by EMMA MACGILLIVRAY
I am a female, 30 years old, with a loving husband and a 9 month old son living in Sydney. I like meeting people and socialising. I don’t have a criminal history and I like animals. Most say I am a nice person. My husband gets along with everyone and son is quite adorable. Who wants to be friends with me? Anyone? Hellooooooo?
My New Year’s resolution was to say “Yes” to everything. No, not because I found inspiration in the not-so-hilarious Jim Carey film ‘The Yes Man’ but because at the beginning of the year my husband, my 3 month old son and I relocated from Melbourne to Sydney.
My resolution was in effort to make some new friends. I was terrified of the thought of leaving my nearest and dearest in Melbourne but I knew that I would give it my best shot in the hope of making a new batch of lovely buddies –albeit in between the nappies, feeds and naps.
So far, I think I have said “yes” to everything. Every coffee date, every playgroup, every mothers group and every dinner with other couples with children. My new Sydney mother’s group failed miserably and was rather embarrassing (my son James and I were the only ones that showed up) and the coffee dates have been ‘blind dates’ where both parties have come away thinking “Oh that was nice but we have NOTHING in common”.
Thus far I have a made a total of two Sydney friends that I love dearly and we cherish our weekly catch ups aptly named ‘wine time’ (pronounced woine toime) but the three of us need more. We all need to meet new people. Funnily enough, we’re all from Melbourne. It’s strange how that happens. I think it’s because we had more in common than just babies.
As every mother does at some point, I had a low moment a few weeks ago. James had croup, it hadn’t stopped raining for 2 weeks and our beloved pet died. I needed to do something before I sunk into that dark hole that every new mother hears about and fears.
So, I started something that is very out of character for me…a YouTube blog called Consumer Mum. I talk about my latest baby and beauty product finds. A good product has me pulling out the savings card before you can say “Sucked in”. It is a great hobby and I love sharing my finds (but please don’t be overwhelmed by my tens of hits – fame hasn’t gone to my head yet). However after psychoanalysing myself, I realised that I started it purely for someone to talk to. I know that the person wasn’t opposite me sipping on a cup of tea at my dining room table but I thought that the other mum on the other end of the interwebs was hopefully finding me to be their digital buddy too.
I think there needs to be something other than a system where a group of 10 or so women are thrown into a room with NOTHING in common than a baby that is around the same age and a bout of mastitis. Don’t get me wrong, I found the one session of my first mother’s group in Melbourne that I did actually attend to be very helpful and insightful but needless to say I knew from the get go that the other very lovely ladies and I weren’t going to be attending our children’s weddings together in 25 years time.
I think there needs to be a forum for mums to meet other mums with similar interests and have MORE in common than just their baby or child. We do everything to get our children interacting with other little people. Playgroups, crèche, activities…but what about us? Being a mum is rather lonely but no one tells you that. It feels particularly lonely when you’ve gone from being a full time professional and as soon as your little bundle of joy arrives in the world you are transported back into the 1950’s and you’re looking for your identity in the washing machine. I feel like I’m Samantha in Bewitched. If only I could wiggle my nose and POOF, I have a friend.
Sadly, I know I’m not the only one that feels this way.
I think of my Mum who was in a very similar situation when she had my brother and I in the early eighties. My Dad’s job meant that they lived in all kinds of crazy places when we were very young and back then they didn’t have iPhones, Internet, Facebook or Skype for god’s sake! I don’t know how she did it but all I know is, we now live in a digital age so why is it so freaking hard to make friends as a mum?
I think there needs to be a RSVP for mums but without the weirdos. Australia’s Biggest Morning Tea but with wine and good fun. Think of a place for Mums everywhere to meet, socialise and make FRIENDS. Friends in the true sense of the word – not just another woman that has a baby the same age. I don’t know what this is but I’m on a mission to create this imaginary, delightful world.
Am I the only one or are there thousands of other women out there just like me looking for a friend? If so, I’ll be your BF 4 EVS.
P.S. just so you know, the highlight of my day was filling up the car with petrol and having a hearty 30 second laugh when my son spat out a leaf (I have no idea where he got it from). Shit, I need some friends.
