If you want to make God laugh, tell him your plans. If you want to make a midwife laugh, tell her your birth plan. I’ve always mocked birth plans, even before having a baby myself and most certainly afterwards. “They’re ridiculous!” I railed. “Waste of paper!” I chortled. “You’re just setting yourself up for disappointment!” I insisted. So imagine my surprise when I recently discovered that I did, in fact, have plans for each of my babies without even knowing it. Which was fine, until one birth didn’t go according to my non-plan and all hell broke loose.
The realisation I was a hypocrite – and worse - began a few weeks ago when I heard an ABC radio report on post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). According to a research team from Griffith University, 6% of Australian women go on to develop PTSD after giving birth and it’s often undiagnosed or misdiagnosed as post-natal depression. The two groups of women with the highest risk of developing PTSD were those who thought their birth would be fantastic and those who thought it would be horrific.The birth itself doesn’t have to have been medically dangerous or even complicated, what matters is the mother’s experience – something often framed by her expectations.Ka-ching, I heard softly.
I’d always thought birth plans were about candles, Norah Jones CDs and breathing and were sprinkled liberally with words like ‘natural’ and ‘active’. I thought they were about trying to control the uncontrollable, predict the unpredictable, shunning ‘intervention’ and using alternative methods of pain relief. Which is why it never occurred to me that I had a plan because I wasn’t interested in any of that. My plan for each of my 3 births consisted of one word: epidural. Surely that’s not detailed enough to be a plan?
It turns out a birth plan can simply mean your expectation of something -written or otherwise. And expectations, even if they’re unspoken, can be a very bad thing to take into a birth.
While women drive the birth plan bus, men are big fans, generally. This is because it sounds a lot like a set of instructions and how handy would that be when you find yourself in a room with a bunch of people clustered around your naked partner who seems to want something from you but who has replaced her speech with animal noises.
The idea of a birth plan also offers some written recourse in case your partner unexpectedly changes tack. “I know I said no (pant) drugs (grunt) but I neeeeeeed (gasp, pant, grooooaan) something NOW or I’m (moooooo) NOT DOING THIS!”
So what do you do now? Take her at her word and request an epidural or refer to the birth plan which specifically states If I ask for drugs, just help me focus on my breathing instead ?
And also? There was no mention in the plan of physical violence and what to do when your testicles are threatened. Help? Anyone?
My first birth went pretty much as expected: pain, epidural, birth. I’d been open to the possibility of a caesarean but it wasn’t necessary. I congratulated myself for not having a plan because I’d seen the angst suffered by women whose plans had ended up being derailed by complications or an unexpected need for pain relief.
My non-plan for my second birth was the same as the first: pain – probably excrutiating – and then the anaesthetist would give me an epidural and I would be so grateful I’d ask him to marry me and then the baby would be born*. The end. Good non-plan.
I know you’ll be shocked to hear it didn’t go that way. I certainly was. When no anaesthetist was available, I had to give birth without pain relief, something I’d never expected. Good luck to those who chose to but I was never among you. I like epidurals. Dammit, I bloody love them.
So let’s say I was a wee bit miffed, if by miffed you mean gob-smacked, indignant, furious, devastated and shattered -in that order.
Afterwards, when I was ranting to a friend about having to white-knuckle it with no drugs and she said “Do you at least feel a little bit smug?”, I responded instantly: “No, not smug, just bitter.”
In the days and weeks that followed, I had many PTSD symptoms, even though they were mild. Repeated flashbacks to the birth, insomnia and a strange emotional disconnect from the world and my baby. I clearly remember one afternoon when she was a few weeks old, sitting and looking into her face and feeling the first warm pangs of intense emotion. I called my husband and said “I’m totally in love with this baby” because suddenly, I was. It felt like waking up. Or thawing out.
I’m not going to end this column with any words of advice to future mothers because they get far too much of that as it is. I’ll just say this: the best laid plans……..
* Given that women in labour frequently propose to their anaesthetist, might be good career choice for single blokes. Wait.
Did you have a birth plan? Did you stick to it? Do you think you may have suffered (or are suffering) from PTSD?







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GkeewJ I value the blog. Really Great.
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My birth plan went exactly right, even though I had a hospital birth my midwife LOVED my NATURAL, drug-free (NO syntocin for me or injections for baby after birth) active birth plan. She said she’d never seen anything like it but TOTALLY AGREED that birth in our society is totally over-medicalised and that she didn’t mind delaying cord-clamping, not offering me drugs under any circumstance (other than the event of emergency c-section, which I planned for, I planned for most everything that could have gone wrong and stated my preferences for treatment in each event) This made my midwife’s job easier, according to her, she knew that I would be put under in case of c-section, and that bub’s dad would be present for every moment of the birth.
She knew to tell the Doctor where to go when he TOLD her to give me a shot of pethedine, she knew I knew what I was doing to some extent although it was my first baby.
My 16.5 hour drug-free birth was incredible- incredibly painful and incredibly wonderful, it produced (I produced =)) my daughter, and delivered her safely in to the world without the need for any assistance. Its a very empowering experience, probably the most empowering one could ever have. How you could be jaded about giving birth naturally is so far beyond me its not funny.
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hU8Czo Wow, great post.Really thank you! Great.
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My plan was to just go with the flow & hope to hell I ended up with a healthy bubs.
With my first I refused to watch the video & didn’t really want to know what to expect. The midwife I had with my first bub kept pushing me to write a birth plan & I kept refusing. I figured it was too late to change my mind & one way or another the baby was coming out. I had faith that my midwife would lead me the right way & with all 3 kids they have.
Turns out I have very quick births so if I did have a plan I wouldn’t of been able to do any of it.
My only disappointment was my midwife realised I have a high pain tolerance & was just using the gas to trip away most of my labour so she turned it down.
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5 day labour. No drugs. Baby was posterior so all the pain was in my back. Hind waters broke so antibiotics injected every 6 hours. Midwife manually broke my waters. Induced by injection as I wasn’t progressing. Baby boy got stuck just before crowning. Emergency caesarean. Diagnosed with PND.
Try planning for that
Would I go for a second- absolutely!
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My first was still born, so my great expectation was that I’d hear my babies first noises. It was really important to me, but I probably wasn’t all that conscious of it and certainly hadn’t written anything down. I’d expected to have the baby ‘anytime’ and was already a bit shocked to make it to 37 weeks. It never occurred to me that I mightn’t be conscious when my baby was born and that the whole experience would be worse that giving birth to a dead baby.
So, I ended up with PTSD. I knew I wasn’t depressed (been there done that, got the spoon to prove it so to speak), but I was certain that some thin was wrong. People would ask if I liked being a Mum and I could only muster a ‘yeah’.
Thankfully help is available! Before I got help I was having flashbacks whenever I hung the washing out (2 loads a day – that’s a lot of flashbacks), now I can imagine the moment of my daughters birth without choking up over the grief that I wasn’t “there” for it.
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Ana- what sort of help did you get for your PTSD??
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My birth plans were pretty simple too.
Birth No 1 = Just wing it.
Birth No 2 = Not another baby who had no idea what to do! Out come the forceps again. Ouch!
