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I adore Dominic Knight. He’s one of the original founders and writers for The Chaser. He has also written two books, Disco Boy and Comrades. He wrote this honest and revealing insight into male cluckiness, published in full on his blog:

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“I’m living the dream. At 33, I have practically no responsibilities, and a fun job that supports my need for overseas holidays and shiny gadgets. Working as a writer, I can stay up late and generally have no reason to emerge from bed before mid-morning. It’s a pretty nice life, except for the minor point that the dream I happen to be living bears a striking resemblance to the one I had as a twelve-year-old boy.

And yet, as pleasantly uncomplicated as my life is, I can’t quite shake the sense that there should be something more. Something like a baby, perhaps. I haven’t made much progress with finding a prospective mother or anything concrete like that, but I’m fairly confident that it’s time for fatherhood. So, while my lifestyle is certainly enjoyable, I’m increasingly certain that I’d happily trade it for a kicking, screaming bundle of joy. Well, I don’t know that I’d trade my iPad – but everything else, certainly.

Even the thought of having to get up at the crack of dawn and change a filthy nappy doesn’t put me off the whole thing, the way it used to. Not when I picture myself dandling my son indulgently on my knee, or fondly wiping the drool off my daughter’s face. I imagine myself dispensing helpful advice that they’ll ignore, or making somewhat erroneous claims about how the world works, or kicking a ball around in a backyard I’ve yet to acquire.

I remember how much my parents meant to me as a child. When I was a boy, I was so excited about seeing my dad when he arrived home from an extended work trip that I used to make Welcome Home signs, and hang them up around the house. But now, I rather like the idea of somebody making a cutely misspelt Welcome Home sign for me. Because as I’ve found, making them for yourself isn’t quite the same.

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I used to be comfortable with the idea that all this would happen in the distant future, because childrearing seemed to involve so much compromise. Our society views bachelorhood as a desirable, glamorous state, like Mr Big’s life in those blissful moments when he doesn’t have to put up with Carrie Bradshaw. I didn’t want to give up my capacity to drop everything and head to Vegas for a night on the tiles, like a character from Swingers. But now I’ve come to realise not only that I never did much partying, but that having a family would probably be a significant trade-up on my current social life.

But here’s the thing – as Sathnam Sanghera wrote in The Times when articulating his own desire for fatherhood, “single, straight, 33-year-old men aren’t allowed to confess to broodiness.” The stereotype is that women are the clucky ones who entrap us free-spirited men into settling down, and that we spend the whole time staring wistfully out the window, wishing we were at the pub with our mates.

The thirty-something childless woman who is racing against her biological clock has become a cliché in popular culture thanks to movies like The Back-Up Plan, in which Jennifer Lopez gives up and undergoes artificial insemination, but meets the man of her dreams the same day. (Oh, the irony!) The male norm, by contrast, is Seth Rogen’s character in Knocked Up, who has to be dragged kicking and screaming into responsibility. A male character who shared the same worry would seem absurd, especially in Hollywood, where every second pram is being pushed by a septuagenarian.

Sanghera notes that single men expressing an interest in young children is something of a taboo in our society, because of our heightened consciousness of paedophilia. As a result, we single men have to tread extremely carefully around children, lest we be suspected of having problems that run rather deeper than bad luck in finding a partner.

While the image of the irresponsible man who’s not ready for fatherhood is pervasive, a study by the women’s NGO Catalyst (quoted in USA Today) found that the men of Generation X are less willing to compromise having families for career goals than their forefathers. According the researcher Paulette Gerkovitch, 79% of men born between 1964 and 1975 rated having a family as very important, while only 25% rated workplace success as highly. USA Today also noted several famous examples of men in this demographic who decided to leave women who weren’t ready for childbearing, such as Brad Pitt and Benjamin Bratt. After leaving Jennifer Aniston and Julia Roberts, both men quickly became fathers.

This sense of broodiness is particularly difficult given the absolute avalanche of babies that have recently arrived in my life. Somewhat counterintuitively, my peer group has chosen to greet the financial uncertainty of last year’s global economic crisis by taking on the vast additional cost of parenting. Since August last year, there have been more than twenty arrivals in my broader group of friends, to the point where the new mothers having been gathering weekly in a park to enjoy hanging out during their maternity leave. The new parents of this tiny army include my old school friends, close colleagues and my brother – my younger brother.

