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Sometimes breastfeeding is not best.  Even for the baby.   Author, Emma Grey writes:

My ten-week old baby is being fed formula instead of breast milk.

For six weeks, I spent several hours a day expressing breast milk for him. After several trips to the lactation consultant, several hundred dollars in hired equipment and much thought, I decided not to.

End of story.

Except that, if this forum reflects my experience offline, it won’t be. A few strangers – who know nothing of our circumstances other than what they see at face value in the paragraph above – will find themselves so rattled by my choice to bottle feed that they may not even read the rest of this article before posting a pro-breast feeding comment that will make a lot of good mothers feel awful.

Their prejudice might masquerade as helpfulness, the way it often does when we stampede, uninvited, into another person’s reality.  They might share success stories and compare sacrifices.

They would impart a lot of advice – explaining why breast is best, and how breast-feeding problems can be fixed.  They might point out that it’s not too late to re-lactate if I want to change my mind, and why wouldn’t I want to? Don’t I want what is best for my child?

I do.  That’s why he’s being bottle fed.

As with many aspects of parenting, the breast versus bottle debate is a hornet’s nest.  Some people are tempted to assist mums like me to pull our socks up, not knowing how hard it really is, or anything about the larger picture in which our feeding is one part.

Perhaps reading this article might save someone the trouble of approaching my family in shopping centres and asking me why I’m not breast feeding, as happened several times to a friend of mine who has a rare medical condition that meant her milk never came in – not with any of her five children, despite her dearly wanting to breast feed.

It might provide an alternative outlet for telling a family member that breast-fed babies develop better eyesight than bottle-fed babies, as another friend was informed while formula-feeding the baby she adores in front of a large gathering of people whose opinions she values.

I know a woman who was told by her sister-in-law, after her milk dried up due to a course of antibiotics, that only ‘real mothers’ breast feed.

Really?

bottle baby1 She chose to bottle feed her baby. This is why.

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If there is anything any dyed-in-the-wool breast feeders would like to get off their fully-functioning chests, I can take it!  I had post-natal depression after my second child, but I’m fairly sure I haven’t got it this time, so comments about my choice to formula feed probably won’t do as much damage to my emotional wellbeing as they might to a mother in more fragile circumstances.

For the record, I think that breast feeding is an ideal.  In many, many cases, the ideal is reached and babies receive wonderful benefits.  In many other cases, for myriad reasons, breast is second best to a method that sustains a baby and supports a mother’s mental and physical health.

Sometimes ‘those who can’ cling to the ideal at all costs.  They offer their views using much the same technique as some of the more ‘hands-on’ lactation consultants use to offer our nipples to our screaming newborns, while we look on in horror and lose confidence in our ability to raise the baby we love more than life itself.

The president of my local breast feeding association was one such person.  She successfully breast-fed three of her children for the World Health Organisation’s recommended two years each, claiming there wasn’t one challenge that couldn’t be rectified in the breast feeding department, only to prove herself wrong fourth time around.

When I was in the labour ward recently, the mother in the next delivery suite was breast feeding her three-year-old between contractions.  She wasn’t able to breast feed her new baby as a result.  Where does this motivation come from?

I hope the clinic nurse I saw a month ago will read this.  She told me I had done the wrong thing.  I should have persisted with breast feeding, when my child was not only failing to thrive, but losing weight at every weekly weigh-in, and when the paediatrician warned that continued attempts at breast feeding must stop as internal organs were at risk due to lack of sustenance. The nurse passed it off as a growth spurt.  My milk supply would have picked up if I’d tried longer, she said.

Ironically, she wasn’t talking about the thriving, happy, contented baby that I was bottle feeding right in front of her.  She was talking about his ten-year-old sister, who she’s never met.

She didn’t know that I’d tearfully given up breast feeding on that occasion, seven months in, on specialist advice, or that I’d spent four days in a specialist medical centre, desperately trying to increase supply under the guidance of health experts, drinking a ghastly concoction of fenugreek and other lactation stimulants and trying everything I could to continue, before reluctantly admitting, along with an entire medical team, that I would move to formula.  Why she thought I needed to justify this turn of events a decade later is anyone’s guess.

Which brings me to my eldest child.  I had it all: cracked and bleeding nipples, thrush, several debilitating bouts of mastitis and a baby who was born a little early, before the sucking reflex kicked in.  Nevertheless, she was fully breast-fed for the first twelve months of her life and it was one of the most rewarding experiences I’ve had.

Good for me! Wasn’t I clever and dedicated?  Ah, those were the days, when I was a ‘real mother’… Breast is best, you know.

Except when bottle feeding is best.  As it is now for my son.  End of story.

Mia writes: “I breast fed my first baby and it was great. He never had to have any formula. My second? Breast-feeding was a disaster. I got mastitis 7 times in a row and was on anti-biotics for an insane 70 days in 6 months. Even though I have never judged other women for their choices to breast or bottle feed, I judged myself so harshly, that I battled on despite all logical indications that it Just. Wasn’t. Working. For. Me. Or. Her.

I finally waved the white flag at 6 months and weaned and my health, my baby’s happiness and my own all improved dramatically. I was nervous about my third baby. How would it go? He was a dream and I never had a single problem. It was a lovely experience and taught me that not only are no two women the same, no two babies are the same. Have an open mind. For yourself and for others. We all KNOW that in a perfect world, breast is best. I don’t think we need labels and advertising campaigns to drill that home any further. But sometimes it doesn’t work.

And it’s important to be able to recognise that breast-feeding is not always the best thing for you or your baby. I think we need to support each other more in our own individual circumstances instead of madly trying to convince everyone to do what worked for us.”

Did you breast or bottle feed? Were you bottle fed or breast fed – has it made any impact at all on the person that you are today?

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    Lucyloo

    Breastfed 1st child 8mo then started weaning and he was fully bottlefd by about 12 mo. Breastfed 2nd child 4mo. I thought he was feeding beautifully, slept lots and was a very chilled bub. Turns out he was, as described by GP, a “Romanian” bub – wasn’t receiving enough nutrients to sustain him. I expressed, ate/drank/inhaled lactation aids, did everything possible and gave up 4 weeks later after 4 weeks of solid weight loss. 1st 2 weeks of being bottlefed and he was like a newborn again, waking up every 2hrs. He was so hungry. Breastfed 3rd bub 5mo when he started losing weight and I shifted straight to bottle. If you can do it, breast is great. If you can’t, bottle feed and be happy that you are doing the right thing for you and your baby.

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    BRJ

    I breastfed my firstborn for 7 months and it wasn’t a great experience despite all the support I was given in hospital etc. He fed with a nipple shield for 16 weeks with the midwives and breastfeeding specialist telling me he was a just an unsettled and challenging child. I questioned this as my boy was beautiful except at feeding time. In the end I gave up breastfeeding after my milk dried up and I returned to work. I have no guilt- he is a gorgeous, smart and healthy child who makes me proud every day.
    With my second child I felt way more confident with the breastfeeding however it did not go so well. I was fainting from the mastitis and at points could not even hold him on my own due to the pain. I remember one night bursting into tears as soon as he woke due to fear of the pain and sitting crying as I fed him cause it hurt so much. The specialist told me I was doing everything right and it was at this point I realised it wasnt working for me and was actually impacting my attachment with my son. I have battled depression for years and it was difficult for me too see that my mood was impacting my bond with my son but acknowledging this was the best thing I did. I went back on meds for the first time in years and could finally look at my son with a smile on my face and love in my hear. We have such a great relationship now. I judged myself so much about stopping breastfeeding despite the fact that I have supported my sister to not breastfed. everyone needs to make the best decisions for themself and not worry about what other people think, I myself am I bottlefed baby without significant health issues and score a higher IQ than my husband who was fully breastfed. I

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    Bec

    If there was an Australian Bottlefeeding Association just like there is for breastfeeding, I would be president!!!!!
    You are totally right, it is right for you and your son- end of story!!!

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      jen

      Hit the spot! I’ve just had a beautiful healthy son who was born 7lbs 10 oz and I’ve bottlefed him from day… No problems, gaining weight in the 50 percentile… I had a hard time with the inlaws making me feel like second class citizen because of my choice to bottle feed… I told my husband that his family are still living in the 50′s, it’s our choice how we feed our baby and she needs to mind her own business! Old farts like my husbands family need to understand that not everyone can or wants to breastfeed formula has come along way with it’s nutrients… My mother had 7 kids, we were all bottle fed and none of us have had any health problems!!1

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    kate

    My daughter has a cleft palate so breastfeeding was impossible. Therefore I’ve been expressing to feed her breastmilk for the last 7 1/2 months. For the first few months this meant pumping 6-7 times a day (and night), added on to the time it actually took to feed her the milk.

    I do feel proud that I’ve made it this far as it’s been a hell of a lot of work. However I do wonder if I’ll look back on it and wonder why I killed myself with all the extra hassle when I’m sure she would have done just fine on formula – that is, if I could have dealt with the guilt trip of “you’re not a good mother if your baby doesn’t have breastmilk”.

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      Kate!

      I did that too Kate – round the clock pumping for month after month. I had to take drugs to get some milk happening, and I had a life-threatening reaction to them. Unhappy baby, plus no sleep led to depression.

      On one memorable occasion, where I coordinated a dragged-out pumping session with a bout of gastro (me), all the time listening to my baby scream, I then dropped the precious milk and watched it soak into the carpet. I will never forget the feeling of complete hopelessness I had.

      Once I switched to folrmula everyone got a lot happier.

      I wish I hadnt been so sucked in by the breastfeeding nazis.

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    Big Red

    *big, huge, massive sigh*
    My wish for this Christmas is that EVERYONE back off Mothers, old and new.
    If a baby is healthy, happy and gaining weight and Mum is healthy and happy then does it really matter how bub is getting fed?
    Come on Women, back off the “my way is best, you’re a bad Mother” platform and embrace everyone’s differences.

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      Sarah

      What a great Christmas wish! I think it may be one of mine too ;o)

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    klm1910

    Myself and my five siblings were bottle fed, there is nothing wrong (health wise) with any of us. My darling mum, when a midwife suggested that she should try to breast feed her TRIPLET sons (with a 3.5 yr old and 18 month old in the house as well), replied, “What do you want me to do? Grow another one?” :-)

    I had enormous psychological issues about breast-feeding (bovine analogies abounded in my mind), but did try for a few days. It just wasn’t going to work, I was getting stressed, my son was upset, my husband was worried about both of us. My very sensible mid-wife said, “Do you want to keep trying?” When I sobbed for five minutes and then said that I couldn’t face it, she just said, “Come with me to the nursery and I will show you how to make up a bottle.” No dramas, no fussing and no questioning where I was at. She was awesome!!!

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    Celia

    Choice is one thing, and I don’t know your story personally. There’s no use arguing, right? I wasn’t there.
    In general, I think a lot of mothers who are forced to bottlefeed due to circumstances are wronged – as are their babies. Because the support still isn’t very good, nor very structured. Many babies could have breastfed with better support, correct information, sound medical practices.

    A little detail that makes me frown in your story is that a mother who nursed her three-year-old, was “because of that?” not able to feed her newborn.
    This is something I really wonder about. The medical consensus on tandem feeding is that it helps start up milk supply sooner, increases the supply (it’s not like you have a set amount in your breasts, as I’m sure you know), and helps the baby feed sooner.
    I feel that part really discredits your story (which is otherwise personal, so why insert that tidbit?)

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    Anon Mum of 1

    Wow, this article and all the comments have been really great to read. Its amazing how strongly we all feel about motherhood and how we should go about looking after our babies. It really comes down to whatever is best for the baby and mother. They are the team that have to work together and they need to BOTH be happy and healthy.