Birth No 3 = Just give me a minute to think about this and uh oh, too late, it’s done. It’s true what they say about giving birth on all fours … so damn easy.
I reckon by birth no 4, I would have known enough to make a real birth plan but there never was a no 4.
Of all the reading I did before giving birth about making birth plans, the thing that stuck in my mind was this sentence… not a direct quote … It’s as though a giant hand has picked up your body and is shaking the life out of it, it is as though your body has been taken over by a tidal wave, a tsunami, an earthquake until you know only one word – push. You are divorced from the rest of the world and alone with these fierce sensations that control your every movement and thought. Hmmm, make a birth plan based on that information? Nah.
Love your writing Mia
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LOL. Great article
First of all I am pretty sure I hadn’t heard of birth plans when I had my kids. This was probably because I live in a pretty old fashioned country (Eastern Europe). My kids are 7 and 5. With the first one I was just about getting the baby out safely. I was open to epidural IF necessary but not counting on it, I was also insistent that a c-section be done ONLY if the baby was in danger. I had the baby vaginally, with epidural which I asked for because I was in pain. All went well. Second baby – ha! I wanted to “try without an epidural”. That was my only plan. Did it work out? Hell yeah. My baby was born at home in 45 mins. There was no time for anything. I had no idea what was going on it was so fast. So yeah, the plan of trying to birth w/o an epidural worked. Did I have PTSD? Yes, but later on and related to my son’s sudden illness at 5 wks old. Looking back on the homebirth it was a good experience, but I certainly would not have done it consciously. The ambulance came AFTER he was born because we called too late.
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Snap! Mia, that’s exactly what happened to me with my two births. Even better, not only was there no epidural for number two, but we missed receiving the brand new baby bonus by mere hours – that hurt almost as much! I was so traumatised I couldn’t sleep for days.
I wasn’t brave enough to go back for number three!!
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My birth plan was simple, effective and guarantees no PTSD. “Get. It. Out.”
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That was my birth plan too, and I ended up WITH PTSD, there are no guarantees ;o)
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For my first birth plan I didn’t want an epidural…..then of course was begging for one after it was too late…..
During my second labour my plan was basically just beg for a c-section until they gave in, (they didn’t) I even tried bribing my midwife and doctor with the title to our block of land in exchange for one, lucky they didn’t take me up on the offer!!!
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Good on you if you have a birth plan. I had a surprise 5.1kg (yes kg not pds) baby. Try “birth planning” your way out of THAT one ha ha. Cue epidural and c-section. (C-sections are underrated for 5kg babies BTW he he!!)
The worst experience for me was being unable to breastfeed. Just call me saharaboobs. Having ZERO information at any pre-birth classes communicated about the possibility of this (or low supply, or anything other than a wonderful bonding session via the boob) left me traumatised in my first few weeks trying to establish how the bottle thing worked, feeling scared, alone and abandoned by the “breast is best” system that simply puts women with any breastfeeding problems into the “too hard” basket. IMO this is frankly a crime and sets women up to fail at a time when they are most vulnerable.
Not everyone can afford to pay hundreds of dollars to specialist lactation consultants (if you are lucky enough to find one that acknowledges sometimes you need to use a bottle).
Angry? You bet.
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My birth plan was simple. Try without drugs but be open to anything that happens. It worked perfectly cause I managed without drugs. I was open to the possibility of drugs or intervention if I needed them but wasn’t placing all my hopes on them. You need to stay open and flexible because the only sure thing about giving birth is that it is always unexpected and different to what we imagine!
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Exactly my approach, Trina. Worked for me, healthy baby and healthy mother was my only plan!
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I had a birth plan. I never wrote it down, but I told everyone I came into contact with especially all the health care professionals so EVERYONE knew. It was short and sweet. My husband is to be with me at all times and if anyone comes anywhere near me with a pair of Metzenbaum scissors, my husband has been instructed to tackle you to the ground and beat you to a bloody pulp. That’s all. No one and I mean NO ONE is ever EVER giving me an episiotomy. That’s it. Everything else was on the table. With my first, I had an 8 hour labour with an epidural which ended in vac extraction. With my second it all went so fast, the only person that made it to the birth was my husband and the midwife on duty at the time (who was still trying to fill in the admission paperwork while while she’s drenched my my amniotic fluid after my water’s Exploded all over her and I’m saying “I pushing now!”). My OB showed up to deliver the placenta and stitch a little tear. If I had left home 10 mins later, I would have been one of those “having a baby in the Macca’s car park” type stories.
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LOL, see my story above. Lucky I had my 2nd baby in my bed, and not at Macca’s
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Both times my plan has been to go as far as I could without drugs, as long as the labour kept progressing well and we were both safe.
My labours move really quickly though and I have to hot-tail-it to hospital and also call ahead so the OB doesn’t miss it.
The pain, I imagine is akin to being murdered but there’s no chance in hell I’ll ever have time for drugs so the ‘plan’, I guess works.
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interesting about PTSD,think PND is very much known about these days and people are on the alert for it (a little too much! My mother in law is already saying her daughter is depressed with a 2 week old. I said I’m pretty sure she’s just EXHAUSTED!). I certainly had the flashbacks for ages although I did find breastfeeding immensely challenging and traumatic and although I did it succcessfully in the end, I’d say that was a harder slog than any labour.
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YES AGREE takes a while to bond – i had Post natal depression and when it was lifting i suddendly could smell my baby she no longer smelt like a sweaty dog – it was summer – i started to sleep with her clothes next to me she smelt so good when we finally bonded.
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Mia, I had the same non-plan as you. The first went smoothly and the second, just like you, involved the lack of anaesthetist. Therefore, no epidural and a total drug-free, horrifically painful and traumatising birth.
When I go back for number 3, I’ll get an epi BEFORE I’m induced!
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I haven’t read all the comments so apologies if this has been covered-
I don’t think birth ‘plans’ are a great idea because you can’t really plan birth. However i think it is important to have a list of birth ‘preferences’, things like wanting or not wanting pain relief, partner to cut the cord, yes/no routine vaginal examinations, yes/no to Hep B/Vit K etc. I think it is good to have so when you are in that much pain and not making a whole lot of sense there is something written down for your carer to refer to, also for shift changes etc if you are in a hospital. Listing preferences can go a long way to having a better birth. So can having realistic expectations, if you want a ‘natural’ birth, try and avoid induction, do exercises to encourage your baby into a good position for birthing, have good support (a doula or independent midwife), and read read read! I think a lot of women want a natural birth but do not prepare well for it and end up with the epidural which often leads to a c/s or forceps leaving many women very traumatised.
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I like your thinking. I wonder if hospitals could do a ‘checklist’ plan (instead of you imagining and improvising your own). Based on our experience, and conversations with other people there should be a category about what to do when things go badly not to plan. Many women who have an unplanned c-section are the last person to see their brand new baby.
In my case, I was wheeled into NICU to see my SIL telling me how beautiful my baby was… What the…!!!! My Husband had seen her (well, OK, I’ll let him be with his daughter lol), my parents, my SIL and my in-laws. I felt quite left out, the same feeling that you get when you turn up to a party a few hours late – still good fun, but not the same.
