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This is not a column about children with wacky names. It’s not about the little boy called Notorious or his sister Awesome. It’s not about Chanel or Bongo or Stalin or Mars even though all those kids exist. There will be no mention of Apple or Sparrow. Not here. Not today.
This particular column is about Sindi. And Kymberleigh. And Lyriq and Xal (pronounced Crystal) and Paege and Beeanchor (say it out loud, you’ll get it eventually) and Jazz-man and Ararhbella and Sumher. It’s also about Jamze, Taiylah, Khrystie, Jesinta, Naithon and Maddissonne and Mersaydeez.
This column is about what happens when the alphabet vomits on a birth certificate. It’s about wacky spelling and the parents who inflict it on their children.
The Patron saint of trickily spelled names may be Kath & Kim’s Epponee Rae but tricky spelling is not a new phenomenon. And we know this because the first generation afflicted by it are coming of age.
When I do book signings, you have to be very careful to get the spelling of someone’s name right, lest you stuff up the copy of your book they’ve just bought (bless them). You must never take anything for granted. “Hello Anna, nice to meet you!” I say. “And how do you spell Anna?” Seriously. Because these days, it could also be Annah, Ana or Anar.
A couple of weeks ago, I read about a girl dating cricketer Michael Clarke. Her name was Kyly. Yes, Kyly. When I remarked upon this, someone I know called Kylie wondered, “What did her parents have against vowels?”

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Having enquired among those who know trickily spelt people and those who named them, my suspicions have been confirmed. It’s not about vowel discrimination (Tylr) or a love of silent letters (Tcharli) or phonetics (Moneeke). The root of tricky spelling is a desire to be different. Special. Unique. Which is fine on a birth certificate but more challenging in the real world where people communicate verbally.
My parents named me Mia for a number of reasons, chief among them that they weren’t a fan of nicknames and thought Mia wouldn’t be shortened. They were right about that but what they didn’t factor in was that many people are stupid. You’d think a name with three letters which was pronounced phonetically wouldn’t pose too many problems but you’d be so wrong.
For years my name has mistakenly been pronounced “My-a” or spelt incorrectly. In fact whenever someone has to write my name down, I automatically launch into: “Mia – M-I-A” before going on to spell my surname.
The other day I asked the name of a salesperson I was speaking to on the phone and she replied “Mia – M-I-A” so it appears it’s not just me.
I’m telling you this because if my simple name is going to cause problems? What hope is there for poor Beeanchor. How many years of her life will she waste explaining “It’s BIANCA, yes I know it’s unusual to spell it like that.” A burdensome number. And will it make her feel special? Or will it just make her parents feel clever?
Here’s a clue: any name that requires you to add “pronounced…” after it is an undue burden to place on another human being.
I asked on Twitter about tricky spellings this week and got some doozies. One person who works in family law said: “The best names I’ve seen through my work are La-a (pronounced: Ladasha), Abcde (Ab-se-dee) and the very popular Nevaeh (Heaven backwards)”. Someone who worked at a Brisbane maternity ward said staff keep a running list of the weirdest names. Current winner: N-ah (Nadasha).
Stop it. I’m calling DOCS.
But WHY? I asked. Often the reasons were quite specific. “My friend named her daughter Olyvia, reason given was that her name is Melyssa” said one person. I also heard from the creatively spelled themselves. Like Rihannon. “It’s meant to be Rhiannon but my dad made a spelling mistake on my birth certificate. I’m now forever correcting people.” And Tiffiny. “I hate it! I never get my emails and all because mum didn’t want me nicknamed Fany”. Then there were the traditional spellings like the Irish name Aoibhe (pronounced Ava) and the Celtic name Niamh (pronounced Neev).
But it was generally agreed by everyone that the most common reason for tricky spelling is a desire for your child to be different. Special. Unusual. Unique.
In researching this column, I came across a forum on a baby names site with the following question from a pregnant woman. “I love the name Chloe but I don’t like the spelling. I love changing spelling around…is there anyone that thinks that Khloei is just too weird of a change? Or Lili? And for a boy or girl the name Aiden going to Aydyn?”
The response was fairly rigorous and unanimously negative. As one person said: “I am not completely opposed to spelling variations, within reason (e.g., Alan/Allen, Catherine/Katherine), but completely odd and invented spellings are not my thing.”
I wanted to reply: “If you really don’t like the spelling of the name, have you considered, I don’t know, CHOOSING ANOTHER NAME?”
Like Apple. Pronounced Apple.
NOTE: This column/post is dedicated to my (real) friends Nikoll and Garry. And while I’m sure that many people will have quite strong views on this subject, please stay respectful. Be nice. Remain cool.






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I think this is my face column ever
If you haven’t already, go read the book ‘freakanomics’ – it has a hilarious and very insightful chapter on how children burdened with names such as these fare in society – and it isn’t pretty!
The studies it looks at are US based (ie. Most of the kids have names like Deshawn and Chastity) but it’s oh so telling …
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I was just about to write about this. It’s by Steven Levitt and that chapter is hilarious. Altogether a really good read.
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Oh I get everything and anything. My job involves me making 20-30 phone calls a day and when people ask for my name I automatically say “Jenna J-E-N-N-A”.
On the phone and in person I regularly get Jenna, Gemma/Jemma, Jenny, Janet, Shannon (?!), Genevieve and so on. I even speak very properly (my brother is deaf so I have always spoken very clearly so he can lip read me) but it doesn’t make a difference!
My surname is pretty easy to pronounce but my partner’s last name is Westphal, so I’m assuming if we get married my whole life is going to be one big “J-E-N-N-A W-E… Yes that’s W not double U… S-T-P-H-A-L yes that’s P for Peter, H for Harry…”
Arg!!! Could be worse but but by god it gives me the shits 20 times a day!
xo
P.S. I am too young to ever have watched it but apparently I was named after a character in Dallas and Ray Martin’s daughter! Embarrassment much?!
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LOL Jenna if you get married you should have a Dallas style wedding!!
