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“I had an abortion. In fact I had two. Not very many people know this, even though I am very open about my life and share everything with my girlfriends. Except this. While we can discuss birth stories and sex stories and Botox and drugs and eating disorders and pretty much anything else with each other, the subject of abortions remain secret.

I never really questioned this until I read Caitlin Moran’s book Horecently (after reading about it here on Mamamia last year actually!) where she has a chapter detailing her own abortion. It’s a really interesting read and it made me think about my own situation in a new way. In one part, Moran writes:

Caitlin Moran I had an abortion

Caitlin Moran

Women- always loath to talk about the more visceral elements of female reproductive physicality – are too ashamed, or unconfident in their reception, to discuss their terminations, even with friends or partners. This brings about the curious situation in which. while pretty much everyone must have someone dear to them who has had an abortion, the chances of them actually discussing it with their more conservative elders, or menfolk, are remote.

Consequently, we have a climate where anti-abortionists can discuss abortion as something that ‘they’ do, over ‘there’, rather than the reality – that it, has, in all likelihood, been a calm, rational, well-thought out act, which has statistically occurred very close to home.

When I wrote about my decision to have an abortion in The Times, I was amazed at the reader-response – more than 400 online comments, and over 100 letters and emails. By a rule of thumb, those who were anti abortion cited no experience of pregnancy or abortion, while those who were pro-abortion, did.

My story is similar and different to Caitlin. Similar in that I don’t regret either of my abortions. Not in the least. I was young, far from ready to be a mother and the guys I was with were idiots. The kind of idiots  you invariably date when you’re young and working out what you want in a partner.

So in that way, my abortions were different to Caitlin’s. She was pregnant for the third time to her husband. They already had two kids and she was done. The two times I fell pregnant and terminated, I hadn’t even begun my family, hadn’t met my husband. Still, I knew even then that I did not want to be connected to my then boyfriends forever. Not in the way I would be if I were to have a baby with them.

In both cases – they were a few years apart in my early twenties – I had just started my career and my relationship was in an early stage. Once, I was careless with contraception, thinking that withdrawal was a pretty good form of protection. The other time, the condom broke and for reasons I can no longer remember, I didn’t get the morning after pill.

When I saw those double pink lines on the pregnancy tests, I knew straight away in my heart how it was going to end. Sure, a small part of me fantasised about having a baby back then but common sense won out. The guys I was with were not ready to be fathers. I wasn’t ready to be a Mum. Still, I was a bit sad and quite hormonal.

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The first time, I went to a clinic and it was over in a couple of hours including waiting and recovery time. I cried a bit afterwards for what could have been. I didn’t skip into the clinic and I didn’t skip out. It was something unpleasant and unfortunate that I had to deal with. I told my mum. I told my best friend. And that was it. Unlike pretty much any other life event, it’s not exactly something you put on  your Facebook page, is it? Even if Facebook HAD been around back then.

 

 

 

The second time was almost exactly the same. Another pretty crappy relationship although it was too early for me to know that for sure. Still, I suspected it and when I found out I was pregnant after the condom broke, I only briefly flirted with the idea of having that baby.

I went to see my gyno and he did the procedure for me in a day surgery. He was also an obstetrician and went on to deliver my two babies. Not for a moment did I ever feel judged by him – or anyone except possibly myself. There was so much shame around it – I think because of the secrecy.

There’s nothing else in a woman’s life she doesn’t share with her girlfriends. That’s what we do, right? We process things – happy, sad and confusing – by workshopping them and sharing our stories with each other. So why not abortions?

Is it because of the stigma anti-abortionists try to place on women? Well it seems to be working. Because this part of our lives is absent from the public conversation, it’s pushed further underground and further stigmatised as if it’s some kind of crime (it’s not) or the ultimate betrayal of being a woman. Celebrities and women in the public eye confess to everything – mental illness, depression, post natal depression, miscarriage, infertility, STDs, plastic surgery, infidelity – but never abortions. Can you think of a single woman who has come out and said “I had an abortion”? I can’t.

You just don’t see it in the Women’s Weekly. It’s not even mentioned in passing. It’s taboo.

And yet the statistics show that an average of 75 000 women in Australia have them every year. So we MUST all know women who have had them. If you haven’t had one, you’ll know someone – maybe lots of women – who have. Even if you don’t know that they have.

And the idea that it’s reckless teenagers and drunk young women getting pregnant and then casually aborting doesn’t bear truth either. Go to your nearest shopping centre or supermarket and look at the women. They’re the kind of women having abortions – teens, 20s, 30s, 40s. Single women, married women, mothers. Some of them will regret their decision. Many many will not. I don’t. Not for a moment.

I shudder to think what would have happened to my life if I’d had either of those babies. I’d be shackled to those men forever – even if our relationship broke down (which it invariably would have because they were useless), we would have forever been connected by a shared child.

My career would have been derailed, along with my life. It just wasn’t the right time and any child brought into that situation would have borne the stress of a desperately stressed, unhappy mother and a father who was useless and probably absent.

Do I think about those babies and what could have been? Not really. Not anymore. And if I do, it’s only with relief when I consider still having anything to do with those ex-boyfriends. So I don’t really think about those babies. I don’t even think of them as babies. Yes, I’ve had an abortion – twice -  and it was OK.