Parents should be encouraged to think about those sorts of possibilities so that they don’t feel as disempowered and disappointed in these sorts of situations.
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My Birth Plan was pretty thorough I thought. First baby, no drugs, no examinations, allowed to move freely, only my partner and one midwife looking at my bits please”…… Then when I went into labour and found out that baby was facing wrong way….19 hours, an epidural, episiotomy and forceps later I had my gorgeous daughter
I remember talking to my partner the next day and we were both in shock. Its a hugely traumatic experience and when its your first you just don’t believe it will be THAT painful! Or why would women do it more than once. Then you look at your baby and you understand why. lol
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I’m due to give birth in two weeks and my birth plan consists of a few bullet points on a scrap of paper. I’ve been doing fabulous pre-natal yoga classes and have been stretching all the right bits and pieces in preparation, I meditate regularly, have been to birthing classes and my partner and I have done an accupressure course focussing on labour. I’m going in aware of what can happen but am keeping an open mind. I’d love to have a natural birth, but then again I’ve never felt the pain of labour. I’ll do everything I can to work with my body and keep things moving along but am certainly not going to bust myself and put myself or my baby in trauma. Having said all that I’m a complete labour virgin and writing this I feel like I’m commenting on chocolate icecream without ever tasting it! Wish me luck!
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Flow with the soul that you are about to nuture for the rest of your life, you know your little cherub allready!….For me accupressure was amazing, Administed by a wonderful friend throughout my last labour (3rd child) it let me breathe away to her birth., then jump into a hot bath and well , … make those animalisic noises that are inevitable
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I’ve been talking to my doula and my sister (a midwife) about hypnobirthing, my sis told me both hypnobirths she’s done have had like Enya style new age cds with affirmation and visualisation prompts. She thought the idea of me in labour with friggen Enya going was hilarious! I wondered if I could change Enya for the Foo Fighters…
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AN EXPECTATION IS NOT A THOROUGH PLAN . . .
You can go in hoping for, even expecting, the birth that you want, but a thorough PLAN prepares you to have the best birth that you can have on the day. It is possible to prepare for births to be unpredictable by including all contingencies, not just hopeful expectations. That’s what makes a REAL plan! For example, we wanted to had a natural birth. However we were aware that we may end up having a caesarian. Having considered this as a possibility we also knew that we were empowered to make choices inside that outcome. For instance: Having the father always go with the baby. No suctioning until the mother has seen the baby. Don’t expose the baby to bright light and Mum’s is the first voice the baby hears. The experience that you don’t necessarily want doesn’t have to be a traumatic experience if you’ve has PLANNED for all eventualities.
Our birth plan was an 11 page document. Luckily we had 9 months to prepare *wink*.
Instead of taking from Mia’s article “Don’t bother with a birth plan”, I urge readers to ” Have a COMPLETE birth plan”.
Be prepared and know the possibilities so you can feel empowered, rather that traumatised, by making informed choices on the day.
I was one of 4 birth attendants at my sons birth. By far the Best Day of my life!
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11 pages ??? Thats complete over kill.
Be informed, have a great Doctor/Midwife/Doula, But have an open mind and try to enjoy the experience as much as possible. 11 Pages is just setting yourself up for disapointment.
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I think you missed the point of my reply.
Our plan wasn’t 11 pages of my desired outcome, it contained all our preferences in case our desired outcome wasn’t achievable. And it didn’t read like Tolstoy, more like a mind map of possibilities.
Hence it was a BIRTH PLAN, not a BIRTH EXPECTATION. This is where Mia’s confusion lay.
If disappointment is the result of making an uninformed decision, how could I be disappointed if I had considered how I would react under any circumstances. . . . A PLAN.
i.e. Syntocin can block the flow of endorphins hence making labour seem more painful. An important thing to consider when offered induction. Which raises the question, when is induction necessary and what are our options . . . . and so forth . . .
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Be prepared for all eventualities you say…. What about lying in a theatre after being in labour for 47 hours to hear the midwife say.. I can’t find the heartbeat and the obstetrician to reply put her under NOW!. Yes my husband stayed with the baby (as planned in our thorough birth plan). No amount of planning however could have stopped my feelings of alienation, surrelism or complete lack of bonding when I woke up and held my completly foreign baby. PTSD for sure. I feel guilty to this day about the complete lack of bonding I had with my first child. I was so traumatised I was in complete hysterics for three months when my obstetrican told me I had to have another C section during my second pregnancy. Please don’t get me wrong I am ever so grateful that my child and I were ok. It could have been much much worse but really there are some eventualities you do not want to have to prepare for.
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This was my experience too! Petrifying! And worth it. The thing is that you simply can’t prepare for EVERY eventuality. I think that a ‘wish list’ is better that an 11 page plan lol There WILL be something that you haven’t thought of!
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I was planning on having a “natural” vaginal birth until I found out my daughter was in the breech position and after weighing up options I decided to go with a c-section. I thought a c-section would be straight forward. Then directly after the c-section I was sooooooooooooooooooo ill. I could not stop vomiting for hours and hours. I couldn’t get out of bed or hold my daughter because I couldn’t even sit up. After that I either had PTSD or PND. I couldn’t stop thinking about those first few hours I lost with my daughter and thought it would forever effect our relationship. Eventually I got over it when I realised I needed to focus on the now rather than the past but it did take me a couple of weeks!
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I wrote a birth “wish list”, fully prepared that it may not go according to plan. Personally, I think it’s a little silly to make firm “plans” i.e. “no drugs, no matter how much I beg for them”, especially if you’ve never given birth before!
My “wish list” consisted of a water birth, no drugs, lots of walking etc. I definitely was one of the lucky ones as I achieved all three…however accidentally as my son came so quickly I’d only done 2 laps around the ward before hopping in the bath for some natural pain relief and he made his appearance not long after.
Definitely making another “wish list” when I have number 2 and hope to keep it all in perspective again and remember that at the end of the day “healthy Mum, healthy bub” is the only outcome that matters.
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Healthy mum and bub, mentally, physically and spiritually that is. Sometimes several of these are overlooked!
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My birth plan – Have a baby. That was all I wrote down.
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The most best and simplest birth plan ever – mine too…
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Mine too!
“Have baby, don’t die”
Two from two ain’t bad…
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I didn’t have a birth plan, but obviously had expectations which did not help me at all.
I’d read the books, I’d gone to the classes and heard all the ‘stay upright, stay active’ etc etc. I’d packed the cds and the nice smelling shower gel. What I wasn’t prepared for was a posterior baby which resulted in every contraction feeling like a knife in my lower back where I couldn’t walk or move or stand in a shower. I spent 14 hours hunched over the side of a bed delirious while hubby rubbed my back and my knees collapsed under me every contraction. We had no support or assistance. Eventually got an epidural which didn’t work properly and was turned off. Bubs got distressed and I needed an emergency c-section which ended up having to be done under a general. No first cuddles with the gooey baby I had carried for 40 weeks and 5 days. No hearing her first cries. No photos of her until she was washed and wrapped and passed to hubby in the hallway (he wasn’t allowed in due to the GA).