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The most famous Jenna I know of is a porn star!
I still think it’s a lovely name
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i admit i spelt my sons name different and it sounds just like it looks, but i am having some regrets having to spell or prononce it all the time. he is only 3 so he doesnt have an issue with it yet but if he finds it too much of a problem then he can change the spelling when he is an adult. though seeing some of the other kids names on the role at preschool i dont think he will be the only one and having to spell his name will be something he gets used to, and wont be unusual cause he will be asking all his new friends how they spell theirs too. its just the norm these days…
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Im going to weight in on this one, because my two children have unusual names.
My daughter is “Isla Alivia” pronounced EYE-LA & her middle name AH-LIVIA. Isla with a silent “s”.
I have always loved the name Isla, and I have only ever seen it spelt two ways, the above and Ila. The second wasn’t an option because alot of people these days when writing a capital “I” do not top and bottom their “I’s”, so I found that it looked a little strange. Thats my personal opinion. Also, I find myself 80% of the time correcting people on their pronounciation of her name. It isn’t common, but nor is it by any means strange.
Now when we named our daughter, we were not concerned about her having to correct people later in life, we just wanted her to have a beautiful name, spelt exactly how it is in the baby name book
As for our son, he is a “Rylan” exactly how it is spelt in the name book. Now, with the book I own, after each name there is a list of alternative spelling, and to be honest some spellings look ridiculous. Like “Ryelan” or “Rielan”.
At the end of the day BDM have guidelines as to what you can name your child, perhaps they should be a little more strict with these guidelines so as to avoid confusion.
A family member of mine was mistakenly sent someone elses mail and even had the police sent to his home because someone had the spelling of his name wrong.
Each to their own, but really a name is something that gives you identity, therefore ALOT of thought should be put into it.
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Exactly how it is in the baby book? That’s why you went with “Alivia”? Interesting decision.
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Urrgh I hate people doing the weird spelling thing. I just feel sorry for the kids. How are they ever going to be able to buy those silly mugs and key chains and bears with your name on it? They’ll have to have them custom made!
It makes me angry that people doing that has made it difficult for the rest of us. My name is Rebecca. One of those really old names that everyone knows because it has been around forever. Yet thanks to people changing the spelling even I now have to spell it from time to time, because you never can be sure!
On the rare occasion I tell people my middle name I need to spell it (Sybil. As it is often spelt with a C)
I did laugh at the girls father spelling her name wrong. I went out with a boy, Micheal, for quite a while, whose mother had done the same thing… Usually just went by Mick to avoid the confusion. His sister is called Taylah. Which I always hated. Why ruin a perfectly good name like Taylor.
My best friends sister is called Lili, which was a name mentioned. I believe her mother did it to be different, but I think its pretty normal.
One of the children that lives next door is called siobhan (pronounced sheevaun) which I think is ridiculous.
I really can’t stand it.
When I finally get kids, my names are nice and simple. Joshua James. Jack Patrick. Lexie Kate. Adelaide (middle name undecided).
Lexie is the only name that I can ever imagine being a problem.
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ALSO just remembered I know a girl named sian. Not a completely uncommon name. However, it is pronounced sigh-anne rather than shaan. Her mother thought it looked pretty but didnt know how it was pronounced so sigh-anne it is.
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I know a Sian. But it’s pronounced ‘see-arn’…
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i also know a sian, but it’s pronounced see-ann
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I knew a Sian and it was pronounced Sharn
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Siobhan and the pronunciation is Gaelic. Not ridiculous at all.
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I know where it is from. That does not mean I think it is any less ridiculous.
No offense is intended of course.
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Seriously, Siobhan? I would always spell it that way first and I don’t even know any….lol
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Siobhan is my middle name and I could not even spell it until I was in Year 8!!!! My mum certainly did not choose it to be different but gave all her children Gaelic names to go with our Irish surname. At my university graduation it was pronounced as see-o-ban, even though they were given the phonetic spelling as well. I am also forever spelling my Christan name Clare which again is the gaelic spelling..
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Year 8 or aged 8? By the time my kids were 3 they could spell out their long Polish surname – no problems.
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geez relax kate, who cares
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When you call something “ridiculous”, it does come across as offensive.
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Siobhan is an Irish name, like Niamh (pronounced Neev). Calling it ridiculous is absurd – are all names in different languages ridiculous because you’re ignorant of their provenance? At least your neighbour pronounces it correctly.
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I wanted to ‘like’ this comment but for some reason my computer won’t let me – so i thought id like it by commenting instead
There’s nothing ridiculous about foreign names – Siobhan, etc – in fact, i find it quite ignorant to call a foreign spelling “ridiculous” – it is not an english name, why should it have an english spelling?
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Haha, I have been laughing at this post all day!!!! Thanks Mia!!! So entertaining!!
I cringe every time I see a terribly spelt name!
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As someone who is a few weeks away from having a baby, this topic is all too raw (yes, I’m being over-dramatic).
My husband and I have decided that there are three categories of names: the trendy overused current popular ones, the ultra traditional and the just plain weird. At risk of offending an individual or parent I won’t give any examples.
The problem is trying to find a name that sits somewhere inbetween these three groups. Also, you can love a name all you want but I think you do have to reflect on how society will respond to the name. I get frustrated when well meaning people say ‘well it’s your choice to make, if you love it that is all that matters’. Well yes, you can love a name, but it’s not going to be YOUR name, you are not going to have to be the one to stand in the playground and defend it and try to respect it when you are 5 years of age, 15 years of age and 50 years of age.
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Best of luck to you and your babe (and the name you choose).
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I think its definitely easy to get over-dramatic with names when it comes to where you’re at in life at the moment! But as far as ‘in the playground’ stuff goes, a kid will get picked on for any tiny thing – having a unique name won’t save them from that. Being named Samala, I never had issues with my first name with kids at school – my last name is much more amusing, but people in the community certainly wouldn’t have tittered behind their backs saying my entire family should change their name, because its simply a given in our society. I’ve always appreciated my name as being mine, rather than one of the 3 Kylies that I went through school with.
