by EMMA MACGILLIVRAY
I am a female, 30 years old, with a loving husband and a 9 month old son living in Sydney. I like meeting people and socialising. I don’t have a criminal history and I like animals. Most say I am a nice person. My husband gets along with everyone and son is quite adorable. Who wants to be friends with me? Anyone? Hellooooooo?
My New Year’s resolution was to say “Yes” to everything. No, not because I found inspiration in the not-so-hilarious Jim Carey film ‘The Yes Man’ but because at the beginning of the year my husband, my 3 month old son and I relocated from Melbourne to Sydney.
My resolution was in effort to make some new friends. I was terrified of the thought of leaving my nearest and dearest in Melbourne but I knew that I would give it my best shot in the hope of making a new batch of lovely buddies –albeit in between the nappies, feeds and naps.
So far, I think I have said “yes” to everything. Every coffee date, every playgroup, every mothers group and every dinner with other couples with children. My new Sydney mother’s group failed miserably and was rather embarrassing (my son James and I were the only ones that showed up) and the coffee dates have been ‘blind dates’ where both parties have come away thinking “Oh that was nice but we have NOTHING in common”.
Thus far I have a made a total of two Sydney friends that I love dearly and we cherish our weekly catch ups aptly named ‘wine time’ (pronounced woine toime) but the three of us need more. We all need to meet new people. Funnily enough, we’re all from Melbourne. It’s strange how that happens. I think it’s because we had more in common than just babies.
As every mother does at some point, I had a low moment a few weeks ago. James had croup, it hadn’t stopped raining for 2 weeks and our beloved pet died. I needed to do something before I sunk into that dark hole that every new mother hears about and fears.
So, I started something that is very out of character for me…a YouTube blog called Consumer Mum. I talk about my latest baby and beauty product finds. A good product has me pulling out the savings card before you can say “Sucked in”. It is a great hobby and I love sharing my finds (but please don’t be overwhelmed by my tens of hits – fame hasn’t gone to my head yet). However after psychoanalysing myself, I realised that I started it purely for someone to talk to. I know that the person wasn’t opposite me sipping on a cup of tea at my dining room table but I thought that the other mum on the other end of the interwebs was hopefully finding me to be their digital buddy too.
I think there needs to be something other than a system where a group of 10 or so women are thrown into a room with NOTHING in common than a baby that is around the same age and a bout of mastitis. Don’t get me wrong, I found the one session of my first mother’s group in Melbourne that I did actually attend to be very helpful and insightful but needless to say I knew from the get go that the other very lovely ladies and I weren’t going to be attending our children’s weddings together in 25 years time.
I think there needs to be a forum for mums to meet other mums with similar interests and have MORE in common than just their baby or child. We do everything to get our children interacting with other little people. Playgroups, crèche, activities…but what about us? Being a mum is rather lonely but no one tells you that. It feels particularly lonely when you’ve gone from being a full time professional and as soon as your little bundle of joy arrives in the world you are transported back into the 1950’s and you’re looking for your identity in the washing machine. I feel like I’m Samantha in Bewitched. If only I could wiggle my nose and POOF, I have a friend.
Sadly, I know I’m not the only one that feels this way.
I think of my Mum who was in a very similar situation when she had my brother and I in the early eighties. My Dad’s job meant that they lived in all kinds of crazy places when we were very young and back then they didn’t have iPhones, Internet, Facebook or Skype for god’s sake! I don’t know how she did it but all I know is, we now live in a digital age so why is it so freaking hard to make friends as a mum?
I think there needs to be a RSVP for mums but without the weirdos. Australia’s Biggest Morning Tea but with wine and good fun. Think of a place for Mums everywhere to meet, socialise and make FRIENDS. Friends in the true sense of the word – not just another woman that has a baby the same age. I don’t know what this is but I’m on a mission to create this imaginary, delightful world.
Am I the only one or are there thousands of other women out there just like me looking for a friend? If so, I’ll be your BF 4 EVS.
P.S. just so you know, the highlight of my day was filling up the car with petrol and having a hearty 30 second laugh when my son spat out a leaf (I have no idea where he got it from). Shit, I need some friends.
Emma MacGillivray is a Sydney based mum, wife, blogger, marketer and product junkie. You can find her Twitter here and her blog here.
Have you ever moved to a new city and found it hard to meet new people? Are you still friends with the people you’ve known since school or have you made new friends as you’ve gotten older?







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335 Comments so far
The timing of this is spectacular! I have just come out of a relationship and while I don’t have kids I am really keen to meet new people. I have few really good friends but they don’t live close by so I have been feeling the loneliness. I want to find my tribe. I have realised how damn hard it can be to work out where to start with meeting new people, and I’m only 26! It’s helpful to know this seems to be a common problem. Best of luck everyone!
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I feel you, H. I am desperately worried that if my relationship breaks up (which I don’t see happening, but nobody can predict the future) I will be really lonely too. I know what you say about wanting to “find your tribe”, that’s exactly how I feel. I have a stepfamily but DAMN I want some really good girlfriends who know all my secrets and we can call each other at any time for any reason. I haven’t had that since my early 20s and I miss it so much.
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Do it. Find your tribe! While I am sure your relationship is great I did not see it coming at all. Everyone was shocked that he left. If I could change one thing it would be to make sure I had more friends close by. I always knew in the back of my mind I would be screwed if he left. I know it’s hard to make new friends but your relationship might be healthier too for it
Mine would have been.