And I believe that as women – even if it’s anonymously, we should share our stories. To normalise them and the experience of abortion – I don’t mean that in the sense that it should be seen as something simple or fun or desirable. That’s never going to happen. Just so that women can read about abortions and other women’s experiences and not feel ashamed or alone.”

Here is a gallery of women who have had abortions; taken from the women on web website which aims to break the silence around abortions and show the faces of women who have had them, regardless of the reasons behind them.

Camille

Do you have a story to share? Do you know someone who has had an abortion? Have you? Will you share it in the comments to show that women who have abortions are just like the women you see in the street or the supermarket – normal, average people with nothing to be ashamed of.

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    b

    I grew up in a country where abortion is illegal and having a child outside of marriage is very very bad. Even living with your partner or the idea of sex outside of marriage is very very bad. Being a virgin? Very very good. For some reason people are just supposed to keep their hands off each other and then when they get married have sex so they can have a baby. In high school a priest told me that God gave us sex so we can have babies, not so we can feel good. That sex feels good is a massive bonus. What a load of bollocks.

    Six years ago I moved to Australia. Five years ago I had sex for the first time with a boy I barely knew, not because I was in love with him but because I was over the mystery. I just wanted to get it over with. A few months later I was dating a boy I knew wasn’t right for me, and I had a pregnancy scare. Because of my upbringing I never thought I would even be in a position where I would have to contemplate abortion. Unusually for my country I am pro-choice (have been for a long time) but I just never thought I would have to be pro-choice for me. There was definitely no future with this man, I was just finishing my masters degree (which I had moved here for) and having his baby would have been the worst thing that could have happened to either of us. So if I had been pregnant, I would have had to have an abortion. I wasn’t pregnant in the end, but being pro-choice stopped being an idea. It was real. And I am still pro-choice.

    My goddaughter was born two years ago. Her parents knew she had down syndrome before she was born. At three months she had surgery because they found three holes in her heart. In October she was diagnosed with leukaemia. She has spent the last few months in hospital, including Christmas and New Year. It was especially heartbreaking because she was very sick and her family couldn’t come into her room or touch her. Her older sister didn’t have a mummy for Christmas because her baby sister was ill.

    My goddaughter is the most adorable baby and I love her very very much. But because of her and what her family has been through, I will have the tests done when (if) I become pregnant. And if I find out that my darling baby has DS, I will have the pregnancy terminated. Even if my entire life all I’ve ever wanted to be is a mum.

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      Downs Babies

      I get where you’re coming from but I’m also a little perplexed by the sheer terror that faces people when they learn there is a chance their child has Down’s. I know there are some critical cases in which the child encounters lots of complications but a Down’s person can also live a fulfilling life – and I have met a lot of Down’s people in my time and they are often the happiest and most genuine people you could have the pleasure of knowing.

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        Nicki

        I can understand the sheer terror you speak of. Some cases are more critical than others, as you say. So, without knowing exactly how critical the situation will be, my first thought would be “OMG! Who will look after my child when I die?”.

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        rhianna

        And not just Downs! :) My SIL is a ‘one in 7 billion’ and we are so lucky to have her in our family… but we know how hard it is to work/live with her – we are just very lucky that her Mum (and the rest of her family) are ‘one in 7 billion’ too!
        But it is such a horrible thought for us to think to her future once her Mum is gone… one of the clients at ACTIV has recently lost her dad and her mum is late 70s and really struggling to look after her.
        They make the world amazing but can be amazingly difficult… but we wouldn’t change her for the world! xxx

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    Kateateight

    I had one.

    I haven’t ever regretted it. I was 19, and while I loved my partner, I did NOT want a baby. No other excuse – I’m sure I could have somehow made it work if I wanted to, but the bottom line is – I didn’t want a baby. So I didn’t have it.

    How did I end up pregnant – idiocy, I guess. Just not careful enough.

    If someone asked me when life starts – I would probably say at conception – because I think that is when it literally does.

    So – I agree that my abortion did kill a baby. But – I still don’t regret it and I don’t feel an iota of guilt.

    If I ever got in the situation again (although I can’t imagine, as I am super careful now), I would do it again.

    If a pro-life person said to me “life begins at conception, you’re murdering your baby” – I wouldn’t be able to argue with that – I think it’s true. I have no excuses, and no rationalisation.

    But I would still do it.

    I worry my attitude to this makes me a psycho – but what is more worrying is that it doesn’t worry me that much.

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      anonymous

      I am married with the worlds most wonderful husband (in my opinion) we are financially stable, have a house suitable for raising children but if we got pregnant now I would have an abortion. I also just dont want a child right now and dont think I would feel guilty either.

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        Kateateight

        Thanks for posting that – it is good to know I’m not the only one!

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      Ellie

      I agree with you. We don’t need to be arguing when life begins, we need to be arguing which life is worth more at that moment in time. I am 19 at the moment, and if I were to fall pregnant, the answer for me would be “my life is more important”. My education is more important, my dreams to travel and work are more important, my need to love someone unconditionally before I have a child is more important.

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      mo5

      I agree, there is no argument about when life begins. How lucky are you to have been able to make the choice and have no repercussions? Plus I commend you on admitting you have no guilt, at this stage it seems others are only sympathetic if you admit to this. I also felt no guilt whatsoever and I am sure we are not alone!

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      Nicole

      Oh my. Ditto, ditto, ditto.
      You sum up my attitude exactly.

