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names2 235x300 When the alphabet vomits on a birth certificate.

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This is not a column about children with wacky names. It’s not about the little boy called Notorious or his sister Awesome. It’s not about Chanel or Bongo or Stalin or Mars even though all those kids exist. There will be no mention of Apple or Sparrow. Not here. Not today.

This particular column is about Sindi. And Kymberleigh. And Lyriq and Xal (pronounced Crystal) and Paege and Beeanchor (say it out loud, you’ll get it eventually) and Jazz-man and Ararhbella and Sumher. It’s also about Jamze, Taiylah, Khrystie, Jesinta, Naithon and Maddissonne and Mersaydeez.

This column is about what happens when the alphabet vomits on a birth certificate. It’s about wacky spelling and the parents who inflict it on their children.

The Patron saint of trickily spelled names may be Kath & Kim’s Epponee Rae but tricky spelling is not a new phenomenon. And we know this because the first generation afflicted by it are coming of age.

When I do book signings, you have to be very careful to get the spelling of someone’s name right, lest you stuff up the copy of your book they’ve just bought (bless them). You must never take anything for granted. “Hello Anna, nice to meet you!” I say. “And how do you spell Anna?” Seriously. Because these days, it could also be Annah, Ana or Anar.

A couple of weeks ago, I read about a girl dating cricketer Michael Clarke. Her name was Kyly. Yes, Kyly. When I remarked upon this, someone I know called Kylie wondered, “What did her parents have against vowels?”

name1 When the alphabet vomits on a birth certificate.

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Having enquired among those who know trickily spelt people and those who named them, my suspicions have been confirmed. It’s not about vowel discrimination (Tylr) or a love of silent letters (Tcharli) or phonetics (Moneeke). The root of tricky spelling is a desire to be different. Special. Unique. Which is fine on a birth certificate but more challenging in the real world where people communicate verbally.

My parents named me Mia for a number of reasons, chief among them that they weren’t a fan of nicknames and thought Mia wouldn’t be shortened. They were right about that but what they didn’t factor in was that many people are stupid. You’d think a name with three letters which was pronounced phonetically wouldn’t pose too many problems but you’d be so wrong.

For years my name has mistakenly been pronounced “My-a” or spelt incorrectly. In fact whenever someone has to write my name down, I automatically launch into: “Mia – M-I-A” before going on to spell my surname.

The other day I asked the name of a salesperson I was speaking to on the phone and she replied “Mia – M-I-A” so it appears it’s not just me.

I’m telling you this because if my simple name is going to cause problems? What hope is there for poor Beeanchor. How many years of her life will she waste explaining “It’s BIANCA, yes I know it’s unusual to spell it like that.” A burdensome number. And will it make her feel special? Or will it just make her parents feel clever?

Here’s a clue: any name that requires you to add “pronounced…” after it is an undue burden to place on another human being.

I asked on Twitter about tricky spellings this week and got some doozies. One person who works in family law said: “The best names I’ve seen through my work are La-a (pronounced: Ladasha), Abcde (Ab-se-dee) and the very popular Nevaeh (Heaven backwards)”. Someone who worked at a Brisbane maternity ward said staff keep a running list of the weirdest names. Current winner: N-ah (Nadasha).

Stop it. I’m calling DOCS.

But WHY? I asked. Often the reasons were quite specific. “My friend named her daughter Olyvia, reason given was that her name is Melyssa” said one person. I also heard from the creatively spelled themselves. Like Rihannon. “It’s meant to be Rhiannon but my dad made a spelling mistake on my birth certificate. I’m now forever correcting people.” And Tiffiny. “I hate it! I never get my emails and all because mum didn’t want me nicknamed Fany”. Then there were the traditional spellings like the Irish name Aoibhe (pronounced Ava) and the Celtic name Niamh (pronounced Neev).

But it was generally agreed by everyone that the most common reason for tricky spelling is a desire for your child to be different. Special. Unusual. Unique.

In researching this column, I came across a forum on a baby names site with the following question from a pregnant woman. “I love the name Chloe but I don’t like the spelling. I love changing spelling around…is there anyone that thinks that Khloei is just too weird of a change? Or Lili? And for a boy or girl the name Aiden going to Aydyn?”

The response was fairly rigorous and unanimously negative. As one person said: “I am not completely opposed to spelling variations, within reason (e.g., Alan/Allen, Catherine/Katherine), but completely odd and invented spellings are not my thing.”

I wanted to reply: “If you really don’t like the spelling of the name, have you considered, I don’t know, CHOOSING ANOTHER NAME?”

Like Apple. Pronounced Apple.

NOTE: This column/post is dedicated to my (real) friends Nikoll and Garry. And while I’m sure that many people will have quite strong views on this subject, please stay respectful. Be nice. Remain cool.

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  1. Kyrila Scully

    My name is Kyrila. It’s pronounced KREE-lah! Yes, I know there are Kyrilas in Eastern Europe who pronounce it KEER-ih-lah, and also a Greek island with the same pronunciation. But my parents didn’t know that—they liked KREE-lah better! (Well,my mom is a hillbilly–that may explain a lot of things–and her name is NORCIE!!!) I was named after my dad, who is CYRIL. So why not call me Cyrilla, or even Cheryl? But, no-OOH-ooh! It’s Kyrila. I’ve been called everything from Crayola to Creosote to Krill Oil to Magilla Gorilla. One popular variation is Cream-ah… CREAM-AH? But apparently that’s how my name sounds over the telephone when I say it. If I had been smart,I would have just gone by Kiki, but that’s too much like a porn name!

    I have a real pet peeve towards people who give their babies weird names or spell it weirdly. As Johnny Cash put it, “Call me BILL or GEORGE!!! ANYTHING but SUE!”