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Hey Emma you sound like a great girl! I know what it’s like to move somewhere and not know anyone, I’ve met some pretty nice people at work but we don’t really get together outside of work. I’m shy by nature but do love a good conversation, I just feel like the older you get the harder it is to come by friends.
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Hey this is amazing.. I always think about this topic. I am about to have.my 1st baby and feel i would love to meet other moms and friends ie..men for my husband. We live south side of Brisbane….any takers …i love wine.vodka….cheese and the beach life
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Hi Jen, I am keen – I was thinking anyone in Brisbane who is keen to catch up could contact me – we could all get together for a big afternoon tea/cheeky afternoon drink.
Brisbane ladies? Keen?
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Hi Helen
Sounds great. Am in Brisbane with a 3 and 5 year old. Am sure there will be lots of us out there wanting to meet new friends.
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I’m keen, live Brisbane south side. Have a two and four year old would love to meet other mums but also really keen to meet women without kids too!
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Send me your emails ladies so we can sort something out – I think we will have about 8 of us, yahoo! helenmaclean@y7mail.com
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Add me please! I’ve sent you an email Helen but with little personal detail.
So here it is. I’m a happily married 38yo SAHM with an almost 4 year old. I’d love to make some more friends on my side of town (north-west of city). The friends I have are scattered & it gets harder to stay in close contact especially when your kids don’t always gel.
I like art, reading, food, love cups of tea & picnics in the sunshine. I’m into the occasional glass of wine & am rediscovering music after being in mum-mode for too long.
Look forward to hearing the details & meeting some new people!
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Hi Helen
I think there might be enough interest here for a BV outing. I’m keen too!
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Yep, me too. Please post a link here if you organise something !
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Hi Susie & Rosie, first group email is going out tomorrow so please flick me an email if you want me to pop you on. And sorry to all the other readers who are suffering through my millions of reply’s – there were so many threads I’m trying not to miss anyone!
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Hi! I’m in Brisbane with a 4 year old and would be interested in meeting up too!
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Hi ya. Putting my hand up too.
Mum of 3 – 3yr old, 1 yr old and 4 months. Stay at home Mum on Bris southside. Enjoying this wonderful life, but would love to meet other like minded folk.
A few of my favourite sayings, which sum me up at the moment:
“The days are long, but the years are short”
“I love to cook with wine, sometimes I even add it to the food”
Let’s meet up!
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Hi Claire & Lolly, I am sending out the first group email tomorrow. Feel free to send me an email so I can include you!
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Hey this is amazing.. I always think about this topic. I am about to have.my 1st baby and feel i would love to meet other moms and friends ie..men for my husband. We live south side of Brisbane….any takers …i love wine.vodka….cheese and the beach life
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It can take time, but from my own experience it becomes easier to make good friends when you have children – more opportunity to meet new people as you take your kids places.
I moved from the country to Sydney when I left school and socialised with people from work and (after we met) my husband’s friends. After our kids were born I socialised with people from our mother’s group and playgroup, but I look back on these now as aquaintances. The friends I now cherish (and don’t know how I could live without), I met when my daughter started school – chatting to other parents at birthday parties, canteen, fete stalls, P&C meetings, swimming lessons, tennis comp, the gym (etc etc etc) helps you to find like-minded people.
Bottom line – get involved in community activities, keep saying yes and be patient – good luck
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There’s a company called Be My Wingman that hold events in both Melbourne & Sydney and it’s a non threatening night where you go and meet other girls who are looking for new friendships – http://www.bemywingman.com.au/
It’s definitely worth a go I think.
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I’ll also add that a good way to meet people is through social sport. I have met some cool people (girls & guys) through playing mixed netball and touch footy.
Maybe even enrol in some adult education? At least you know that you have a least something in common with the other participants of the classes? http://www.cae.edu.au/web/
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That’s a great site! I have a few friends but only one of them is single and has no children. I love my ‘loved up’ friends but meeting up is quite limited due to their family commitments. I could do with some new single friends.
I was reading a story today about how hard it is to make friends after the age of 30. Here’s the link if you’re interested.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/fashion/the-challenge-of-making-friends-as-an-adult.html?_r=2
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exactly the same story here, but geelong vic!
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Geelong can be a tough nut to crack too. However join local community groups, if you have young kids the ABA (Australian Breast Feeding Associations) groups are wonderful, I found it hard at first but have now left behind some friends for life.
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Thanks! I did try one meeting at the community centre…..but no one turned up
. Then about 30 minutes later 1 facilitator and 1 other mum turned up but i think this may have scared me as it took so much nerves to get there in the first place! Alot of the other meetings seem to be at peoples houses but i dont know any of these people. But maybe ishould be brave and try again…..
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Hi Anon from Geelong!
I’m currently on Mat Leave with Baby #1 and living in Barwon Heads. I’m not a Geelong native (moved 2 years ago) and until I hooked up with my Mother’s Group, my only friends were from work.
My Mum’s Group has been awesome though. We catch up weekly and have started doing regular additional things like Rhyme Time at the library. The libraries offer great free kids activities and are a good way to meet other mums. If you want to join us at the Barwon Heads, we’re there every Friday morning at 11:30am, and coffee afterwards! Or we could do a 1:1 coffee in Geelong sometime, if you’d like to?