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    LKW

    My two best friends have had abortions, many years ago when we were in our late teens. Both took their decisions seriously and both were not ready to become mothers.
    I have two sons, and had my firs ever pregnancy scare when my youngest was 5 months old, so I would potentially have 3 under 3years and I considered an abortion. I wasn’t pregnant but I’m certainly pro-abortion. It’s very personal choice.

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    Anonymous

    Anonymous, I have my opinions about abortions and the women that have them, but this comment is not about my opinions. I just wanted to say thank you for submitting a post that would have been very difficult and for shedding some light and insight into these kinds of experiences and the reality of them. You’re right, with the kind of statistics you quoted, we encounter women who have had abortions a lot more than we realise.

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    Monnie

    I’m really hesitant to comment as I don’t want to inadvertentedly hurt others but I’m also hesitant to remain silent. Can I be honest and just say that I personally struggle with abortion. In saying that, I’m saddened that it looks like I’m not being supportive of others and their choices they have made…I am appalled at the cruel tactics of the pro life movement…but I also struggle with the pro choice stance of self righteousness. I guess I just can’t get past the sadness of a life that won’t be lived. Please don’t see this as an attempt to press people’s guilt buttons…it’s not. But I do feel for those who are gone. That doesn’t mean abortion should be done in backyard clinics…it should be safe. Ultimately, I guess it’s a tough, complex and sad issue which hasn’t been helped by the ‘either you’re for it or against it” mentality.

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      Anon

      Monnie, I think I’m in the same boat as you on this topic and I think you have expressed your thoughts very respectfully. I think women should have access to safe abortions, and I don’t condemn anyone who has had an abortion, but it still makes me sad to think of the lives that didn’t come to be.

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      Teach

      Oh I agree Monnie! I struggle with this issue to.
      This feeling has only gotten stronger since seeing scans of my babies in utero.
      I would never take away another womans right to do what she wants with her body.
      But my heart aches when I hear about mothers aborting their babies. It’s just so sad.

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      Anonymous

      Same here Monnie. I have friends that have & while I’ve never voiced my opinion to them I just can’t understand how someone could do it. Why does adoption never seem to factor in to the decision? (in the case of people I know) I have been faced with a near unplanned pregnancy after having cancer treatment & not being able to be on contraception, but I can honestly say abortion never entered my head. My heart goes out to those lives lost I’m afraid.

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      Sigh

      Oh Monnie you have said beautifully what I struggle with. I once had a pregnant scare and it was false. It completely freaked me out but I couldn’t compare my fear to a life, I just couldn’t. I did feel such relief when all was ok. In saying that I had a friend who was extra fertile and kept falling pregnant while on contraception. She was being careful and yet still was pregnant and had to face this horrible problem. Her poor broken heart! It definitely is personal and really scary no matter what. For those who do choose life though, I wish there was much more support for both the bin and mum!

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      Lara

      You know, I think you’re supposed to be conflicted. It’s not meant to be an easy choice, but it does need to be a choice that we each have control over for ourselves and given our own personal situations at any given time, free of judgement.
      I can not imagine anything more traumatic than someone who doesn’t want to (for whatever reason) being forced to carry a child that they didn’t want or couldn’t love

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    Symantha

    All my friends except one have had abortions. My mother had an abortion before she had us kids. My sisters have had abortions. My grandmother probably would have liked to have had an abortion – she had 8 children.

    Why are our stories so secret and taboo? Great post. Thank you Mamamia.

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    Susan

    As a social worker, I have supported many people before, during and after the process. One thing I’ve learnt is that there is no one way that people cope. There are great societial expectations about how to act/ feel after the process.
    Some people feel relieved. Some people feel an overwhelming sense of grief.
    There is no correct way to feel…

    I’ve also been on the recieving end of some pretty vicious protesters when I supported someone at the Pregnancy Advisory Centre. Wow, that was fun!

    One of the most surprising things I found out is that the average age is about 26 (I think this is right?). Just because you’re older, doesn’t mean that you are in a good position to raise a child.

    I’m not a religious person but I do think “there but for the grace of god, go I “

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      Anna

      I agree. I also think you’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t. I have never had an abortion but I think having an unplanned pregnancy in circumstances where I would not be prepared to have a baby would be horrible. The decision to abort or the decision to keep the baby would be bad either way.

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    going to go anon

    I had an abortion. I was seventeen and pretty much in a new relationship when I discovered how violent my then boyfriend was. I ended the relationship before finding out I was pregnant.

    I didn’t have the child because I knew that if I did the child’s father would be forever in my life as he would have the right to be a part of his child’s life. Also my family is Czech and my father would never have allowed my mother to give me any support if I became an unmarried mother. As I was growing up my father would always tell me that if I ever got pregnant I needn’t think that I could bring the bustard home. I didn’t think that I could manage on my own with a child.

    Since then I’ve married and had two wonderful children and though sometimes I wonder what my ‘first’ child may have been like I have no regrets that I didn’t proceed with the pregnancy. After I had my abortion all I felt was relief.

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    Anon

    My Mum had an abortion before she had me. She was using an IUD which in the 70′s did fail and then often led to birth defects. Dad wasn’t ready for a baby, let alone one that had a high liklihood of disability. In fact at that stage he didn’t want kids at all. They were young, they weren’t ready. Mum absolutely says it was the right decision, more than likely their marriage would not have survived having a child with a serious disability and there is no way Mum could have carried a baby and then given them up for adoption.

    Not many people know about Mum. In fact I’m not sure if even my sister knows. But it shouldn’t be shameful, it was a considered decision taken in light of a set of circumstances.

