by MESHEL LAURIE
My son brought a rock home from our walk around the block the other day. It’s from a meticulously kept garden in the street behind ours. I always try to make sure the rocks end up back where their master intended them, but on this day, one rock was skillfully secreted in a pocket and made it all the way back around the block to our house.
It wasn’t until about 3 hours later actually, when the rock smuggler emerged from his afternoon nap clutching the rock that I realised what had happened.
Unfortunately my husband realised too.
It’s sixteen years next month since we met at a work-for-the-dole scheme in Melbourne. Good times. Since that magical day on the smoker’s landing of a Salvation Army facility, we have endured the usual ups and downs of coupledom. We’ve lived in countless dodgy flats, endured endless family visits and dragged ourselves through plenty of ill-conceived holidays. We pushed through the emotional minefield of infertility more or less together and ended up with IVF twins for our trouble. But that you see, is where our trouble begins.
Parenting with my husband has shown me a whole new side of his character, and frankly, I don’t like it!
I really thought we’d had pretty much every argument we were ever going to have by about 11 years in. Which is not to say we never argued. We did, but our arguments were always about the same things. He spends too much money on cigarettes and beer, I always bring every argument around to cigarettes and beer, blah, blah, blah. However, parenting together introduced a whole new world of issues and ideas about which to blue.
On the day of the rock, as it is now known in our home, as my son strolled out of his bedroom looking for his customary post-nap narna, he was leapt upon from a great height by his father. Dad seemed to believe it was a miracle that no one had been bludgeoned to death in that closed bedroom our boy shares with his sister during their 2 hour sleep. He grabbed the weapon from our sleepy little man, who immediately arched his back and screamed bloody-murder in a reflection of his father’s hysteria.
I stepped in and made it all about Dad’s fixation with power points which he insists are so dangerous they must all have enormous pieces of furniture in front of them, no matter how awkward it renders the room, even though all the points have those child safe plugs in them. Who could care less about his cigarette and beer absorption anymore? I find myself begging him to go out and waste money at the pub just so I don’t have to parent by committee for an afternoon, or is it parenting by competition? The message between the lines that day and many days like it being that I am irresponsible and put the kids in harm’s way.
I can’t help envying my mum, who had no such battles with my father. He didn’t have any input into how we were raised. We could’ve been mining asbestos in the afternoons for all he knew, or cared for that matter. I remember her trying to get him involved in our day to day lives, but to no avail. On the rare occasions he had to “mind” us, his own children, he would feed us pizza, try to teach us how to play cards and unskillfully skip pages in our favourite books. Mum would pretend to be cross with him for sending us to bed with dirty feet, but was clearly thrilled for us that we’d had his undivided attention for a couple of hours. My kids have at least as much attention from their dad as they do from me, which is terrific! (On paper.)
I recently caught up with a friend of mine, a lovely man, who has separated from his equally lovely partner. They are trying to co parent their three year old son who’s birth was an incredibly joyous occasion for them and for both their families. This baby was so longed for, the first grandchild on both sides, with aunts and uncles galore.
Everyone else at the gathering tip toed around him, which made him more uncomfortable, but I really thought I might have had an insight into what was going on, so I took a chance.
“Parenting with another person is really hard isn’t it? No matter how well you know each other, parenting unleashes a whole other side to a person.”
As everyone else held their breath, he exhaled. His shoulders released. He smiled warmly, and a bit tearily. “It really does.” He said.
My husband and I have a choice. We can parent together, all the while annoying the crap out of each other, or we can separate and take turns in doing it all our own way, confusing the crap out of our kids. I think we probably have enough love for each other still buried under the piles of frustration and point scoring to push through this, but I can tell you one thing for sure, parenting is a lot harder than working for the dole ever was!
Meshel Laurie is a comedian and broadcaster. You can catch up with her on Nova’s Drive Show with Tim Blackwell and Marty Sheargold 4-6pm on weekdays. You can also follow Meshel on Twitter here.
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As I have no children I found it really hard at first when I met my now husband and his children were with us every second weekend and half of the school holidays from when they were 11 and 13 eleven years ago. What I would do to get a break is go and stay in a hotel and spoil myself for a weekend and let him be the parent. Sometimes you need some me time.