About me: 34, married with 3 month old son, football fanatic (St Kilda), coffee enthusiast
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ooh, thanks for your reply The Mrs Smith. I might head down the road for a trip to Barwon Heads. My little boy loves Rhyme Time. We have been to Waurn Ponds a bit but a change of scenery is always good! you are a brave woman being a St Kilda supporter in geelong……..
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Thank you so much. I’m a mum of miss 6 and mr 4 and we’ve recently relocated from Melbourne to Hong Kong and I’m really feeling this. Thank you for telling me I’m not alone. I’m really needing this right now.
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I think it is really hard to make friends after a certain age especially when one relocates. I moved to Melbourne from NYC. I grew up in NJ, went to college out-of-state, grad school in NYC and then lived there for 15+ years. 95% of my friends lived within 20 minutes of me – some of them going back to grade school. When I moved to Melb to be with my now husband, I knew no one and needed to start a job search. There were days that other than the coffee barista (sp?), I talked to no one until my husband got home from work. I have a handful of friends but most are “good acquaintances” rather than real friends (1 exception come to mind and I feel fortunate to have this one good [local] friend). I enjoy their company, but they are not the same type of friendships as those with people who are now far away. I think I’ve kind of accepted this – my life is focused on our little family and work – and is pretty busy…but I do miss spending time with women who are like family but chosen by you to part of your life.
I don’t know why it is so hard, but based on the comments here, it seems almost universally so.
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I’ve made a lot of friends as an adult in Sydney (but I have the advantage that I grew up here so have friends from way back). Trying to think where I made most of them – I’d say probably through my netball team, through various jobs and obviously through my boyfriends and other friends. I imagine it’s a lot harder to work/play netball/go to parties when you have a youngun though.
I grew up here and love it and think my friends are awesome and friendly. We have always welcomed new members (new boyfriends/girlfriends/uni mates/housemates etc) into our group(s) and i doubt we’re the exception to the rule!
One of my recent friends just moved to Sydney and she’s made a lot of friends since she moved. Through netball (that’s how I met her), by moving in with a flatmate and meeting all her friends, and by attending every social event she can. She is out every other night and seems to have heaps of friends here!
It’s sad so many people think this is a Sydney problem. Are we really so bad?
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I know exactly how you feel, and I too are looking for a good friend, to laugh, gossip, be silly and just hang out with sometimes. I moved to Sydney in march, I have 2 small children and a hubby. We don’t know anyone here it’s quiet depressing and really hard, as we have no family around so it’s just us .. All the time! I have just started a new job, but even though I’m only 35 I finding it hard to fit in , the younger ones all hang out together outside of work, go clubbing etc, they don’t want a mum hanging out with them, and aren’t interested in hearing about what I did with the kids on the weekend , then there are some older staff members but there families are all grown up, they too don’t want to hang out with young kids. Since moving back to Australia from uk A couple of years ago, I’ve found it so hard to make friends. I’ve been to play groups.. I just get sick of the competition.. Who cares if your kid can repeat the alphabet before mine!! So if someone was to set up an app or website or something I would defiantly be there. If anyone in inner Sydney is interested in getting together for coffee please let me know.
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You’re speaking my language! I’m a Melb gal, who just moved to Sydney six weeks ago from Adelaide so this is big move number two for me. Excuse my French but it is fucking hard! This making new friends gig is exactly like dating without the sex! It is so nerve wracking, getting up the courage to “ask someone out”! It is exhausting when everything feels hard and new.
I miss my village!
I’m happy to try and organise a get together of any MM’ers who are game. Bec (as in our MM Bec) organised one in Adelaide and I am thrilled to now have her as a friend. I’ve got kids but am happy to do a kid free thing so that everyone feels welcome, it’s not just us mums who are lonely! I’m still a total loser when it comesto everywhere in Sydney so have no clue where we should meet up but I’m game if you are! If you are interested comment here and I will pop some contact details up!
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Count me in, would love to give it a go
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Hi Katie – was it you that replied to Vicki’s post above? Seems our replies got deleted, if it was you.
Sarah in Sydney: which part of sydney are you in?
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Hi Sal & Vicki, yes it was me who replied to Vicki’s earlier comment, I’m keen to catch up on a weekend sometime? I moved back to Sydney some years ago after 8 years o/s and it felt like moving to a new city, so I think I know how you feel
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sure Katie – contact me: wright-stuff@hotmail.com
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I must be odd, or else really extraordinary, as I’ve made a TON of friends since I’ve had kids. And I live in Sydney (and I’m not from here originally). I’ve never had a problem?
Most of my friends are from mother’s groups, playgroup or I’ve met them through other Mums, or through the kid’s daycare. I pick up all the time – even at the gym
Water always finds it own level… like boyfriends – you have to kiss a few frogs to find a prince. I’ve found if you accept all the invites, stay positive, open and HONEST then friends will be lining up at the door. Sure some people you won’t click with and sometimes you don’t have anything in common but your kids …. but I don’t just want to be friend with people who share all my common interests?
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Hey Sarah (of the same name and location) I sound like you, my husband always teases me for making friends in the supermarket! But when you are starting from scratch, even if you do find it pretty easy to make new friends, it is bloody hard and exhausting because every friend is a new friend. There is no ease to slip into because you dont have history together. That takes time. I know I will get there, I just wish I could fast forward a bit!
PS is it you who responded to my comment yesterday on the wuss bag post? How are the kids liking their cement?
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I am so jealous of you Sarah! How do you do it? How do you start the conversation? I get so nervous I inevitably end up sounding like a complete tosser, really stuck up!