By the time I met my daughter I was still so out of it I can’t even remember the moment – just remember the midwives with their hands all over my boobs trying to express colostrum. No debrief. Just a lot of grief and heartache for an unexpected birth that I wasn’t prepared for. Yes, my daughter was born healthy, I know that and I appreciate that, and am eternally grateful – but there is so much pain, even 2 1/2 years later. No one prepared us for the possibility of a c-section under a general – I’d never heard anyone going through that and missing the birth. I suffered terrible PND and looking back probably PTSD. I’m considering getting her birth records from the hospital so I can try and put some pieces together.
We aren’t having another child. The risks of the hyperemesis I suffered throughout the pregnancy and the PND returning are just too high. So I will never have the chance to try and experience a nicer birth.
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i had a similar experience to you nearly 2 years ago, with the exception of the general, and suffered post natal depression and post traumatic stress. i obtained my hospital records because on reflection, much of the birth was ‘lost’ to me. i found that looking back on the official records of what happened was very helpful – a friend who is a midwife went through them with me to help explain the jargon. however, it also made me angry all over again when i could clearly see the stages at which matters were taken out of my hands and the cascade of intervention began. i would strongly encourage you to get your records to piece together what happened but would just caution you to be prepared for the emotions that you may experience by doing this. on the plus side, when i pieced together everything that happened it made me realise that it wasn’t my ‘fault’. i found a terrific psychologist in melbourne who specialised in post natal depression as well as trauma – let me know if you want her details, she was extremely good and helped me through a very dark time. i am only just thinking about another baby – i’m also very worried about the depression returning but feel like if it did, i am better-equipped to handle it. or so i hope. sincere best wishes to you – i understand your pain and i hope it eases for you.
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With my first I didn’t have a written plan but I knew I didn’t want drugs but was willing to if I needed them. I knew for sure I wouldn’t budge on not having an epidural though. I wanted to be active and give birth in a position that gravity would help… when it all happened I couldn’t have drugs because my entire labour was 2 hours. The baby was in distress, i ended up on my back, legs in stirrups and vacuum extraction… certainly not pleasant or romantic in any way.
Second time around, I knew things could go badly, so I thought I would be happy if I could be active and use gravity. I ended up being induced at 39 weeks due to diabetes (on insulin) in an awful hosipital 100kms away from all my support (except my husband). Baby came in 1 hour, on my back, machines strapped to me. It was the most awful experience. 6 weeks has passed and I can’t even think about it without tears welling up. It was a very traumatic experience and how I feel now is very surprising to me, but I don’t know how to get over it.
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I figure we shouldn’t give a damn how the baby gets here as long as both mum and bub are okay afterwards. You make about a million decisions for your child during their life; this one is just the beginning.
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Wow! I’m a midwife…and alarmed to see so many women who felt rotten after their births, that the hospital did not take care of them appropriately, etc. Makes me really sad to be honest.
On topic, I agree with you Mia, even if you don’t have a formal birth plan, in your mind you have expectations and beliefs that are “your plan.”
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Mia, I usually love your work but really have to disagree with you here! I think that not having a birth plan is disempowering, and leaving all in the hands of the medics is definitely not best for mum.
I did not have a birth plan with my first – the hospital knows what it’s doing, right?! Wrong. Got induced unnecessarily, epidural (which made me feel like a piece of meat, very traumatic), vacuum suction because of course by that time the baby was in distress. All awful, and I never really bonded properly with my baby, who was whisked out of the room for the first few hours of her life (stuck in the corridor with a dummy) so that I could sleep. Well, I had no choice, I had had an epidural, drugged out, and in shock. Just awful.
I was convinced that that would not happen to me again. Enter Active Birth and a birth plan that my midwife knew I was serious about. Fantastic birth, best experience of my life (orgasmic even!), immediate bonding with baby, ready to do it all again!!
I recommend getting educated and making sure your birth plan is implemented
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Hey Unichick,
I just don’t think it CAN always go according to plan. By all means have an idea of what you want and I agree with you totally about informing yourself but that needs to include accepting the possibility that following your plan might not be possible……..
And I don’t think medical help or drugs has anything to do with bonding with your baby. Not for everyone. For me, I found it much easier to bond with my babies when I’d had an epidural and wasn’t out of my mind with pain.
I found that particular experience (when pain medication wasn’t available) to be much more traumatic because to cope with the pain, my mind and body totally disconnected.
That doesn’t happen to everyone but it happened to me….
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I agree that planning can’t control everything; there is a little bit of luck involved. But planning, and being your own advocate, can certainly help.
Obviously not everyone has bonding difficulties, but traumatic births can cause bonding difficulties.
We can only speak out of our personal experiences. I am a strong advocate of active birth because my first birth was just so awful. I had difficulty bonding, and in my experience, the pain of labour is nothing compared to the feeling of being a slab of meat on a bed that doctors are ‘operating’ on. I felt disempowered, vulnerable and violated.
With my second birth, I remember feeling so thankful to my baby for just slipping out; it was almost like we had done it together, just lovely.
The only reason I have commented on your post is because I do think that the comment ‘birth plans pfff’ which is repeated ad nauseum by experienced mothers, can lead to the feeling that planning an active birth (or whatever kind of birth you want) is a waste of time. First-time mothers need to know that the hospital system is not on their side. I wish someone had told me!
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I agree with the hospital not being on your side. I have never felt so ignored in my life.
Next year when my second is due I will be empowered because of my first experience.
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i so agree! mothers need to be prepared, informed and ready to be their own advocates! not to plan everything to a ridiculous degree… but to empower themselves with INFORMATION and a positive ATTITUDE. these things can truly change birth outcomes (not guarrented of course, but a much better chance!). I dont think birth prep can ever be a waste of time if it gets you into a good frame of mind and helps you to not just be a ‘victim’ almost, where procedures and decisions are just down around and on you, without your (rather important!!) feelings taken into account. your birth, your body, your baby, your choice. I am not saying ignore the medical staff but none of them (esp those with holidays and golf games booked) are invested in the LONG TERM outcomes for you and your baby like you are!
(sorry for caps, not shouting, just emphasising! )
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yep, i’m agreeing with this too.
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I have had two boys without any drugs at all. One 9 pounds, the other 10. Both times I disconnected from my body to give birth. Both times I felt in complete shock and said that I could never have any more children, the experience is just too traumatic. If I were to do it again (oh god forbid!) I would have an epidural, it’s the only way I could get through my third pregnancy without anxiety and tears. HOW it all happens isn’t the big deal, it’s what you get at the end….hopefully a healthy baby and a healthy mother. I will be healthier mentally next time if I use an epidural. This is my experience. I have friends who have that the exact opposite experience. Everyone to their own.
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Do you mean literally orgasmic? I’ve heard that can happen…
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With my first baby, I was so wide eyed and wanting it all to be perfect that when my midwife suggested an epidural after 26 hours of labour, I willingly went along thinking she’s done this a million times before, this is my first time, I’ll stick with what she thinks is best to deliver my baby safely. But in retrospect, I honestly think I was more emotionally scarred from the epidural itself than the actual birth.