The parents are in the majority now. Every time I open Facebook, I’m inundated by a flood of some friend’s baby pics, and where I used to think they resembled alien autopsy photos, now I’m somewhat embarrassed to admit that I find every single one adorable. And while of course I’m delighted to greet each new arrival individually, and will happily bowl up to the hospital clutching the requisite stuffed toy, taken together they’ve produced a level of peer pressure I haven’t experienced since the heyday of the Hypercolour t-shirt.

I did try to fight it, this baby urge. Shortly after turning 30, I acquired a group of friends in their mid-20s, but now they’ve all settled down. I even joined 751,873 other people in a Facebook group called “Everyone I know is getting married or pregnant, I’m just getting drunk”. But I left almost immediately because – who’d have thought – it was all a bit shallow.

So now I’m on the verge of middle-age, at that scary point where if I don’t take a Contiki 18-35 tour soon, I’ll never be allowed to. And I’m already convinced that I can’t beat the parents, it’s just that I can’t quite see a way to join them yet. And it’s not like they let single fathers adopt.

It’s not just my mates who’ve been undergoing a baby boom, though. Australian Bureau of Statistics figures from November last year show that in 2008, the country hit a 38-year high in its birth rate, with 296,000 registered. The stats for 2009 aren’t available yet, but anecdotally, it’s shot up even higher. I just hope the Government has gotten its modelling right, and the Australian economy won’t be bankrupted by the baby bonus.

The ABS stats were somewhat reassuring – they gave the median age of the fathers at 33.1, with mothers at 30.7. So if I get a wriggle on (if that phrase isn’t too graphic), I won’t even be that much of a statistical outrider. I’m more motivated than ever, since I discovered one study which found that childless men had lower life expectancies and higher rates of addiction.

As I’ve spent time with some of the newborns I now know, I’ve come to realise that we’re programmed to find babies fascinating, even though by any objective measure (such as those I used to apply before my cluckiness set in), they do little besides feeding, making loud noises and interrupting your sleep. To look at them rationally, they’re milk-powered vuvuzelas with an overactive bowel.

But now, when I hold a baby, and especially one who belongs to parents who mean a lot to me, I find myself taking an interest in the kid’s happiness, even given my complete inability to influence it. I’m ashamed to say that I even caught myself lecturing one new father about not letting his child sleep when he was clearly exhausted – which was totally ridiculous of me, since my current level of baby expertise revolves around hoping I won’t drop them.

While wrestling with a particularly acute case of parenthood pangs recently, I rather naively posted on Facebook that I wished there was some kind of timeshare scheme for being a dad, where you could spend quality time with babies without completely nuking your lifestyle. One single dad I know rather tartly observed that such schemes existed, in many cases by court order. And I was inundated with messages from parents saying that they’d be grateful of any way of getting rid of their offspring, for any period between a couple of hours and permanently. All of which quelled my enthusiasm somewhat.

But the pangs never entirely go away, particularly when I spend time with a baby. I’m sure it’ll happen for me eventually, and I’m certainly fortunate that my fertility has a slower rate of decline than it does for women in their thirties. But until guys like me get our acts together, we’d appreciate it if society acknowledged that not all single blokes view the prospect of parenthood as an unwelcome incursion into their precious footy-watching time.

This article first appeared in the July 11 issue of Sunday Life. Love that mag…..

You can take a closer look at Dom Knight’s blog here and follow him on Twitter (he’s funnnneee) here.

I know there are loads of blokes who read this website so come on, speak up. Is there such a thing as a male biological clock? Or are some men just keener than others to be fathers?

Girls – come across this in your travels?

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85 Comments so far

  1. She'll be right mate

    My man, it’s just around the corner. We men can now make babies better than females. You must have missed the article in The Australian which showed we are now able to create a genetically perfect ovum from stem cells. This means we don’t have to take one from a human female because it would be genetically imperfect. Very soon we will be able to gestate babies in vitro. The baby gets the exact nutrients it needs at every stage with no concerns about what a mother may ingest. Once this is perfected you will find clinics popping up in competition to IVF clinics. Although much more expensive, you have a 100% success rate. You have a 100% guarantee of paternity. The clinic will never steal your child. You don’t have to pay the clinic anything when you have no further use for it.

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  2. Refreshing

    Love this post and its honesty. It is sad how a man’s interest in children and having them can be misconstrued so easily in today’s society.