I also think there so many absolutely terrible spellers out there (and that this continues to increase with the use of spell check and predictive text) that simple spelling won’t save a child from having to spell it out. I can honestly say that automatic spelling of my name has never concerned me. I’d much rather that than endure bad spelling!
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I think all this fad of mispelt names is very Try-Hard, and a burden on the poor kids. I bet in 5 years’ time, the pendulum will swing back to William, James, Catherine and Anna.
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Funnily enough, I have good friends with all those names. I’m only 20.
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Amen. I spend a lot of time on Yahoo!Answers dealing with parents like this. And it’s not just spelling names wrong within the same gender, there are parents trying names like: Bentleigh (for a girl, saw that one yesterday), Ryann (because somehow the extra n makes it girl-y), etc. Though I have seen some really bad names, like my all-time favorite example: Eighrich Keengztun Natz (it is apparently supposed to be Eric Kingston Nate). I honestly dont understand why parents think choosing a name that requires a pronunciation key is a good idea. I grew up with one of those names (in my parent’s defense, they didnt know that it would be so difficult for everyone seeing as it’s a biblical name and everyone says it right when they read it from the bible — for the record, my name is Elisha pronounced Ee-lie-sha) and it’s horrible. No one ever says it right. I have friends who have known me for 6+ years who still cant get my name right. And no one spells it right cause they wont say it right. I cant imagine how hard it will be for these kids, though. I spend all my time that I’ve decided to waste on sites that discuss baby names and I STILL stand a 95% chance of not guessing what the name SHOULD be.
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I went to school with a girl named Ellisha… At least, I think it had two L’s lol either way, I’m sure she went through the same thing lol.
As for names for the wrong gender, I know a guy named Ashley. I don’t know if its a common thing. He is the only one I know, and I definitely consider it a girls name. But I guess that could start a whole debate about gender. If you would let your boys play with dolls, or would never dream of calling pink a girls colour, then why do names have genders.
And then there is the whole bunch of names that don’t belong to either (Jamie, Jordan etc)
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I have two guy friends named Ashley! They both get called Ash. I thought it was unusual when I first met them but lately I’ve met more and more.
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Now that you have said they get called Ash, I’m surprised its not more common!!!
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The first time I ever came across the name Ashley was from Gone With the Wind so I always associate it with a male. I also worked with a male Ashley back in the eighties.
Now I know two more Ashleigh’s – both teen girls.
I still think that Jamie and Jordan are predominantly male names but you are right – you have to start questioning them now.
Even my daughter’s name which is Bronte – apparently my 16 year old son has a male Bronte in his year level. Not too keen on that! lol
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Bet the male Bronte gets heaps from the other kids!
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My name is Ashlee & if it wasn’t my name I think I would prefer it as a boys name. Spelt Ashley of course…
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Ashley is a character in Gone With The Wind (set in 1860) so it’s probably safe to say it’s not a new thing to name your son Ashley!
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Did you know that Elisha is actually a boys name in the bible. I didnt know that until last night. When I uas telling my MIL about a friends nwe baby and I told her the full name and she said “OH really thats a boys name”
No offence as I always thought it was a girls name. I went to a girls school and knoew about5 spelt that way.
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And now to a new thread. Names with connotations, that people may not be aware of: Jordan is a Middle Eastern country, are you sure you want to name your kid after a whole counry? Have you been there? And Brittany is a region in France, Siena in Italy. Con/ Connor unfortunately means A*hole in French.
Now, drum roll please, the two names that sound very plausible but with THE WORST Connotations (devised by my hubby and i one late night among fits of laughter): Syphilis (does it not sound strong and masculine?) and Chlamydia (so pretty!. ) ENJOY.
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Georgia as well.
You could always look at it as someone has named a country after you/your child.
I like it better that way, and is probably the case.
Should we not call our kids Victoria because it is a state… Even though the state was named after a person?
Should we not call our sons Sydney because it was a city? No, but we shouldn’t because its a horrible name (In my opinion.)
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My Pop was Sidney! Don’t know that I’d call a kid that nowadays, though.
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i loved Sydney but was out-voted by my hubby and as our surname is a colour, it was a bit weird.
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Sirena is also a word for a sanitary pad in Spanish.
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I teach a girl called Preshouss (Precious) and a boy called Rowdey!!
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I know of a girl named cherish, because she is cherished.
Loving the name Rowdey. Sounds like a dogs name to me!
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Hilarious! I’m always worried that we chose the wrong spelling for my daughter’s name and this article has given me even more of a complex!! She is Siena, named after the gorgeous Italian hilltop town my husband and I visited before we were married and living in Europe. We wondered if we should have given her the more common spelling for her future sanity but felt that changing the spelling would change the significance for us. In our defence, it is the traditional Italian spelling of the name. Oh well. Sorry Siena my darling.
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Nah, friends of mine used the spelling ‘Siena’ – the husband is Italian and they had visited the town too. They get frustrated at how often people spell it with a double ‘n’.
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Heard at the local playground last week…’Cuba, get down out of that tree. NOW!’
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That could’ve been Kuba, which is common Polish diminutive for Jakub, Polish version of Jacob.
So I guess with all the migrations and globalisation nowadays we’ll just have to get used to spelling our names out.
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Somewhere out there, there’s a girl called Elle-Emme Aiyo with a brother named Rofl.
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Well I consider myself as lucky, I have a name which isn’t as common as dogs balls but isn’t ever unheard of either, yet only has one way of spelling it – Julia. However, whenever I am on the phone I constantly get called Julie. Annoying, but better than spending a lifetime spelling my name to people.
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Oh my gosh, I get that too!! I use Juliebee as a nickname because someone called me that once and it stuck. But seriously, I said JuliA. Don’t people listen? Especially as I usually answer the phone at work with “Welcome
to _____, you’re speaking with Julia”. It’s the last thing I say. At least have the courtesy to listen. I also think it’s pretty frustrating when at the bottom of my work email, my full name and number is written but more often than not people still reply with “Hello Julie”. Ah…really??
