spent my life spelling and pronouncing my name for people, so I’m used to it now! I love uncommon (not yooneek) names, but for my own children, will choose names that are still fairly easy to spell and pronounce. My son’s name is Luca, which I thought wouldn’t cause too much difficulty, however a number of cards we received after his birth had his name spelt Luka… sometimes you just can’t win!!
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“yoooneeek”
*giggles*
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Yep, one of my friends is Yvonne, and she is Vonnie.
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I know they can be but we have never had them shortened ever.
Well until now
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LOL!!! especially the comment about Siobhan! LOL
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My sister’s name is Siobhan and we call her Vorny for short
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Great point, Apples! I know sisters who are called Possum & Mouse by everyone, the nicknames stuck as kids (fully grown women with grown up families) and I once had to work with someone who introduced herself as Bundle. I thought I had misheard, she didn’t explain until I asked. She had a proper real name (can’t think what it was) but she was her father’s little “bundle of joy” and they never called her anything else!
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You should hear the nicknames my grandmother and her friends have – I hardly know any of them by their proper names:
Dickie, Foz, Skeet, Fish, Snowy, Barns, Doy, Min…
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that’s like recently I found out my 90 year old Aunty Bonnie is actually called Elsie. We’ve always called her Bonnie. I thought for my 32 years of life that her name was Bonnie.
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So true! I have a friend called Callum who is known to everyone as “Pumper”, long story there but it STUCK! People have no idea who you’re talking about if you call him callum now
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lol My Great-Uncle Toby is actually Barton… My Grandfather called him Toby as a child and only our branch of the family call him that. The rest know him as Bart. I didn’t even know his real name until I was 22
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I don’t have a problem with it but my husband did, he really liked Lachlan and when I told him, he would get Lachie, he changed his mind. I liked both versions but anyway.. we decided on Aiden, can’t shorten that can you? Yes you can, like you said this is Australia and someone will always find a way, so my son is now called Aido. Which I think is so cute!
My Dad is one of those people who shortens names all the time, I guarantee you Shauna that my Dad would shorten your name. Probably just to Shaun or Shau (Shaw), it’s wierd but done purely in an effort to make you feel more comfortable.. haha
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I WANT my kid to be able to have a name that can be shortened…
I use mine very deliberately in professional situations – saying “It’s Joanna, but please call me Jo” is a very quick way to bond with a new client, or “Joanna XXX here…” an equally good signal to someone who usually calls me Jo that in this instance I mean business.
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Yep, I totally agree. It allows you to be formal to a degree that you choose. If I’m being official, I’m Kristie, if not, Kris. I get really pissed off when people use a name other than what I have introduced myself as – usually Kris being lengthened for some reason to Kristine or something.
My stepmother is Canadian and she thinks our nickname culture is wonderful – very friendly and funny.
As for nicknames, try being the Defence Force! We had PLENTY of times when someone would ring up asking for Able Seaman so and so and people would have no idea who they were asking for until they asked around and were told who it actually was by their nickname by someone who knew!
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I am a Joanna, and I get sick of people calling me Joanne. I stick with Jo as most people think that my name is just plain Jo.
I like that you can be formal with the long version and to make things easy just go with Jo.
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My name is Jess, I sound like a 12 year old girl on the phone. I have been called Jeff more times then I would like to admit!!
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Classic post Mia..
I have to admit that I do cringe at some of the names I hear.. I don’t understand why people think the name of a person is going to contribute to the type of person they will become… I think sometimes it puts a little bit of pressure on the child to be as ‘special’ as their name is…
My name gets alot of variations.
Nicole, Nichole, Nikole.
I have the honor of being the godmother of Isahbellah-Rose
ahhh yes thats right, Isabella.. exactly spelt how you pronounce it.. I think it screams a little bogan…
I love the names:
Allegra, Darcy and Olivia for girls
and for boys I love:
Corbin, Christian, Cooper and Jackson.