    My husband has found himself in the same position as Dom over the past two years except he had the means for a baby (me) just not the timing.

    While his friends who were new fathers were complaining about ‘family Sundays’ and not being able to go to the pub whenever they wanted, my hubby would tell me that he would much prefer to be on a picnic with his children than drinking beer.

    I’m happy to say that this will be a reality for him (us) next year and he is already planning the shared parenting roles including taking a weekday off each week to be home with baby so I can go back to work an extra day.

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  3. LoveIt

    What a great post.

    The first time we had sex, my (now husband) boyfriend asked me how many kids I wanted. I scoffed and choked. We ended up with 2 about ten years later, tubes tied, all finished.

    8 years later I finally gave my hubby my answer – it’s 3, and that’s why I’ve just spend a week laying in a hospital bed after having a tubal reversal, which, for the record, is like having a caesarean but without the baby to make it all worthwhile!! I’ve watched my hubby & 2 older kids get clucky all year as we lead up to this!

    I think its wonderful that men can admit that babies are cute and that they want one!

    My younger brother’s theory was that pushing his nieces/nephews in a pram was a ‘guaranteed chick magnet’. There ya go Dom. Just offer to babysit a bit more and they’ll be lining up for you (but reading the comments on this I think they already are!).

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  4. welikebannas

    What a great post! There really is a stigma around men being interested in babies / children and it is such a shame. My husband was definitely more clucky and he is now such a hands on and wonderful dad to our 1yr old son. But he said that it’s hard when he is out working and he sees another child the same age as our son, because he wants to interact and play with them, yet he feels like he’s be “that weird creepy guy”. There should be more men openly admitting they’re clucky, there is nothing sweeter then a grown man being putty in a baby’s tiny hand!

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  5. Lucy

    I find Dom’s point of view interesting, because I find myself completely opposite to my male friends. I have no interest at all in ever having children, but my best mates who are blokes are really keen to settle down and have kids at some point in their lives. Some of them even have names picked and have decided I can fill the role of weird single friend who doesn’t have a family of their own and comes and plays with their kids instead! ;) Maybe I just know a group of particularly open and honest guys, but I haven’t observed this in my own social circle. Maybe it has something to do with our being young too – maybe men in their early 20s now have a different attitude or perspective on this?

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  6. Finding Ella

    I will be 27 next month and I work in a Kindergarten. I am in a serious relationship and know that I want a family with my boyfriend. I want a baby before I am 30 though. By then I hope I will still be with him , and have finished my degree so I get a better pay. Now I am happy to wait , but sometimes my hormones go crazy and I feel like I need a baby NOW. My head says it is not the right time , but my body is thinking : Babies Babies Babies !!

    Good luck Dom , many many women would give everything to have someone like you.

    Ps : If I were single , I would have your babies ;)

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  7. sleepyhead

    Lovely article but the biological clock thing is so unfair isn’t it? I felt the same cluckiness as Dom throughout my 30s, a decade in which I bounced from one disastrous relationship or affair to another. Now I’m with a wonderful guy and have finally got my shit together, but at 44 my eggs are all shrivelled up. By contrast, even if it took Dom as long as it took me to work out my personal life he could still go and find a 34 year old to have children with. Which is not to take anything away from him, just to reiterate the point that the differences between the genders, when it comes to this issue, are grossly unfair.

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  8. Mattie loves to read

    I fell in love while reading your post :) I adore the fact that you’re man enough to confess to your broodiness. Hope you find love and make lots of little Knights together.

    Now, pulling myself together, I have come across male broodiness, both in my marriage and with friends. In my husband’s case, he wanted kids probably more than I did, and he was definitely the reason we had child No. 2. I was more than happy with just 1 child but my husband desperately wanted another. I did it to make him happy and am so glad I did because she’s a wicked 9 year old with a MASSIVE personality. We also have a friend who admitted when he was 30 and had been married for a couple of years, that he quote “yearned for children”. He’s now a happy dad to 3.

    Good luck!

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  9. Belle

    Dear Dom Knight,

    I (and about 20 other women I know) would love to meet you & have your babies. Where to find you? (Twitter stalking is awkward).

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    • Finding Ella

      I saw him first :P

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  10. Sabrina

    Oh my what a wonderful article, I got a bit choked up to tell you the truth. I have no doubt Dom will find someone as lovely as he is and be a great dad. Good luck and thank you the beautiful, honest and eloquent piece.