The traditional Italian spelling of Julia is GUILIA which makes sense if you speak the language and my parents thought about this for me but then thought about how people would pronounce it and used Julia instead.
I love my name and I think it’s quite pretty but I hadn’t met many in my 23 years of living until my little sister (13 yr old) started school and there were THREE in her class. I think that’s also why she is the only one in my family who calls me Julz (nickname) because that’s what she calls her Julia friends at school.
My other sister’s name is Constance (she goes by Connie though) and absolutely loathes her name. I haven’t met any others though so I guess she’s lucky that she can safely say her name is unique.
I also love my brothers name, Arthur. I think he struggled with it at school (with all the Lukes, Michaels & Daniels but he is named after our grandfather so I think that makes it special for him.
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I keep coming back to this post to read the comments! TOO FUNNY! Mia’s article was genius to begin with and people have just got so many hilarious stories to share….LOVE IT!
My name is ALWAYS mispronounced and as a youngster it used to really bother me but as I have grown older (well I’m only 30 but anyway!!) I’ve got too many other things to worry about so I don’t care at all anymore! Also having a Mum and sis who look similar to me means i am also constantly called their names too as peeps get us mixed up! I always preferred my sis’ name anyway……
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Love this post!
A few babies/little kids that come to mind that are family & friends of kids I look after are:
Xavia – Little girl, pronounced Xavier.
Rydah & Millah – twin boys.
Jorjie – this one really gets me, what is wrong with Georgie??
Remii – he’s a boy, and yes, there is two i’s. Remy is a beautiful name for a boy, why make it look so awful?
I’ve never had my name misspelled – Coco is pretty self explanatory I think. My mum wanted to name me Chanel, and my dad decided that Coco was cuter…hhmm. My brother is Lochlan, and my sisters are Eva and Lana.
Lochlan forever gets Lachlan, Eva occasionally gets asked if her name is prounced Ever, and Lana constantly gets asked ‘Oh, what’s that short for – Alana?’. So I ended up with the pick of the bunch, except the name Coco becomes not so cute after the age of about 10, I actually go by my middle name Rose because I don’t like having a name that sounds like a pet nickname. When I have kids they will have names they can grow into, not grow out of like my name.
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I have seen the name Jorjie a few times. Maybe they’ve started a trend?
Like your sister Lana, my cousin Beth is always getting asked if her name is short for Elizabeth or Bethany. I was never aware that Beth was not a name on its own until others started to question it.
That’s why I worry about my plans to call my daughter (if I have one) Lexie, as it is originally a nickname for Alexandra, which I do not like at all.
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I’m an Alexandra-I get Lexy, Alex and Al which I don’t mind. I think it’s a lovely name, my parents wanted something that would suit me forever apparently!
Lexie is a very cute name
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Xavier is a French/Spanish name and the female version apparently is Xaviera, but I have never heard it used on anyone. I have a Xavier – boy.
We chose it because my husband passionately wanted to call our son Diego. In Australia I could imagine our accent making it sound like Dago. Since he was certain to come out dark haired and olive skinned, I objected to Diego. We both came up with Xavier independently. So it was agreed.
I like it because to me it sounds strong and masculine, while being unusual, but not made up and tacky.
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Oh I have laughed and laughed and laughed reading this. Its one of my favourite topics.
And what cracks me up, is that so many people don’t know how to spell ‘normal’ names any more! The Red Rocket’s name is Eleanor. I am not aware of any other common spelling for the name. And yet my MIL after nearly three years still can’t spell it! Has nobody ever heard of Eleanor Roosevelt or Eleanor of Aquitaine?
I personally think the letter Y has a lot to answer for…I can think of very few names where it actually belongs in the middle anywhere (Kym, Kylie etc)
And if people’s reasons for wanting to change the spelling of their children’s names is to make them ‘unique’ and ‘interesting’ its hardly surprising that it then becomes a topic of conversation. You can’t have it both ways…..
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I personally think Kim should be spelt with an “i”
But I definitely agree. The letter Y is the root of much evil.
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I think I might name my next child Ghij (Gidge). What do you all think? If it’s a twin, perhaps Klm (Callum – duh!)
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I’ve had plenty of experience with kids names in my chosen careers in child protection and the health system.
For me I can say that there are certain names that I have come to associate with less-than-adequate parenting and out-of-control adolescents (I wont risk abuse by listing them here) but these certainly helped me choose what NOT to name my own three girls.
Another funny story about mis-pronunciation. Years ago we were at a playgroup christmas party where one of the locals dressed up as santa to hand out gifts to the kids. This bloke knew all the kids by name by was stumped to read “Siobhan” on the card. Looking at the expectant crowd he mumbled SI-O-BAN… and was greeted by looks of confusion all round and one sad child sitting waiting for her present.
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well. yes, in my work, we call the Welfare Names.
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My Grandpa’s name was Jabez. It’s a Welsh name I think (his grandfather was also Jabez and their might be a couple more in the family tree). My problem is, I don’t know if it was supposed to be pronounced jay-bezz or jay-bz! I’d love to name a future son for my grandfather, but if I have the problem, how could I expect anyone else to get it right!
I’ve also had problems with my name. I remember at little athletics when I was about six fighting with the teacher over the spelling of my name and have done ever since. Hello Melissa, Melanie, Narelle, Marissa, Lelissa (seriously! Lelissa!)
Oh, and I’m about to marry a Dutch man who’s surname is Muijs. Took me months to figure that one out. It’s pronounced mouse. Can’t wait to be Nerissa Mouse. I can just hear it coming out of the average Australian’s mouth – maaaaaouse. ugh.
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Brilliant article Mia. We all loved it in our house! Pithy as all hell. x
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I’m a teacher….I have heard them all. In one class once, Kyesha, Tiesha, Tymesha, Kye, Elaouise (obviously parents were very fond of vowels!)
