By ANNA BOUROZIKAS
There probably aren’t too many second generation Australians my age that haven’t grappled with the issue of cultural identity. What forms your self-identity most? Is it the family you grew up in? The country you were born and raised in? The country your parent’s came from, its culture and beliefs? How do your reconcile differences between the country you were born in and the one your parents came from? How important is language in all of this? Especially given, that many second generation Australians probably raise their children in English speaking households. How will the third generation see themselves?
These are questions I have wondered about since I became a parent and attempted to teach my children to speak Greek. I started primary school in Melbourne’s south-east in the mid 70s. Although I was born in Australia I was unable to speak English by the time I started school. My parents were Greek migrants and I was being raised in a Greek household.

Without speaking the language, I felt he would be cut-off from really understanding us and his roots. (The image is not Anna’s son)
Once I started primary school, I spent several years doing special English classes. There was nothing unusual about that. I grew up in an area where a large majority of the population had migrated from Greece post World War II. The majority of students at my high school were from a Greek background.
There were so many of us, classes could not be held on the Greek Easter Good Friday, when we all stayed home. I went to Greek school two nights a week. I participated in the Greek national day celebrations, performed in Greek plays.
The Greek community in our area was large enough to sustain an alternate, virtual Greek community for my parents and their friends. I didn’t grow up in the Monash area so much as I grew up in the Greek community in the Monash area. It was fantastic. We rarely experienced racism. It was also very difficult. Especially for girls. The patriarchal Greek culture back then was very strict on girls.
Fast forward some 15 years later when my second generation Greek Australian husband and I were living in the suburbs, on the other side of the city, far from family, no Greek community, and the task of raising children to feel some sense of Greekness, became difficult.
When my son was born, I tried really hard to teach him the little Greek I knew. I wanted him to speak Greek to his grandparents. Language is a fundamental part of feeling a sense of belonging to a culture. Without speaking the language, I felt he would be cut-off from really understanding us and his roots. There would be a large barrier between him and his grandparents who spoke English as a second language. My husband and I both speak good kitchen Greek, another impediment.
I was determined to try. I was doing well. However, at 2 years of age, he stopped responding to the Greek language. The rate at which he was learning English – from television, childcare, friends, and admittedly from us, outpaced the rate from which he was learning Greek.
We had the same problem with our daughter. Both my kids go to Greek school on Saturday mornings and are now learning to read and speak. I figure, if it is possible to learn a language other than your mother tongue, like French or German, then they can learn to speak Greek. And they are. Slowly.
My son can now read in Greek, although he doesn’t understand everything he reads. Although we know people who have succeeded in teaching their children a little of their cultural language, most people we know haven’t. Without speaking the language, could I call my kids third generation Greek Australians? Their Greek school teacher says this is common. She’s surprised how many of her third generation students do not speak Greek.
We could learn to speak Greek easily because our early years were spent in households where Greek was the only language. This was reinforced by extended family and the wider Greek community our parents socialized within. We never heard English, and if we did, it wasn’t enough to learn the language, until we started school.
As my English improved, I became the family translator, translating news stories, school notices and bills. For many second generation Greeks, Greek is spoken only with their parents and others of that generation, and often with some English thrown in. My English improved, and so did my parent’s. My Greek language learning however, slowed.
I don’t feel less Greek because of this, but more like a Greek Australian.
Our parents lost a lot to come here, seeking a better life. I felt that most keenly when I visited Greece as a young adult. My parents had raised me to consider myself Greek. But, surprisingly, and ironically, the Greeks of Greece saw me as a foreigner, openly asking my relatives, “Who is the foreigner?”
Until I travelled, I always saw my parents as migrants from another country. They were the minority. I saw them as vulnerable, living in a country that spoke a different language to theirs. In Greece, there were times where I struggled to be understood but my parents would have been able navigate their lives with ease.
They would have been part of the majority, living in the country of their birth, where they had a historical link to the land. I could see the hidden chapter of their life before they migrated. Through the lives of their siblings I could see what their life in Greece could have been had they remained. Through the lives of my cousins, I could see an alternate version of my own life.
