by DEVON CORNEAL
I don’t think anyone sets out to be rude or judgmental, but I’ve been surprised at what well-meaning and generally thoughtful people say to mothers who aren’t staying home full-time with their children.
There’s a subtle hostility or judgment that comes through in some of these statements that makes me wish that everyone would, every so often, think before they speak.
Before anyone freaks out, I completely and totally support stay-at-home mums. They work. They work hard. Their choices are valid and awesome and please stop glaring at me. There are days I envy them more than you know.
1. Can’t you afford to stay home?
Let’s assume for a minute that I can’t. Let’s imagine I work to help pay the mortgage and buy groceries and send our kids to college. Where does this conversation go now? Awkward, right? Next thing you know, I’m going to be asking you how much your husband earns so you can stay home. Let’s agree not to go there.
Then let’s say I can afford to stay home. The question assumes the reason I work is entirely financial. Which is part of it, to be sure. If I could make money watching bad reality TV and doing yoga all day, I would. Since I can’t, I work at a more traditional job — but it’s not all about the money. I value my education and the years I’ve devoted to my career. I think it is good for our boys to see me working outside our home so they know that a woman isn’t confined to being a wife and a mother.
I also know that some day our kids will be off at college or started on careers of their own and I want to keep a foot in the working world so when that time comes, I’m not staring at a big gap in my resume that makes it harder for me to get a job. I also like the equality that exists in my marriage because both my husband and I put money in the bank. That’s just me. But this particular question devalues all of those considerations and, in turn, my choices. Please don’t do that.
2. I’d give anything to get away from my kids for an entire day.
If you really mean it, I’m happy to help you polish your resume. You can be away from your kids all day, every day! Of course, along with that “freedom” you’ll feel guilty about being away from them and will wonder if they’re ok because they’re home with a babysitter or in day care. Going to work every morning and waving to my kid from the upstairs bathroom window isn’t a spa day.
It’s sort of like doing a triathalon. You start each day with a morning plunge into icy water, getting everyone to school/work then do an an eight-hour bike ride, all topped off with a half-marathon of dinner, homework, baths and bedtime.
During your bike ride not only will you be expected to pedal hard, you’ll also have to take phone calls from the school, the babysitter, and the doctor, respond to birthday party invitations, take a quick side trip to grab supplies for an art project, order groceries and a new pair of jeans and remember to return library books because it all needs to get done RIGHT NOW. If you’re lucky, there’s some wine left over in the fridge.
3. I’d miss my child too much to be away from him all day.
I know. I completely understand. You get over it. Because you have to.
4. The problem with this country today is that not enough mums are home raising their children.
I know! I couldn’t agree more! Oh, wait. You’re not advocating for paid parental leave, flexible work schedules or telecommuting, are you? You’re not picketing in support for working parents (because, let’s face it, some dads would like to be able to spend more time with their kids too) so they can make good choices for their families, right?
You just want more mums to stay home. It’s possible those families would be better off living under a cloud of financial or psychological stress to adhere to a traditional view of families, but I’m not buying it. If I see one more comment about how dual-earner families are undermining the very fabric of society I will lose my mind.
Last I checked, no one in my family had shot anyone, stolen anything, cheated on a test, run a red light, or even so much as littered. Of course, I’ve been working all morning, so things may have changed since breakfast.

We are grateful and proud to have wonderful people who help us – from family to friends to teachers and babysitters. But make no mistake, my husband and I are raising our kids.
5. Why did you have kids only to let someone else raise them?
People have said this to me. People have said this to my friends. It’s a good thing that I didn’t have the power to incinerate them with my laser beam eyes. If I hear it again, I’ll refer you to item no. 1 for the reasons I might work outside of my home. And then I’ll just ask you to be a TAD LESS JUDGMENTAL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I had Little Dude because every fiber of my being wanted to be a mother and we felt like our family was incomplete without another person in it. Loving and raising a child is not incompatible with having support to do that. We are grateful and proud to have wonderful people who help us – from family to friends to teachers and babysitters. But make no mistake, my husband and I are raising our kids. We aren’t home every day, but we are a presence in our kids’ lives at every moment.
6. I don’t know how you do it. It must be so hard.
It is. I don’t know how I do it. But I don’t think that’s because I work, I think it’s because parenting is hard whether you stay at home or go off to the office. I don’t know how any of us do it. It’s glorious and rewarding and full of love and it is the hardest thing I’ve ever done. Balancing kids with anything else, whether a paying job or running a household or finding time to watch Honey Boo Boo, is nearly impossible.
7. You must be so organized to be able to balance everything.
I have a love/hate reaction to this statement. At first, I bask in the affirmation. I believe I am organized. Then I remember — I am one set of lost keys away from a meltdown. I have mismatched socks, my kid went to school with jelly on his face and I haven’t exercised in a week. I have piles of books and clothes and god knows what else in my bedroom. I forgot a conference call yesterday and lost the planetarium permission slip. I let something slide every day. There is no balance. Only carefully controlled chaos. Pretty much like everyone else’s life.
8. There’s always time to work later, these early years are so precious.
All the years are precious. And why don’t people say this to fathers?
9. You look exhausted.
Gee! Thanks! Wanna give me a day at the spa? And then watch my kid for me so I can relax? No? Then let’s just pretend we can’t see the bags under my eyes.
10. At least you treasure every minute you have with your son.
Well, maybe not all of them. Because sometimes Little Dude is a monster and I get home at the witching hour, just in time to force him to eat his carrots, make him brush his teeth and go to bed. Which, as any parent will tell you, is just the most relaxing time of day. This is why I keep a chilled bottle of wine in the fridge. Despite that, of course, I do treasure my time with my kids, but I have a hard time believing that would be different if I were home more.
11. Don’t you worry you’re missing out?
Every day. But then my son runs into my arms when I pick him up from school and climbs into my bed in the morning to tell me I’m the “best mummy ever,” and I know it’s going to be ok.







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286 Comments so far
Seriously.. What other species outsources their young so readily… Look after your kids like any other mother. If you have time to polish my resume (i work weekend nights and my husband looks after our kids.. NO DAYCARE) you have time to look after your kids and know what the hell is going on with them.