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Well the name is Laura. No weird spelling, mum wanted something that (she thought) couldn’t be shortened. Alas I got Laws, Lozza etc. None stuck but the LJ (middle name is Jean). I myself am not a lover of the strange spelling thing. I don’t find it creative. If you want to find something unique look towards another culture or your family tree. But please if you find your inspiration in a soap (days of our lives, Young and the restless etc) don’t tell your daughter thats where you got the name during her vulnerable teen years. I’m still upset about it.
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Funny you should say that….I went to a Tupperware party recently (must do one about every 5 years – no more!) and the host explained her daughter was called Amali, named after an Australian Idol contestant and her other was Kynan, named after a contestant on Temptation Island.
Nice!
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All of a sudden the three Amalis at a kids group I help with make sense. Thanks.
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I had a great laugh at the article. Loved it, Mia. I chose fairly traditional spellings for my sons’ names (Stewart & Scott), but they both start with S. I was asked if it’s a theme. No people, it’s a coincidence. Although if I ever had another boy my favourite name also starts with S, Sean, so another coincidence. My daughters also have the traditional spellings for theirs, Kate & Georgia.
We have neighbours and all the male children have a variation of Edward. One is Ed, Edd, and Eddy. I know it matches the TV show, but it’s true. They’re of Pacific Islander heritage, dunno if that’s an influence or not.
I love the email that does the rounds where the woman from ___ (insert bogan suburb near you) with 10 kids, names all of the boys Nathan. Asked what she does if she wants to call one specifically instead of all of them together. She said she uses their last name. Cracks me up every time. Maybe I have a simple sense of humour.
I’d love to know what’s the most common names in gaol. I’m sure there would be a lot of a few names there. I tried Googling it and got Bubba & Bitch. But I think that was American. When my son was in a Juvenile Justice Centre for under-16′s I asked what the kids’ first names were and there were a heap of Dylan’s and Bo/Beau’s. Mental note to not use one of those names if I ever have another child, just to improve their chances of keeping out of juvie. Unfortunately they also had a Scott (mine!). The JJ Officer said she notices a lot of the same named kids coming through the system, but she wouldn’t tell me what those names were.
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You’d be surprised at how often the same names pop up in schools too, with children who are regularly suspended, have behavioural disorders etc.
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Jayden.
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Yes. And Aiden/Brayden/Caden.
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i’m a teacher and it’s scary how true this is!
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Another teacher, absolutely true…never end a name with ayden, aiden…whatever!
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A friend of mine… Kyrsty. (Was actually meant to be Krysty, but her dad was drunk). Either way, two y’s is too many.
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My name nowadays is spelt Jhorjha, Jorja, Jorjha etc etc.
I’m a teacher, I can no longer just ask a child their name and write it down. I ask it then say “is that with a i, or any, or and e, or a silent j, or spelt backwards?” etc.
It means that I read all the names written at the top of the article correct first time.
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As a teacher, I am also shocked at my inability to spell check that last comment.
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People often spell my name wrong or have to ask me how to spell it but I think that’s because their are so many ways of spelling it, Karlie, Karly, Karlee, Carlie, Carlee, I just happen to be Carly. I also ALWAYS get called Kylie when I first meet people.
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I get really annoyed when people call me Georgia and not Georgie, so I’m really thingy about spelling people’s names right.
I work in retail so when I write down names like yours, or Jenny/Jennie/Jenni, Kathy/Cathy, etc I always ask how to spell it. Usually they look at me like I’m stupid or say “however you want”.
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My names Carly too. Spelt exactly like yours. I get the same problems you do especially the Kylie thing so ive just learnt to answer to it.
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My boys name is Eli, a nice strong biblical (not that we picked it for that) name. But I have discovered that most of the world is illiterate as no matter where we are, if someone reads out his name without knowing him they will call for Ellie (Elly or however you’d like to spell that). I have been gob smacked by doctors, teachers, surgeons and the like who just have no idea. At school assemblies he has on occasion had his entire class yell out to correct the teacher at the front that is calling out for an award or the like. So even if you spell names in the ‘normal’ way it’s no guarantee (as with you Mia) that people will know how to write it or say it.
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Actually, I lived in Israel – home of the Bible – and my partner’s name was Eli – pronounced Ellie. So…maybe it is you who is wrong?!
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yes, so many name pronunciations are so subjective and it’s hard to say who is right and wrong.
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lol – a doctor once told me he knew another doctor who pronounced it like that and I thought he was just trying to cover his mistake, I stand corrected
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i’ve heard it pronounced both ways so maybe you’re both right!
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One of my boys is called Charlie. Not Charles, just Charlie. That’s as outrageous as we got. Alexander John. Nicholas John. William John. Charlie John. Audrey Bridget. (Also known as Alex, Nick, Will, Chad and Audy)
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why do your children all have the same middle name, if you don’t mind me asking? don’t mean to be rude; just curious
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They are all named after my dad. My brother is John too and his son is Jack, and all of the men on my dad’s side were John or Jack. (I thought it would be nice, the family names on my husband’s side are WILFRED and OSMOND!!!) If Audrey was a boy we were going to call her John John, seriously, I’d run out of ideas!
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Oh Mia – every time I see a name spelt weirdly I want to yell at the parents, “If you want a crazy number/order of letters do it to your own name, don’t burden your child!!!” Note to anyone who is thinking of making their children’s lives hell with crazy names, it is not unique or special, it is just plain tacky (or should that be tackee/taqckie/tack-ie)…
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Ive seen the name Aja often but have no idea how its pronounced. Anyone?
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Probably pronounced Aye-ya or Eye-ya – though these days, you never know.
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Asia. Apparently there was a singer 30 odd years ago.
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Thanks both of you! It has bothered me for a while. I’ve been saying ‘Adga..no that doesnt sound right”
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Its pronounced Asia
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I have a friend whose name is Aja and he pronounces it A.J.
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Apparently Asia? I went to school with a girl named Aysia. Also pronounced asia. Caused all kinds of trouble.
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i know a couple who called their daughter azhia (pronounced asia).
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I don’t really care that much if people choose to spell a name different to be ‘unique’ or whatever reason – to each their own and to be honest a lot of the time when i meet someone with an unusual name, once you get to know that person with their own individuality etc those little quirks in the spelling of the name or different pronunciation actually tend to suit.