Emma MacGillivray is a Sydney based mum, wife, blogger, marketer and product junkie. You can find her Twitter here and her blog here.
Have you ever moved to a new city and found it hard to meet new people? Are you still friends with the people you’ve known since school or have you made new friends as you’ve gotten older?







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Hello ladies,
I am amazed by this article and all this responses. I am in the similar position as well. I am 26yo with a 6months old baby. Would love to make some new friends! I am down to earth, caring, fun person. I live in Sydney, Ryde area. If anyone close to me, write me a message and we will organise something. sydney1987@hotmail.com.au
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Wow what a great article. Thank you. I too am hoping to make some great friendships. I am in Sydney (Pendle Hill). Around Westmead, Parramatta etc. I am married and have a daughter who is 2.7years. I find that it seems as though some parents already have their group of friends and won’t let you in or don’t bother talking to you. I am basically looking for easy going people to have a laugh with and watch the friendship grow. Feel free to contact me if you are interested : )
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Hay I have lived In Sydney for years and in still in the same boat only it feels worse now I have a 2yr old. I’m to shy. Lol well to start with anyways. What areas in Sydney are mumma’s from ? Maybe just maybe we can start a local area search among us all and find some like minded friends?
Me : Parramatta area
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Hi Amy…I’m near you if you are interested : )
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Hi Amy and Rose, I’d love to catch up with either/both of you if you’re interested. I live in Westmead and have a 3 year old girl and a 16 month old boy. We moved here from the South Coast for my husbands work and I don’t really know anyone in the area. I’m going a little crazy at home with my kids, anyone keen to meet up?
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Hi Jess A Definetly interested. I can’t seem to message you privately on here. Do you know how to do it.
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Hi there,
My name is Jess and I have stumbled across your post!
I am a personal trainer, and was wondering if anyone would be interested in getting together for a mums and bubs fitness classes once a week? I already run similar classes with another group and am looking to start up a new one in Sydney.
Babies/kids are more than welcome to come along! I run most of my sessions at people’s houses, but find the mums and bubs class works fabulously in a park, fresh air is very underrated!
The classes are quite cheap, at $15 per person. A great way to feel healthier and fitter, which is crucial when little tots are running around!
If anyone is interested, id love to hear from you!
Feel free to also check out:
http://www.facebook.com/kravefitness
Have a great day ladies!!
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Haha weight watchers been thinking the exact same thing lol
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Omg ur post reminds me of me! Im 29, moved to sydney with my husband from melbourne, a huge animal lover (in fact im a vet) and love woine toime! (Well I usually do but we are expecting out first child in june so off the wines at the moment!). I would love to contact some other women in a similar situation as the few friends I have in sydney are nowhere near having kids and im pretty nervous about being lonely when our son arrives. Did you find any good groups?
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Hi Mel & Lauren
I am in exactly the same position. Maybe we could meet for woine toime?? I am also pretty normal – no criminal history and I too love animals. (I have a Westie who does not get along with my seven month old daughter at all). I moved here from overseas and made friends at my work. However, I am now a stay-at-home mum and don’t know many people with kids.
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Found your post, im a lonely housewife 27 I have children and no friends with kids. have you organised or stumbled across a good mothers group, I live in sydney and am sad to say friendless. Please let me know I need to make a change this year and make some mum buddies. Im vey normal, friendly, my children are my life but I know iam missing something and that may just be people
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Hi Mel & Lauren
I am in exactly the same position. Maybe we could meet for woine toime?? I am also pretty normal – no criminal history and I too love animals. (I have a Westie who does not get along with my seven month old daughter at all). I moved here from overseas and made friends at my work. However, I am now a stay-at-home mum and don’t know many people with kids.
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Hi girls,
I am looking for some friends too! I am 26yo housewife too. Have a 6months old son. I am very simple and easy going person. My all friends are busy – working, studying and all other staff. None of have children and don`t understand my position. Would be great to find someone to share just casual things! I live in Sydney.. inner west. Anyone close to me?