    I am a mum of a 11 week old little girl. I had every intention to breastfeed – I bought all the feeding bras etc (gosh those things are expensive) and was so excited about bonding with my new baby in such a personal way. I did lots of research and tried to prepare myself as much as I could to make breastfeeding as easy as possible.

    After my c-section my new baby latched on whilst I was in recovery. I was thrilled – at least she knew what she was doing. They left me to feed her for a good 1/2 hour. It didn’t hurt but felt a bit uncomfortable. I went on for the rest of the day feeding her for sometimes an hour at a time. I had lots of trouble latching her on (noone tells you how coordinated you have to be) but once she was on she was a ferocious sucker. It was her enthusiasm and what we later discovered as incorrect latching on that caused me so much grief.

    I continued breast feeding for the next 5 days. It became excrutiatingly painful as the days went on and no matter how much help I got it just didn’t seem to work. 5 days felt like 5 weeks! I got to the point where I just couldn’t do it anymore. I was trying to recover from my major operation and come to terms with being a Mum and I began to dread every time she woke up as we would have to go through the painful round of feeding and crying again. What sort of Mum dreads her baby waking up?!

    Early one morning after buckets of tears and lots of stress I decided to change to formula. I was struggling enough with breast feeding with the professional help of the midwives at hospital – I would have fallen apart at home. I felt relieved when I finally made the decision but at the same time a bit cheated that something that should have been so natural could be so difficult. Noone tells you before hand that for some people it doesn’t work.

    Yes, I’m sure I could have persevered through the pain and bleeding and made breastfeeding work – but would I have been in a very good psychological state?

    My baby girl is thriving now – I’m loving every minute with her and enjoying being a Mum. Yes, its annoying sometimes waiting to heat up a bottle when she is hungry and crying but I know I’m doing what it best for the both of us.

    I have received a few funny comments and looks from people about formula feeding. I just say that I tried it and it didn’t work for me. When people see my baby anyway they can see that formula is obviously not doing her any harm as she is chubby, giggly and gorgeous.

    It does have benefits as well – you aren’t chained to the house and the baby. Your husband can feed the baby. You can enjoy a few wines and you don’t have to watch what you eat so much and I don’t have to get my boobs out in public!

    Next time I’ll try breastfeeding again but I’m not going to beat myself up if it doesn’t work. Ultimately its my decision and I’ll do what’s best for me and my baby.

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      Meg

      My story is nearly identical! The midwives in hospital nicknamed my baby boy “the piranha” because of his fierce sucking. He literally took pieces out of me! The combination of engorgement and red raw bleeding nipples was the most painful thing I have ever experienced. I have flat nipples which meant that in spite of his very strong latch, he was unable to draw in the nipple far enough so that it didn’t hurt. He was also so strong that I often needed another person to help hold him in the right position to latch on. 2 weeks in, I gave up – I was an emotional wreck, my 3 year old twins were distraught at losing their mummy and it Just. Didn’t. Work.
      Now he’s on formula and he’s an absolute dream of a baby. Couldn’t be better and we couldn’t be happier. Sometimes, bottle IS best.

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        Suz

        Wow ladies – that is just like reading my own experience!! I also had flat nipples and a ‘piranha’ (as named by the midwives!). I would sit and count the minutes until I knew my newborn would wake up DREADING the excrutiating pain I would go through…..it was so so hard for her to latch onto nonexistent nipples and when she fed she would have blood dribbling down her chin due to the carnage wreaked on my nipples but i persevered as a ‘good mum’ HAD to breastfeed. I would stay awake at night when I should have been catching up on MUCH NEEDED sleep reading books trying to figure out how to get things ‘right’. Finally when she was 10 days old I saw a lactation consultant and she said my nipples were the most damaged she had seen in her 20 years experience. Now I can look back and ask why I would have pushed myself to such insanity but as a new mum it is such scary unchartered territory, and I was sure in my sleep deprived hysteria that if I fed her from a bottle she would have a myriad of problems for life as a result. When I finally got ‘permission’ to rest from breastfeeding I pumped as much as I could and supplemented with formula and mum and bub’s happiness increased 500%. If only I could go back in time and tell myself from day 1 that you can try your best but it just doesn’t work as planned for people and that IS OK!! I now have the happiest, most beatutiful anf contented 20 month old ever :) :) And thank you so much for writing this piece :) :)

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    belindavogels

    My daughter was born via emergency c section, and when we were finally united, she was hungry.. She latched perfectly first time, and I will always remember that look of contentment on her face.
    What I will also always remember is that the next day I had no milk to give her, and was accused by the nurse of abusing my baby by not feeding it, where she marched me and my daughter down to the nursery, made up a bottle of formula and told me to give it to her… Everytime from then on, when my daughter became hungry, a nurse would try and shove my poor screaming daughters head onto my breast, where I was made to feel like a failure because I couldnt care for my baby. My mum visited and told me that she had not been breasfed (my nan had no milk), I had not been breastfed (mum had no milk) and now I was in the same situation. My mother in law?? She told me to get over it, and listen to the nurses as breastfeeding is the only way and everyone can do it… The nurses even brought in a pshychologist to see me as I had been so teary (if they had been understanding maybe they would know why I had been so teary).. All I wanted to do was go home and care for my baby my way, but they thought I was incompetent and wouldnt dischange us until feeding was established… One night I found a nice nurse on duty and explained to her, that when my daughter became hungry I was going to offer her the breast to try to encourage milk, then offer her formula, and in between feeds express.. Finally I was allowed to go home!!!! I spent the first 12 weeks of my daughters life wasting time expressing (about 60mls a day) when we could have been bonding.. In those 12 weeks my daughter suffered from severe stomach cramps, and I discovered the cause.. The breast milk I had been giving her.. It was then I made the decision to formula feed, and while it was a decision filled with guilt, I felt free to now just enjoy being a mummy and enjoy my daughter… While this experience was horrid, I have learnt from it, and know things will be different next time!

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    Jo

    Hello
    I wanted the perfect birth – drug free…….I got it boths times. 9 pounds and 10 pounds. Aren’t I fantastic? No, it doesnt matter. The healthy baby is all that matters……I was a bit slow to learn this…….

    I then wanted the perfect feeding….breast ofcourse…..life wasnt so kind to me. My milk never satisfied my kids and as a result they screamed and screamed from hunger. After months of listening to consultants who told me I should stick with it, I realised that its actually just very very simple…ready for it…….”JUST FEED YOUR BABY” After my boobs were empltied I topped up with a bottle after nearly every feed (little piggies).

    I look back on my self hate and my guilt and the feelings of failure I felt and I realise now that it was all such wasted energy and so unfair…they are such beautiful healthy children and I did a wonderful job. Real mothers do two things
    1. meet their childrens basic needs (water, food, shelter)
    2. LOVE their children.

    Life isnt black and white….there is no perfect birth, perfect feeding, perfect baby, perfect childhood or perfect life. It just ‘is’ and its our job to roll with the punches and stay confident and positive for ourselves and our families

    Mia, it would be really good if you could change your ‘breastfeeding’ heading under ‘parenting’ to just ‘feeding’ It involves everyone, everyone meeting their children’s needs and trying their best.

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    Hugz

    My first attempt at breast feeding was a trainwreck. I was genuinely concerned my nipples were going to fall off because they hurt so much. I cried for 7 days straight, I had mastitis so bad my doc was moments away from admitting me to hospital for IV antibiotics. My daughter screamed and screamed and I gave up, sent hubby to the 24hr woolworths for a can of formula and some bottles. She fed, we slept and it was the right decision for us. Second bub has been a dream. She latched straight away (within 10mins of birth) and has breastfed like a champ ever since. She is now almost 11 months old and I’m planning on going back to work so I’ve been expressing like crazy. She happily takes bottles of both expressed milk and formula as I’m struggling to keep my supply up with her in care. I am proud of my breastfeeding efforts, but I do not judge any woman who makes the decision to formula feed her child. I know the struggles. My sister could not breastfeed as she had to take medication that was vital. Other women chose not to for other reasons. We woman (and men too) are far too judgemental of other mums who are just trying to do the best they can. Live and let live.

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    Mum of 4

    I still dont understand why we have to make Mums feel guilty about how they feed their babies! Its their choice, formula is fine these days and babies turn out just fine either way! Although there will always be allergies etc….
    I bottlefed all four of my kids, no allergies, no health concerns, ear infections etc and they are now happy healthy adults, teenagers & children.
    Its whatever you feel fine with and works for you, I have had girlfriends who breastfed their babies who had multiple allergies and chronic ear infections and grommets tubes… it doesnt guarantee a healthy baby.
    Lets just be Mums and feed our babies however works best for us!
    I have no regrets and have never had anyone look down on me or ask me why I wasnt breastfeeding any of my babies!

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    Mum of 1

    Hi everyone,
    this is such a highly commented on topic that I will try to keep mine short!
    I wanted to say to the author that anyone who thinks any less of you because you didn’t breastfeed your youngest is not worth your time :) And well done for being comfortable with your decision and making the right one for you and your family.
    I also wanted to say that I am still breastfeeding right now and have been for 11 months. My experience has carried with it many ups and downs but overall I am very comfortable also with my decision to breastfeed. One thing that I would like to add to this discussion is that the concept of making people feel guilty with your comments can easily be done no matter what the situation and I think everyone needs to be careful of what they say to one another and be more supportive of eachother. There have been many times when certain family members of mine have insulted me (both clearly deliberately and unintentionally) because of my choice to breastfeed. I have had sveral family members comment that my daughter is underweight has poor muscle tone and isnt receiving enough of the essential nutrients and that I should feed her formula. Not only is this information untrue (she has always gained weight slowly but has thrived and hit all the milestones on time, and my doctor always comments on how well she is growing and developing) but is probably based on the offender’s own experiences and guilt. If these people were comfortable with their decisions maybe they would not have felt the need to say these horribly untrue things to me.
    In saying this part of making a choice is being informed, having the correct informaton and the gumption to follow through wiht your decision. I think the author did have the correct informaton, she clearly recognises that breastmilk is very good for babies but was still comfortable enough in her own skin to weigh up ALL the pros and cons and not let the ‘breast is best’ message get in the weigh of her decisions.
    I only have a few friends with children as I am a young mum (well I don’t feel like one but early 20′s is a young mum these days) and out of these women half breastfed and the other half bottle fed. It doesn’t affect our friendship in anyway and I love them all equally and their bubs no matter how they were fed! I am aware of the differences in our childrens health as well but I do not believe that mentioning these to my friends or to this conversation would help the situation at all, why make mums feel any worse about their decision that was obviously not an easy one to make. Besides, the decision is done, you can’t turn around and start breastfeeding after youve been bottle feeding for 9 months-well I thik you probably could but it would be extremely hard, so why make people feel guilty?
    There is nothing wrong with advocating breastfeeding but I think we should be doing this and providing the support and education and information to mothers who are determined to do it-not to mothers who don’t want to or can’t, if we do this it is guaranteed to start a fight every time and I think people know that!
    Let’s not fight, let’s all support one another for who we are-wonderful mothers!

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    Michelle

    I studied breast feeding devoutly before my twin girls were born , determined that I would give them the best possible start in life. Unfortunately fate conspired against me, nearly dying during the birth, an on the spot hysterectomy, blood transfusions and bucket loads of pain all stopped my milk coming in and the girls lacked a good sucking reflex. I really, really tried.. But I was on the verge of a nervous breakdown when my husband found all three of his girls crying in the nursery at 3am and we called a cease fire on the breast feeding war. Questioned on my “decision” not to breastfeed I hardly know where to start – my girls are nearly three and are thriving in every way and I don’t feel a moment of guilt.

