By PHOODIE
So today I bring you a post that is completely unrelated to cooking, eating, and enjoying food. Yes, as passionate as I am about those things, I very much have a life outside of them! Being “Mama” to a one and a two year old is what ‘life outside food’ revolves around these days. And as you know, it’s a 24/7 job.
Now I’m not going to go on about whether being a parent is “hard” or “easy”. What I will say though, is that being a parent is sometimes (read: often), “challenging”, and most (if not all) of the parents I know do their best at all times. Their best might not always be perfect and it certainly might not be what you or I would do in the same situation but it is THEIR best and I guess that’s my point.
One person’s right is another person’s wrong. One person’s “definitely do” is another person’s “definitely DON’T”. So why do some people feel the need to impose what they would and wouldn’t do in a certain parenting situation upon another person!? And why did this happen to me three times today? Nobody is perfect but the way some people launch onto you with their opinions demonstrates that some people think they are!
I’ll tell you about my day and you can let me know what you think. First up, this morning I took my two year old out for a little one on one time. We arrived at our local shopping centre and she was so excited when the lift taking us up from the car park arrived that she ran at one billion km/h into it. She charged into the lift so quickly that she bumped straight into the handrail inside, hitting her head pretty hard. It made a loud thud sound and my immediate reaction was “Oh shit! Sweetie are you OK!? Are you OK honey!?”
In the lift at the time was another woman my age (in her 30s) and a woman in her 50s with a teenage boy. The woman in her 50s screeches out to me “Oh my God!! Did you HEAR what you just said?!?!” And I was like “Huh?!” My daughter had just hit her head and I was too busy rubbing it and checking she was OK. So she repeats, “Did you or did you NOT hear what you just said!??!” So I said “I beg your pardon?!” and she says “You just disgracefully swore in front of your child!!”
The woman in her 30s gave me a knowing look and I just came straight out with “Oh God, she hears A LOT worse than that EVERY DAY!” (Not true at all but I felt like it might make her back off in shock! She was CLEARLY so offended by my knee-jerk use of the word “Shit” in front of my child.) Sorry for being human!
The second incident occurred when I was in the grocery store and my son was screamingggggggg his head off, which he doesn’t normally do but when he does it’s enough to send me right over. Anyway, I ordered a coffee from the cafe at the back of the store and when I was paying I said to the barista, who was looking on sympathetically, “Oh he’s so naughty, I’m exhausted!”
A random woman at the deli counter flung around and said, about 2cm away from my face, “Did you just call your child ‘naughty’?” and I said “Um yeah,” and she said “NEVER, EVER say that again. no small child is naughty. They may be tired or teething or frustrated but they are NOT naughty and calling them so can cause them damage later in life.” OK, now that I’ve calmed down a little I can sort of see what she’s saying, repetitive verbal and emotional abuse and branding a child naughty 24/7 can stuff some people up. But she doesn’t know me, she doesn’t know if I’ve ever called him that before, and anyway, you might want to mind your own business.
Finally, I went for a walk with the kids after dinner, just around the block for about 15 minutes. It was a mild evening and my kids are (and always have been) “hot kids”. Like me, they really, really feel the heat. Anyway, as we were just about to step back into our home, a passer by, a man in his 70s, jumps in front of my double pram and yells out “Why aren’t those kids wearing jumpers?!”
Literally, just like that. BANG. No beating around the bush, no little intro before the big hit, just straight in with the ‘Why haven’t you dressed your kids appropriately you stupid, stupid woman?!’ style insult. Because it’s summer! Because they’re my kids! Leave me alone. *Sob*. I just stared at him and then opened my front gate. I was finished. A broken woman.
I came inside, put the kids to bed and started to think about what I needed to do to release some of my frustration and anger. I felt I had to seek refuge from the crazies of the universe. I had to feel that I wasn’t alone in this “stranger invasion” world. So I put a call out to my parent friends on Facebook to see if they too had been on the receiving end of such advice.
Within MINUTES I had about 20 stories from my mates that included one being abused by the guy delivering the groceries about her little girl’s nap time, another received detailed instructions about the “correct” way to hold her newborn from the teen dude working at 7-11, a third was informed by an elderly lady to put down her child as she “is too old for Mummy to hold anymore” (my friend was carrying her as she had been in a hip to toe cast for the previous 6 weeks) HECK, one of my friends even had a retail assistant remove her child’s thumb from her mouth, telling her that “sucking your thumb gives you bad teeth”! There were many more stories and they all screamed “invasion central!”
I now want to hear from you.