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Cut the judgement … If you throw rocks at others then I’m sure something could be said about the lack of family bonding time your weekends hold
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A colleague of mine recently chose to leave her job and stay home to watch her young children. When she made the announcement at work, she was patronized for “making the right decision” by my colleagues – directly in front of me and other working mothers. My colleagues (both men and women) did not intend to offend me, but I was offended by the entire situation. It should be a personal decision based on numerous factors and no one should be patronized (especially in front of others) for choosing to work or stay home.
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Leonie…. Brilliantly said! Thank you. Anything I was trying to concoct was just petty. You said it perfectly. And who is honey boo boo?
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@Mike. You obviously haven’t considered SAHM who payed taxes BEFORE having children and also, will pay tax AGAIN, after returning to the workforce when their children are at school?
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Very interesting. At last this has been named and at last in defence of mothers who work. My observation, after being around this for the twenty or so years, is that it’s only the sahms or whatever they call themselves, who indulge in the nastiness of standing other women up about how they choose to live their lives. NEVER have I witnessed it the other way around. For those of who are actually engaging in work ie things other than sitting around parks judging other people’s parenting, it’s just not an issue. We do what we do. My experience is that it’s all about projection, and justification of their choice. And they think it should be talked about. So, while you’re interfering in the running of schools, complaining about how your child has been bullied, insisting on being in your child’s classroom to ‘help with reading’ and getting your child’s giftedness assessed, thank those of us who are contributing to the nation’s productivity, creating role models for male and female children by working and creating healthy, resilient, independent children who are able to deal in the real world. And no, I don’t think we should all thank you for your community work. The most effective community organisations I’ve been involved in have been run by people who work, because the footy club, or the child care centre, or the P and C, or the school tuck shop is not the centre of their world. Their work is to enhance community, not to live through it.
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But you’ve never witnessed it the other way around, huh?
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I agree that this is another one of those “what not to say” articles, but because I can relate to it, I enjoyed reading it
I’m actually a SAHM at the moment, because I’m on mat leave with no. 3, but I guess I identify more strongly with mums in paid employment because that’s my default setting. I only work part-time though…does that make a difference?
I have to say, I love the balance. There is more to juggle when working at the office, but I think you go through a process of refining and condensing…life is, well, not busier exactly, because we’re all busy, but the extraneous crap is the first to go, leaving my life with my family feeling richer and more colourful. Working enhances other aspects of myself, and throws life with my kids into sharp relief, so that I appreciate them more.
My husband and I work in the same sector, on similar subject matter, with lots of the same people, and for the public good, so in addition to what we derive from our jobs as individuals, it also gives us plenty of stimulating conversation-fodder. So it enhances the grown-up relationship in our family.
The kids are at daycare 3 days a week, a total of 24 hours…plus 10 min in the car each way. I don’t see this as outsourcing, but rather an incredibly valuable adjunct to their social, emotional and intellectual development, given that we have no family nearby to fulfil this role. It’s our “village”.
Back to the condensing thing…I think the opposite can happen when their are gaps to fill. Yes, we’re all busy. And I don’t point the finger at anyone here, but I do know a lot of SAHMs via facebook who spend a huge amount of time on facebook (and look at me, commenting on a forum in the middle of the afternoon
) into the small hours of the morning, talking about how much TV they’ve been watching (almost always vampire-centred), yet also stressing about only have a few hours left to use a particular coupon or online offer…I get the sense sometimes that our activities expand to fill the available space.
What I’m trying to say is that I don’t think working mothers spend less time with their children, they just learn to prioritise differently, and squeeze the most out of the time available. Quality has to be up there with quantity, right?
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I’m so tired of comments that assume that this is a debate about SAHM or working mum. None of the mums I know are purely one or the other. Most have stayed at home, worked part time, full time on and off. This idea that working mums are women who have a child one day then put it in child care the next while they work 9-5 is as rare as the SAHM living off of welfare and neglecting their kids. Maybe when we start acknowledging this and the contributions that we all make we will start being a bit kinder and watching what we say to each other. Working mums contribute by showing our girls that having a job and financial independence is important, we’ve helped achieve maternity leave, breast feeding at work arrangements, right to return to work after leave, careers leave etc. none of which would have been even considered if mums weren’t out there in the work force. Because I work my husband can work less and spend more time with his kids. I don’t know any SAHM who simply stay at home. They are fundraising for schools and kindys, organising playgroups, supporting other mums, helping with reading programmes, school canteens, libraries etc. all of these are important community services and without them we’d all be worse off. So maybe before we open our mouths, or put nasty messages on posts like this we should stop and think about the wonderful variety of families out there, that the idea in our heads may just be a stereotype and think about the likely contribution that person is making. What a boring world, turning out cookie cutter people if we all made the same choices.
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As a childless person, I find these articles interesting.
My experience with my mum being a SAHM has actually been pretty negative. This is MY situation, I am not generalising.
My mother was (is, I guess) a SAHM, has never worked really and is 100% financially dependent on my father. I think she thinks I just work until boyf puts a ring on it, and I’ll start popping out kids yet my brother (the one who went to uni etc) is the golden child. I saw my mother with no friends, no social life for pretty much my whole childhood. She invested EVERYTHING in us kids. It was only when my brother and I got to our late teens and moved out of home etc she actually got a life.
Having said that, at THIS stage in my life I think if/when I have kids I would like to work still because I have learnt I need balance, but obviously until I get to that point I can’t make that call. I think though, boyf and I have a pretty great life (well, our relationship etc is great BUT we like spending our money on materialistic things, we have nice cars and the newest gadgets etc) and I don’t know if I would be prepared to give that all up to be a SAHM on a budget.
This article is definitely food for thought.
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Why does judgement have to be lurking around every corner. As women, why are we so hard on each other? Working Mum Stay at home Mum what does it matter. We should be there to support each other no matter what decisions we make. It’s hard enough living up to ridiculous unrealistic expectations from bosses and in laws, let alone having to deal with “well meaning” comments from our own kind.
Just support each other girls, goodness knows that’s what I need….
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Arrgghh … I hate arguments about this on both sides of the SAHM and working mum debate. I think you can easily put together as long that relate to SAHMs. These days you are damned if you do and damned if you don’t. I just wish that people would realise that 99% parents are doing what they think is right for their families in their circumstances and be supportive rather than judgemental or use criticism as a means of validating their own life choices.