What I find most frustrating though, is when you do tell someone how to spell or pronounce your name or your child’s name and they continue to pronounce it or spell it their own way anyway!!!!
You wouldn’t think I would have as many issues with my name being a traditional name (Sarah)… but the amount of times when I have received phone calls (mostly through work) and people continue to call me Mary, Sahara, Sally or Laura (Once I even had a guy call me Natalie??!?!? Yeah really sounds similar to Sarah hey?? It’s not like I speak with an accent or anything) despite the fact I have told them my name, more than once is really disrespectful and shows that those people are really lazy listeners. I have a tendency when speaking to new people to ask how they spell their name or double check the pronunciation just because there are so many variations these days. I like to be able to get it right and in my workplace I have seen time and time again, data entry with names spelled incorrectly, official letters and documents sent out with wrong spelling and not only is it disrespectful but extremely unprofessional and just pure laziness and that gets on my nerves more than a parent who chooses an alternative spelling for their childs name.
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I am “Kym with a y” but I have uncles from both sides of the family who continue to get it wrong – And I’m 37 years old now!!
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My poor step Dad is called Garnett which is apparently an old catholic name, given by his very religious mother. He gets Gareth, George, Gerry, anything but Garnett!
I also went to school with a Meeghan who was forever spelling her name out. And I know a Mairie (Mary) who gets all sorts of pronounciations before people get it right!
My two are Thomas and Mia and I still get people asking if it’s Thomas with a “th” and is it “Mia or Myer”? Thought I picked straightforward names there!
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My name is Alexis, but i’ve gone by Lexi my whole life. Lexi suits me much better and I can reserve “Alexis” for formal situations where I’d like to feel fancy.
But honestly, people have about a million ways of messing it up. Lexie, Lexy, Lexey, Lex, Alexi, Leksi… The list goes on. When I was very small in Sunday School, my teacher asked if my name was spelled Eleksys. I don’t know WHAT she was thinking! It doesn’t bother me, I can just say “No, with an ‘i’”, but it bothers my mom to no end. She thought it was simple enough.
On the flip side, she named my brother and sisters “normal” names with different spelling. Brittnie (Commonly Brittany), Cortney (Commonly Courtney), and Camren (Commonly Cameron, but she didn’t want his nickname to be “Ron”). They’re not too bad, but I still like Alexis Jean the best.
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I know a Courtenay.
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I LOVE the name Alexis! And Lexi is just as awesome.
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I have been planning on naming my daughter Lexie… But tossing up between it with or with out the e.
I always thought of it as short for Alexandra, which I hate. But Alexis on the other hand is a gorgeous name.
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I constantly have to spell my name for people. Very frustrating, considering it’s the original most basic form of the name.
My mother had it worse though. My grandmother was semi delirious filling out the birth cert. and dropped the first E in Catherine, calling her Cathrine. it frustrated her so much that when I was born she gave me Catherine as a middle name, spelt with the E. Ironically, anyone who knows mum politely drops the E for me too, thinking they’re being clever and attentive…
My point is, spelling doesn’t even have to be crazy for it to be frustrated. I always very fondly remember Anne-with an E of Green Gables… She understood what it meant to have your name spelled correctly…
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One of my friends is Cathrine – pronounced Cath – reen. She’s always been Cathy though.
I always think of Anne with an E too – and her theory about Catherine with a C or a K when she goes to teach at that school!
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um excuse me!
“most original basic form of the name”
all the different spellings of claire have different country origins so they follow the way that those sounds are typically spelled in that language. mine is spelled the French way and i love it as i am sure you love the way you spell ‘clare’ so please go easy on us other claires and clairs
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I must admit that I felt the same way reading this – I usually say that mine is “one with the lot” or with the French spelling.
My Mum is Madeleine, which is also written the French way, with more e’s than many people expect.
I really like having a classic sort of name, which makes up for any spelling angst. My eldest daughter has a pretty classic name too – Amelia. My other daughter is Michaela, and my son is Rory.
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and my daughter is Juliette- the French way.
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I don’t think it’s really reasonable to say that it’s “frustrating” to have to spell ‘Clare’. There are several accepted spellings. My sister is “Claire” and she would probably argue that hers is a pretty basic rendering of the name too..
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What about that little girl called “Tallulah did the hula at the number 8 bus stop”…..or something like that….didn’t she sue her parents…..I have a vague memory of reading that somewhere….
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Oh….yup….I found it….and what about twins, Benson and Hedges…..shame man that’s cruel
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‘Tallulah Does The Hula From Hawaii’ was the name. This is the article http://www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=10523288
Sex Fruit?
P.S I recently saw on facebook that a girl I vaguely knew from school named her daughter ‘Chole’. I don’t know her well enough to ask if that;s a real name or if she just spelt ‘Chloe’ wrong. Anyone?
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Wondering if it’s a nickname for Nichole? Yet another variation of Nicole, Niccole, Nickole, Nicolle etc etc
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my sister is Chloe and I call her Choll because people always get her name wrong… so to spell it chole it sounds like her name is pronounced choll!!! argh!!!
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My real name rhymes with “farty”.
But it’s not a whacky name, it’s ethnic. It’s real and very meaningful. I hated it as a child – but really, before too long, it just becomes a name, an arrangement of sounds that has meaning because it’s attached to you.
Having said that, some names are just ridiculous. I’ve come across Anzac Day; and twins called Benson and Hedges. It’s not child abuse – but your kid is hardly shaping up to be a CEO with names like these. Oh, and a D’rne. (Deanne).
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Thankyou from the teaching profession- you never know what name a child will be saddled with nor how on earth you’re going to figure out what it says, and hoping to God/Yhwh/Allah/Tolkiien that if you don’t get it right they won’t be embarassed nor thing you rude… because unfortunately mum and dad, it’s not all about you!
When you give a child these names, like Abcde or Xal, you curse the child to a lifetime of spelling out and repeating their name. My parents did- I’ve shortened it right down after getting bored with correcting people.