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I am 27, living in Sydney and in a similar position. I think this can happen to anyone not just mums. I find making genuine friends difficult. Ones that wants to make an effort to get to know you, want to stay in touch e.g msg, email, call, meet up at least once or twice a week. Someone who doesn’t just contact you when they are bored or want something. Hope no one judges here and i am not moping either, just honest. Sadly i have acquaintances only. Friends like anything takes times to develop and it should go both ways.
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Just stumble upon this. What a wonderful article.
I am 27, living in Sydney and in a similar position. I think this can happen to anyone not just mums. I find making genuine friends difficult. Ones that wants to make an effort to get to know you, want to stay in touch e.g msg, email, call, meet up at least once or twice a week. Someone who doesn’t just contact you when they are bored or want something. Hope no one judges here and i am not moping either, just honest. Sadly i have acquaintances only. Friends like anything takes times to develop and it should go both ways.
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Emma, wonderful article – I feel the same way, only I’m in Hobart and have a 15-month old boy. I hope you found the friendships you sought. I’m still looking!
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I have the same issue. I moved from one QLD town to another in 2003 & the only ‘close’ friends I’ve made are work mates which raises issues when everything falls to shit at work & you’re annoyed at someone or something trivial they did. It is crazy hard (I believe) to meet & retain friendships. I was 19 when I moved out of home & I’m still searching for a good mate (other than my partner)
Good luck
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It’s not just when you move with kids, sadly it’s even harder to make friends when you move without them. My kids are now young adults, and this is our 4th major move, and we’ve tried all sorts of ways to meet like minded people, but really to no avail. Thank goodness we like each other’s company! Friends overseas said that when they were moving around there were newcomers groups that you could join, haven’t found any in Brisbane… and most people here have their friendship groups well and truly set. Totally agree, it’s not just Mums, it’s people ….
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Does it have to be “mums”? Why not “women”? Are you a “mum” first before you’re a woman or a person? Are you saying you only want friends who are “mums” too? If so then yes the only thing you will have in common will be that you have children.
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No of course it doesn’t have to be mums.
But the experience of having so much trouble getting out to meet friends may be unique to mums, who are, for whatever long or short period of time, staying home with the baby / kids. It’s hard to time these things around the naps, feeds, changes, that happen at a different time of day each day. “What’s a good time to call / duck round?” I honestly could not say – even as much as 1-2 hours in advance!
Having a baby is a drastic life change. Without thinking about it, we often depend on school / work / study to be a place where we spend a lot of time, and find time to hang out (lunch / coffee break) with people with at least a few things in common (local area, interests, etc.). When you’re at home with kids, you’re the one adult in your ‘workplace’, the best excuse to go anywhere else is your kids – ’cause they won’t tolerate going anywhere that bores them for too long – and ‘time to chat’ may or may not occur, and certainly won’t be at a predictable time.
If you don’t have kids, and have long-term friends that do… when was the last time you called them? And how many times did you do so, only to hear screaming kids in the background? And when that happened, did you call back? How long did it take you to do that?
Some people are great at maintaining friendships in the midst of these challenges. But it is *really* hard work. From both sides.
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If you want a good, funny, easy, quick read about this situation and motherhood in general, get your hands on a copy of “Say It Again In A Nice Voice” by Meg Mason. Hilarious and she writes beautifully about motherhood – the good, the bad and the ugly! I made lots of friends in my new area through playgroup which is the highlight of my week!
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Hi,
This article just showed up in my twitter news feed and while I realise it was published some time ago I wanted to make a comment because my mum actually works for a place called Lennox House in Newtown, Sydney and I also appreciate how hard making adult friends can be!!
They run very popular play groups, occasional care, music and gym classes for little ones but also is a great meeting spot for parents and advice with many of the parents going on to make friends and having coffees after sessions! I’ve not personally ever been involved as I don’t have children but mum has worked there for about 10 years and while it might not be a solution for all it might help some as there are many people there in similar situations.
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I LOVE my mothers group. Must have been lucky ( or desperate for friends) but I look forward to our weekly catch up.
Btw I have a seven month old boy, moved to western suburbs of Melbourne from country Victoria, so all of my friends previously were my husbands.