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      Carole

      Michelle, I don’t think anyone would begrudge you your decision to formula feed. Feeding twins is challenging at best, and your situation describes anything other than ‘best’. It is because of people like you that I try to not make snap judgements when I see someone formula feeding their baby/babies. I know that everyone has their story to tell. Well done on surviving, and making the best decision for your family.

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    S. Wood, BSN, RN, IBCLC

    I am a Lactation Consultant and it truly pains me when I hear the rude, degrading comments made by women who claim that they are “pro-breastfeeding”. We, as women, should support and encourage each other with the end in sight .. meaning, a well adjusted relationship between mother and baby. I have supported more than a few women on their decision to stop breastfeeding. What I would see in front of me was a woman who felt like a failure because she couldn’t breastfeed like the other “super moms” around her. Don’t we, as women, get beat up enough every day by the media – be thinner, be more beautiful, be the best mother, blah, blah, blah!? To think that another woman would tear another down just makes me sick! I reassure the moms who decide to stop breastfeeding that this is the right decision for THEM – it’s not MY decision! How good of a mother can a woman be when she is totally stressed out because she can’t feed her baby without major drama, or trauma, every time? I wonder if the woman who can’t get pregnant and has to adopt ever hears rude comments about not being a REAL woman?! What’s the difference … I mean, if breasts are all created equal, aren’t uteruses and ovaries? In fact, I strongly feel that these “pro-breastfeeders” are the reason why many moms don’t even want to consider breastfeeding their infants. I love my job and I love what I do. I’m very, very good when it comes to working with mothers with breastfeeding issues. But I view my job as a Lactation Consultant as much more than that. I want to help nurture that special bond between a mother and her child – and that CAN be done, and is done beautifully every single day, even if a mother chooses not to breastfeed! Kudos to you for doing what YOU knew was best for you and your baby! :)

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      cleo

      I wish the like button could be hit more than once xoxo

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      Emma Grey

      I wish there was a ‘love’ button! You’re wonderful. May there be many, many more lactation consultants like you. :-)

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      Linda Enever

      I would love to talk to you more about joining the support team at Family Capers email me linda@familycapers.com.au

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      Najla

      Just beautiful :)

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      Maria

      thank you! xx

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    Kim

    Most of the posts here have failed to mention the benefit of breastfeeding for the mother. Breastfeeding (particularly long term) helps mothers to lose their baby weight (very importnat for preventing health problems for mothers), reduces the risk of certain types of cancers and assists in regulating hormones. It’s not all about the benefit for babies, but the health of the mother too.
    I don’t care one way or the other if you breastfeed or formula feed, but benefits for mums are important to take note of too.

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    Me

    I know this is the wrong post – but I can’t comment in the Vaccinations post from a few days ago.

    This was in The Age this morning:

    Death sparks vaccine appeal

    THE death of a newborn baby from whooping cough in Melbourne this week has triggered a call for Victorians to vaccinate against the highly contagious disease.

    Health authorities said yesterday that it was the first death to be linked to ”the 100-day cough” in Victoria since 2004, and coincided with an unprecedented whooping cough epidemic for the state.

    Dr Jenny Royle, a paediatrician with the immunisation service at the Royal Children’s Hospital, urged Victorians, young and old, to check they were up to date with their whooping cough vaccinations because the epidemic was putting babies’ lives at serious risk.
    http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/death-sparks-vaccine-appeal-20110216-1awnl.html

    This is just so sad.

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      And in The Herald Sun…

      A baby who died of whooping cough in the Royal Children’s Hospital this week is the first to die of the disease in Victoria since an outbreak began two years ago.

      Whooping cough is a highly contagious disease that can lead to convulsions, pneumonia, coma, inflammation of the brain, permanent brain damage and long-term lung damage.

      The vaccination rate for traditional childhood diseases in Australia is at a seven-year low, with 83 per cent of four-year- olds covered – below the 90 per cent that assures “herd immunity”.

      http://www.heraldsun.com.au/ipad/whooping-cough-baby-dies-in-royal-childens-hospital/story-fn6bfkm6-1226007211379

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        Lu

        All of my kids are fully vaccinated. But when whooping cough went thru their school last year one of my children got a terrible cough. I took her to the Dr and 24 hours later got a phone call telling us she had tested positive. We had kept her home in quarantine before we got the results to be on the safe side – luckily. She started medication to stop it being conatagious and had to remain housebound for 5 days. After that she was fine to return to normal activities. The rest of the family were also tested (despite having no symptoms) and we were all clear.
        My point? During that time I could easily count at least 10 kids who also had terrible coughs. I think 2 of them were taken to the Doctor to be tested. The rest went about their lives coughing all over everyone and possibly spreading whooping cough. The fact is that because, like my daughter, they are all vaccinated they didnt suffer greatly. But my point is that the people who dont take their kids to the Doctor (because they dont want the inconvenience of a positive diagnosis) are as responsible for the spread of such diseases as the unvaccinated.

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          Siobhan

          I think you’ve made a good point, and I also think many parents assume that vaccinations provide complete protection against disease, so they might not even imagine that whopping cough could be a possibility because their child is vaccinated against the disease. I know nine children who’ve had whooping cough this year, and all were fully vaccinated. I know at least a few of them continued about their lives as normal and were not quarantined by their parents at all. One other big problem is that only around 10% of adults in Australia are vaccinated against whooping cough (due to the fact that the childhood vaccine wears off after a few years, and requires a booster shot), and adults with whooping cough often show few or no symptoms of the disease. And another issue is that the disease is mutating, so the current vaccine is not as effective as it could be.

          I read a few of the comments made about the vaccination article, but didn’t have the time or inclination to read through them all, as it is such a polarising debate that never seems to result in anything but name calling and aggression. My best advice to anyone reading this, whether in favour of vaccinating your children or not (and indeed whether you have children or not) is to get the whooping cough booster shot. If you are not a parent, grandparent or carer, I think it costs about $50, but if you are truly worried about the current whooping cough epidemic, do your bit to help increase the number of adults in Australia who are vaccinated against the disease.

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    KateEm

    Breastfeeding is fabulous if it works for you. My experience? So. Not. Fabulous.

    When my now 16 year old was born, I was fully prepared and I fully expected to breastfeed. In fact, I don’t think I considered an alternative at all.

    As soon as the nurse put him to my breast, the sensation of it make me feel toe-curling ill. Not only did the sucking cause me deep physical pain, it also caused me to feel revulsion. I could not stand the thought and feeling of him feeding. I was so appalled at my lack of mothering and nurturing. In the hospital, I tried and tried (and cried and cried). It was soul shattering.

    The day we left hospital, we drove over an hour to visit with a Lactation consultant. We spent 4 hours with her on that first visit. Me crying and trying. My husband tried to understand but like so many people found it difficult to get past the fact that ‘everyone else can do it, why can’t you?’ Hell, that was how I felt too.

    The lactation consultant was fabulous. She helped me psychologically and physically. It came down to the option of using a breast milk bank (which really was not a true option in those days), solely formula feeding him or expressing with a machine where I could have minimal suction so that my toes did not curl with each suck. Of course, she said that she had seen people like me before but not as bad…

    So, for my firstborn, whom I felt I failed right from the beginning, I expressed for around 8 weeks. Each session was a marathon session, tedious and tiring but I did it. I knew I just ‘had to’ give him the so-called ‘proper’ start in life, otherwise his health would suffer long term etc etc. The positives of this problem were a few: others (particularly my husband) could help with the feeding and be more involved; I was so much less stressed than I would have been.

    My second born arrived 14 months later. So I had a 14 month old toddler and a newborn. In the hospital, I tried again – thinking different me, different baby. Still the same horrible feeling. This time I was quicker to say – I will express for my child. I had less free time at home for the extended expressing sessions so number two got around 6 weeks of breast milk.

    Three years later, #3 arrived. The two oldest were in 3 and 4 year old preschool. I was older and much more experienced AND knew myself so much better. She went straight onto formula and has been my healthiest child out of the three. Probably a coincidence but it is the truth.

    The guilt I carried around with me for many years for not doing the proper thing by my children was a burden. Other women, while not saying anything to me, said a lot with their looks, even with their wonderful stories of successful feeding. It made me feel inadequate and less than okay.

    Now I am older and my children are 16, 15 and 12, how thankful I am that we made it through those early, guilt-ridden years. Now I have so much more to worry about. Their safety being my main priority.

    As women, we tend to judge others harshly, we tend to beat ourselves up about our choices, about our circumstances. It really was the most pressurised and dreadful time in my life but now that I am well and truly on the other side, I am just so grateful that I have 3 very intelligent and healthy young adults and that I had options available. That, in the end is what really matters.

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    apricot

    What a disappointing article! I had hoped for an explanation of her reasons, of her support for others in the same situation but the whole article was just one big long rant. Such a shame as it is a topic that needs more (educated) publicity.

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      I think the point was she shouldn’t have to explain her reasons to anyone, and nor should anyone else (she gave lots of info about her other two experiences with breastfeeding, which shows she doesn’t move to formula lightly).

      The title they’ve given it doesn’t really reflect the story, which is probably why you were looking for an explanation.

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    Swedishmeatball

    I hate (I know it’s a strong word, but I need to use it here because some of them made my life hell) all the pro-breastfeeding people. I was in my early 20′s when I had my eldest child. To make a long story short, by the age of 6 weeks (and after several visits to the lactation clinic where the crusty old midwife advised me to “keep trying”) there simply wasn’t enough milk for the baby, so we (the husband and I with some advice from an early childhood nurse) decided to try out the formula and we never looked back.

    And for anyone claiming that formula-fed babies are going to be less intelligent than breast-fed ones – all I can say is that that child of mine is a straight-A-student :)

    I have had other children since then and have been able to breastfeed them succesfully, which I loved doing, but I would never ever judge another mother for choosing not to breastfeed.

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    Emma

    Sorry – one more thing. Can we ban the word “should” when it comes to mums & babies?

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    Emma

    I tried for 12 weeks to breastfeed my first child. During this time we were both miserable, tired & besides ourselves. My daughter spent most of that period hungry. I worked with a lactation consultant for most of that time. When I told her I was moving to bottle feeding her response was “there is so much more to being a good mother than breastfeeding”

    If only I had received a similar response from other health professionals. I would not have spent a significant time post this feeling guilty. My daughter is now a happy, healthy, beautiful 5 year old.

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    Sam

    I’ve happily breastfed my two children….only two? Yes, I’m a terrible underachiever. Save your energy for your kids ladies, you can’t win & no one is waiting at the end of the race with a trophy.

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    anonymous

    I’m going to go anonymous for this one because I’ll probably never be able to show my face around here again if I don’t!

    I fed my first child about 3 months and the other two for around eight weeks. I had no problems feeding, and if anything I had an over supply of milk. But I stopped because I just didn’t like breastfeeding.

    I found it boring, I wanted to get back to my work and hubby was looking after the babies, I wanted to get my own body back for myself, if that makes sense. I felt like a moo cow and I didn’t like it.

    They were fed formula, went onto solids and have grown into three healthy, fit, happy and intelligent kids. One of them competes at an elite level of sport. They have always been loved and cared for.

    I know many might consider me incredibly selfish and my comments sacreligious, but I just want to present the other side of the argument.

    I just didn’t want to breast feed. There was no fuss, guilt or controversy. And no one is any the worse for it.