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Our rule was whoever made the first decision stood, our now gorgeous daughters were very good at playing one against the other, so whoever was asked first, and said yes or no, that was it. Of course they then learnt who you asked for what, and still mostly got what they wanted. There was always the ‘get the littlest one to ask’ tactic, that was pretty effective too. But really if you don’t end up with an axe murderer you’ve done ok? Life’s too short to ruin your relationship over it.
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Oh Meshel how I miss you in the mornings now that we don’t catch up on my drive to work. You crack me up. As the proud mum of men-children, teen boys I have a few words of advice. Number 1 on my list, pick your battles. Figure out what the important non-negotiables for the both of you are and agree to agree on those. The rest will have to be discussed, argued or fought over between yourselves (not in front of the children) as they crop up until the one that feels the strongest about the outcome (or is the loudest) wins. And my best advice ever for parenting, if you think you have the answer and it’s still not working then freaking change the tactics. All kids are different and need different things at different times to grow and we are just kidding ourselves if we think any of us are experts! Good luck.
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My situation is more like your parents, Meshel. Hubby works long hours, Saturdays and then sleeps most of Sunday to recuperate. He also manages to avoid parenting on ‘family holidays’ by arranging work-related visits that take up most of the daylight hours. Evenings are spent writing up the paperwork from the day’s enterprises.
I gave up some time ago waiting for family outings that I organised but could never get him to come to. I now take the kids out myself. He joins us about once a school term for something.
He’s not a bad father. Will happily spend time with them for about an hour in the evenings before bed. Volunteers for the occasional school excursion. We communicate well and adore each other. It’s just the nuts and bolts of parenting that send him into a cold sweat and the idea of the 4 of us going out somewhere together almost makes his brain melt.
I wish it were different, but from reading these comments it seems not many of us get a perfect co-parenting partner. So we make do. There are worse things, right?
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I’m a step-mum to an 8yo, and boy do her dad and his ex have some ripper disagreements about her upbringing.
It’s pretty clear that she has zero-boundaries at home, and she doesn’t get away with a thing when she stays at our house.
Just today my fiance was informed that his ex had allowed the daughter to get her ears pierced, without involving him. Even small things like that cause major arguments.
Oh well. I try not to get involved, but it’s pretty hard.
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Right there with you Victoria, the story of my life. I try to stay out of it too, but I’m too opinionated! My poor husband, he cops it from all sides
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Thank God I’m not the only one. It’s bloody hard this step-parenting!
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I was a step-parent, and even felt like a single step-parent as my ex-husband, the father, worked in China. His son, 15yo at the time, lived with us, or rather me, and I had his daughter, 12yo, every second weekend. It was difficult, however I really enjoyed it and believe I made a difference.
But I discovered I really didn’t like my ex-husband’s style of parenting, which in my perspective was all about making the kids think he’s cool rather than considering their needs and addressing those. So I slowly realised that I wouldn’t be able to have a child with him, sadly. Finally we divorced as there just didn’t seem to be common ground at all, really.
I have since remarried and have a beautiful 3 month old. My husband and I had huge barnies about parenting when he was first born, until we saw the road ahead of us could lead to divorce. So we pulled our heads in and found other ways of discussing our differences. Our relationship is now better and stronger than before our son was born, I believe.
Of course we’ll still have arguments but at least we can handle them much, much better.
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Thanks Meshel, you inspired me to write and add my insight.
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This is interesting and well put.
I’m glad I didn’t have children with my ex-husband but am even happier I had a beautiful boy with my current husband.
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Hi Frances,
Thanks for your feedback, I appreciate it.
I think, in the end, it doesn’t matter what transpires, it’s being true to ourselves and our children which really matters. If you are, you can be at peace with yourself and know you made the right decision.
I’m very happy that you were able to find a compatible partner to share the absolute joy of parenthood with. It is a wonderful life enriching experience regardless.
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What happened to the rock?
(sorry to be so shallow)
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He’s over-compensating with the power-points etc because of his guilt about the cancer sticks. If that’s not the case, then the irony is overwhelming.
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Although I’m divorced, we’re still parenting our sons from different households and still butt heads about it. Example being what I’ve posted about on here before about my 16 year old drinking behind my (our) back at a party. I was horrified. His father chuckled and said ‘oh, I remember doing that’.
I flipped out at him (ex) about it not being funny and what about adolescent brain development etc. etc…. but after I calmed down, I tried to see it from his point of view. Boys WILL push boundaries. His dad had a talk to him about alcohol and health and so on & so forth and it did sink in as it hasn’t happened since.
