It’s the reassurance millions of parents have been wanting to hear.
A new study, conducted by the Murdoch Children’s Research Institute (MCRI), has found that controlled crying poses no long-term risks to the health of babies and infants.
The term ‘controlled crying’ is of course a contentious one. For many parents it conjures up images of parents shutting the nursery door and leaving their baby to cry for hours on end — all night if need be.
But in 2012, ‘controlled crying’ (or controlled comforting) refers to gentle sleep school programs for babies over six months where parents are going in and out of the nursery every few minutes, providing plenty of reassurance to baby.
This from Brisbane Times:
CONTROLLED crying improves infants’ sleep, reduces mothers’ depression and does not cause any long-term harm, a Melbourne study has shown.
Researchers from the Murdoch Childrens Research Institute analysed outcomes at six years for children whose parents used behavioural techniques to regulate their sleeping as infants.
The techniques – designed to teach babies to fall asleep by themselves – included controlled crying, in which parents put their baby to bed tired and left them for short periods even if they cried, returning to reassure and settle them if necessary. Another technique adopted by parents in the study was ”camping out”, in which a parent sat next to their baby’s cot on a chair while the baby fell asleep and the parent slowly moved out of the room in a gradual process over a few weeks.
Writing in the journal Paediatrics, the researchers said there was strong evidence that the techniques reduced infant sleep problems and associated maternal depression for up to 16 months afterwardsBut they said unproven concerns about potential long-term effects on children’s mental health had provoked vigorous debate and limited uptake of the techniques, despite their effectiveness. Their study, the first to follow up children as late as age six, compared outcomes for children whose parents used the behavioural techniques at age eight to 10 months to those whose parents did not.
The researchers found there were no differences in the mental and behavioural health, stress levels, and relationships of children across the two groups five years later.
Lead researcher Anna Price said parents and health professionals should therefore feel confident about the effectiveness and safety of sleep interventions in infants aged six months and older.
Are these controlled crying programs for all parents? No. But it’s an option to seriously consider if you are suffering from chronic sleep deprivation.
The fact is that chronic sleep deprivation can unravel families. It affects your ability to think clearly and stay rational. It affects your relationship with your baby. Your other children. Your confidence. It impacts your marriage. Your work. Your partner’s work. And, of course, sleep deprivation can put mothers at a greater risk of developing Post Natal Depression.
It’s no surprise that we’re fans of gentle controlled crying programs here at Mamamia. Our very first eBook “The Gift of Sleep” harnesses the wisdom of sleep whisperer Elizabeth Sloane and her 20 years of experience in teaching more than 10,000 babies how to self-settle.
The Gift of Sleep reveals Elizabeth’s ENTIRE 3-day program – showing you step-by-step how to teach your baby (from 6 months – 2 years) to sleep through the night, self-settling every time they naturally wake without the need for props like patting, rocking, feeding or re-plugging dummies every hour.
In the end, all parents need to do what is right for their family. And to respect the choices made by other parents.
But what do you think? Do these latest research findings encourage you to try a controlled comforting program with your baby? What lengths have you gone to to get your baby to sleep? For more information about The Gift of Sleep click here.
For more information on the study’s findings, check out our sister site iVillage.com.au.







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Its called CONTROLLED CRYING, in a controlled environment…
now I dont know but it sounds like some people just think its locking your baby in a room and letting them histerically scream for hours when it is so far from that…and if thats what was i doubt it would be called ‘controlled crying’.
Everyone can have their own opinion but just make sure you read the facts from both sides before judging…and if you still dissagree well thats fine, just dont tell people thay are wrong for thinking differently from you!!!
I have just recently completed the ‘gift of sleep’ program and it has just been the biggest blessing we are on our 3rd week of 6pm-6am sleep. It has changed our lives, my partner and I are so much more relaxed and closer than ever and our lil man has a little sparke in his eye that we have never seen before.
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An excellent critique of the Murdoch institute research. http://www.evolutionaryparenting.com/a-not-so-blind-review-of-the-recent-cio-research/
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Perhaps consider the position paper from the AAIMHI (Australian Institute of infant Mental Health) and also read some of the latest research in Trauma and attachment. Including the infant forming a secure attachment to their primary caregiver.
http://www.aaimhi.org/inewsfiles/controlled_crying.pdf
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These studies are often done using children in Romania orpanages. Apples and oranges.
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The study is based on self reporting. Parents who used cc were asked about their kids’ behavior at 6 years old. Of course they would answer positively.
The concern about cc is to do with brain networks being established when children are 2. The reward pathways are affected when children’s cries are not answered. This can lead to reward pathways behavior being affected in later (adult) life. Behaviors such addiction, gambling, alcohol and drug abuse are outcomes.
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Oh please… I am not really a fan of controlled crying but this is just rubbish “behaviours such as addiction, gambling, alcohol and drug abuse are outcomes”???.
The biggest contributor to whether a child will be an alcoholic/drug addict is their genetic make up and the age they start drinking/abusing drugs.
I’m all for debate but lets make sure we are not making claims that simply are not true.
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Really? Serioulsy. Really?
Drug addicvtion is based on genes alone and age of onset?
Really?
