by JENNY MACKLIN
This morning, the Treasurer and I walked to school. We hadn’t done it for a while, not since our own kids were little.
Before the bell rang, we had coffee and a chat with local parents Elizabeth and Anthony about what they do to make sure their kids are at school and ready to learn.
I think we could have spent the whole day just running through the checklist.
I know exactly what it’s like. My kids are grown up now, but I remember very clearly all the items we had to buy before they started school. Books, pens, pencils, rulers and folders – the list goes on and on. And it gets harder as they get older, and start needing things like computers that seem to cost more than a small car.
That’s before you even get to the uniform shop. And there are the costs that pop up throughout the year, like excursions, music lessons and school camps. Not to mention new school shoes.
I know that the Education Tax Refund has helped a lot of families with these sorts of expenses. Each year at tax time, families could get a bit back for what they’ve spent on school costs.
But I also know that the Education Tax Refund wasn’t helping some families as much as it could have. In fact, about one million families weren’t claiming their money back, or weren’t claiming their full entitlement.
For a lot of people, it was just too expensive to pay up front for all the school costs, and then wait months to get some money back.
The other headache for parents was remembering to keep track of all those receipts so that you can claim at tax time. I know parents have enough going on without having to worry about that.
That’s why we’re changing the system and introducing the upfront, guaranteed Schoolkids Bonus.
From today, families will start receiving this extra help as part of the transition from the ETR to the Schoolkid Bonus.
For eligible families with primary school children, you’ll be receiving $409 per child and for families with secondary school children you’ll be receiving $818 per child. Then from next year, we’ll pay the Schoolkids Bonus in two separate installments – before the start of Term 1 and Term 3 – so the money is in your pocket when you need it.
This will be worth about $410 a year for each child in primary school, and $820 a year for each child in high school.
In all, the Schoolkids Bonus will help 1.3 million families to pay for school expenses.
The Schoolkids Bonus means families don’t have to fill out the extra forms, they don’t have to collect all the receipts, and for most families, it means more money in their pocket.
It’s some extra help to makes life a bit easier.
And for Elizabeth and Anthony, it made the walk to school a little lighter this morning.
Jenny Macklin is the Minister for Families, Community Services and Indigenous Affairs, and Minister for Disability Reform.
Did you keep all your receipts each year so that you could claim the old education tax refund? Will this new policy make it easier for you? Do you think this is good Government spending or would you rather see the money go towards other things?








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246 Comments so far
Nope didnt get it due to the fact that we had not caculated our estimations correctly, so although we are infact entitled, the family assistance office is not very clued up as to how I am meant to get it. One said just imput your correct estimation and you should get it automatically, this didnt work, rang them back, they say I may be entitled but they are not sure because I was not entitled to it officially/unofficially on the 8th May I may not get it, but will find out when I lodge my tax return, ive just tried to ring the helpline for help to be informed after several minutes of auto talk that the helpline is not open past 5pm ….Grrreat!!! And in our defence my husband changed jobs halfway through the financial yr and was told to put new income figure down by centrelink.
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I was so angry yesterday that I put fingers to keyboard to let Jenny Macklin know that I’m not pleased at all with all of these means tested hand-outs to “Aussie battler” families. This is yet another tax / benefit / rebate / handout that my family pays ridiculous taxes for and is not eligible for. I agree in helping out those who need it, but so called ‘high income earners’ are constantly handing out their hard earned cash to others and get zip. We’re considered ‘rich’ according to Julia’s govt, but by the time we’ve paid nearly 50% of wages in tax, paid our mortgage (only 25% of income), bills and expenses for family with 3 small people, we’re left with very little. Why should we be penalised for working our bums off and not even afford school items such as a new computer for our school aged kid??? Dumb-founded!
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Can I like this 100 times?
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Recommendations made by the Gonski Report please!
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yawn! just another article designed to pit people against each other.
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This bonus payment and this post makes me so mad.
What happened to people supporting themselves?
Seriously there are people in the comments below stating they have 3 plus kids and they need to money to help with schooling. Or that the money may go to a little treat for their kids! Seriously where is the personal responsibility to only have as many kids as you can afford?
Give the money to the schools where it will actually be used for education and important things like breakfast and health programs for kids genuinely in need.
This is just another example of the current government trying to appeal to ‘working families’ and ignoring every other Australian who contributes their fair share. Bring on the election I say.
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I work in a club – I’ll be very interested to see whether our income in the next few days goes up as all the parents go for a night out on the govt
as happened a few years ago with the stimulus money
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I still gave out six exercise books and lent out 12 pens (it would have been more, but I ran out…) in classes yesterday, so I’m not at all confident every parent is going to put it towards their children’s education. Many will though, and hopefully it makes things easier for them.
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WHY CAN’T PEOPLE EXPRESS THEIR OPINIONS ON THIS FORUM WITHOUT BEING ATTACKED FROM SOMEONE WHO HAS A DIFFERENT VIEW??
I have commented below under my usual name and have had a respectful discussion with mainly one other person who believes the opposite to me. We didn’t call each other names, we didn’t attack. We just presented our points of view and asked questions of the other. Like grown ups.
Look over how some of you have spoken to each other:
whiners
whingers
moaners
bludgers
lazy
first world rants
buyers of flat screen tv, ciggies, alcohol. holidays
quit telling us how hard done by you are
lucky you (sarcastic, of course)
If you can’t afford them, don’t have them
What about me crowd
harping on
etc etc
Is it so hard to respect that fact that an article was written which clearly invited comments. For the single, middle class and above who don’t receive the payout, why can’t they complain that yet again, they are overlooked by the government – any government. For the families who do receive the payments, why can’t they simply express their thanks.
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who do we express our thanks to?
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I don’t know! The politicians who wrote this article expecting it in the form of votes. Don’t be thankful – I probably just insulted people, but at least it wasn’t intentional unlike some of the ways people have been speaking to each other.
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I really believe that the government should stop giving constant hand outs, people have become far too reliant on the government to pick up the slack, I can’t tell you how many times I have heard people say they don’t want to do overtime because it will reduce a payment. Stand on your own two feet Australia and start making smart choices.
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Many poor people wait five years for vital dental worth by the govt. missing teeth preventing people from getting jobs. Wisdom teeth infected for years. Pain. And on here people earning a high income are whining for their 800. Makes me sick.
Because these people whine the loudest their voice gets heard and the middle class continues to get buckets of cash at the expense of finite govt dollars going elsewhere. Here is a tip, if you need a handout because your mortgage is 70 percent of your income you need to look at your choices.
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Considering I was the person who commented about 70% of their income goes on a mortgage, I’ll assume that dig was a not too subtle reference to my situation.
I voiced my opinion about my situation. I did not attack people who received the payment, just expressed my frustration at an ongoing situation with the government.
My ‘choices’ are constantly under review, thankyou very much. I am trying to do all that I can to limit expenses so I don’t become another person on the welfare system. And quite frankly, I like working. I like the feeling of accomplishment at what I have achieved. But I have every right to be frustrated at the situation. The range of incomes to the ‘middle class’ is extensive. A couple hundred dollars less would put below that magical line between welfare and this affluent life you imply I must have.