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Thank you thank you thank you! Ever since moving from a major capital city to a regional mining town I have been judged, ridiculed, criticised, ostracised and worst of all any imperfection in my child’s behaviour has been blamed on my not being a stay at home mum. As it appears, all my friends in the city are mums with a profession; all the mums here are stay at home mums. I have had to constantly justify why I am working. Yes I love my children, they are the loves of my life. I love playing with Miss 11 months and Master 4. We also bake, do craft, go on play dates etc. Being away from them 3 days a week whilst at work is a choice I have made. I love me too and after 10 years at University can finally see my investment pay off. I work reduced hours too so am home by 4. I also rarely work late or on weekends. Any additional work is done at night when the little people are in bed. When I was home for those lovely 7 months after having #2 I got a taste of SAHM life here in the regional city and it is most certainly not for me.
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11 things not to say to a stay at home mum (it goes both ways)
I don’t think anyone sets out to be rude or judgmental, but I’ve been surprised at what well-meaning and generally thoughtful people say to mothers who are staying at home full time with their children.
There’s a subtle hostility or judgment that comes through in some of these statements that makes me wish that everyone would, every so often, think before they speak.
Before anyone freaks out, I completely and totally support working mums. They work. They work hard. Their choices are valid and awesome and please stop glaring at me. There are days I envy them more than you know.
1. How can you afford to stay home?
Let’s assume for a minute that I can’t. Let’s imagine that I choose to go without a lot including my sanity. Where does this conversation go now? Awkward, right? Next thing you know, I’m going to be asking you how little your husband earns so that you have to go to work. Let’s agree not to go there.
Then let’s say I can afford to stay home. The question assumes the reason I stay home is entirely selfish. Which is part of it, to be sure. I love watching the little things even though they can get swallowed up by the daily routine at times, I do. Because I can, I work at a more traditional job — but it’s not all about the loss of income. I still value my education and the years I’ve devoted to my career. I think it’s good for our (oh please, let’s include our daughters) children to see me working inside our home so they know that a woman (dare I say Mother) has a choice. I thought we were all about choices these days.
I also know that some day our kids will be off at college or started on careers of their own and I want to know that when that time comes I have made the right choice for our family. I also like the equality that exists in our marriage because both my husband and I put an equal amount of effort into raising our beautiful family no matter who is paid more monetarily. That’s just me. But this particular question devalues all of those considerations and, in turn, my choices. Please don’t do that.
2. I’d give anything to be at home with my kids for an entire day.
If you really mean it, I’m happy to help you polish your budget. You can be at home with your kids all day, every day! Of course, along with that “freedom” you’ll feel guilty about staring at a big gap in your resume that makes it harder for you to get a job. Staying at home with your toddler while everyone else goes out to school and work isn’t a spa day.
It’s sort of like doing a triathalon. You start each day with a morning plunge into icy water, getting everyone to school/work then do an an eight-hour bike ride, all topped off with a half-marathon of dinner, homework, baths and bedtime. Except in the middle it’s like groundhog day.
During your bike ride not only will you be expected to pedal hard, you’ll also have to take phone calls from the school, spend hours helping at the school, and the doctor, respond to birthday party invitations, take a quick side trip to grab supplies for an art project, order groceries and a new pair of jeans and remember to return library books, clean up poo that’s been tread through the house….because it all needs to get done RIGHT NOW. If you’re lucky, there’s some wine left over in the fridge…you’re gonna need it!
3. I don’t have the patience to stay at home with my child all day.
I know. I completely understand. You get over it. Because you choose to.
4. The problem with this country today is that not enough mums are showing their kids that they can have it all.
I know! I couldn’t agree more! Oh, wait. You’re not advocating for paid parental leave, flexible work schedules or telecommuting, are you? You’re not picketing in support for stay-at-home parents (because, let’s face it, some dads would like to be able to spend more time with their kids too) so they can make good choices for their families, right?
You just want more mums to be working like you. It’s possible those families would be better off living under a cloud of depression or psychological stress to adhere to this 90′s view of families, but I’m not buying it. If I see one more comment about how we can have it all I’ll lose it. We’re feminists…we’re smarter than that!
Last I checked, no-one in my family had shot anyone, stolen anything, cheated on a test, run a red light, or even so much as littered. Of course, I’ve been up to my armpits in vomit and dishes all morning, so things may have changed since breakfast.
5. Why did you have kids only to have them put such a dent in your resume?
People have said this to me. People have said this to my friends. It’s a good thing that I didn’t have the power to incinerate them with my laser beam eyes. I’ll just ask you to be a TAD LESS JUDGMENTAL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I had my children because every fibre of my being wanted to be a mother and we felt like our family was incomplete without a few little people in it. Loving and raising a child is not incompatible with having support to do that. We are grateful and proud to have wonderful people who help us – from family to friends to teachers and grandparents. But make no mistake, my husband and I are raising our kids, we are a presence in our kids’ lives at every moment.
6. I don’t know how you do it. It must be so hard.
It is. I don’t know how I do it. But I don’t think that’s because I stay at home, I think it’s because parenting is hard whether you stay at home or go off to the office. I don’t know how any of us do it. It’s glorious and rewarding and full of love and it is the hardest thing I’ve ever done. Balancing kids with anything else, whether a paying job or running a household or finding time to watch Honey Boo Boo (who?), is nearly impossible. Finally a faint voice of reason….maybe it’s hard whichever you choose…you think?
7. You must have so much time to organise everything.
I have a hate/hate reaction to this statement. I resent the inference that I have all day to organise with three kids under 7. I believe I am organised. Then I remember — I am one set of lost keys away from a meltdown. I have mismatched socks, my kid went to school with jelly on his face and I haven’t exercised in a week. I have piles of books and clothes and god knows what else in my bedroom. I forgot a parent/teacher conference yesterday and lost the planetarium permission slip. I let something slide every day. There is no balance. Only carefully controlled chaos. Pretty much like everyone else’s life.
8. There’s always time to work later, these early years are so precious.
All the years are precious. And why don’t people say this to fathers?
9. You look exhausted.
Gee! Thanks! Wanna give me a day at the spa? And then watch my kid for me so I can relax? No? Then let’s just pretend we can’t see the bags under my eyes.