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    • Mandy

      I know. me too! Tears unexpectedly welled when I read your lines

      “I used to think they resembled alien autopsy photos, now I’m somewhat embarrassed to admit that I find every single one adorable.” I’m exactly the same, but it wasn’t until I had my own that I felt that way about newborns.

      There is definitely something very attractive about an eloquent clucky guy and I’m also excited for you that you have all these lovely ladies proposing ;) I’m sure you’ll be a wonderful dad one day!

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  11. Jess

    My hubby was the one who really pushed for us getting pregnant this year (we’re due in October) after his best mate had a baby. Now my brother in law has jumped on the bandwagon and is working on making me a neice or nephew soonish. All the wives in this equation were open to starting a family “sometime in the vague future” but there is something very sexy about a man who wants you to have his babies.

    He’s not clucky in the “let’s buy little outfits” way- he’s genuinely keen to raise the best kid we can- he’s already gone and bought a book on teaching kids to read! It’s lovely to see him with little ones- they think he’s a human tree built for climbing on and he just loves it!

    He’ll be a great dad because he’s already a great, all-round good man.

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  12. Flutterby

    Mr By is endearingly clucky. He got to 35 and never thought he would have children – now he has 3! Not all his, but he never minds and neither do they. In fact, he would love another.

    Ever since that Mars/Venus book, people have deeply entrenched genders in particular behaviour. Sometimes, we forget it’s a deeply HUMAN need to procreate. More men would admit to it, if it was socially acceptable.

    Good on you Dominic, I’m sure you’ll be flooded with offers from lots of ladies ;) . The first step to getting your life work for you is working out what you want!

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  13. Janey

    I’m currently with a man who is 35 and has just told me he doesn’t want any children. I’m 33 and just shattered as I have an 11yo from previous marriage but would love to have more. If our relationship doesn’t survive this issue, I’m so relieved that there are men out there that genuinely do want children. Of course, it’s finding that man that’s the hard part!!

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  14. MJB

    We have two boys, both times he is like no no no kids not now its all bad timing etc – then when they are born he is a big puddle of love, he is such a great dad!

    Still trying to convince him for the third – oh he will be alright when its born LOL!!!

    Wish me luck ladies ;)

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  15. Al

    Yes! I know one! I married him!

    We rarely fight, but one of our biggest arguments was when discussing when we’d have our children. I needed more time and he got worried that I didn’t want them at all. We now have our first child and he’s such a proud dad :-)

    just on the point about not being able to be clucky because of the concern that people will misunderstand and think you’re a paedophile. On facebook recently I commented on a baby photo, saying it was cute, not realizing that I was logged into his account not mine. When I realised the mistake he got so concerned about how that comment would be viewed and I quickly deleted it. I think that is really sad.

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  16. Peanut

    I feel for him! It’s hard when you want something so badly and are ready for it, but your life doesn’t quite match up yet.
    I hope he finds someone nice who feels the same, and gets it happening soon.
    I know lots of guys who are excited to start their families, but the ‘your life will be over, and it’s all about the party-party’ groups tend to be pretty vocal, especially guys.
    It may be naive, but I’m hoping to still go to parties when I have Little Bean! It might just involve more tag teaming for my husband and I…

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    • Peanut

      I was actually feeling dissatisfied with a party lifestyle a few years ago! Maybe sometimes people use their kids as an excuse not to party, when really they felt that way for a while…

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  17. Karen

    I have a very good friend like this. He is so keen to start a family and loves little kids. My daughter has the cutest jumpsuit from him. He’s yet to meet someone though. We talk about it a bit, but he’s currently living OS so it’s not like I can set him up with anyone. Even if he lived in Sydney I actually don’t know many single women. I think it’s hard for some guys to put themselves out there, especially if they’re not the sporty alpha male type.

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    • Anonymous

      Post a picture of him :P

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  18. Mish

    Oh Mia, give this gorgeous man my number!

    I’m a single mum with a 20 month old daughter. I’d love one or two more when the right man comes along, or failing that, via a donor. Holding a baby, I thought I’d be invisible to men, but I was shocked when men started coming up to us in the supermarket/ post office/ bank/ on the street and tell me how gorgeous she is. Or just look at us with that clucky smile. Men come and talk to us much as childless women do. And I’ve heard many men say “I can’t wait to be a Dad!”