Have you ever received unsolicited advice from a stranger? Did it offend you? Have you been the giver of unsolicited advice? What made you want to advise the stranger?
After graduating from high school, Phoodie studied Interior Architecture at UNSW. She worked for several years as a designer before having the courage to throw caution to the wind and run, very, very fast to the Le Cordon Bleu cookery school in London. She is a cookbook, restaurant, and all round food obsessed blogger and Mum of 2. She can be found posting recipes here, tweeting here, or on Facebook here.








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I find that soo strange! I never have my parenting commented on like that! I can’t imagine what I’d say? I’ve had people make eyes when I’ve had my kids watching an iPad at a restaurant but I just focus on the ten other tables who are eating their meal in peace and glad that I brought it. I don’t know what I’d say if someone made those kinds of comments! I think I’d probably be very angry and indignant. Maybe that’s it, maybe I look scary and so people hold their tongue? I’m only 5ft 2 tho &slim. Hmm…is it coz I’m dark-skinned? Very strange…& completely rude. I would only comment on a strangers kids if they were hitting them or putting them otherwise in danger.
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It’s funny that it’s usually women giving this cheeky “advice” to other women. Wouldn’t it be nice if we all gave each other a bit of support? I can laugh off odd comments now, but as a new mum they can really hurt. Like the old lady who told me off for feeding my two yr old a cup cake in the supermarket. Hello? You’ve no idea what she’s eaten all day – have a look in my trolley, plenty fresh fruit, veggies in there! I think the perfect response I should give from now on is “well at least I’m not feeding them drugs/alcohol/ nicotine dear!”
And my husband has never had a negative comment about his parenting skills while out with the kids. He has had a few compliments for just taking them out tho.
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My very wise and funny almost 8 yr old daughter and I were in the supermarket about 5 days after Christmas and saw Easter eggs on display. I turned to her and said “don’t look at them they will burn your eyes out”. My daughter giggled her head off, she got the joke, but an older lady turned to me and chastised me for saying such a terrible thing to my small child! I turned and, smiling sweetly, responded “I didn’t tell her they would burn her f!&$@!g eyes out”. My daughter got that joke too.
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I’ve got 17mth old & work with the public closely..I’ve had great advice & crap advice & everything in between. I’ve learnt to listen & take what works for me & ignore the rest, I also firmly believe the vast majority of people don’t intend to be offensive, it’s either a joke that falls flat or even if as a parent having a rough day we are particularly sensitive. Just don’t take it yo heart or too seriously..and here’s an idea occasionally say thank you..because whether you asked fir it or not or its helpful ir not, generally it is someone actually trying to help albeit in a less than helpful manner!
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Love the response. It is polite but has a big full stop at the end.
Btw, no one has said a thing to my husband either!
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Oh my gosh Phoodie!! Is this for real?!?! What part of this country do you live in, because I don’t ever want to go there.
I’m lucky to have never had my parenting commented on by strangers, but I wouldn’t expect that either!
As you say, we all do our best, no one wants badly behaved kids because life is just too short, so we try as best we can with what we’ve been given.
I can see how some people might be well meaning, but honestly, in my book you keep it to yourself!!
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Not quite unsolicited advice, but in a similar vein….
My MIL came over to look after my daughter for a few hours while my daughter was ill (arranged by my husband, who was meant to be looking after her while I was at work for the morning, without my knowledge).
My daughter had a sore throat and high fever (diagnosed later in the day by a dr as tonsillitis). I had been to the chemist earlier in the day for panadol and nurofen to help with the pain and fever. I had discussed the age of my daughter with him and he gave me the right meds and confirmed dosages (which were all relayed to MIL).
I came home from work later in the day to take my daugher to the dr (why is it so hard to get into a dr these days????) and her fever was sky high and she was writhing in pain. She said that the MIL told her that she shouldn’t take the nurofen and panadol and should just gargle salt water. I was furious. She went against specific instructions (supported by a chemist’s advice) in favour of her old wives remedy.
She then proceded to speculate, in front of my daughter, about what terrible illness she might have (“There’s been a terrible virus going all around the world – really nasty!”) or where she might have gotten it from (“Oh, well she went swimming at her friends house last week. She probably got something from the pool”. Completely uninformed (and wrong!), and it just made my daughter feel worse.
Had to do some major tongue biting!
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Oh I feel your pain!!!
I’ve had a similar incident with food: no I prefer if my child doesn’t live off cake and muffins for three days straight.
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I would have gone completely mental if my MIL did this! While I do believe salt water does help a sore throat, it sure as hell doesn’t do anything for a fever! How rude of her to go against what you wanted!