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  2. Rae

    My name is Rae, three little letters and I have spent my life spelling my name to people. I’ve watched them write it incorrectly even when I’m standing there spelling it out to them, Ray, Raye, Rea. There have been times I’ve told people my name is Sally because I simply get sick of people asking, “sorry I didn’t catch that” or “how do you spell that” or saying “did your mum want a boy?” (how many times I’ve heard that line!!). So whilst it can get annoying at times, its just something these kids will have to get used to it. It wont kill them. They always have the choice to change it by depol. Cheers Rae

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    • Anna

      Hi Rae,
      That is my Mum’s name and she has the same problem. People sometimes thought my parents were a gay couple because they couldn’t fathom that Rae can be a female name. Her Grandmother thought she was a boy at first. I love the name though it’s a RAE of sunshine ;)

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    • Ange_M

      I went to school with a Sallee (who’s sister’s name was Kymm) – they both spent their whole lives spelling their simple names to people!

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  3. Jen

    I work at a public primary school and find it amusing how many spelling variations there are for the same names. My favourite: Jaiden, Jadyn, Jaydon, Jaydan, Jaidan, Jaydyn and Jayden.

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    • Kris2040

      Hehe, Catherine Deveney tweeted today that if Collingwood won the Grand Final, in 9 months time there would be a baby boom of babies born with mullets named Jaydin. LOL

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      • Jen

        Hey, we don’t have one of those! At least I don’t think so, gets hard to keep track :)

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        • Anon76

          I work in the school system too and over the years I’ve noticed not only the variations of Jayden, but also Jordan, I mean Jordyn, or is it Jordain or Jordin??
          How about Alyssa? Alysia, Alisia, Aleesa, Alic’sa….and on and on…
          Strangely enough it’s often these poor poppets that seem to have the most trouble learning to write their names because the phonics are all over the place…sigh

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      • Bradley

        Jayden…it’s been replaced by Cruz !

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  4. Caitlin

    There are definitely some ridiculous names out there. But mostly, I don’t have that strong an opinion on it. It doesn’t affect me what other people name their children.

    My relatively simple name, on the other hand, drives me crazy. No, it’s not Kaitlyn, Caitlyn, Kaitlin, Catelynn, Katelynn, Catlin, Caitlan, Kaitlan, Caytlyn, Caitelyn, Caitalin, Caitline or Caytlen. It’s Caitlin. And they’re only some of the variations I get – the full list is much longer. It does irritate me that literally everyone misspells it, because Caitlin is the original and traditional spelling of the name (that said, I have no issue with the numerous Kaitlyns out there).

    So now when someone is writing my name, or even asks what it is, the conversation generally goes…’That’s Caitlin with a C and an l-i-n – no sorry not y-n, I-n. No, not a-n. I-n. Oh, and it’s A-I-T in the middle. No, no E. Oh, never mind, that’ll do.’

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    • Friday

      Well I would be confused too if that was how you tried to explain the spelling of your name, to be quite honest.

      *You* obviously know you are letting them know key letters in your name but I would expect the fact that you’re spelling it out to them that you would be giving the full spelling.

      Surely it would be just as easy to say “That’s C-A-I-T (pause) L-I-N.”

      Just saying….

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      • Cait

        Yeah my name’s Caitlin too and I automatically spell it out in full every time. It’s just easier.

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      • Caitlin

        I thought it was obvious that I was exaggerating it and making a joke. But anyway, to be completely clear about how I spell my name to others; I usually spell it in full first, and people still manage to hear K’s and Y’s. And then when I go to correct them, they generally get confused about what I mean, which is where the complication comes in. It’s frustrating, and I frequently exaggerate and joke about things that frustrate me.

        I didn’t realise anyone would take my very tongue in cheek post so seriously…

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  5. Amy

    My daughters are Kaia (ky-a) and Soleil (so-lay). These are “real” names, not our inventions. But we do have to spell and pronounce them for people regularly. Most people know how to pronounce Kaia, but unless they’ve taken French, will say so-lie-el. We considered spelling it Solei to ease in pronunciation, but decided to use the actual French word. Yes, the letter L is linked to a sound, but not in this instance.
    We just couldn’t handle anymore Emmas or Isabellas. Would that be better?

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    • Anonymous

      My daughter is named for her great grandmother, from India. Yes it is different, and the spelling doesnt help. This article reads as though unless it is able to be read and pronounced phonetically, then the name is ‘wrong’. What about cultural names? What a bias!

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      • Kris2040

        It doesn’t say that at all. Mia and most people here have defended cultural names. It is the made up spellings that are so prevalent that annoys most people.

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        • Frankie

          The thing with that argument though, is that culture is not a stagnant thing, it’s always evolving. And in some cultures, “made up” names are the go.

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          • Kris2040

            Yeah, bogan culture.

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    • Melissa

      I think they are lovely names. Also, hasn’t anyone heard of Soleil Moon Frye (Punky Brewster!)

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    • Aurélie

      I’m sorry but soleil is not a “name”, let alone a “real name”. It’s a common noun. And it’s perfectly ridiculous as a name. Even in French and with a proper pronunciation. Why on earth would anyone want to name their kid that?

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      • Kris2040

        Doesn’t it mean Sun in French?

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      • Frankie

        All three of my kids have common nouns for names, and all three are really old names.
        I think Soleil is a beautiful name.

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      • redballoon

        You’re just rude.