I have to respect that my son’s father will look at things through his male lens – and that’s okay – as long as the outcome is the same in the end.
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Nice one Kathy. Despite being divorced you can still work together.
I also like the approach your ex husband took by telling your son about health. My parents would have just disciplined me without explaining why it’s not good to do it. I think my folks did a good job, but I will explain things to my son.
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Nothing like parenting to throw the different POVs into sharp relief is there??
I think I’ve read somewhere that you should discuss these issues well before having kids, but most people don’t and even if you do, you may change your mind once kids are actually in your house. Then let’s not forget that your opinions change over time and you’re actually a different parent to each child. Sigh….
Just be a team, try to fill in for the other parents weakness.
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I was thinking about the way people tell you to discuss your parenting philosophies before you have children after I read this article yesterday.
My thoughts on that are that it would be of no use whatsoever for all the reasons you’ve listed above.
In the hazy days of new love/wedding prep, AS IF you are going to disagree on a theoretical parenting issue so strongly that you cannot continue in the relationship! Or: AS IF you are going to resolve a potential parenting issue at least 9 months before any of your children are born, and resolve it so well that it never pops up again! What bollocks.
Really it’s just dumb luck if your parenting styles are identical, and it’s just life if they aren’t and you have to tackle each issue as it arises
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Definitely! Pre-children my husband and I were convinced that he would be the soft touch and I would be the disciplinarian, but it’s turned out the complete opposite! We discussed parenting issues beforehand, but had no idea that the reality would be so different to what we anticipated.
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I want to comment but don’t have time to gather my thoughts .. this is such an emotional topic for me. I excluded my husband from parenting input because he was a) useless and b) didn’t care about the childrens safety.
He’s my ex now, thank heavens, and it is sooooo much easier to parent solo BUT if your husband loves them enough to keep them safe then let him go.
I could never leave the children with mine because they’d end up dead and if a father doesn’t love his kids enough to protect them then I don’t trust his opinion on anything else.
As long as you’re on the same page of wanting the absolute best for them then you will weather the minor disputes.
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I love your writing, Meschel. You’re my favourite.
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Jesus – you have just written my life: complete with the IVF twins.
The side I have seen of my husband since our kids were born nearly four years ago has at times made me want to run to Vancouver (not sure why there, just somewhere fast).
But as the kids have gotten bigger, and we’ve has less control and relaxed a little, it’s become a bit easier.
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I think if two parents care enough about their children to argue about how to raise them, then everything is fine.
I’d like my partner to be interested enough in our kids to actually argue. Sigh.
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I’m so glad you wrote this! I thought it was just us. Everyone else seems to have it together but we seem to have these constant niggling issues that come up. I was a single parent for many years so ‘sharing’ this parenting gig is pretty hard. To add to the confusion we are a blended family and only have his kids every fortnight. It’s really hard. But as long as we keep talking I think we will be ok.
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Thank-you for writing this piece. Lord nows it rang true me with me. My husband and I agree on a lot of the big picture fundamental stuff when it comes to parenting – but sometimes the day-to-day stuff of managing children will have us completely going bonkers at each other – we have such different backgrounds, views of discipline and ideas as to what ‘works’ (in getting a child to sleep, eat their vegetables, behave etc!) Very reassuring to know other people go through this too.
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So funny and sooo true. My husband works alot, and I mean alot, 2 jobs etc etc. Anyway, on rare occasions we all go out together I usually have the kids ready, bags packed, fed, napped and at the door for the 10 minute window he has given us. My husband will then glide in, look approvingly at dressed & tidy baby & toddler and announce he has to brush the boy’s hair. Yes. That’s the SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING that has to occur for this circus to leave the house.
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Just to add another catastrophic element to the nutty mix that is parenting…then there’s the step parent. Picture: Single Mum (SM) with Pre Teen (PT) meets Perfect Guy who moves in. Putting aside all the obvious land mines involved, the clash between SM and PG over parenting is truly diabolical!
SM cares about things like honesty and non-violence because after more than a decade covering the smaller things she thinks PT is about to get ready to head off into the world and needs firming up on fundamental lessons in being honest, knowing they are loved and supported even when they make bad decisions, never trying to solve anything with violence, respecting authority, committing to tasks, making an effort at school and on and on.