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      Anonymous

      I am super pro breastfeeding. I think we all should do it… But my goodness I respect your honesty….I simply find it refreshing :)

      I told my cousin who is a lactation consultant how people say that their kids turned out just fine without being breastfed and she said that the evidence suggest that they could have been even smarter and healthier…

      This is not to make you feel guilty, it is to ensure other mothers have the right information…..Yes most kids are fine, but according to research they are even better with breastfeeding :)

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        I find this comment incredibly insulting. Just how do they know the babies are even better with breastfeeding? Every child is different and a completly breastfed baby could turn out to be a real dumbass and a completly bottle fed baby could become a chemical engineer, because of a number of factors in our life as children and as adults!

        I believe that breast milk is the best option for babies and provides all the right nutrients etc etc BUT I also believe that formula is right up there next to it, the way people carry on about formula it’s like people are feeding thier babies coke! People need to realise that formula is not the worst option it’s just the next option.

        I also believe that it plays a very small (if any) role in our smarts or our health as children and adults.

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        Yeah kind of an uninformed comment…which research says kids are “even better” with breastfeeding? Which peer reviewed journal was this published in, and when? How can a perfectly healthy kid be “healthier”, anyway? And who gives a toss if your kid isn’t Einstein? Mine are quite smart enough, thanks.

        Parents just need to stop agonising about everything, it’s not so complicated.

        Me, I had a lot more important things to worry about than whether or not I was giving my babies the bottle or the boob. Motherhood can be a vortex that sucks you in and makes you lose touch with reality. (she says in hindsight) You’ve got to keep things in perspective.

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          I have not much research myself. However, my cousin has…

          Here is something for you-

          http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/05/05/us-breastfeeding-idUSN0520782120080505

          Breastfed babies are smarter. However confounding factors such as the characteristics of mothers include “They tend to be smarter. They tend to be more invested in their babies. They tend to interact with them more closely. They may be the kind of mothers who read to their kids more, who spend more time with their kids, who play with them more,”

          But they state they did control for those confounding factors by randomly assigning them to groups…. But who knows….I did not read the primary resource.

          Your points are valid too. Have you done any scientific research in this area to validated your argument?

          I do know for sure that they are now using breast milk to treat some cancers. That is motivating in itself…

          Why would this insult you? I was actually impressed with the honesty. Why is it offensive to say that babies are better off being breastfed? I think we are so oversensitive it is not funny.

          However in some cases breast is not best. If breast is not best in your situation than only you can be the judge of that, not me, not anyone…..

          My point was that people say look my kid is smart and doing really well, so just go ahead and bottlefeed. No worries…. Maybe this is true for your children. But the evidence suggest that overall breastfed babies are smarter. There is no need to get defensive. It is absolutely CRAZY that we cannot even state the research or facts without offending you….

          Have confidence in your choice. In your circumstance, breast may not be best… But only you know that.

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        Kate Geikowski

        I have 3 lots of evidence in my house to say that it is such a gross generalisation that breastfed children are smarter.

        Do you not realise that you can find research and studies to support just about any side of the fence you sit on?

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          Anon1

          I’m not a scientist, but surely unless exactly the same child is compared on both breast milk and formula it would be impossible to tell whether they are brighter or healthier than they would have been with the alternative. Those qualities are heavily influenced by other factors (upbringing, opportunties, the DNA/IQ they’re born with before sipping one drop of either substance etc).

          Nobody doubts that breastmilk contains properties that formula doesn’t – although I know several kids who were fully breastfed who have more allergies than their bottle fed siblings… go figure.

          Pointing this stuff out (about brightness etc) to a forum full of bottle-feeding mums (who seem in the majority of commentators here) would seem to be an example of the very thing that the author is trying to suggest people stop doing!

          When hundreds of women here have just outlined that they’re unable to breastfeed, for a whole heap of different personal reasons, how does it help to point out that breastfed babies are smarter and healthier? That’s exactly the sort of unthinking comment that people have to deal with in real life, as Emma points out.

          I don’t think the title they’ve given this article reflects the point that the author was making. Isn’t she saying that she shouldn’t HAVE to explain to anyone why she is no longer breastfeeding in this instance, yet people will step in and demand an explanation (as some have here) because they find it so hard to accept?

          You can tell enough from her previous experiences with breast/bottle feeding that she doesn’t give up lightly and struggled for months to breastfeed. Why should she (or anyone else) need to justify why it didn’t work out this time around?

          This article makes me feel so much more confident in my own choice, and the fact that I don’t need to explain it to anyone. Thanks for publishing it.

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            @Anon1…. Yes. I absolutely agree with you that many woman have struggled with breastfeeding and I support their choices.

            However, my initial response was because she said, she simply did not do it because she did not want to and that her children are so bright.

            I really respect the honesty. However, I also pointed out that in general babies who are breastfed do much better.

            I also agree that there need to be controlled studies, which is EXACTLY how this study was designed. Babies were randomly assigned to groups, which makes it a controlled study….

            Please read the article above to verify that controlled studies have been done. This leads the authors to suggest that breastfed babies to better.

            Again, I was responding to the commentator who was bragging abut having plenty of milk and being able to breastfeed, but simply did not want to. This is of course her choice and many of my friends made the same one. Do I think they are bad mums? NO WAY! It is simply what they felt was best for them.

            These woman are doing what they felt was best for them does not change the fact that there is evidence to suggest that babies who are breastfed do better. Again, there is evidence to suggest that children in homes where parents are happy together are much better off. I am not in a happy marriage and yes we are looking at separating permanently after we try counselling. But I do not get offended by anyone saying this.

            Have some confidence.

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              cara

              this proves nothing. until you design a study where mothers are randomly allocated to either group A (which are forced to breastfeed) or group B (which is forced to bottle-feed with formula) you cannot establish clear causation. this study will never take place because it breaches every ethical or moral consideration going.

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          You make a fair point Kate. From my understanding, no scientific studies are full proof. No studies can say this is the way it is for absolutely every child. I must agree with you on that point.

          However, if you read the article I provided you above, it does suggest there are many studies verifying that babies who are breastfed generally tend to be smarter.

          I would say that just like with anything, we cannot assume this to be the case for every single person. However, if there is a significant number of breastfed children doing better than non breastfed, than that is something to consider.

          Furthermore, what we know about child development is that when we nurture and hold our babies, they receive signals to their brain which are associated with an increase in all these lovely chemicals. These will further enhance their learning and resilience. I watched a program on ABC the other day that said children who are constantly held and nurtured tend to be more resilient and in the face of adversity do much better.

          Now if we relate this to breastfeeeding. In the initial weeks, your child could be on your boob for 8 hours a day. Which means they get held for 8 hours a day, which means they have hours a day full of those lovely chemicals. But when we formula feed, it takes much less time and therefore the babies may not experience as much. I say this loosely, because of course some parents may make it part of their parenting philosophy to wear their baby.

          Also, I have heard that breastmilk contains 7 essential sugars which are good for cell to cell communication. I do know that a company called Mannitec have a product that uses these sugars to stabilize Parkinson and children with ADHD.

          They are now using breastmilk for some cancers.

          Instead of getting defensive and angry, just see it for what it is. Your children may not have had any adverse impact from being formula fed. This is fantastic and I am really pleased for you.

          However, the research is indicating that overall, breastfed babies do better. I really find it hard to understand why this is an offensive comment.

          I am pro breastfeeding. But as someone previously write, pro happiness too. So, if your choice was the only way you could get through, then that is the best thing you could have done….

          When are we able to discuss the benefits of breastfeeding without making you somehow feel insulted?

          I am absolutely baffled as to why this is insulting. I know the benefits of being in a good stable marriage, but I am not in one. I am simply doing the best I can. I know the benefits of eating perfectly and making my children their own cookies. But I am doing the best I can. I know the benefits of ensuring I read to my children everyday, but again I am doing the best I can…..

          BUT, I do not feel offended when I read information about such issues. In fact, I find it an amazing resource to gain some inspiration to improve my ways…

          Again, have confidence. Those who are confident are open to hearing other points of views, even if they are contrary to their own. In fact, those who are confident actually embrace other views because they see it as an opportunity to learn and grow. More importantly, those who are confident are honest with themselves about where they are at and can accept that they are not perfect….

          Have confidence. :)

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            Kate Geikowski

            I am confident. And not insulted at all. I merely pointed out two things – that it is a gross generalisation to insist that breastfed children are smarter and that it is also possible to find studies to support just about any point of view. That’s all.

            My story of breastfeeding is posted above almost anonymously as KateEm. You may like to read it. You may not.

            I have my experiences. I have my knowledge. I have my point of view. I also do not like to push my point of view so hard so that it makes others feel inadequate.

            In the ‘olden’ days (ie 16 years ago) that is how I was made to feel – granted I enabled that but it was the ‘oh I feel sorry for you’ looks and talks by other women that made it even harder at the time. Once I made the decision to bottlefeed (and it was breastmilk in that bottle for a little while) I was made to feel inadequate when out in public. I heard the tut-tutting and I had to fend off the suggestions ‘have you tried….?’ etc etc.

            After I got over being so down on myself for being a failure at ‘the most natural thing in the world’ I realised that a happy mum makes for a happy family and that is what I clung to when I was judged.

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              Hayley

              I think everyone knows that breastfeeding is the first choice, but if you can’t do it then that’s why they have formula, it is made to give the baby everything it needs and as closely to breastmilk as is possible. Babies on formula thrive and grow into healthy people as well. Breastmilk does have some extras in it that formula cannot, and there are added benefits for mother and baby. But those benefits are outweighed in some circumstances when the mother and baby are happier and better off with formula feeding. Everyone is making the best choice for their family and its noone else’s business.

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              Anonymous

              I can’t stand that you have been judged. I wrote the above in response to the woman bragging that she could breastfeed and simply chose not to. I honestly respect her choice and no one should judge her either. I have friends who make the decision based on personal priorities and they have many strengths as mothers….

              It is also important that we provide each other with accurate information too. I honestly wish you all the best :)

              ps. I am sorry if I hurt you.

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    Kelly

    Hoorah for making a decision that will benefit you and your child. You may have decided to battle on breastfeeding and been depressed and upset if it wasn’t working. This would have affected your child. So in my estimation congrats on sticking to your guns and thinking of you and your childs relationship and for ignoring the naysayers.

    Go you.

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    You can call me Susan

    I breast fed all of my children. I even have a photo of my eldest ‘breast feeding her baby’!
    For each baby the time became shorter, life became ‘bigger’ and my son, the middle one was just too hungry.
    I found that I relied on and I can’t say what it was because it was too long ago ‘ Karicare gold formula?’ Because my kids were small, they took that in a bottle or a sippy cup until they were about three.

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    Serena

    Great article – couldn’t agree more. I had problems due to hormonal issues and was made to feel that I was a bad mother (I was told straight out that I was a bad mother by the member of a certain organization that I went to for help). It took me a long time to get over the fact that I couldn’t breastfeed the much longed-for baby that I’d had three years of treatments to have. I persevered for ten weeks comp feeding, but a teaspoon of breast milk doesn’t go far :(

    If only there had been an article like this when I had my baby, perhaps I would have fretted less and realized that I was NOT a bad mother a lot earlier.

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      Orchid

      That is terrible that you were told you were a bad mother! There are so many breestfeeding nazi’s out there, that instead of helping you work through whats going on they just end up making you feel like crap and then make you feel even more pressure and more stress about breastfeeding, which in turn makes it all worse instead of better!

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    Seahorse

    I actually found this article and it’s title quite confusing. Kicks off with “this is why…” and then doesn’t actually give the reason. We’re just told that there has been some undefined issue that lactation consultants couldn’t assist with. You can sort of half tell the point of the article is to say “stop being so judgey, keep your opinions to yourself, and be more understanding of others”, but the goal may have been better achieved by informing people of some of the real and tough reasons breastfeeding doesn’t work out – I’ve learnt stacks more from those types of comments below, than from Emma and her “I’ve made my decision and you can all get stuffed” attitude.

