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	<title>Comments on: Mia Freedman: The Gay Talk is the new Sex Talk.</title>
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		<title>By: Kate</title>
		<link>http://www.mamamia.com.au/parenting/the-gay-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-1366759</link>
		<dc:creator>Kate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:00:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So the talk inour house went like this: &quot;you know you&#039;re starting kindy soon, well you are going to see lots of families, some will be like ours and others they&#039;ll have a mum and a dad. Its not strange just different and those parents love their kids just like mum and I love you and your sisters&quot;. Easy - that was three years ago, we&#039;ve had the puberty talk now just the sex talk to go (we talk about how our babies were made not, no questions yet about how others make their babies, although we live on a farm....).

Seriously though, more people need to have the gay talk (I call myself a lesbian though) because even if you don&#039;t agree from a religious or cultural perspective making your child feel less like a pariah particularly as a teenager has got to be a good thing. When you grow up and there&#039;s no discussion about gay and lesbian issues its another thing that can break the balance of a teenager. The risk and reality of (particularly male) gay teen suicide is much higher than people who identify as hetrosexual.  For that reason alone the gay talk is important, even if you don&#039;t agree with it, keeping your child alive and safe through the teenage years by supporting their choices should be driver to have these conversations little and often.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So the talk inour house went like this: &#8220;you know you&#8217;re starting kindy soon, well you are going to see lots of families, some will be like ours and others they&#8217;ll have a mum and a dad. Its not strange just different and those parents love their kids just like mum and I love you and your sisters&#8221;. Easy &#8211; that was three years ago, we&#8217;ve had the puberty talk now just the sex talk to go (we talk about how our babies were made not, no questions yet about how others make their babies, although we live on a farm&#8230;.).</p>
<p>Seriously though, more people need to have the gay talk (I call myself a lesbian though) because even if you don&#8217;t agree from a religious or cultural perspective making your child feel less like a pariah particularly as a teenager has got to be a good thing. When you grow up and there&#8217;s no discussion about gay and lesbian issues its another thing that can break the balance of a teenager. The risk and reality of (particularly male) gay teen suicide is much higher than people who identify as hetrosexual.  For that reason alone the gay talk is important, even if you don&#8217;t agree with it, keeping your child alive and safe through the teenage years by supporting their choices should be driver to have these conversations little and often.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma</title>
		<link>http://www.mamamia.com.au/parenting/the-gay-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-1336104</link>
		<dc:creator>Emma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Dec 2012 07:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For chrissakes, you just tell your child that some men love other men, some women love other women, and that&#039;s just fine. Then you tell them that some  people judge the love of others, and that&#039;s not fine at all, no one has a right to do that. Keep the emphasis on the love part, and the human rights part, children understand that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For chrissakes, you just tell your child that some men love other men, some women love other women, and that&#8217;s just fine. Then you tell them that some  people judge the love of others, and that&#8217;s not fine at all, no one has a right to do that. Keep the emphasis on the love part, and the human rights part, children understand that.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 23:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Life is a smorgasboard, Z, you can choose whatever you like.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Life is a smorgasboard, Z, you can choose whatever you like.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 23:38:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes.  Most definitely. I have two older children and I have always believed that I do not own any of them, that they are all God&#039;s children and are on loan to me until they are old enough to look after themselves and be free to live according to their own lights.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  Most definitely. I have two older children and I have always believed that I do not own any of them, that they are all God&#8217;s children and are on loan to me until they are old enough to look after themselves and be free to live according to their own lights.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 22:20:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Totally, I would argue that there are lots of options and beliefs to choose from!  What about humans seeing other humans as okay, whatever they believe?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally, I would argue that there are lots of options and beliefs to choose from!  What about humans seeing other humans as okay, whatever they believe?</p>
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		<title>By: Oceans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oceans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:34:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will she have the opportunity to choose her own god (or none at all) as well?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will she have the opportunity to choose her own god (or none at all) as well?</p>
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		<title>By: Oceans</title>
		<link>http://www.mamamia.com.au/parenting/the-gay-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-1334370</link>
		<dc:creator>Oceans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, I&#039;m &#039;lesbian&#039; but prefer to be called &#039;gay&#039; if anyone is going to label me. Moreso, I&#039;d much prefer to be called by my name - I really hate any labels, but (for whatever reason) I really detest the word &#039;lesbian&#039;. Maybe I&#039;ve just heard it muttered in such detest from bigots over the years that I don&#039;t like the tone of it anymore. Who knows. Each to their own.