It took seven attempts (all whilst writhing with 2 minute contractions) to insert this “Giant Needle” according to my lovable needle-phobic partner, into my spine, each of which I felt sliding into my back. I kept explaining that I had pain and could feel them inserting it and the aneasthetist was adamant that that was impossible as she had administered a local anasthetic. I ended up having gas to calm me down enough and keep me still while she inserted the needle. The next day, while positively over the moon and insanely happy with my new baby, my whole back was black and blue with seven angry black bruises from where this woman had tried again and again to give me the stupid epidural. I know it is a life saver for some women and it is fantastic that that pain option is now available, but for me it wasn’t worth the trauma in that moment. I had my second birth with only pethidine, gas and with my partner and midwife assisting and actually feeling my body giving birth to my little girl rather than the disconnected, hooked up to a machine, clinical situation
and a room full of strangers with my first born was an amazing experience that I will always cherish. Ultimately I had 2 amazing births that delivered 2 gorgeous babies safely but I know how I would like my next delivery to go.
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My plan for my third child was, ‘please use the toilet paper I have provided, and if you’re going to wipe my butt, warn me first!’ I always planned not to have an epidural because the idea terrifies me, and I managed to have that. My plan for my third was to have another water birth, and I wasn’t allowed due to complications.
I agree, women do have to be warned about the fact that birth doesn’t always go the way you want it to, and you have to be prepared to roll with it when that happens. The problem is, if you have a first time mum with a really strict plan, I’ve often found you can warn them as nicely as possible, and they just don’t want to hear it, then end up terribly shocked anyway
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My birth plan was the complete opposite of yours, Mia. No epidural. And that worked for me. I delivered with no pain relief at all.
I worked as a midwife for 20 years and while I think there is definitely a place for epidurals for women in labour, I just didn’t want anyone messing around with my back.
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I loved this story on a birthplan. Like you Mia, I didn’t really have a birthplan for either of my births apart from, if it hurts too much, get an epidural. As it turns out I was induced for both labours, induction is like going from period paid to transitional pain in minutes. I tried to “work through” the pain for a while the first time around, but didn’t do so well. With my second child I asked for an epidural straight up with the induction. My “charming” obstetrician only agreed because it would be easier to find an available anaesthetist early in the morning, but said why don’t you “see how you go” before turning it on. I replied angrily that I’d tried that the first time, and wasn’t prepared to go down that road with the second. Thankfully my angel of a midwife came to the rescue. As soon as the doctors left the room, she turned up the epidural, turned up the syntocin and said “Let’s get this show on the road!”. Tell me, what the hell would an obstetrician know about the level of pain of childbirth if he is a male? Sure, he’s seen it and heard it, but he has NEVER felt it. I have little respect for their attitude.
I have a girlfriend who had a birthplan. She was shocked that I firmly believed in epidurals. I told her that we used anaesthetics to have our gallbladders removed, when once pain relief in surgery consisted of brandy and biting down on a stick! Why not use modern medicine to make childbirth a more pleasant and safer experience? She practiced her breathing, trained herself on a Tens machine and went into it with pride and a sense of virtue. A few years later, she finally admitted to me how scared she was whilst pregnant with her second….of the birth….of how traumatic the first birth was for her, and how fearful she was of the second. It was so sad to hear the fear in her.
Another person, my cousin, had her birthplan ruined by high blood pressure and a post partum haemmorhage and was severely traumatised as well.
Plan schman!!! As soon as the pious get off their high horse and remind women of the unpredictability of childbirth, and of the dangers involved (women used to die in droves during childbirth and those around them treated THAT with respect), then maybe some sense will begin to prevail again.
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Inductions are not natural births, no wonder you needed an epidural!
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Inductions are not natural births???
Natural birth referrs to a non caesar birth. Being induced is still natural!
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Oh my god – nearly 4 years of thinking I had undiagnosed PND after my second baby that did NOT go to my non-plan, the light bulb has gone on! This is exactly how I felt when the whole thing went pear shaped and I ended up with a caesar after a textbook first baby. I still struggle with the guilt of not having that “rush” of love for my second baby that I did for my first and third. Luckily the rush came, it was just a bit late (and is now regularly challenged by the most single minded 3 year old I have ever seen!!)
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While it’s great the number of women with positive birth stories who felt really empowered by the birth of their child whichever way it was I find it really sad the number of women who have such negative connotations with their birth and who feel that certain people (i.e. the doctor who didn’t give them an epidural or the midwife who didn’t listen) are to blame for this. I believe we live in a society where when something unexpected or ‘bad’ happens people feel the need to blame others, that because it happened it must be someones fault. Lets face it sometimes the anesthetist is not available because they are in a c/s or it really is too late and it would be detrimental to the mother and the baby should an epidural be put in. We should also remember that doctors and midwives are also falliable and mistakes can happen (incidentally 3rd and 4th degree tears are usually the result of anatomy and baby’s position rather than poor technique).
Childbirth will be painful, it will be hard whether the labour is quick or long, it will not be glamorous and there is always a risk to both mother and baby (by the way I believe c/s births should be included in this whether elective or emergency as most women who have had one would attest). Even with an early epidural there is always a chance it won’t work or the block will be patchy or it will wear of for the birth. I think this a myth women have about childbirth; that if they ask for the drugs the pain will disappear. Chances are it won’t all go away. I think if women are educated by themselves, and those caring for them about the reality of childbirth there would be far fewer cases of PTSD and PND. I don’t think birth has become more traumatic over the last five to ten years rather womens perceptions and attitudes towards negative births has shifted.
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but when a woman is giving birth usually she is quite vulnerable and some doctors and midwives DO have their own agendas in opposition to the mothers. When you are in pain and vulnerable it is hard and exhausting to fight for what you want. It is easy for birthing mothers to be “bullied” into doing things against their wishes. Sometimes it IS the blame of the hospital system why things don’t go to plan, if only because a lot of healthcare professionals simply don’t RESPECT the wishes of the patient.
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What’s the midwives and doctors agenda?
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Get them in, get them out.
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This is exactly what I have found from my research for my Honours project. In fact I am writing this chapter now. The women I interviewed did feel vulnerable and like they couldn’t make their wishes known. For some it was because they believed that the doctors knew what was best and therefore did not question certain things. In some cases, upon reflection this led to a traumatic experience.
I also found that first-time mothers were treated with more dis-respect by both doctors and midwives. I suppose this is because the attitude IS that the labouring woman is NOT the expert, especially if she has not been through this experience before. One woman I spoke to was told she was not in labour and given a sleeping tablet. Turned out she was in labour all right and she ended up with a horrible experience. Another woman had her birth plan ripped up by the obstetrician right in front of her. Another was told by a midwife to “just calm down!”.
Women in labour ARE vulnerable, and we do need to treat them with respect. If things aren’t going to plan, then we need to INFORM them of what is next, rather than just going ahead and doing it. Not every woman is the same. We should treat them as individuals, not just as another ‘patient’.
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With my first, the midwife told me to lay down for 20 minutes to have the ctg strapped to me and wouldn’t believe that I was in too much pain to lay on my back… needless to say 20 10 minutes later I was in the birthing suite having my baby. She then told me I had an attitude problem because I didn’t like the gas. All the other staff were wonderful though and I the midwife is a nice lady but at the time she just thought I didn’t know what I was doing and treated me like a job and not a person. I felt very vulnerable and out of control.