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      • LellaK

        well arent you just a bright ray of soleil today
        i think its nice, and i actually went to primary school with someone with the same name so there you go

        stop being a bitch

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  6. ATeacher

    I think what is important is that the letters that form the name do actually lead people to pronounce the name as you want it to sound. It can mean kids get saddled with some ugly examples as you’ve demonstrated. I teach in SE London and have seen 7 different variants on Shaniece. They have all made sense apart from ‘Chinese’. Frankly the Registrar should have stepped in. As a relatively new name, there is no single accepted spelling.

    What I find hard to deal with are the occasions in class when 2 kids have the same spelling and demand 2 completely different pronunciations. How can you encourage kids to engage with literacy when their parents encourage them from birth to refuse to acknowledge that letters are actually linked to actual sounds?

    The correlation between spelling and pronunciation will impact on your child EVERY time they meet someone for the first time in a formal situation. You don’t want your kids name to become a millstone because they always have to correct anyone who has seen it written down first.

    Do we want to go down Germany’s route though where there is a list of approved names? Noone in Germany was ever called Elvis for example, cos it simply wasn’t allowed!

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    • Louisa

      “How can you encourage kids to engage with literacy when their parents encourage them from birth to refuse to acknowledge that letters are actually linked to actual sounds? ”

      SPOT ON!

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    • tastebud

      I disagree. The English language is littered with contradictions. And we have to remember that two different name pronunciations are sometimes the result of two different nationalities.

      Millstone? Is a child is a burden if their name is culturally different to that of the dominating culture? Should we stick only to Anglo-Saxon names? Yes, the majority of names discussed here reflect a certain sub-culture. But some of these attitudes have the frightening potential to foster intolerance.

      I’d rather encourage acceptance of a few grey areas (in language and in life) than have my children sweating it when they come across something which doesn’t fit their own narrow experience.

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      • Kris2040

        You spell everything in this post perfectly! I think its funny you defend wacky spelling of names. I agree about intolerance about cultural names and spellings – I grew up around it and can tell which are traditional names and which are bogan made up spellings though. The surname is usually a pretty good hint!

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        • tastebud

          I’m not defending the whacky spelling of names Kris. I don’t feel passionate about creative spellings. That IS funny!

          I’m defending the Niamh’s, Dragan’s, Rebekah’s and Maya’s etc (just to mention a few examples we’ve seen in these comments) being lumped in the “bogan” category. Goodness me, these names actually have their own heritage! How embarrassing!

          And all this talk of someone with a different name is somehow sooooo inconvenient for others or a burden. How can we expect to foster tolerance for others when some of us don’t seem to be able to “cope” with different spellings and pronunciations? It’s so sad and… frankly, rather cringeworthy.

          Sure, it’s difficult to know all traditional spellings and pronunciations. In fact, near impossible. BUT what I wish is that more people would be humble enough to take a position of curiosity in the first instance. That’s all.

          Sam de Brito touches on it here;

          http://blogs.brisbanetimes.com.au/executive-style/allmenareliars/2010/09/10/getarealname.html

          (I don’t understand the bit about the spelling, except that I do find the written word a challenge!)

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          • Kris2040

            Dude, I agree with you about the traditional names! I hate the made up bogan names, but I have no drama with traditional names at all.

            P.S. Had to spell my name putting stuff on layby today – Kristie C no K then the lady went as far as R and that was it. Had to spell the rest. Stupid “UNEEK” spellings!

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  7. Baylee'sMum

    The funny thing about all this (IMO) is that no matter what your name is these days, you still have to spell it for people. It’s something everyone does, so why should anyone have a problem with it? It’s just part of life.

    I’ve always had to spell my name (Larissa Gray) and I’ve never had any what-were-my-parents-thinking? dramas… Truthfully, it was the opposite, when I was at primary school (1990s) I thanked God my name was Larissa, instead of being yet another Melissa! (Not that I don’t love the name Melissa, just using it as an example of common names of the time!)

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  8. Sonia.

    totally agree with this. the nicest names seem to be hacked to bits by people wanting to be different. If you want to be different.. find a more unusual name.
    in saying that. even the plainest names that dont get hacked still get misspelled.

    Sonia…

    Sure.. is that with an I.. an J or a Y?

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  9. Zoe

    I am with you Mia. My name only has three letters but holy moly do some people just not understand it.

    I have had ‘Zowie’ written down and even asked how to spell it!

    Or people who call me Zo or people who don’t believe I have the two dots above my ‘e’

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  10. Melissa

    When I was choosing a name for my daughter (born Nov 09) I went with Allegra Jayne, Allegra being a beautiful Italian name, but spelt the “traditional” way and with Jayne, I added the ‘y’ because next to her first name Jane was too plain….I’d like to think that later on in life she’ll love her name, and she sure lives up to it’s meaning!!!

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  11. kateo

    btw- just another add on… I had 3 Ben’s and 4 Matthews in my grade at school… so a different name can sometimes be welcome!!

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    • lucy

      but its not a differnt name at all, It may be spelt different but still pronounced the same

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      • kateo

        i know… i was saying as a link to this topic (as some people have referred to unusual names) that a ‘different’ name isn’t always bad :-)

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  12. Catharine

    Hi Mia

    I read this article and found it most interesting. I was disappointed when you came to Catherine/Katherine. Catherine and Katharine are the mostly widely acknowledged spellings of the name. Mine however is a combination of the two. With Katherine becoming more and more common so I would of like to have seen Catharine in there. My parents Jane and Stephen both “normal” names combined the spelling of Katharine Hepburn and Queen Catherine the Great of Russia to come out with Catharine. Which I am quite proud of being named after 2 of history’s greatest women and leaders in their field. So I find that something to be proud of and not resent my parents for.
    Otherwise a very well written and interesting article.
    Regards
    Catharine

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  13. B2

    Are comments closed for this post??