I expected the Greece Greeks to be like my parents and the people from my community back home. But they were very different. I didn’t feel as connected to them. As I walked through my parents’ villages, retracing steps, seeing what my parents saw every day they lived in their respective villages, I felt a connection in my heart to the land, the mountains, the sea and the culture that had shaped my life from the other side of the world. I was part of the ancient continuum. The seeds blown in the wind of the diaspora may have landed in Australia and flourished, but the tree was firmly rooted here. My Greek switch flicked on.
If it was Greece that taught me about my Greek-ness, than it was my three years in London that taught me about my Australian-ness. Here I was living in a country whose language I spoke fluently, with a shared Queen and strong historical links, yet there was cultural divide. It took a little while to understand the British culture, and the character of the people. They saw me as another expat Australian. They didn’t understand that I was a Greek Australian. Cultural identity for a second generation person is fluid. It can depend on where you are and who you are with. My time in London taught me a little about how it must feel to be a migrant. It can be disjointing to live long term in a country where you have no ancestral history.
What I’ve learnt, is that language may be fundamental in feeling connected to a country but language isn’t enough. It is not the only way people connect to their cultural heritage. I’ve met Jewish people in Melbourne who don’t speak Hebrew, yet still feel Jewish and practice many Jewish traditions. My kids are also learning to speak Italian, but don’t feel Italian because of it. Cultural identity comprises race, beliefs, history, connections to a land, music, food, and traditions shared with others.
I know my kids love Greek food. They respond enthusiastically to Greek music. They enjoy learning Greek myths and Greek history. When my son first started Greek school, he would insist he shouldn’t have to, as he was Australian and not Greek. Now, in his third year at Greek school, he calls himself Greek. He understands his place in the continuum. We are not only connected through the biology of mother and son, but through the shared history and culture of several countries. This is our heritage.
Sadly, I’m not sure if my kids will continue these traditions and whether they will send their own kids to Greek school. Will these traditions inform them, the third generation, the way they inform my husband and I? Will they feel like tourists in what may seem like our culture, not theirs? My husband and I are not the Greeks our parents are, and our kids will be less so. It will be interesting to see how they identify themselves as they grow up. Will conflicts over cultural identity affect them as deeply as they have us?
Anna is a former publicist, who in a former life worked in TV, radio, online and in film. She’s an occasional blogger, amateur photographer, freelance writer, editor, and screenwriter.
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I am second generation Greek-Cypriot from Britain. It is interesting to read how many similarities there are from the other side of the globe. My children go to Greek school too, but they are definitely finding it harder to pick up the language because they are not exposed to it as much as I was. Language is important because without it there is a barrier to the culture and people. It took me a while to figure out my place within the British culture because as a child I was regarded as a foreigner and when we went on holiday to Cyprus I was again regarded as a foreigner: now I regard myself as belonging to both and enriched by the combination.
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culture is who we are- if you lose that, you lose sense of self. think about Indigenous Australia and the stolen gen/ white oz policy. wake up!
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I think it’s a bit ridiculous to try and force an identity onto your children. My husband is Israeli, and speaks Hebrew with our son, not in order to teach him anything but just because he enjoys it. If we end up staying in australia i doubt my son will teach hebrew to his own children… why?? He’s australian!
Its fantastic that people feel connections to their country, and to be proud of your own identity. But I think we should let our children naturally figure out their own, not feel beholden to their parents to maintain this identity from generations previous. Perhaps your son will grow up, show an interest and want to learn about his families history, and thats just what it is. History.
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Whoa! Careful people. I’m all for tradition and cultural heritage etc. learning a second language is great also. … But I grew up as an Aussie minority in a predominantly Italian community and then a Greek one when we moved as I was older. I grew up feeling that I should be ashamed of being an Aussie and feeling very inferior due to comments by my ‘friends’ and their cultural experiences being rammed down my throat that apparently Aussies didnt have. It wasn’t until I had my own kids that I took a stand. My youngest son (now 13) came home from school with a project. He had to draw the flag of his country (bizarre when 98% of the kids in his class were born here and so were the vast majority or their parents). When he went back to school with a magnificently drawn and colored in Aussie flag, his teacher failed him and he was told to do the project again. She also told him that he ‘couldn’t just be an Aussie!’ My son came home extremely upset and crying and said I wish we could be Maltese or Greek. His words really hit home as he was feeling exactly as I was made to feel at school. After discussing the issue with the principal, the teacher was counseled but my son didn’t get an apology and the teacher is still a little bitter and twisted from the experience but we can live with that.