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I think you have to be really, really interested in other people, and WANT to know about them. Ask them questions – ie, “Have you used this product before? Did you like it? Because I’m not sure I’d like it, what’s your opinion?”
You’ll start chatting, and if you are very brave, you’ll suggest catching a coffee before you both leave the shopping centre.
Surprising how many times this works.
LOTS of people are shy and lonely, and don’t know how to REACH OUT.
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Sarah in Sydney – yep. Kids are getting spoonfuls of concrete (and fruit and nothing else after refusing to eat dinner and now complaining about being hungry!!!)
I dunno how I do it, Anna…. I guess I just start chatting away and find some common ground and off it goes. I’m always really interested in other people – what they do, where they are from, how they are finding motherhood, how old their kids are, where they are going for holidays…. some people you just hit it off with and chat chat chat. I’m also VERY honest and call a spade a spade (so I get told over and over) and I think people appreciate authenticity. I’m SO past considering what impression I make or what others think of me – that is for teenagers!!
Friendships aren’t about what you get from it or wondering what they think of you – but about what you have to offer others. And I’m a big believer in people coming into your life at certain times for particular reasons, and vice versa.
Sometimes I stop and think about all the people out there I don’t know yet that I may one day call my closest friends and get very excited !!!! I remember thinking that before I went away to uni, went overseas, before I had kids etc… And how some of my closest friends are people I once never knew. I just think that is ace! And now with my kids off to school I’m just so damn excited about all the new people I’ll meet through the kid’s school years.
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I’m with you, I can’t carry adult conversations anymore and I was always poor at striking up friendships. I have found though, that slowly but surely new relationships are trickling in. I’m happy with a few close friends and while I often run into situations where my husband is at work (4 week FIFO rotation) and all my friends are busy, I have finally built relationships with a few cool mums and their friends.
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Wow. I have been thinking this for a couple of years now, and thought I was on my own. How do adults meet people? I don’t have a lot of time to join groups and do courses, but when I have they haven’t led to lasting friendships.
I am 29 and I don’t have any children. I haven’t moved interstate but I have moved to the northern tip of the Sydney basin, making it tricky to stay friends with old coworkers who live an hour plus away. Many of my friends from school and other jobs have kids, and for the last 4+ years I have been working with a small group of 50-somethings. I haven’t been clubbing in forever, and I now feel like Im in limbo. Im a grown up but I don’t yet have the kids, so Im waiting for the next phase of my life to start.
I enjoy a glass of wine, I love food, and reading SMH cover to cover on a Saturday or Sunday morning at a cafe is my idea of heaven. Preferably in a little patch of sun. Im interested in a very wide range of things. Almost anything except cars and sport.
If you think we might have something in common, please feel free to email me at kylie@kylierachael.com.
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I think that’s one of the problems with Sydney too. It’s so big and often hard to get around. You and I sound quite similar but it sounds like we live in different parts of the city!
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I feel less lonely in my loneliness after seeing so many with the same problem.
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One of the things I miss most is having one of those long hysterical laughing fits where you just can’t stop-that happens with a great friend that knows you warts and all. When it’s at something silly that you can’t even explain what you’re laughing at to anyone that asks. To me, that’s akin to a great workout. Doesn’t happen nearly often enough
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I hear you Stellar, those are the best!
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I COMPLETELY relate. I am 30, working in Brisbane part-time, with a one year old. My work is very male dominated and because I am there three days a week I just can’t be bothered spending the precious days I do have with my daughter trawling gymboree or music lessons for bubs or whatever. There is only one playgroup we could find through PLaygroups Australia in our area and went a few times… and it was a flop.
I have a few friends but they’re just at a different life stage from me so it’s hard to find common times to catch up or things to do together.
I would so love a gang of cool mums to hang out with!
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There is a comment above about a possible Brisbane meetup!
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I live on the Gold Coast and it’s a very transient population here, makes it even harder. Recently I was astonished at the amount of dinner, BBQ invitations that dried up when my marriage fell apart! Almost as if no one wanted a single woman around their circle of married friends. Bizarre! And, offensive on a few levels..
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This resonates so well with me. I like to think of myself as an introverted extrovert. I like having lots of alone time, but I like recharging my batteries with laughter and banter from other people as well. After having my son a year ago I have normally been the one to instigate keeping in touch with other women. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesnt. But it’s hard to meet those you ‘click’ with. I’m 31, live in the eastern burbs of Melbourne and would love to have friends to ‘be myself wholly’ with. Any takers? I’d also love to meet their partners if they have one and have bbq’s at eachothers homes in summer, so I’m also looking for new couples friends-also VERY hard to find!!! It’s basically a different form of dating isn’t it!!
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Hi Stellar…I’m 29 and live in the Eastern Subs of Melboourne too. My boyfriend and I have been together for 2.5 years, are both working professionals and we really enjoy hanging out with other couples too. We have a few couple friends (some just married and others with young kids).
Would be happy to exchange emails?
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Sure! Hopefully it’s linked..
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Nope…that’s okay, mine is:
dga2126@hotmail.com
: )
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I have lived in Melbourne for a majority of my life but recently moved to Perth for 18 months and am now back again. I found that since being back, I haven’t slipped back into my old friendship group like I hoped and it feels like everyone has moved on without me. People have gotten married, broken up, had kids etc… It’s left me feeling lost. I miss the close connection that I had with two girlfriends in particular and now they’ve both got other close friends in my place. I’m in a really happy place in my life with a great boyfriend, a secure job and a lovely house – it frustrates me that I can’t seem to have it all by having a few great female friends to socialise with.