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Hey Ladies! I’ve only just stumbled across this and it is so refreshing to read! My husband works long hours (also 12 to 3 hours) each day and is also out a lot on weekends which means I am with our 12 month old daughter 24/7.
I used to work in advertising and miss it terribly – all the people and laughs and general craziness! My hubby doesn’t really understand how hard it is to be at home – I’m surprised and disappointed that he isn’t more involved…
My family all work and I don’t really have any other support – I haven’t even been to the hair dresser since my daughter was born as I don’t have anyone to watch her! As you can imagine I’ve also never looked worse which isn’t helping anything!
I’m also pregnant with bub number 2. We wanted them close but I massively underestimated how hard it would be to ‘back up’ so soon! I’m itching for a night out and a few wines but alas that isn’t in my immediate future.
I love spending time with my daughter by I am lonely and would love to meet some other mums for weekly coffee / play dates and a few cheeky nights out down the track if anyone is interested?
I live in Earlwood in Sydney’s inner west and would love to hear from anyone is interested?
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Hi Nikki,
I just left a comment that I think might be relevant to you as you are only down the road from Newtown about a place called Lennox House. Not sure if its exactly what you’d be looking for but a good opportunity to meet other mums in the area.
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Hi Nikki, I too am pregnant (with my first) and used to work in the advertising industry which I loved. Ive been on maternity leave for literally 2 minutes and I am already bored! I am pretty close to you in Croydon Park and am too desperately itching for a few wines and a night out! I am due in March with my first baby and have missed my social life these past 8 months. None of my friends have kids so Im coming to the realisation that life is about to become very different. Its definitely kinda boring being pregnant! When are you due? I am looking to meet other mums and mums to be for coffee/wine/play dates =)
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I love it! I absolutely need mum friends. None of the wonderful friends i have, have babies, most of them aren’t married and its the same with my husbands friends. I never realized we did all that so early, until number 2 was born. I always thought our friends would catch up by the time we had another baby – not the case. I’m still waiting for my friends to be mum friends and to relate to each other again.
I’m 31 with a 3yo boy and 12wk old daughter, living in Sydney’s Hills district. Would love to meet some other mums. Wow I do sound desperate and single!
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Het mel…definitely interested…
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I’m in need of a friend! Lol. I have a daughter who is nearly eight months old and would love to meet other mums. My email is naomi.smith@live.com.au
Please let me know if you would like to meet up
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Where a outs do you live?
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I went to Be My Wingman event – and have made such a great group of friends now. We meet up every couple of weeks. I always said Sydney was clicky, but its funny, its as if I have formed my own click with them now!
I dont know how I managed before, I knew something was missing in my life but now I have more friends to go out with everything seems so much better. I tried meeting friends through Netball and I even joined weight watchers, (embarrassingly!) to try and meet female friends. This was def a good way. Good luck with your friend friending.
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Emma, thank you for the great post. It’s “good” (I tried to find another word, but couldn’t) see I’m not the only one struggling with that. My case is a little different… I don’t have kids and I was relocated to another country, by myself. Exciting and scaring at the same time!! Time gone and I found the love of my life – which is absolutely great, but it makes more difficult to make friends, I think. The company I work for have lots of single expats that socialise together every weekend, and gave me all support once I arrived. But now that I’m not single and don’t live around Melbourne CBD anymore I’m not part of the group. Sad! Still trying to find “my group”. Fingers crossed.
Not sure if you ever heard about a website “Be my wingman”, or something like that. It’s a kind of speed date with the purpose of making new friends – at least everyone is there with the same purpose. I went once, and was good to meet people outside work.
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I made a mistake with my email… maxc78@live.com.au
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I’m not sure what happened… I did send a comment prior to my email correction.
In a nutshell… In in my 30′s, single, child free and just want to say thank you to you Emma, for saying out loud what a lot if us are obviously feeling.
In the age of Facebook ‘ friends’, face to face friendship is still the ultimate.
I’m an inner westie, in Sydney and would be happy to hear from mums or child-free women alike. Feel free to get in contact. Coffees or cocktails await…
maxc78@live.com.au
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Emma, you Have just explained my current exact situation.. 30, small child, stay at home mum after a hectic professional career, and lonely.