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  14. Etta

    Loved reading Mia’s column and all the posts.

    As a teacher, when having a new class, I knew if I said “Jessica” or “Michael” several people would answer.

    Most teachers have cryptic comments in their rolls regarding pronunciation and the gender of a student.

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  15. B

    I am living with the unfortunate consequences of my parents trying to be really creative. My name is Bridd-jet and my little sister’s name is Brie-Ana. I do think it’s kind of cool but I usually just let people spell it the ‘normal’ way. On another note, my little brother’s name is Jamie.

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  16. Curious....

    It seems some parents of today’s minds have perhaps been affected by the substances that may have affected there parents in the 70′s… The baby names of today are just too insane to comprehend… change is good don’t get me wrong but to inflict some of these names on the child your suppose to love and care for seems somewhat cruel…. Our Ancestors must me turning in there graves, its not only that its cruel to inflict, but I’m concerned about the fact of how are these kids suppose to learn how to spell and speak correctly when you have people just adding in every other letter of the alphabet because it looks cool… OH GOSH what else are the Children and Youth of today in for!!!!!

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  17. Pinkgirl

    Imagine the dilemmas that teachers must face day in and day out! They probably start to doubt the pronounciation of normal names like sarah (is it sah-rah?) Epponee look at moi!

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    • Ash

      Oh you are so right! I’m a teacher and honestly, at the beginning of each year I just have to hope for the best. Some of the kids get so offended if you don’t get it right the first time – particularly one boy I once taught, named ‘Ng’. He refused to tell me how to pronounce it because “it’s a very common name in Vietnam Miss!”. Sadly, I’ve never been to Vietnam so, I called Ng ‘Mate’ all year long. Worked for me….

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      • Donna S

        It may be one of the simplest names on the planet but I can NEVER remember how to pronounce it. It’s probably the name I fear calling out the most.

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  18. miss s

    my nieces play basketball with two sisters – n-a and t-a like the ones in mia’s column = nadasha and tadasha.

    i think it’s like a form of bloody child abuse! those poor kids! unreal.

    is it germany? or denmark? that has a ‘name book’ of 40,000 names and you can ONLY choose ones out of there. sounds like a plan to me…

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    • Dee, pronounced 'D'

      Yes, and only a certain number of spellings should be accepted too! and no -’s!

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      • Ash

        I’m confused – I know of quite a few official forms that don’t accept anything other than lowercase letters – what are T-a and N-a going to do then?! ;)

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  19. Simone

    How funny. Love this post. My name is Simone but I have to tell people it’s the Simone that rhymes with ‘phone’, not the Simone that rhymes with ‘come on’. And both times I’ve been to Italy it causes trouble because Simone is a man’s name over there. So to avoid confusion I call myself Simona – oh so european of me, I know!
    I have surname that sounds like a typical name but is spelled differently and I’m constantly spelling it out for people. I’ve even joined a facebook group titled ‘people that have to spell their surname’.

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  20. Anonymous

    The thing is that sometimes it’s not necessarily about the parent just adding in letters or changing things about just for the fun of it. I have had people questioning my son’s name, Alexzander, when the spelling is actually the original medieval spelling & we got lazy & started leaving out the Z at some point in time. There was no desire for him to be unusual or different, I just wanted to use the original spelling of the name.

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  21. Blerk

    Please …. if you feel the need to vomit on the child’s birth cert, make sure you also love the child enough to give it a nice plain surname like Brown or Miller or Wong. Having two names that need to be spelled out means that they will NEVER get any of their emails. I am too old for Kristen (yes-spelled-with-a-K-but-no-h-and-ten(t-E-n))to have been considered normal until the last 5 years.

    The good thing is there is always someone worse off – I met a very mature Djennifer last week – and you can tell when someone else with a tricky name thinks it’s you that’s worse off because of the relief in their eyes when you’re introduced.

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  22. Missamoo

    The thing that i find interesting about spelling names in different ways is that when you speak to that person it doesn’t matter how it is spelt, does it?? I would personally prefer to have an unususal name as than a funny one to spell having said that i spend most of my time spellin gmy surname and it’s a little weird because there are 6 letters 2 syllables and yet everyone wants to add an extra a in here and there

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  23. kaz

    I must say it’s my pet hate, when people get very indignant when you ask them to spell their name, because it’s spelt in an unusual way.
    A friend of mine has a son named Jak, which is fine, but she is forever cursing the fact that no-one ever spells his name correctly, and she can’t buy anything with his name on it. Well, maybe if you had spelt it in the ‘normal’ way, it wouldn’t be a problem.
    I’m a Hairdresser and I recently had a 3 1/2 year old in for a haircut, when I asked him his name he said “Marlon, as in Brando, not in fish!” It’s a bit sad when a 3 year old already has a set explanation for his name :(

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    • Dee, pronounced 'D'

      I think your friend spells her sons name incorrectly not everyone else!

      I don’t see why people mess with the spelling of names. What if we started messing with regular words (more than is done already, with spelling in text messages etc, and in pop culture), how would we know what anything meant, or how would we communicate, in writing!

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      • Kris2040

        I’ve said that too – we have spelling and punctuation rules so that we can communicate effectively. Why can’t the same rules apply to names?

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  24. Jess

    so many people have mentioned La-a (i.e. Ladasha) and similar, but I’m pretty sure thats an urban myth. Everyone is like, my doctors cousin, neighbours babysitter etc etc knows of someone called that… whatever, no one has actually met one .. myth my friends ..

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  25. Guest

    It’s not the foreign names or varied spellings of Catherine/Katherine, Jane/Jayne, Kim/Kym that annoy me, it’s the parents who ignore basic rules of the English language. Seriously, N-Ah (Nadasha?) Those parents were clearly drunk when they named their kid haha.