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    Freda

    I got pregnant at the end of my degree, before I even had a job lined up, having been with my (non-live in) partner less than a year. I didn’t plan to have kids at all, really, and it felt totally out of the blue when I went to the doctor with a ‘persistent virus’ and was told I was pregnant. I burst into tears out of shock, and the doctor raised the option of a termination.
    I didn’t go down that road in the end. My son is 10 now, he has a brother, my partner and I are married, and my career aspirations still wait as my qualifications are in a very non-flexible area. Instead I’ve been doing various part-time jobs and volunteering at school. Living a very different life to the one I had in mind.
    Sometimes when discussions about female reproductive choices come up I feel judged for the choice I made.

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    TooChicken

    I’ve had three. Feel like an idiot saying it. Stupid mistake when I was 16 (thank goodness I had SOME sense back then). And then I was trying different contraceptive pills in my early twenties but they made me either sick or I would forget to take the milder one at exactly the right time so wound up pregnant again a couple of times to my now hubby. (Implanon saved me after that)
    I dont regret any of them (because I wouldnt be where I am now) but they were all horrible experiences, particularly the last one as I would have had it if my partner had been keen, but he wasnt and I didnt want to have a baby with someone who didnt want it as much as me. It really made me question the relationship though and spun me into a bit of depression but we made it back from the brink and went on to get married and be better than ever. We now have one child and will probably have another.
    Getting pregnant and having a healthy baby was such a relief to me…I am not a religious person…but in the end I felt like I had thrown away my chances and I didnt “deserve” to have children. Especially when people are struggling…with IVF…desperately trying, it made me feel very guilty that the universe had given me these things and I had knocked it back. Does that make sense?

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      Anon

      I completely understand! I have felt & continue to feel, exactly the same way…Now that I am ready to & want to have a baby I fear “Karma” may say you’ve had your chances so too bad – I guess time will tell. Thanks for sharing ur post!!

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        Complicated

        I completely understand this feeling. I know it’s irrational, but I can’t make it go away. I’ve had two healthy beautiful children and two abortions since. Now I want another baby…. But feel I don’t “deserve” it.

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    Butler Did It

    Wonderful story. I am passing it onto all my girlfriends now, I only know of one that has had one, and like the writer does not regret it at all.

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    RobE

    I haven’t had an abortion. I’m not pro or anti-abortion, I know that it happens, most of the time for good reasons. I’d like to say I would never have one, but who can know that for sure? If I’d gotten pregnant as a teenager, or even in my very early twenties before I met my now-husband, I don’t know how I would have reacted.

    But I have been affected by abortion. My mother confessed to me that she had one years ago, when I was in my mid-teens. We only ever spoke about it once, and I could see the guilt she carried, so I’ve never brought it up again. Her grandmother was dying at the time, and this was the woman who basically raised her, her own mother essentially useless at the task. My mother was the only person looking after her, and it was a time of great heartache and stress for her. It was just the worst possible time to accidentally fall pregnant, long after her two planned children had started high school. I was shocked when she told me, but had only sympathy, no judgement.

    Then, almost exactly two years ago, when I was pregnant with my own son, my younger brother called to tell me that his girlfriend of three months was pregnant. They were very unlucky. They had used a condom. And a morning after pill when she was worried. Must be very fertile! I was about 30 weeks pregnant at the time, and didn’t know what to say. I knew, really, what the outcome would be. He was 23, she only just 22, neither of them anywhere near ready to be parents. She came from a background where a pregnancy outside of marriage would not be accepted. She never told her family about the pregnancy or termination. I was more concerned for my brother, as I had barely gotten to know his girlfriend. She was sweet, but flaky. I supported their decision only because I knew it was right. As a hormonal pregnant woman myself, I struggled with it, and I still sometimes think about the baby who could have been a little cousin for my son, but there’s really no point dwelling on that. The one thing that made me angry was that she let my brother pay for the procedure, at a time in his life when he had little income and no savings. I believe they should’ve gone halves, but that’s a whole other argument!

    Thinking of all you ladies who have gone through this, stay strong!

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    MissT

    I couldn’t have an abortion, even if I had gotten pregnant as a teen, I’ve always wanted a child too much. But I strongly strongly believe abortions must be legal, must be safe. As the daughter of a midwife and nurse, a midwife who practiced when abortions were not legal, and not safe. Who saw women die from attempting it themselves at home, or at a backyard clinic. I have never for one moment believed that abortions could be outlawed.

    I do know women who have had abortions. Those who do, have their reasons, I don’t think it’s anyone’s place to judge them.

    Remember watching a Sex & The City episode about abortions (Miranda is considering one) where Sam admits to having 2, Carrie to 1. I really appreciated that episode, it broke barriers.

    Lately I have been thinking a lot about getting pregnant, as that’s something that will hopefully be coming up in a couple of years for me and quite a few of my friends. One of my best friends & I were talking about it and both our husbands have told us not to tell anyone we’re pregnant until 12 weeks in case something happens. Not even each other.

    I debate that – if something happened, I would want my friends there for me. If I miscarried, I would want people to know, to support me. Not everyone, but my closest friends. I wouldn’t want to keep it inside.

    The only reason I would keep it a secret is because of abortion, because if my child came back with a positive result for Down Syndrome, and I chose to terminate (I don’t know what I’d do), I think I wouldn’t want anyone to know. It would carry too much guilt, and I haven’t decided yet if that’s society’s problem, or mine.