PG, who in this case has a three year old from a previous relationship that spends a week here and there with him, cares about the really important things like…um…not leaving socks around the house. PG cannot understand why SM won’t hold a Spanish Inquisition into why PT hasn’t picked up his flipping socks again.
SM and PG have a titanic clash over the whole thing while PT meekly wanders around anxiously checking for any sock escapees.
Ultimately, I think it’s great for kids to be exposed to different parenting styles- they will have different bosses, different Police and different judges if they find themselves in court (eeek) but it sure does make life difficult!
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SM, do PG and PT clash? We have had some whopper arguments in this house. It’s hard being in the middle of them.
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Oh yeah Sally. Not overtly towards each other or anything like that. But I am firmly in the middle of complaints on both sides. Well, I was until a few weeks ago when PG moved out. This issue was a major contributing factor to the move. Of course, they miss each other now- can’t win:(
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Oh, Step parent Dilemma, I Do hope you sort it out together ! xx
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Look ,sorry to say this, but in my opinion he aint such a ‘PG’ if he’s getting huffy about socks for God’s sake.
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Oh, please add 3 new children (under 4) to this mix and there’s my life!! Does it ever work out????
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Meshel… i love you… I’ll marry you and have babies with you
and you can parents them.
In real life however, funny story, very true and I’m actually fearful of this kind of ‘altercation’ with my beloved, come September when little Monster makes his emergence…
Sounds like fun and games for all involved!
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Here here! U speak the truth Meshel! Aint having kids a real blow to a relationship!
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PS one of our arguments was me saying that a two year old cant use a knife and fork, and is still into finger foods , sighhhhh!!!!
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Oh the memories this gave me. Now my youngest is 29!!!! and my husband and I are back to being friends. But we still occasionally have parenting moments. Him:they are old enough to make their own mistakes.Me: but they asked me to do ??? and i am retired now so i have time!!!
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I felt the same way about my husband when we first became parents. My eldest son is now 11 years old and all I can say is hang in there, communicate with your husband and both of you maybe try to compromise. Although we still have a few problems every now and then, now we can both see each other’s point of view about parenting and it just seems easier now.
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Ooooooh yeah. Without incriminating myself with details of LOTS of stories similar to Mechel. All I can say AND as it is said on my ornate $14 kitchen plaque: ‘I’m right… He’s wrong… End of story!’
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Loved the article!! Not only are we inconsistent between each other, he is inconsistent from one day to the next! I am at least consistent, I have to say.
Yet there are some ridiculous things he’s incredibly fussy about that I think are not worth even mentioning. Yet other things, just basic, fundamental commonsense things, he obviously feels are unimportant & skips or does badly. Soooo frustrating.
We’ve nearly split a few times … at the moment I’m taking the ‘annoying the crap out of each other’ option & an article like this has been a huge relief! Thank you
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Love it.
It constantly amazes me how my husband will let something go that I would be completely all over and the next minute jump on the kids about something that I would class as a battle not worth having.
At bedtime, if I am on duty, I do not come back down and get anything (read drink or food) whilst I watch my husband traipse up and down the stairs on errands from both my boys.
The thing is that they know. Kids know that there is no point nagging me for a snack before dinner because the answer will be no. But they will ask dad over and over as they know he will cave.
At the end of the day as long as you agree and are consistent on the big stuff, I find you can get through the little stuff by deep breaths and the occasional glass of wine.
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Oh that’s funny. You can sit on the couch and watch those trips and laugh (to yourself). I notice my toddler just accepts when I say no, because of course I mean it (say, when we’re out or whatever). For now at least!!
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Mummy’s juice!!
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Oh, thank you, thank you, thank you Meshel. I so needed to hear this right now….I am actually near tears from relief. I am also a mum to two and a half year old twins, (also in Brisbane) who has a laid back approach to parenting. I have two older daughters, 9 & 14, who I raised by myself and they are delightful, well mannered, respectful kids so I wasn’t to worried about parenting my twin boys. I mean, if I managed to do it well all by myself, surely it would be twice as easy WITH a loving partner? The reality has been less than easy. My once easy going partner has a very different way of parenting to me. He is a much moreof a ”helicopter’ type parent while I am more of the ‘oh, you ate the sand in the sandpit? Oh, that’s not good for your tummy but you’ll live!” type… Our once easy going, calm household has been fraught lately and we have actually even talked about calling off our approaching wedding. There is no question about the love between us. I love him deeply and I know he feels the same about me but surely if we are going to be married, we should at least agree on the big things…like parenting? We started relationship counselling this week. I hope it helps us as much as reading this article has. Knowing we are not alone in this and that others are going through it makes me feel so much better. Thank you.x
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Oh yes – I too indentify with the stress, strain and frustration… Does it really have to be this hard? In my situation, it is make or break time. I thought I could hang in there “for the sake of the kids” – but hubby & I are such different ppl – in all regards. Sigh… If anyone can recommend an experienced marriage counsellor in SE Melb I would be grateful. And thanks Meshel – there is some (small) comfort in knowing I am not alone.