It is your veiled attack which “makes me sick”
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It wasn’t veiled, it was very clear. If your mortgage is 70% of your income the problem lies with you, not with the government for not supporting you. I didn’t say you were affluent, I said 70% of your income going to your mortgage is not the government’s problem.
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Hang on one minute!
“If your mortgage is 70% of your income the problem lies with you, not with the government for supporting you.”
I think that same thinking can be applied to all the people who pop out kids with no means to support them.
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The implication that the middle class do not need any breaks implies the affluence.
And I would like to point out that MOST people who have commented that they are not eligible for this round of money have not said that they don’t think those who have received it do not deserve it.
Our main argument (feel free to correct me people) is that the middle class and single people especially, are consistently overlooked by the government. How about the government of the day implement policies which positively affect everyone? Rather than $400 – $800 once off to a select few, why not work with gas, water, electricity companies to freeze price increases? This would help every single member of our country. Or a tax cut for everyone? Then there would be millions saved from the ‘School kids bonus’ not required out of tax payer money.
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“70% of their income goes on a mortgage”
When you were doing your sums before buying the house, why did you think 70% going to mortgage was a good diea? Why did you think 30% of income was enough to live on?
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I must point out that banks check mortgage serviceability before lending, so it’s entirely possible that Martini’s mortgage was not 70% of her income at the time.
Circumstances change, bad things happen and life goes on and I applaud Martini for making the most of it and sticking to the choices they have made.
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I’m a mother of seven children with six being in school n I sure as hell don’t spend any bonus I get o flat screen TVs Orr ciggarets n the school kid bonus sure will come in handy new Shoes a new uniform n a bakpak n maybe even a treat after the half yearly fees r payd
I reviewed my ftb part a yesterday but I didn’t get any bonus n
it ain’t showing up on center links online eitherb
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Perhaps you should have bought a TV instead of having 7 kids!
Maybe one of the 6 in school can also teach you basic spelling and grammar; your comment is painful to read.
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I don’t think cash handouts are the most effective way of supporting school costs…and I don’t say that because I object to them going to parents who may spend the money on alcohol, cigarettes, plasma screens or holidays. I just think that it is more effective to pay that money to the schools to ensure that there are no school levies. By doing that, economies of scale can be realised (bulk buying materials, as opposed to parents paying a premium to buy the materials just for their child) and parents can be reassured that, actually, there is no more to pay – the payment ensures that kids are covered to go on excursions and school camps, receive all their books, pens, scissors, materials. It also means that there is a little more equality of opportunity – all children are free to participate in all activities, regardless of their family’s person circumstances. Schools can still fundraise for additional sporting equipment or special trips away through things like school fetes or sausage sizzles at election time or selling chocolates to increase the cash available to them but I strongly believe that we need to get as close to the true meaning of “free education” and while parents still have to pay levies and for excursions and school camps, the costs still comes through the year.
Call me cynical but I do very much feel as though this is more geared to buying votes. I’m not opposed, in principle, to financial support on a means tested basis (and I do very much agree with the current means testing thresholds) but how about we make school as free as possible first?
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Please run for parliament, you have my vote!
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I’m happy we are earning enough money that we don’t get any ftb etc, I’m not happy that we will lose our 30% health fund rebate.
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I agree. The money go round is getting silly. Another day closer to an election.
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terrific news!
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I just get annoyed about the government taking our money and handing it back to buy votes and expecting us to cheer them on for being so generous! It’s taxpayers money – not the governments.
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great to have a piece on this new initiative by Jenny Macklin- my local member for many years and one of our truly valuable politicians. Those in jagajaga always knew we had a great rep – thanks Jenny
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To all those ” what about me” people who do they think would pay the subsidy if they got one too?
They would via increased taxes. Is their any point taking money off the rich to give to the rich?
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There are alot of comments about “whingers who missed out’ and I am one of them so I would like to explain a bit further.
I dont want the money in my hand, would much prefer it to go to the kids school to reduce fees or what ever the school saw fit for spending it on resource wise.
It is not that i even want the money at all. Not being eligible for FTB A does mean that my family have great privlidge and for that I am very grateful. My husband works very hard for what we earn, often being away from home in remote locations for 5 weeks at a time. (Our choice I know)
Please note that I am not talking about students or aged or DSP recipients below.
What gets to me is people who are reliant on welfare that have just as much disposable income as I do without having to lift a finger for it. I think welfare should be a last resort. When people get less money but everything costs less for them where is the incentive to work?
I have family in public housing that wont get a job despite being able to because they would lose the house.
I know a couple who live with their child in public housing that only work part time because other wise they would lose their house and benefits. Neither of these people are doing it really tough.
There is just no incentive for them to work, in fact they will be penalised if they do.
It is hard when your are contributing alot of tax $ being squandered towards people whose life is subsidised for them by the government.
That is the complaint, not that we want the money too.
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You make a decent point but seriously, if these people don’t want to earn money at work to put away super, that is their issue. Incentive? There’s a biggie.
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I’m not upset that I’m not getting the benefits, what I am upset about is that my husband and I work hard although I work part time. I found out that a stay at home mother of 6 young kids will earn as much as me from the government in benefits. The husband earns ok money but they are better off money wise than us. We have one child get nothing, other than the childcare rebate which I am so thankful for. I am not having a go at stay at home mothers, I just don’t get how they can earn as much (in benefits) as someone working 4 days in an ok paying job.
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I hear you. I could never understand how a few friends of mine whose husbands earned huge $$$ still got FamA/B as they were SAHMs, but because I worked part time we weren’t entitled to any benefits, even though our family income was less. At least the threshold has addressed that to some extent but the anomaly is puzzling.
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I wasnt putting them down, I was just puzzled as to how the benefits worked when their income was so much higher than ours, and they were entitled and we weren’t! Maybe if you read my other posts instead of being so rude to me you might understand where I’m coming from.Btw can you make up your mind whether you are accusing me of having a nice house and car or if I live in a caravan….kind of kills your argument a little.
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I was puzzled, not annoyed, and I wasn’t at all heated. I actually admire mums who stay home with their kids, the term SAHM is so widely used I didn’t mean it in a derogatory way!
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anyone in a extreme consumption country like Australia who has more than two children is either very brave or isn’t cognizant of the scale of the multiple crisis we face
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6 kids equal,six times more expensive. maybe in the long run your still much better off.
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Personally I would never begrudge anything a stay at home mum with 6 kids receives. Her husband is also a tax payer. People forget that when they moan about the benefits stay at home mums receive, their husbands usually pay more tax than lower earning dual income familes, so if they receive a little bit of assistance its in recognition of the contribution they are making to their family by caring for their kids themselves and not taking precious childcare places needed by others. She has 6 times the expense and stress as a mum with 1 child. And seriously, there is no way this woman could even consider holding down a job unless she wanted her kids lives to be completely crazy. Running a home with 8 people plus a job? To me that equals complete chaos! Personally working 4 days pw with one child sounds like a pretty nice life compared with a fulltime mum of 6. Her life sounds dreadful.