    I’d like for people to be able to talk about abortions. I’d specifically like for people to talk about having chosen to terminate a baby due to that genetic test.

    Has anyone been through that they could share?

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      LittleMissChloe

      My husband and I are going to start trying for babies soon and I was talking to my Dad about not telling people until 12 weeks and he had some wise words “Tell the people you will want to be there for you if something does go wrong”

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      MummyMoo

      MissT, I wanted to respond to your query re terminating due to abnormality. My history is broad: abortion (father was then new boyfriend, now husband), and then many years later a stillbirth (8th month), miscarriage, miscarriage, healthy baby, healthy baby. When our son died and we were dealing with all that grief, there were couples we met who had terminated after the 18-week scan and I think for them it was a real middle ground, between the invisible first trimester abortions and the publicly apparent last trimester stillbirths. The women – couples – we know who had a diagnostically based termination felt a mixture of “it’s too much, we can’t do this, it makes me sad but this is the right decision” and “Oh my god I can’t breathe my baby is dead”. I think it’s hard for them because they have the shame of having an abortion and they have their grief dismissed because it was “right” or “not a real baby”, yet they are halfway through and have often already named the baby, put in applications for maternity leave etc.

      When I was pregnant with my healthy children, my husband and I discussed what we would do if we had another stillbirth, and our decisions were that we would deal with it differently in terms of rituals etc than we had with our son, not because we regretted those decisions – we absolutely don’t and never have – but because at that time and that place, that was what we needed to do. And I think that really is the take-home message about all of these decisions we make as women and couples and parents.

      In general, my experience tells me that any pregnancy issue – infertility, abortion, miscarriage, stillbirth, home birth, c-section, breast feeding, controlled crying, private schools, home schooling – is subject to the rule that while you might look back and think you would like to have done things differently, in general we do what we need to do at the time. And that’s not only ok, but it’s good, and right, and ours.

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      Bryter

      I think it’s a very personal decision whether to tell close friends or not before the 12 week scan. I did and to be honest, I wish I hadn’t. Pregnancy is LONG. And if people know from week 3, 4, 5, it just makes the 9/10 months seem longer. Take those first 12 weeks and enjoy the secret as a couple.

      If you do lose the baby before 12 weeks (which is not uncommon), you do not know how you will react. Perhaps you will want the support of your friends immediately. Perhaps you won’t. Some of my friends have had first term miscarriages and have only told me a month or two after they have processed the grief themselves. Other friends have told me when they’re pregnant at five weeks and have sadly lost the baby before the 12 week mark. They then wished they hadn’t told anyone as they want privacy and space to grieve. Every circumstance and every one is different.

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        Zoe

        I agree, I told everyone when I first found out, and while our baby is healthy and gorgeous I am definitely going to wait next time – mostly because it was way too long with everyone knowing from five weeks along! If I don’t tell people until 12 weeks or so along, I will only have to deal with constant queries for five or six months.

        Also, a few friends have spoken about their miscarriages since my daughter was born which has made it more real for me, and I understand the theory that you would want people to be there for you, but I’d rather decide if it happened who I wanted to tell, if anyone.

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      Rhianna

      Hey MissT,
      My beautiful MIL had severe bleeding throughout her 2nd pregnancy and as a nurse (in the early 80′s), she was told to stay horizontal if she wanted to keep the baby (for nearly 6 months!). She did so, and out popped my beautiful, amazing and severely disabled sister in law. Now she says that she would never have changed her decision and couldn’t have considered a termination.
      BUT (and this is where this comment becomes slightly more relevant to your question), my hubby and I are now having a baby – and we’ve decided to keep it very quiet until we can be assured we’re not in the same situation (although geneticists have assured us she’s one in 7 billion!). We’ve had the first scans (all good so far) and the 18 week one happens in mid-March – that’s probably when we’ll tell the world at large!
      It really needs to be your own decision, if you’ve got any concerns then it doesn’t take much to just pass off morning sickness as a tummy bug, weight gain as ‘Christmas leftovers’ and so on!! :)
      Sorry for the semi-irrelevance on the original article, but I will add I’m well and truly pro-choice but given the very special person in our family, disabilities just make the world more colourful. But then again, we are lucky in that we are in a position in our lives now that we’re looking forward to our new arrival no matter what and I feel so sympathetic for any girls and ladies (and their partners) who are in that situation. xxx

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    Hand up, I had one, and I was married at the time – but only just, 21 and just knew that we were not ready. The hardest bit was we were married – isnt that what a marriage was about essentially? Children and commitment?

    But I married young, determined not to have a family till much later – until I had grown up myself. We were poor too – pregnant because the trip to the Dr was going to take too much time and cash – but with great prospects, as long as I could keep working.

    But ultimately, in a quiet moment, I knew deep in my heart that the only reason I would keep that baby was because I was too scared not to. And that was not a good enough reason to start our family. But there was a lot of grief, and guilt associated that carried over the years, and I shared it with no one, other than my husband. To him, it was over that day (at least I assume so, there was little conversation). With me, it lingered on – ten year’s on, a miscarriage that bought to the surface the guilt and “Is this payback?” type feelings that I clearly were best dealt with before I actually had a child. And then, as I was pregnant with my first child, the dreaded amnio due to the 1:45 chance of downs syndrome – let’s just say I got to deal with all my deeply stored feelings in the three weeks of waiting for the results!