You are right concerning the different sets of prejudice that gay women face, however, I&#039;d like to think that these aren&#039;t the fault of the gay community, and don&#039;t feel the need to separate myself even further by branding myself with a name to distinguish me from my gay brothers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I&#8217;m &#8216;lesbian&#8217; but prefer to be called &#8216;gay&#8217; if anyone is going to label me. Moreso, I&#8217;d much prefer to be called by my name &#8211; I really hate any labels, but (for whatever reason) I really detest the word &#8216;lesbian&#8217;. Maybe I&#8217;ve just heard it muttered in such detest from bigots over the years that I don&#8217;t like the tone of it anymore. Who knows. Each to their own.</p>
<p>You are right concerning the different sets of prejudice that gay women face, however, I&#8217;d like to think that these aren&#8217;t the fault of the gay community, and don&#8217;t feel the need to separate myself even further by branding myself with a name to distinguish me from my gay brothers.</p>
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		<title>By: Fiona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fiona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 21:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Ewan, I think you&#039;ll find that &quot;hijack&quot; means to illegally stop and commandeer a vehicle. Good luck with limiting your conversation - let alone the world&#039;s - to original meanings of words! Seriously, being gay - or GLBTI, or homosexual, if you prefer - is not a &quot;lifestyle&quot;. It&#039;s people&#039;s lives, the lives they were born to.

And yes, the &quot;gay talk&quot; is mostly as easy as everyone says. Life and love is mostly this way, but sometimes that way, with no judgement. And after eleven years of experience bringing up two boys in a home with two mums, I could count the negative experiences we&#039;ve had on the fingers of one hand, and there&#039;s been nothing getting to know us hasn&#039;t fixed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Ewan, I think you&#8217;ll find that &#8220;hijack&#8221; means to illegally stop and commandeer a vehicle. Good luck with limiting your conversation &#8211; let alone the world&#8217;s &#8211; to original meanings of words! Seriously, being gay &#8211; or GLBTI, or homosexual, if you prefer &#8211; is not a &#8220;lifestyle&#8221;. It&#8217;s people&#8217;s lives, the lives they were born to.</p>
<p>And yes, the &#8220;gay talk&#8221; is mostly as easy as everyone says. Life and love is mostly this way, but sometimes that way, with no judgement. And after eleven years of experience bringing up two boys in a home with two mums, I could count the negative experiences we&#8217;ve had on the fingers of one hand, and there&#8217;s been nothing getting to know us hasn&#8217;t fixed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mia Freedman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mia Freedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:05:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yep - fair points both.
x]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yep &#8211; fair points both.<br />
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		<title>By: Anonanon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonanon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2012 06:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While I applaud you Mia, for broaching this subject, I had a couple of comments. Not one of my lesbian friends likes to be referred to as &#039;gay&#039;- they term themselves as lesbians. The term &#039;gay&#039; tends to evoke an umbrella concept, when my lesbian friends have experienced different types of prejudice. Just as the average woman receives a different type of prejudice different from men. It&#039;s currently &#039;cool&#039; on popular mainstream American sitcoms or shows to have a male gay character or couple, especially who are parenting but I struggle to think of mainstream lesbians parenting on like shows. My second concern is the final point that you quoted from Jerry Mahony&#039;s site re &#039;everyone ends up with the right parents for them&#039;. That is a lovely comment for a functional family, regardless of the sexuality of the parents, but stings for people who have experienced backgrounds of abuse. Given my many years working with traumatised young people who have sometimes survived their parents abuse and sometimes haven&#039;t, I&#039;m loathe to encourage a view that the young people ended up with the &#039;right&#039; parents. I know the young people I have worked with would read that comment and feel their background was their fault.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I applaud you Mia, for broaching this subject, I had a couple of comments. Not one of my lesbian friends likes to be referred to as &#8216;gay&#8217;- they term themselves as lesbians. The term &#8216;gay&#8217; tends to evoke an umbrella concept, when my lesbian friends have experienced different types of prejudice. Just as the average woman receives a different type of prejudice different from men. It&#8217;s currently &#8216;cool&#8217; on popular mainstream American sitcoms or shows to have a male gay character or couple, especially who are parenting but I struggle to think of mainstream lesbians parenting on like shows. My second concern is the final point that you quoted from Jerry Mahony&#8217;s site re &#8216;everyone ends up with the right parents for them&#8217;. That is a lovely comment for a functional family, regardless of the sexuality of the parents, but stings for people who have experienced backgrounds of abuse. Given my many years working with traumatised young people who have sometimes survived their parents abuse and sometimes haven&#8217;t, I&#8217;m loathe to encourage a view that the young people ended up with the &#8216;right&#8217; parents. I know the young people I have worked with would read that comment and feel their background was their fault.</p>
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