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Hi Mirabelle,
Having heard some of the attitudes my sister (midwife) has copped from people, I also think that there is a culture of entitlement that our parents would never have dreamed of expecting when they were having us in the 70s. I don’t think that is necessarily a bad thing, but people do seem to expect to get what they want when they ask for it now, rather than just copping it on the chin if they are told they can’t have it for whatever reason.
I agree with you about the fallibility of people as well – not everyone can be on the ball and totally tuned in to what is going on 100% of the time! Yet people seem to expect that this is what the case will be. It would be awesome for that to happen, but in reality it won’t always be the way things go down!
I had this argument about nurses with my Uncle’s idiot wife when my Pop died – she was carrying on about how something had been forgotten (nothing life threatening that contributed to his death at all) and I said “Well, hospital wards are busy, high-pressure places, are you trying to tell me that you’ve never forgotten something at work?” Of course she hadn’t.
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Thanks for seeing my point. I agree that sometimes mistakes that shouldn’t be made are made and people aren’t treated with respect but mostly it’s just a change of attitude from patients to adverse or not what they were expecting outcomes. Mortality and morbidity in childbirth in Australia is one of the lowest in the world and our outcomes are so much better in every area from even 10 years ago and yet patient satisfaction is lower. This suggests to me its people’s attitude and not the care that has changed.
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That is such a good point. I think that about doctors and nurses all the time. of course they make mistakes. All of us make mistakes at work. It’s just that these people work in a field where the risk factor for error is higher. I don’t know about anyone else, but I am so grateful there are people who are willing to put themselves in these working conditions. I’m not sure I’d be so brave.
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I will forever blame the midwives for not allowing me back to the hospital and my Ob for letting me go home in the first place.
I have included my story on here and it speaks for itself.
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Where is your story on here Becx? I would love to have a read if you have the URL or something.
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It’s a bit long winded and futher down this page on here. Sorry I can’t tell you how far.
Very therapeutic to talk about it again.
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For bub #2 I was encouraged to write a birth plan.
First son, I was quite young (24) and was planning on an active birth, wanting to walk around, sit on a ball etc. But as soon as I got to the hospital I was hooked up to a monitor and had to stay put. Finally had an epidural and then it was marvellous. I really enjoyed watching the contractions on the screen and not in my body. Ended up having an emergency caesar as the baby’s heart rate was dropping too much with each contraction. The cord was around his neck and strangling him. Lovely healthy boy (shame about him turning 12 recently!)
Second son, all I wanted was a planned caesar. It went well the first time, just let me do it that way. The midwives helped me change my mind, on the proviso that I could change it back. Fast forward to delivery… excruciating pain from the first contraction, unable to move (surely no one else has had that much pain – well that I what I told my midwife). I begged, cried, sobbed, begged again for that caesar. And was told “you are doing fine”. I later begged for the epidural… only to be ignored, then told it was too late. Second son also had the cord around his neck and had a “true knot” in the cord, had to be resuscitated and spent his first day in NICU. All is good now, but it was SOOOO traumatic.
Currently pregnant with child #3, and am definitely having a planned caesar. As I say “I have cord issues”
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At the risk of oversharing I too thought I had no birthing plan until I was thinking about it as I was reading this post.
My birthing plan was don’t panic, and don’t deficate infront of my husband
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I agree with Mia – didn’t have birth plans for either of my kids and tried to go in with an open mind. I just wanted to be surrounded by experts and to have a healthy baby.
I do think, like many have said, it’s a good idea to discuss preferences with your doctor. After my first birth (induced because of pre-eclampsia, long, heaps of intervention, forceps, episiotomy, painful recovery) I told my dr I didn’t want to start an induction at night, preferred a low-dose/turned down epidural (if needed) so I could push effectively etc. My second birth was fantastic and so different! Both times I had no issues bonding or feeding fortunately, although my first experience did take me a while to get over. Obviously, everyone is different but I think it’s important to have a flexible approach…
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Why would they not give you an alternative analgesia…? Seems strange that if you couldn’t have an epidural then you weren’t allowed ANYTHING at all. There are other things they could have done…
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I had a sheepish plan for my first that I was too embarresed to show anyone and had a horrible birth experience, ending in emergency cesear, heamorige ( I have no idea how to spell all these things!) etc etc.
I suffered PTSD: sobbing in the shower when anyone I knew gave birth, general depression vibes, real strong pain when I thought about the birth. This went on for almost 3 years.
My second birth I really worked hard to resolve my issues. I used a doula and I had a really tight birth plan that I showed to EVERYONE numerous times leading up to the birth. I had a strong support team while I birthed and MY BIRTH WAS GREAT!!!! (except for the bloody 3rd degree tear…)
I NEEDED my birth plan and IT TOTALLY WORKED!!! And my PTSD is all gone.
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Wow! That soun ds TOTALLY empowering with your 2nd! GOOD ON YOU!
Can you share what state you are from?
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I’m from melbourne. Both my births were at the Mercy hospital but both experiences completely different.
Having a VBAC after a traumatic birth is an amazing experience – definitely the hardest yet best thing I’ve ever done. I was on an absolute high for days. I sort of couldn’t believe I had done it and had to keep reminding myself that I did!!!
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I thought it was a bit strange at the time but when I was pregnant with my first child a friend told me not to worry if I didn’t feel ‘in love’ with the baby right away – she hadn’t. I had always believed it would be immediate like all the stories you hear. My birth didn’t look like anything I had hoped either – I didn’t have a ‘plan’, I just wanted to do as much on my own and drug free as possible and see what happened. I was in labour all morning but not dilating by the time I got to hospital. The midwives practically bullied me into an epidural telling me I wouldn’t make it and I lay on the bed for the next 8 hours watching the contractions on the screen. By 10pm there was still nothing happening and I went for a caesar. I was SO out of it by then I can only remember what happened by the pictures taken. It took three days for the ‘love’ to kick in and then weeks of feeling like a failure over the non-’birth’ story.
Now, pregnant again, I am told I will have to have another caesar due to a very low placenta. It’s our last, so no natural birth story or experience for me.. I know the end goal is a healthy bub and mum which I agree with.. I just feel a little cheated. I know that’s probably offensive to childless women everywhere and I’m sorry about that.. but it’s just how I feel. Birth plans are okay.. just be prepared to change them.
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Best advice my sister ever had for me was not to worry if I didn’t get the ‘Huggies Moment” when the baby was first born.
I think I was so shocked she was actually alive (having lost a lot of babies) that it took me weeks to allow myself to have that Huggies Moment of rush of love.
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Lying on the bed with an epidural will not progress labour.
I am so sorry for your experience; in most cases it seems completely unnecessary.
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Oh unichick! What’s with the epi bashing?
I lay on a bed with an epidural and my labour progressed very rapidly thanks very much. I too have heard it can slow labour down – “can” being the objective word. Not “will”.
Unless you’ve got some very real facts and figures re the epidural can you please be a bit more objective for all the pregnant women out there? Giving birth is big enough as it is without a one sided opinion popping up time and time again.