    Problem for me is, most of these men assume I am taken. Now that people often have children out of wedlock or don’t wear wedding rings (which is fantastic that we have a choice) its harder to identify single parents. And its kinda awkward to just sneak it into a conversation with a stranger… “Thanks, she’s cute. I’m single!”

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  19. anon

    i decided long ago that any of those Chaser boys were welcome to my eggs. What spunks!!!!!!!

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    • mamaruns

      I agree! My fave Chaser lad shares a first name with my baby boy, so it’s probably a bit weird for me to openly lust after him. Well, that and my husband might raise an eyebrow.

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    • Kate

      I can’t quite get all crushy over Craig Ruecassel – but that’s mostly because he really was the kinda geeky guy in the year behind me at school. (As opposed to like the kinda geeky guy in the year behind you at school)

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      • but, but...

        he’s the spunkiest of the lot! Even a Liberal polly was once so taken with his good looks that he couldn’t help commenting on how handsome Craig was in the middle of being fronted.

        Shame he’s taken with a zillion kids

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        • Kate Woolard

          True…BUT it’s still impossible to see him as anything but the geeky kinda spotty guy who was trying so hard to be school captain in my memory.

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  20. T

    Wish my boyfriend felt more like this!! Totally agree with Miss Lou’s comment down there.

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  21. es.oh.en.jay.aye (Sonja)

    so after reading this, i’ve figured it out: all i need to do is find someone exactly like dom. only, 10 years younger. preferably christian. local. wouldn’t mind living in the NT/Africa…

    should be easy, right?

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  22. MadisonC

    Dom that was beautifully written. Now I’m teary.

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  23. PCV

    I totally agree with Dominic.

    Women aren’t the only ones with a biological clock. Just because men CAN have children later in life doesn’t mean they want to. I have seen the sadness in the eyes of a number of 30-something men who are well and truly ready to settle down and start a family but just haven’t met the right woman yet.

    It’s heartwarming to know that not all men equate having kids with being ‘tied down’.

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  24. Picardie.girl

    I’m pleased to see someone writing an eloquent, intelligent article about this. I remember being appalled to hear about a young man who liked children being harrassed out of doing Early Childhood because everyone questioned why he wanted to work with children over and over again.

    Our kids should not have solely female carers, and it is bad for everyone to scare off men who would have been great with kids from working with them.

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    • Mum of one

      So true Picardie.girl – the Wiggles started out doing Early Childhood and look at how successful they are! And so good for our children to have male role models, I agree.

      I remember having a male teacher when I was in infants school, which was very rare, and just loving having him as my teacher. I was also fortunate to have a lot of positive male role models around me growing up – hmmm, might explain why I’ve never been a girly girl…

      My son has developed such a good bond with his father already and decided after saying ‘Dad’ a few times, that this wasn’t appropriate. He now prefers to call me “Mum” and my husband “Ma”, much to everyone’s amusement and always with a twinkle in his eye, cheeky boy…but hopefully indicates how important his Dad is in his life!

      Men like Dom have nothing to be ashamed of and great to see him put it out there in the media.

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    • Anonymous

      I have heard those stories , I work in that field ( am female ) and men often do not work with kids because they are afraid of doing something wrong and getting into trouble because they are male.Kids love male childcare workers ! wish we had more.

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      • Faybian

        Our school before and after school care centre has a couple of male child care workers (doing other degrees at the same time). The kids love them. A friend of mine took my oldest daughter to a fathers day kindy event years ago and the teachers raved about him. I told him and he eventually did his primary teaching degree.

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      • Bernard

        As a man I can tell you there is a massive disincentive to work in childcare. You will get questions for your entire career over why you like working with kids. It will never stop. You will get strange looks from woman and see the hesitation in their eyes as they hand over their children to you.

        Why would you subject yourself to this? On paper many women say they have no problem with men being around kids, but if those same women saw me walk through the playground where their kids were playing, they would watch me like a hawk. Just for what’s between my legs.

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  25. TaraC1

    I love hearing this stuff – I do come from a family where my mum openly admits that if it wasn’t for dad hassling her, she wouldn’t have had children. And she loves us (and us her) so much.

    So often it is the female of the species that is portrayed as the “baby father stalker”, desperate and turning men off all over the place.