Thank you for reminding me its not just me, many ther new mums are in the same boat. I plan to be one of your 10s of YouTube visitors in the future!!
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Claire, where abouts are you living? I’m in Sydney!
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Hi, oh my gosh! This sound like me 5 years ago. My husband got transferred to Sydney and we had a 5month old baby. It took me forever (or so it seems to find friends). I found (eventually) possibly the best playgroup ever! I went to a few and found one where I made some really wonderful friends. I think it takes persistence and perseverance to find one that feels right and you find that person or people that you ‘click’ with. I believe playgroup is just as much for the mums as it is for the kids. Just keep an open mind. It’s super tough I know. I have literally been there. I remember when I made my first Sydney friend, it had been so long since id made a ‘new’ friend it was nerve-wracking and when I asked her if she would like to meet at the park or have a coffee the feeling was similar to asking a guy out on a date! Crazy… But worth it. It really can be a tough time. Sydney is an infectious place though, I miss it. I hope it gets easier.
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I agree that you need to try a few playgroups before you find one that works for you. I have three children ranging from 5 to 15 so I have been involved in playgroup for many years. The friends I have made have continued as the kids go through school. We often have nights out to the movies or dinner. Our favourite activity is meeting at the beach or park for coffee (us) and play(kids and us!).
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Maybe Mamamia should organise an afternoon catch up for readers in each state in the future? One for ladies looking to meet some new people?
Seems like there are a lot of people looking for new people to hang with.
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Have you thought about doing MamaBake? I know it’s kinda housewifey, but it could be fun! I haven’t actually tried it yet, I just follow them on facebook and they’re hilarious!
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I think I can get along with most women- just writing people off as having nothing in common seems a bit silly.
I find you can relate to most people about something if you try. You need to give people a bit more of a chance. Having friends who are different fro. You can be fun as you learn from each other.
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It’s OK. According to females, females are experts at relationships and females are naturally nurturing with a natural urge to merge. So just front any female and you will have an instant friend who supports and cares for you.
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I dont think it is Sydney per se that is the problem, just the isolation of life in a big city and the isolation on ecan experience when becoming a parent. I’m from Sydney, but I never made any friends at high school that became BFF…well, not entirely true, but each time I had a bestie she would move away ( one got sucked into a sad life of drugs and all that goes with that, and others simply left before the HSC, leaving me almost destitute).
I am happily married with two teenaged girls, and I still find the friendships I make quite ephemeral. I made some nice freinds when my girls were in primary school, but we then moved about two suburbs away and I now see them less and less, unfortunartely I am alwys the one organising our coffee mornings ( why cant they do it for once??)…I think it is the times we live in, sadly “out of mind, out if sight”. A word of warning : the primary school playground can be a real jungle, with women becoming possesive with other women, and to hear someone boast about which BBQ they got invited to( and I did not) still sickens me.
Mothers’ groups take time..one lady did mention swapping groups, and that is a fair comment. The first one I went to involved everyone comparing their flat tummies and what size jeans they were wearing. I swapped to another suburb, and I will say at first I thought we would not gel, all such different people, but, as so many of us relied on the friendships, it worked.
We have now morphed into a book club, and I can highly recommend it…make sure one of your rules is that you CAN talk about things other than the book ! I would say 90% of our talk is regarding things other than the book!! Apparently there are some bookclubs in which you may only talk about the book!!
I am now finding a lot of my isolation is due to the fact that i dont work.The few friends I have from high school all work, and I am going to scream the next time one of them asks me when I am going back to work. I dare not speak the truth, in that I do not need the $25 and hour ( and the stress that goes with it) that i would earn in a public hospital.
Oneof the sad things is that as I have chosen not to work, I am one of the women who makes it possible for their kids to learn to read at school !
I have met some lovely mums at my daughters’ high school, but I am very fearful that once my younger girls leaves school, that source of friendships will cease too.