10. At least you treasure every minute you have with your children.
Well, maybe not all of them. Because sometimes they are little monsters and I’ve been home with them all day when the witching hour hits, just in time to force them to eat their carrots, make them brush their teeth and go to bed. Which, as any parent will tell you, is just the most relaxing time of day. This is why I keep a chilled bottle of wine in the fridge. Despite that, of course, I do treasure my time with my kids, but I have a hard time believing that would be different if I were working more.
11. Don’t you worry you’re missing out?
Every day. But then my kids run into my arms when I pick them up from school and climb into my bed in the morning to tell me I’m the “best mummy ever,” and I know it’s going to be ok.
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Well said.
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BRILLIANT. Great response!
It’s damn hard either way.
Now let’s stop the judgement.
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Phew! Thank you for taking the time to reflect the other side. Now, can everybody be happy with their own decision and butt out of everyone elses!
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Thanks Leonie, some sense! Didn’t the women of the 90′s teach us that having it all sucks? I feel like if your so attached to your career then maybe don’t drag kids into that.
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11 things not to say to a stay at home mum (it goes both ways)
I don’t think anyone sets out to be rude or judgmental, but I’ve been surprised at what well-meaning and generally thoughtful people say to mothers who are staying at home full time with their children.
There’s a subtle hostility or judgment that comes through in some of these statements that makes me wish that everyone would, every so often, think before they speak.
Before anyone freaks out, I completely and totally support working mums. They work. They work hard. Their choices are valid and awesome and please stop glaring at me. There are days I envy them more than you know.
1. How can you afford to stay home?
Let’s assume for a minute that I can’t. Let’s imagine that I choose to go without a lot including my sanity. Where does this conversation go now? Awkward, right? Next thing you know, I’m going to be asking you how little your husband earns so that you have to go to work. Let’s agree not to go there.
Then let’s say I can afford to stay home. The question assumes the reason I stay home is entirely selfish. Which is part of it, to be sure. I love watching the little things even though they can get swallowed up by the daily routine at times, I do. Because I can, I work at a more traditional job — but it’s not all about the loss of income. I still value my education and the years I’ve devoted to my career. I think it’s good for our (oh please, let’s include our daughters) children to see me working inside our home so they know that a woman (dare I say Mother) has a choice. I thought we were all about choices these days.
I also know that some day our kids will be off at college or started on careers of their own and I want to know that when that time comes I have made the right choice for our family. I also like the equality that exists in our marriage because both my husband and I put an equal amount of effort into raising our beautiful family no matter who is paid more monetarily. That’s just me. But this particular question devalues all of those considerations and, in turn, my choices. Please don’t do that.
2. I’d give anything to be at home with my kids for an entire day.
If you really mean it, I’m happy to help you polish your budget. You can be at home with your kids all day, every day! Of course, along with that “freedom” you’ll feel guilty about staring at a big gap in your resume that makes it harder for you to get a job. Staying at home with your toddler while everyone else goes out to school and work isn’t a spa day.
It’s sort of like doing a triathalon. You start each day with a morning plunge into icy water, getting everyone to school/work then do an an eight-hour bike ride, all topped off with a half-marathon of dinner, homework, baths and bedtime. Except in the middle it’s like groundhog day.
During your bike ride not only will you be expected to pedal hard, you’ll also have to take phone calls from the school, spend hours helping at the school, and the doctor, respond to birthday party invitations, take a quick side trip to grab supplies for an art project, order groceries and a new pair of jeans and remember to return library books, clean up poo that’s been tread through the house….because it all needs to get done RIGHT NOW. If you’re lucky, there’s some wine left over in the fridge…you’re gonna need it!
3. I don’t have the patience to stay at home with my child all day.
I know. I completely understand. You get over it. Because you choose to.
4. The problem with this country today is that not enough mums are showing their kids that they can have it all.
I know! I couldn’t agree more! Oh, wait. You’re not advocating for paid parental leave, flexible work schedules or telecommuting, are you? You’re not picketing in support for stay-at-home parents (because, let’s face it, some dads would like to be able to spend more time with their kids too) so they can make good choices for their families, right?
You just want more mums to be working like you. It’s possible those families would be better off living under a cloud of depression or psychological stress to adhere to this 90′s view of families, but I’m not buying it. If I see one more comment about how we can have it all I’ll lose it. We’re feminists…we’re smarter than that!
Last I checked, no-one in my family had shot anyone, stolen anything, cheated on a test, run a red light, or even so much as littered. Of course, I’ve been up to my armpits in vomit and dishes all morning, so things may have changed since breakfast.
5. Why did you have kids only to have them put such a dent in your resume?
People have said this to me. People have said this to my friends. It’s a good thing that I didn’t have the power to incinerate them with my laser beam eyes. I’ll just ask you to be a TAD LESS JUDGMENTAL THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I had my children because every fibre of my being wanted to be a mother and we felt like our family was incomplete without a few little people in it. Loving and raising a child is not incompatible with having support to do that. We are grateful and proud to have wonderful people who help us – from family to friends to teachers and grandparents. But make no mistake, my husband and I are raising our kids, we are a presence in our kids’ lives at every moment.
6. I don’t know how you do it. It must be so hard.
It is. I don’t know how I do it. But I don’t think that’s because I stay at home, I think it’s because parenting is hard whether you stay at home or go off to the office. I don’t know how any of us do it. It’s glorious and rewarding and full of love and it is the hardest thing I’ve ever done. Balancing kids with anything else, whether a paying job or running a household or finding time to watch Honey Boo Boo (who?), is nearly impossible. Finally a faint voice of reason….maybe it’s hard whichever you choose…you think?
7. You must have so much time to organise everything.
I have a hate/hate reaction to this statement. I resent the inference that I have all day to organise with three kids under 7. I believe I am organised. Then I remember — I am one set of lost keys away from a meltdown. I have mismatched socks, my kid went to school with jelly on his face and I haven’t exercised in a week. I have piles of books and clothes and god knows what else in my bedroom. I forgot a parent/teacher conference yesterday and lost the planetarium permission slip. I let something slide every day. There is no balance. Only carefully controlled chaos. Pretty much like everyone else’s life.
8. There’s always time to work later, these early years are so precious.
All the years are precious. And why don’t people say this to fathers?