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Good luck Struggling. I hope you work it out.
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Hi Struggling. I have a great contact for you in Camberwell. He is brilliant with men and women alike. He has seen my husband and I through some very trying times and if truth be told most of my family and a fair few friends have also seen him. I’d rather not post his mobile number here though. I’ll alert the moderator and see if they can send you my email so I can give you the details.
Hang in there.
CHeers
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Thank you sincerely Caro – I honestly feel like a recommendation is the best way to go but it’s soooo hard to just ask around without baring yr soul. I/we do have peer support but professional help is required now. Pls email me via tm@snaps.info – Camberwell is only 10mins away, so sounds v.good. Hopefully he does evening appts. Really really appreciate it!! x
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Hi Struggling – I would highly recommend Geoff from Malvern Psychology in Glenferrie Road. He does CBT and works with you to design and implement actual strategies to try and resolve/deal with issues, which I’ve found is an effective type of therapy. I’ve been to Geoff with my husband and by myself for 2+ years now. Well worth the money and effort. Telephone 9509 2055 or google. Best of luck. It can be a hard road and takes a lot of courage.
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WOW! Thank you so much Peace – I am really glad I didn’t delete my MM post and keep burying my feelings and struggles. CBT sounds like the ticket (esp. for hubby who is purely scientific and needs it spelt out in b+w) and Malvern is very closeby. Honestly, I am quite scared to make these calls next week, but also so sincerely grateful for ppl’s feedback & guidance. Maybe it’s not too late for us after all? Deep breath – baby steps – fingers crossed.. But thanks again x
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Hi Struggling – not sure if you’ll read this but I just wanted to let you know that I’m thinking of you and hoping that you’ve found a path to move you forward in your relationship – what ever the outcome may be.
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Hi! Thank you!! We started sessions 4 weeks ago and so far so good. Long way /lotsa hard work to go but I believe we are in good hands – which helps me feel more “hopeful” and positive about everything really. Was scary taking that step but so grateful that the leap of faith paid off. Up to us now.
x
You are just so lovely to follow-up, I am extremely grateful.
Take care
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That’s great news. It’s bloody hard work but it’s worth it!
Best of luck with everything.
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Hilarious! Glad to hear of someone else living with a partner who is obsessed with power points! I too have to live with oddly placed furniture that hides power points. We have so little easy access to electricity, we might as well be living in Downton Bloody Abbey!
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great article Meshel!
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Oh man, I hear you!
I also know now that hubby’s also going to clean the kitchen sink, toilet, fold clothes, stack the dishwasher and mow the lawn differently to me too.
Breathing helps to try and let the frustration go, but sometimes it’s just too much!!!
Parenting relationships are the ultimate test, my friend!
xx
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The dishwasher!!! What is he thinking!!!!!! How on earth can a man with an engineering degree do such a hopeless job of stacking plates! And don’t even start me on hanging out the washing…
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As long as there’s consistency on the big ticket kid things then I think two different parents give great balance. My husband is definitely a soft touch. But I’ve taught my nearly 3yr old well. If he gives her dessert instead of dinner she’s been known to tell him “just tonight, daddy”!
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Omg!!!!!! Thank you Meshel Laurie!!!!!!! I honestly thought I was the only one that thought this way!!!!!!!! Xxxxxxxx
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Ah yes! Different parenting styles.
My husband went away for a couple of days, and at one point I could be heard to say in a very menacing voice to my children “if you get in trouble with me now, there’s no daddy to run off to and save you. You’ll be sitting in your bedroom until you rot”
Children can cope with different parenting styles – mine seem to know how to make the most of it – isn’t that just a lesson for life – people are different, and learn to make the most of it.