I’d love it if there were some way of meeting other women my age to make friends with. I’m terrible at sports like Netball or Basketball and things that require coordination like dancing and Zumba so this limits opportunities.
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Hi,
I joined MeetUp which is where people from all over can find common interests and catch up with people who are interested in the same things. I haven’t actually attended any of these yet (I’m a bit scared in all honesty!) but there is something for everyone: http://www.meetup.com/cities/au/melbourne/
Most of the ones I have found seem to be mostly food based!!
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Emma, your baby is gorgeous!
Making friends as an adult is hard, full stop. I’ll admit to assuming it would be easier for people with children because of having that in common, but now it seems obvious to me that it really isn’t any easier!
I’m in my late twenties, childless, and I moved to Sydney from Melbourne last year. I’ve actually found everyone here to be nice. Maybe it’s where I live? But like many others in my boat, I haven’t really made anything more than acquaintances. This comes from me too – I haven’t met anyone that I really ‘clicked’ with yet.
It’s true – it can be really difficult to forge genuine, close friendships when you’re over having only superficial similarities in common. I have found Twitter to be really great though, I love it.
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Hi stellar! I’m 22 from SE suburbs – have a 14 month old, bhubby is from eastern burbs so we are there often
I am in the same boat – have lost all my pre baby friends and was ostracised from my mothers group due to the large age gap – I am very mature for my age. I also work full time so I have never been given a chance to meet some really close friends! Hope to hear from you!
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Hi Sammy! Send me your email address if u like. My boy is turning one this Friday so it will be good to have another little friend for him too!
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Hi stellar
my email is samanthaforkas@hotmail.com I’d love Alfie to have a friend around his age too
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another no mate mummy here! Relocated to Melb from Perth early this year with hubby, cat and 3.5 year old son. 4 days in new city and found out am up the duff with baby #2! so first 3 months here were misery wtih horrible morning sickness and didn’t get out much. then joined a playgroup and didn’t really ‘click’ with any of the other mums, or my son with the other kids. ditto for a toddler art class and sometimes we were the only ones who turned up. we now do a music class for toddlers and the other mums and kids are lovely but no one really socialises, just turns up and leaves straight away. it IS difficult to connect with like minded people. luckily i have a few friends here that i know from before we moved over, and my son keeps me busy, but it can be very lonely and isolating. sometimes the only adult conversations i have are with someone at the markets, or Coles, or health food store! i also feel sad for my son as I feel he went from somewhere where he had lots of extended family and his little friends, nad here he doesn’t have a buddy to play with outside of daycare (he goes 2 days a week) or a best friend. our society has lost that community connection, i think that is the problem.
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Agadoo where in Melbourne are you? I have a 3.5 yr girl and a 6 month old , always happy to meet new people.
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Sydney is a notoriously difficult city in which to make friends. Everyone is working all the time! Only ex-Melbournians have dinner parties in Sydney and then these eventually stop when they don’t get invited back.
The only time you bump into anyone is at the chemist, because everyone is getting medicine because they’re working all the time…run down, stressed.
And then people move. Sydney is the New York of Aus. Transient, money focussed and while fun, you don’t want to live there long term.
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I’m sorry, but this just isn’t true. I am a working mum with one bub and have made some fantastic friends. I have made life long friends through work, netball and recently some fantastic mothers at my mothers’ group. A lot of mothers have mentioned they haven’t “clicked” with anyone at mothers’ group, but it takes time. It took at least 6 months for me to sort out which mothers I clicked with and I am now great mates with those women. However, it did take some perserverance.
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Agree! It took me 12 months to ‘get’ the women in my mums’ group because they were all so different to my usual friends…now, 3 years on, I love them and couldn’t live without them!! Sometimes, if people seem different to you on the surface but you have similar values, you’ve got to stick it out
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Mamabake sounds great, and I’d like to start attending one, or get one of my own going… Bunch of mums (with their kids/babies) get together once a week and cook, or share pre-cooked meals. Great to stock up the fridge for the week, and catch up with like-minded women. Most of the women that go to these have a fair bit in common. Maybe something to look into:) Goodluck!
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I’ll be your friend, Emma! PS. Your baby is ADORABLE!
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I hear you loud and clear Emma. As my workmate says, it’s really hard to make friends as a grown-up!
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I completely agree with you – it’s really hard. Some days I find myself having huge (unnecessary) chats to people who serve me in shops. The poor buggers just want to say “hi” and get on with their jobs! The added bonus of having a nine month old myself means that coffee shop “dates” are very problematic with someone who needs to crawl and pull themselves up on anything that doesn’t move (or does!)
I’ve found the local PCYC or YMCA has some great programs for little ones where I’ve met some nice mums…nothing has converted into a friendship yet – but I’m trying!
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I do that too. Chat away to shop girls/guys as they look at me like I’m a weirdo. Motherhood can be so incredibly boring and lonely. I find it hard with new friends bc the history isn’t there and the superficial of new friendships doesn’t pull me in.
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I am not married, I have no children and even I am finding it hard to make new friends in a new city.
I recently made a decision to limit my career options by moving from Canberra (the hub of the public service) to be closer to my family in QLD. I don’t regret this decision at all because at the end of the day, family is what matters to me. I have a great job and the fast tracked career no longer appealed to me as much as seeing my niece grow up and being back in the warm weather.