9. You look exhausted.
Gee! Thanks! Wanna give me a day at the spa? And then watch my kid for me so I can relax? No? Then let’s just pretend we can’t see the bags under my eyes.
10. At least you treasure every minute you have with your children
Well, maybe not all of them. Because sometimes they are little monsters and I’ve been home with them all day when the witching hour hits, just in time to force them to eat their carrots, make them brush their teeth and go to bed. Which, as any parent will tell you, is just the most relaxing time of day. This is why I keep a chilled bottle of wine in the fridge. Despite that, of course, I do treasure my time with my kids, but I have a hard time believing that would be different if I were working more.
11. Don’t you worry you’re missing out? Every day. But then my kids run into my arms when I pick them up from school and climb into my bed in the morning to tell me I’m the “best mummy ever,” and I know it’s going to be ok.
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I’m a full time working single mum but that doesn’t define me.
I’m happy, healthy and thankful for everything I have.
At the end if the day, my son is loved and he knows he is loved.
I am a mother. I can not measure whether I am better or worse than anyone else because no one else has mothered my son. In his eyes I am the best mummy and in my eyes I agree.
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I think we would all be a lot happier if we all thought a little bit first before we opened our mouths!
I would never tell a working mum why I choose not to work, because my comments may unintentionally make her feel bad. I just say I stay home and that works for us. Yet I know many working mums who tell me they found it boring at home all day and missed the stimulation of work. Which I cant help but take as a dig and that perhaps they think I’m not as smart or in need of stimulation.
A simple comment these days can cause great offence, often unintentionally.
Own your choice and get on with it. But dont justify it, because thats when the trouble starts
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My Mum was a SAHM, and we were very poor. I don’t remember so much ‘doing without’ but I do remember the tension between my mother and father, and their general unhappiness, due to finances. It might have been better if she had gone to work, though maybe not. 30 years on, they are still married, but all the love is gone, and there is still so much bitterness. The point is, lack of finances can place an enormous strain on a relationship, which effects the whole family.
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I think the key is to strike a good balance.
My mum went back to work fulltime when I was about 4. And then stopped when she retired when I was in my 20′s. She was burnt out and needed a break.
Our home life when I was a kid wasnt fabulously happy. We had 2 fulltime professional incomes so we had nice stuff, but my parents were both always stressed and tired and cranky. And all we really wanted was for our mum to pick us up from school and be home with us in the holidays so we could just hang around the house like our friends.
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Nothing like mother-guilt, is there?
I felt guilty when I went back to work after child number 1.
I feel guilty now being full time at home with child number 2.
I felt guilty using dispoable nappies.
I felt guilty when I stopped breast feeding.
I feel guilty when I give my kids takeaway for dinner.
I feel guilty when…
The list is endless. I never felt so guilty (or judged) until I became a parent. Tell you what, though: I might feel guilty but I don’t feel regret. Every decision I make, I stand behind the reason for making it and I live with the consequences – good or bad. My goal is always just to make the best decision I can. And I reckon that’s the same for most of us here.
Still feel guilty though
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Let it go!!!!
If you are really doing something terrible let the guilt guide you in a new direction. But you’re not! You are doing your best and life is meant to be enjoyed, its not an endurance test!
Let it go.
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The vitriol articles like this inspires can be quite amazing sometimes. It’s almost like ACA online.
Can we just all admit that everyone is doing the best we can and stop with all the judgement?
Working mums; if someone elects to be a SAHM, that’s a valid choice, career, lifestyle and otherwise and I do get why they may put their child into formal child care occasionally. Not everyone has a great support system.
SAHMs; if someone needs to go to work, they may actually need to because of financial decisions made years ago. If you feel put upon by working mothers, learn how to politely say no. Putting babies into childcare isn’t abandoning them, or letting others raise them.
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I am the product of ace
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I get that this is a sensitive topic, especially for those who have had to go back to work for purely financial reasons but I can only talk from my own experience.
My mum went back to work when I was 4 months old because money was tight so my grandmother became my substitute mother. My mum wasn’t there when I did a lot of my “firsts” and I know that she regrets it to this day. My first word was “nanna” and I know that my mum still feels sad about this too. Don’t get me wrong, I had a wonderful childhood – it’s not as though I sat in the corner and mourned the fact my mum and dad weren’t there but sometimes I sit back now and think how much nicer it might have been if mum (and dad for that matter) had been around more. I don’t begrudge the fact that both parents had to work so hard because I know they were doing so to make sure we had what they never did and I’ll always appreciate their sacrifices.
That all said, I have always said that when I’m a mum, I’ll be staying home with my kids until they go to school so I don’t miss out on the things and hae the regrets that my mum did with me but the reality is looking more and more like I will have to go back to work when we have kids (by our calculations, probably when the baby is one year old).
It’s not a black and white issue and it saddens me when people treat it as though it is.
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My daughter’s first word was “apple”. I don’t feel any regret or remorse.
What if school started earlier here? My friend’s son and his mates have been in formal, full time school (uniforms and all) since 3, because that’s when you start in the Emirates. I wonder what attitudes would be if that were the case here.
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Kris2040… That is mindblowing … Well done Kdot.
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My daughters first word was ‘shoes’. I stayed at home!
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Our daughters first word was “dadda” My husband worked long hours and i would talk to her about “dadda” coming home. I always thought their first words were the ones they heard the most and that was why most babies don’t say mum first.
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My daughters first words were dada… BUt apple is cute
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Oh my babies first word were daddy.. I love how they discover his name . They must think highly of daddy. Love that. But apple is sweet.
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I have never thought to define myself or any of my friends as either working mums or stay at home mums. I’m just getting on with life.
Sometimes people say insensitive things or ask dumb questions but if we all went around watching every conversation so carefully to be sure not to offend anyone, we might never talk to each other.
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Like x 100.
My personal feeling is that most people are just sticky beaks or making conversation. I think it a great shame many of us can take things so personally sometimes!
I know for myself, I’m more likely to bristle when I am not 100% comfortable with my circumstances / choices.
It’d be nice if we at least TRIED to own our feelings instead of blaming random commenters though.