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Epidurals affect the natural hormones that are released when a woman is in labour such as oxytocin, beta-endorphins and epinephrine etc (from Sarah Buckley’s ‘Gentle Birth Gentle Mothering’).
Of course it is different for everyone, but this is not a ‘one sided opinion’, just scientific evidence. I do not believe that unichick is ‘epi bashing’, just stating some of the things that research has shown.
Of course, we are so lucky to have effective methods of pain relief, however we must be aware that there are possible side-effects.
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Unichick, I am sorry that you an epidural wasn’t helpful in your situation. But for me, it was bloody glorious. About to have my third baby, and my third epidural. And my last labour lasted 3 hours total, with an epidural. Here’s hoping the third time around goes as smoothly.
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My first birth I had a plan written out. Unfortunately my body was unaware of my plan. I went from 5 mins apart to 1 min apart like my body flicked a switch. By the time we got to the hospital I was begging for an epidural only to be told that it was too late. The midwife simply took my nicely typed 12 font double spaced plan and threw it on a table at the end of the room never to be seen again. I may have at that point used some choice words followed by hysterical pleading and offering of the soon to be first born to whoever would give me drugs to stop the pain. Eventually he was born but not before he went into stress and was born not breathing thanks to an incompetent doc. To top it off as I was sitting in the stirrups after and they brought in the nursing students, without asking, to look at the largest tear they’d seen in ages. After 10 humiliating minutes of being sewn up and hearing a running commentary, “You’ll see where it tore here….we need extra stitches….” complete with oohs and ahhs from the students and frequent leaning in to look closer. Shocker of an experience overall. Pretty sure none of that was in the plan I wrote out, they could have at least brought in the exercise ball or lit some incense to make me feel better.
Second time round we went private, planned date of inducement and epidural, but that was it, short and sweet plan. Oh blessed epidural. Manna from heaven. Much more pleasant experience overall. The lack of stress from pain meant I enjoyed the experience far more. They let it wear off enough at the end that I could push but the pain was minimal and no tear or cut. I loved that plan and loved my anaesthetist even more especially when he pointed out that little button I could push to top it up.
Overall, I’m glad to have both my boys. The first experience whilst bad, didn’t deter me from going back again. I have friends who do it au naturale and others who opt for pre-planned C section and max drugs. Plan or don’t plan, drugs or no drugs. Whatever gets you through I say.
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My daughter’s birth was nasty. The non-plan was to just take it as it comes, do it as natural as possible but if drugs and other interventions were needed then they were needed and I wasn’t going to try to be stoic about it. That being said I guess everything went to plan, but I really wasn’t expecting a 36hr labour ending with an emergency ceasarian. The first 20hrs were ok, but then the pain got intense and I had some pethidine on top of the gas, then some more, then my waters finally broke, then the pain got so intense and they wouldn’t give me any more pethidine so I had an epidural, then my bits still wouldn’t dilate enough so after 36hrs I had an emergency ceasarian. It all sucked. I was so tired and then I had to put up with bloody family coming to visit and I couldn’t even move my legs yet! I was a bit traumatised by it all, I’m pretty sure a professional would say I had some PTSD. It took ages for me to adjust to a new life and recover from the surgery. I felt like I needed 2 weeks holiday and instead had to deal with a newborn! Bonding with my daughter was difficult.
Then round 2. My daughter was about 6 months old when I became pregnant with my son. At first I thought I’d have another ceasar, then I became terrified that my body wouldn’t be able to handle that surgery again and that I would die on the operating table from massive blood loss. With that in mind my only option was a VBAC, but that still terrified me after my first experience. I went to the VBAC classes and it was there that I found out that someone was supposed to have told me after my first labour not to get pregnant for at least 8 months, this did not reassure me. Also when I told my labour story to the group everyone gasped, I thought that would at least be a place where I could find someone else with a similar tale to tell, but no mine was the worst. So there I was pregnant and terrified of giving birth any way possible so I kinda just hung in there. When I went into labour I kept quiet about it, my partner and I were reorganising the kids rooms and I was moving books from one room to another, I was in no hurry to get anywhere after the disappointing first 20hrs of my previous labour. As soon as I finished and sat down the contractions kicked in and I was like “my god, call the hospital we have to go!” The half hour journey was excruciating, but we made it in time. Sadly I should have called a lot earlier because I got there so late they wouldn’t give me any pethidine, then when I asked for an epidural they lied to me about sending for an anaesthetist! I gave birth to my son after 6 hours labour with nothing but gas! And then the best bit, it all happened after visiting hours so no-one could visit until the next day!
I think having such a comparitively easy labour for my second really helped heal a lot of the trauma from my first. I think I bonded with my boy a lot quicker because I wasn’t so tired and in pain. The recovery time is massively quicker too, three days after having my son I felt the way I did six weeks after having my daughter, I also think this helped bond with him better.
I think that the key to my success second time around was being active. Spending three hours moving books between rooms and keeping active rather than lazing about on the couch was what made the labour so quick and easy (yes it was still extremelly painful but that disappears as soon as the bub is born). Active labour is the key IMO, with my first I was a very lazy woman in labour and it did me no good.
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and another more positive thing about my first birth, I went to school with the Dr. who stitched me up and she did the most amazing job, thank you Dr. Hare! 3 years on I can barely see or feel the scar!
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I know a lot of people say that if you let the doctor use interventions it can lead to complications but my doctor did and I’m glad he did! I was similar to you in that I was having regular 7-12min contractions at home for 24hrs with no progression. We went to hospital cos I had no sleep and increasingly painful contractions; after they broke my waters (with little discussion) it was still slow-going. Using the syntocinin drip a few hrs later really got me dilating and then giving birth within 6hrs after broken waters. I think if I had of had no interventions I would have been laboring for days and been too bloody exhausted to do anything. And I hoemmeraged afterwards but a drip with meds helped that and I was fine. I was very happy with my first birth. I really think if I had of insisted on no interventions I could have ended having to have an emergency C section. 36 wks pregnant now and curious to see how it all goes 2nd time round. I have the same ob in the same private hospital and hoping to deliver “naturally” again, which to me means pushing them out, with whatever interventions deemed necessary. I trust my doc and the midwives at the hospital. I know some people have awful experiences, which is sad, but I really believe that that’s the exception to the rule of dedicated hard-working people.
I’m a bit scared of a having a C section but will do if it is deemed the best for bub and me…
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What a timely post! I’m due to give birth to my 2nd child in 6 weeks and am “planning” a hypnobirth experience this time around. I’m doing this because I’m curious and because two of my friends did it and experienced calm, pain-relief free births and because, with my first, despite being a wonderful experience overall, I felt that with all the interventions (waters broken for me, inducement drip, epidural) I was somehow ‘out of the loop’.
However . . . I agree with some of the posters below in that it’s all about managing your expectations and stating preferences rather than definites. I ‘prefer’ to use hypnobirth techniques for this birth, but if any complications arise, I will put myself in the hands of the experts because, at the end of the day, all the planning in the world can’t help if a baby decides to come in 1 hour or turns itself into the breech position, etc. And the most important thing is a healthy baby and mother at the end of it.