    Thanks everyone else for sharing their personal stories, as someone 38wks pregnant, it’s really informative to know that breastfeeding doesn’t work for everyone, for a really wide range of reasons, and there’s no need to feel bad about it. Hoping the milk-makers will switch on!

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    Alexandra

    sorry, but i’m sick of reading these type of articles. seems like there’s a new article every month about someone who was unable to breastfeed, was judged by others, came to accept it was best for their baby, then wrote a lengthy self-indulgent article about it for MM.

    maybe we should be more grateful we even have the option of baby formula and move on from judging people’s choices.

    i may just completely skip these in future.

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    Karen

    I have had a double mastectomy for breast cancer (which meant weaning my at the time 6 month old onto formula) and intend to have another child. Good luck pushing the breast is best philosophy on me in that situation!!! I expect that some midwives’ heads will explode but they have a legal and ethical obligation to me and any future babies to teach me how to eatablish formula feeding with a newborn

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      Amanda

      Best of luck with it all you are a brave and awesome woman

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      Good luck to you, I am sure your formula fed baby will be just fine and the ‘tit nazis’ won’t be able to say a thing. I had a breast reduction 6 years before I had my daughter and I was told that I could absolutely breast feed “any woman can breast feed if they want to badly enough” was one helpful midwife’s comment. After a week of tears, 2 hourly alarmed breast pumping, breast with comp formula cup feeding, blood blisters for nipples and
      no sign of milk I gave up. I was so angry at the midwives for not acknowledging that having both nipples severed and then reattached would make breast feeding success highly unlikely. Had I been given formula feeding education and support at the time, my decision to formula feed would have come much quicker and with less guilt and anguish.

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    Anonymous

    I have a friend who has psoriasis and it meant that when she breast fed all the baby would get is blood. She would use the breast bump and the cup would fill up with blood. She continued like this for three days (with encouragement from midwife or course) until she went to the bottle. I couldn’t believe that she persisted for 3 days!

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    Kris2040

    I’m going to give breastfeeding a red hot go, but if it doesn’t work for me or bubs, I don’t have any drama with that.
    I think I’m pretty lucky in that I have no problem telling people to piss off if they start hassling me!
    Mum asked me if I was planning to breast feed, as she did with us and my sister breastfed her munchkins for yonks (was breastfeeding 18 month old twins while preggers with her daughter), I said yes because it is what your boobs and the milk they make is there for, and its free and much easier than having to cart around bottles and make them up in the night and stuff. But if it doesn’t work, it doesn’t, and I’m not going to beat myself up or let anyone else beat me up about it.

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    A wonderful article. All Mums want so much to do the best they can for their babies. I have 3 children. My 1st child was born in 1999, & as a 1st time Mum I was terribly anxious. My baby was 4.2kg and was starving hungry until my milk came in 3 days later. She screamed constantly until she lost her voice, and was not settled by my repeated attempts to breastfeed. During her 2nd day of life the midwife finally advised me to give her formula, as her temp began to rise and she had not had a wet nappy, they thought she was becoming dehydrated. We then gave her 2 bottles which she devoured and finally settled. They also put me on a breast pump (turned on high – ouch), which reminds me of your recent article Mia, regarding visiting new Mums in hospital – there I was on a breast pump for the 1st time, in walks my husband’s Nanna, and 2 Aunties!!) I remember feeling guilty about giving my baby a bottle, & told my Obstetrician what had happened. He scowled & shook his head at me, saying “no, no, you shouldn’t be giving her formula, it will interefere with establishing lactation!” I was devastated and was in tears when the midwife came back in. Her response when I told her was “Well, he can come in here then & listen to her scream”. The next day my milk came in & I managed to feed her for 14 months!! Then I came home to find my Mother-in-law was telling the relatives the hospital had starved the baby!! It was a case of dammed if you do, dammed if you don’t.
    Thinking about it again causes quite a lot of pain for me. I wish health professionals would try to show empathy and support for new mothers (and mothers-in-law too!) I was quite traumatised by my experience.

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      Anon

      Personally I think that whole not feeding a baby until the milk comes in thing is really, really, really stupid. I’m guessing that back when we all lived in caves if a mothers milk took a while to come in other women would breastfeed the baby for a few days. Most women don’t have that as an option now so we’re supposed to just let the baby dehydrate?
      The same thing happened to me, I had nothing to feed my son for the first couple of days but fortunately for me, and him, I had a midwife who told me giving him some formula would make no difference in the long run.

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        Anon2

        It’s not milk in the first couple of days, it’s colostrum, which is the most important part of breastfeeding. They are not really starving but the colostrom is not very substantial so they need to feed a lot, they also need to feed in these first couple of days to get the milk to come in. If women gave their babies to other women to feed then they would have trouble getting their milk to come in and the babies wouldn’t have the vital colostrom.
        Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying it’s bad to give formula in the first couple of days, I did it with my first too, but I just wanted to clear up what you were saying in case people think you don’t need to attach in the first couple of days cause you really do. :)

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          Dawn

          Yeah, the early part of life is the worst time to expose a baby to formula…the gut at that time is very “leaky” ie permeable and this means that large proteins from the formula pass into the baby’s blood stream. It is though that this can set in motion a chain reaction that will result in the development of, for example, diabetes in susceptible individuals. All hopsitals should have access to banked donor milk so that when there is a delay in milk production (as there can be) babies are not unnecessarily exposed to something that can cause a great deal of harm.

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            Lana

            Interesting because when my son was 3 weeks old and in the NICU (where they had the most amazing doctors who were specialists in their fields) he was being fed expressed breastmilk. Only 5 mls a feed granted because he was so tiny. The quantity was not a problem – I could express the 5 ml for every feed but still they added Human Milk Fortifier (which is very similar to formula) to his feeds.

            I am quite certain that they were not exposing him to any harm. Sometimes babies need more than breast milk. I lived it, I am not jut theorising

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              Dawn

              With premie babies it’s a case of balancing risk…using a ventilator also has risk and mechanical ventilation is only used when the risk of not using a ventilator is greater than the risk of using one. They’re not so worried about future risk of diabetes with early exposure to formula as they are about ensuring that premie babies get the minerals that they need (and don’t develop bone problems for eg). However, NEC is a worry! And in the US is there is a human milk fortifier that is actually made out of human milk. Many premature babies die from NEC, many are severely affected for their rest of their life with digestive problems because they’ve had to have sections of their bowel removed. Exposure to formula (including human milk fortifier) is associated with increased risk of NEC. Most of the babies that die as a result of formula feeding in Australia will be premature babies who die from NEC or sepsis.

              See just one recent study

              An exclusively human milk-based diet is associated with a lower rate of necrotizing enterocolitis than a diet of human milk and bovine milk-based products.
              Sullivan S. Schanler RJ. Kim JH. Patel AL. Trawoger R. Kiechl-Kohlendorfer U. Chan GM. Blanco CL. Abrams S. Cotten CM. Laroia N. Ehrenkranz RA. Dudell G. Cristofalo EA. Meier P. Lee ML. Rechtman DJ. Lucas A.
              Journal of Pediatrics. 156(4):562-7.e1, 2010 Apr.
              [Comparative Study. Journal Article. Multicenter Study. Randomized Controlled Trial. Research Support, Non-U.S. Gov't]
              UI: 20036378
              Authors Full Name
              Sullivan, Sandra. Schanler, Richard J. Kim, Jae H. Patel, Aloka L. Trawoger, Rudolf. Kiechl-Kohlendorfer, Ursula. Chan, Gary M. Blanco, Cynthia L. Abrams, Steven. Cotten, C Michael. Laroia, Nirupama. Ehrenkranz, Richard A. Dudell, Golde. Cristofalo, Elizabeth A. Meier, Paula. Lee, Martin L. Rechtman, David J. Lucas, Alan.

              AB OBJECTIVE: To evaluate the health benefits of an exclusively human milk-based diet compared with a diet of both human milk and bovine milk-based products in extremely premature infants. STUDY DESIGN: Infants fed their own mothers’ milk were randomized to 1 of 3 study groups. Groups HM100 and HM40 received pasteurized donor human milk-based human milk fortifier when the enteral intake was 100 and 40 mL/kg/d, respectively, and both groups received pasteurized donor human milk if no mother’s milk was available. Group BOV received bovine milk-based human milk fortifier when the enteral intake was 100 mL/kg/d and preterm formula if no mother’s milk was available. Outcomes included duration of parenteral nutrition, morbidity, and growth. RESULTS: The 3 groups (total n = 207 infants) had similar baseline demographic variables, duration of parenteral nutrition, rates of late-onset sepsis, and growth. The groups receiving an exclusively human milk diet had significantly lower rates of necrotizing enterocolitis (NEC; P = .02) and NEC requiring surgical intervention (P = .007). CONCLUSIONS: For extremely premature infants, an exclusively human milk-based diet is associated with significantly lower rates of NEC and surgical NEC when compared with a mother’s milk-based diet that also includes bovine milk-based products. Copyright 2010 AUR. Published by Mosby, Inc. All rights reserved.

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              Lana

              Thanks Dawn, My baby was treated for a NEC infection in March of 2001. Before he was given HMF. As I said I speak from experience, not from a textbook

              If they are worried about premmie babies not being exposed to the correct minerals etc why do they add HMF and not allow them to just get the minerals they need from breastmilk. This has nothing to do with ventilators or diabetes

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          Lana

          My baby was premature. He didn’t get to attach till he was almost 2 months old and he was still breastfed for way too long ;-)

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            Dawn

            Lana,
            The real answer is money. It takes quite a bit of time to separately calculate what a baby might need and give minerals that way. I know of only one neo in one hospital in Australia who does this (in the ACT).

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    Stephanie

    Thanks for a great article, Emma. This is a very personal subject matter and I appreciate you talking about your experience.

    As a first time mother I knew lots of mums have problems breastfeeding, but never for a minute expected I would be one of them. Breastfeeding is supposed to just happen naturally, isn’t it? Or so I thought.

    After an emergency c-section, my daughter had trouble attaching from the first try. I now know I have flat nipples which made it very difficult for her. After days of trying and trying with midwives, lactation consultants and even my obstetrician trying to help, we eventually decided to top her up with formula. One midwife said to us that we had made the right choice, but she was not allowed to suggest it to us as the policy is “breast is best,” while other midwives openly criticised this decision. I felt I had failed my beautiful child.

    I was sent home with bleeding, cracked nipples and a nipple shield and told to try to get her to attach without it. She wouldn’t. We saw so many specialists in this area and it just wouldn’t happen. My husband would hold my hand everytime I tried to feed as I was in so much agony. I rang the ABA in the middle of the night in complete desperation, to be told I had made a bad choice by using a nipple shield and I just had to keep trying. We ended up that night in emergency at hospital because my 10 day old child was becoming dehydrated. Even still I persisted, because I believed breast is best.

    This continued for 3 months, through numerous bouts of mastitis, until my husband helped me realise it wasn’t working for either her or me. I was devastated and felt I had failed her completely. Shouldn’t I be able to feed my child? I ended up with PND as a result.

    I received lots of negative comments from other mothers when I would bottle feed my child in public. Not one of them knew what I had been through and how my heart was broken and I would have given everything I had to be able to do what they did so proudly.

    I still believe breast is best, and I hope next time it will be different for me, but I am trying to mentally prepare myself in case it isn’t. And if it does work next time, how will I cope with the guilt that I could provide it for that child and not my first?