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To be honest without offending I think plenty of sahm can get slightly envious of us working mothers as typically we have more money therefore we can splurge often on ourselves. We can afford that impulse purchase, that frequent hair appointment and that night out with the girls. This can lead to resentment amongst the sahm so yes I can understand why they can ark up and feel the need to put us down. At the end of the day it is your choice. I choose to work full Time to enjoy the trappings of a great lifestyle , i value a quality lifestyle. I like sass & bide. I don’t feel guilty because I earnt it.
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dee dee, I dont think thats the case. Maybe they just see kids sad little face at school and think that the poor little thing could beneft from their mum being around a bit more.
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… but do you have the time?
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I’ve worked and been at home and scheduling a massage for me anytime was tricky.
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I too get my haircut frequently, get that impulse purchase and go out with the girls. Why because I too WORK! I am a SAHM and as my hubby quite rightly points out I would be on a bloody huge income when you add together all the things I do for my family and my community!
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Soooo true. The only comment I get regularly is no. 6, although I think I feel no. 11 in my soul so often. And for Mums whose children are going to childcare or school for the first time, I tell them that it is that moment that makes it all worthwhile.
What I don’t get is SAHMs who are always busy and don’t have time to do anything. Seriously? I recall being a SAHM for the first 14 months of my daughter’s life and then worked part-time (2 days a week) for the next 2.5 years (when her brother was born). I had heaps of time to keep the house clean plus I was studying part-time at uni. And believe me, I was not super organised (usually assignments were sent last-minute just like everyone else).
I think the difference is when you have to prioritise your time and make everything count, you don’t sweat the small stuff as much. My kids don’t take home baked goods to school for lunch and they too go to school with food on their face….or clothes…or unbrushed hair. I guess I figure that in 13 years time when they are finished school and all grown up, the little things really won’t matter.
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I am a working mum and a stay at home mum. So is hubbie. We have a beautiful nanny 2 days a week who my boys love. She is like an aunt to them, as there are no others nearby. We have a lovely NFP childcare and coummunity kindy the other days. Plus school. And a bit of home time. It is a jigsaw but it works and provides the boys, and us, with lots of different experiences. Who cares what anyone else does? You and your family need to create your own reality. There is no one right way. There is only love and family.
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That article was a tad defensive. Does any one really care how other people parent. the endless yoga Ns day time telly comments were a bit demeaning.
Boths ways or parenting have pros and cons- We all just muddle through. in my experience your a calmer nicer parent when your not busy and the kids are the centre of your life. Unfortunately To live in the town we do( where my husbands family have been for 110 years). it is not ideal but I like the money. It makes life less stressful . I do have flexibility though so I have all the school holidays off so it is kind of best of both worlds.
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I don’t understand why some woman have children to begin with if they are just going to let some 17 yr old high school drop out at the local day care farm raise the baby. A child is FOREVER not just for the 12 months that maternity leave allows you. Who is teaching family values and morals? Where are you priorities a faceless corporation or the living being you have just bought into the world that YOU are responsible for…
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Judgement much? Don’t fall off that high horse.
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I have worked as an EC at a centre for 15 years and am yet to see any 17yr olds working as an Educator. The minimum qualifications to work at our centre as a casual is Cert 3 and 18yrs old. Each one of our staff care deeply for all the children in our care and I still keep in contact with families that attended my centre 15 years ago. Comment like yours are quiet offensive to all the hard working dedicated educators out there. Also you will find that most children actually love going to care and socialising with there peers.
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I loved your comment, what a lovely perspective. You sound like a very well adjusted, intelligent young woman…your mother must be very proud. Great example of a child brought up by a ‘working’ mum and excellent insight into the reasons for your Mum’s choice, both to work outside the home and as a SAHM. Well said
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Whether you care to admit it or not, having children and then finding/paying someone else to look after/raise them is selfish on the parents part.
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You also forgot to count the hours they sleep
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I am a mum of two, 2 1/2 and 9months, and it probably wasn’t until my second baby was born did I feel I had become the mum I always thought I would be. As with so many first time mums I struggled to find the inner confidence that I was raising my children the ‘right way’ . During this time I was at home and I went back to work and I would take so many small comments in a conversation to heart and find offense with others when I felt others judging my parenting. By the time my second daughter came along I knew that I was a great mum and my husband a great dad regardless of the life choices we make for our family. I know that if I choose to stay at home, or go back to work, that my children are loved, feel secure in that love, have a strong sense of belonging in this world and that they will continue to feel that way regardless of whether I look after them, my husband or who ever I choose to to look after my precious children. The comments that people make no longer have any effect upon me, they are just words and I have since realized that it was my sensitivity that made such passing comments hurt me. Without doubt navigating the minefield of diplomacy that exists around parenting is difficult for anyone to attempt!
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What not to say to a Mamamia reader…. “Here’s another article about what you shouldn’t say to cancer patients/working mums/SAHMs/women struggling with fertility/the milkman etc”
Stop. Please!
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This is all very well but society should be concerned about its children and the social trends occurring that might see children as a less valuable commodity than they once were. But before I begin, I want to say this is just my opinion. I know how tetchy you working Mums can be!
I think the underlying fear held by society in relation to the stay-at-home-or- not scenario is that there is concern that the attainment of material things and individual status has become more attractive to us than spending time with a baby. There are some couples who both need to work because they literally could not afford a roof over their heads if they didn’t but there are plenty who work to pay big mortgages on big houses and to keep having those overseas holidays etc. There are also loads of Mums who use child care who don’t work but just want free time.
What I think people really question is how we can now justify that big mortgage and/or lovely lifestyle when it means missing our children’s baby years. Only working parents could think that all children’s years are precious…the baby years are where the bonds form, where your child’s life and personality is formed. I just can’t state enough how important those early years were for me and my children, in being together all the time. You can’t pay people to love your children like you do and therefore working parents’ children are only feeling that love part-time. And why would you want to miss it anyway??
Having said that, I am now endeavouring to return to the workforce with the aforementioned huge gap in my CV and finding it dishearteningly difficult, in having to virtually start all over again. There really has to be a better spreading out of parental responsibility between mother and father so that it isn’t always the mother who has a 7+ year gap to overcome. This will only happen when employers start to arrange their workplaces more flexibly to see men as stay-at-home parents – we need to rethink the working world completely.
For now I will keep plugging away searching ‘Seek’ every day. One thing is certain though, I will never regret being there in my kids’ early years because I think they would have been different people if I wasn’t. The message they would have received is ‘Mummy has somewhere more important to be than with me.’
