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kid at window 380x215 Is it unfair to raise kids in an apartment?

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My 4 year old son lives in an apartment. A unit. Or if you want to use the pejorative, “a flat”. On the third floor, up six small flights of stairs, far away from a lush green backyard. He has no cricket pitch, no cubby house, and no place to make mud pies.

We live in a beautiful old corner building built in the 1920s. It has high ceilings, polished floors, atmosphere to burn. But it is on a busy road, opposite a train station, above the shops. Not a place where kids would’ve lived a generation ago. No patch of lawn with sheets flapping on the hills hoist or a jacaranda tree dropping its blossoms. Our outside world is concrete and bitumen, with a couple of trees planted along the old-fashioned shopping strip. Our only backyard – a small, dank shared courtyard. Just the other day my husband spied some of the local wildlife lurking.  A dead rat –  he said as he snapped on the rubber gloves to  get rid of it – “as big as a cat”. Kid friendly? Not so much.

Before you snort, what a pack of w*nkers, pretending to live in New York when you live in Oz, I admit that in Australia, apartment dwelling can seem weird in a country with such great weather. But aside from the joy of not having a soul-crushing mortgage, at the moment, I take a perverse pleasure our small family unit living in a unit. Because not that long ago that they were thought as rather immoral. In 1920, when Australian poet Kenneth Slessor was a young man, he rented a flat. And In Slessor’s words, his mother believed that was  “only one step away from announcing that he was going to shack up with a prostitute, because flats in those days were looked upon as evil, something really evil.”

Although that view seems old fashioned today, there’s still a view that apartment living isn’t suitable for children. And if you don’t live near to a good local park, green spaces or something like a skate park across the road, which is our lucky situation, it can definitely be tough. But the reality is that with housing affordability at record low levels, apartment dwelling kids are a much more common group of children in Australian cities. It’s happened fast, in less than a generation. When I went to put my little boy’s name down at the local school,  there was a problem. “Your building doesn’t appear on our map” said the woman at the front office. Yes, because in the 1950s when the local area maps were drawn up for schools in NSW, no children lived in apartments, or above the shops. Now, there are 9 kids in our building, most under school age.

For my husband and I, because we live in a city where property prices are crazy, we could only afford a house if we moved ‘further out’ – to far suburbia. But to lose the luxury of being able to walk everywhere – to the supermarket, the fruit shop, the local primary school  – and to the train to take us to the city – at the moment, for us that’s too much of a trade off. For us, the thought of hours spent commuting each day would drain a lot of the colour from life. And it would be hours. Houses are so expensive where we live,  could start looking at around 20 kilometres from our suburb to find something we could afford. So right now we’re choosing what the planners call “walkability” over more space. But we have asked ourselves the question many times about our flat dwelling life. Is it worth it – and are we short-changing our little guy?

Without being able to retort ‘just go outside!’ to “I’m bored!”, the reality is that daily trawl to the local park takes a lot of effort. And like most kids, my son has the energy of a small freight train. So there’s been many late afternoons with our 3 year old neighbour at the ‘witching hour’  with 2 boys clambering in and out of his bedroom window  (an interior window!) and leaping up and down under a tent made of sheets.  Because I just can’t be bothered to drag him to that damn park.* A poor substitute for climbing a tree or doing cartwheels in the grass, right? Probably.

But the great part of living where we do is that our little boy is a part of something. Because we can walk everywhere, all the shop owners know him. He’s showered with free bread rolls, gifts of apples, and the lovely woman who runs the cafe in our building rushes out with a tiny teddy whenever he walks past with me. Sometimes it can even feel too much. As my mother described it when she visits  from Queensland – “he’s like the local rock star!” But aside from all the attention and smiles, he is getting a behind the scenes tutorial on life.

He understands that the Saturday supplements arrive on Friday and pile up outside the newsagent. He sees the left over bones being collected from the butcher by a gothic looking, open truck full of bones – enough bones to inspire lifelong vegetarianism. He watches the wood man stacking up the fuel for the wood-fired pizza oven at the pizza restaurants. He the council workers fixing the power lines, and the unwanted stuff piling up outside Vinnies. We spend a lot of time walking around the village doing our errands. We know our neighbours, and we are friends with some of them – and their children.  On the best days it’s like a larger version of Sesame Street.

But even in our urban life things can feel claustrophobic. If my little guy chooses to have a tantrum in the middle of the footpath, people remember it months later.  “Remember when he had a huge meltdown right in front of the gift shop?” Oooh yes, I do. I was there, dragging him up the street where everyone knows us,  stifling a primal scream of ‘stop looking at us! Haven’t you ever seen a 4 year old lose it before?’

