by MIA FREEDMAN
This week, someone referred to me as ambitious and I bristled. It was said neutrally and without rancour but it made me uncomfortable. Later, drilling down into why, I realised that whenever I hear that word used there’s a negative subtext to it. Wait, whenever I hear that word used about a woman. In a man, ambition is a virtue but “She’s so ambitious” always piggy backs an implicit slur. It means she’s ruthless. She’s competitive. She’s calculating. She neglects her family.
Often, it’s simply code for ‘she’s a bitch’.
Ok yes, I’ve used it that way myself.
So am I ambitious? Yes, I guess I am. I love my work. I strive to succeed at it and I’ve always wanted to kick big career goals ever since I dreamed of being an editor aged 12.
But there have been blips.
For about 12 months after I have a baby, I lose my ambition entirely. Out it pops, along with the placenta. “I just want to spend the rest of my life at home folding teeny tiny socks” I once cooed to a girlfriend while lying on the floor gazing at my newborn daughter. “Can you believe how minuscule these things are? The size of thumbs! How do you even MAKE socks this small? Would there be a special machine?”
At the time, this issue seemed fascinating to me.In those early days when I’m flooded with relief to be safely holding a healthy baby in my arms and before sleep deprivation turns me into a poltergeist, I am very mellow if slightly dull. Calm and dreamy. Totally focussed on my baby. Blissfully disinterested in the outside world. Endlessly grateful to my husband for providing his seed. In other words, totally unlike my normal self.
The first time it happened, after giving birth to my first child, I was taken by surprise as my career care factor plummeted to zero. Job? What job? Having sworn blind to my bemused boss that I’d need only a few weeks maternity leave, I was initially skeptical when she insisted I take four months. Really? But how would I survive without my job? How would my job survive about me?
And then I gave birth and fell madly in love. Game over. For a while anyway. Having worked full-time since I was 19, I delighted in the novelty of being home during the week and focussing on nothing more mentally taxing than trying to remember which boob I’d last fed on. Fortunately my mother – who’s always strived to combine work and family -reminded me there’s a big difference between being at home for a fixed period on maternity leave and being at home full stop, The End. “Don’t quit your job just yet, she urged me and thank heavens she did.
It’s like those people who holiday in Byron Bay and after a week start thinking about moving there permanently to open an organic juice bar. Holidays are different to real life. And so is maternity leave. Wait, can I please delete that analogy because maternity leave is NOT like a holiday. Apart from all that lying around the pool reading books while hot cabin boys bring you cocktails, maternity leave and holidays really have nothing else in common. Fact.
Look, for those who don’t wish to work after babies, I salute you but it was never my dream.
I love my work and even during pregnancy, I can never imagine being at home full-time. Then I hold a newborn in my arms and I become fixated with teeny tiny socks.
After experiencing this three time now, I’ve accepted it’s stupid for me to make any big decisions about work (or life) until my baby is around one.
The problem with this of course is that almost as soon as you announce your pregnancy, people start asking “what are you going to do about work?”
Hello, impossible question. Because who knows really. It’s impossible to predict how you’ll feel in those early months. Some women are surprised by the gravitational pull of a baby while others discover they’re not cut out to be home alone with an infant day after month after year. Then there are those whose babies have unexpected health needs or whose lives suffer other types of unexpected turmoil, throwing their careful plans to the wind.
In just one generation, there’s been a social revolution around when women return to work after having kids.
In the 80s, most mothers waited five years after having a baby before going back to work. In the nineties, this dropped to three years. And this decade it’s been one year. According to a recent report in The Australian: “Almost half of all mothers in two-parent families are back at work before their youngest child turns one, completing a social revolution than has seen the dividing line between home and career disappear in less than a generation.”
Social researchers point to two main reasons for the change: higher real estate prices mean two incomes are required to support a household. And more women are better educated and actually WANT to work.
I guess you might call them…..ambitious.
When did you or do you intend to return to work after giving birth? Would you call yourself ambitious?








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I had my first when I was part way through uni. I took a week off from classes (a 3/4 load) after giving birth. But there weren’t that many contact hours so it wasn’t a big strain. By the time I finished my degree, I didn’t start full time work until the year my son was turning 5.