This is one of the many stories I could tell that should have made me a frightful racist but I’m not. I have friends from all walks of life and am eagerly interested in learning about their family histories (some of which aren’t pretty at all). Certainly my exposure to the many different kitchens of my friends has made me an exceptional cook and for that I am very lucky. Although, I have to say that my parents and grandparents who haven’t had the exposure to other cuisine that I have, our Christmas, birthdays and other celebrations were always jam packed with food and no one ever left hungry. I have lost count of the times when I have been told,”you skips don’t know how to cook like us w…”. Yeah! Wrong again.
I have a friend, ( who until recently was a close friend) who came to my house for a new years celebration. The food was exception and yes I cooked it myself and had bought some beautiful cheeses and other deli items as well. My Greek friend sat there, spoke to her husband the entire time in Greek despite no one else speaking Greek. At the party was another Aussie couple, a Ugandan and a Dutchman to name a few. She wouldn’t eat anything saying that she couldnt eat anything that’s not Greek and then left before midnight. She didnt even eat the Kalamata olives or the Dolmades! As her family was leaving, her son said we came here because you have a pool but now we are going to our Greek friends to celebrate midnight. I was gobsmacked, deeply hurt and furious, but I was gracious wishing them happy new year and rejoining my party. All of my guests noticed her rudeness and commented. Over the last year this behaviour has continued and become worse with her need to be “greek”. I don’t think everyone is like that but, this is an example of how the frantic need to be “Greek” can be detrimental to the psyche. My friend and her children were born here and have never been to Greece, in fact they have barely left Melbourne and maybe that is part of the problem. Her attitude has done irreparable damage to our friendship and to that of our children. They weren’t invited to this New Years Eve party.
My kids, unlike me at the same age, are very proud of their country, heritage and the opportunities they are afforded being Aussies. Every time my kids travel, and they love the experience, they are grateful of what they can come home to.
Teach your kids where their ancestors came from, feed them all kinds of food, give them the opportunity to learn a language but don’t ever forget that this is a great country with some of the worlds most amazing people (even us vanilla Aussies)…. And please be mindful that your efforts to infuse that culture are not at the detriment of what is right in front of your nose.
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There are a couple of ways to do it but they each take effort. Find a way to spend more time with your parents is top of the list. Find someone within your own area, not impossible. Plan for a trip in the future to look forward to. Good luck, it is well worth the effort.
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There are a couple of ways to do it but they each take effort. Find a way to spend more time with your parents is top of the list. Find someone within your own area, not impossible. Plan for a trip in the future to look forward to. Good luck, it is well worth the effort.
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My children are bi-ethnic. Their father is from a different ethnic background to my own; he is still not an Australian citizen; I am first generation Aus from an ethnic background. What does it make my children? Which cultural identity do they subscribe to? They have been brought up first and foremost as Australians but have been exposed to both cultures. What is interesting is that unlike my own tortured journey as a first generation Australian through the cultural identity minefield is that they know where they have come from but it is not something that plagues or worries them. They just ARE and concepts of cultural identity just don’t register with them at all. Frankly, they are a lot healthier for it. Too much guilt or navel gazing about where the great grandparents came from just stuffs them up.
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My approach is different. As a South African migrant of 18 years, we made a conscious decision to avoid all aspects of our country of birth and to integrate directly into Australian culture. We were welcomed with open arms by all Australians. It was only by chance we eventually met and made friends with other South African migrants. My son was born in South Africa but spent all of his 18 years here. He has absolutely no connection to his country of birth and identifies only as Australian. It’s unfortunate that his peers continually refer to his South African connection, even though he is as Australian as them.
My question is, why would you want to migrate to this wonderful place but continue to identify with your past. I consider myself an Australian who was born in South Africa, and never a South African living in Australia. There is a big difference.
I believe if more migrants adopted my philosophy, they would experience less racism and be more accepted into the community.
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I am an ethnic living in Australia for 12 years. I moved here when I was 14. I will always be who I was where I came from. I do not subscribe to this idea of forgetting your roots so there won’t be racism against you story. I am strongly attached to my roots, I still dont eat beef or bacon for cultural reasons, I pray at a temple every week, conduct my daily prayers three times wherever I am. And here’s a shocker: I DONT GET RACIALLY ABUSED! How absurd, right??