I wonder what developmenta; psychologist would say abouit?- oh I know!…It is more likely to be an interaction between genes and environment. In fact, your suggestion is incredibly dangerous if people would believe, Just because you have the genes for something does not mean it will be swicthed on. Our environment is what will make the difference.
Genes alone can not account for everything. That is why twin adoption studies have shown that it may account for 25%.
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I tried it with my first child and it simply didnt work. She was a nightmare to get to sleep until she was about 18 months. Once she was asleep she was sleeping through the night from about 8 weeks but getting her there would take hours some nights. She just wouldnt settled and we tried every trick in the book. She’s now 13 and still doesnt need a lot of sleep so sometimes I think some babies are hardwired to sleep a certain way.
CC did work beautifully with my other children and very easily too. And they love their sleep.
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It seems to me that you’re just substituting terms in order to make parents feel less guilty about letting their children cry. Controlled crying, controlled comforting – same thing!
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I found this by the author of the ‘No Cry’ Sleep solution books:
The recent “study” on cry-it-out by Australian researchers is NOT accurate science, and it is severely flawed. 31% of the participants dropped out. Only PART of the group used CIO (the others used a parent-sits-by-the-bed approach.) The cry-it-outers “told the researchers” that their baby was not negatively affected by sleep training. (As if they would say otherwise?) The saddest quote in the ABC
news report on this: “After 11 months of nightly crying, Stone’s daughter finally started to sleep through the night.” 11 months of nightly crying!?! Since gentle, respectful, “No-Cry” sleep methods can help a baby sleep through the night in 3 months or less – with NO tears or trauma, I feel this study actually proves the opposite of what it intends. – Elizabeth Pantley
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I have the No Cry sleep book, and Pinky Makays and just about every other gentle sleep book on the market and NOTHING worked for my 3rd child. He screamed every night for hours on end until finally at 12 months we gave in and and tried controlled crying. It worked that night and we have not looked back. There’s nothing in that quote that says the parents weren’t trying everything they could to try and settle their poor child as we were with ours.
It’s easy to be judgemental when you have a child who is soothed by nursing or patting or rocking or cuddles – but what do you do when your child isn’t??
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A bit off topic but…
My 14 month old has always been an AMAZING sleeper although occassionally i hear her mobile music playing during the night and assume she has bumped it. Well, tonight while I was reading this article to send me off to sleep she started crying. (hello, irony?) I gave her a minute but she persisted. Perplexed, ( she would normally be back asleep within a minute), I went in. She had bumped her mobile into the off position and was unsuccessfully trying to turn it back on. She was hysterical. It just occurred to me she must be turning it on when she wakes up to put herself back to sleep. What a self reliant little thing!! Now if only I could get myself to nod off…
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Thanks everyone! My babies are well past all of it and were both pretty good sleepers anyway. We did need to do controlled crying one night with my son and it worked, but I never know if it’s just a stage they grow out of – seems like every few months their sleep patterns change for a week or so then they readjust on their own. More just a curiosity I suppose! I do think that many people practice some form of controlled crying without realizing it- sometimes you just can’t drop everything to get there straight away. I always let them cry, (they are older now), for a minute or so if they wake at night because sometimes they are still actually asleep and going in would wake them up. Horses for courses I suppose.
In the words of the eternally fabulous George Michael – all we have to see is that I don’t belong to you, and you don’t belong to me. Yeah yeah! (to each their own).
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I’m just going to love your fabulous George Michael reference!!!!!
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Glad someone else liked it- it’s my favorite workout song ATM!!!
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I wondered if this study would be mentioned here.mums and bubs are individual. If “wearing your baby”, feeding them to sleep or rocking them to sleep works, go for it.
Please, though, don’t put the parents that use cc down. I’ve seen some very tired and unhappy mothers, who radically change after their baby’s sleep/settling routine has been changed using cc. You should be able to get in person help from your local maternal and child health centre. We cater for the under 4s.
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Always get so many facts out of your comments Faybian, makes me wish I was reading these articles when mine were younger!!
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I did controlled crying back in 1986 or so when Dr Christopher Green first wrote about it and my son was over 12 months old. By the time my second son was 9 months old, Green had brought out a second book that said it was fine to do it at 6 months. My son was waking every hour and sitting bolt upright instead of trying to go back to sleep. From 7 to 9 months my husband and I took 4 hour shifts where one would get up every hour and the other would do the other 4 so that we would each get 4 hours straight sleep. It was taking it’s toll. It took 1 night of controlled crying to solve the problem. It changed my life. Sure it is hard to listen to your baby cry but you don’t have to do it for long and if you are supporting each other, you get through it and everybody wins!
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I LOVE Dr. Green. His advice is invaluable for parents of toddlers!
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As a newly pregnant woman, can someone please tell me why you dont do controlled crying in the first 6 months? SIDS risk? What then are common options? I am worried about chronic lack of sleep- sure i know it’s going to happen but i an awful person when really sleep deprived!
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Newborns generally don’t have a sleep pattern (other than to sleep better during the day sometimes!). They also require feeding 2-3 hourly at night, so young babies are not candidates for controlled crying.
Young babies also have sleep patterns that change a lot during the first 6 months, so they may sleep well for a while and then not a few weeks later. By about 6-8 weeks they have a growth spurt and may start to have a longer sleep somewhere in a 24 hour cycle and not always at night. By about 3 months of age, they start being able to self settle, so an ideal time to decide which settling “routine” works for you and bub to help set you up for a while.