Variety is the spice of life, and I’ve seen some beautiful names, but some children really draw the short straw in the naming game- and it won’t be long until they’re saying so too.
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seriously, all the people getting up in arms, relax! it’s a blog, not a UN diplomacy project. we’re allowed to think somethings are weird. And if you call your daughter beeanchor…well frankly, you deserve a raised eyebrow or two. It’s not like we’re saying they’re worse people because of their eccentric names (!)
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Agreed. Perhaps its the parents screaming out for attention by choosing names for their kids that are strange
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Why? Its the parents who make up the names and their spellings. It certainly isn’t the baby trying to be an individual!
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A child I know is named Aston, last name Martin. Nothing more needs to be said.
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My son is Aston….but we have no Martin anywhere close. It is a real old English name, meaning “from the East”….
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I usually love you Mia, but not so much this week! Leave my gorgeous Nevaeh alone, she’s my little piece of heaven and I wouldn’t change it for the world. Who wants a normal common name anyway? Like me, (Kellie) or god forbid, Mia, like you?
I guess I’ll have to wait another week before I love you again.
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How do you even pronounce that?
NEV-er?
Nerv-AY-ah?
Nervey?
Neev-AR?
Nev-AHH?
And herein lies the problem.
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only takes one question to find out….
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What now?! Never having heard that particular arrangement of letters pronounced in my life, it’s a genuine question.
It’s not a name from a different culture which I could research the pronunciation of myself. Nor is it a name from another language where there might be terms of reference for the pronunciation. It’s a brand new, completely invented name, so the only way for me to find out how to say it is to ask the inventor of it.
Who’s “rude” now?
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Wiki suggests it is usually either neh-vay-er/ah or ner-vay : )
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Nev (like rev) vay ah
I don’t mind this name. But once I realised it was heaven backwards it lost a lot of its appeal to me
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Ditto
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Herein lies the problem? I wasn’t aware of any problem…Sorry for my delay with this reply, I actually have much more important things to do! People have wayyyy too much time on their hands!
By the way, It’s actually pronouced Nev-a-eh.
My name is boring ol’ Kellie and I still have to spell it out every time I say it.
Seriously guys, isn’t parenting hard enough as it is without everyone having to criticise the name you have chosen for your child?
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When I was younger, across the road from my parents lived three spinster sisters, now long deceased. Their names were Rose, Violet and Ivy. Not too bad until you learn that the surname was “Plant”!
My daughter works at a long day care/pre-school and there are two sisters called Harmony and Melody.
My kids have actually thanked us for not inflicting them with something like the examples seen in this blog. They all have friends whose parents forgot that what seems cute and individual with a new baby, may not seem so good when they are an adult. I mean really could you take seriously someone with a name like Koby-Fox?
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My grandad’s name is Doug Plant. How freaking dumb am I? I had never thought about his name. Too funny.
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What a great time waster this topic is, I better go and do some work! By the way, I am Fiona and got a Christmas card to Pheona once.
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Well my kids are called Jaxson, Breyana and Tiarney I guess that makes me pretentious, retarted and a bogan according to comments here. Tolerance, acceptance and understanding abounds here at Mamamia.
My name is spelled Brianie (not Briony) and my life has been all but ruined because I had to spell it out sometimes, I don’t know how I have managed to cope all these years, its a truly hideous experience to have to spell my name.
Get serious people, my parents were loving, caring, supportive and wonderful and I can think of alot worse things a parent could do to a child than give them an unusually spelled name.
My friend Nicole was physically abused by her parents, but at least they got the spelling of her name right. Right?
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Gosh I could not agree more. Sometimes people mishear my name and call me something similar! Or they get a letter wrong! Heaven forbid someone actually ask how to spell your name because they want to get it right, they’re probably idiots though.
I knew this post would make me uncomfortable because it was always going to end up reeking of classism and snobbery but I couldn’t be bothered commenting because I don’t have the energy to defend myself against cries of ‘political correctness gone mad!!’ and ‘we all judge!! You’re not perfect either you know!’.
For what it’s worth I really don’t like some of the names people have named their children, but they think they’re beautiful, or classic, or have special meaning to them, so I don’t feel the need to draw up a list of names I deem inappropriate and let them know.
Also the la-a, abcde names are urban myths repeated every time a similar post is made anywhere on the internet. To be honest I’m suprised no-one has said anything about their friend’s sister who knows someone who called their child ‘female’ pronounced fe-mah-ley because that’s what they saw on the birth certificate!
Thank you for expressing your discomfort and please know a lot of people agree.
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so much for your disclaimer of staying respectful, huh Mia?
Is it really anyone’s business what people call their kids? Sure, some names are painful and I’m really glad they aren’t mine, but you people naming names you don’t like should be ashamed of yourselves. You have no idea who you are hurting with your cutting comments.
Oh, and please don’t give me a hard time because the post is about the way names are spelled. You’re right, that’s what the post is about. But a lot of the comments aren’t.
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I think people should think about others when they name their kids – the kids they are naming, first and foremost! Having to explain your name and have people be embarrassed for not knowing how to say or spell it is horrible for everyone.
And whether you like it or not, people do judge people on their names.
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true Kris2040, people do judge. But do they have to do it so publicly? For all you and the other people here that have posted about certain names, my name is one of them. Have you no shame?
And again, what business is it of yours or anyone elses what people name their kids? Sure, there are names out there that raise eyebrows and make people cringe, but it’s NOT YOUR BUSINESS. It shouldn’t affect your life one way or another. And if it does, you should really consider getting a hobby.
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It isn’t like we have made it a mission about names. I am one of the people who has had to spell my trendy at the time name my whole life. I have posted here that I hate correcting people and people generally don’t like being corrected either. Why force it on people?
I bet there are names that you don’t like either.
Like the Jacinta Tynan thing – I said on that thread when people were complaining and saying “be a bit more sensitive to others” – if every opinion and opinion piece had to come with a disclaimer about who it may or may not offend, it would be longer than the whole article!