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Yesterday I stood with my friend waiting for his wife to go to the ladies’ room. He was holding their 15 month old son. A woman came to me and started talking about the toddler, so I pointed at my friend and said, ‘he’s the dad, this isn’t my kid’. The woman was quite surprised. Then she began talking about the pros and cons of the amber teething necklace the boy was wearing and said, ‘I’m a nurse. I hope I don’t ever see him in my emergency room having choked on one of those beads!’
I don’t have kids myself, and I was amazed that this person just approached and gave her two cents. Apparently my friends get all kinds of ‘advice’ all the time. Also, the mum is 25 but looks very young, and she often cops disapproving looks from older people.
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My daughter was born at 32 weeks and spent the first 6 weeks of her life in hospital. You can imagine our excitement when she was finally allowed to come home! After about a week of settling in, I decided to take her for an outing to the local supermarket. She was still very small, less than 5 pounds, but to us she was huge considering she had been 3 1/2 pounds at birth. A lot of people stopped to ask me questions, the most common “was she premature”, and I was more than happy to ‘show off’ my baby for the first time and chat to strangers.
When I was lined up at the checkout an elderly woman behind me starting fussing over her, and asking the same questions, “did she come early?” Yes, I answered, she was 8 weeks premature. As quick as a flash she came back with “Well don’t expect too much, you know she will never be right in the head don’t you”.
I was beyond shocked, at first I thought maybe I had misheard, but the expressions on peoples faces around me assured that I had heard her correctly. I don’t remember saying anything, which is very unusual for me, I am never short of a comeback, but this time I was utterly speechless. I quickly got through the checkout, drove home and once through the front door I burst into tears.
The more I thought about it, the angrier I became. We were incredibly lucky, our daughter didn’t have any developmental or health problems, but this stranger didn’t know that. What if she had made that comment to a Mum of a disabled child, or a child facing years of developmental difficulties? It was so thoughtless and unnecessary and so very hurtful.
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I think I need to stop reading the comments…. all my anger had dissipated but now seems to be rearing its head again! That’s shocking – you poor dear
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It’s almost inconceivable to think there are two such dingbats in the world, but someone said this to me about my 31 weeker as well. Four years has passed and can still picture her face. I’ve got a bazillion comebacks now though, and if I ever see her again she’s going to be in awe of my witty reposte.
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My daughter was born just 2 days before her due date. She was 3.08kg or 6lb 12oz and 51cm. She had a lovely little head at 31cm!
When she was about a month old I was in a baby wear shop. Another mum asked how old she was and I told her. She then asked if she was early and I said no. She then insisted she must have been early. Ummm…I forgot my diaphragm ONCE, not only can I tell you the day but I can tell you the time she was conceived.
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One of the nicest gestures was ironically in another food shop. I was having a really really bad day and my patience was less than zero. My daughter (same one that was fed half breast half formula- see my comment last night) was in the way of the fruit shop owner as she was trying to restock the shelves . I grabbed my daughter to move her out of the lady’s way and berated her. The lady didnt say a word, didnt give me an evil eye, just calmly reached into her box and gave my daughter a banana and a reassuring smile. My tension dissapated immediately!!!! I was so appreciative of her gesture.
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I have had this happen on numerous occasions and it really shakes your conifdence. The worst two times though have been when I was abused TWICE by the same old woman while getting on the bus on two separate occasions when my baby was about ten months old. She didn’t bother to give me advice, just started abusing me and pointing at my baby saying ‘I paid for that’ (meaning the baby bonus). She obvioulsy wasn’t all there, because she said the exact same thing to me the next time I got on the bus too. I started to tear up of course and noone on that bus told her to be quiet! I just tried to tell myself she must have had a really bad life to be such a mean old cow!
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I think it depends on the advise being given and the context. All three of these situations were pretty unacceptable and rude. However I always appreciate good quality, constructive advise from my mother and mother-in-law. But they are never rude.
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Sooo many stories but my favorite and a quickie is when others take the dummy out of your childs mouth and say “you don’t need that”!!!!!
Just one more, a 60 something year old lady stopped my double pram and told my 3 year old he was lucky because “in her day, when younger siblings arrived the older one just had to learn to walk next to the pram”. Not to worry that he was (and is still) a shocking runner and I’ve had many near misses with traffic and lost him in shopping centres loads.
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I LOVE to do the reverse…. you see a screaming child in the supermarket and you say, “hold on deary only 4 hours until bed time i know how you feel” to the mother. As a “young mother” (hate the ideas people have about being too young to be a mother), I cop it all the time and I think that people really need to but out!