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No-one is happy when they are sleep deprived – but you can survive knowing that it is just a temporary state – well that’s how I got through the first year of my first baby, before I eventually tried CC. With number 2 his sleep patterns were up and down and I just focused on the fact I just had to grin and bear it until he was six months – then used CC on him, he was stubborn so it took over a week but has been sleeping 12 hours ever since. So fingers crossed you will get a good sleeper but if not – it is only a window of your life and there are other pleasure to gain from having a newborn albeit in the haze of sleep deprivation.
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Try not to get sleep-deprived as well. Sleep when your baby sleeps! It’s hard work on your body breastfeeding and looking after the baby early on. Unless you really need to be up and at work or something, don’t worry about it and sleep when baby does.
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I just contacted a reputable sleep school for my child and I. Baby is 8 months. I decided not to participate in their program because they really felt that all babies and mums are the same despite their history or individual needs. The program is not tailored in any way and I really cannot justify a one size fits all approach. Many friends have great success with the program and I wish them well. I have to be honest though and say that their parenting style differs from mine greatly and while I respect it as their choice for their family it is not for me. Intersestingly, while I accept their choices for sleep training their children they vilify me for mine because I do not beleive in sleep school!!
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Mmmmmmmmmmm
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I wonder why your having issues ? Maybe you should listen to the experts, they may actually know something.
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Funny, I always thought mothers were the experts when it came to their babies….
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I know my babies didn’t come with manuals, I also know I made many, many mistakes with my babies, particularly my first as I had no idea about the signs of tiredness, no idea about routines, thought it was a lovely bonding experience that he fell asleep on the breast, until it was the ONLY way he would fall asleep> so yes I was a mother, but in no way an expert and wish I had “experts” to guide me.
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Clearly I am already out of the loop – how is controlled comforting different to controlled crying.
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In my own opinion leaving a child intentionally to cry for 1-2-….10 mins is a risk. Correct me if I am mistaken
But, that study simply asked parents what thier opinion of their child was. There was no professional observation. This to me spells biase, as self report ,easures need to be considered lightly.
That is why control comforting reasonated with me and felt “right” for my baby who was waking up 8-15 times a night at 8months old. I was going mental! and the shame and guilt from control crying was way too much for me. So my friend told me about this tecqnique where you allow your baby to cry for as long as they need to whilst you laying next to them, or patting them. Soothing them the whole time with words like ” your just having these big feelings…. your doing really well… etc….”
It worked really well and instantly. In fact after the first night. The difference is that your simply allowing your baby to have those feelings they have now been conditioned to not have via control metho0ds such as rocking, breastfeeding, dummies etc.
I know for me that my baby cried for an hour and I stayed completely calm and in a loving, peaceful place. If I had added up the minutes my baby would normally cry after waking up that many times, it would be at least 1-2 hours. So, it just seemed as though rocking, breastfeeding etc was just holding him back from experiencing the feelings he needed. It was almost as if he was hell bent on experiencing them, but my guilt meant that i did not allow them.
So, being with him whilst he cried was the best option for my baby. It worked so well
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In my opinion there is no difference, it’s the same thing…the name has been changed to sound more politically correct. Even the specialist they spoke to on the Today show this morning on this research said it was the same thing.
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I did CC loosely based on Dr Chris Green – I had a watch out and waiting till crying was non-stop for 2 minutes before going in to settle and say it is sleep time etc etc. Which could often take up to an hour. He would cry for a minute, stop for 30 seconds, cry for 20 seconds, stop, start, stop start. Amazing how long it actually was before he was crying for that long. Without a watch it seems lieka minutes crying takes forever. No way I could deal with 10minutes STRAIGHT crying though. So the 2 minute rule worked great for me and both my 2 babies
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The debate is raging on this issue again with this study. I say – do whatever works for your whole family. You can’t look at the baby in isolation. Mum and dad need sleep to function, they also need to feel comfortable with what they are doing, siblings need to sleep so they can go to school. I’m currently up twice a night with my 6 month old but everyone in my house is getting enough sleep, so I’m fine with that. We are not concerned about the ‘sleeping all night’ goal at the moment. Do what works best for you, and try not to judge others I reckon. Besides, with parenting you are always only one child, one episode, one developmental stage away from doing the thing you are so venously criticising right now.
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There’s a lot of talk here about trusting your instincts. There were plenty of times when my instincts were telling me to leave the crying baby, walk out the door and never have come back. Should I have trusted my instincts? Or are there “right” instincts and “wrong instincts”, in which case it’s just another way of judging?
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As someone diagnosed with anxiety, I know that I shouldnt trust my instincts all the time!
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I gave in and did control crying on my daughter (now almost 7.5) when she was 12 months old. I did it in stages, when my husband was away on a 5-day business trip. I had been up 2-3 nights since her birth, which actually turned out to be not so bad when I had my second baby, who did not ever take to CC and started sleeping through age FIVE (yes). And I did have PND with him, and some problems in our marriage.