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It’s one thing to have an opinion, but to be honest this post is a bit too along the lines of ‘mean girls’ mentality.
Poking fun at other people’s names isn’t clever or witty – it’s just plain mean.
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All this discussion accomplishes is heightening my curiosity of your name!
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Oh for goodness sake it’s not horrible or embarrassing, my friends name is Karen but but it’s spelled Karin, how is that embarrassing or horrible for her to have to correct people when they assume her name is spelled Karen or they see her name in writing and pronounce it Corinne?
Noone is judging the spelling of the name or her, or her parents or the fact that she has to correct them.
The only judgement is that the names being picked on here are considered by many to be bogan. Lets just call a spade a spade.
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I disagree. I think it is embarrassing to have to correct people or pre-empt them and spell your name all the time. For you and for them. It is a pain in the arse.
I also agree with quite a few posters who said if you don’t like the spelling of a name, pick another name.
To me, it is like people who don’t bother spelling properly – there is a reason there are spelling and punctuation rules.
ETA: See how your kids have enjoyed having to spell and correct their names in 10 years time. I’d suggest you’re in the minority of people who don’t mind having to do so, just by going on people’s comments on here.
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you’re embarrassed to spell your name for people? Why? I don’t understand how spelling ones name could be embarrassing.
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Because it is a total pain in the arse and other people get embarrassed for getting it wrong. I have been in situations where I haven’t answered to something because they have got my name wrong. You may not have a problem with having to do it, but plenty of us do – look through the comments!
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It’s more that you are contradicting someone on something that they often see as unimportant. I ALWAYS have to correct my last name, even if I say specifically that the last three letters are SEN, people still write SON. It’s programmed into their minds and i HATE it! I hate correcting them, as it’s obvious they ignored me, and sometimes I feel like I should let it go (sometimes I do) but when I have specifically said SEN and they write SON I usually can’t. It’s not me otherwise!
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There is no victim more innocent than a child whose parents have no idea. Some parents honestly treat naming their child like they are naming a new goldfish.
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never did I mention that parents have no clue, Lu. I am just saying it’s not our business what someone chooses to call their own child. Nor is it something that should be discussed in a forum such as this because inevitably feelings get hurt. It’s a shame that I’m actually trying to make a point of the fact that Mia asked people to be respectful and there isn’t a lot of that going on here today.
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Names are a label that you mostly have for life and most kids just want to fit in. Respect? A lot of people think giving a child a gimicky name or a name with a made-up spelling is disrespectful to the child. I think its healthy for people to open their mind and consider the opinions of others. Isnt that what we’re doing here? I’m not offended that people think my kids names are boring and dull because their spelling is traditional. Obviously lots of people think unusual spelling is OK. Just as many think its not. No offence intended, its just a discussion.
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Please SSDD if there are any posts that you find offensive use the “Alert Moderator” button and I will deal with it immediately.
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so true!
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I have a friend who has friend who is a doctor says that the 2 weirdest names for kids that have presented at the hospital are:
“abcde”: pronounced ab-suh-dee – get it ? awful.
“a – e”: pronounced ah-dash-ee – get it ? no me neither – criminally bad!
Parents, please try harder not to punish your children for their whole life in this way.
Deed poll – you are about to get a whole heap of new business.
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These are just urban myths being repeated.
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Jazz-man – awesome.
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My daughter goes to school with a Sian, however the i has two dots above it rather than the usual one dot.
Does such a letter even exist?
Oh and it is pronounced “si-un” not “siarn” learnt that the hard way after getting told off by the mother!!
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umlaut_%28diacritic%29
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English Breakfast, German uses the umlaut but (to my knowledge) they don’t use it on the letter ‘i’. Besides, Sian isn’t a German name so it’s a bit puzzling that someone wants to put an umlaut in it.
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that article isn’t only about german : )
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ï
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ï makes an “ee” sound, like in naïve. We don’t really use it in English, but it is in other languages.
I’ve never seen Sian spelled that way, but the us of that letter does alter the pronunciation.
Usually, though, Sian would be pronounced like shaahn. That’s if it didn’t have the ï, though.
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I really dislike that we, as a society, feel it’s ok to criticise someone’s name – we know how individual our names are to us, and how wrapped up in our identity they become – well, same for those people. To me, criticise name is to criticise person and why is that ok? So long as it isn’t generally offensive (by that I mean rude or culturally offensive (such as the child in USA called Adolf Hitler)) I don’t see the issue in name spelling – each to their own. I love diversity and I love hearing why people choose the names they do (including the spelling). And yes – I am one of those. I have 3 children, two have common names that are spelt commonly but one is a common name spelt differently (t.a.i.g.h). His name is mispronounced all the time, but meh – so I correct it. I did think about it, but…..I love the name and I’ve come to love the way it’s spelt – whenever I say his name I see the spelling in my head – strong but gentle – and it is absolutely true to his nature.
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How do you pronounce taigh?
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Is it like Tie? Like Tadgh Kennelley from the Swans?
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Kris – Tadhg Kennelly is actually pronounced Tie-g. Or more like Tige as in tiger. I know this because my son has a friend called Tadhg and his parents are Irish. Tadhg is the Celtic equivalent to Tim apparently.
Taigh I imagine would be Tye? Could be wrong about that though! lol
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Oh, the commentators must have it wrong, cause thats how I’ve always heard it pronounced! Or maybe its my hearing…
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LOL! My hearing of the commentators in the sense that I don’t especially pay much attention to AFL. I’m a Sydney girl!
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Well it is actually a soft g sound at the end so it is probably a combination of both their pronunciation and your hearing!
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Mooner – it’s pronounced Ty or Tai or Tye or Ti – I’ve seen it spelt all these ways. I too have always heard the swans player Tadgh K pronounced Tye. In our case I knew Tadgh was traditional celtic name for Tim, which happens to be the abbreviation of my maternal family name, so it had meaning for me. I thought Tadgh would be too hard, though, so I chose something as similar as possible, but a bit more anglo and that could grow with him.
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