But, in saying that – as a single youngish lady who had a great circle of friends in Canberra, I am struggling a bit. I have been in Brisbane now for 3 months and I have no idea how to meet and make new friends. I live with my sister and her husband and I am often left feeling like the third wheel – or the fifth wheel when their couple friends come over to visit They generally include me in most things, but I really need to find some of my own friends.
There is only one other lady where I work that is near my age – and today I pretty much invited myself to her next social gathering!
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Why not do auditions? Post your situation on here, plus your email address (open a new alias one if you want). If people are really looking for friends, they can contact you, and you can find out via email if you have much in common.
I live in Sydney. I don’t drink (very much). I am 32. Child free. I DON’T want to talk about weight loss, diets, the gym, other womens bodies, reality tv, clubbing or celebrities, and I don’t really want to go on shopping sprees or talk about new cars, new houses, shopping, buying, consuming. I’m over it. (Can you tell that this is what a lot of my current acquaintances are obsessed with?).
I AM happy to talk about your feelings, hypothetical situations (imagine if…), food, men, women, dating, relationships, travel, books, movies, politics, news, current events, cooking, dreams and aspirations…gardening, art, music, craft (don’t know much about these kind of things, but happy to learn!)
I am happy to go out for a cup of tea, walks, exploring, movies, meals, I am not happy to go out clubbing, or any variation of clubbing, and usually don’t even like to go out drinking.
If you want to be my friend, you can email kate.abbott@y7mail.com.
I hope this is not a very dangerous thing to do?
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You. Sound. Awesome. And we share a name!
If only I lived in Sydney!
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I would love to be your friend.. as you seem to be having the same dull conversations im having, but im a little older (38 yo) so am becoming less tolerant of it all. and unfortuantely i live in Brisbane. I will email you though, as we might be able tpo escape these conversations through email or the like.. x sarah
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Have any of you tried twitter? It’s an online community based on finding people and people finding you based on shared interests and beliefs. It’s fantastic for networking and for finding new friends.
I’ve met some lovely people through it unintentionally. I’ve been for dinners with groups of lovely like minded women of varied ages and life experiences and had a fantastic time. I’ve been invited to events I never would’ve considered previously, developed some lively friendships and a wonderfully supportive community.
I’m not a mum but many of the wonderful ladies I’ve become friends with are.
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My bestie has made so many genuine, close friends on twitter!
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My best friend from mother’s group (we’re lucky – we have one of the really good ones) is a girl from Melbourne – and she’s moving back there this week! That’s the third of our mother’s group girls who have moved back to Melbourne. Is it us? LOL. In relation to mother’s groups, don’t give up if the first one doesn’t work out. There are others out there. We’ve found the girls who want to talk about things other than bubs over a Pinot or two. Of course, we talk about our bubs and have done for a year and a half – but there’s more to our friendships. Sydney is a tough city to crack – and I’ve lived here my whole life. There’s a great group on Facebook called Baby Envy – it’s about 700 mums from all around Australia and I’m sure you’d be able to connect with like minded people on there (http://bumpyroadtobubba.com/2012/01/19/saved-by-social-media/). I love your RSVP for mums without the weirdos. Hey, I’d even love normal RSVP without the weirdos! Also, not sure where in Sydney you live but there’s a great new spot for mums in Bondi Junction called The Mama Club. If you get there, tell Sara that MJ sent you. I’m off to check out your blog. There’s a link to mine in here too … maybe we should start a mumma club and call it Woine Toime? LOL!
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I went along to an event called ‘Be My Wingman’ earlier this year (and wrote about it here: http://inthetaratory.wordpress.com/2012/02/02/be-my-wingman/) – it was quite fun! I still catch up for dinner/drinks with some of the girls I met there too.
I know they hold events in Canberra and Sydney, so maybe that could be something to try out if you’re interested…
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I feel so sad reading this & all the comments realising how many of us crave that connection with others & are struggling to find it! I am not a mum but relate too. I have ‘friends’ that I see occassionally but I crave that deep connected friendship where you both value each other so much & are there no matter what. We def need to create something proactive to help all us women to find great friends! There is an
organisation that does Speed ‘friending’ in Syd & other cities. I went once but found it too much pressure & nothing in common! I like the idea of RSVP for friendships and it could work!
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Elle, you must have written your comment about the ‘speed friending’ organisation just as I was writing mine!
RSVP for friendships would definitely be a great idea.
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Elle, there’s a friends section on Gumtree.com.au
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I moved from Sydney to New York with toddlers aged 18 months and 5 weeks. It was the middle of winter and my husband travelled often for work. Once I got a handle on the driving, I set off in search of friends – difficult as NY was in hibernation for winter. Whilst I met some lovely people by accosting other mothers at the park, pre-school etc, it took a while and none of them passed my “true friend” test – ie could I have a really good cry in front of them without being embarrassed? As much as I made an effort to befriend the locals, the only women I had a real connection with were expat Australians. Stick with your Melbourne buddies for now but keep your eyes open – Good luck!
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Hahahahha I’m laughing about the leaf!!