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Older people seem to me to be the most judgemental of young mums, which is ridiculous as 50 year ago it was normal to have kids at 20, but now its considered too young. Confuses me to no end.
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I have a little tribe and I always, always get people saying “You’ve got your hands full”. Like, every single time we leave the house.
Most times people look so horrified that they can’t think of anything to say.
Other mums say,”How do you do it?” and I reply brightly, “I find regular beatings most efficacious.”
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In response to the lady in the elevator I would have just said “shit, shit, shit, SHIT” and walked away.
Silly woman.
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My response exactly, although an elevated level of cursing, involving F words, c words, M words and sh words. That I would not use normally in front of my child, but in this provocated state I would have dug them out and waved them wildly in the busy body’s face.
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Colin Firth in ‘The King’s Speech’
Enough said.
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These sorts of things always seem to happen in a ‘rash’ and they leave you feeling absolutely gutted. A few days gives perspective but I think we just need to get better at telling these meddlers to bugger off and mind their own business.
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I only ever gave advice once, and it wasn’t totally unsolicited. I was in the babyfood aisle at the time with my son who would have been about 10 months at the time. There was a woman with an almost newborn in her arms (less than 6 weeks) and she asked me whether the tinned beef and vegetables was the right thing to give him. I told her that she shouldn’t be giving him any solids till he was a bit older except with a doctor’s instructions, and definitely not beef and vegetables — rice cereal r fruit gels would be a safer choice — but she should really speak to her doctor before giving any solids. last i saw she was still looking at the beef and vegetables ..
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It’s all well and good to give unsolicited advice but there is a fine line between “have you ever thought of doing it this way?” and “your doing it wrong”. And i would never, ever presume to offer “advice” to someone i dont know. I don’t understand what makes people feel like they have the right to pass judgement on my (or anyone elses, for that matter) parenting skills. Especially when they have no idea about the circumstances. I find that we, as a society, are all to ready to jump to the aid of the poor screaming 2 yr old in the supermarket or even berate the mother for allowing said toddler to behave that way, but no one ever stops to think that maybe that 2 yr old is just having a bad day and its all the mum can do to hold onto that shred of sanity that has been keeping her going all day. Here’s a thought, instead of being judgemental and intrusive why don’t we just appreciate that this parent is doing the best that they can and that sometimes children aren’t always “perfect little angels”. And ultimately, opinions are like a&$@holes, everyone’s got one but that doesn’t mean you have to moon the world.
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I just can’t believe this sort if thing really happens!! I have a 5 week old baby girl and its scary enough, being out in the big wide world with her, without having to worry about other people.
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CONGRATULATIONS GEORGI!
Such a special, and in my opinion, challenging time.
Sounds funny coming from me because I just wrote an article about how strangers made me question my ability, but after calming down and thinking about it rationally, I know that OUR best is ABSOLUTELY all that matters for our kids.
Good luck and again, congrats!
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Absolutely. I’ve been a mum for almost 22 years and the best advice I can find is: trust yourself. You’ll be fine. And you’ll make mistakes. Like everyone else.
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My dad had my daughter on one of those kiddie-leashes. Yes, we always swore we would never use one, but then our daughter became a “bolter” and it’s safer for mum and Dad to use the “leash” when in a busy place.
So dad was walking with her and a man says “I don’t even need to put my dog on a lead”.
Dad’s response was “Well, my granddaughter’s life is more precious than your dog’s.”
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On a side note. I can’t stand people who walk their dog without a leash. I have to have my dog on a leash why do they think they don’t? Where’s the ranger when you need him?
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I walk my kelpie cross border collie without a lead. He listens to me implicitly, stops as soon as I say stop, waits to cross the road, never jumps on people, and if anyone is walking towards us he sits on the council strip next to the path. I do this because I was able to train him well before having kids, he is very intelligent, and he wouldn’t get a walk otherwise as I need all available hands for the cheeky monkey I have in tow!
On the other hand, my 3 year old has never been so easy to train or so well behaved. At 1-2 years I used a monkey backpack leash. I have no problem with it. When people said “how can you put your child on a leash like a dog?” i would reply “my dog doesnt need a leash, but my child does or his safety and my sanity.”
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I am afraid of dogs. If I see a dog unleashed, whether it is with someone or not, my heart rate goes up, I start sweating, my vision goes blurry, I want to cry. I suppose you could call it a phobia (but only dogs I don’t know. I have a Blue Heeler and a Golden Retriever) My friends 5 year old daughter is the same, she would run into traffic to get away from an unleashed dog.