    As far as my ‘rules’ go, names such as Lily with Lilly, Lilli, or Madison, with variations like Maddison, or Kimberley with variations like Kimberly/Kymberly are acceptable…Maddissonne and Kymberleigh however…..don’t even get me started! Those types of spellings drive me insane! Not only does it look ridiculous, they’re so long that it takes ten years to tell people how to spell it and….oh gosh. I can’t even describe my frustration at these parents! Lol

    Of course some people will always be bad spellers and as a result will have trouble spelling even the most basic of names (e.g. Mia)…let’s not make it more complicated than it needs to be

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  26. Finiam

    I, suddenly, feel overwhelmingly…normal :-)

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  27. Serena

    I cheered when I read this column on the weekend.

    WHY do people create bizarre spellings that basically proclaim to the world that you and/or your parents are illiterate, or that break basic rules of grammar?

    It’s not unique or special – it is, instead, a word that Mia was too diplomatic to use, but that she hinted at with her reference to Kath & Kim: it is utterly BOGAN.

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  28. Gilgamesh

    Do not be so quick to write off this cultural phenonomen as quirky or irreverent. Inherently language is a construct which places value on objects of shared experience. So whats in a name? Nothing and Everything!

    In the not so distant past people grew up as individuals because they knew themselves, Temet nosce. “But it was generally agreed by everyone that the most common reason for is a desire for your child to be different. Special. Unusual. Unique.” Today the individual who bemoans our loss of characters, who puts into practise the old adage “to thine own-self you must know”. That person is ostracized because they do not adhere to societies norms.

    Perhaps the “tricky spelling” is is a representation of an unconscious defence mechanism. A collective reaction to the obsession of Orderley Society, where everyone has their place and knows it! As Wikpedia states “Collective Unconscious is a term of analytical psychology, coined by Carl Jung. It is proposed to be a part of the unconscious mind, expressed in humanity and all life forms with nervous systems, and describes how the structure of the psyche autonomously organizes experience.”

    In an age of uniformity and Group Think we have ring-fenced individualism with political correctness, slogans, mantras and dogma. “The root of tricky spelling is a desire to be different. Special. Unique.” The parents of these children wish for them to be unique, to stand out from the masses. As such they are unconsciously argueing for their childrens individuality and the rights of man.

    “Such is the irresistible nature of truth that all it asks, and all it wants, is the liberty of appearing.”
    Thomas Paine

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    • kate Hunter

      I reckon the creative spelling trend says more about our superficiality than our individuality. People seem to think a unique name actually makes the person different, when all it does is get them noticed, for a second. If I started spelling my name Kait or Kayt or Caat would I suddenly be more creative? More interesting? There are about a bazillion Kate Hunters, but only one of me. I don’t need a tricky spelling to make me unique.

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      • Lu

        If you started spelling Kate a weird way I would just think that you were a dill

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  29. Jil

    I was just talking about this with my brother yesterday. His partner is pregnant with their first baby (a girl) and is due in early January. I said ‘just don’t call her something with wierd spelling!’

    Seriously, I know of a couple who named their daughter Monet (after the painter). Don’t like it much myself… I like all those old fashioned names from my Grandmother’s era, like Ruby and Lilly and Emily.

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    • Anonymous

      I quite like the name Monet. I like Matisse too. Perhaps not as a first name though – middle name only for “special” names.

      My sister is due in a few months, and if it’s a boy, he’ll be a Leonardo.

      We’re both really into art history. :)

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  30. Sharon

    My sisters name was supposed to be Noelene but Dad didn’t know how to spell it and it was spelled as Noleen.

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  31. Sjaala pronounced Zhaala (like the J in "joosh")

    i have an unusual name – i like it, yes I have to spell it and pronounce it on a daily basis but it doesnt bother me, ive pretty much been doing since i could speak so its a non issue, generally people that have a second language get it straight away. im well trained when explaining i say its S..J (big pause here let them absorb the tricky bit) a…a pause again l….a then repeat)
    my only gripes are – difficult to be anonymous, no secret posts or vandalism for me and I hate my personalised number plates that my other half gave me!
    I gave both my daughters unusual names – theyre not ‘out there’ but they are different. number 1 gripes about it but i think secretly loves being different and number 2 is probably too young for her to be fussed about it. I dont dislike traditional names, in fact i love alot of the older names and had many on our list but i love the names we chose. More and more i come across unusual names but generally they are because they are foreign.

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  32. Dee, pronounced 'D'

    This topic comes up at our work place EVERY week, when the baby photos arrive in the local rag.

    One mum I work with told me about a kid in their kids class who’s name is Siobahn. Yep, nothing wrong with Siobahn, nice name. Except the parents didn’t know its pronounced “Sh’-vaughn’. So the kids name is pronounced “See-Oh-barn”. I kid you not.

    What I want to know is who decided that the bad spelling craze is something distinctive and seemingly ‘hot’ and not just plainly incorrect.

    There’s a hip-hop album out at the moment, I can’t remember the name, but its spelt with extra Zzs, etc.

    What marketing manager went, ‘hmmm, that spelling, although incorrect, is totally hot and worth putting on the front of an album for all eternity and beyond”? What’s wrong with correct spelling!

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    • Karsyb

      LOL! That Siobahn story reminds me of the movie where Lisa Kudrow’s character is called Lucia and she pronounces it “loosha”.

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    • a for ...

      my step-dad went to school with someone called Sean pronounced Seen “like Sean (Seen) Connery”. oops.