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when I had my little boy, we moved out to a different area so we could get a bigger house. The people at the local play group were nice enough but, like you, we had nothing in common. I also went along for a coffee/play morning with an established mothers group – same thing. You can feel very lonely being a mum. Luckily I have some lovely friends who live in the same city as me, just not in the same suburb. If I was in Sydney, I would be your friend Emma, I think I would like having a wine with you and discussing the best place to get baby products and cute baby clothes
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My husband is part of a group of 6 friends who all went to school together. They stay in regular contact and manage to all get together once a year even though they are spread across the country. I am very envious of him. I moved schools too many times to still have school friends 20+ years later. But I have a wonderful mothers group. We were put together by the local baby health clinic, 10 years ago when our first babies were 6 weeks old. Now I’m the only one with a toddler still at home, so we get together once a month for dinner and a catch up. It’s such a wonderful group of women who didn’t know one another beforehand, who all have the same thoughts and ideas on child-raising. No one has any more way-out, wacky ideas than the rest of us. And now that my kids are at school I have made a few close friends, women I can call on in an emergency, and believe me, it’s hard to farm out 3 kids to the one place in an emergency! We have considered making a tree-change before our eldest starts high school, but I just couldn’t imagine leaving behind the community of people I have in my life. Making real friends as an adult is really hard.
But my husband is my best friend
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Know how you feel!
Wanted….friends. Im not 40 yet, i have 2 teenage kids who spend 1 week with me and 1 week with their father, i have 1 fiance who spends 1 week at home and 3 weeks at work, i have a 18yo step kid who does whatever he wants. I have this sporadic spare time and then i have this time i have to devote to my family………………..finding friends is hard, keeping them is harder.
and is it awful of me to not want friends who have small children, has anyone else found this uncomfortable. I love kids, ive had 2 of them but i dont want to hang out with them anymore.
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ahaha, I don’t think that’s awful, i think that’s awesome!
But maybe that is because I am a married, never want kids, 30 something… I don’t have much interest in kids, and I don’t find it very relaxing hanging out with parents with small kids.
People probably think I’m awful, but I don’t care! I know what I like…
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I’m with you. I’m a smidge over 40, married, no kids. The last thing I want is a friend with small children. *They* don’t have time to be a friend. I don’t go clubbing, but I love a dinner and a cocktail or sushi & a movie. FWK (friends with kids) have all these hassles and things are not spur of the moment. I can’t call on Tuesday for a movie on Wednesday because FWK just cannot drop everything and make that time. Or they just don’t have the money. It’s not being mean, it’s just a fact of life.
I have long term FWK and am so glad that those kids are getting up in the tweenie/teen years because it means I am getting my friends back! Some of the kids are old enough to stay home on their own now, so I can have my friends back for a nice dinner and a drink. They don’t have to leave early because of the babysitter or because they can’t handle a hangover with a toddler or because that $100 they spent on a night out bites into their grocery budget.
The problem that I’m seeing now with my FWK is that the ones that dropped off the face of the earth because they had 3 kids under 5 (which I totally understand) are now getting back in touch. Their kids are now teenagers and my FWK now have more time on their hands and now want some adult company.
While I get all that, my nose is a little put out of joint. I’m not letting it bother me that much, but it niggles in the back of my mind every now and then.
*They – I’m so generalising here. I know we’re all different and I shouldn’t lump everyone in the same basket, but I am.
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Not at all awful leadlebeatle, honesty is the keystone to any friendship!
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Nice to know I wasn’t alone and I can’t beleive there was even an abbreviation FWK. That made my day.
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I think making new friends as an adult is hard work whether you have a child or not. I’ve got a few different groups of friends – school friends, uni friends, work friends but you do tend to drift apart as everyone goes in separate directions and does their own thing…and before you know it your old besties have new besties. Meeting new people that you actually click with isn’t as easy as it use to be as a kid!
I actually had a moment of friend-envy in the weekend. I was out at a cafe with my mum and at the table across from us was a group of girls at a similar age to me all catching up/laughing/swapping stories over coffees and cakes. It made me want my own group of close knit friends…
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Hi, I live in Adelaide and have joined the Facebook Group “Adelaide Mummy Meetings” – they also have a website http://www.adelaidemummymeetings.com.au. It started early this year and has over 3000 facebook members. It looks like a great group with catch-ups in various locations around Adelaide with social events like movie nights and quiz nights. I am waiting for my first baby to arrive (am 8 months pregnant) and have been apprehensive about having 12 months off work as I have never NOT worked! I think that AMM may be a saviour for me as most of my friends are not mums… Good idea for other states to use!
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Hey mum to be
Were in Queensland and i am about to have my first bub in a month. Ooo would love to know if there is a similar website fb site for qld mums …
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Jen – baby envy – think it is a QLd facebook page. Has about 700 memember
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Where do I begin?
This is the story of my life. I am a mother of four, 38 as of yesterday, and having someone who I can really be me with is just a pipe dream. No one wants to be “real” friends anymore. I know myself I stifle my opinions on a daily basis when out with other women just to make sure I don’t offend or upset anyone. I have made two close friends since two of my children have started school but even with them, the relationships are guarded and controlled.
I want someone to cry with, to laugh with, to ring on a whim with nothing but a bit of gossip to report. Someone to confide in when I have a strange rash, or problems in the bedroom. Someone who will be there for the long haul, but alas, I am unsure it will ever happen.
I am a self confessed clingy, moody, bitch. But once I love you, I am the most faithful person on this planet.
Position Vacant.
Someone…Anyone?