But getting back to our daughter, I was uncomfortable with doing control crying all night on the first night, so I first taught her to fall asleep without the breast. She cried a lot the first evening but I was in every few minutes. It was hard and I almost gave in but she fell asleep within 40 min. Second night it was 20 min, then 10. By the fourth night she was falling asleep on her own rightaway and then easily learned to sleep through since she already knew how to self-settle. Since then (6.5 yrs) she has been the BEST sleeper, falls asleep on her own and sleeps 10-12 hrs every night unless she is sick.
It does not work on all babies though, and did not work for our son. It is also hard, especially the first night when there is most crying. BUT it worked wonders for our girl and she is a bright, happy and confident child with no emotional problems that I can see. I would recommend not going the whole hog the first night though, I found my approach to be gentler and worked a treat. Good luck to anyone feeling they would like to give it a go.
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I mean 2-3 times A NIGHT for the first year…
Btw, I read that control crying/comforting is recommended for babies aged 6-12 months, not under 6 months.
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I think that sometimes doing some form of sleep training is the lesser of two evils. I actually agree with contolled comforting. In fact, I wish I had done it sooner with my child. As, using the boobs, dummy, rocking etc, can also create addictions too and stop the baby from experiencing the feelings they need to feel. Imagine as an adult each time you had a feeling, someone shoved food in your mouth or wine? It would be damaging too.
I do not agree with controlled crying. However, if it is the lesser of two evils, than so be it. But I think you can get the same results with control comforting.
What I do not like about Controlled crying is that its pushed on you straight away by nurses and the wider community. A girl in my mothers group was bragging on how she lets her baby cry whilst she goes outslde to do the laundry and he was just 2 weeks old. The the rest in my mothers group started to do it. I felt like it become a trophy of being able to get your child to sleep and if you did not let your child to cry than your somehow weak and just babying your child too much!
You can’t win either way.
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I think there sometimes seems to be a misconception about the term “controlled crying”. When my twin girls were almost 12 months old my husband and I was still getting up 6-7 times a night trying to console our babies to get them back to sleep. We eventually went to Trisillean and implemented “controlled crying” and I have to say those women are angels. After 4 days there with the most wonderful support our beautiful girls were sleeping right through the night (I mean 10 hours uninterrupted sleep). It’s not about leaving your baby crying for hours on end, we comforted them and made sure they knew we were there every few minutes, but also made them aware that it was time for sleep by not picking them up every 5 minutes (this took hours at times). A lot of the time we tend to give up after a few minutes because we are in a state of exhaustion, but by having someone there to support you and tell you that they and you are ok was a wonderful help. You are the parent and your baby learns from what we teach them.
I felt such shame going to tresillian as I felt like a failure as a mother because I could not get my OWN children to sleep. Once I was there and I seen how many other families were going through the same sleep deprivation as we were is was so comforting to know we were not alone.
I think my point is, there is help out there and all this criticism about controlled crying is unwarranted as it in fact does save people’s sanity including my own.
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Tresillian is wonderful. I love what the French do. The book “French children don’t throw food” refers to the practice of pausing before you go to your child during the night. I did this from the beginning with my second and most times she would fall back asleep within a few minutes by herself. If she didn’t then I would pick her up. She is 9 months now and has slept through the night for months. I think with my first I was often fully waking her up by going in too quickly and this prolonged the process so I needed to use the cc method. I think contrOlled crying is a fabulous tool if you need it but hopefully you can avoid it if you allow your Bub to learn how to sleep well by themselves from early on.
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I always believed controlled crying to be just a load of dung. What used to annoy me about the literature I was given was that none of it seemed to say, ‘trust your own instincts’. It all seemed to be ‘do this, do that’.
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I don’t think I’d want to be trusting my instincts if I was suffering extreme sleep deprivation- if at that point I had the mental power to think at all.
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with my first, I was too scared to do cc and thought it would damage him. The result was he did not sleep through until he was 1 year old and we had been to a controlled comforting course. I had bad anxiety which was centred around sleep so thought that if I let him cry during the night, I could miss out on hours of sleep only to feed him in the end anyway. May as well just feed him quickly and get back to sleep quickly – much easier.
I am now pregnant again and will definitely start controlled comforting earlier – I can very clearly see the link between sleep deprivation and depression/anxiety.
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I have a 9 month old baby right now who is sick with a cold. On a good night, I wake up 2-3 times/night (since birth). On a bad night…well, honestly I lose count. Right now with all of us sick, it’s been bad nights.
However, for the life of me I cannot try controlled crying. I find the stress of hearing my baby cry, coupled with the worry about long term effects on him outweigh the temporary lack of sleep on my part. When I really feel crappy, I take another swig of coffee and think “At least in 10 years I can look back and say I know I did what I feel is best for him.” No regrets.
Parenting is tough at times. I do not frown upon parents who allow their children to cry it out…sometimes I wish I could try it and see if sleep really will improve with my son. But that said, no matter how well studies can reassure mothers and parents, I think there is more to be said for gut feelings and parenting instincts.
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So true, everyone is different and it is so hard at times just to keep getting out of bed when you feel shattered beyond anything you’ve ever felt before. We did controlled crying with our first child at twelve months and she begun sleep ten hours at night. With our second child, we weren’t able to make it happen (even with two stints at sleep school!) – at eighteen months he is finally beginning to sleep in four-five hour blocks and I am only getting up to him once a night in the last couple of weeks. He has come to this point all by himself and although I have often wished there has been a more efficient way to have taught him to self-settle, he has in fact done it in him own terms and in his own time. While it has been an exhausting eighteen months and i only feel now as if I am emerging from the fog, I feel as though we couldn’t have done it differently. What worked for one of my children – hasn’t worked for another – everyone parent and child team is different.