    I have recently been approached by a friend, who at 33 doesn’t want to miss out on being a father, and knows that I (single and late 30′s) would love to be a mother. We are dicussing the options and how it could work for us to have a baby together. It may or may not eventuate, but it is so reassuring to know that we both have options.

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  26. Miss Lou

    Oh my God. My uterus just skipped a beat.

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  27. Bella Bella

    I think it is great that Dom is like this, and good luck to him.

    However in my experience, there are a lot of men out there (and no doubt some women) who are clucky until the kid actually arrives. The relentless nature of early parenthood can be a huge shock, and many people lack the imagination to foresee what their lives will be like after children.

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  28. frankie

    My husband was the opposite of clucky! He had to be convinced, and convinced and convinced. Tedious. Turns out he’s the best dad I’ve come across though, so thank goodness I did that convincing! He’s the love them at first sight type.
    Dom sounds great. I’ve got a 28 year old friend who is really clucky but he’s the only one I’ve met in real life. Other than him, the only men I know who want lots of kids are the ones who never get up to them at night, rarely change a nappy etc.

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  29. Quacky not clucky

    Awww how cute,,, my gosh he’ll find a woman easily now that he’s made that announcemen!!

    My partner is def clucky he gets so excited talking about the kids we don’t even have yet that I’m pulling the reigns to make sure we enjoy our couple time now. I’m sure he would be a devoted dad so much so that I really want to enjoy “our” time first and be proposed to, married, travel OS together before they take over my life! I really really want babies too but I want to make sure a couple of boxes get checked before rushing into it…

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    • Bernard

      ‘my gosh he’ll find a woman easily now that he’s made that announcemen!! ‘

      What you say is true, but think of what it would mean for him. Women would want him just because he is willing to father children and provide for them. They don’t care what his personality is like, just his ability to be a semen donor and work horse. And women complain of being treated like a piece of meat…

      I’ll never tell a woman of my desire for children until I’ve married them. Only way to be sure they want you for you.

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  30. Adriana

    I think men AND women feel the way Dominic does – it’s interesting how he mentions it’s not so common for men to admit these feelings, however on the other side of the coin I feel like maybe women admit these feelings more readily but we cop a lot of the blame – ie, you’re too fussy, you’re too career focused, you should have settled quicker, don’t you know your fertility has a limit? Well yes actually, I am well aware, if you could just send Mr Right along I’ll get cracking on those babies ;)

    P.S. Also interestingly is how everyone is ooh’ing and ahh’ing at how sweet this is, but I feel sometimes women can be criticised for being desperate, etc etc.

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    • Quacky not clucky

      Good point!!!! So unfair!

      Like a woman boss who is cranky and single is slagged off as needing sex whereas if a man is equally cranky it’s tough and respected?!!!

      Or women getting jealous of other women are bitter and psycho but when men do it’s protective and hero like?!!!

      Double standards!!!

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      • Quacky not clucky

        I mean within the context of a relationship the jealous comment ****

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      • Adriana

        I know, it’s not very fair is it!? And like your post above saying he’ll find a woman easily now he’s made that annoucement – a) wouldn’t work the same way for women! and b) what springs to mind is Jennifer Aniston – no matter how gorgeous, rich and talented that women is, just because she has said she would like children it’s ‘poor Jen’ blah blah blah. I notice noone here has once said ‘poor Dominic’!! Drives me nuts!! (Not directed at Dominic btw, he seems lovely, but so do lots of women with these desires and they don’t get this response!)

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      • Nicky

        I agree. I hardly ever talk about wanting or having wanted more children, because as a single mother at 40 people just act like I am on a man-mission to get sperm and start telling me where I must have gone wrong to be single at 40.

        I feel just like Dom, and often go home feeling a bit sad after visiting friends with babies, even though I have a beautiful daughter and am love what I am doing in the rest of life. Neither am I desperate to hook up with anyone at all just to have another try at motherhood before the clock ticks over.

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      • Bernard

        Gender double standards swing both ways. A man and woman crying in public over something that’s equally distressing to both of them (say their cat being run over). What sort of judgment would you make about that man crying? I’ll tell you that you would think he’s emotionally sensitive and you’d lose all sexual attraction for him. The woman would be seen by men as being feminine and her vulnerability would be attractive. Hardly fair, but that’s life.

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  31. grace

    What a cute guy! I have some single girlfriends who would LOVE to meet him!

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    • edlie

      i know, i agree, and me too….have to love that kind of honesty – plus he is a great writer!