Sometimes I wish for him a childhood like mine, with an empty block next door to roam in, and hours and hours of outside time, riding our bikes with gangs of neighbourhood children with no sense of time and no parents hovering. If we got hungry we’d go home for food, or as Mum described it – ‘you just came home when it got dark’. The suburban freedom of a 1970s childhood was a glorious thing in many ways. But unless you live in the country, that sort of life is over for many of our kids. It’s car-ferrying all the way, to and from school and activities, at least while they’re young.

His childhood is already quite different. Crafting is big. Jimmy Giggle is also big. We love our neighbours, and we leave the door ajar so the boys can run in and out between our places across the hall. But rainy days can feel interminable, and like being stuck in a large-sized box with the energiser bunny. Sometimes the dream of a fibro house on a battleaxe block does seem a better alternative. But at the moment, we’re up for this life.

Because kids all over the world grow up in apartments and turn out fine. And these days a lot of people in Australia are working with less space for their families – and bringing them up without the luxury of having extra bedrooms, or a media room, or a pool. If you want to buy a house, or an apartment, you have to work within your means. And sometimes that means smaller than you’d like.

*(and of course we do take him to the park. He rides his bike.)

Nicola Harrison is a Sydney based radio producer for the ABC.

What do you think? Are apartments for children? Did you grow up in one?

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228 Comments so far

  1. Michelle

    I can’t believe the author hasn’t mentioned safety.

    I’m reading this after just seeing my neighbours 4 year old tumble down the back steps of our apartment building. She’s fine and I guess it could have happened in a two storey house but still. I live on the second floor of an art deco apartment with my 6 and 8 year old sons and while I love the style, the high ceilings, big rooms etc, it is very difficult living in an apartment with children. The landlord wouldn’t let us put screens in any of the windows so I was paranoid for years about opening them.

    I’ll never forget the day my son was swinging on the railing to the staircase while I took his brother inside to get something we’d forgotten, the railing came loose and it was basically a miracle he didn’t fall down onto the tiled floor one storey below. Getting shopping upstairs while wrangling kids, dealing with all the doors and making sure we don’t get locked out or in an internal space, as we have done on more than one occasion. It has it’s trials.

    I don’t have a balcony and think I would be a nervous wreck if I did. I love where I live but it’s far from the rose-tinted picture of inner-urban living. Would much prefer to have a small terrace or semi with kids but I’m a single mother so cannot afford it.

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    • Anonymous

      I don’t think apartments are any less safe than a house in the suburbs. Kid’s in the country can climb a tree and fall down, or jump off the roof (when my family moved into our first house, it only took my brother a week to break his leg doing this). If you live in a double story house, they can just as easily clamber out an open window as climb over a balcony barrier.

      Plus, not being in the city makes you much more reliant on cars, and statistically kids are much more likely to be seriously injured in a car accident than from any kind of apartment related injury.

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    • guest for today

      Everything you just mentioned could happen at my house. I also have the issue of wrangling groceries and children up stairs to get into the house. I have locked myself out of the house (and car) on more than one occasion due to doors slamming shut (most recently on my way to work on Saturday). I mortgage and dont rent so while I am allowed to put screens on we can’t afford it as due to heritage laws they have to be a certain type. If I was renting the house it also wouldnt be allowed. Windows stay locked shut and the stairs are very closely monitored! None of what you mentioned is due to appartment living.

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  2. Craig

    Having a back yard does not automatically mean a crippling mortgage. We bought our house in Melbourne for $350k in a decent area (no drug dealers on the corner) and only 15-20 minute drive to the city.

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    • Kate Richards

      That sounds wonderful Craig – especially the no drug dealer part :) I must admit I am not overly familiar with Melbourne and the property prices but it sounds like a more family-friendly city than Sydney. While we can get decent house prices not too far out, the congestion and lack of public transport in Sydney means that a trip which should take 20 mins will take 1.5 hours between 8-10am and 4-7pm. Glad that your family have found a good balance without being owned by the bank!

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      • Anonymous

        Melbourne is cheaper than Sydney, great public transport too. It’s still bloody expensive though, I’d be very itnerested to know where Craig lives actually…?

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        • Craig

          Taylors Lakes. There are some dodgy surrounding suburbs, but if you choose carefully you can get a nice place in Taylors Lakes or Keilor for a reasonable price. Also because it is only a minute from the Calder fwy which goes directly to the City it takes me no more time to drive to work that some of the inner city suburbs I have lived where you need to need to take back streets to get anywhere.

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          • toby

            Taylors Lake is 23 KM from Melbourne CBD. I seriously doubt it takes you 15 minutes to get into the city. Perhaps at midnight when there is no traffic. I live 6km from Melbourne CBD and it takes over 30 minutes to get into the CBD in peak hour traffic.