My mum is a teacher and i have heard
Meekayyla
Triplets: Satin, Silk and Velvet
Lightening Hope
annaabellaa (must love vowels)
Dhakotta
Honey Bee
I laugh at the thought of Nannie Meekayyla and Papa Lightening visiting their grandchildren….what ever happened to Betty and Doris???
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P.S I adore the name Harlow Winter Kate Madden…
I think its delicious!
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me too, so pretty!
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Ha , you do know Betty & Doris didn’t just materialise in the nursing home? They were little Betty & little Doris (and are more likely to be the great grandparents as grandparents these days are Judy & Susie & Trish) ..by the time Nannie Meekayyla and Papa Lightening are visiting their grandkids they’ll be just two of MANY unusual named & spelt grandparents out there..
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My Nanna’s name is Doris, and she LOATHES her name. Always has, always will. She’s 85 now.
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OK *deep breath* I’m going to have to put up my hand and say “guilty”.
My daughter’s name is Claragh. Pronounced clar-a. I stuck the gh on the end because I have Irish heritage and because I thought it looked nicer – kind of balanced. Not to be trendy or exciting (because I’m not, and no amount of alphabet manipulation is going to change that!). Turns out it is a traditional spelling, but I didn’t know that for sure. I just made it up. I concede that she will spend the rest of her life spelling her name.
*stands straight and tall for the firing squad*
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I dont think its the traditional spellings that make people cringe I think its the reason to be TRENDY, COOL, DIFFERENT! there are some beautiful yet unusual tradional celtic names like Keeva tat in my opinon sound better than Khloei
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I agree to a point – traditionally spelt names are far more tolerable (and sometimes preferred!) to simply “Kreeatively Spellt” ones
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Im with you waiting for the firing squad.
I was informed one day by my sister who lived in London at the time that the names I had chosen and named my children were bogan and they would never be employed if they were in London. To which I replied well I guess I wont let them work in London then.
But to be honest I have gotten nothing but complements over the years for all my kids names: Zander Thomas Newman, Caleb Addyson Newman, Braythe Jackson Newman & Siobhan Lavinia Russell. Infact one teacher at my kids school actually named her son after Zander.
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I heard of a (about 6th grade) teacher with a Xander, Willow and Buffy in her class. As the Buffy fans have kids these names will become mainstream (maybe not Buffy so much, but Xander or Zander and Willow definitely)
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Hahahaha that is awesome!!! The Scooby gang together again.
I wonder if there will be a bunch of Harry, Hermione, Ron gangs around in the years to come?
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My dogs are called buffy and spike. Together at last.
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I am always asked if I have named him either after Zander in Buffy or Xander in the movie “XXX”.
I will happily admit I have never ever watched an episode of Buffy and seeing as my son was born 3 months before that movie was released. Most likely not. We had picked the name Alexander but we dont like naming a child one thing and calling them something else so we sat down and looked at what it could be shortened to to we came up with: Alex, Alec & Zander. That was as far as we got because we both loved it. We then spend 10 mins naming the other twin and 6 more months picking out middle names.
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Love that name. It was on ‘the list’. Admittedly it was spelt Clara, but still lovely x
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Bang Bang!
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Noone in my family seems to be immune….
My name is Claire, and I have spent a better part of my life spelling it out, or correcting people’s spelling — I am very, very picky about people spelling my name right. Noone ever gets it first go – I always get either Clare or Clair, so now I just say, “its Claire, with all the letters”. My mum, being irish, used the traditional Irish spelling.
My partner is Krystan. Apparantly it is a unisex sweedish name that his mum fell in love with, and replaced the I with a Y. He has shown up to appts with people expecting a woman to walk in, both of us have had to spell it more times than we can count, he is always called christian…When making bookings or appointments etc, he has gotten so sick of spelling it out or people expecting a woman to walk in, he just says his name is Chris.