    Motherhood is the hardest job we will ever do. I hope that by the time my daughter has children, her peers will be able to respect each others’ choices as parents, even if they differ from their own.

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      cindy

      If I wrote my story it would go exactly the way you told it. My bub is just 10 weeks old tomorrow. I also have flat nipples and bub could not attach in hospital and lost a lot of weight and the midwives kept saying just keep trying & would not give her formula even though she was starving. They said you can’t go home until you can feed her. I was in tears for 2 days I just had a baby it should have being the happiest time in my life. After 4 days in hospital I eventually lost the plot and rang my partner at about 9pm at night whilst still in hospital and said get me the f*** out of here. Like I didn’t feel bad enough that I could not feed my starving baby but the midwives made it 10 times worse. The day I went home from the hospital they finally said well you can’t take her home with no plans for how to feed her and I said really well I can’t feed her obviously can I. So they said well if you want to give up then she will just have to have formula. Thank god she finally got something to eat the poor thing. So we got home and continued to try and breastfeed but it wasn’t happening I was in tears my baby girl was in tears. I ended up with mastitis and finally decided to throw the towel in and give her formula. Since then our life has become so much better and my baby is gaining weight and is very happy. But I still feel like I failed my baby girl as I was made to feel like that. I have dreams at night of breast feeding my baby and still wished that I could of. But in the end I couldn’t and she couldn’t and I wish that I could have had more support and reassurance that it is ok to give her formula and she will grow up to be a happy healthy little girl despite what we are told.

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        Stephanie

        I’m sorry you’ve had such a rough time too, Cindy. It’s taken me over a year to realise that the most important thing was my child was being fed. End of story. And now I’m able to realise how lucky we are to live in this time – without a c-section my daughter and I would not have survived, and without formula she would have starved and not grown into a beautiful and very healthy toddler. Best wishes to you and your family.

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    Sarah

    Breast feeding is hard work. For something that is so natural so much seems to go wrong. I am currently breastfeeding my second child and have had a number of struggles both times (at the moment – an infected nipple). But i persevere because I believe that breast is best.

    But i understand that there are situations when breast is not best and there are women who simply cannot continue to breastfeed (my mother having been one of them). The biggest problem, i believe, is that there is nowhere near enough support in hospital just after delivery and in the weeks beyond. Yes there are lactation consultants ‘around’ (depending where you live) and the ABA but what we really need is (i think) lactation consultants in the hospital who visit every single mum to help them get started and talk about what is involved, and first time mums need to be encouraged to stay in hospital until their milk comes in. i cannot get over how little new mums know about breastfeeding (case in point – mums of babies in special care who didn’t know that ‘every 3 hours’ = THROUGH THE NIGHT AS WELL! – i shared a room with two of them). When will the governemnt take this seriously instead of just putting up posters in the hospital and thinking that will make a difference

    And even though i would never criticise a mother who has had to go to formula because breastfeeding simply would not work, i do not agree with those who choose formula feeding because it suits them better or they can’t be bothered trying to breastfeeding, or becuase (like a friend of my sisters) they think that refusing to breastfeed will mean their boobs won’t sag.

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      Jen

      I like the idea of lactation consultants in each hospital. The midwives always seem to busy and personally i find it hard to ask for help.
      For myself I was going along fine or so i thought and then the second day the midwife on told me i wasn’t attaching properly, no one else had bothered to let me know. Nor had they bothered to notice i was not feeding often enough (i had no idea how often to feed and she was sleeping which is good for babies right, why would i wake her?) and she ended up going below the acceptable weight. These issues were fortunately fairly easily resolved and i have had a predominantly good bf experience but it can be hard asking for help of busy midwifes.

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      K. Leigh

      absolutely agree, my son was showing signs of wanting to feed an hour after he was born, whilst the midwives were great otherwise, they just said to me ‘well if he wants to feed let him’ they didnt show me how. I put his mouth to my nipple and he sucked! I thought it was all going great until the next day when the blisters started to break and bleed and the pain was terrible! Another midwife helped me properly over the few days I was in hospital and even though it took a few weeks to get over bleeding/cracked nipples – my son and I both ‘got it’ and I fed him for 7 months. Maybe some good help first off would have set us up for a better start ??

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    Jil

    I hate to think this is even an issue. I would imagine that it’s difficult enough without feeling judged by people for bottle feeding. I’m sorry that any woman suffers from this. Personally, I think that so long as the baby is feeding somehow, what does it matter?

    I wish that people would look inside themselves and figure out why they’re so judgemental. Take a step back and ask yourself why it matters to you if someone chooses to bottle feed? Wouldn’t it be better to make people feel good, rather than tearing people down? What sort of world do we live in?!

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      Hayley

      Mia,

      Why don’t you write an article that addresses what Jill is saying?

      This article (bottlefeeding) and ones like it are only firing everyone up in negative ways.

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        Hayley

        There’s an old saying that one should never talk about religion or politics in polite company. When I became a mother, I discovered a similar conversational embargo among new mums. In my world, birthing, breast-feeding and childcare must be treated with extreme caution.

        We hear a lot about “mummy wars”; the idea that modern mothers are at odds with one another. The most acute example is the supposed tension between stay-at-home and career mums.

        Read one commentator and you’ll be told that stay-at-home mums are wasting their lives, coddling their already spoilt children. A rival pundit will insist working mothers are sacrificing their offspring to the tender mercies of a child-care system resembling a concentration camp for under fours.

        Much of this is media hyperbole. But there really do appear to be tensions and resentments among many mothers about basic parenting choices.

        While natural birth mothers gloat about their healthy, drug-free labours, the epidural enthusiasts deride those who, in their eyes, suffer needless pain. Where one new mother talks about her positive breastfeeding experience, there’s likely to be a bottle-feeding mum who feels she is being implicitly criticised. And if you doubt that there’s heat in the child-care question, try starting a discussion of the issues at a dinner party with a group of new parents.

        Part of the problem is that many new mothers are acutely sensitive to other people’s opinions. No one wants to be seen as a bad mum.

        But the really polarising thing is these issues are all popularly depicted as a choice between the interests of the child and the interests of the mother.

        This logic is often implicit, not explicit, yet it permeates many discussions; the idea that one group of mums (the electively caesared, bottle feeding, career girls) selfishly put themselves before their children, while the others (the natural birthing, breastfeeding, stay-at-homes) submerge their personal identity in their all-consuming overcommitment to mothering.

        Crucially, it’s the “choice” part of this equation that adds the emotional fuel to the fire – the idea that mothers freely join one camp or the other.

        “Choice” has become a buzzword in our neoliberal world, a supposed precondition to achieving everything from economic prosperity to personal fulfilment. And the contemporary mother is frequently depicted as having more choices than any who have come before her.

        But the truth is complex. When we look at her “choices” critically and examine the circumstances under which most parenting decisions are made, we see mothers still acting under various kinds of duress and constraint, particularly as economic circumstances tighten so relentlessly.
        Consider: how much of a choice is it when a woman puts her six-month-old into the only creche with an available place, so she can return to work to pay her mortgage? If this same woman is unable to continue breastfeeding because her workplace does not accommodate for it, is she really making a “choice”? The pressures go both ways. For women who earn significantly less than their partner, taking on the role of sole carer may seem like an economic imperative, rather than a feelgood, pro-maternal choice.

        So, are the mummy wars real? Modern mothers really are under pressure, struggling to balance increasingly demanding lives. But calling the dilemmas they face “choices” simply sharpens their sense of personal responsibility, and so too their consciousness of guilt. If some of my peers get defensive or resentful when confronted by women who have made different “choices”, I suspect they’re responding to this prevailing public discourse.

        It sometimes seems we’ve lost a way of talking about these issues without falling into the simplistic rhetoric of choice. But an alternative vocabulary does exist – the language of rights and entitlements. By returning to this unfashionable way of thinking we would focus the onus of responsibility away from the mother as an individual and back onto society as a whole. We would also give women a way of speaking less defensively about their decisions, and the considerations that constrain them.

        The truth is, most mothers make the same choice – they choose to do the best that they can, under the circumstances in which they find themselves. By entrenching a right to adequate maternity leave, for example, we are taking a small step towards improving those circumstances. But this minimal legislative change is just one part of a broad cultural revision that is needed, an adjustment not just in how we treat mothers, but in how we think about them and how they think about themselves.

        Unlike other workers, mothers can’t walk off the job. But they can equip themselves with a robust sense of entitlement, and articulate their demands accordingly – not just for their own sakes, but for their children. As times get tougher and the range of real choices narrows, it becomes even more important that mothers exercise this power, and that we all take their demands seriously.

        Monica Dux is a freelance writer and co-author of The Great Feminist Denial.

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    Maria

    It’s so refreshing to read about other women’s similar experiences. We tried to fall pregnant for three years before an unsuccessful round of IVF and then conceived naturally a month later..go figure! I was blessed with a wonderful pregnancy – no sickness, no typical symptoms associated with pregnancy just a growing belly. I attended a breastfeeding class prior to giving birth and it looked easy enough, why not I thought, give it a go? It couldn’t be that hard could it?
    After being induced, a 23 hour labour and an emergency C-section, baby came along and within an hour, he was placed on my breast…I was too exhausted and delirious to notice what he was doing but that’s where it all began. Midwives constantly coming into the room, re-adjusting, swapping breasts, squeezing my nipples.. and my baby cried and cried and cried and cried…The midwives told me I needed to feed him every 2 hours for an hour at a time in order to help my milk come in – you do the maths!! Um, will I have time to east, sleep, have a shower??? Feel like a semi- normal human being?
    On day 4, no milk in yet, cracked, bleeding nipples, in pain from my caesar, baby constantly crying, walking to the nursery at 3 in the morning,expressing for an hour only to have 15 mls of milk, 10 of which was blood! a kindly midwife said to me “love, I’m going to give you 30 mls of formula”…I didn’t even know I had an option!!!!! My poor boy then slept for the first time in 4 days for 3 hours straight! (he’d been doing 40 minutes maximum prior to that). God bless that one midwife that actually had a heart and slap the other one that said women these days weren’t tough but just a bunch of princesses! She asked me why I didn’t “prepare my nipples beforehand by tanning them to get them nice and hard” (umm, cause it’s winter and I don’t normally walk around topless and I don’t especially spend time topless in winter in my backyard or anywhere, hardening my nipples – skin cancer anyone??)Yes, she really said this to a a new mum, I mean, I wasn’t feeling guilty enough already!!! – Bitch.
    I know “breast is best” but it’s only best when it works for BOTH OF YOU. I continued trying once I arrived home but we were both fighting it. In the meantime, formula was the drink of choice. I went back to the hospital a week later for a weight check and my son had gained the weight he’d lost + 20 grams. And he was happy and sleeping. But, for this I was scolded like some naughty schoolgirl! According to “the graph” he should not have put on that extra 20 grams and that’s what formula will do to babies. Yep, glad I came too!
    So, 17 weeks down the track, my son is 7.5 kgs and nearly 70 cms. And gorgeous! and happy! and sleeping through the night most nights. I can’t say it’s because of formula but whatever we’re doing, he is content.
    I am sorry I couldn’t breast feed and I know if I am lucky enough to be able to have another child, I will give it a go. But in such strong advocacy for breastfeeding and caring for newborns, we have forgotten the other equally important partner in the equation – the mother. Whilst the hospital took great care of my physical needs, especially after a caesar, my emotional well being was completely neglected.
    Thank god for my friends, family and husband who supported me throughout the process. I think of other women who perhaps go through similar situations without the support I had and find it no surprise so many of them suffer depression!
    My mother-in-law recently told me that in their day, “carnation milk” was what most newborns had!!!! I rest my case.
    Do what you need to do for both of you and stand firm!