Just because you don’t like South Africa doesnt mean its inferior to Australia. Neither is any other country. Its people like you that give racists new ideas. You, my friend, are appalling.
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@ethnic, I’m glad you have also had a successful migration experience to Australia. And because of the freedom we all enjoy we are all free to par take in any cultural activities.
But doing what I did, doesn’t make me appalling!
What it did was help me cope with the trauma of leaving my country of birth. There’s nothing worse than a bunch of migrants sitting safely in Australia talking about “when-we” used to live in (insert country name here). That is why we consciously made the decision to integrate as quickly as possible and become Australians.
And having lived in both Australia and South Africa, I can honestly say that Australia is far superior! If it wasn’t, we wouldn’t have so many migrants arriving everyday!
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Hi anon for this, many migrants didnt wish to leave their countries. It was not a matter or ‘good riddance’ and as such a form of grieving occurs in the new country for the old. My mum experienced that. The cultural divide also means that while there may be differences between the two countries that make for a better life here, safety wise and materially, differences that they didnt seek can be confronting. For these reasons and many more many migrants do not rush to embrace all aspects of Australian culture as you did, but our history tells us that given time we can all live harmoniously together. It took the irish catholics migrants to oz over 100 years to get on with the protestants here but now they dont blink an eye at intermarriage even!
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I am an ethnic living in Australia for 12 years. I moved here when I was 14. I will always be who I was where I came from. I do not subscribe to this idea of forgetting your roots so there won’t be racism against you story. I am strongly attached to my roots, I still dont eat beef or bacon for cultural reasons, I pray at a temple every week, conduct my daily prayers three times wherever I am. And here’s a shocker: I DONT GET RACIALLY ABUSED! How absurd, right??
Just because you don’t like South Africa doesnt mean its inferior to Australia. Neither is any other country. Its people like you that give racists new ideas. You, my friend, are appalling.
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Your kids are Australian. I have known sooooo many 2nd or 3rd generation born Aussies who have inferiority complexes from feeling they are different. They have parents who have held onto the notion they are something other than Australian though they have lived here their entire life and want their kids to marry someone from the same village their parents were. Not so easy. I have a similar situations. I am 6th generation, my son is first. I have no family in Sydney so u am the only one who speaks English to him. His papa has family here and they all speak Serbian to him so at 2 he had learned both languages together. This had been important to us for him to be bilingual rather than have a primary or secondary language. He is Australian but he is surrounded by Serbs so naturally he is exposed to food and music and poetry and language. Important to note that his papa identifies him self ax completely Aussie after being here for 17 years. But he is also a Serb, that is in the blood. We won’t try to Prevent our son from being Aussie but we will also give him access to things culturally important to serbs wr celebrate australian xmas/new year and do it again for serb I figure that us the best we can do.
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Erg apologies for spelling. Trying to type on iPhone!!!
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Lou, being of Serbian heritage myself, i read your post with interest. Being first generation Aussie, i just became a mother, and hope to raise my children with a Serbian identity. My partner (a Serb) is not interested in the slightest in raising them Serb, but i am. Well, we do obsevre Orthodox Christmas, and slave. I, who hasnt grown up around the community, and who had friends from mainly other ethnicities, now have a sense of urgency about raising them with an influence of Serbian culture. I speak to them in Serbian, my partner in English. Yet i dont want them hanging around the Serbian community, as i want them to have a better, successful life, and for some reason, that doesnt equate with having Serbian friends – maybe its the cultural snobbery and expectations that have naturally repelled me?…. Anyway, it will be interesting over the years, to see how it all pans out. But for now, having a link to my culture is very important. Maybe the memories of being beaten and being called names for being a “wog”, despite being born here, and teachers not doing anything about that, has fostered resentment. Maybe that’s why most of my friends were also children of immigrants. it;’s interesting, despite having friends from all walks of life (ethnic that is), we all just clicked and “got each other”, because we were facing the same issues of being children of immigrants. However, that adversity has bred success, and i AM thankful to Australia for that.
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Hi LB, I am convinced the reason why my husband and his family have individually been so successful here is because they integrated and just got on with things. They don’t hang out with the ‘community’ either. They find most of them
speak only Serbian, expect favours and feel hard done by. My husbands Australian born friends who are first generation are like
this. They intermarry, all hang out with each other and talk about how racist people are for not giving them jobs….When background has nothing to do with it. We want our son to feel like everyone else and we also want him to speak to his grandparents. I dont think one excludes the other, what about you?