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    • Kelli

      LMAO @ See-o-barn. That is without a doubt the funniest thing I’ve ever heard – before that, it was La-a :)

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  33. Jessica

    There are too many variations on my name, like Jessika, Jessicah, Jesica and many other combinations in between.

    I now tell people that my name is Jessica, spelt the boring way (and I love it) :)

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  34. Holly

    I work in outside school hours care and its just a bit sad to see kids saying ‘my name is xyz but just call me x. No-one ever remembers my name’

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  35. Xqqqqnrvzxty. Pronounced "Kevin"

    All this does is teach kids to be narcissistic. When they turn 18 they should prove they are not as stupid as their parents and change it to the normal spelling.

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    • Kris2040

      Yeah, it isn’t the kids who want to be unique, is it???

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      • Ms Twitchy

        Or U-neek?

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      • Lu

        its the parents screaming for attention, often they have grown up with names like Lisa or Brad and thought that was too boring

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        • Lisa Josephine

          Hmmm… I never considered my name to be boring & am considering Emily Grace for my first born… Sorry I don’t fit your generalisation.

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  36. Anon

    A friend of mine has Russian parents who wanted to give him a traditional name. The closest anglicised version is Simon, but they spelt it S-E-M-E-N.
    He has some pretty interesting nicknames, but chooses to go by Sam.

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    • mel

      that just seem so mean hey

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      • Amanda

        Semen was the name of my russian great-grandfather.

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      • Anonymous

        Not if you come from another country and you don’t know it. I know a guy who was not long in this country before he realised his name, pronounced Shite, was gonna need a reworking.

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  37. jenn

    a friend of mine has a funny name story. Her dad was in the US military and was stationed in Germany. After she was born a nurse came in and asked “name?’ he thought she was asking for his name and replied “Terry (last name)”
    The nurse was actually filling in the birth certificate and now my friend has the same name as her dad! lol!

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    • Kris2040

      Oh no!

      There are so many stories about mistakes on birth certificates – surely you could fix it up???

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      • Kate Geikowski

        I do believe that you can change the birth certificate if there is an error within a certain amount of time.

        Info below is taken from the NSW BDM’s website…

        Error

        Registry error

        * Where the Registry has made an error, a replacement certificate will be made in exchange for the incorrect certificate at no charge.

        Client error

        * Where incorrect or incomplete information was supplied at time of registration, and a replacement certificate is required, a minimum fee of $45.00 (including postage and handling) applies.

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        • Kris2040

          Yeah that is what I thought – there must be a way to correct stuff! Thanks, Kate.

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    • Ren

      A similar story happened to my Dad. My grandparents had only been in the country 3 months when my Dad was born and they couldn’t speak a lick of English.

      My Nonno (Italian for Grandpa) figured out where to put my Dad’s first and surname on the birth certificate, but got confused when asked about for his middle name.

      Funniest thing is, Dad, for over 40 years didn’t think he had a middle name. It wasn’t until he needed his original birth certificate for my little sister’s Australian passport (long story why) that he discovered his middle name was Carl – which was my Nonno’s name!

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  38. JC

    Wow over a thousand comments on baby names no wonder it causes many people so much stress! I say each to there own and although I don’t have an unusual name it can be spelth a variety of ways so I’ve just got used to doing so. I don’t find it horrible.

    One of my children has an uncommon name for our area but my husband liked it and it may sound strange but even though I wasn’t a big fan of the name, nothing else seemed to fit.

    Also if a certain name means you will be less liked, doesn’t it say more about the rest of us and the judgements we make rather than the actual person.

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  39. OhMeOhMy!!

    Wow Mia, you’ve hit the tonne with this one…..so many people with issues about names.

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  40. Ursula

    I’m constantly having to spell my name. People often spell it ‘urshula’, ‘ersala’, and one time ‘yursula’.
    But my name seems completely normal compared to some of those names!

    Also, I was reading in my Human Development textbook, that kids with unusual names are often less liked by their peers than kids with regular names.
    SO just remember that when you’re naming your children.

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    • shelagh

      interesting…the amount of crap that i had to put up with from other kids when i was growing up because of my name drove me insane. now it drives me insane having to spell it and correct people’s pronunciation. my mother’s excuse is probably that it was my aunty’s name,and that she all ready had 3 daughters,rather than trying to be unique… but it’s still a pain in the bum.
      seriously people, if you want your child to stand out- help them develop a personality

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  41. meg

    I think there are better ways to be different than a name with different spelling, but each to their own! We are a half irish family and I love the irish names like Aoife (eefa) and Naeve, but decided in the end that we’d make it easier for our girls. The boy got the irish name, Finn. Now I realise that whatever I had named them, they would have “become” that name anyway, it is something that is said so many times a day (in various shouty voices).

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  42. Friday

    Really, I don’t understand why people are surprised they get different spellings of their name. For goodness sake, how the heck is someone supposed to know how you spell your name..are you famous or what?

    The minute you get more than one spelling of a name you may as well have 10..you still need to let people know how to spell it. And having more than one way to spell a name is not new.. Elisabeth/Elizabeth, John/Jon, Katherine/Catherine, Susanne/Suzanne, Stephen/Steven, Dylan/Dillon, Phillip/Philip, Anne/Ann, Anne-Marie/Annmarie, Sarah/Sara, Shaun/Sean, Geoffrey/Jeffrey etc etc etc.

    So what if you have to learn that the new girl’s name is spelt Mikayla instead of Michaela? What about the new immigrant whose name is something you have never heard of? Do you throw your hands in the air and refuse to accept that someone has a name that doesn’t conform to some invisible spelling manifesto?