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      Sally

      Beautifully said

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      Sky

      Love this story, in so many ways. Natural conception after years of trying and unsuccessful IVF – wonderful and inspiring! The blurting out of the word “Bitch” – perfectly said. So from what I’m gathering as a not yet mum from all these great mum posts is this: all mums know what to do for their own children, and everyone else can either support them or back off! As women we need to stop feeling like we’re doing the wrong thing just because someone else thinks we should be doing it differently. We also need to stop judging other women who do it differently and stop calling them wrong. Right comes in many shades and colours. Right?

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      Jodie

      Well said Maria. This was very similar to my own situation when my son was born 7 years ago. I was lucky enough to have a maternal and child health nurse who understood and was supportive of my situation.

      For the first 3 months I did a combination of breast and formula feeding on her advice because I was having such trouble establishing a supply. However along the way had a hideous GP who firstly tried to say that my son had reflux when he became very unsettled after the end of day feed (he was actually just exhausted with trying to get anything from me), and then lectured me what a mistake I’d made in deciding to switch to complete formula feeding. So he gave me to lecture on breast is best, at the same time as trying to insist I give my 3 month old child unnecessary medication!

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      Stef

      Good on you, Maria. You’re a great Mum for listening to your baby and yourself.

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    Mrs_Kan

    Thx
    xoxo

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    Maggie

    I don’t think that advocating breastfeeding automatically assumes judgment of women who don’t. It can be easy, hard, enjoyable, painful all those things but I do think women need to be encouraged to persevere as the benefits to babies are manifold.
    No judgement , just encouragement and support.

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      Emma

      There is a fine line between encouraged & made to feel judged or guilty. Especially when that person is exhausted & sleep deprived.

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        Maggie

        Exhaustion and sleep deprivation are part of the deal- I suggest that guilty conscience is more a problem for women who give up trying to breastfeed in the first thrre months. Only a tiny minority of women actually can’t breastfeed – for the rest it is lack of perseverence. If that’s judgment, then so be it! I have worked in maternal and child health and seen the speed with which many women give up – especially when they realise that formual leaves a BIG LUMP in the baby’s tummy – and they sleep through! Lets be honest about this

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          Maria

          Just wondering whether you’ve had children yourself? Your reply sounds somewhat insensitive…And can you explain “the big lump”..or is that a technical term that they use in “maternal and child health”??

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    Lynnie

    I had the same issue with my daughter, trying for 7 weeks to feed when I had no milk due to losing a heap of blood during my emergency cesear, visits to breastfeeding clinics, maternal health nurses making me cry by telling me that “i need to try harder”, and ended up giving up as I felt I was not bonding with my baby. she is now 15 mths old, walked at 10 mths, is happy and healthy has a large vocab for her age. I am so sick of women being unsupportive to each other by putting down someone or judging them for making a different choice. I don’t go up to people at the shops and have a go at them for buying their kids Mcdonalds for lunch, even though I wouldn’t give it to my daughter. Up to them how they raise their child. and it doesn’t make me less of a mother because I choose to feed my child from a bottle. Stop it people. Women have enough crap to deal with without this constant oneupmanship that seems to accompany motherhood. Maybe it makes them feel better to bag someone else, makes them feel like they are not such a bad mother cos at least they breastfeed. So over it.

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      SamJK

      Strange that they let you try for 7 weeks! I had the same birth story, 20+ hrs labour only to have a c-section.

      My milk didn’t come in and after a few days I was told that I needed to make a decision before I left the hospital. (I wonder if I said I wanted to persist would they have kept me in there for weeks/months). Wasn’t really that hard a decision, feed him nothing and he would stave to death or send hubby out for all the relevant supplies for my homecoming. And they didnt blink an eye when I said my decision was the bottle.
      My standard reponse to any interfering strangers: “yes I have large breasts but they are only for decoration”!

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      Laila

      Well said. I think the same thing about people who allow their kids to eat lots of junk food.

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    Sarah Greenaway

    I was a bottle fed baby and I’ve never (touch wood) had any health issues. My eye sight is fine :-)

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      Lynnie

      Exactly, me and all my siblings were bottle feed and we are all healthy and intelligent people.

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      Cressida

      My brother and I were only breastfed for around 6 or 7 weeks each. Case in point – I am the one with a slightly healthier immune system whereas he caught lots of bugs as a kid and even now as an adult he seems to get more colds etc than what I do (we are only 13 months apart). So go figure! :-)

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    kelly

    I worry about the language used in this article that refers to breastfeeding as an ideal. This puts it on a pedastal and reassures society that formula is *normal* for babies. Breastfeeding is the biologically normal way to feed a human infant and there may be health implications in using a substitute. Sure sometimes in a risk assessment in that larger picture formula may be the best choice for your family – the same way using a wheelchair is the best choice for getting around if your legs don’t work. But it is a substitute for the biologically designed milk and feeding method for human growth and development. The article also contains some scary misinformation – particularly worried about the flippant reference to the mother feeding a toddler during labour and this resulting in an inability to feed her newborn???? This makes no sense as a woman able to breastfeed a toddler is well able to feed a new born as well.
    Also scary to think a woman who tried so hard to breastfeed doesn’t know the terminology for ABA volunteer workers. Group Leaders run ABA groups and my local GL had chronic low supply and used formula to feed all of her babies along with putting them to the breast and even using a supply line.

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      Emma Grey

      Hi Kelly,

      Thanks for the feedback. It’s always interesting to read so many different points of view on the one topic.

      To clarify a couple of your points:

      The info about the woman in the labour ward came from the lactation consultant in the hospital. It is possible to feed children of different ages, but was not possible for this woman, according to the midwives and lactation consultants she dealt with. (The fact that this private information was being shared with other patients is a concern.)

      The ABA terminology was used by a Government-sponsored lactation consultant during one of several visits over a couple of months, which ended in two different lactation consultants (because I wanted a second opinion) advising ‘this is not going to work – I advise weaning’, and ‘In this case, you could try for months, but he will never attach’.

      Both points (the hospital example and the terminology error) illustrate again the conflicting advice provided to new mums, which so frequently compounds this issue.

      It’s good for your local group leader that she was able to formula-feed and use a supply line. That is one woman’s experience, as is my story. I’m sure you have a story of your own that is different again to both of these. In fact, with my three children – one of whom was successfully breastfed (something I adored) – I have three very different experiences, as do many women.

      You may not have intended it (or perhaps you did, which proves the point of this article), but there is a suggestion in your comment that I didn’t try hard enough to breastfeed. (‘scary that a woman who tried so hard to breastfeed doesn’t know the terminology… etc’)

      Also, picking up on your point about choice of language, use of the term ‘normal’ to describe breastfeeding, and by extension the suggestion that bottle-feeding is ‘abnormal’ is an example of the kind of comment that can cause psychological damage to many mothers.

      Perhaps I am over-reacting, but the wheelchair analogy may be construed by many as offensive, too (not only because it implies that inability to breastfeed is a disability, which is unhelpful to those mums who can’t breastfeed, but because drawing a comparison between being unable to breastfeed and unable to walk may be seen by some/many as trivialising the latter, particularly as you refer to use of a wheelchair as a ‘choice’ for ‘getting around if your legs don’t work’).

      It’s these kinds of comments that can lead women (particularly new mums) to feel even more upset and disappointed than they already are when breastfeeding doesn’t work out – contributing in some cases to PND which, in turn, may contribute to difficulty bonding with the baby.

      On a general note: if writing this article causes even one person to think twice before stepping over the line into another mum’s life when she is already struggling enough (particularly if she is emotionally fragile or suffering PND), then I’ll be pleased to have taken the risk of putting something this personal ‘out there’.

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        Sarah

        My reading of Kelly’s comment was that it is important that formula is not portrayed as being equal to breast milk and breastfeeding because, frankly it isn’t. HOWEVER it is a very, very good alternative when breastfeeding is not an option. i find that the attempt to fix the problems which have come about because people (as you quite rightly pointed out) can be extremely judgemental and form opinions when they have absolutely no idea, failing to realise that quite often women are bottle feeding because it is the best option for their child. but it would be wrong to take it so far as to say that any support for breastfeeding over formula is judgemental.

        i think that perhaps you have read too much into her comment. but i think that that is understandable because you have been forced to be on your guard due to how you have been treated by others.

        a balance needs to be made where breastfeeding is encouraged, but there is no judgement when formula needs to be used as an alternative. otherwise it goes too far

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          Emma B

          Sometimes I think people are focussed to formula is not as good as breast milk. It’s a well known & accepted fact.

          What people seem to struggle to comprehend is the difference between a happy mum & baby who is not hungry has significantly greater benefits to all vs stressed & depressed mum & hungry baby.

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      Carole

      Wow, Kelly, you did a much better job than me of putting the ‘breast is normal’ message across. I got slammed for saying so (in the ‘older comments’ section, below), although I was much less eloquuent than you.

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    Immaterial Girl

    I have inverted nipples. When my 1st baby was born in the UK the lactation nurse gave me these silicone sombreros called nipple shields to stick on to my boob to give my baby something to latch onto. After several days of my baby sliding off my breast, I was thrilled to discover that they worked perfectly and I happily breastfed for 12 months. With my second baby born in Australia I wanted to use nipple shields and was unable to use them in hospital as every nurse that came in told me how they would reduce my supply and that the baby would get used to them and it would be a bad habit. Baby couldn’t latch on, lots of screaming(from him and me) and expressing milk etc. I got home, used the nipple shields and it all went swimmingly again for another 12 months, but I had to lie about my secret nipple shield habit at the health clinic.

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      Jo Hilder

      Me too.

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      Sarah

      they were a lifesaver for me with my first. unfortunately, many midwives don’t suggest them as a solution (something i have discovered through the experience of quite a few friends)

      there really needs to be better training and standardisation of methods for midwives regarding breastfeeding. there seems to be too much reliance on learning on the job

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      Fiona MP

      This story just further demonstrates how random the care given to new mothers is. I had both my daughters at a Melbourne hospital and was lucky enough to have the same fabulous midwife look after me both times. In contrast to many of the mothers cited here, I had “too much” milk which resulted in enormous boobs too big and taut for my my wee girls’ mouths to latch on to. The result – a fantastic collection of cracks, splits, removed nipple surface, blood and lots of pain for dear old Mum. The midwives offered so much assistance including the midwife referred to above giving me nipple shields she had bought personally to take home. A wonderful woman who helped enormously. And someone open to trying all sorts of techniques to suit all the different circumstances. And yes, I breastfed my first daughter for 10 months and am currently breastfeeding my 4 month old baby. BUT, I also gave/give them both formula from time to time when it (Quel Horreur!) suits me to be away from them for a feed.

      On the formula note – it is extraordinary that people judge so vehemently the decision by some woman to formula feed, particularly when formula fed children thrive and are successful. (My husband and his sister were both formula fed b/c my mother in law couldn’t breast feed, and he is a very capable fit and intelligent man, and she is a very capable fit and intelligent woman – both with high-paid jobs and an ability to function successfuly in society.) There are studies that suggest that children born vaginally are marginally healthier than those who arrive via caesar, but would a woman be judged as a poor mother b/c she had a caesar in circumstances where to not do so could damage her child or herself? I would hope not, but given the often histrionic views on breastfeeding, perhaps so.