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Actually, I didn’t receive anything, but that seems to be the norm when you’re a single 20-something middle-income earner. According to the government I’m too ‘wealthy’ to receive anything from them, even though my modest salary is stretched to the max to pay the mortgage on my 1 bedroom shitbox apartment in a crappy suburb that I scraped the money together to buy because that’s all I can afford without a partner.
Oh, and thanks for the Carbon Tax, rising electricity and water prices and the drop in the private health insurance rebate that have completely wiped out the extra money I worked so hard for by doing overtime. I’m now actually worse off. As I’m approaching 30 I now need to decide if I can afford to keep my private health insurance – damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
Maybe I should quit my job and pop out a few kids. Then the government would shower me with money and support. Sure beats working the daily grind to keep going backwards.
Stop treating middle income earners with no kids like they’re invisible. We’re by no means ‘rich.’ We’re the ones who’ll be paying for your aged care through the tax system, and who are paying for all these ‘bonuses’ for people who have kids. I don’t resent the kids and I agree that we need to help people where we can. All I’m asking is that you spread the help ariound instead of always focusing on the same group.
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Here, here – and don’t worry, middle-income earners WITH kids get squat too. We are streched to the limit, budget down to the actual last dollar and sometimes have to skip a weeks grocery shop just to get by, but the government have decided that together my husband and I earn too much. If however, we chucked out jobs and went on the dole, we would be getting amongst the highest amounts of payment they have.
Please explain???
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When my partner and I were together we weren’t eligible for any benefits as we earned too much, but like you say it didn’t feel like it.. That’s fine, we considered ourselves lucky. But if you think people on welfare are just raking it in, why don’t you throw in your job and get the dole? Because the reality is that you are better off with your employment and you know that otherwise you would just go on the dole as would everyone else.
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you could try moving to Greece
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Quixotic – with all due respect, if you aren’t eligible for FTB A and you have more than one kid you have a family income in excess of $120k. You are not a middle income earner. You are statistically a high income earner.
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Dee – That’s according to the govt!!! I’m with Quixotic…by the time you’ve paid a modest mortgage, rates, bills, health costs, groceries and kiddie costs, $120k p.a. is gone and then some!!! And, to get that $120k +, Quixotic and family have worked extremely hard over a considerable period of time…probably foregoing valuable time with said family.
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oh poor you!!!!
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Wrong. My husband and I both work, have 2 children, don’t get family fbA, and we don’t earn $120,000. Cut off limit is $112,000. We earn $113,000 BEFORE tax, take tax and HELP debt out leaves us with not that much more than we would get on benefits. We earn an extra $1000 pa but loose approx $4000pa in benefits!
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How has the carbon tax wiped out your extra money? It hasn’t even been introduced yet.
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Everything can be blamed on the carbon tax, don’t you know?
Pretty sure the Melbourne earthquake was because of the carbon tax.
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Oh, I don’t think so. The introduction of the carbon tax = absolute doomsday. The Melbourne earthquake was probably just God letting us know he’s not happy that the nanny state (Greens, Xenophon) are trying to more tightly regulate pokies. Pokies = bad news, loss of donations to community groups. Carbon tax = apocalypse.
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Couldn’t agree more and I can’t even afford a mortgage (another point altogether) but renting isn’t cheap either!! Further to this I am sick of hearning the we are helping families line. What constitutes a family to the Government, cause I am pretty sure that when I was at school a couple constituted a family, kids weren’t a requirement… Clearly a different opinion from the Government!
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What about the full time students at Tafe,that are till supported fully by their parents.
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Totally agree uni students have HECS what do Tafe kids get nothing . Bloody fees are steep $963 for my childs 1 Semester course plus books etc and no help
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I would like our taxation system to be consistent. If I am assessed for benefits as a married couple on our joint income, then I want to be taxed as a married couple on a joint income. That means our income is treated as shared between two people rather than taxed in the highest bracket of one person (the high income worker). I would also like the assessment criteria to look at the Balance Sheet of the family, rather than the short term view of looking at the Profit & Loss statement.
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Could not agree more- my partner is kiwi, and therefore although he works in Australia and pays taxes (and has for ten years) is not eligible for any financial support when undertaking tertiary education, so he works instead of doing a course he would love to do, to gain a qualification to use in Australia. However, when I applied for assistance with my uni degree, both of our incomes were assessed- I can accept that as a non-citizen he is not entitled to financial support from our government, but why should he be expected to support me as a citizen in my own country? Sorry, rant, i just find it so frustrating!
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I’m a little confused. Would all the people that are angry about the people getting the bonus, still be angry if they received it too?
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I believe we’ll be getting the bonus (although nothing’s in the account yet!) and I am angry about getting it.
Sure, it’s handy, but I would prefer they gave this money to the schools. Or scrapped the Carbon tax. Or just held onto it in preparation for the incoming economic sh!tstorm we’re about to cop from Europe. Yes, yes, I’ve heard all the rhetoric and I’m not normally a doom-and-gloom person but trust me, this is going to be bad even in our neck of the woods.
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re srapping the carbon tax
in order to prevent global warming exceeding 2 degrees C we need to limit global CO2 emissions between the year 2000 and 2050 to a maximum of 1 trillion tonnes of CO2
divide 1 trillion tonnes by 7 billion people and the emission’s per person is approximately 140 tonnes which is less than 3 tonnes per person per year
unfortunately for Australia the average emissions here are 19 tonnes per person so our allowance ran out in 2008.
so our emissions now have to be subsidised by low emission countries or alternately we are heading for runaway climate change
and that means there won’t be a human economy
and you should adopt the position to kiss your arse goodbye
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Just a thought – Does anyone else think this payment was possible poorly timed given the start of the June/July toy sales was also today? I wonder how much of the bonus payments will hit the tills at Target by the weekend? And I say this in good humour – as someone who would probably be in the checkout queue if they were entitled to the bonus…..
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no , because according to most people we’ll be buying alcohol, cigarettes or flat screen TV’s.
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I don’t think that at all, I apologise if I caused any offence. I really only meant that there is a great temptation in the timing in terms of using “bonus” money to maybe put a layby on for Xmas, rather than spend on school items – which generally are bought at the beginning of the school year with maybe a top up at the start of term 3. Just an observation from someone who would be tempted…not a judgment of others.
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Take the SchoolKids bonus out of the equation for a second. FTB customers generally receive advance payments and their Supplement payments at this time of year (early July). This is why the retaillers stage their Toy Sales now. The SchoolKids bonus is just an added bonus (pardon the pun)
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Um….. I receive FTB A & B and have never had an advanced payment. You can apply for early payments in exceptional circumstances but they are payments brought forward not additional payments. You are not entitled to any form of refund until you do your tax return after July 1 and only then if you have been underpaid during the year.
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Sorry, that’s not entirely correct Serena. Customers that receive fortnightly FTB Part A may be eligible to be paid a lump sum of their future payments. Their on-going installments are then reduced. Their is no hardship requirement to claim the advance.