    If Kim is spelt with a “y” or Alison has 2 “L”‘s ..is that really a problem? The only way to solve the problem is to name everyone Bob and Sue ..although I think people could get creative with that too. :)

    Who are all these people who are getting your name wrong? Perfect strangers? Well what do you expect? Close friends? Well maybe you need to find new friends.

    Sure some of the latest creative spellings are a bit out there but each to his own. Who are we to tell someone what to call their child.

    You might like the name Persephone – I wouldn’t call my child that, but so what? I might like the name Alice and you might never consider calling your child that..it’s diversity , it’s personal taste.

    To say your taste is right & someone else’s is wrong (or worse “bogan” ) is the height of snobbery IMO.

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    • sarah too

      Sure, but when I say “Sarah… with an ‘h’” they spell it Shara or Sahra… ???

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      • Sarah

        I always Sarah with an “H” or Sarah as in the bible, otherwise people will ALWAYS write down Sara

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        • Stars

          I’m the opposite… My name is Sara (pronounced like Tara but with an S) but people always add a H to it. I have lots of friends that know both a Sara and Sarah and get confused. I don’t think it really matters- everyone is in the same boat. It’s when I answer the phone Hello Sara speaking. Caller: Oh Hi Donna. People too lazy to listen properly is worse than having to spell and correct it. But thats a totally different topic

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    • Sarah - NORMAL SPELLING

      Maybe it’s more of a case that life is hard enough as it is – do you really need the added burden of spelling your name for the rest of your life? There is diversity, then there is dyverrcity.

      I feel sorry for teachers.

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      • tastebud

        Honeslty, teachers and children could do much worse.

        If that’s the worst thing about your life or your job, then you’re doing pretty okay.

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    • Mallee Anne

      I knew a girl called Sue – spelt Sioux!

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    • Little b

      Totally agree with you Friday.

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    • Belle

      I thought “Kim” was the feminine form, and “Kym” the masculine?
      Not picking, genuinely interested.

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      • Anonymous

        i thought it was the other way around… but ive heard both. I think its like leslie-okay either way.

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  43. Shannon

    In response to some posts below asking how it could POSSIBLY be embarrassing to have to spell your name and others asking how people could POSSIBLY get your spelling wrong (I’ve been posting there too, for the record), I offer the following:

    I work in a chain jeweller. About every second customer, we need to ask their details (Jewellery repair, valuation, lay-by, special order) and when people have strange spelling in their names, it’s not embarassing for me straight away. But it is when they rattle through it so quickly (since it’s their name, and it’s easy for them) and you’re like “Um, pardon me but could you repeat that, please?” because you’re still 3 letters in and it sounds so unlike a regular name you’re not sure you heard them right. *Exasperated groan* “I SAID —-”.

    Then I get embarrassed. Or they get embarrassed for holding up the people standing behind them. And then we have to call them when the items come in/layby needs to be picked up/other.

    So when Sidonie Hitzovickast (Is it sid-oh-nee, sigh-doh-ni, sydney?) needs a phone call, we fight over who has to call. Because usually we would say, “Good afternoon it’s Shannon from *insert my workplace here*, I’m looking to speak to Mr/Ms Y/X”. When you have no idea how to pronounce the surname, you use first name. When you can’t pronounce that, and you’ve never met the customer/can’t remember them, you feel and sound like a dickhead. And people do quite often get stroppy that you can’t pronounce their name, because it’s so OBVIOUS. Sometimes, they only want to give a first name and you’re stuck with it from the get-go.

    And then there are the people with regular names, like Emily and Michael. You think they’re regular, but I’ve seen Emmylee, Emilie, Emmily, Emilly. Michael, Micheal, Mychael. So when I politely ask how to spell it to be sure, it’s all well and good to say, “The regular way” but I’ve seen so many different spellings my mind goes blank and can’t for the life of me recall what the normal spelling is anymore, because I’ve seen so many variations. Usually, to avoid this, I always ask for spelling and qualify the statement with a, “There are so many different spellings nowadays, I don’t like to assume.”

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    • Friday

      It must be really difficult in those circumstances and I think the best way, as you say, is to be honest and apologise for not being sure how to say/spell the name.

      In the store I’d have a notepad handy and say it’s store policy for them to write their name so there are no errors. (then you have the problem of illegibility! )

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      • Shannon

        Yup! We used to get customers to write their own, but we often couldn’t read it, so we settled on staff needing to write it because we could (usually) read each other’s writing.

        Just to add, in the store the day we needed to call Sidonie (last name obviously made up, above) we all settled on it logically being pronounced like Sydney.

        It was sid-oh-nee. But she was nice about it =P

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        • Friday

          I think you’ll always be wrong (like kids getting their shoes on the wrong feet!) ..best to ask first! :)

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    • Kate Geikowski

      I have had long Polish surnames (both my maiden name above) and my married name to spell out my whole life and I am never embarrassed that people don’t know how to pronounce let alone spell them.

      If I am at a place like the dr and they start to call out a name and stumble – I automatically get up as I know it is likely to be me. If someone attempts to say my surname – I often smile and say ‘you nearly got it!’ and I will also tell them the correct pronunciation. Not in a ‘bloody get it right’ way but just in an informative way. My married surname ends in a ‘czyk’ it confuses people when they see a Z and when I explain that if they see a name with a ‘cz’ that it is actually a ‘ch’ sound then they are relieved AND they can apply that knowledge to the next cz name they come across.

      However, I often just leave my first name for restaurant bookings and the like over the phone because it is so much easier. Often I find I have reserved the booking under Tate though! lol

      People with difficult surnames should not get exasperated that people at least try and say the name in my opinion – if you are unsure – you can always preface your attempt at saying ‘I’m probably not saying this right but can I speak to Mrs….?’