      In summary – mothering is hard hard work. It is physically exhausting, mentally dull dull dull yet at the same time challenging, amazing, rewarding, thrilling and delightful. Each mother does the best she can to manage it all in her particular circusmtances and if that includes formula, good on her. If that includes breast feeding your 3 old in between contractions when delivering another baby, good on her.

      Wouldn’t it be great if all this energy and enthusiasm could be directed towards resolving the issues of world peace etc?

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      Lisa

      I had the same problem and nipple shields worked a treat! I’m sure I would have given up without them. A visiting MCH nurse suggested them to me, but I know they are generally frowned upon by midwives. I smuggled a set into the hospital for my sister-in-law when my niece was born. My SIL reckons it was the best present she received!

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    Belinda Vogels

    Thankyou so much for posting this story!
    When my daughter was born, I had been induced to have her, had a 24hr long labour, which then led to an emergency c section (I had been hoping to go natural the whole way) and by the time my baby was 2 days old, I was told by the nurse “Your daughter is starving, cant you tell, give her to me!” and took my daughter down to the nursery where she began to formula feed her. All the nurses told me that it would take a while for my milk to come in, due to the c section, but in my family is a long history of women not being able to breast feed.. I was kept in hospital for a week, as they said they wouldnt let me go until they were assured I could care for my baby, and that I was breast feeding her. So everytime she got hungry, A nurse would come, shove my breast into my screaming babies mouth, making us both cry, until finally, on day 6, I stood up for myself and said I would give her as much breast milk as possible, top up with formula, and express.. I was made to feel like I couldnt do anything right for my daughter, and even my mother in law told me that there should be no need for formula…
    When we came home, I continued to express, put her on the breast and formula top up, (and I was only getting about 40mls of breast milk expressed every 5hrs) until she started to develop quite severe stomach cramps that would have her screaming for hours… I wrote a diary of what she ate and when, and discovered it was the breast milk causing her to be miserable. I couldnt eliminate foods, as the cramps had been occuring even in hospital.. The dr advised me to give my daughter infacol and some other medicine with the little amounts of breast milk she was recieving, and at 12 weeks all my milk (all 40mls of it!) was gone…
    By having formula she was happier, I was happier, and it has taken me a long time to get over the way I was judged in those early days, and to affirm to myself that I am a great mummy, and my inability to labour, give birth to, and feed my daughter does not make me a bad mummy, despite what others told me…

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    Melinda Brazier

    Hi, thanks Emma for this great article. I was discussing this very problem at work yesterday, I really do not understand where all this judgement comes from, as soon as you get pregnant & have kids, everyone has an opinion.
    You need the thickest of skins and am appalled and really disheartened that people can be so judgemental, its really none of their business, and really maybe they should just concentrate on themselves, instead of making other mothers feel inadequate. People who say such things cannot be doing so well themselves. Really, whatever works for you is fine and most of all other mothers should you would think, be more supportive of each other. Motherhood is hard enough as it is, and yes breastfeeding IS one of those things that sometimes can take great effort,but does not always workout.
    I breastfed both my sons for one year each, it was no picnic, mastitis no less then 8 times, people don’t seem to take much notice of whats happening they just judge a book by its cover.I was happy with my effort and content with that, anyone who doesn’t agree, well thats their problem, c’mon mums stop belittling each other, thanks again for the great article.

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    meljb

    I have been lucky. I was able to breastfeed my son until nearly 12 months, my “problem” with him was total bottle refusal so it was mummy or nothing and he really liked his milk. It was exhausting and I did find it hard to have him still in charge of my body, so to speak, for so long, so physically I was able to do it but toward the end I was find it difficulty mentally. My daughter is also breastfed, but I had to go back to work recently. She was 9mths old and still needs milk so we now combine formula and breastfeeding. Because she is on bottles during the day I think I’ll be able to continue feeding her for longer because it will only be once or twice a day. She is also a much faster feeder than my son so it has never felt as difficult to keep feeding her.

    I know women in my age group who have depserately tried to breastfeed but couldn’t, others who kept persevering depsite advice from everyone (including lactation consultants) that it was never going to work and still another who didn’t breastfeed because she just didn’t want to. All of them have healthy, well developed, beautiful kids and at the end of the day that’s what we all want.

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    SK

    I think the underlying issue here is the uninformed, insensitive judgment that we mothers seem to like to dole out on eachother. Whether it be feeding methods, or birth choices it seems from the moment we conceive, we feel the need to adopt a position and barrack for it, like footy seasons!

    I chose to breastfeed and for various reasons (excellent support, great medical advice, first child so no other demands) was able to get through a number of challenges and ended up feeding for 14 months. I experienced ‘reverse judgement’ – plenty of family felt the need to continually remind me that the bottle was an option, that I was choosing to be a martyr and ‘wasn’t she getting a bit old for that?’!!! So we poor mothers, can’t win!

    I have realized that we all judge – its pretty human. But just because we have a view, doesn’t mean that we need to share it uninvited or that it is the right view, for everyone else. I think the most important thing is to support eachother, empower eachother, share quality resources and be respectful of individual journeys.

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      Urban Fringe

      You’re right – if the issue isn’t about birth choices or bottle vs breast – there is still always the contentious themes of when/if you return to work/what kind of childcare you use/do you allow your newborn a dummy/what you feed your child and on and on it goes. We all just have to feel confident in our choices and our knowledge of our children. For something to work, it has to work for both mother and child – or father and child – other people’s approval doesn’t matter, no matter how much it weighs on us.

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      Mumintheburbs

      I got the reverse judgement too, SK. “oh, are you STILL feeding”, ” you just don’t know how much they are getting” etc and then from the medical professionals who are supposed to be pro breastfeeding constant scrutiny about weight gain. It’s enough to drive you to distraction..
      We do need to be supportive of one another’s choices. My sister-in-law and I each have 3 daughters the same age. I breastfed, she bottle-fed, I have stayed home, she went back to fulltime work. All our girls are healthy, beautiful, smart and hilarious- so well done both of us, I say!
      Ps- I know I have already posted on this but I could talk about it all day.

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      Liz

      I experienced the same, but from the outside – I watched my girlfriend desperately try and breastfeed a big hungry bub and be badgered into bottle feeding by her own mother and husband. Second baby, she successfully breastfed, and after saying she’d do it for 6 weeks, she got to 8, then 3 months, then 6 months and she was thrilled – the whole time her mum kept saying ‘why are you shifting the goal posts all the time, you said 6 weeks, why are you bothering now its up to 8 weeks, just put her on the bottle’ but she persisted and by 6 months, she was happy with her achievement and weaned her baby. Third time round – again, successfully started breastfeed, then her husband had a job change requiring an interstate move. She persisted with breastfeeding as long as she could, and instead of her ringing me crying about any difficulties she had feeding, she was crying because he mother and husband put so much pressure on her to bottle feed, so she could pack up the house and deal with the other two, she gave in to give herself some peace. I will never forgive the two of them for the pressure they put on my girlfriend who was so totally shattered after not being able to breastfeed her first, successfully did the 2nd and 3rd, only to be ridiculed for her choice.
      I personally have no issue with what people choose to do in breast vs bottle, I just wish that once people made that choice, others accepted it and gave support for new mothers in their choices!

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    chellebelle

    First son was breastfed for a torturous 6 months. I just didn’t have much milk despite trying everything, and always found breastfeeding painful. So he was topped up with formula from 4 months then bottle fed from 6 mo. Second son had health problems and we were advised to formula feed him by the pediatrician so he was partly breastfed for 11 weeks. Both boys turned out just fine, as did my sister and I and dozens of other adults I know who weren’t breastfed. It seems the vocal minority is ridiculously powerful on this one – causing countless families a lot of unnecessary grief with their unrealistic preaching. I have just one thing to say to them. Shut the fuck up.

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      JJ

      The vocal minority? Ahhh, most people breastfeed. I think it’s the vocal minority of bottle feeders who continue to bring this up because they feel so defensive about their choice. Most people who breastfeed don’t give a toss if you bottle fed your kid. Get over it.

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        chellebelle

        Nothing to get over – just stating my opinion. I firmly believe that a very small number of (mostly) women, including midwives, MACH nurses etc are rampant lactivists who simply cannot accept that breastfeeding isn’t always possible and will go all evangelical on you about it. They do way more harm than good and I still think they should shut the fuck up. It’s a small number of people when you consider the total number of people involved in breastfeeding around Australia, but they carry on like pork chops, hence my labeling them the vocal minority.

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          JJ

          So, what your really saying is that trained doctors and nurses who feel passionate about the science that backs up their job (because science says that breastfeeding is better), they’re evangelical? About supporting and promoting something that’s good for babies? If you didn’t like the help you were getting, change doctors or nurses. My best friend couldn’t breastfeed and her doctor told her with no hesitation or judgement to give it up. Every good cause, like promoting breastfeeding, needs those who will sing its praises so that the message gets through.
          And what I really took offense to more than anything was telling people to shut the f* up. Just rude.

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            chellebelle

            I am truly happy for you that you must never have suffered at the hands of one of these people. If you had, you’d understand the strength of my language. I thought you were rude saying “get over it”, so I guess this is a case of each to their own viewpoint, and communication style, and have a great day.

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        Lisa

        JJ you might not care, but many, many breastfeeding women do. Chellebelle rightly defines them as the vocal minority. It can be hard to ‘get over it’ or even ‘get on with it’ when strangers negatively comment on your feeding choice all the time.

        I was lucky to be able to breastfeed two babies beyond their first birthdays. Third time round I wasn’t so lucky. For a combination of reasons my milk supply dried up and I had to formula feed my third child from 8 weeks.

        In more than two years of breastfeeding I never received any negative comments or exclusion. I wish I could say the same about my choice (or necessity) to bottle feed.

        Bottle feeding mothers will ‘get over it’ when other people respect their right to parent the way that is best for their child.

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        Mrs Average

        You seem to be enjoying a bit of “us and them”. It is the vocal minority thankfully that are so uncouth to make such uninformed judgements.
        Of course bottle feeders feel defensive, because most of them would have dearly loved to breast feed. That is essentially why they get so upset, because insensitive people comment so flippantly, causing Mum’s to feel scolded for choices they would often have preferred not to have to make.

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    Anonymous

    Interesting read, but as someone with a 3 week old baby what I take from it (emotionally) is that I haven’t suffered enough to “justify” going to formula. I know that it’s not a particularly rational thought but with such traumatic experiences to share, explaining yours and emma’s decisions to formula feed it makes my short spell of problems seem less significant.

    Since the day I gave birth to my 4.5kg daughter my supply has not met her demand, despite taking medication to augment it since day 5. So she is already partly receing formula – so i don’t have the difficulty of a hungry baby losing weight. I’ve almost had mastitis twice but it hasn’t quite developed and while my nipples hurt so much I can’t do more than one breastfeed a day without tears. So she fed mostly expressed breast milk.

    2 people in the last 24 hours have told me not to torture myself, assuring me that giving up is ok but I’m not ready yet because we all still see it as giving up and that you seem to need a damn good reason (or about 50 of them) to do so.

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      Lynnie

      I understand, I perservered for 7 weeks, and cried when I decided to stop, but from the moment i bottlefed my girl she was so happy, we bonded beautifully and life improved. Your baby and you are whats important, it is noone elses business. Just do what you think is best.

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    Mumofmany

    Great article Emma. Babies require feeding one way or another whether it’s breast +/or bottle. All of my
    children had problems breastfeeding.Thanks to the advice of my child health nurse, I used a nipple shield when feeding them at home, and formula when I was out. There’s no reason why you can’t do both if possible. Why is it always one way or the other? By having combination feeding my husband was able to share in the joy of feeding his children, and I was able to rest whenever required by not having to be ‘on tap’ 24/7.