Prior to this financial year, most customers would claim this in late June/early July as this was the most advantageous time to receive it. Then the Supplements are paid once tax returns are lodged.
I work for FAO – hence the Anon!
From the website:
“If you are entitled to receive fortnightly payments of Family Tax Benefit Part A, or both Family Tax Benefit Part A and Part B, you may be eligible to receive part of your payment in advance as a lump sum”.
http://www.centrelink.gov.au/internet/internet.nsf/payments/ftb_a_advance.htm
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And whiners while you are here, read the post about Feng Jianmei. Now there is a lady who really could scream about how unfair life is.
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All these first world rants are making me sick. How lucky we are that this is all we have to worry about while tapping away on our latest gadget. All I can say is we should all, even those who ‘miss out’, be grateful that we live in a society that can support those in need. We all benefit fom this.
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You said it all! I can’t believe what I’m reading in some of these comments! We should be so lucky! We ARE so lucky!
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I can’t bear all this ‘humpf I’m not eligible and I struggle’ stuff. For heaven’s sake, if you have kids and aren’t eligible for FTA A you are on a HIGH income. I’m far happier with my above the threshold income and not getting rebates/assistance like this than I would being a family of four on a family income of $50k or $70k or far far less.
I can understand couples and singles feeling like there is an endless stream of assistance for families and none for anyone else. But I can’t understand high income families complaining.
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Could not agree more! Why is it we expect help / assistance for everything!
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I can see it from both sides. I agree that well paid people don’t need handouts but I understand why it bothers them to see tax dollars become discretionary income for others.
Most people who earn high incomes do so by working hard. They’ve often spent years as broke university students and then worked long and hard to progress in their careers. They sacrifice time with their families to work.
They do this because they believe that the sacrifice is worth it. Most don’t mind paying tax for health and roads and education but it upsets them to see government revenue going to people who might make poor spending decisions when there are so many other good uses.
I think it’s the risk that the money will be wasted that bother people.
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I work hard and I work long hours ,I just don’t earn as much as all the high income people out there. That doesn’t mean I should be vilified because I receive some government assistance.
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I totally agree anon. Noone should be vilified for accepting the payment.
I’m sure it’s a welcome relief for lots of people and I don’t begrudge it but I can still see the other side.
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No I didn’t get it cause I moved my family across the country from NSW to WA to get a job that pays me too much to qualify. People that qualify should consider doing the same thing…it’s hard leaving home but it feels good knowing I’m part of the public purse solution not the problem…
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And what exactly is the “public problem”?
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lucky you had the money to move. I don’t.
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the govt actually pays some people to relocate for work…
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What would be that ‘problem’ to which you refer?
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Sorry I was just trying to say since moving and getting a job in WA and earning more and therefore paying more taxes it feels better than when I was in NSW needing money/benefits from the govt.
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Let’s get this very clear, the assistance package & the school kids bonus is only for families who get family tax benefit part A. It’s amazing how the govt boasts about how it will help millions of families that need it most. I can tell you, my family is worse off and we get a big fat zero. We get nothing to help us cope with the increasing costs of living. We both work, pay our taxes & bills then have very little left over. With the rising costs we’ll either end up being one of thse families who hit rock bottom or we’ll have to try & get higher paying jobs. It just seems the govt is trying to create an upper class & lower class to me. And to those complaining about our life choices by having kids, just remember, these kids are the future taxpayers, doctors, nurses etc that will be helping YOU out in the future!!
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Lets be very clear that families receive family tax benefit a if their income is (something like) $110k for one child and up to $163k for more than three. That is a lot of money. Does it mean that you always make ends meet? No of course not. Higher incomes usually mean higher outgoings. But you are in the spectrum of CHOICES. There are a lot fewer of those with a family income of $40k.
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Well said Dee. I’m sorry but if a family on $100k + a year is struggling to survive, lifestyle CHOICES need to be looked at.
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Please get your facts straight. $111K for a family with 2 kids, $121 for a family with 3. The $160k that is bandied about is only for the Child Care Rebate not FTB A. $111k in Sydney for 4 people is not a lot of money esp with mortgages, risiing electricity, water and council rates. Just saying….if you only earn $40k in Sydney I really feel for you and thank goodness you get FTB A & B and a tax cut and low income rebates.
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Get it, don’t get it, we should all be just grateful we don’t live in a country where they can rip your baby out of you and kill it.
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Didn’t get it because I don’t qualify and that is fine with me. BUT as a teacher in the government system who sees how many parents don’t pay their school fees or even make a contribution or arrange a payment plan, I wish the money was paid to the schools and then the balance given to the parents. We really do use that money to purchase resources to educate our students and it makes such a big difference.
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As a teacher – and a parent – I would rather be reimbursed for what I spend.
The bulk of my ETB has gone on internet security and wireless connection at home – and over 12 months that has cost $1400 alone – more than the ETB I received but necessary as my sons’ homework depends on high speed internet connection.
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Hi,
I’m not trying to be snarky but if you are paying over $1400 for a year of wireless internet and internet security (i assume you mean McAffee or something similar?) you are paying way too much. I am on Optus’s highest naked dsl plan which is $960 (and you can save more if you have your internet with your mobile phone company or go with a cheaper company like TPG)
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Sigh. I knew someone would offer up a cheaper version of what I have.
My monthly downloads are 200gb, it’s wireless, it also includes 2 mobile phone accounts and a landline with free local and STD calls.
Guess I should have spelt that out earlier.
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why did you delete my comment about not spending it alcohol ,cigarettes and a holiday? I was being sarcastic when I said all welfare recipients are stupid wasteful idiots. obviously, because I am one and I’m sick of hearing about how I’m going to waste any money I receive . So why did you delete my response .
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Hi anon. When we delete a comment that is offensive, the responses (that are often entirely legitimate) are also removed because they no longer make sense out of context. We’re trying to keep the comment sections easy to follow. Hope that makes sense! Jamila
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What a lot of angry little Australians….as I sit back reading your opinions. I suppose you have to vent. By the way not getting any govt money…
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Hahahaha…I spent 20 minutes on the phone to head office today at work insisting they’d overpaid me $818 and demanding they take it back so I don’t have to pay it later. Thanks for clarifying MM- might send this article to the poor HR lady who now thinks I’m mad:(
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Oh no! That’s hilarious. Glad we could help.
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Interestingly, my son is in Year 7 but I got the secondary school rate. I’m assuming that is because private schools now start secondary in Year 7 but my son goes to public school and therefore is still primary school aged (he is on camp this week though so it will certainly help pay back that debt to my credit card).
To everyone complaining, I get it. But payments like this should be treated like any payment you haven’t logged personal work hours for- don’t rely on it but be grateful for the bonus if you get it (i.e. child support springs to mind!). Otherwise you allow yourself the opportunity to be disappointed.
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In most cases primary school is from prep to year 6, then high school is year 7 to 12. Public and private. At least in Vic it is.