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My husband and I control comforted both our boys, and it was a great choice for us and the kids. #1 was sleeping for only 2 hours at a time, day or night, at 8 months old. So for eight months, the most sleep I had had in one continuous block was 2 hours. Cue extremely tired, cranky mumma.
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Within 3 days of using the Sleepeasy Solution methods he was sorted. No more waking up randomly, taking 40 minutes of rocking and patting and dummy shoving to get him back to sleep.
With #2, I started at 6 months without hesitation as he was exactly the same. Easy as pie, first night was an 8 hour sleep with no feed!
My sister-in-law has a little boy, now 7 months, who seemed to follow my boys’ patterns to the letter. After having her stay with us for a week, seeing her distress, watching her grit her teeth every time he woke after 40 minutes, I suggested would she like us (hubby and I) to help her try the routine we used. I made it clear that if she didnt like it, if it wasnt working, then we could just stop. No harm done.
Roll on 3 weeks later and he sleeps through most nights, has 4 hours combined nap time during the day! WooHoo for all of us
For her, it was the fear of what was actually going to happen that stopped her trying earlier. Now, she wonders why she left it that long!
Each to their own though – parenting is a tough gig!
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It just never ends. I am so glad I didn’t have to raise my kids in this new super judgemental environment. I chose to breast feed. I also chose to use disposable nappies. My son was having some solids at 4 months. They all slept next to my bed as small babies. And when they were a little older I used controlled crying.
My mum , friends and family were all supportive of my decisions. They knew I would make the best decisions I could for my family. This site has been such an eye opener for me. I will be super vigilant to protect my daughter as best I can when she has her own kids. So hard for new mums today.
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Well said
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In my experience people are only judgemental online. I have a 5 month old and everyone in my mothers group is extremely supportive of each other. We understand everyone is different and offering things work for different families.
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I am absolutely amazed at the very strong views against controlled comforting / crying held by people on various Australian internet forums and in discussions online. I have things such as ‘people who practice it should be flogged’; ‘it’s akin to child abuse’; ‘I would NEVER let my child cry.’
Yes, letting a baby cry unattended for hours and hours in an unloving environment is a form of child abuse.
But controlled comforting or crying, and occasionally ‘cry it out’ – when there is instinctively no other option at that point – is hardly abusive. In fact, it’s occasionally a necessary part of parenting a child!
When my boy was born, I found it very difficult to allow him to cry, as I am sure every new mother does. So I didn’t let him cry. But as he gets older, and now at six months, it’s quite clear that his crying is sometimes simply protestation that he doesn’t like what it is I want him to do, whether it be go to sleep, wait for five minutes while I put a load of laundry on, wait two minutes while I fix his breakfast, sit in his car seat until we get where we need to go, etc.
Living the so-called motherhood dream now, it’s quite clear that babies cry, and some cry and protest more than others. Mine, who I love beyond belief, is sometimes a very impatient little boy, who definitely has his own strong personality, and he doesn’t hold back in loudly letting it be known when he’s not happy with what I’ve chosen for him. But, as the mother, I know when he needs to go to sleep, and I know it better than he does. And as the mother, it’s my prerogative and obligation to give him the things he needs for a healthy, happy existence. Five, 10, sometimes 20 minutes of loud protestations and shouting from him may need to be endured; but this is part of the parent / child experience.
Part of being a human being, at ANY age, is learning that we need to put up with things we don’t like sometimes. There is no reason why babies should be exempt from this in reasonable circumstances. They are human beings as well, and have a lifelong journey of learning ahead of them that starts from the moment they’re born. For us, the first difficult thing our baby boy has had to become comfortable with was that sleep is a requirement for good, healthy functioning, not just for him, but for his parents as well.
We’ve been using a sleep program for the past few weeks, and it is working wonders. He is happy, we are happy, and sleep time is not a horrid, difficult experience. In fact, it hasn’t been difficult for some time now.
Thank goodness I am confident enough that I knew better than to buy into some of the extreme beliefs the online baby opinionators hold. It can be a lonely existence being a new mother, though, and I know of some young mums who measure their self-worth as a mother through how well they can adhere to what these opinionated and occasionally uneducated forums users have to say about mothering. One of these poor women has an 18 month old boy who has never been able to sleep without his mother laying on a mattress next to him, goes to bed whenever he feels like it, and wakes often during the night. To me, this seems unhealthy for the entire household, particularly his incredibly tired and guilt-filled mother who feels overwhelming guilt if she ever lets her son cry.
One final point: controlled comforting has quite likely been used – without a label of course – since the beginning of humanity, and we haven’t died out as a race yet. It seems like common sense, and again I say, I can’t understand the uproar and bullying that goes on over this topic amongst women in some Australian online baby forums.