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I forgot to add that both my best friends are first generation, one of European and one south American background. Both deeply regret not having been taught their mothers native tongue. Better to teach the language from birth and they can decide how often they use it later in life.
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Its quite funny that while I reading this I was thinking how similar your neighbourhood was to mine and it WAS mine. I too grew up in a majority Greek (and Italian) neighbourhood near Monash uni, but I was one of the skips in the minority. I remember playing at the school’s playground of a weekend and seeing the Greek school students looking longingly out the window.
It can also be strange living in your “own country”, but being a minority and sometimes experiencing the prejudice that goes with it. I do get a little bit where the aborigines are coming from, as a result.
On the plus side I learned very early to be accepting of people from all walks of life and experiencing other people’s culture was wonderful.
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You ask the question, “will conflicts over cultural identity affect them as deeply as they have us?”
To be honest, from what you have written your children sound completely un-conflicted. They seem to be quite at ease in where they sit on the cultural continuum.
So maybe focus less on the need to be ‘Greek-Australian’ and just let them find whatever cultural identity works for them. It’s not something that can be taught or fostered, it’s something that develops from experience and something that will possibly change as the grow up.
I myself am a first generation Australian who has very mixed ‘cultural background’. I have never spoken a language other than English and have never had any sense of cultural identity confusion because I grew up in a house where it wasn’t an issue. It wasn’t discussed, it wasn’t something that I even thought about. I wasn’t expected to have ties to my parents homeland. I didn’t have to label myself as one or the other or some hyphenated cultural hybrid. I could just be and work out my own cultural identity without expectation.
Your children’s sense of identity will be different to yours. The reality is their ;greekness’ probably will be a ‘diluted’ version of yours, but I think that’s ok. Their sense of cultural identity will forge organically from their life experiences.
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One of the most significant things my parents did for my sense of cultural heritage was bring us back to my mother’s village to live for a year. I was 10 at the time. My 6 siblings and I went to school in the local village and had lessons in both English and my mother’s native tongue. I was young enough for the experience not to impede on our education (with a whole year of school missed back in Australia). But also old enough (10 years) for the experience to leave a deep imprint in my psyche. I love returning to my mother’s country and do so every 2 years with her. I brought my 2 yr old son with me last year and within days his accent had changed! Regular visits to the homeland will keep your family’s heritage alive and well.
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Tmax, Snap!! I did this too at exactly the same age – awesome experience, and got to travel around the country with my folks on long weekends sightseeing all the marvellous things there. Also had a two month holiday there when a bit younger during the aussie winter which i spent running about the beach with my cousins and getting up to speed with the language. My mum had tried to teach us but we resisted until then. This immersion was so great! We got to see that my mums country was a fun cool place to be and that anyone who said otherwise really just said it cause they didnt have a clue! It also fostered a life long love of travelling and exploring other countries (much to the detriment of my saving for a house deposit!) For anyone worried about losing that connection this is the most natural, fun way to foster a love for your kids ethnic background.
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I am 100% Greek on both sides of my family, but I am third generation Australian. My grandparents came to Australia with their parents (my great grandparents) when they were all babies/primary school aged, so they were like you. They spoke Greek to their parents, but not to my parents or me and my cousins.
Consequently, I never really learnt Greek properly. I dabbled in it a few times but I cant really understand it. This doesn’t mean that I don’t feel Greek though. I absolutely identify as being Greek. Our family traditions are all based around family, church and our island roots. That includes some quirky family specific traditions that we blame on being Greek. Not everything we do in our family is Greek, but there is still enough to carry it through.
I havent married a person of Greek heritage and I wonder if that will mean that my kids will ever have the feeling of “being Greek, but what is more important to me is for them to have a strong sense of family and belonging and the Greek influence on this is very strong. I think that is enough.
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Ok THIS is practically me, just a bit more complicated.
“Sadly, I’m not sure if my kids will continue these traditions and whether they will send their own kids to Greek school.” -Exactly how I feel!
I was born in Bosnia and Herzegovina, when I was 7 we moved to Switzerland, when I was 24 I moved to Australia, yet my ancestors are Ukrainian(mothers and fathers side).