    I began to share – and I found other brave ladies that for various reasons had terminated their pregnancies. Now it is still not common knowledge, but it could very well be as quite a few people now know. But I am OK with that, I own my choice, and am just thankful I live in a place that I had that option open to me,

    I have two wonderful children, but I do also have a split marriage – and often I wonder how much impact that experience and the isolation I felt after it effected me and our relationship – quite a lot, I suspect. Something in me shut down – not because I doubted myself, but I think because of the shame and the secrecy.

    So, even now 20 years on from my own experience, it appears that little has changed. May I suggest, my lovely un-known friends, that if this is your story too, or you are contemplating your own choices right now, that you reach out to someone and share? Even the choices that you know are right for you can haunt if you don’t process one way or another.

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    anon

    I struggled with infertility for many, many years and for the longest time, faced a childless future. It was a desperate time for me.

    When my issues became public knowledge, people kept saying ‘You must HATE all those women who have abortions’.

    I never felt any animosity towards them. Just as my life wasn’t working out the way that I planned, I imagine being pregnant at an unwanted time would be equally as heartbreaking and difficult.

    I can only imagine the immense – I can’t phrase this the way I want – self-power and strength it must take to have a termination. How difficult it must be to walk into that clinic and make a decision of such strength, a decision that must resonate with you your whole life.

    I’m so grateful that we live in a country where safe, non-judgemental terminations can be carried out. Because I think we all know that regardless of rules, laws, judgement – there will always be a need for terminations and if someone can’t provide them safely, someone else will fill the void.

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      Susan

      Your compassion sounds boundless. It’s a beautiful thing. Don’t change.

      Thanks for sharing.

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      JL

      you are just an awesome human! I wish people would be as compassionate as you! Take care

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      Anonymous

      You have worded the strength that women must need to enter a clinic so beautifully.

      I have 2 children, one miscarriage and I have thankfully not had to have an abortion as I honestly don’t know what I would do.

      My two sisters both had abortions and both were too afraid at the time to tell me as I was already a mother. When they did I was just so devestated for them that they’d gone through it without me and how you worded how brave women are is exactly how I felt about them.

      I am 100% pro choice. I read on twitter an article that I think Catherine Moran put up that wrote about how important it is that abortions remain legal. It told of horrific stories of women dying and back yard clinics. As women we have to stick together and ensure that this never occurs again and not judge other women’s choices as who knows what we would do in the same shoes.

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    Kellys

    I have not had an abortion, but my mum had one when she fell pregnant with her fifth child unexpectedly. People would never imagine that my mum, who loves her four children and now my two children, would ever have had an abortion, but she had to make the right choice for her family and although I know she thinks about that baby, she has no regrets.

    To the surprise of many people I know, I feel more strongly about a woman’s right to choose since having my children than I did before. I believe that to force women to have babies that they are not ready for – in whatever way – is not right for the woman or for the child. I have also realised, since becoming a mother, that many women carry with them what is almost a hidden burden of loss and pain. Whether it be guilt or shame over terminating a pregnancy, the loss of a pregnancy, wanting a pregnancy, relationship issues, abuse or health concerns – the women I have developed friendships with since having my children have taught me so much about life and love and I admire them greatly.

    I think that the men in my life are great, but I have so much respect for the women who have to make tough choices and carry burdens that many men seem to be largely unaware of – or do not fully feel to the same extent.

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    odette

    Thank you for your article. I had a conversation with my mother just last weekend about abortion (I’m pro choice, by the way. I’ve not had an abortion and it’s unlikely now I’ll need one, but it’s not my place to tell other women what to do). Anyway, my mother pulled out the old chestnut of, “Oh, one of my girlfirends knows someone who is so blase about it, they say they’ve had three or four and that it’s just nothing.”

    I’d love to meet the woman who is so casual about it. Every single story I’ve ever read about abortion, every woman who I’ve spoken to about it, said that it was a very serious decision and they did not take it lightly. So who are these mythical women the anti abortionists drag out as examples?

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      Cait

      I hate to say it but i grew up with a girl who has had half a dozen of them. Shes in her 20s, doesnt ‘like’ hormonal contraceptives, and her douchebag boyfriend doesnt ‘like’ condoms. All other options are just ‘too hard’. They are also illicit drug dependant. They use their centrelink payments to fund the ‘trip’ to the clinic.

      She is incredibly blase about it. Unbelievably so. I respect a womans right to chose, and I’m personally glad that these people arent responsible for a child. After many years of hearing of their exploits and explosive tendancies, I have removed myself from their circle of friends.

      Blaze, or not, I’m still glad abortion is an option for women in Australia.

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      Serena

      I have an old work friend who has had 5. She hated condoms and hated that the pill made her gain weight (she was quite open with her weekend casual sex stories so the STD factor was a concern for me regarding the non condom issue). I am pro choice all the way and would never want anyone to carry any guilt associated with an abortion, but for some reason I can’t explain, her attitude towards abortions simply being a contraception option just never sat well with me. Maybe because I don’t think I could go through that myself 5 times. It’s such a complex topic.

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    Just

    Beautifully written. I had one when I was 19 and don’t regret it at all. Only a few friends know about it and it’s not something we discuss openly. I don’t feel particularly sad about it, I just think I’d feel judged sharing it with people I don’t know very well. But as you said, lots of women have gone through it so the fact we don’t talk about it is strange.