For the most part, my husband and I are very cooperative, and respect our differences.
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Wow, I thought I was the only one in this situation. I am easy going- don’t let much phase me an I parent this way hopeing to raise a polite easy going little man, but since the birth of my son 2 years ago, my darling husband had turned into this super stressed worried about everything maniac! My son has to only cough & he wants to book a doctors appointment, my son would still be eating mashed/pureed food if my hubby had his way( massive choking phobia), starting day care, so I can return to work (1day a week- mind you) has his paranoia of nits & germs in overdrive. I always wanted 2 or more kids but some days I wonder if I could go through all this again….I wonder if all the sign were there before he became a father? I can’t remember…or wasn’t looking.
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Ellie, you poor thing! Sounds like your hubby has anxiety issues, these can be managed/helped with treatment – the best tool I know of is meridian tapping (EFT/SET).
But! I also wanted to say you’re usually a lot more chilld out with the second bubba, so go for it if you really want a second!
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Yeah have another one, the standards go down with each child. He will be giving the 3rd a bowl of sugar and a spoon for five minutes silence
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Ah Meshel, I would recommending staying together and annoying the crap! Our two boys, 22, and 19, have been brought up by loving parents who don’t agree on anything – and yet the boys have not seen any conflict of real substance. I’ve brought them up my way (manners/morals/study hard/value relationships) and my husband has brought them up his way (don’t worry about anything at all really,as long as you are happy) and they turned out OK – actually pretty good on the whole!
We just got to a point where we stopped arguing about parenting, and the boys just tended to drift towards whichever parent they got the most out of, at any particular time!
Loved the article.
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‘got to a point where we stopped arguing about parenting’ … when o when is this going to happen? Our oldest of three is 13 & I’m worn out!
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Gosh darn it, I just love you Meshel Laurie!
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I can relate to you ‘mooner’ in that having a second child has brought out the worst in my hubby, myself and our toddler! We are all tired with a newborn to adjust to and my husband is having to spend more time taking care of our eldest. He has very different ideas on discipline and a far shorter fuse. It’s as though my husband loved the idea of having a family, but the reality of it is another thing. It’s a good point you raise Meshel about how a fathers involvement as a parent has evolved. These days you both work, parent, cook, do housework, etc. and share a lot of the responsibilities rather than have distinct roles. There is a lot of pressure on you both and opportunities to clash! Lately I’ve been wondering where my funny, easy-going, romantic husband went to, there is so little time or energy for each other. Please tell me fellow parents that it gets better and more enjoyable to be a parent over time!
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It does get better Ammber! We had a really difficult time together after our 2nd baby arrived (and our older one was a very demanding toddler). Once you start getting a bit more sleep I’m sure you will both start to feel more ‘normal’ again.
I don’t really know ANYONE who has cruised through the arrival of the second baby, when they are close in age! Tough times.
Good luck with it
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I’m now divorced from my children’s father, but while still together and parenting our first newborn I made a decision early on that has held me in good stead through both situations. HE’S GOING TO PARENT DIFFERENTLY AND IT’S OKAY. My parents had differing styles and my brother and I both turned out quite well. We get different things from each our parents. (although neither of us picked up our mother’s love of ironing). Unless there is inherent danger to your child directly because of the other parent’s style of parenting. Let. It. Be. The kids will turn out fine. Trust me. My kids are 13 and 9 now and adapt to two different homes and two very different parents. They’re growing up to be two totally amazing people that I’m super proud of. Yes my ex does things that make me scratch my head and wonder what planet he comes from – but every other weekend the kids come fed, bathed and happy. So it’s all good…live and let live…you’ll save yourself an aneurysm!
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Thanks Meshel, this article has made my day. Planning to read it with my husband tonight and share a laugh. Makes the argument that we had last night seem so normal!!
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Meshell, I have had a bad week for exactly the reasons you have described above. I love my husband but it seems we are constantly at each other when it comes to our different styles of parenting. I have spent most of this week worrying that there is something wrong with us! Thanks for making me smile and helping me realise that what I am feeling is common and maybe even normal
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Kate, Kate, Kate. The worry will only give you wrinkles
Parenting is a very hard job and it would be very unusual if couples agreed on parenting styles. If you have the belief in your ability to parent well – then that’s the most important thing. Good luck and have a lovely weekend
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Oh Meshel, your post could not have come at a better time! I’ve just returned to work and my husband is now a stay-at-home-dad (after 15 years a 2 deployments in the army!) to our 2 children…. and I’m finding it bloody hard to let go and just let him do things ‘his way’.