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I know exactly how you feel, and I too are looking for a good friend, to laugh, gossip, be silly and just hang out with sometimes. I moved to Sydney in march, I have 2 small children and a hubby. We don’t know anyone here it’s quiet depressing and really hard, as we have no family around so it’s just us .. All the time! I have just started a new job, but even though I’m only 35 I finding it hard to fit in , the younger ones all hang out together outside of work, go clubbing etc, they don’t want a mum hanging out with them, and aren’t interested in hearing about what I did with the kids on the weekend , then there are some older staff members but there families are all grown up, they too don’t want to hang out with young kids. Since moving back to Australia from uk A couple of years ago, I’ve found it so hard to make friends. I’ve been to play groups.. I just get sick of the competition.. Who cares if your kid can repeat the alphabet before mine!! So if someone was to set up an app or website or something I would defiantly be there.
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Where abouts in Sydney are you Vicki? I’m in Sydney aswell!
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Happy birthday for yesterday! I would like to apply for the position please
are you in Melbourne?
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Thanks for the birthday wishes. Unfortunately I am in the Hunter Valley sorry. Would love to move to Melbourne though!
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PS. Happy Birthday for yesterday !
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PS. Happy Birthday for yesterday !
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Actually I thought of a making am iPhone app that’s a mummy version of Grindr- use the app to locate desperate mums in your vicinity looking to hookup for a quick coffee or playground session. Any takers?
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Had the same problem myself, met loads of people but not ones I had much in common with other than a baby. I did finally meet my first post baby bestie when I enrolled in a course last year, bonus that she also had a toddler. So that would be my suggestion, do a course in something you are interested in and you should meet people who are also interested in the same thing. It won’t gaurantee that they have kids and can relate to that and with a baby it is tough to find the time especially if family is far away, but after going through mother’s groups, playgroups and kinder this was by far my most successful friend making venture.
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I am glad to see there are plenty of comments saying this is not just a mum problem! I am baby free, but have a job that keeps me very busy – and as much as I adore some of the people I work with I think I need to expand my circle a bit! But no one seems to quite know how – I have tried taking classes and even looked on meetup.com but still have no luck.
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It’s definitely not just a mum problem – in fact, at least with a baby you’ve got an automatic ‘conversation starter’.
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Definitely agree. Not exclusively a mum problem.
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Yep definitely not a ‘mum’ problem, i’m happily married without kids and I find it hard to make new friends.
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It is hard! My husband and I moved to QLD from Melbourne 8 years ago with 2 toddlers (now at school). I joined a playgroup and like you, said yes to everthing. Met some lovely ladies but no one that I really “clicked” with. Once my son started prep I met some mums and have a few nice friends now but really, after 8 years, if we left town tomorrow we’re not leaving life long friends behind. We are planning another move, and now my kids are at school (different for you I know) I’ve decided I need to find a hobby or two as a way to make friends for me. One thing this experience has taught me is that I want to spend time with people I really like, not just fill in time with groups etc. Also the move has been awesome for our little family and brought us closer together so hope you find the same.,Love the idea of a friends website though!
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When I lived in London they had something exactly like this. It was a group called City Socialising. They held meetups at different London events. You’d meet in a pub beforehand and there was a host who would help the conversation get started. It was mostly for young single people though.
I toyed with starting something for Sydney when we moved back home. It was lots of fun and we made heaps of friends through it. Although I think it worked so well in London because it has such a transient population.
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They still have something like this but it’s a singles thing now so not for making friends. I wish they did have meetups for friendless people because I’ve struggled so much over five years to make real friends in London.
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Hi Jade
I moved to London 5 years ago and completely agree, it can be a lonely place! Are you still living here? Want to catch up sometime?
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Hi Lucky, yes I’m still in London! My email address is ohantipodes@gmail.com if you want to chat on email and maybe catch up for a coffee!
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Why not use this as an opportunity to organise a Sydney coffee/wine catchup? I’m in Canberra and would love to have one here too to meet some new people!
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I’m in Canberra and would love to make new friends too
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I am up for making new friends as well here in canberra – anyone keen for a catchup soon?
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I am, let’s do it. Next Saturday somewhere in the city?
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Where abouts?
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Koko Black for hot chocolate or coffee? 1pm? Hopefully a few can make it. I’ll be wearing a blue scarf
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i will come.do you mean this coming sat or the one after?
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This saturday at Koko Black at 1pm – I am keen…see you there.
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Sorry just realised this saturday is booked with parties – one lunch one dinner.
email me on dmck1556@gmail.com and we can organise something.
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Ok well how about not this Saturday but the one after? Same time and place?
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Yep, I hear ya! 32, mum of 1, loving husband, and family who all keep me busy.
Ive done playgroup/mums group etc, but I would like to meet some people in which the conversations and activites dont fully revolve around children, Not saying I dont appreciate those conversation’s and friendships too, they just aren’t nourishing in the way a damn good BFF is.
It’s been so long that I think I have forgotten how to have friends…
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Excuse me for pointing out a typo (and sorry to go all grammar nazi).
“apply named” should be “aptly named”.
Feel free to delete this comment once corrected.
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Thanks goose!
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Emma, a suggestion is to join a Playgroup. If you dont like it, try out another one. Playgroup nsw has a site which lists all the playground in your area. I know when I used to go everyone was so friendly and after 3 years have gained a few good friends for life. Being a first time mum can be isolating in itself, let alone being in a new state. Wish you all the best and believe me once your little one hits toddler, you will be so busy that you wil only have time for 1 or 2 catchups a week
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