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    • guest

      I lived 5kms from the city when I was in Sydney. It took 5 minutes longer to walk than catch a bus due to the congestion and the walk usually took about 45-50 minutes. (keep in mind you need to stop every few minutes for traffic lights!)

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    • carohutchison

      Craig how long ago did you buy? That sounds crazy cheap for current Melbourne prices.

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    • Jess

      Craig, come on, just when did you buy this house? I live in Melbourne and a $350K house 15 min from the city simply doesn’t exist. I didn’t know $350K house existed anywhere, even if you’re willing to go a 100km from the city. Melbourne is crazy expensive.

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      • Craig

        Bought 3 years ago. Current value is probably $400k. It is hard to find comparable property on any of the real estate websites to show because they don’t list the price for most of them.

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      • Anonymous

        I know several people who bought about $350k houses in Melbourne only 2 or 3 years ago, but about 35-40km from the city. I thought everyone had to go that far out to find an affordable house.

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        • Anonymous

          Taylors Lakes is not a 15-20 min drive from the city. It’s an outer suburb with sterile housing estates at least 40 min from the city. St Kilda is an inner city suburb 15-20 min from the city. You can buy a house from at least $700 000 plus

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          • Craig

            Clearly you have not been to Taylors Lakes. There are new housing estates around the area but the ‘old’ area we live in was established around 1980 so is nothing like the barren housing estates you are thinking of. It takes us 2 minutes to get on the freeway and from there we can be in the city in 20 minutes. When I lived in Kew it took me just as long to get in the city because there was no direct fwy and a dozen sets of traffic lights.

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            • Anonymous

              Craig see my post above. You are are dreaming. I do love how people who live 20 KM + out of the city think they are inner city.

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  3. theboysmum

    I think each parent does what they can for their kids. Its not our place to judge and say thay its terrible he lives in an apartment. We are considering living in a shed on my parents property while we build our “dream” house… imagine what could be said about that!

    I say that he sounds like he has parents that love him dearly and do the best they can. Just the fact that they are aware of how their living arrangements might be affecting him shows how much they love and care for him. That’s enough for any child. I wish I could remember the quote form yesterdays article… something along the lines of “just to show them unconditional and complete love is enough.”

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  4. Lulu

    I grew up in a small house on a large (half-acre) block, so there was quite a lot of garden for running around in, as well as trees to climb etc. I feel sorry for kids who live in the typical ‘McMansions’, because they all seem to have tiny gardens & no trees.

    I think city living (in an apartment or otherwise) would have a lot of things for kids that I missed out on, living in an outer suburb. And while my generation might not have grown up in apartments, earlier generations often did.

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    • Junebug

      McMansions not only have no garden but they’re also isolated from other houses and often a car ride from public parks etc. We have so many neighbours where we live so that e.g. other kids just pop in for spontaneous playdates, neighbours chat on the doorstep, etc. Plus with no car spot, we bump into people we know on our way to school, the shops, bus-stop, etc. Kids are probably more likely to play indoors in a McMansion than in a house with a garden or an inner-city place.

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      • Abby

        Are you kidding? We live in a four bedroom house near the Blue Mountains surrounded by “McMansions” and there are five parks, sports fields, 2 community centres and shops within a five minute walk. All the neighbourhood kids play outside together in the fresh air and we grow veges in the garden, have play equipment in the yard and plan on getting some chooks soon for fresh eggs. Our mortgage is less than rent for an apartment near to the city so I’m lucky enough to be able to stay home with my autistic four year old. We have early intervention services within a five minute drive and my husband commutes to work in the city in less than an hour on a mountains express train after parking for free at our local station. When I went to uni at Kensington my commute was quicker than my friends
        from inner city suburbs. Each to their own but gosh don’t make assumptions about a lifestyle unless you’ve lived it.

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        • Junebug

          Woah settle down! I HAVE lived it. I’ve lived in semi-rural, rural and suburban areas. On a half-acre, in a country town and on a quarter-acre. I’ve only recently moved to the city less than 2 years ago. Not making assumptions. Speaking from my observations with some added speculation. Hence saying “probably more likely”.

          We seem to have different definitions of ‘McMansion’. If your yard is big enough for a vege garden, I don’t think it’s a McMansion. It’s a big house! Big houses are great. ‘McMansion’ refers to a lifestyle where people build houses boundary to boundary. The occupants rely on technology in their games rooms and home cinemas for entertainment and go from house to garage through an internal door and back again.

          I think there’s a touch of generalisation that’s understood in the use of the term ‘McMansion’. (Just as we’re generalising about life in inner-city apartments.) There’s always going to be someone who is an exception to any generalisation. And people are always going to think that exception is themselves!!