With my daughter, I went back after 12 months. I had planned to take 2 years off, but fnances dictated an earlier return. Thankfully I had a good boss who accommodated a fair amount of flexibility when I first went back – working from home sometimes and flexible hours. We used to have telephone conversations about work while I was breastfeeding (and he knew it). Thankfully he had young kids around the same age and was nonplussed.
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I always went back to work after 12 months however, only part-time. I feel very lucky/blessed that I didn’t have to go back full time as I had absolutely no desire and still don’t. When my daughter was 2 and my son was 12 months I went back to work doing a 3 day fortnight. Honestly, It really felt like I was a full time SAHM as my few days at work felt like an easy breezy little holiday that I could do with my eyes shut. I also fell pregnant again that year with my third and final.
I completely understand the thinking here except for me I feel like the whole never wanting to go back to work lasts until they are 3ish. Even though I’ve felt like that I’m so glad I always went back regardless to keep my skills up and stay current as now that my youngest will have his last year at home next year I’ve started thinking about wanting to up my days and feeling like I can cope.
I think one huge difference is the type of job you have. If you’re just working a low paying job that you don’t enjoy to pay the bills I can see why there’s no joy in going back. For the lucky ones who have a high paying job that is their passion it’s a lot easier to sing the benefits of being a working Mum.
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It’s news to me that ambitious means different things for men and women. I’ve never known of it used in the ‘bitch’ sense but if it is let’s own it women! Let’s take the word! Yeah I’m a bitch an awesome bitch living the life I want.
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I think it is great that Women have a choice of when to go back to work. However, having gone through the guilt trip about having to get back to work ASAP and finding it the worst decision all round, I say back off ! I went back to my corporate job, shoved my son in daycare only to pay most of my wage in daycare, rushing around all day to do my job, to then rush to daycare in time before it closed and rush home to play happy calm mummy. Its beyond rediculous that staying at home to be a mother and primary carer to your children is so under-valued. A change needs to happen culturally in our society, for the future rights of the woman and for our children and our fathers x
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I have met and know of some ambitious men and women who I would eagerly describe as bitches. No code intended.
These good folk generally do not handle criticism well. They do not like to be questioned. They will go out of their way to crucify anyone who crosses them. They generally will refuse to see that the coin does indeed have two sides. When they do, it is blatantly obvious that they are doing so begrudgingly.
That has been my experience.
On the other hand, I have met and know of many ambitious people who are the complete opposite. They value other opinions. They don’t surround themselves with toadies and “Mini-me” types. They are quick to let you know that they don’t appreciate anyone’s lips on their backsides.
That has been my experience.
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I went back to work when my daughter was two. I feel guilty about it every day. I would love to be a stay at home mum. I would love to be there for all her school events (she is now 6). I feel guilty about the time I am losing with her due to my work but I have no choice but to work. She would love me to be there all the time and cries sometimes when I leave for work. She asks me often to go to School things but I can’t due to work. She says “the other mums are going.” The look in her eyes when I say I won’t be able to go breaks my heart. I don’t want to look back on this time when she is older and regret the time I lost. I am so tired when I get home I don’t have the energy to play games and run around with her. I feel like I am failing her as a mum.
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Don’t. You are providing a great role model for your daughter.
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Oh dear, I feel sad for you little girl..
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I feel sad that both Mum and daughter are being forced into a situation they don’t want too, Anonymous. But your comment really seems to be laying on the guilt. Otherwise why not sympathise with the Mum, too? She obviously hates it as much as the kid. She has NO choice, just like the kid, otherwise she would quite obviously change.
I feel like I’m looking up at that comment sitting on the back of a high horse and I really think it should hop back down to reality with a bit of empathy.
To the OP, hang tough, do what you can, and know that your daughter will ALWAYS love a Mum that does the best she can for her!
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Why do u feel sad for her little girl? Saying that u r pretty much adding to the guilt the mum already suffers with. She is prob doing her best in a hard situation.
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The mother has already said that the look in her little girls eyes breaks her heart, so I really don’t think it’s unfair for someone else to comment that they also feel sad for the child. It’s called compassion. She’s missing her mother after all. do I get demonised for feeling sad for a little girl too?
I’m sure the mum is doing her best, we all are but I don’t think there’s a mum out there, working or not who hasn’t felt guilt of some sort, whatever their situation. This mum is doing what is right for her but obviously it comes with consequences, as do all our choices.