The thing is many generations ago(just before the First World War) there was a big group of Ukrainians who migrated from Ukraine to former Yugoslavia(in my case now Bosnia). In my family everybody kept marrying within the Ukrainian community(so no one from another nation or cultural background), in fact even I did so. My husband has the same story(apart from the Switzerland bit). Now just to make it clear I married for love not to keep the tradition or something.
Anyway, I consider myself culturally/religiously Ukrainian, by passport I am half Swiss and half Bosnian. I had a lot of Bosnian/Yugoslav influence with the language(I still speak fluently Bosnian), music and food, plus we used to go at least once a year to visit my relatives, most of whom still live there.
But I also had a lot of Swiss life style influence, read Western World. Friends, my education plays a big part of who I am and how I think. However the Ukrainian part of me too. I love all our traditions when it comes to Christmas/Easter and a lot more and am more than determent to keep them up and teach them to my children.
As for the language: with my parents we spoke Bosnian, Ukrainian I heard only when visiting relatives or some friends. But when I came to Australia I learned to speak much better Ukrainian because my in husbands family that’s the one that is mostly spoken.
As for my kids and the ones of my husbands siblings. They speak Ukrainian and English, but when the kids play together it’s English that is mostly to be heard amongst them.
Sometimes I worry that they will forget the Ukrainian language and not be able to speak with their grandparents.
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My husband and I are both first gen Australian from a Sicilian background. We also grew up in a sort of limbo as we felt we didn’t really belong here or there. Our parents didn’t speak the language, attend parent/teacher meetings or even cook the same food as our Aussie friends. Their generation and those before them did not identify strongly with Italy as Sicilians were considered somewhat like Italy’s poorer southern cousins. When I visited Sicily recently I found no one younger than 60 who could understand me as they now all speak Italian. So I found it ironic that we are truer to our roots than today’s native Sicilians!
As for keeping up the traditions, while my kids can’t speak the language they enjoy many of the customs, food and culture ingrained by our upbringing. They have all married Aussie partners and feel thoroughly Australian except with a more unusual surname that invariably requires spelling out.
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I think that is quite true for many migrants. They hold on to the customs as they were when they lived there. However the people who still live there have progressed over time and things are done completely differently there now.
For example we have a lot of friends here in Australia who come from Italian backgrounds. Their weddings and childrens christenings are elaborate, huge parties with hundreds of people and so much food! However we were in Italy on holiday recently and the hotel we stayed in had 2 weddings on one night. They were both small and elegant! When I mentioned to a staff member in the lobby that I was surprised by how small the weddings were and that Italian weddings in Australia are huge affairs he laughed and said they dont do that any more in Italy!
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Yeah, I grew as part of the skip minority with mostly Greeks, and their parents were far stricter here than their cousins back in Greece copped.
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I agree completely that many migrants retain customs and traditions from their home country, completely oblivious that time moves on even in their homeland. My late grandmother used to be horrified to see women here smoking, drinking, wearing skimpy bikinis (shock! horror!) and short skirts, or couples living together before marriage. Meanwhile, back ‘home’ attitudes changed and the modern youth became far more liberal but here the older generation stayed stuck in their closed little ruts holding on to an era that was long gone.
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I can’t help thinking that people over-think this stuff. It’s a bloody miracle we’re all here in the first place so relax and enjoy it! Too much time spent worrying about ‘identity’ is too much time spent.
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I am a 3rd generation Greek Australian – my Mum is 1st generation, my Dad is 2nd. We probably had the best of both worlds – we were raised with a pretty “Greek” upbringing but had parents who were born here and understood the Australian way of life. I speak Greek pretty well. My husband not as well but still well enough. My kids don’t speak a word of it. I’m not sure what the solution is. When my son was born we only spoke Greek. Then he turned 2 and was still not talking much (in any language). When he started talking nobody could understand him. The speech therapists told me it wasn’t the two languages that were the problem. I knew that but how could I continue to speak in Greek to him when he couldn’t speak properly in English. He’s 6 now and still has an articulation problem. He’s improving but it’s one of those things that some kids just have. I really need to focus on his English. BUT I feel guilty that I’m not teaching him. Since we stopped speaking Greek when my daughter came along (nearly 4) she heard hardly any Greek. Now we need to decide whether to send him to Greek School. I’m very hesitant because he’s about to start Year 1 at school and his reading and writing in English isn’t as good as it should be… Do I focus on his English education or try and keep up the Greek??? I feel like we are losing something if I don’t..