Thank you so much for helping me realise I’m not alone!!
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I just love your stories. So true and actually appeals to all us not so perfect parents. You should have your own website or maybe you already do
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I love parenting with my husband- as long as he does it my way!
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“Parent by committee” – Hah, I love it!
Until recently I had my husband home with me 24/7 for several months while he recovered from surgery. And I mean 24/7. He couldn’t be left alone so he did everything with us. Trips so school, trips to the supermarket, even came with me when I had to see a client! The poor kids couldn’t take a trick. Not only did they have the FULL attention of both their parents, if they stepped out of line, they had both of us on their back at once. I’d shout at the kids, my husband would shout at the kids, then I’d shout at him for shouting at the kids. It was quite a sideshow. When I would ask him not to step in if I was already dealing with the kids he would tell me he was only trying to help me, so that I wasn’t always the one looking after the kids. I couldn’t wait for him to go back to work so that I didn’t have to parent by committee. I’m quite happy for him to earn the money to support our family and for me to manage the kids. That’s how we work. And I love him, really I do. But I don’t want to be thrown together with him 24/7 again.
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Being with my husband 24/7 for any extended length of time drives me nuts! Throw the kids into the mix too and you have the recipe for disaster.
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OMG, you are telling the story of my life, My late husband & I only ever argued about the kids!! It was horrendous.! Now my new husband has the co care with me of my 34 yr old disabled son, and we rarely argue, he even has been know to clean a shitty bum! How awesome is that? Any man who wants to know how to win a woman heart, try cleaning something yuk!
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Ne’er a truer word spoken! Asked husband to “watch” children while had shower, to come back out and find one eating something from under the couch and the other trying to get dressed over his pyjamas. Husband reading book on couch… Big argument ensued as he WAS watching them. WT?!!
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I’d like to know exactly how many husbands are reclining horizontally while on babysitting duty (I know I’m not supposed to call it that but when you do 1%, that’s what it is!). The couch, the floor, the bed. Dad is ‘playing’ while lying down. Dad is reading in bed. Dad is just lying down
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This is something that I have realised for the first time just recently. It has not really been a problem for the last 4 years but since the birth of our second child my husband has had to take more responsibility for our oldest. So during the times I’m sitting on the couch breastfeeding I am observing (and commenting on – or trying not to comment on!) his different style and the ‘mistakes’ I think he is making! Really it’s just his way, I know that. He may achieve better results that me – or worse – if he were parenting alone. Hopefully we’ll never know. So, for the benefit of the children, I truly believe we need to blend our styles and present a united front. The child needs to know that they are not going to get a different result if they don’t like what one parent has to say and turn to the other parent.
I am trying my hardest to have un-heated conversations when our oldest is in bed/not around about what our policy is on *this* and *that*. The trouble is that there are SO MANY *this*s and *that*s – new ones every single day – it’s impossible to have a policy on everything and impossible to remember the policies on everything. Trying to be a good parent is so hard and I feel like we are constantly losing the battle of consistency.
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You have to be absolutely at one, or the little buggers will see the cracks between you and exploit them for all they are worth until the moment when you will want to fire your whole family into the heart of the sun.
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Am I the only person who got to the end and thought no story actually happened? Like… what happened with the rock? I don’t understand. Maybe I’m just tired. The whole co-parenting thing is probably really hard, I don’t have kids, so I don’t know. But what happened with the rock? I’m just confused…
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i agree… where was this story going? what happened with the rock??
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I think the story was that her husband was angry at her for letting him take a rock to bed lest he swallowed/choked on it or used it as a weapon and this was an example of a time when their parenting styles clashed.
I was a bit confused about the man at the party… why were people tiptoeing around him and what happened that made Meshel approach him and say “Parenting with another person is hard”?
Great topic and article though Meshel as I have said above this is very topical for me.
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Meshel’s husband thought the kids would bludgeon each other with the rock. The man at the party was a newly single dad – and everyone was tippy toeing around him because of this.
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Seems the way of most of the posts on this site, titles bigger than their stories… I am often left wondering why I bother reading when the story seems to stop when it is getting started!
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