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One of the most sensible and well thought out responses to this issue that I have ever read. I agree with everything you’ve said
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you could be my best friend…
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Controlled comforting is not for everyone but I do think every mum has a different level of tiredness and sleep deficit that she can tolerate. Some mums are okay to function on a day to day basis with little and broken sleep and don’t find it affects them much (I have friends like this). Others like myself, don’t operate well at all on 4 hours a night of broken sleep for months on end. Before I had my kids I fantasized to myself that they would be great sleepers, they would know from birth how to self settle and would sleep for 4 hours or so each night, only waking once or twice to be breastfed. What nice fantasy, unfortunately reality was babies who were breastfed on demand until 6 months, who then started waking up one to two hours every night to be comfort fed back to sleep, for months on end. It was pure torture and our whole family suffered the fallout of my sleep deprivation. Controlled comforting was a godsend to us. My boys learned gently and gradually how to settle themselves when they woke up during the night and more importantly, I learned the difference between a grizzly cry and a cry of real distress from a baby who is sick or hurting. By the age of one, both my boys were fabulous sleepers and since then have only ever woken up during the night if they are sick, cold or have teething pain. And I can actually function properly and be there for my family mentally and emotionally.
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The “Australian Baby Whisperer” Sheyne Rowley has written her “Dream Baby Guide” after years of successful work in this area.
Her techniques have brought wonderful relief from these problems and is well worth a look.
Whenever I’ve been asked about what to expect after having a new baby I’ve always said – “be careful of sleep deprivation, it’s much, much more serious than people realise; try to get someone to care for your baby while you get some extra sleep”.
Not wishing to be simplistic, but it’s usually the case that happy, loving parents produce happier children and that happy, contented mums have happier, contented babies.
Any techniques with a proven track record must be the best ones to follow.
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Hi – just wondering if anyone has had any success using cc for day sleeps? My 8month son is an ok night sleeper (still has his moments!) but I find the day sleeps extremely difficult – he just has little catnaps and is then cranky for the rest of the day. Anyone had any luck improving day sleeps??
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I’ve been using Tizzie Hall’s routines for a couple of weeks now and my son sleeps for around 4.5 hours every day (he’s six months – yours would need less sleep than this). It looks like the trick is to make sure there are no sleep aids in place, like patting, rocking, boob, milk, dummies etc.
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Hi Steph,
I found with both my boys, once they got settled into a really good night-time sleep pattern, their day sleeps also got much better. But there was a bit of a lag period between sorting out their night sleeping and the improvement to their day sleeps. My eldest boy was a terrible day sleeper, always catnapped and slept badly at night too. But once his night sleeping was sorted and he started sleeping through the night consistently – around 7-8 months – then his day sleeps slowly also got better. I think he stopped catnapping during the day around the age of one and started having naps of around 1.5 hours instead. Of course then his day sleeps became too long and by the age of about two and a half, he got the stage where he’d sleep for 3 hours if we let him, which affected his night time sleeping! It’s a juggling act, no matter what age they are
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Hi Steph, I had a similar issue with my son. The thing that ended up working for me was putting him down at the same time every day. 9am and 1pm for us at that age. Once his body clock got used to going down at those times he was a dream to get to sleep and stayed asleep for at least an hour, usually a little more. A big change from the serial catnapper he once was. Also, I think when he started moving around a bit more he slept longer too. Good luck!
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This worked for us too – once we had a routine with set times, the day sleeping just sorted itself out. It did take a few weeks though.
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I took a while to realise that I needed to be at home with my second bub, oce the grew out of the tiny baby stage (where they are so portable and sleep anywhere!) to get her to sleep well for her long daytime nap. My first would have their day nap in the pram, car anywhere right up to 1yo! The other needed to be in their cot at home from about 6mths. Restricts outings somewhat, but at least she’s well rested and I get a few hours peace to do things around the house, play with my older child or just crash!
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Hi Steph, I used it with both my boys for day sleeps, otherwise they would automatically wake after the first sleep cycle. I would pat them while they got relaxed and sleepy then leave the room BEFORE they actually fell asleep and hope that they would go off to sleep. At first they would protest (cry) when I stopped patting, so I would go straight back in again and start the patting again (sometimes repeating this process numerous times) but after a week or so they seemed to get the message and would settle themselves into sleep after the first episode of patting. It was also important to remember not to engage them in conversation, even better if you can pat them without them looking at you (they know you are there ‘cos of the patting but you also need to reinforce the message that its not play/awake time). It was a little hard/tiring at the time but so worth it. They are great sleepers now!! Just a tip, it was good to have another adult in the house for support and encouragement when I started this process with each of them, so maybe take that into consideration when/if you feel ready to try.
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i guess the thing is everyone makes the decision that is right for their child with the information they have at the time…. in a short 3 years (the gap between my midgets) rules changed dramatically for the rules of pregnancy, breastfeeding and sleep habits.. when i was in hospital with my first co-sleeping was encouraged now forbidden almost… its impossible to keep up with the changing information and you make the choices that work best for your own family provided you arent endangering yourself or your children!
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I’m looking forward to all the comments here. This topic always results in some strong debate! All I know is, whether you use controlled crying or not, it is absolutely fundamental to teach children in their first 12 months of life to sleep well and deep to ensure a lifetime of good sleeping.
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I’m not saying whether i’m for or against, because, that is invalid and no need for the debate. However, I don’t feel that they can classify 6 years as ‘long term’
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- in research terms, 6 years is actually quite extensive. Longitudinal research is very hard to conduct due to funding and time commitments.