I think it is inconsiderate to walk your dog unleashed. You may trust your dog but not everyone else does. Plus I think you can be fined for it?
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Sorry, but that’s your problem. If an unleashed dog attacked you I would go, “Oh no, what an irresponsible person, etc. etc., but you can’t expect other people to care about your phobia when their pet is well trained and not causing any trouble.
That’s like saying, “Oh, children who aren’t on leashes terrify me because they might bolt into traffic. If your child is well behaved, you wouldn’t keep them on a leash, and you would roll your eyes at people who try to make you.
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Not sure where youre from but in sydney, most councils ban unleased dogs other than in dog parks..
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In my council a dog must be on a leash when not on private property or in a leash free dog park – that’s why I hate when I see people walking with their dog’s off leash (as I am following the law of the land).
Also I saw a woman walking with her dog (off leash) and he darted across the road. The driver of the car looked like he lost 7 years off his life (having nearly run over the dog in front of it’s owner).
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No matter HOW well your dog is trained, if it feels threatened or frightened it could attack or run off in an instant. also, if another leashless dog attacks your dog, you have no control over what happens. You are being selfish. Also, dogs personalities and ability to take direction can instantly change with illness, or gradually change with age.
Please, do not walk your dog without a leash. You will read stories about dogs that havent done a single naughty thing in 10 years, then snap and break a kids neck. They cant tell us how theyre feeling, so please dont assume you know.
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Whenever I hear people say this I think of the time I was walking my dog (on lead) on a footpath on one side of a busy main road. There was a dog not on a leash on the other side. He spotted my dog and came prancing over to meet us and was skittled by a car in the process.
I’m not having a go, but just think about it.
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Hilarious that in an article about the outrageousness of unsolicited parenting advice there is such an outpouring of unsolicited dog-ownership advice.
I often say to unsolicited advice on my management of my 3 kids, 2 dogs or 3 horses- it’s my XX and i’ll risk it if I want to. Honestly everyone- back off, be helpful, be community minded and step in and help if you see kids, parents or animals in danger. But don’t try and prevent it happening with advice. Just but out.
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This is not behavioural though, its not as if we are talking about a dog barking too much, eating the wrong thing, or walking where he/she should… this is purely safety of the owners dog, other peoples dogs, and other peoples children. If a kid was walking around with a gun you can bet your bottom dollar that people would say something to the parents (and so they should). Dogs are natural hunters, they may not be able to harm adults easily but it doesnt take much for a large dog to snap a toddlers neck or knock them on their back/head… and dog fights are brutal.. Honestly I would put my life on the line to save my dog, so please don’t put my dog at risk.
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I took my kids to 2 different parks in a week and both times unleashed dogs have been there, even when the sign clearly says, $100 fine for unleashed dogs” this really gives me the shits
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Here’s another reason why men’s world is so much easier.
A bloke would simply say “Fuck off”
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Where on Earth do you live Phoodie? Sounds like an awful neighbourhood! I can’t believe people have the audacity to speak to strangers like that! You are doing a good job as a mother. When faced with a “first casting of the stone sesh” like you just described….get your catapult ready and stand firm.
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Silly old lady at shopping centre looking into pram : ‘So, are you breast feeding?’
My sister: ‘Why? Are you thirsty?’
Still cracks me up and it was years ago.
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lol!!!!!
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I’m impressed you actually left the house 3 times in one day with kids in toe!
Lots of points to you!
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Not quite unsolicited advice, but our son is the spitting image of my husband. So many people, including strangers, have come up to tell us this that I seriously contemplated making a tshirt that said “Yes, I know!”. Since having our baby I have found that most people have been lovely. I love it when people smile as they walk past us and make a nice comments about our son. There are nice people out there!!!
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My son is adopted. On more than one occasion I’ve had people we don’t know (or have just met) ask how much he cost. Just like that.
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*GASP* – Who ARE these people!?!
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That is soooo rude it is funny. Wow.
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Oh my god, what is wrong with people?
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Thursday week ago my 11 month old and I were invited to lunch at a friends house (mother of 2). When I arrived her sister was there with her 4 month old.
I had returned to PT work a few months earlier and she asked if I was back at work. I gave a flippant response, ‘yes, back part time’.
The verbal tirade that followed was astonishing… I was accused of psychologically damaging my son, told that a child’s place is at home with their mother and that the money I would make would never replace the moments I was missing. It was pretext with ‘now i wont be popular for saying this but…’
It then continued with a barrage of questions including asking the percentage of food I prepared at home for bubs…
I found myself a stammering, stuttering mess trying to justify that my hubby and I have a shared care arrangement and it is what we feel works best for us.