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Honey, dont feel guilty. You are doing the best you can. Kids will always tell you about someone else who has it better than them. And believe me, the more you do for them, the more they expect!
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Anon, you’re doing the best you can. My mother had to put my brother in child care at six weeks old to go back to work. She used to get horrible comments from ignorant people, mostly other women sadly, about her choice. In reality, our father committed suicide when she was pregnant and she had to work to support the family, she just didn’t sing it from the rooftops. My brother is 22 now and a delightful, well-adjusted, happy person and they’re very close, too.
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I would’ve loved that 3 years off idea from the 90s, that would work in so much better with my kids. It’s not only the money that we’d struggle without though. It’s knowing just how impossible it would be to secure a new job after those 3 years (in my profession). Really impossible. And that’s the cruel reality for us.
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Maybe it was a statistical norm, but I went back far earlier than that and my oldest was only 16 months in the 80s. I knew a lot of women that were back at work earlier than the 3 and 5 years.
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I think that last stat that more than half of mothers return to work before the child is one would also be evident of the fact that there’s no choice, ..cost of living has increased dramatically in the last 5 years. I know that’s a fact when my partner and I get around to popping one or two out, we haven’t yet, simply because we just can’t afford to. And we both on a pretty good wicket too! After 6 months I’ll need to go back to work I think!!
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Completely agree with you NJ. My partner and I are trying to get pregnant at the moment. We have had to save up 3/4 of my yearly wage to give us some security in the first year with our mortgage and day to day living.
After 9 months I will need to go back to work or we will end up financially stressed. The government maternity leave payments will also help us get through the first year.
I agree that the cost of living has got to the point where it’s just not feasible to survive on one income alone.
We are supposed to be getting married as well in the next year or so…but it’s looking like that will be a very low key affair because there is simply not enough money to do everything!
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I dont know if I am ambitious, but I intended on returning to my job part time after 1 year, as the company I worked for in London, had a wonderful maternity leave policy, and the women in the office who had done so came back 3 days a week and during my pregnancy gave me lots of tips on how to manage. I had a 12 year career that I was immensely proud of and successful, and I wanted to continue long term, and happily married. So it was all set – go, have baby! I wanted it all.
Then everything changed, within 10 weeks of his birth I was, minus husband back in Australia, with my son living with my parents. I will spare you the details on the culture shock it was going from glitzy carefree busy working London life to the burbs of Perth being a new mum fragile after a difficult birth with only her parents for company and viewed as brain-cell-free by most of society… It was hard. Moved us into a home of our own 5 mins from doting grandparents, and went for a full time job when he was 1, thinking I had no choice. 3 tough interviews and got the job! Yay… spent most nights crying at the thought of leaving my bundle in day care. Started introducing him to it a day a week which broke my heart. Pre-motherhood? Too scared to touch a baby! Now? Goo goo gaga I was a polar opposite! But then… the news the job had been cancelled, with abject apologies from the HR.
I was ELATED. I realised what I wanted to do and that was spent some more time with my little guy, lick my wounds and rebuild our lives. So I took a few more months off (utterly grateful that I could financially, I know this is a rare thing to be able to do), then stumbled across a business I could build from scratch, but work it around my son. Gave it a go and within 14 months was going strong and is to this day. My son is now at school so I have more time for the business plus have recently recommenced work 3 days per week in a job in the industry I previously worked in – again, grateful beyond WORDS to find this second job which I am so far loving!). Am I daring to believe the work life balance can be attained? Hang on, still don’t have the boyfriend… should I be ambitious for that too? At the moment happy to wait. Happy being the operative word.
Yes I think I am ambitious… to live a joyous life.*
*sorry for the cheesiness! Haha
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Yay for you Deb, sounds like you’ve worked hard and thought hard to get the balance you need.
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Thank you, it’s hard won but is worth fighting for xxx We only get one shot at this life!
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After 6 months of giving birth to our second baby we found ourselves in a horrible financial position. Despite my husband working in TV 6 days a week doing various “things” we realised that there’s “no money in television” (still isn’t) and so I got my sick, sorry self back out there…….only my “out there” was a little unusual.
I don’t ever remember being ambitious – but I was terribly eager to be engaged in the really creative stuff.