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Yep – in most states high school starts in year 7.
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Oh whingers – All this moaning about how you all miss out – FTB Part A is for those in genuine need. I am raising two sons on one income under $40,000 a year. Try that.
I’ve claimed this ETR for the last two years, kept all my receipts and it was no drama. I do my own tax, so no one actually saw the receipts, but they’re all there, as are this years.
I’ve spent a fortune on education expenses and am grateful to get it back so thanks Labor for making my six hour tax refund calculations just that bit easier.
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Agree Agree Agree Kathy!
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To all those whingers who missed out: One way or another you are luckier than the majority of families ie lucky to have a well paid job – plenty of people work hard but don’t get paid well, childcare workers etc, lucky to have been born into a family that had values conducive to hard work and education, lucky to be genetically smart enough to get a well paid job or lucky perhaps to have married / partnered someone who earns a good wage. I don’t know the reason but I can assure you that luck would have played some part in your privileged position – as indeed it has mine. Criticise the ETR and similar handouts all you want as they are little more than election bribes and the money would have been much better spent improving essential services – however QUIT telling us how hard done by you are because you’re not!
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couldn’t. of said it better myself. Just because you don’t receive something doesn’t make it ok to completely vilify someone just because they do.
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What a Joke! By making the carers keep receipts at least it was known that the money was used towards school based items, but no that was too hard so lets just give you cash and don’t worry about the receipts just go and spend it on whatever you want!!!!! this whole benefit is a joke I can assure you that most of kids at the school my daughters go to are not walking around in new shoes and do not have new uniforms so I wonder where the money went?
can not wait until the next election to vote this government out!
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no money for us. again.
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Sydney moaners, take a lower paid wage with a tree change – come to a town like mine, Albury, where good infrastucture and employment opportunities exist and house prices are low. Perhaps you’ll even get government assistance to go with your paycut – with the low mortgage and reduced commute you shoul retain plenty of spending money – stop clogging up Sydney if the payoff is not worth it! Choices are indeed yours, you are privileged, to be sure.
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I foster 5 children and I will get NONE of this funding! Why? Because I don’t get Tax A. Fair enough? NO! Highlight the word FOSTER! This money is to help relieve the costs of raising a child, school costs and more. Other carers will get it but not those not receiving tax A, a put off for middle class or above to foster.
Sceptics tell me that the department for child protection (DCP) should pay all costs. Ever tried draining blood from a stone? Or if so then other carers shouldn’t get any of the money either. (ALL carers should receive the funding regardless of personal income). I’m already raising 3 children of our own biological link, to which we receive no funding for, that’s cool, I accept that.
It’s discrimination and it infuriates me. All our money goes into an oversized house, an oversized vehicle and an oversized food budget. Not forgetting the huge power and water bills. Of which the measly volunteer subsidy only just scrapes the surface of.
If children are on a health care card! all foster children are. Then the funding should be able to be applied for by whoever is caring for that child.
OK rant over. For all those getting the funding I’m pleased for you….. I really am.
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I would like to thank you for being a foster parent. Can’t imagine doing what you do. All expenses for those kids should be covered.
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I think funding should go to whoever is primary carer providing they are receiving ftba. However foster families should be no different, if you can’t afford them, then don’t have them. Too many families foster too many children for money. I have seen this a lot in my line of work.
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Would you like a balance sheet to see how much real, true, foster carers spend compared to how much they get in basic subsidy payments?
Talk to some REAL carers and get a real perspective before you make such comments.
There are many, many children NEEDING warm, loving, caring homes… statements like you make are absurd.
You are suggesting only the Rich should foster, because only they could afford them. Would you like foster care income tested too then? Perhaps we should just open institutions for them, like the old days!
The funding is for payment of the child’s educational needs and the children are state wards! The State is their guardian, therefore responsible for payment of such but they side swipe it onto unsuspecting carers who are already giving so much.
There are not enough foster carers as it is, another topic all together and comments like yours just make my blood boil.
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I would rather you paid school fees in public school, at my child’s school a third of families have ‘chosen not to pay’ and so the head tells us programmes will be cut as it leaves the school $23000 short, super fair when my family paid our fees!
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Perhaps a better way to distribute the funding would have been to send it direct to the school the child attends instead of into the account of the parents! Here in WA, you get a volunteer charges form from the school that should have volunteer scrubbed out because you are harassed until you pay!
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When does the money come in since it is already pass mid June.
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it starts today , so whenever you get your next payment it should be there.
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I just can’t understand why parents of preschool 4 year olds do not receive it. It will cost me $1200 to send my child to 4 yr old kinder for 15hours next year, which is compulsory, approx 4 x the fees at the local state primary school.
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Do you get a child care subsidy or rebate instead?
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Children who attend preschool, as opposed to childcare, do not qualify for any rebate. Thats why parents get frustrated.
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Once again the Robin Hood government is in full force. No incentive for those who earn high incomes to earn more. Why? It just gets taken away and given to others who will *hopefully* do the right thing with it. I would be much more supportive if the payment was made direct to a uniform shop, in the form of Officeworks (for eg.) vouchers, paid in grocery vouchers etc. Why can’t welfare be paid in a tangible way – not just lumped in a bank account where it can be spent on alcohol, cigarettes or a holiday?
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I totally agree. A child should have a formal account at a school and the funding could have been credited to that account, to cover uniform shop, stationary and school fees. Then schools wouldn’t still be wondering where the money is in a few months!
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Yes raising kids is expensive, I don’t think it’s fair to hit on someone though because they expressed their feelings. We are one income and I hardly see my partner, he works long hours. Not getting Tax A does not make you automatically wealthy, that’s a myth. You also get slogged with the highest tax, all the highest charges and very little to no relief anywhere.
You have valid comments, so do others.
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Dont be so ridiculous, Jenna’s comment is fair. Higher income earners usually pay through the nose for everything that lower income earners dont. Private health insurance is essential or they are taxed massively for it . And then to use that private health insurance they have to pay a fortune to use a doctor when lower income earners can turn up as a public patient and have the same treatment for free.
When you see some kids from low income families whose parents arent spending this money on their school supplies it does make you angry and that money should go straight to the school to cover their fees and uniforms.
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I think the incentive for people to earn a high income is the fact that they are receiving a high income…
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But isn’t the money this year replacing the education tax refund? The money for school expenses has already been spent , most likely at the beginning of this school year. It is simply the ETR via Centrelink rather than via the tax department.
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Dunno about you Jenna but the incentive for me to earn my high income is the… uh… high income.
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I wonder when the Government will throw some money my way for my life choices because golly it can be expensive choosing to work hard, earn money and go on lovely holidays.
YOU chose to have children, so YOU should fund them. Can’t afford em, don’t breed em.
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and when you decide to retire anon who will be paying taxes to support the country and doing the jobs needed? it might be a choice but we do actually need children to sustain Australia.
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I understand we need children to sustain Australia but only have as many as YOU can afford to support without ANY assistance from the Government.