Needless to say I drove home in tears #ifyoudonthaveanythingnicetosay
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I have had near-strangers, ie people I’ve met about two minutes, tell me I should not work while I have young kids. Strangely my husband says this has never happened to him. I just say “they seem to be turning out fine so far, thanks” and change the subject.
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I believe that unsolicited advice is never welcome, particularly when it comes to parenting, because as you already said, most parents are doing the best they can. Unsolicited advice from friends and family can be acceptable if it’s worded in a diplomatic way.
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I have offered unsolicited advice once only. I saw a young (as in teenage young) mum in the parents room changing her baby’s nappy. Her baby had the worst thrushy nappy rash I have ever seen and she was talking to her friends about the trouble she’d had with it etc. I gave her some professional advice and left her with it.
Generally, I think it’s the height of rudeness to offer unsolicited advice to parents, especially judgemental advice.
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My daughter used the f word in perfect context at the age of two while describing the inadequacies of her broken pasta. My kids are naughty, like, all the time. Intentionally naughty, the little buggers. And they NEVER wear jackets, ever.
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I was in a seafood shop buying dinner and the shop assistant (a middle aged lady) was looking at my daughter who was about 3 months old at the time. “ahh! you are breastfeedin?” having an awful time struggling with milk supply I had to feed formula also. Caught a bit off guard I replied “half and half”. She had the nerve to tut tut me then lecture me that I should be exclusively breastfeeding. I paid for my seafood, got into my car and burst into tears. i haven’t been back to that shop, it is 4 years on now…
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When my son was 4 months old the same thing happened to me. I was bottle feeding him expressed bm when a woman poked her head. Into his pram and said? Don’t you think he’d prefer breast milk? I replied, “are you offering?” and she left.
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I was once holding a baby when someone asked me that question. I said “I can’t breastfeed” and she said “Everyone can breastfeed!” and I said “No they can’t – and certainly not me I’m not even the mother!”
Turns out when I became a mother I was actually unable to breastfeed – the guilt people lay on you for that is incredible! Unless you are that person’s doctor or their breatfeeding coach – BACK OFF!!!
(It’s been a few years now and I’m still touchy about inconsiderate people who loudly and vocally judge how mother’s feed their children)
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I used to get it a lot when my now 5 year old daughter was a baby. She hated being in her stroller and wanted to be carried all the time. Sometimes I had to use the stroller while out and about but she was never in it for more than about 20 minutes at a time. So many people would come up and say “Oh, I’d cry too if I was stuck in that stroller all day”. It really bothered me and would normally happen after I’d been carrying her for ages and had just put her down.
The one comment that annoyed me most though was when I was pushing the stroller through the city one-handed with my daughter on my hip and my toddler son walking next to me and these smirking hippies asked me why I had to take the stroller everywhere. It really pissed me off. I think it was because it was one of those big mega prams that fit the toddler and the baby. That particular day I was in town from early in the morning until late in the afternoon and my son wasn’t up to walking all day and occasionally I put the baby down too. Plus I didn’t have a car so needed it to get them home from the bus stop. I think they assumed I was pushing my mega pram around as some sort of status symbol.
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My best one was when my first son was 3 weeks old. It was January and we live in North Queensland. I had a child’s birthday dinner to go to, so was out shopping for a present for him and had my baby in a sling. An older lady came up to me and complimented me on how cute he was etc then said “oh but in my day we would never have contemplated dragging the poor thing out into the heat”. Thanks.
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I’ll give a flip-side response to this:
The one and only time I chose to draw a mother’s attention to something was after I’d spent at least half an hour in a food court eating my lunch and watching her son play with another woman’s son while they were both completely out of their mothers’ sights. They would have been about 5 or 6.
They were throwing a toy across the food court and then running into the crowd (it was lunchtime), picking it up, taking it back and throwing it again. I saw trays and plates and glasses almost dropped on their heads numerous times, not to mention them almost being trampled as they blindly ran into the crowd over and over again. Apart from the fact that it was dangerous, it was also very disrupting.
As I said, this went on for at least half an hour. Their mothers never checked on them. After such a long period of time, I was furious that anything could have happened to these kids – they could have been snatched for all these mothers cared.
I finished my lunch, went over to the mothers and, as delicately as possible, tried to explain to them the danger their sons had been over the past half hour. Nice didn’t cut it. They got defensive, I got blasted and it was a waste of my time and energy. I’ll probably never do anything like that again. Ironically, it’s possible they’ll never do anything like that again either, because their defensiveness suggested they knew they shouldn’t have let their sons out of their sight for such a long time.