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      • Miss Courtney

        haha Same here Kate! My first name is difficult for some to pronounce so when im at the coffee shop and they stumble on a name – i always know its me! :)

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        • Evey Mercedes

          Haha I give the wrong name in the coffee shop! I have done for years. I always say my name is Claire or Emma.

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          • Squee

            I do that too! All the local takeaway places know me as Jane!

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    • Emily Reardon

      Hehe, didn’t realise I was so boringly normal – I’m Emily and my fiance is Michael! I do sometimes get asked to spell it, but not very often. The funniest spelling was when I was travelling in Bangladesh. I bought a regional bus ticket and they labelled my backpack with my name – M.L.E!

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      • Another Emily

        I always get asked how to spell my name, even though its a pretty boring name, not to mention common!
        I thought maybe it was because I say my name too fast, but even when I say it slowly, there are always people who put in an extra M, or an L, or add two EEs to the end.
        I’m thinking the reason for this is BECAUSE of the diversity in spellings these days, nobody thinks anybodies name is spelt the “old fashioned way”.

        Maybe we should just be given number instead of a name? I’ll be 6714.

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  44. Anonymous

    I fill out applications for library cards for many people daily. We see a wide range of names with a variety of spellings. I don’t mind unusual names, I just don’t like that people seem offended when I ask them to spell their child’s name for me. If you pick an unusual name, you and your child will be asked daily to spell it. Be prepared.

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  45. Carly

    I get Carly, Carlie, Carlee, Karlie, Karly, Karlee, Kylie. Or am asked if it is short for something..

    So I automatically just spell out my name.

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  46. Kim

    I hate people doing this to innocent babies. I knew a Rhys when I was little, but I’d always call him Rise because to me, that’s what it said. I think if a toddler can’t say it, it shouldn’t be a name.

    I’m Kimberley, and surprisingly most people spell my name correctly. I do get a couple of Kyms, though.

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    • Friday

      Sorry, but that just makes you sound ignorant. In what world is Kimberly a more valid name than Rhys? Rhys is a very old Welsh name..

      Funnily enough Kimberly is the name that would have been put forward as an example of a trendy name if this article had been written in the 60′s & 70′s

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      • Kris2040

        I think Rhys is a nice name. And I have a friend who is called Rhys who says it as in Rice too. But all others I have heard it has been said Reece.

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      • a for ...

        Rhys muldoon from play school!!!! he’s the coolest!

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    • Kimberlie

      My name is spelt ‘Kimberlie’. God knows why my parents chose this spelling over the ‘ley’ version. I am forever spelling it out for people ( it’s an automatic function now!). It’s different, but not enough to annoy me,.

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  47. Destiny

    I get all kinds of different spellings for my names, Destiney, Destinie or the strangest Dystanie. So I compulsively spell my name to people too. When I had my daughter the only debate on spelling we had was between 2 common spellings Lorelai or Lorelei. We went with Lorelai so she wouldn’t be called Lore-LEE all the time.

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  48. Kristopher

    My mom’s name is Kriss, and my parents named me Kristopher without a thought about how confusing it would be if I went by Kris. Now, not only do I have to tell people my name is spelled with a “K”, I also need to tell them not to call me Kris. Not to mention, my last name is German and cannot be spelled or pronounced correctly unless you know us.

    But I like it all! I love my name. I think it’s good to be called Kristopher, because it goes against the common convention of people automatically shortening your name. It really gets to me when I introduce myself as “Kristopher” only to have someone say “Okay, Kris…”

    And having a last name that is nearly impossible to pronounce does wonders for screening my telephone calls!

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    • Kate Geikowski

      Good one Kristopher! We named our boys Samuel and Zachary. We don’t call them Same and Zac – we call them Samuel and Zachary. One of the reasons we use their full names is because my husband’s name is Stan – Stan and Sam? Too close when you are yelling at them! lol

      I so agree with you when you said ‘it really gets to me when I introduce myself as Kristopher and they call you Kris’ well that happens with our boys too and I always correct people.

      Never mind that my boys who are 15 and 16 now introduce themselves as Sam and Zac (their perogative) but when we introduce them it is the full names and they always get the full names by family and old friends.

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      • Kate Hunt

        my grandmother was (until she passed recently) the last one in my family to refer to me by my full name Kathryn. I sort of miss it oddly.

        and for the record, i like my spelling of Kathryn the best… i dislike the erine version, especially with a C… even though thats the classic.

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        • Kathryn without the vowels

          Same here :) Forever spelling it out but wouldn’t have it any other way. I also have to spell my surname (both maiden and married) but it just becomes normal.

          My wee girl is Kaiya, which is Japanese (her Papa is from Japan) but not too ‘out there’. We chose it as its easy to say (simply Kai-ya) though people have trouble spelling it, Im sure she’ll love it. (currently she calls herself Isla though hehe)

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  49. Savannah

    There’s a new reality show on foxtel called “9 by Design” & they named their fifth child (a boy) Five! At least people won’t have trouble spelling that! He turned out to be a twin & they at least had the decency not to name the other boy twin Six!

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  50. Anon

    All you Kardashian fans I just wanted to throw it out there that I think Khloe & Kourtney is name vomit. Why couldn’t they just use a C?
    Kim is the lucky one name wise

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    • bretts gal

      Kris Jenner spelt her daughters name with a K the same as hers. If you look at it the younger 2 are also Kylie and Kendell. I think it is perfectly fine especially when you look at the fact that her only son is named after his father.
      So it is just a family thing.
      I have a friend and her and her 3 brothers all have names that end in “an” it is nothing differnt to people doing that.

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    • lisa

      seeing as their surnames start with K is probably why she uses the K for their christian names..KK..except the son….I like it…

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