My statement still stands – if YOU can’t afford them, don’t breed them. It’s not up to the Government to fund YOUR lifestyle choices eg how many children you WANT to have, rather than how many you can actually AFFORD to have.
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I don’t think their would be many people having children just so they could get the miserly handouts from the government anon but if a family is struggling then I say yes please use my taxes to help them.
What about families who fall on financial hardship and have children, should they ditch some of the kids because they can no longer afford them?
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Wow! What a very uneducated statement. No more needs to be said.
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I think your response anonymous is very naive .
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Anon, you sound like a bitter &@$@#
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I have four children and a husband on $97,000 and yes we get family payments for all of them and yes we get the school bonus and why shouldn’t we?my husband pays enough tax and works hard(his just worked 14 days straight) and we have all our receipts for what we have spent on school expenses.In fact I have probaly spent more than what I will receive.We have been at rock bottom two years ago when my husband had a stroke we went from two incomes to sickness benefits.For 12 months we struggled and I can tell you this allowance would have really helped back them.So you should not judge others that you know nothing about things happen in life at times we cannot control.
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remember some family’s live on only one income. I think singles are doing ok as they don’t have other people to feed and house. 110000 for a single income family gets taxed a lot more then a single on $55000.
So I reckon singles are doing ok really.
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I had a baby at 19, not planned, with my long term partner, whom abandoned me after 6 months of pregnancy, forcing me to leave my dream job & move back in with parents. We wouldnt have survived without government assistance. Although I am extremely grateful for the little I have, I feel I will never get ahead as a single parent. What I’m saying is, i wouldve never had a child without being financially stable but unfortunately shit happens!!! So don’t think all us welfare receiving parents are breeding for handouts.. i would just be happy to save a deposit for a house, but saving for groceries is bloody hard enough! Sometimes people get put into situations they just gotta deal with & i say Thank f*#k for some assistance!
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This money was always available via submission of receipts (not sure to ATO or which government department) for school related expenses. However not many bothered or knew about it. I have two at school and I wasn’t aware of the rebates.
Juliar Gilltard and cohorts, in their infinite wisdom, just decided to give the money away, no strings attached, rather then advertise/advise elligible recipients.
Wonder how many new flat-screen TV’s will be bought instead?
The silence is defeaning for this question. I Remember the screeching loony-lefties asking the same question when Costello introduced the non-means tested Baby Bonus……
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It’s called welfare for a reason. If you aren’t eligible, pretty good chance then that you don’t need it.
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That’s bollocks. There are plenty of people who fall into that lovely grey area where they earn too much for assistance but yet not enough to be even slightly comfortable – the welfare system in this country is well past needing an overhaul.
There are people who receive benefits of various forms who earn more money from the Government than we do and yet we both work full time, have a below average mortgage, don’t have fancy cars etc
We would be better off, me quitting, the other half going part time and then our income would actually go UP because of benefits we’d receive – seriously where is the incentive to work?
There are plenty of people who benefits would greatly assist and there are people out there who are just simply getting too many/too much benefit and in doing so have no encouragement to go out and earn their money, I mean why would you when you could just work less and collect more from good ole Julia?
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I’m sorry but you should think yourself lucky that you are employed and earning enough that you arent eligible for ‘welfare’. My husband and I are both university educated, have well paying jobs but also big mortgage and not a lot of left over money each week due to the costs of living etc. Do i begrudge people earning less than us receiving assistance? Hell no! I feel privileged to live in a country where we have a social safety net. I am not entitled to this payment and that is fine. It doesn’t mean that i am rich or wasting my time working, just that it’s welfare that I’m not in need of. There are obviously people more needy than me and I’m glad to help them.
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Where is the incentive to work? How about civic responsibility? How about for the sense of contribution? How about because, at the end of the week, you can sit down on a Friday night and enjoy the next two days off because you have achieved something, you deserve them.
And ‘slightly comfortable’ is relative. I can assure you that ‘slightly comfortable’ in Australia is up there with ‘slightly comfortable’ anywhere else in the world. We have free secondary health care and highly subsidised primary health care, we have free libraries and free cultural events, we have parks (free) and municipal pools (affordable), we have mostly well maintained roads, we have mostly affordable education, we have infrastructure which provides us with electricity and water and sewerage. To live with a roof above your head, where you can afford three meals a day, where you can afford clothes and medicines and to educate your children – that is much more than ‘slightly comfortable’ in a majority of countries around the world.
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didn’t you know, we’ll all be buying new flat screen TV’s. change the record, please!
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Oh Puuhlease, new flat screen telly’s? Is that best you’ve got? That statement is so Alan Jones circa 2009, every man and their dog has a flat screen these days, you can get them at Aldi for $199. The new thing would be Ipad’s, sheeesh get with the times
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OK then… substitute in any item you want. An i-Pad, digital radio… call it a pineapple if you want! Whatever floats your goat.
The point is still the same.
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As a full time uni student who happens to have a partner who owns a house, I get nothing. Most of her wage is spent on the house, not on funding my lifestyle!! Uni is just as expensive as primary and high school, $500 in books per semester, 3 weeks per semester that I can’t work and don’t get paid (prac), food, living, car.. and I’ve needed to replace my laptop. I’m not saying that parents shouldn’t get this payment, but it should be extended to more people (full time students or apprentices).
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Oh please. You choose to go to uni and you could get a part time job if need be. You have a partner with an income and buying a house. You think you should get assistance for choosing further education as an adult? Do as anyone else who wants to further themselves and do some paid work during the numerous uni holiday periods.
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You seem to think that you are entitled to hand outs? Wow ! You are really going to contribute to the world thinking that everyone owes you. Next time you go to hospital remember all those highly qualified nurses and docs decided to go to uni to help you.
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Some degrees, especially for people who’s future jobs will greatly benefit tax payers (public doctors, nurses, teachers etc) require prac or study hours that make having a job practically impossible. More support needs to be in place for those completing degrees to fill public service positions like these (providing they complete a set amount of service in the public sector upon completion).
Those who ‘choose’ to go to uni often do so in the hope of having a career that will pay a higher wage which in turn means they contribute more tax to fund these benefits
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Seriously?
I AM a nurse.. working part-time is imperative for most adults studying.. especially those who don’t have a partner with a wage coming in. Feeling sorry for someone who who has a wage earning partner and chooses.. yes, chooses to study (regardless of the post-graduate wage… and believe me, nursing isn’t paid anywhere near the ‘higher wage’ you seem to think!) is simply NOT going to occur.
Working whilst studying fulltime is damn hard… about time some people got used to it.. (hard work, that is!)
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The higher wage I was referring to was not about nurses or teachers but uni-based careers in general.
I did not study any of the above degrees, I just feel we should provide assistance to those who need it when they are trying to enter the essential public service industries like health and education as opposed to other benefits I don’t necessarily agree with
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I have part time jobs; I help a boy with Asperger’s in the afternoons, I tutor and I’m a teacher aide. But, it doesn’t help when I have a 3 week prac and no money. Having children is also a choice. I didn’t ‘go to uni as an adult’ either… I took only one gap year! It’s still a struggle! You clearly are ignorant.