Your thoughts?
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Nup, if a kids life or safety is at risk, you should always say something. If those mothers never do that again purely cos you made them feel bad, then you did your job and i praise you
If their mums really werent paying much attention, someone could have grabbed one/both of them or led them away to a dangerous situation…
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I remember reading a story somewhere, sometime about a man getting on a bus with his children who proceeded to behave badly, while he appeared to sleep! Someone finally said – please control your kids (or words to that effect). He opened his eyes and quickly said, ‘I’m so sorry, we’ve just come from the hospital where their mother has died and they’re a bit stressed”. I’ve never forgotten that story. Who knows what people are going through…perhaps holding back judgement is the wise thing
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I hate to be a skeptic, but I have a feeling that was just a line. A bloody good one, though, as who’s going to argue with it!
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I’ve started saying something similar if I’m in a bad mood (that’s allowed sometimes, right?) and I get the inevitable “cheer up love, it might never happen”. It used to put me in a worse mood, now I say something along the lines of “Actually it did happen, my uncle died yesterday”.
Look on the face = gold!
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My daughter was having a massive tantrum in the shops. I’d refused to buy her a lolly and in turn Miss 3 had refused to get into the trolley (accompanied by loud screams, lying on the floor and thrashing hands). So I left her standing near the flowers and said she could wait there for me until I’d finished shopping (knowing that as soon as I was almost out of sight she’d change her tune). I made it as far as the tomatoes (about 5m away) when a woman asked what I was doing? I explained I was disciplining my child. She then went onto lecture me about how ‘unsafe’ my actions were. I ended up having to interrupt her and say that I appreciated her concern but I was handling the situation. Another mother watching close by said I was too polite and she would have told her to f*^* off. I felt better
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Feeling SO much better after reading everyone’s comments! Thanks so much for sharing your crazy stories with me. It’s good to know there are tonnes of people out there who think the same as I do and agree on what’s “cool” and what’s “crossing the line”!….. brings me back to my philosophy on people…… 99.999999% are ‘good eggs’!
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My favourite is still when I bumped into distant relations (a mum and daughter) at the shop. I asked how things were going with her daughter who was about 2 at the time. The daughter proceeded to say to me, “I was thinking about another child, but I was worried I might get one like your son.” I could barely hide my sadness, particularly in light of the fact we were in the process of going through a diagnosis for autism. It doesn’t have to be strangers that say stupid things!!!
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Wow. Just wow. How can someone be so thoughtless and unkind? I’d say she’s saying a whole lot more about herself here than she is about your child.
Wow. Sorry to keep banging on, I’m just shocked.
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Gee. Honestly, I really think some people JUST DO NOT THINK AT ALL when they open their mouths. Disgraceful.
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I feel sorry for her kids!
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My sis-in-law never said anything, but when she fell pregnant, she insisted on TWO amniocentesis tests to check that her child didn’t have Down Syndrome, like our son. Some people have absolutely no idea of the hurt they cause.
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an aquaintence said to my friend, about her son (who has downs syndrome) “is the downs yours? interesting…you don’t see them much anymore since prenatal testing” – omg some people are just mean wankers
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I like to pretend I am hard of hearing ‘I’m sorry, what? I can’t hear you, could you speak more clearly? You really must learn to enunciate… Enunciate!’ And then walk off
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Great response
Awesome.
I’m not a Mum and have never encountered this sort of utter nonsense from strangers – although I know what it’s like to get constant unsolicited and rude “advice” from extended family on all sorts of issues – which the same extended family members inflicted on my Mum, going so far as to sneakily feed me formula milk when I was a baby, without my mother knowing – as they believed breastfeeding was wrong!).
If one can possibly manage it (ie if one can find the energy, patience, time etc etc) I think your type of response is the best – you make light of it and turn it into something that’s quite hilarious really. These types of awful and judgey people don’t deserve their words to be taken seriously. Of course, in most cases I have no doubt it’s extremely difficult to not let it get to you, no matter how crazy it is. I have a lot of sympathy for all of the mothers who have copped this. I’m amazed.
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My friend came to visit with her 3 Yr old daughter and I was making a cup of tea for us,when I heard her telling my two Yr old son he was a naughty boy for wetting his pants.(He was toilet training) She came into the kitchen and instructed me to leave him in wet tracksuit pants until the urine burnt his skin.
I immediately went into the bathroom and ran him a lovely warm bath with his Favourite bath wash and all his toys. I played with him with all his toys and she left in huff. I didn’t have to say a word.
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That really does burn, I would call that child abuse. Her poor daughter.