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  32. giftboxer

    what a brilliantly written piece.
    i’m off to follow dominic on twitter & find this blog….

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  33. Mel

    I’m free! :)

    He sounds like a love. Good luck Dom.

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  34. Mike

    Longest online dating ad I’ve ever read. (-:

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  35. Brad

    Have been waiting for you to ask what the men think Mia! Until now, I’ve been a bit too timid to invade on this predominantly female turf with my thoughts…

    In a nutshell, I’m rapt that you republished this blog post, because it very much speaks to my line of thinking. I’m 34 and recently ended a 7 year relationship, in which I would have been ready to have kids a couple of years earlier, but she wasn’t yet. In the end I’m super glad we didn’t, because the relationship ending was the best thing for both of us and kids would have made that harder on everyone. The bit about being overly cautious to not express too much enthusiasm for your friend’s kids for fear of appearing a paedophile, might sound crazy to some, but I know what he means entirely.

    I don’t know if I’d call myself clucky, but I love my friends’ kids and would be absolutely keen if the right partner came along.

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    • Adriana

      “I don’t know if I’d call myself clucky, but I love my friends’ kids and would be absolutely keen if the right partner came along.”

      I think that is the perfect attitude to have! That way you know you are not settling or you are not just looking for someone so you can have kids.

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  36. Permanently twenty three

    I read this in Life mag the other week and thought it was a wonderful article. I’m sick of overused stereotypes about what men ‘should’ be like, what they ‘should’ desire or how they ‘should’ behave.

    I reckon he’ll be beating off the ladies with a stick after writing that article.

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  37. free30cremorne

    Love the rise against stereotype in the article cause parenthood is an unwelcome intrusion on my 30 something female freedom – after marrying in my mid 20s to a man 10 years older with 3 children who left me at 29 for a younger version – As a 32yo home owner, I find my freedom, independence and disposable income much more appealing than the lives my 30 something female friends have or at least the life that many of them have come to whinge & whine about at our girls nights (bad husbands, losing identity blah blaah). Not all 30 something woman feel like their womb is a ticking time bomb & don’t love the constant focus on when I’m going to find a man & have a baby.

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  38. fender4eva

    I NEVER wanted to be a dad. Can you imagine TWO people like me?……………..

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    • mizanthrop

      You would only ever get 50% input Fends…

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      • fender4eva

        Funnily enough Mizanthrop, I am a Gemini, so there are already two of us ………..

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  39. Latarche

    Another one here who has a very clucky boyfriend. Such a refreshing change from my previous partner.

    The issue is that while we are both extremely clucky and would love to start trying now it just isn’t feasible for us right now. He is finishing up uni, I have a mortgage and commute to support us.

    My Dad gave me great advice and said that you are never going feel like you are 100% ready for kids financially and emotionally. You just make a decision and go for it.

    Unfortunately for us he at least needs to have a job that can cover the mortgage so I can be a stay at home Mum for a little while. He would love to be the stay at home Dad but the whole working full time and breatfeeding I can’t quite see working?

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  40. Jenni Maundrell

    My partner always wanted to be a dad. He’s had favourite names picked out since primary school. Before we met he’d given up on it ever happening – his ex didn’t want to have kids, which he had accepted and then when they broke up he just didn’t think children of his own would ever happen. He has said that as a man who wants to have children, you can discuss, ask, argue and plead, but if your partner is adamant about not getting pregnant there’s nothing you can physically do to have a child. I’d never thought of it from the man’s perspective before.

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  41. Emma

    My fiance is very clucky, he’s been like that ever since I met him when he was just 21. He told me he got bored of the partying/drinking lifestyle before he even turned 20 and he wants to start trying for kids as soon as we get married.

    Every male I know is the same, and this isn’t even guys in their 30s, but Gen Y 20 somethings want to get married and have kids. I think the idea of the playboy desperately running away from all commitments and meaningful relationships is a myth for tv. From my experience, young men (under 30) ready for marriage and kids are crawling all over the place.

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    • Anonymous

      ‘From my experience, young men (under 30) ready for marriage and kids are crawling all over the place.’

      It’s true. They just need to meet high quality ‘marriage material’ women. It’s a hard prospect in this day and age. Women’s expectations are very high versus what they can bring to the table. Wanting a girl that’s reasonably equal in looks, education and career shouldn’t be out of the question for men. Look at what your average receptionist wants in her laundry list though.