Whilst I was a bit nervous about bringing it up with them, both my ob and the midwives at the Mater support hypnobirths. In fact my ob (whom I know many of you will have had, he’s quite well known) said that he wished more women would educate themselves about the techniques – how interesting!) So yes, we will be writing a sort of birth preferences sheet, but it’s more of a reference for ourselves and my husband will use it to let the midwives know what we’d prefer each step of the way IF possible and IF there are no complications (eg. don’t offer pain relief – we’ll ask if we want it; baby to be laid on my chest rather than being carted off immediately, etc)
I’m intrigued by hypnobirthing because the premise (ie. we Western women are conditioned to think birth is painful and scary, we therefore fear it and fear = tension = pain) makes sense to me. I want to try the breathing and visualisation techniques for avoiding fear and tension and see if my body can do it.
Regardless, the hypnobirth reading and classes have taught me so much more about my body and the whole birthing experience than I knew before that I think it will help me, whatever happens. Which makes me think how important “knowledge” is in preparing us and helping us to manage our expectations.
We’ll see!!! I’ll let you know how I go. Natural all the way or back in bed with my old friend Mr Epidural . . .
http://bumparella.blogspot.com
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My Ob recommended Hypnobirth. One good thing I can credit him with!!!
Another good book to read is Ina May’s guide to childbirth. First half of the book is birth stories. I use some of these experiences to help me focus.
Good luck, it’s an amazing calm experience.
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Becx, Im trusting this book is a good one, I just bought it on your recommendation
Hahahaha.
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Totally agree with everything you have said Michelle and so happy to hear you say it!
) I am planning (as much as I can) a hypnobirth too. The books I have read are so incredibly inspiring and actually makes me so proud to be a woman! Sounds so corny hearing myself saying it, but the readings I have done just confirm that women’s bodies were created to give birth. Physiologically, we were not made to enjoy the sex part, then to be stuck with the ‘suffering’ part that is birth – there has to be more to it, surely! That is what i have loved about my pregnancy process. Learning about and being amazed about what the woman body can do.
When I found out I was pregnant, I was epi all the way, no questions, but I stumbled across an article in one of the mags in a Bounty Bag that talked about Calm Birth. That lead me to youtube and witnessed my first hypnobirth. My goodness, if it is possible and I can do it, bring it on! Looked so serene and peaceful!
Becx, I am also reading Ina May’s Guide to childbirth – another great read for anyone who is interested in wanting to know more! Loving it!
Anyways, whatever happens happens, but I am pumped about it!
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I was planning on an epidural for #1, which I got, but then the stupid midwife turned it off during the actual birth so I could feel when to push. Well, I never did feel the urge to push but I felt the pain alright! But really that was fine, although I have no pride in not having had pain med for the birth — it wasn’t by choice! I should also point out that it took about 4 weeks for me to start to bond with baby.
Because I’ve since had cancer/surgery, I have to have a ceaser for #2. This was never in my plan! I’m glad I have time to get used to it, but I’m struggling to find positive stories. I don’t feel that I will be any less of a mother because I’m not giving birth ‘naturally’ second time around, and it really upsets me when people ask. It’s none of your business!
I haven’t read all the comments yet but someone has said they had a really good ceaser experience so I’m going with that.
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Hey love….had a great c-section experience – emergency c-section, not much to tell, the midwives and doctors were so so lovely, cut me open pulled bubs out (took all of 5 minutes), made sure she was OK and then gave her to me for a cuddle while one of the doctors took the happy snaps for us. Beautiful. I then wen’t into recovery for 2 hours and then back to my room for more cuddles from bubs. The really tough pain from the operation only lasted a week. This time I’m having a planned c-section (cos of what happened last time) so fingers crossed it is just as positive.
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I hope I can give you a bit of reassurance. I’ve had two wonderful c-section experiences. Both were planned for various reasons and both were calm, happy experiences (first one terrified beforehand but that was more about knowing I was about to become a mother!). From the moment they started to the moment I saw my baby was about 5 minutes – truly bizarre – and then both times I held them in my arms while they were stitching me up. First time shellshocked silence, second time tears of joy! No real pain, and great recoveries both times. I’ve blogged before about preparing for a planned c-section if you’re interested. Best of luck. kateinlondon x
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That is exactly my story!
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Heya Josie Y,
I can also say that my planned c-section was a very positive experience. The theatre staff were really nice to me, we were all chatting the whole time. My husband was right there. There was no rush or anything. Obviously nothing hurt during surgery, but I could feel movement, odd sensation but weird rather than upsetting. My wish to have baby straight away on me was taken into account. Everyone cooed over the beautiful baby boy, a few tears from my midwife and of course heaps from me and my husband. Surgeon suggested baby was so sweet, could he take him home too?
Baby breastfed straight away. Was a bit ouch for a while on the surgical scar, but was up and on my feet gingerly walking within 24 hours. Incredible how quickly the body heals, just needed to be careful about not using stomach muscles for a couple of weeks. I am having another c-section in 4 weeks and have no concerns about it at all. The toughest part for me was the insertion of the spinal epidural, which I find weird. The thing which helps is trusting the anaethetist and staying calm – after all they do this job every day.
I also have to have a c-section for medical reasons, and make no apologies for it, and won’t withstand any judgement. I am, however, immensely grateful that our public health system funds this. I am immensely grateful to have one healthy child and am looking forward to having another
All the best!
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I too had a really great planned c-section experience with my second child. I t was a really lovely, happy, calm experience and there was very little pain afterwards. It is possible!!
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I thought I went into my first birth with an open mind. I was sure that my body would know what to do and I would just see how I went with pain relief. Ha! My daughter was born by Caesar after 22 hours of labour which included a midwife getting me to push when I was not fully dilated. I was devastated and shocked by how hard the recovery was. I really struggled with people telling me “but when you see your baby for the first time, it’s all worth it” I did not feel that way at all. Also found it difficult to hear some women who had a bit of a smug attitude about their births, as though because they had a birth plan that was why their delivery went the way they wanted. I had a planned Caesar with my 2nd daughter and am having a 3rd soon. I definitely struggled after my first birth and carried the issues around for ages. This pregnancy a midwife friend referred me to the birthtalk.org.au site which was fantastic. It really validated that birth trauma is real and doesn’t pass judgement on how you get through your delivery. I wish I had found this sooner as it really made a difference to me.
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I suppose it’s how you interpret things that happen in your life.
My son was induced at 7 days overdue and born 9 days overdue. Yep. That’s right. A 49 hour labour with an emergency caesarean at the end of it.
I also did not have any drugs until the last twelve hours or so and then everything was thrown at me.
In my mind though, I’m not bothered by my birth experience. I cetainly never aimed to have such a long and active labour and never wanted to have a caesarean. Ultimately though, my son was born healthy and I was okay, and to me that’s really all that matters. By saying that, I certainly do not mean to take away anything from those who feel differently about their birth. This is just MY perspective.
I wonder if we give enough thought and support to the trauma that our husbands, boyfriends, support people, etc experience in having to watch the person we love go through so much. Quite often they are the ones who are watching everything that is going on and hearing the hushed voices of the doctors, midwives etc.
Oh. One other thing that I didn’t count on for my labour…I went to high school with one of the midwives. Yes, we were friends, but not that good friends if you know what I mean!!
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