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    MBS

    Have not had one but I did have a fleeting period of considering it with my 3rd baby. Am very pleased I didn’t as deep down I wanted another baby but his conception took me by surprise. It was quite confronting to be considering whether to go ahead with a pregnancy but also made me realise how fortunate we are as women to be able to make those choices.

    I was intrigued also to read the chapter in Caitlin’s book about her abortion particularly when she was in a happy marriage with other children. I thought her honesty was so brave and compelling. It also prompted me to view abortion alot differently. It is a topic that can be surrounded by so much judgement.

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    Nadia

    The day people start supporting those like you who dont really remember why they didnt take the morning after pill or who thought the withdrawal method would be alright and turned to abortion as an answer will be a sad day for humanity indeed.

    What upsets me the most, is the seeming lack of emotion related to these terminations. You may not have been ready to be a mother but thousands out there were. I notice you didnt mention adoption but then that would have been a selfless act, a concept you are seemingly unfamiliar with.

    I am not anti-abortion but I am anti-stupidity. Abortion in extreme circumstances, after rape, to save the life of a mother, those things I understand. Being too lazy to properly prevent a pregnancy but turning to abortion as an answer, not once but twice – that I find hard to support and Ihope is never “normalised” as you suggested.

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      Anonymous

      Couldn’t have said it better myself!

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      Oh and there’s the judgement. Having an abortion after a mistake with contraception is not “stupid” it’s actually responsible, as bringing a child into the world you can’t guarantee a good life to is stupid. How many children are in terrible situations because their parents can’t look after them? Even giving a baby away doesn’t guarantee them a good life. Being brave enough to accept the fact you’re not ready and dealing with it is much better than having a child because you feel guilty.

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      Hey Nadia – but what is the alternative? Abortion is not possible for everyone – yes, it is a selfless act. Just like volunteering in an orphanage in a third world country is selfless and wonderful – but not something everyone can do.
      ‘Stupidity” is a pretty harsh way to describe accidental pregnancy.

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        Nadia

        Perhaps that should be made into a slogan – “Abortion, selfless and wonderful, just like volunteering in an orphanage in a third world country.” Is that really how you feel? I cant even begin to rationalise that kind of logic.

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      odette

      I agree with your sentiments that in an ideal world, abortions would not be necessary. However…anti stupidity means you’re also anti young person. Can you not remember being young and thinking that these things wouldn’t, couldn’t happen to you? I remember being 16 and being a bit unsafe with my boyfriend at the time (he’s now my husband), and thinking, “What if I’m pregnant?” But I didn’t go and seek a morning after pill. Why? Because I was young and invincible.

      Young people are often stupid. Some of them are more mature and would seek the morning after pill. But not all of them. And those ones should have a choice about their reproduction.

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        One Time

        Come on Nadia, have some sympathy for those women who have made choice you have clearly never had to make!

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          Anonymous

          Wow Nadia how lucky you must be to never have made a mistake. You sure you’re human??

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          I was 17 and pregnant. I gave my daughter life. I made sacrifices, I made her my priority, I worked and studied hard. I don’t believe “normalising” the use of abortion as delayed contraception is a healthy standard for society to accept. Young women need to know, you dont have sex unless you are ready for pregnancy. Sex can equal pregnancy. You can say that is unfair but that is biology. You spin that roulette table, you accept the risk.

          The woman who has written this article made her own choices which she has chosen to anonymously present on a public forum. I dont have sympathy for her. That doesnt mean I judge every woman who ever had an abortion, I most certainly do not. I was responding to a specific article, and a single womans motivation and choices. I want to make that, very clear.

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            Leydonne

            This kind of judgement doesn’t help anyone, it only serves to further push guilt. Having a daughter at 17 and making such changes to your life is an incredible achievment, yes, but I bet no one would be brave enough to tell you it was the wrong choice, and that you could have been happier. You’d be infuriated, wouldn’t you? My point is, it’s done. You aren’t asked for sympathy, only to be moved towards acceptance, in that not everyone would choose the same life path as you, and that our values differ significantly.

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        WillaWay

        Many many older women have abortions, it is not just a young woman’s thing. This is an issue throughout our reproductive life, and many of us will change opinions on it as we move through our own experiences and desires.

        All suppport to those women who have had to make that difficult choice, whichever outcome they chose, and who read harsh opinions on the story here today.

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          exactly – I was 29 and engaged. Not stupid, I was using a coil. Not all contraception is fool proof but now I don’t let my husband’s penis come anywhere near me without a condom on!

          I wish it didn’t turn out like that, but I have no regrets.

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        That’s quite a judgment you’re making that ‘anti stupidity means you’re also anti young person’. I remember being a young person but also being very responsible and not making ‘mistakes’. You are able to have an enjoyable youth without being stupid.

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          odette

          I guess you missed the bit where I said that some young people are more mature and would have sought out morning after pills. It was not a blanket statement that all young people are stupid. Not all young people are mature, either. In fact, I would say that the majority of young people would take unnecessary risks because they don’t think that bad things would happen to them. Or they fail to seek morning after pills or other advice because they’re young and embarrassed. I was in that same situation. So was my best friend, who ended up having her baby to a complete deadbeat dad because she didn’t go out to get the morning after pill.

          I was more offended by the idea that Nadia says she is pro choice, but then stipulates a list of conditions (rape, the mother’s health). Like I said originally: it would be ideal if there was no need for abortions at all. But there is. And I don’t want to judge people for having them, regardless of the mother’s situation or reasons.