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You are an adult….
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You could always study part time and work part time if it’s really that hard….
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Bec does have part-time jobs but by the sounds of things, she’s studying education. Unfortunately, many universities (such as mine) do not allow you to study education part-time, it is only offered as a full-time course load.
Prac teaching means that for three weeks per semester, you’re unable to work part-time as you’re at the school full-time, as an unpaid teacher.
As many people have pointed out, it’s a choice to go to university, but at the same time, very little is being done to encourage it. Declining university enrolments means that we face a future of importing skilled personnel from overseas because there are not enough degree-qualified Australians to fill the positions we have.
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I couldn’t agree more. full time students and apprentices should receive it too.
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Guess that explains why I work 38 hours in 4 days, have negotiated a day off per week to do my 3 law subjects per semester and have an ever growing HECS debt, massive costs per semester….I do this because I want to further myself. Not anyone else – not the government and not the community. I have made this choice for my family and don’t expect anyone to hand anything to me to achieve it. Think it’s time you got yourself a part-time job like the majority of uni students trying to keep their head above the water. I don’t always agree with payments being made, but if people can use it and its make their life easier, then good for them. Hopefully one day they’re back out earning money from a decent paying job, paying taxes and giving back what the system gave them.
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Why don’t you get a part time job?
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This is in reply to the people who are complaining that they missed out on all the previous payments, baby bonus, 1st home buyer etc….
Whilst we were not eligable for the first home buyers due to certain reason(s)
and our eledst is too old for the baby bonus I do believe the cost of housing, schooling (even at public) and general living expenses have increased dramatically over the last 10 years or so. Yes, its inflation i get that but housing prices as an example are rediculous, as is day care costs. with out the 50% rebate I simply could not afford to work and the baby bonus I recieved for our youngest was used instead of a maternity allowance (before said scheme was introduced) to help us in the months i was not working. Yes alot of these payments i probably wouldn’t miss if i was not aware of them but some people desperately need them. as kids get older the expenses seem to increase dramatically along with their ever growing bodies requiring new clothes and shoes regularly.
I do believe that it should be a tax refund as you can claim what you have purchased and those who need it most will be the more likely to claim. I am definately looking forward to claimimg 50% of my kids uniforms for this last 12 months. The only reason why i don’t believe in these payments up front is because of my mothers line of work with DOCS and I see how (a minority but enough of) these sorts of and other similar payments are abused and not spent in the childrens best interests.
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Yes, housing was extremely affordable when mortgage interest rates hit 17%….
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I recall reading somewhere that since the 80s average incomes have increased by about 3.5 times.
Whilst housing prices have increased by about 6 times.
All things being equal, people paying off houses now are far worse off.
I believe, however, that if you take the higher mortgage interest rates into account, cost vs income was roughly about the same then as they are now (relatively speaking, in terms of mortgage repayments).
Rates were only that high for a few years though… generally speaking, the cost of living is much higher now than then.
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I believe todays payment is instead of the refund in your tax return for financial year 2011/2012.
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Catherine C, that is correct. It doesn’t matter if you have kept your receipts for the last year because the payment was in advance and lieu of the tax rebate that was previously claimable.
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We get zip. Congratulations to each govt who screws the middle class into the ground
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Why not just be happy your are middle class and 800 bucks isn’t that much when your on a decent wage.
Be happy your rich enough to not get a government hand out. I know I am
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you must be doing it tough being middle class and all, why shouldn’t the government give middle class people money??? ummm because they don’t need it probably but hey have a moan anyway and when you’re finished bounce on over to the first world whinge article written yesterday and write the same comment on there.
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You know what… I agree with Cilla.
The middle class for lack of a better word, do ‘get it tough’. My husband and I get nothing. Ever. We both work full time and have no money for frivolous expenses. I would say we would be classified as low middle class.
Every fortnight 70% of our combined income goes to our mortgage. And before some people start saying we could get a smaller house or different area or rent even, we live in a brick house. 2 bedroom. 2 bathroom. No backyard. In one of the cheap housing estates springing up all over the place. And the only reason we could afford this is because I bought it 9 years ago with a loan deposit from my mother. The rest of our income is bills and food.
And today, I get a bill from Melbourne Water to say rates will be increasing 6.8% next cycle. This is in addition to the bill I received last month for the energy company reminding me of their increases. Do you know what I did then… I cried. Over a fucking bill. Because I have no idea how we can afford our pathetic little home, in a crowded estate, 1 1/2 hours away from the city – where my husband travels 2 1/2 hours ever day to get to his job, because that’s all that we can afford.
I am sick to death of paying taxes – for what? So the middle class can get nothing again? I would be better off not working in this society – how pathetic is that!
First world problem – yes. But there is seriously something wrong with how this first world government looks after all its people in a ‘classless society’
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Welcome to Juliar Dullards grand vision for Australia
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Oh, I see what you did there! You added an extra letter into the PM’s first name (now that is original and hasn’t ever been done before!) and changed a couple of letters in her surname to…well, I can’t quite figure out what you were trying to do there. Suggest that she is dull?
I’m sorry if this appears a bit rude but seriously…what point are you trying to make? That you don’t like Julia Gillard? I’m not her biggest fan either (and I don’t vote Labor) but how does this add to the debate, really?
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Sorry Anon you are absolutley right..it was typo… I meant to write
Jooliar Dilltard
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we lined up with friends who do qualify for tax A, did the calculations and we ended up worse off than the couple earning less and getting more. They also worked less hours!
#go figure!
Wish people would quit assuming middle class is rich!
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Martini I am sorry you are doing it tough, I truly am.
I am the same and bills keep coming in.
I have 3 children and I can tell you now that bonus is not going to go far but yes it will help.
We have stopped using our heating so much and we are trying to cut back on groceries but its hard.
I don’t think we can blame Julia Gillard for this, its not just Australia where people are struggling its a global recession and times are pretty tough everywhere.
Australia in the grand scheme of things is doing better than most countries and I don’t really know of any other countries that give handouts at all.
Please don’t think I am saying your problems aren’t bad or you aren’t struggling but I do think we should all have a little perspective.
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I absolutely agree that the Gillard gov’t isn’t solely to blame. It would happen with the Liberals too! And that we are extremely fortunate to live in Australia and that many countries do not have welfare such as ours. I cannot argue with these points. And yes $800odd isn’t that big a deal in the scheme of things, but it would help us out immensely.
My point isn’t about this particular handout as such – as I imagine most other commenters are frustrated with too – it is the systematic exclusion of help from the gov’t towards the so-called middle class… And to show support for the other oft-neglected group – the single, no children tax paying citizens of this country.
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What sort of handouts would the middle class be happy with (genuine question?)
Martini if you decide to have children I am sure you would be more than happy when you do get some of the handouts. I honestly never thought to moan about not receiving anything before I did when I was working full time and only had myself to support. I am surprised when I read comments from people who do. (not having a go just replying to your comment)
Honestly I do think you sound like things are tough but can you imagine being in your situation and on top of it having children to support?