Obviously though… each to their own!
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You working mums”…. *snort
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I think you’ve missed the point here… it’s not really each to their own. I would have dearly loved to have spent more time with my children when they were babies, but my husband’s income didn’t cover our basic living expenses, so my income was required. We have always lived in modest accommodation and spend a very modest amount on expenses.
Our only other option was not to have children, and that would have broken my heart more than missing some of their baby years. Thanks to a lot of hard work, when exhausted after a day earning a living, we are all a very loving & cohesive family. Our option was kids or no kids, not stay at home or ‘miss out’. I’m happy with choosing to have children over not having them
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So was the father at “somewhere more important”? Or was he home too creating this “bond” that only full time parents apparently have with their children?
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Heaven forbid a woman might work for reasons other than financial.
She might want to make a valuable contribution to her field of work.
The attitude that women only work to keep a roof over their heads/to buy their kids iPods drives me nuts.
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Love this. So true. What price do you put on a child’s formative years?
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I do work because I have to. But sometimes I wish I didn’t have to.
Some nights are soo hard. Bloody tired after a crap day at work, PMSy and have to deal with the bedtime routine of two little kids who I haven’t seen all day and dinner and everything else. I can’t be attentive to them in the same way – I am too stressed and tired. I feel like I am just doing a chore instead of really enjoying them Mon-Fri. On the weekends, it is a bit easier and I look forward to it. It is a hard balancing act and I wish it was different. I do feel that the time invested in children by their parents early on is important. I wish I had more time and was less tired. But this is life..,
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It’s just projection. The parents who feel guilty or would prefer not to work and put their kids in care will comment on those that stay home. The parents at home who feel guilty about not being in paid employment or wish they were, will comment on working parents. Those that are happy with their situation will be accepting of each other.
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Great post. It’s hard either way, and people are so judgmental. It is amazing though that no one says all of this rubbish to fathers. It’s just assumed that fathers have to go to work. I work full time and so does my husband. I have done so since my youngest was in kinder. My sons are now 19 and 16 and have a beautiful relationship with both sets of grandparents because of the time they spent with them after school when they were little. Even if I say so myself, my sons are the most wonderful human beings and I have no regrets!
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YAWN. Another mummy article. Does anyone on this site not have children?
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Thank god somebody finally said this
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No!! Evidently!!
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I don’t, and I actually enjoy some of the ‘mummy’ articles. They give me the opportunity to get an insight on a world I don’t experience personally and to see what matters to a whole community out there.
Also makes me realise that although I cop flak for ‘selfishly’ not having kids despite being married with an adequate income, at least I”ll avoid being judged for my lifestyle after I have them!
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This issue isn’t about sahm’s offending working mums and vice versa. It’s just about insensitive people saying inappropriate things. There are rude people everywhere commenting about everything. On a bad day tell them to mind their own business, on a good day laugh it off and be happy with your choices.
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You know, I think its also often about overally sensitive people creating negative connotations out of others’ comments. For instance someone saying ‘I dont know how you di it’ could just mean exactly that.
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This debate is never fair on working mums. Stay at home mums might have to deal with people saying they must be bored or unstimulated. Meanwhile, working mums have to deal with people, including plenty here, saying their children are at a social disadvantage. There’s a big difference.
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Tara, when I was a SAHM I was sometimes asked if I was worried my child would be less ‘advanced’ when he started school because he hadn’t been ‘taught’ at childcare. I was also asked if I was worried that he would turn out clingy or dependent because I had stayed home for the first few years of his life.
I was never too concerned about these comments because I knew they weren’t true.
I’m not telling you this to be argumentative, just to point out that SAHMs do get criticised for how they are raising their kids.
I have three kids (one almost an adult now) and have pretty much been every “type” of mum you can think of – full time worker, part time worker, SAHM and now I work from home. Let me assure you that every one of these roles has it’s pros and cons. And no matter what you choose there will be critics. The trick is not to worry about what other people think and to make sure you’re happy with your own choices
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I have two babies, 5 months and 2.5 years. I have gone into full time work because basically I want the extra cash and the trappings that go along with having extra money. Am I selfish ? Perhaps .. Do I need to work ? No as my husband is a great earner. I just feel that if I can offload them to childcare 3 days and 2 days at the inlaws I can enjoy my time at work which is indeed much easier than minding 2 little ones. Sorry but I dont want to give up too much of the good life to be at home full time.
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This post is a smart arse post right? I don’t want to waste my time thinking or typing about the selfishness of you and much more when surely you are joking.
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Some things never change!
30 years ago I went back to work full time as a nurse and my husband went back to full time study at Uni. Our children were either at home with their father or with their grandmother – there was no “childcare centre” in those days in rural Australia.
So almost every week, people would literally walk right up to me in the street and say things like “Oh, how can you go back to work and leave your babies?” – should add that the ‘babies were 18 months & 3 years.
Well, it wasn’t an easy decision, but it was the best one for our family at the time.
Or how about “nothing can replace a mother’s care”? FFS, they were with their father or nana – they were loved, fed, clean etc etc
Of course the killa was “you’re taking a job away from a young, unemployed person” . Here the logic defeated me:
a. I was a trained nurse, a young unemployed person could not do my job
b. My husband was not working (haha try telling him that when he was studying + caring for littlies!!), so was our family not entitled to have someone working and bringing in a wage?
These days even country towns have childcare services and many women work, so it is not quite the novelty that it was 30 years ago.
Still the same response really applies – people should shut up and mind their own business. If a mother goes to work, for whatever reason, it is her affair and no one has the right to judge, disrespect or comment on it. Like I said … some things never change though!
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You’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Same with breastfeeding. bottlefeeding, sleep training methods, how the kids were born, organic or not organic food, blah blah blah. Now where was that article on those ugly shoes……..
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I’m in my final year of high school now and my mum works full time and runs a dance school after hours. I think it’s silly to presume that kids are going to be significantly effected by going to pre school/ having a nanny/ having a sahm.
My parents (like all parents) want to give me the best of the world, right? And one way THEY feel they are able to do that is by providing for the household financially while my brother and I focus on our studies.