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          • Abby

            Nope, if that’s what a McMansion contains then that’s what we’re surrounded by, and that’s our house minus the home theatre I guess (we preferred to make a sensory room for our son). We don’t have a massive yard but have turned a small courtyard into a vege garden (using a plan for a balcony based one!). Again you’ve presumed to know how people live their lives. Just because people have large houses with technology doesn’t mean that they spend their lives chained to them and never get outside or interact with others. Rather than being “the exception” we are actually pretty much like most families in our community. Perhaps just describe your own situation rather than incorrectly “speculating” about the situations of others next time.

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            • Junebug

              Ugly defensive attitude aside, I maintain that the term encapsulates a particular lifestyle of people who hold a particular set of values. You’re right, I don’t know your particular community. But nor do you know mine.

              We watch people move into the hills, knock down literally every tree on their block, build boundary to boundary, cover the rest with paving and maybe a small patch of front lawn, drive in and out of their garages in 4WDs and let their dogs bark all day. Good on them if they have, unbeknownst to me, a small vege patch in their tiny paved courtyard. But even if they did, it doesn’t offset all the rest of it. I can tell you, their kids aren’t outside playing. And if they’re down at the community centre, it’s not a 5-minute walk away.

              So “speculating” that they’re probably more likely to be in their home theatre than in their vege patch is not an outrageous position!

              Perhaps ‘McMansion’ just means ‘big house’ but the ‘Mc’ is a reference that suggests to me that the term is reserved for an associated set of a values. I can’t imagine that someone who lives as consciously as you seem to would come under that umbrella. But whatever you say? Maybe the term is one of self-mocking endearment. But to me ‘McMansion’ is a critical term.

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        • Anonymous

          The McMansion lifestyle gets unfairly dumped upon, in my opinion. There are a lot of pluses that are ignored in the general debate, and for many families it’s a good option.

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        • Anonymous

          I think the responses on this seem to be all about assumptions about people in “McMansions” and the west.

          :(

          Sucks that this is always the pov of the “other half” of Sydney. Since moving here, I have noticed there is a huge divide in class and the way people think about / treat people in different areas.

          It’s pretty horrible really.

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          • Anonymous

            I agree. I live in the west (north west, really) about 40 kms from the city and I don’t recognise the stereotypes that seem so prevalent about people in the west. I live here because that’s where I can afford to live. Everyone I know out here is like me – educated, working hard. I even like it out here – the people are far more accepting and less judgemental than in other parts of the city.

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  5. Junebug

    We live in the inner-city and loads of kids grow up in apartments. But there’s heaps of public space e.g. parks, museums, markets, etc to make up for it. They just have a different lifestyle. I grew up in the suburbs and everyone played in their backyard. But my son has playdates at the public pool, playground, bike track, etc. We moved when he was 3 years old and he’s actually happier in the city. He loves standing on the balcony and watching the world go by.

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  6. Dee of Adelaide

    Australians are so narrow minded when it comes to living arrangements.

    I admit I don’t know if I could manage my two in an apartment, but we have done all sorts of things including living with my father and sister in order to have affordable housing in a location we wanted etc.

    Kids all over the world live happily in all sorts of homes, sizes, arrangements.

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  7. Natasha

    I feel sad for him. Poor little man. Make an effort and take him to the park, he needs sunshine and exercise.

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    • RandomMon

      She says at the end that ‘she does take him to the park and he rides his bike’. Sounds like he still has loads of fun. Some kids grow up in the burbs, some in the country and some in the inner city. Different doesn’t mean bad, just different.

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    • Lana

      Let’s play the point and not the person. Thanks

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      • RandomMon

        I’m not sure how I feel, a little bit shocked or puzzled maybe that my comment has been deleted. I love Mamamia and have only just started commenting on things. I always try to be respectful to others. My comment was a response to an anonymous poster (post was also deleted) and if anything I was just adding to my point in my comment above and to the discussion of topic of the article in general, which I enjoyed reading I might add. I was not in anyway ‘attacking’ or argumentative.

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        • Lana

          Sorry Random Mom – you were not at all abusive – the only reason that your comment was deleted was because it was in response to a comment that was rude (and therefore deleted) so it just never didn’t make sense.

          Sorry about that

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    • Jess

      Is this the same Natasha who thinks that working mothers are devil’s work? Always so insightful and always feeling sorry for anyone who is living a lifestyle different to the one she approves.

      He is sunshine deprived? Did you even read the article or just the headline?

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    • Girl

      This little boy does not need your pity. He obviously has wonderful parents who want the very best for him and he’s growing up in what sounds like a lovely, interesting and diverse community. Save your pity (which sounds more like narrow minded judgement) for kids that actually need it.

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