In the meantime I pad out my time with voluntary work, but that can be lonely too, as I am often regarded as someone who is just a volunteer. Another way to meet people is through inexpensive courses at an evening college ( dont be fooled by the name, a lot of courses are run in the day time). Learn French, even if you dont intend to visit France, or how to paint..Tennis clinics can also be good, as are golf clinics.
I think women can be their own worst enemies…those early years it was a war between those of us who worked, and those who did not.
If you have a sister or a bestie, cherish her. I have a sister and we confide everything in each other,and I travel to her workplace to have lunch every few weeks. A bestie from uni lives close by, but she is too busy to meet up very often, with full time work and three little kids, one with special needs…but I just have to accept that one day we will get to spend more time together.
Someone mentioned your neighbourhood as a source of friends…can I suggest buying a dog ? I have my first ever dog, and, despite the hard work, ( twice daily walks) it is a conversation starter…as I said, my kids did not go to school in the suburb where I now live, so my puppy has helped me to meet new people. I have met people on the street, the local park etc, all people of different ages. How about inviting some neighbours over for a coffee morning ? You may be surprised that some of the older ladies may be flattered, and may even offer to babysit for you. You will be surprised to find that some of them did not get to become grandparents, or that distance or a divorce has meant they are estranged from their own grandkids…which is so very very sad. Heck, these ladies may even enjoy a wine with you !
I wish you all the luck, and remember, you only need one bestie to feel good.
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What a lovely response, filled with thoughtful ideas. All the best to you Tisha xx
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Thankyou Butteflies, like the Pantene shampoo ad says, it won’t happen overnight, but it will happen. There is a very good book I read a few years back on female friendship, by Rachael Oakes -Ash, called Anything She Can Do, I Can Do Better. Another good read for new mothers is The Mask of Motherhood by Susan Maushart. She discusses the isolation that mothers are faced with.
Please, to any of you who feel you are not coping, don’t ever forget there is a lot of support out there…if you are stuck, a good place to start is by chatting to your local doctor or clinic sister.
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That is so true about the school reading. The parents of a boy my son goes to school with only work part time so they often help out at school doing reading with the younger kids. They read with my son a few times a week. I even approached them for tips on helping him with his reading because they know better than I do where he is at. They put in a lot of hours and a lot of patience with the kids and it is often not recognized by other parents.
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It is nice that your recognise the help given by the stay-home parents. Just because we dont work does not mean we are air heads! Actually, i did work, but it was at night, so I had the days free, but people just assumed I was either a kept woman or an airhead.
People have different agendas, and some helped at school to try to get favors for their kids, eg an award at the end of the year, or a leadership role, it was at times disgusting. However, it was good to be able to teach my kids that eventually the children choose the school captain, and no surprises it was not the child of the bully mum.
Oh, and this same child did not get a place in the Opportunity Class; another good lesoon for the kids, that beauty or money did not count when it came to external examinations. It was a tough lesson at a young age, but one that I am sure will help in the future.
I only ever helped at school for the benefit of the kids,not for any thanks from other parents. Ahhh! as they say, sometimes the adults in the school playground makes workplace politics look like a walk in the park !
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Fab article – all v true – we join all the child friendly activities but forget that actually, we sometimes just want to sit with a glass of wine whilst the littlies are safely hanging out with their also newfound friends in the backyard or play room sans jumping castles, big red cars and conveniently placed ice cream chest that all require a slight hovering by us mums… I’ve been living in Castle Hill, Sydney for almost a year after having lived o/s(UK and South Africa) for 8 years. We relocated back to Sydney but new area to have our little one and “settle down” – however, I’m not quite willing to give up the grown up conversation with wine and cheese just yet as we chat about everyday life and what we’re planning for the years ahead of us. Give me a shout out if you fancy a (hot) coffee and catchup.
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Hey Bex, Ive been developing this website friendme.ning.com/ which is like a RSVP for friends. Would you be willing to give it a trial?
Cheers,
Lucy
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I tend to agree! But does this have to be limited to people with children?
I am 30 as well, and didn’t grow up here in Sydney. I still struggle to make new friends, and have often wondered how else can you manage it, if you’re not meeting them through work or friends of friends?