As for our children, Im always told “isnt bailey a girls name?” (i had never heard of this before I named him), and a few times Dominic has been confused for a Dominique. Also, I always have to spell Dominic, lest he get Dominick, Domenic or some other weird variation. And I tried so hard to give them ‘normal’ and ‘traditionally spelt’ names….
not to mention our last name….gontscharow, pronounced gontro. I dont think any of us will ever be able to say our names without providing the spelling straight after.
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I thought Bailey was a boy’s name…
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Thats exactly what I thought. I had only ever heard that it was a boys name, and everyone who heard it said “oh, ive never met a Bailey before”…My mum actually suggested it as an easy to spell Irish boys name.
Cut to five years later and everyone knows at least one Bailey, and apparantly its more common for girl.
I always assumed that the spelling was different for girls though – like Bailie (usually they add an ‘ie’ to make it a girls name dont they? like billy to billie?)
I always wanted to give my kids names that were uncommon enough that they wouldnt have a kid in their class with the same name, but ‘plain’ enough that they wouldnt be weird or frowned on.
We have our third on the way, and her name is going to be Eden…already we have people asking if its Edin, Edan or Eden. Sigh. I guess you cant win with any name these days – people are so used to the weird and unusually spelt names, they just assume the simple way is too simple.
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Not wanting to create any confusion, but I know two little boys from my children’s daycare called Eden!
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hahaha oh that doesnt surprise me.
Just my luck
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My daughter is Eden! She loves it (sometimes get Edie which she also likes).
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Eden, thats gorgeous! And I love Edie! =D But I already have a huuuuge list of girls names I like! It’s if its a boy that I’ll be limited lol
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Your spelling is how I would automatically spell Claire, and the same with Dominic and Bailey. I’ve never heard of a girl Bailey, only boys. Weird!
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haha thats what I would have thought too.
I have an uncle who STILL spells my name Clair on every birthday card, and people always ask me “is that claire with an ‘e’ or an ‘i’” and I have to say “actually, with both”
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my name is claire too but in france people just spell it claire. now if i was named clair i would be in trouble
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that is the correct way to spell claire i always say “claire, with all the letters” too, but to be cheeky i like to add “because i deserve every single one” and so too do you i am guessing
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There’s at least two variations, the way I spell my name is the Irish way (County Clare etc). With an i is the French way.
With an i and an e is more common in my experience, so if people spell mine that way I don’t care anymore.
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Hi the other clairebear
I too am very easily irritated at people spelling my name wrong…..the worst is when it’s a work email – err you addressed this to me and STILL couldn’t spell my name right in the body of the email!
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My name is Kirstie – With an IE.
Always correcting people on the spelling.
Still get birthday cards saying ‘Dear Kirsty’ – BAH
Not to mention being called Kristie(y) at times when people can’t be farked checking if the i come before or after the r.
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Well my name isn’t actually a creative way of spelling Lauren, despite people thinking so. As a result I grew up with an introduction: “This is my daughter Lorren, like Sophia Loren, but with two ‘r’s”.
However I’ve been called Lauren most of my life that I am known to respond more to that than my actual name.
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You don’t come from Hamilton by any chance? I knew a Lorren who worked at a bakery, same name!
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Now, you’d think that Jacqui would be pretty easy. It’s a short form of Jacqueline, so the ‘qu’ remains in place. Apparently not. I have had my name spelt Jackie, Jacki, Jacky, Jaki. And once, Cathy.
I very specifically gave my sons names that could not be shortened. I figure, if you are going to give your child a full name, but then only call them by the nickname, why not just have the nickname on their certificate? My friend’s name is Kate. Not Katherine, Kate. Makes sense to me.
Then there’s my friend Trish. Her name is actually Jane Trish ‘Surname’, but her parents call her Trish. Again, why name your child one thing, but call them something else??
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Im the same. If you want to call your child fred then dont name him fredrick. It really is simple.
My sister has an Ed (really Edward) and a Karie (really Catherine)
Her reason is well this way I can call them something cute and simple when they are young but they have a proper grown up name for when they are working.
It was an underhanded dig at me with my children named and called Zander, Caleb, Braythe & Siobhan.