- developmental problems, attachment issues, and some mental health problems are apparent by 6 years of age.
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Neither would I.
But other (unrelated), much longer-term research studies have shown children’s behaviours and personalities at young ages (like 6) can often predict their behaviours and personalities as adolescents and adults.
It’s not scientifically tested, but if you combine the two…
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This is just until the next study comes out, one that has looked at more children for longer, and contradicts this information.
I know a mum whose had her first child at 19, 22 years ago. She fell pregnant unexpectedly with baby number four to her second husband a few years ago, and now attends the same playgroup I do. She is always saying how much has changed since she had her first child, the medical advice is completely different and that there seem to be a lot more ‘rules’ now than there were before.
I guess the point I’m trying to make is this – as a parent, if you know you are making the best decision you can for your family, based upon doing the right thing for your child, you have to ignore these studies.
Control crying, co-sleeping, breastfeeding, bottle-feeding, dummy or no dummy, sling, pram, disposable nappies, cloth nappies, scented wipes, unscented wipes, baby sign language, gymbaroo, baby massage – I could go on and on and on. I have heard mums ‘discussing’ and stressing about all of these things, and what they don’t realise is that the fact that they care enough to worry is probably the only thing that really affects their baby.
My nan, who raised thirteen children, has told me from the time my babies were born, that no doctor knows my baby like I do, no book applies to every baby and one piece advice/solution will work for everyone. I try hard to listen to this advice from my nan, and while I make sure I try and read a wide range of information, I just take the bits that suit me and forget the rest.
If this study provides you with a bit of peace, than that’s great. But one study should not be the determining factor in the decisions we make to raise our children, because there always be another ‘study’ with another outcome or suggested practice, and I am bit fed up of people triumphantly holding up ‘studies’ to prove a point when, to be honest, it would be just as easy to find a different study to contradict this one.
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This is why we have meta studies- they analyse the results of a bunch of studies done over years and sometimes decades and can quite often determine conclusive results.
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I’m curious about the risk of PND- do they mean the risk of PND is lower in parents that use controlled crying as a sleep method, or that those who experience it do so to a lesser degree? The article just says controlled crying reduces PND.
I didn’t know the difference with my first but some how instinctively used controlled crying one night in desperation and it seemed to work for us! I’m surprised this is so contentious. Three years ago the community nurse told us to make sure we put our newborn down awake and let him cry for a few minutes if need be do he learned to self settle. Made sense to us.
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I just went to the MCRI website and the first study done by the MCRI in 2010 about controlled crying said this:
“The findings form part of a longitudinal study by Murdoch Childrens into infant sleep, which has shown intervention during infancy significantly reduces sleep problems in children and depression among mothers during the first two years of the child’s life.”
So I guess that sleep programs like controlled crying help reduce the likelihood or severity of depression in mothers. (Which makes sense when you think about it … when both they mother and baby are chronically sleep deprived, you can imagine that would be a trigger for depression).
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Thanks Bec! That does make sense. A well rested mum is usually a happy one!
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I am sure there will be plenty of debate on this today so just wanted to get in early and say one thing. We have four kids and have (reluctantly) done controlled crying as a very last resort with 1 (number 3). He NEVER slept for more than 40 minutes at a time from the day he was born and his sleep got worse as he got older, not better. This was despite us co-sleeping, breastfeeding, rocking, patting, wrapping, unwrapping, dummies etc. When he was awake he basically cried constantly – from about 4pm each afternoon that escalated to screaming. We sought help from doctors and paeditrician’s but they couldn’t find anything wrong with him. Hearing you child cry constantly is the most distressing thing any parent can go through – we were terrified by dark fears about what all this crying/the cortisol etc was doing to his poor little brain. Our other two children were also basically just existing as all of our time was consumed by the little one and his crying was upsetting to them as well. My husband and I were both struggling to work, to actively participate in our family and/or manage and I could barely make a day without bursting into tears over nothing.
By the time we tried controlled crying with a sleep consultant (when he was 10 months) we were desperate to help him. She came – he cried for about 5 hours before he went to sleep and then slept the night through. The next day he cried for about 20 minutes and then went to sleep and we have basically not had a problem since. Now at 3 he is like a normal child. Sometimes he has a restless night, sometimes he comes into our bed, sometimes we lay with him if he won’t settle.
We think the longer his sleep issues went on, the more overtired he became and the harder it was for us to fix.
Number 4 baby is now about 8 months old and still wakes at least once a night for a breastfed. We have no intention of doing any sleep training with her as it is clear to us that she is a happy and healthy bub whereas my son was in total misery.
So before anyone judges parents who try controlled crying as totally self indulgent/ selfish / having unrealistic expectations of a full 8 hours sleep, please release that it is a lot more complicated than that for some – and it is not, in my experience, a first option or one taken lightly.
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I’ve just never understood that whole trend of having a baby sleep with you. It gets difficult when (and I’ve seen this happen a lot) the baby is 4 and 5 and still sleeping with Mum and Dad. I know someone who has all three children in with her, age 4, 2 and 6 months. The poor husband sleeps on a mattress!