Glad to see I’m not the only one feeling this way!
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Hi Leah, nope not just limited to people with kids, generally ages from 21-39 and will tweak the site so you can find people in similar situations to your own.
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Just in regards to my last comment – I have started working on a page http://friendme.ning.com/ for this purpose of social networking for people who are struggling to find friends, starting as a sydney based network, so if anyone wants to sign up and give it a go that would be great
I’ll try and make it as easy to use as possible like Facebook.
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Hey everyone,
Ive been reading everyones comments and wondering if there actually was a site like RSVP but for making friends, whether this would be something you would use? Also would you prefer to meet for one on one meet ups or more interested in group meet ups.
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http://www.meetup.com i believe is a “friend” RSVP site!
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as they’ve started charging higher fees a lot of groups have unfortunately had no choice to move off that platform however. Boo.
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ironically it’s much easier when you travel on your own. When you’re in a couple or relationship people feel like they’re respecting your boundaries, but when you’re on your own (even when you’re in a relationship, just travelling by yourself) you’re much more open to new people and experiences, and people pick up on and respond to that.
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Oh it is like you are reading my mind. I have lived in Sydney for over 5 years but have struggled to make close friends. I am now at the stage where I have some girlfriends through work where we will catch up for lunch/coffee etc but none of them are close like my besties back in my home town. When I had my son this year my Mum was able to stay for 2 weeks. The day after she let I cried all day as I had this brand new baby and had never felt so isolated. I pulled myself together and accepted that my husband had to go to work but it was really hard. There are still hard days but I am doing my best. Mothers group has one more week to go and I am trying my best to talk to everyone and find something in common. It is funny as you walk past the park and there are a lot of Mums there but my son is still not old enough for swings etc so i feel too shy to stop and say hi. So for now I do my best to keep in touch with other mums I know through work and say hi to the postman and look forward to my husband getting home at 6pm
Oh and thank goodness for Skype it has saved my sanity on many occasions.
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Hi Emma,
Totally agree with your post, I have been living in Sydney’s east for four years and 12mths ago I had my son. Lots of my married/child friends have recently moved up to Bris or overseas and although having a few mothers group friends and many single & fun friends I would love a like minded person to kick around with during the day, and not to talk babies!!
I think some of the ladies commenting on the post are missing the point, i’m sure Emma has good social skills and knows how to initiate conversations- it’s all about having something in common with these people!
Would love to volunteer for a RSVP type date if you’re in Sydney’s east! Xx
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Emma, you sound like my kind of gal. I had a baby 4 months ago and have never really had a tight group of friends. I found that I was always the chaser, chasing them for catch ups and going to their house etc. once I met my now fiancé and stopped chasing them suprise suprise I never heard from any of them. I thought having a baby might change things but again I’m the chaser and get nothing in return.
It’s a pity your in Sydney, you sound like my type of girl.. Wine catch ups and lots of laughs. I hope your doing better now, your little man is a spunk :0)
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Hi there! After moving 3 times in 5 years with little kids, trying to make new friends can be hard. Things that have worked for me were joining an outdoor training group or gym with a crèche. I would chat away to most women until I found someone I clicked with.
When they were babies, joining a neighbors play-group was so helpful and I met some great people.
I also put a note in my son’s friends kinder pocket, saying a I was new in the suburb and wanting to network/meet other parents and did our boys want to have a play? It worked really well!!
It takes courage and chutzpah, but sporting/ work networks and even a good Maternal Health Centre are good places to start.
Best of luck xxx
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I feel your pain !! Because of my husbands job, we have relocated from Sydney to Newcastle, Newcastle to Adelaide and then Adelaide to the Gold Coast all within 8 years. Each time I have had to start over again with friends, new schools and activities for kids and all with a husband that is homesick for his nativeland – UK. It is hard work to make new friends, but it is always worth the effort. I find that “I” makes lots of future lunch dates, and have also organised a few neighbourhood bbq’s at our place to perhaps encourage reciprocal invitations … will keep you posted
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I moved to Brisbane from overseas about 9 years ago and found it really hard to meet other people. This was a bit of a shock after being an expat where meeting people was easy and instant in the country we lived in – you’d meet people in the morning and be going out for dinner that night.