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I hate my name, so I gave my kids the longer version of their names so they could change it themselves if they wanted. Also works better when telling them off.
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Yes! I always knew I was in the shit if my full name was used. But I really think you can use your full name when you want and your nick when you want. Lets face it, most people end up with nicknames anyway.
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i find using their first second and surname has the same effect for telling off!
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Yep. Thats when you know you’re really in trouble, when the full name gets busted out!
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Some of the name variations hurt my head and I have to be honest, I do wonder ‘why?’, but I’ve always been a bit uneasy laughing at the phenomena because it feels a little snobby or judgemental. Surely lots of the people who read this blog must have ‘made up’ the spelling of their kids names given that there are so many readers? I don’t know, I would just feel a bit mean commenting on any in particular.
As for my kids names, they would all be perfectly at home in an aged care facility. I love a grandma/grandpa name.
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You are right, it does feel a bit snobby to turn down your nose at someone’s name … it’s a fine line I guess between being an undesirable name and the name simply being to someone’s personal taste. That said, I am quite happy to comment when I like the name choice!
There is an interesting chapter in Freakonomics, as someone has already pointed out, about how certain names are more common in certain socio-economic groups, and how those children experience poorer outcomes in life – hence my trepidation in commenting on some names, and my agreeance with your comment that it can seem a bit mean and snobby. I don’t want to contribute to a kind of us/them; poor/rich categorisation of names.
This is probably poorly expressed, but I hope it makes some sense.
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Thanks frankie, you’ve given me courage to comment above.
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Me too – I love the grandma / grandpa names!
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The amount of people who, when writing down ‘Fiona’ start off with P-H…. gah! It’s not that hard!
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oh yes! Or be asked “Is that with a y?” Have been asked that many a time!!
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The names in your article Mia sort of remind me of the ones contained in the book ‘Traditional Molvanian Baby Names’.
Bad name combinations (not necessarily bad spelling) of families I know include children named Charlotte and Bronte, another two named Liberty and Columbia, and yet another whose children are Alaska and India.
I’m forever asked (when I admit it) how to spell my middle name (Bede), which people always assume is spelt B-E-A-D. I can only imagine how my second cousin is going to feel in later years- his name is ‘Aeden’ spelt Æden.
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I don’t even know how to do that A – E thing! Poor bugger!
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Well if it were me, I would say it like “encyclopaedia/encyclopædia” or “paediatrician/pædiatrician” so an “ee” sound
but then I speak Danish where the “Æ” sound is almost like the e in egg – quite short and detached so it would be “e’ den”
but then again I might pronounce it as Eden? Confusing!
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My name is Ashleigh (not that strange, I hear you say). I have spent my entire life spelling it for everyone, and let me tell you, it becomes a little tiresome when people assume it is spelt Ashley/Ashlee/Ashlea/Ashlie. It is spelt the traditional girls way, dammit!
For this reason, I vowed very young in life when I have children to never subject them to a an unusual name, or worse, unusual spelling. It is cruel!
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My name is Ann and I have the same problem because it could be spelled Anne. And my surname is Paterson (with one t, like Banjo) so my refrain is “Ann without an e, and one t in Paterson’. So much for simplicity!
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Hello from the other side of the spelling. I don’t receive your spelling too often, but I get Ashley a lot.
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I do agree with most of the points made in the article, but this is definitely not just a spelling issue. It’s about race and class as well. A couple of commenters mentioned Freakonomics- I recommend everyone reads the article at the link about the ‘la-a’ myth.
http://www.babynamewizard.com/node/30322
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The like button isn’t working, but you are absolutely right – this is a classist/racist issue as well. I also posted a snopes.com post on the La-a myth before I read your comment. I’m surprised that one got past the subeditor. It’s a meme that’s older than the internet.