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Oh my gosh. Your poor little boy. He was learning, it is not like he was 16 and did it on purpose.
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I’ll never forget a friend’s sister telling her daughter off and I think maybe even smacking her for wetting her pants when she was toilet training about 20 years ago. It was awful.
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What a cow. I pity her daughter.
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Gosh you crack me up Phoodie!Your food articles always have me nodding along and laughing and this one had me furious! Some people are so rude.Love your style. Keep up the entertaining posts. Bet you were an entertaining child growing up too!!
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Phoodie you really make me laugh!
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I am 8 Month pregnant atm with I have 20 Month old.
the two that i get all the time at the moment is When are you due, then followed by gzzz your big sure you aren’t having twin (it got to me so much i even asked my midwife and she said if anything little on small size)
and other is isn’t your child to old for dummy (she doesn’t have favourite two or blanket just one dummy on chain clip) i think up to child and parent when they get rid of dummy.
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I got exactly the same comments when I was pregnant. Some of us just show more than others!! Also copped heaps over a dummy. Lots of people saying to my daughter “yuk what do you want that disgusting thing for.” Like it’s any of their business. My favourite was the lady who came up to my husband, myself and my then 2 year old who had her dummy in. She said “oh she reminds me of my granddaughter at the same age. Ignore all the people who say anything horrible about her dummy. My granddaughter is now 21 and studying medicine, her dummy did her no harm.” Made up for all the unwanted comments.
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Don’t worry about the dummy thing. Especially at that age! I’ve never proactively given a dummy and neither have ever wanted one, BUT my daughter has a rag doll she cannot be separated from, not even fir a minute. It is gritty and gross and needs a wash, but I cantget it away from her or long enough. It would be easier with a dummy, and probably more hygienic!
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Oops, I too have been guilty of this. Many years ago, as a naive teenager, I commented to the size of my Aunt’s pregnant belly, remarking that it was big for 6 months. She looked wonderfully, healthy and happy and it was meant as a compliment but she took it verrrrryy badly. Looking back on it now I can still see that my intentions were innocent but I guess I must have seemed like a right little bitch
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I find it funny when people get passive aggressive. e.g. (directing comment to six month old) “your head must be cold did mummy not give you a hat?”
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Yes! The worst! Grrrrrrr!
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What rude people. Manners people- we have forgot the rules of living in society it seems. people have lost the guide book on polite.
If that happened to me I would be so upset. I think you should just put people like that politely in their place, smile sweetly then walk off. roubleis you always think of the reheat to say 10 minutes later when you have walked off!
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Try having one child, then the comments really start flying! I have been called selfish, told my son will grow up spoilt, given pitying looks or basically just get the ‘oh how nice, so no more then?’….
We have made the choice and he is surrounded by other children and has a rich social life and our core values do not subscribe to ‘ overt spoiling’ rather teaching him the value of money and a strong work ethic. People can be so insensitive and intrusive, I truly do not understand the need for it. My friend has one child, would love another but cannot for medical reasons which has been very hard for her. If someone made those comments to her she would be devastated. People should not judge so quickly, when did society suddenly become a forum to lecture complete strangers? I think you did well not to react Phoodie, I think the tiger mum in me would have come out, claws bared!
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It doesn’t matter how many you have Sarah. When we bought our 4th home from the hospital our next door neighbor, who only has one child, commented to us that she never felt the need to have any more children because she was lucky enough to get a perfect one first up. I was dumbstruck.. My husband deadpanned, “yeah we hope this ones a bit better than the other three” in response.. Too funny!
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we had our three kids close together and I had several people comment that they preferred to give their kids more time and more attention with a bigger age gap, good for you but why say that out loud to a mum of three under 4! #ifyoudonthaveanythingnicetosay
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Oh my goodness!! I’m not a mum, but I really feel this calls for some t-shirts to be made – maybe we could brainstorm slogans …
(Phoodie, it sounds like you ran into an especially high number of jerks in a short period of time …)
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Oh my goodness! I’m not a mum, but I really feel this calls for some t-shirts to be made – maybe we could brainstorm slogans …
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How about:
“Bugger off! Is your name Google??”
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Or one for the baby to wear. “Are you my mum? if not, keep mum!”
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How about “MY baby, MY business”?
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I love this idea! As long as they’re fashionable too e.g. neon, studs, some sparkles etc hehehehe
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I have a badge I wear sometimes that says: “I’m doing the best I can”.
I also have another (which I made myself) which says BEST MUM EVER
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I would probably have said “Good thing I didn’t say f**k then!” to the woman in the lift then given her a big grin
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bahaha!
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