Sure, they were late to a few recitals and my childhood was always filled with rushing from event to event and running from school and changing and waiting by the door for my mum to drive me to dance/ flute/ netball classes. The point is, at the time, I was probably very harsh on my mother. Always wondering why the other sahm mums who had their kids all prepped and at netball on time each week could do it and why my mother couldn’t ever arrive on time.
Looking back though, working is what made her happy in addition to having me. I’m sure everyone thinks their kids are the lights of their life, but in all honesty right now I come home and do my homework and am a lot more interested in going out and locking myself in my room. I still talk to my mum and we have an open and loving relationship, but I certainly don’t need her all the time.
My mum tried the SAHM thing for a while but it wasn’t for her. She made all the after school pick ups on time and we always had lovely meals cooked, but she wanted more. That’s not a critisicm on anyone elses choices- it jsut wasn’t for her.
I am soooo not damaged or scarred and look up to her as an absolute inspiration. I never felt less loved because she worked and I know that if she had been a SAHM mum for a longer period of time, she would not have the amazing job that she has now because of her long time out of the workforce. And yes- she wouldn’t be able to buy me all the lovely things I want too
Do whatever works for you and your family. And honestly, kids are flexible. If you love what you do, even if you’re absent sometimes, they will forgive and forget. Take it from me
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I love this answer. My mum worked full time from when I was in mid-primary school – and would have done so earlier but for living OS where her qualifications weren’t recognized. My mum has a lot of faults (she’s human!), but working ain’t one of them. As an adult woman I am enormously, eternally grateful to her for showing me that there was much much more to her life than marriage and children. She never gave less than 100 per cent to me or my dad – and she still kicked arse career-wise and academically. Go working mums!
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Bless you!! As a full-time working mum of a 6 and 8 year old, this means so much to me. My daughters are my world; but I also happen to (financially) need and love my job. Every day, I try to let the girls know how much they mean to me, and they always tell me I’m the best mum in the world, but I keep wondering when I will let them down to the point they no longer believe it. Thanks for giving me the possibility that if I love them enough & work hard enough, it all might work out in the end
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Ok can we address the elephant in the room? Can we stop tip-toeing around for once? Working mothers work harder, contribute more to society, are more interesting, more fulfilled and better role models than your average Carol Brady. Fact.
Stay at home mums have too much time on their hands (hence the curse of the mummy blog), are neurotic and self entitled and are staring down the barrel of a future without financial independence, personal achievements or meaning.
If women truly want to support each other we should stop pretending that staying home with kids is a fact universally acknowledged to be the pinnacle of female aspiration.
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I feel people judge me because im not working at the moment. I just finished my dip ed, studied full time for the whole of last year with 2 toddlers now i’m feeling the pressure to jump back in the workforce straight away!! We just can’t win no matter what we do or don’t do.
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Well obviously you can’t say anything to anyone these days.
Yawn.
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Blah blah blah….. I AM SICK OF HEARING HOW SENSITIVE WORKING MOTHERS ARE…. I am a full time uni student my kids are in care 4 days a week but I don’t take affense to mother asking it. Mind you I did stay home for the first 2 years of their life at a great financial expense where we struggled weekly to pay bills. We got by, by CUTTING BACK to bare minimium.
the writer writes:
There’s always time to work later, these early years are so precious.
All the years are precious. And why don’t people say this to fathers?
ANSWER: They are precious because they set the foundation of the relationship. Read this book it might help you understand child development.
Berk, L., (2009). Child Development 8th ed. Pearson International Edition. Allyn and Bacon.
Dads do get asked.
My sister in law is sensitive but seriously just own up to it. stop being so bloody sensitive and get down from your horse. She sounds so bitter. Mothers who work DO ALSO look down at those who chose not to.
Women are judgemental. Full stop.
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and spoken so judgementally by yourself. well done
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Sure if you’re abused or completely abandoned as a child maybe the early years set the tone for the relationship. I’m sorry but I don’t remember all that much from my childhood except my parents doing their best and loving me. That’s the key- LOVE. That’s all a child needs. All this mental, physical stimulation and care/ verse non direct care emotionally scarring them. I don’t buy it. Do you remember all that much from when you were a tiny child?????
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You don’t necessarily remember it but it sets the path for ongoing development.
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Sure. So does having a miserable mother who is forced to stay at home because of the judgement of people like you.
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No one is forced to do anything. Do what’s right for you. But dont deny that those early years aren’t important. The ages between 0-5 are critical for development. You don’t need to get defensive if you are not feeling guilty about your choices.
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I have been told by someone I just met, at work, that “it’s not right for the woman to be working when the children are young”. Where are those incinerating laser eye beams when you need them.
I’ve also heard most of the other things you mention. People are often quite clueless, but I have become much more zen about it these days. I do notice that now that my kids are in school people are more relaxed about my choice to work.
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This is such a loaded topic, but for my two cents I think we should stop justifying our decisions by saying ‘its best for the child’ and acknowledge most of the time we do what suits the mother/primary care giver.
If the mother wants to stay home and is prepared to deal with the financial consequences then generally she stays home – and that has good sides. If she wants to go to work and has faith in the quality of care (formal/family/whatever) her child will receive she goes to work – and that has good sides. And I think that’s OK. We don’t have to be martyrs (in either direction) for our children, who, in lucky wealthy healthy Australia will probably be fine regardless of what we choose.
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I absolutely agree.
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I am the child (now 21 yr old) of working parents. Me and my 2 siblings all had a nanny as our dad worked full time as an investment banker who was always home late and our mum worked three days a week in financial PR. My mum worked because she wanted to- we were discussing this last night and she said she would have been bored if she had stayed at home full time. The most crap she got for being a working mum were from some particularly bitchy mothers at my brothers primary school, when she had to cancel canteen duty at the last minute because of a business trip to Perth.
Did I miss my mum when she worked? Yes. Am I ‘damaged’ now because of it? Not at all, I can’t even remember most of it.
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Why is it that these articles are usually directed at the Mums. What about the Dads who go to work? Sometimes I feel there is so much more guilt piled on us than our partners.
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Perhaps it’s in inverse proportion to the guilt and responsibility placed upon men to work and be sole providers.
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The traditional role of the mother as primary care giver haunts us – society is still yet to recognise fathers in the same way. How many times have you heard “Where are the kids? Is your husband BABYSITTING them?”. Why does no one question fathers who choose to work? How many conversations do people have about paid paternity leave???
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