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My brother is a social worker at a hospital, and he remembers helping a woman complete the birth registration details. “Are you sure you want to call your child ANGLE?” he asked. “It’s ANGEL”, she scoffed, unaware that she was spelling it incorrectly! I always think of that kid and how close she came to being named after a geometric measurement rather than after an ethereal being!
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My name is Rose. I often get asked ‘how do you spell that?’. I laugh. Loud! Is there really another way to spell Rose? R-O-S-E! Like the flower der!
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I have a Rose, I adore that name. So far I’ve never been asked how to spell it!!
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I get asked how to spell it on the phone usually! I also get Ruth a lot, which I’m guessing is more due to my mumbling probably than anything else! haha
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I’ve been asked to spell my name before. I too laugh out loud! It’s Jo. J-O.
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I once worked with a with a woman who spelled her name Joe.
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I use to work reception, and if I could not hear properly I would ask for a spelling as people always seem to talk louder and clearer when spelling something as opposed to just talking normally. I would HOPE that this is the only reason you have been asked to spell your name!
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My dads name is Lindsay and my late mums name was Treve (pronounced Treev) – French apparently. People who met them for the first time, as a couple, always thought Mum was Lindsay and Dad was Trev. Understandable I guess!
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yeah treve is a french word….but it’s not a name .it means a pause in the shooting in times of war. or that moment when partners decide to stop fighting because it’s getting too much.it’s actually quite poetic!
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All of a sudden, ‘boring’ names like Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and Adam, Scott, Michael and David are starting to look wildly appealing again.
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My name is one that doesn’t seem to have variations ( that I know of). However 15 years ago I applied over the phone for a Qantas frequent flyer card. Told them my name but didn’t spell it out. When I got my card it said Edwood. Someone very special must have been on the phones that day. Amazingly, my surname which is not an obvious one to spell they got completely right.
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HAHAHAHA! Aaah, “Edwood”! Best laugh I’ve had yet!
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Hilarious
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This is up there with La-RA in the funny stakes.
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Personally, I don’t get the whole “name your kid something special” thing. A name doesn’t make who you are, and a ‘cool’ or ‘unique’ name won’t impart those qualities (such as they are) on your kid, but it’s a whole lot more likely to cause them (and others) frustration in later life.
This is coming from someone who’s first name is Catriona – traditional Scottish Gaelic spelling and pronounciation (“KaTREE-oh-na” as opposed to “KAT-ree-oh-na” Rowntree), as my family is Scottish. You wouldn’t believe the variations in spelling and pronounciation I get; sometimes it’s easier to just introduce myself as Cat.
And my middle name is Billie, in honour of my grandfather William/Billy.
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I have a normal, relatively common name but the issue I’ve had my whole life is people spelling it Alison. I’ve spent my life saying ‘No no, that’s Allison with 2 l’s’.
I really do feel for these children.
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My boyfriend’s mother has the opposite problem, everyone spells her name with 2 l’s!
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I have a friend called Alison, she is for ever saying that she is an Alison not an ALL ison.
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It really does go both ways. When you want people to spell it right, they spell it wrong. It’s like a law.
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Language mutates. Accept it you cultural imperialist.
Stephen/Steven/Stefan/Stephan
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As an adult Christie, I have just learnt to take it as it comes. I get all versions of my name interspersed with more than the occasional Christine amongst those who are somewhat hard of hearing. Most people ask is that with a C or a K and I just respond, “With a C and an -ie”
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Oooh, I’m a Christy with a ch and a y that confuses the hell out of people and they often just go with Kristy.
Its been such an annoyance that I went with simple easy to spell names for my kids. My eldest is Mark. I thought how simple is that?? One of the first times I said it to someone they said, is that Mark with a c or a k.
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I say with a K and I – E but people still spell my name wrong. Painful.
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Nothing wrong with the spelling of these ones – just a funny story – the worst name I ever heard was from a woman who’s grand-daughter’s middle name was Talia. First name Jenna. Say it out loud. Not good!
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I have an ancestress named Vixen Delicia Compton. She married John Savage and became Vixen Savage! But I think your example is worse!
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