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Personally, Marie, I would be teaching them both at the same time. And I’d also be trying to make them very much aware of how dependent western civilisation is on Greek culture. Even atomic science was first conceptualised by Greeks of the 5th century BC, including the theory of random atomic swerve which is today basically quantum physics. Our democratic values originate in ancient Athens, which was a very radical democracy indeed. All of this is so relevant to them, without even getting to learn the language. Best wishes and good luck.
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Hi Marie, i’m facing the same conandrum…my daughter is 3.5 and due to her speech delays/articulation issues i’ve started focusing on English much more in hope that it makes it easier for her. Has your son been in speech therapy since 2? How often does he go if you don’t mind me asking? My daughter goes once per week & due to her progress we are thinking of going fortnightly but i’m scared to make that call?! We do practice at home but not every day…with two kids under 4 and work part time it’s really hard to dedicate the time although it should be the priority! And like you, i feel bad for my second daughter because she’s not getting enough exposure to my native language anymore…
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I struggle with this a bit.
It’s good for the children to understand the background of their grandparents. And it’s always good to be able to speak more than one language. Kids need to know where they came from and feel connected to that.
But what right do we have to take their own identity from them?
My kids were born in Australia. They are therefore Australian. That is the basic truth. They go to school here, they speak English as do their friends.
They have all sorts of cultural influences but they are Australian. This is their nationality and I would be wrong to ask them to adopt the nationality of a country they have not even visited.
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I agree to a point. My mother was born in Yugoslavia, however it had only been Yugoslavia for three months before she was born there. Her parent were born in the same city when it was the free state of Fiume. Her grandparents on one side were born in the same city when it was the Austro- Hungarian Empire. Her parents left the city when she was 6 months old and she live in a displaced persons camp in Genoa for 18 months she then travelled here to live in a refugee camp for 6 months. What should she embrace?
Don’t even start me only fathers family they belong to a tribe who’s culture still exists but they haven’t had a country of their own for a few hundred years.
Culture is more complicated than simple pronouncements, parents have the right and in some ways duty to show their children what heritage they have. My one caution would be not to use it to fuel hatred for others or as an exclusionary device.
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Please don’t refer to yugoslavia it does not exist. It is the former republic of yugoslavia. Thanks.
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It was Yugoslavia at the time her mother was born there, is what I believe she’s saying. I am fairly sure she isn’t saying that’s its present name. My aunty’s husband’s family (he is about 60) openly name Yugoslavia as their country of birth / origin.
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Why do you care?
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I decided to uproot my whole family one year ago and move to Honk Kong. One of the driving reasons was to give my children a more culuturally abundant life. To make them aware of other languages and othet cultures. To make them aware that some people in this world do it tough. I hope – in the end – this makes my children more culturally aware as l think you add another dimension to your life and your thought processes. My bl
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My husband is Greek and I worry for our children too – but they spend a lot of time with Yiayia and Papou and will be going to Greek school too. My twins are 4 1/2 and they know some basic words in Greek and can count to 12…better than me! They interact a little with the Greek community, mainly their grandparents friends, Greek dances and the annual Christmas party. I think they pick up a lot just by listening to the language being spoken, not actually being taught as such. I have picked up a little, but I must admit that most of the Greek words I know are foods and swear words!
My husband always said before we had kids that he was only going to speak to them in Greek – it never happened and and I am kind of glad. We do live in an English speaking country, and while I am glad they are learning Greek I am also glad that they went into school being able to speak the language that they were going to be taught in (unlike my husband).
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I am the daughter of italian migrants. That sense of just not quite fitting in to either culture, I thought I would grow out of it but I think in my 40s it’s even worse. I married an Aussie and I send my children to Italian school on Saturdays. Like your children they protested at first but now enjoy going. They are very proud of their background and are desperate to go to Italy. It helps that they are mixing with children like them at Italian school(normal school is very anglo where we live). Now I just need to save up the money take them to Italy…..
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Allow them to be ‘cosmopolitans’. This word was adopted by Greek philosophers of the 5th century BC to describe their own position as citizens of the cosmos. They did not regard themselves as Greeks, in particular. Let it be so for your children. However, as one who is literate in Classical Greek and all authors who wrote in this language, I can say that it is the finest, most eloquent language I have ever learned.
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