I’d had a few years doing ABC Radio Drama and commercial work in recording studios in Sydney and had gotten a reputation for handling “character work”, but now that we’d moved to a different city – I really had to start all over again……..nobody knew me, or cared.
So I deliberately re-auditioned for the ABC ( I got back in ) and then set about trundling around the agencies and recording studios with my demo.
Now that I look back, I must have created a dodgy impression……..I guess I looked like a “long-haired hippy” AND I was pushing a PRAM.
I had to get past the immaculately coiffed women on the front desk who looked at me like I was an impoverished wanna-be – it was a wonder anyone in those places even got my demo at all.
Thankfully – one of the recording studio guys loved my baby and decided to play my demo……..”Can you work tomorrow ?”………”Yes I can – but I’ll have to bring my baby with me’…..”Aw…he’s so cute…..I don’t think our receptionist will mind a bit”
So I did……..and they didn’t seem to “mind a bit”……..and so I think I started a trend where lots of voice-over girls brought their babies with them.
Now that “baby” is a sound engineer for one of those studios who were so kind to us……lol.
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I love that your bub grew into a sound guy – that’s a classic.
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I returned to work a couple of weeks ago. My daughter was 10 months old and in daycare on the days I work. In my job I am able to work part time (from 1-4 days per week) until my youngest child starts primary school.
I am currently working 2 day p/w and will work 3 days p/w from next year until she (or my youngest, if we have another baby at some point) starts school.
I would have liked to have taken the rest of this year on unpaid maternity leave, but we couldn’t do it on one wage. I took 28 weeks mat leave on half pay and then 18 weeks on paid parental leave, so I have always contributed something financially, which has helped us hugely. I am very grateful for being able to take mat leave at half pay and then paid parental leave. It allowed me to stay at home with my baby and I have enjoyed it so much.
I am not ambitious in my job in that I don’t plan to move up the ladder. I want to be the best I can be in the position I am in now, as well as having enough time for my family. I don’t think I could handle the responsibility of working full time and/or in a higher position, spending time with my family and running a household at this time in my life. But who knows how I will feel in the future.
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I was made redundant from my first “proper” job after graduating from uni, after only 4 months. I then discovered I was 10 Weeks pregnant! So at that point my career took a long pregnant pause. I worked at jobs, but nothing I would classify as a career move. We just needed to keep the cash flow going. It was the most demoralising experience of my life, I felt all that time at uni was wasted. But looking back now, it set us on a path that we are so glad to be on. I now have three kids, I went back to uni to complete a teaching degree, so when my kids are at school I can go back to work full time, and have school holidays with them. im turning 30 in january, and feel really proud of what I have achieved. I love being a mum, and I am really glad that I didn’t feel pressured to go back to work due to a mortgage, like many of my friends are now facing. My 30′s will be the time to get my career going again. And then we will buy the house!
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I NEVER thought I would work when my kids were little…yet I returned to work when my son was 10 months old. Strangely enough, it wasn’t as big of deal as I thought it would be. Probably because I am a nurse and only pick up shifts when it’s convenient for our family (mostly weekend evenings when the little one is tucked in bed anyway). This flexibility somehow makes me feel like I’ve ‘cheated’ the definition of a working mom, even though between my husband and myself someone always seems to be working each day.
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I went back when baby1 was 11 mths old after swearing I’d never go back to work. Baby 2 is now 4 months old and I plan on going back when he is 7-8 months. We’re lucky that we can survive on one income, but I love my job, I’m good at it, and I miss adult company. However I only plan on working part time for the next 2 years, then maybe increase. You can’t plan these things, just gotta roll with it.
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I returned to work part-time when both my children were 6 months’ old (as my workplace didn’t have any facility for someone in my situation, I used to go to the nearest restaurant at lunch time and express milk in the bathroom!).
It wasn’t for the money, although it helped. I enjoyed being with other adults and using my brain for things other than home or child-related. Now that they are no longer babies, but still young and still need me I continue to work part-time but find my “ambition” creeping up and tapping my ego on the shoulder.
I am the most part-time person in my work place which is mostly staffed by childless people younger than me. Who seem to be doing the more important jobs (at work), and therefore getting more recognition in the workplace.
But I struggle to reach a solution that can accomodate my ability to think and do more now with my desire to remain available to my kids by continuing to only work part-time.
I would be interested to hear from others who’ve experienced this particular situation…
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