But here lots of people seemed to meet others through school but that didn’t work out for me – just because the kids like each other doesn’t necessarily mean the parents will! It wasn’t until I started joining a running group (early mornings before kids wake up) that I met several people I looked forward to seeing and wanted to spend time with. A friend and I started a book club which is more like a book library – we meet every 4-6 weeks and swap books – and that has helped too. And the other thing I did was join Toastmasters because I wanted to improve my public speaking skills and that’s meant meeting a whole other group of people.
Not saying you have to do any of those things in particular but finding things that you’re interested in and then seeing if you can find or create a group around them could be a good start to meeting people you connect with.
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I feel very sad reading these stories on this site. I am a 39 year old woman, married with 2 primary school children. I keep in touch with my heaps of high school friends, my old work friends, new friends I met in my 20′s and 30′s and new friends from the primary school. I appreciate them all and different circles catch up often. and could never take for granted… I just dont understand how you can go through life not having friends or struggling to meet them.
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You are so not alone Emma. Thanks for hitting the nail on the head. We moved to a regional Qld town of about 150,000 people, but I still struggle to find normal women to have a coffee/wine with, who are mature and confident and funny. Is that really a big ask? maybe it is. Another big ask – a couple who live in our suburb who want to have a beer with my husband and I on a Sunday arvo. That would bliss!
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It makes me sad to see all the people bagging Sydney! We can be a lovely bunch of people, I swear. Maybe you haven’t found the right group to join?
The trouble is that you want to find people who have something in common with you. And unless you have a hobby, which instantly gives you a group of people with commonality, it can be hard to find.
Finding friends as an adult can be hard anywhere. The 7 months I spent in France a few years ago were some of the loneliest of my life – you think Sydney’s hard, try cracking French society!
MM is quite the community – why don’t people use it to organise some get-togethers? I think we’ve seen enough comments to suggest there is a need.
And stop automatically bagging Sydney please – plenty of us are friendly here, you just haven’t found us yet.
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I hear you Emma, it can be hard. I think your biggest problem is probably that you live in Sydney. I lived there for three years before I had a baby and found it near impossible to make friends. Back in Adelaide and I have a whole circle of new friends with babies AND similar interests. Sydney is tough.
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I don’t know where in Sydney you are based, but I find that in the inner west, because people do not have backyards, they use the local park. A lot. And it always seems to be the same people at the park at the same time, so perhaps that could be a way of meeting people? make a daily park date at the same time each day. I’m too shy to speak to strangers, but it seems as though you aren’t. Enmore Park and Camperdown memorial rest park are biggies, but pretty much every decent park seems packed with mums and kids. In other areas of sydney I’m not sure that it would be the same though. A friend recently moved to another city and found the parks empty because everyone has yards. It was a bit of a shock for her
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Does anyone on MM live around Traralgon? I moved from Dandenong Ranges down this way a few years ago and its so hard to break into a country area where everyone seems to have known each other since birth.
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You’re not alone, thanks so much for writing this post! Its spot on xx
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Sorry folks for posting a pic of my dog! I thought it was uploading as a profile pic. Oooops!
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I thought the same and got a shot when my face came up covering the whole screen! lol
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Hi Emma
I say, stay local. Start stalking the parks & shops where you live. Your little man will (nearly) be old enough to sit on the swings and you will meet other mums there. I know you mentioned playgroup already and thats another good forum for meeting people.
I actually met some mums at our local pub too (I know I know!) but our pub has a beer garden and kid friendly area and why not let the babies play whilst you enjoy a well deserved vino!
Now that my big one (5yo) has started school, I’ve met some lovely mums through that but thats obviously, a few years off for you.
Hang in there, making new friends takes some time and just like finding Mr Right, you may have to kiss many frogs to find your prince.
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I have joined many mothers groups. I socialized once with a new mom outside of the group. We just didn’t ‘click.’ Every time I attend baby social groups all the other moms seem to already know each other! I am finding it very difficult to make new mom friends. I was beginning to wonder if there was something wrong with my personality…
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