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If they gave out all these subsidies to middle class wage earners who do you think would be paying for them? tax payers so no point taking money from rich people just to hand it back.
I am more interested in why the pensioners I visit never have any heating on because they can’t afford it.
Much rather they gave the pensioners $800 dollars to help with big electric bills.
try living on less then $20000 a year before you start whining.
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So rent then, like the rest of us.
What i wouldn’t give to be struggling to pay a mortgage – on a house that I would one day own – an asset. But no, down the track, when your house is paid off and your taxpayer funded age pension is all disposable income for you, I will still be paying rent.
I am a single parent with two children with disabilities and an ex who lives overseas and pays nothing towards his children’s (extensive) needs.
Quit whinging. I work part-time when I can. I get Carer payment (and 50c out of every dollar I ear gets taken out of my payment) but I’m NOT complaining.
I live in country where my kids go to school everyday, the uniform shop only charges $2 for the sadder used uniforms. We all get great clothes at the op shops. I even ordered take away pizza to enjoy with friends last night.
If you can’t pay your bills, then you need a close look at your budget. Don’t buy juice, drink water. Cut back on meat, it’s not good for you anyway. Buy whole foods, furniture from deceased estates, and stop drinking booze. Take up walking.
It can be done. I won’t ever own a home, but I live a good life, and I am grateful to the taxpayers who support me. I hope to repay them when my kids are old enough.
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The middle class dont get handouts plus have to pay more for everything. No subsidised housing, Drs, public transport, utilities bills, movie tickets, medicine, car rego, school fees ( to name a few) for us. So yeah we middle class earn more money but we have to spend more too! Ends up being no better off if you ask me
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I don’t think the education hand out is means tested is it? if you have children you would get it wouldn’t you regardless of your income? That is what this is about, an education benefit not about hand outs for poor people vs middle class or am I reading it wrong?
….ok just read through some of the above comments and yes it is means tested because you can only get it if you get family tax benefit A. My husband and I work and earn a pretty decent amount and still receive it so you must be on quite a lot if you don’t so I don’t know why you would be moaning right now. Yes you have bills but imagine trying to pay them on less than half what you make.
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You need to be eligible for family tax benefit part a I believe. We have kids and haven’t gotten anything for years with the notable exception of child care rebate and the stimulus package.
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- Subsidised housing is only for the lowest of income earners
- bulk bill GP’s are available to all Australian citizens
- public transport, car rego, utilities & movie ticket concessions are available for ALL full time students (including your children) and elderly people regardless of their income
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Ha! Come live in my rural town and try telling me -
‘bulk bill GP’s are available to all Australian citizens’
No way no how.
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You don’t think you have subsidised doctors? That’s what Medicare is. It may cost you some but try imagining how much it would cost without – perhaps looks to the US system for a hint.
You get subsidised medicines which cost this country a fortune but which make it much more affordable when you are sick.
Your schools are heavily subsidised by the state as well. Imagine how much the school fees would be if it wasn’t. I just did some calculations based on the salary figures for teachers in Queensland. I’ve used the lowest salary point for a full time teacher ($55 909), 20% of a teachers aide ($7 658) and 10% of a school principal ($10 832) and included 14.5 % super in these calculations. Basically, the cost of teaching (assuming that there is a teacher’s aide only 1 day per week and a principal which dedicates only 10% of their resource) works out at $2 479 per child in a class of 30. This does not include materials, administrative staff within the department of education, school infrastructure, school maintenance…nothing apart from salary + super costs. I’d say the fees that people pay for public schools are being significantly subsidised by the tax payer.
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Genuine question for the MM team.
Is there some sort of media rules for political stories etc?
Not trying to stir, just noticed a few comments below and wondered what the rules are for posts like this that could be taken as political campaigning,
also are we going to see more of this given Jamilia background and previous job?
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Hi Jackson,
Good question! There aren’t media rules for political stories. The only time it becomes relevant is if it’s paid advertising – which this is not. Or during an election campaign.
Any paid post is always declared – we don’t have to do that but we believe transparency is paramount.
As far as posts written by politicians, the fact they are politicians means by definition they have a particular viewpoint and are going to promote their own policies – whether in government or opposition.
We are always open to politicians and public figures who want to engage with the Mamamia audience and write for us.
The current federal government clearly shares our belief that they’re not just elected to represent the people who watch 7:30 or 4Corners. They’re also representing Mamamia readers and I believe it’s absolutely appropriate for them to come here and communicate with us.
So far, the Opposition appears less interested in engaging here which is a shame. The post Tony Abbott wrote for us some months back about carbon tax: http://www.mamamia.com.au/news/tony-abbott-on-mamamia-carbon-tax-is-not-the-right-answer/
and the Q&A post were both personally instigated by me.
I wish we’d have more posts submitted and more interaction suggested by the Coalition but that’s up to them.
As for Jamilla, so far we haven’t used any of her political contacts!
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Thanks for posting this response Mia. I am surprised the coalition hasn’t utilised MM to spruik their maternity leave policy, which I think would be of interest to lots of readers! Dissapointing that they don’t respond to your requests for articles.
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I know Missy! Me too.
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I have a question that I cannot seem to find an aswer for – we choose not receive our FTB throughout the year as my husband works full time and I work on a commission basis, which is really unpredictable. After we complete our tax returns, we fill in a form at Medicare and send it in and then receive a lump sum based on our earnings – last year this was substantial. What I want to know is this – will all of these entitlements be automatically included in that lump sum payment? This is the first year we have had a school-age child and so I’m not sure how it works. Surely there must be some other people out there who are in a similar situation?
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It says here: http://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/information/schoolkids-bonus
that if you claim FTB part A as a lump sum that the SchoolKids bonus will be paid when your lump sum is paid.
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We get or ftb at the eofy too, We do get these random payments at the normal time tho, we got this payment today
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There are two types of EOFY paid customers.
1. Those that are “current” on FTB but choose a “zero rate” each fortnight. While these customers get FTB at the EOFY, they are theoretically fortnightly instalment customers and will be paid this bonus as such.
2. Customers who have to physically claim FTB each year – “lump sum claim” customers. Ala Kel who claims at Medicare. These customers are not “current” and will be paid when their lump sum claim is paid.
If you are not “current” you can claim now and if you are entitled and back paid to the eligibility date, your bonus would be paid when your FTB is back paid. However with the f/year nearly over, a lump sum claim would probably be the best option if you lodge your tax returns in a timely manner.
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I’d love it if the government could take $818 off my HECS/HELP debt…
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Just FYI if you really are struggling, with or without pocket money from Jenny and Wayne, most schools have an ‘equity fund’ or whatever name it goes by at your particular school. This fund is accessed at the principal’s discretion to help families who otherwise wouldn’t be able to afford the cost of camps and excursions. If you are someone who is genuinely in need, go in and have a chat with the principal and you might be able to get part or all of these costs covered. Also, some schools will offer payment plans for high-cost things like camps. If your kids’ school doesn’t, have a chat with the class teacher who can tee it up with the school’s business manager.
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