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  42. aero27holidays

    Fantastic article – just a bit off topic but it annoys me that I don’t get the Sunday Life magazine where i live. Can you believe they take it out of the paper becaue it costs too much to freight it? Love reading articles like this.

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    • Laws for Clouds

      Here’s a little secret I heard today – your local library has a press service called ‘press display’ which shows hundreds of daily newspapers the world over, exactly as they are printed. It’s free too.

      http://www.libraries.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm?u=213

      That’s for SA. I gather it’s available nationally though.

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  43. Xena

    From spending quite a bit of time on the online dating merry-go-round, I discovered – much to my surprise – that there are HEAPS of men with no children who state in their profiles that they wante children and that their prospective partner must want them as well! I had no idea so many men were craving to be fathers in the traditional family unit.

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    • imho

      men on dating websites are in one of three camps… desperate to get married (if they deem it necessary) and have babies, (30%)just after a root/some fun (50-60%) and nornal with few options for making new friends/meeting potential gf’s.

      i met so many weirdos who were desperate to meet the one, despite you having nothing in common, so they could procreate.. it was the oddest thing!!!

      Thanklfully i also did meet the person i want to spend the rest of my life with as well, so… there’s hope… it just takes a fair bit of weeding!

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  44. Amba @ Team Mummy

    Its so refreshing to read this! To break free of the sterotype and have a man say this. There is absolutely nothing wrong with wanting a baby and I wish him all the best in finding a mother to give him a child, there is nothing more rewarding.

    My husband is clucky too. Our daughter turned 1 and he was the first to say he wanted to try for another. So whilst I was the one umming and ahhing over the decision he was 100% confident in our parenting abilities and really wanted to try. So here we are with a 19 month old and 7 months pregnant. Life couldn’t be better.

    I really hope he doesn’t get clucly again (at least anytime soon) because I feel as if I ‘Might’ be done and am very content with 2 children.

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  45. simmy

    love the article, hope dominic finds the love of his life and has a beautiful family, i’m sure he’ll be a great dad :)

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  46. Jo M

    My friend says he’s always trying, as a man in his early 40s, to distinguish between women who want a baby with him, and women who just want a baby.

    I wish, for guys like Dominic, that they’d let single fathers adopt. As much as a little family would be nice, a single, stable guy who would totally dote on the baby and really wants it, despite being on his own, is far from worst-case-scenario for children who really need a home.

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  47. Happymum

    My husband in the cluckiest bloke I have ever seen. He even likes commenting on cute random kids we see around. He was always clucky and he was so proud of his neice when I first met him. I have never seen a man so clucky and enraptured by little kids. I met him when I was 18 and he was 26. I had no desire for kids at that stage, but I knew that he would be a loving father when we did have them. He was always talking about us having kids (before we got engaged). 8 months after we married I decided to start trying and when I couldn’t fall pregnant easily I was so sad that he may not get the chance to become a father. Fast forward 11 year and we have 3 boys and he could not be a more loving, caring, helpful dad to them. We spend our days talking about how cute they are when they are in bed. We talk about how lucky we are to have them everyday and he could have 10, but it’s the money and the time that stops us from having more so we will pull up now.

    I hope that Dominic gets his wish for chilren soon as he sounds like he would be a wonderful father.

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  48. Missamoo

    It’s funny i recently met a man who o[enly admitted he wanted 4 kids we had been dating for about 2 weeks. I almost dropped to the floor in thanks ha not thati’m planning to have them for him he is a foriegner who has since gone home. But i was so surprised to have a man simply admit he wants kids every other guy i have met until now will turn white if you even mention them and i had one friend who i had a huge argument with over it. He said that if i wanted to find a man i should consider a compromise and not have any kids to keep said man about. Nice to see in print and in my life that there are other options for a girl who is seriously running out of time!

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  49. Sarah

    Brilliant article.
    My boyfriend of 3 yrs is very clucky! We both are. I love that he is open about it and when we are married, we wont waste anytime popping out the little chickens (pun intended).

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  50. Zor

    oh god yes my high school boyfriend was SO excited to get married and have 4 babies as soon as we left school…sooOooo I dumped him. He is now a midwife & special case infant nurse (looks after prem babies and stuff no idea what that is called) and married with 2 babies and another coming… crazy clucky!

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