I personally have issues with sleep, I kick and jerk around a lot. I would hate to be responsible for accidentally hurting my baby! Children need to learn to be independent and settling themselves is one way to start, but they need to learn that in a supported and loving environment. Having a good night’s sleep helps a mother to provide that.
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SIDS recommendations are that they baby sleep in the same room for the first 6-12 months. This doesn’t have to be in the same bed. Even if they are in the same bed, doesn’t mean they will still be there at ages 4 or 5.
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I used controlled crying on both my sons successfully – it allowed them an outlet to relieve the stresses of the day. We turned it into a positive and always gave positive assurance and reinforcement. They’re both beautiful sleepers now.
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Really? There were actually people who thought it was dangerous? I can’t imagine how it possibly could seem unsafe to anyone who actually researched the idea properly – as opposed to making assumptions based on the name alone. I sometimes have to wonder where the cotton wool wrapping will end….
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Attatchment parenting guru Bill Sears is against it in his books has argued that it can cause brain damage. Of course, what is often not mentioned is that the studies he looked at of babies being left to cry were also of babies who had a very trauamatic/neglectful backgrounds in general, and would likely have developed problems later anyways.
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Exactly! Thanks for mentioning that Some Random. Dr Sears research has been debunked. Many of the studies cited (claiming to show brain damage or psychological damage caused from controlled crying) are actually studies done on babies who have been neglected/abused by their parents … left to cry for hours during the day and night.
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I don’t know what makes me sadder- that these little souls were abused to the point of brain damage, or that a researcher did a study on disadvantaged kids to prove his point rather than doing something to help. Shudder.
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The researchers who study kids who come from traumatic/neglectful backgrounds often aren’t in a position to help to any degree. The children that have been studied tended to be those in refugee camps, orphanages that are understaffed and under resources, extreme poverty etc. They are often studying these kids at the same time as government welfare services, charities etc are helping. They don’t stand by and prevent services from intervening.
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Fair comment. I suppose in that case I wonder why he would choose this group to use for his study? Many years ago I wrote a thesis and if I remember correctly there needs to be controls and randomization, which this researcher clearly wouldn’t have. Im always discerning of the source of research when i read it for this reason.
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Probably for the same reason Dr Wakefield chose his tiny non randomized sample for his now debunked study on MMR and autism. He had a barrow to push and ignored proper research methodology to skew the results to prove his point.
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Actually the research has been very important in designing therapies for children who experience abuse (either personallly or as witnesses), neglect and other forms of trauma eg. spending prolonged time in a refugee camp. It has also helped highlight the importance of play esp, role playing to help reestablish brain pathways important in problem solving. As far as I understand the research wasn’t done with some hidden agenda to be used against the average loving family who use controlled crying but was rather highjacked. Also, while we may like to think that there are only a tiny number of children who experience trauma, sadly there are not, and we need these children helped before they end up having children of there own. It’s nothing to do with proving a point or skewing results, it’s about helping those particular groups of kids. No barrow, Fabyian.
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Fair enough that all makes sense, good comment. The only question is why use a group like that in the first place? Wouldn’t this compromise the randomization of the trial?
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Yep Kersten there are definitely people who think it is dangerous, some of our close friends (who are into attachment parenting) have said to us they consider it to be “child abuse”. Now, that is only their opinion, and one of the things I am more than happy to respect is a difference of opinion. They have never tried to force their thoughts or parenting methods on me and my dh. My daughter was also a poor sleeper during the day (i thought I was going INSANE!), and it took working through some controlled comforting in consultation with my GP to get her to settle into a better daytime sleep routine. After a couple of weeks her sleep has improved out of sight and we have never looked back. Its not only her day sleeps that have gotten better, but also her night sleeps, and feed routines have also improved. I never thought I was going to have to use cc but in the end it was the only thing that worked for us.
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I have no problem at all with AP, except when someone uses it to say controlled crying, formula feeding, separate sleeping or whatever is “child abuse”. What is abusive is people that judge the parenting techniques of other parents and use words like “child abuse” directed at well intentioned parents doing what they think is best for their child. Not directing this at your friends specifically, I just believe it is so counter productive and destructive to use that sort of emotive and provocative language.
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I coudn’t agree more!
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Oh god, I agree. If you can’t articulate the benefits of the type of childrearing you are undertaking without denigrating the choices of others, please shut up. You are not doing your cause any favours.
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Didn’t realise some were still arguing it wasn’t safe. Too late for my kids!
My thoughts: the safest thing for a baby is to be cared for by someone who has had some sleep the night before.
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We did the “gift of sleep” routine. I was surprised: it really did take 3 days to work. Mind you it is not fool-proof. My baby still has one unsettled night a week, but is generally sleeping from 6pm to 5am.
It is hard – the crying breaks your heart and you get agitated because a crying baby means you need to do something. But, if there are no underlying problems, it should only take a few days for the new routine to work with your baby.
It is good that this research came out. It does make me feel a better – although the extra sleep is also helping!
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Amanda we too have done the GoS and had success in three days. We started just after she turned one and she’s now 16mo. The only times she hasn’t slept through is if she’s unwell or recently when she had 3 teeth coming through at once. Once she’s better or the teeth are through, she’s back to sleeping through even without us having to restart the program. We are a much happier and calmer family because we all get to sleep.
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