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      cat

      I am not anti-abortion but I am anti-stupidity.

      Not only are you anti-choice, but you are also anti-women.

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        Anna

        how is she being anti-choice or anti-women? I don’t get that from Nadia’s response at all.

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          Restricting abortion rights (Nadia says she does not support abortion in any circumstances other than rape and to save the life of the woman) = anti-choice.

          Not supporting the right of a woman to do what she wants with her own body = anti-women.

          Also, she says she is anti-stupidity but she is inconsistent in her views. Either abortion is murder in all circumstances, or it is not murder in all circumstances. A foetus does not choose how it is conceived, so how can Nadia say that the ‘life’ of a “stupid” woman’s foetus is worth more, or should be ‘protected’ more than a foetus that is the product of rape?

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            cat

            Can’t edit, so cont. here.

            That is to say, why does a woman’s life matter more in one circumstance, but not in another?

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            Nadia

            I listed two examples, of which there are more, under which it is easier to understand why women have made the decision to abort that they have. I never suggested that we “restrict abortion rights.”

            I simply find it more offensive when women repeatedly fail to prevent pregnancy and choose to conclude it with an abortion. That said, they can choose and I support their right to choose. I just dont agree with it myself.

            I dont run around abusing people for having abortions. My best friend had an abortion. I supported her but she knows I would not do it and wish others didnt need/want or have to make that choice.

            To me repeatedly getting pregnant and solving it with abortion in general, is stupidity. If you feel it is intelligent, well you of course are entitled to that opinion.

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              How many people do you know that get knocked up and have abortions rather than use other contraception? A tiny tiny tiny minority of those of us who have had abortions, I’d wager.

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              The day people start supporting those like you who dont really remember why they didnt take the morning after pill or who thought the withdrawal method would be alright and turned to abortion as an answer will be a sad day for humanity indeed.

              they can choose and I support their right to choose.

              Nice backpedaling.

              And while you never explicitly said that you want to restrict abortion rights, your disapproval makes pretty clear that abortion is only valid, to you, in certain circumstances.

              I love how you think your proximity to a woman who has had an abortion is justification for your judgement and shaming of women. With friends like you, who needs enemies?

              Nobody wants a woman to have an unwanted pregnancy — in a perfect world, contraception would be infallible and rape and incest would not exist. The reality is women do have unexpected pregnancies and they deserve the right to do what they want with their own bodies.

              P.S. Nice little passive aggressive dig at me in your last paragraph, unfortunately all it shows is that you fail to grasp my argument which is, it is irrelevant how a woman falls pregnant, every woman should have bodily autonomy.

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      And lets not forget the impact of going through a pregnancy.
      It is not all sunshine and rainbows.
      A pregnancy, speaking re the physicality alone, can be a life changing, even life damaging thing. It’s an enormous thing to expect someone, who isn’t ready or willing, to go through. Especially when at the end they give up the baby.

      Pregnancy and birth has left me quite unwell for the last 4 years. Not including the pain and misery I went through the 10 months I was pregnant.

      I often find it annoying that this issue isn’t thought about when people say others should give the baby up for adoption, rather than terminating. There is that whole 10 months of pregnancy in between that seems to get forgotten about. You may think it’s meant to be bliss and natural but lets not forget that for a lot of people, pregnancy is not something easy to get over.

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      You cannot use the argument that just because thousands of other women wanted to be mothers this woman should have kept her baby. It’s like your parents saying, ‘finish your dinner because there are starving children out there.’ Her having the baby would not have made it easier for any woman out there trying (and perhaps failing) to conceive just like eating all your pasta bake would not have solved the famine in Africa. It’s a rather ‘stupid’ comment if you ask me.

      I am an adopted child and let me tell you there is no shortage of children waiting for a new family.

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        Nadia

        I indicated that I thought it was interesting that this woman did not mention considering or looking into adoption. Her main reason for not wanting to have the baby was not wanting to keep their fathers in her life. With an adoption, he would not need to be in her life. It was an option that I am not saying she should have taken but found interesting she didnt mention having considered. Particularly as so many parents are willing to adopt.

        I never insinuated she should have kept her baby because others want children but cant have them. You have drawn that random conclusion all on your own.

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          But what else could you have meant by making that statement?

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          ‘You may not have been ready to be a mother but thousands out there were.’

          Nadia, I was referring to this comment you made above. Do you believe that because there were so many women out there wanting to be a mother, that the writer should have taken all this into consideration before choosing to have an abortion? Can you even imagine how hard it would be to carry a baby for nine months and then give it away?

          The fact that you say, ‘I indicated that I thought it was interesting that this woman did not mention considering or looking into adoption,’ is quite a loose summary of your actual statement where you pretty much insulted the writer: ‘I notice you didn’t mention adoption but then that would have been a selfless act, a concept you are seemingly unfamiliar with.’

          Adoption isn’t as easy as a baby comes in and a happy family is created. It takes years for adoptions to take place. Yes so many parents are willing to adopt but only a few can. It’s extremely expensive and regulated to an inch of it’s life. And back when I was adopted, my parents could only adopt because my mum couldn’t have children. So it means the number of willing people is greatly reduced to the number who can. Adding one more baby to the line would not have necessarily been the ‘selfless option’.

          You may not agree with the writer’s decisions but you can leave your judgement out of this forum.

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            Anonymous

            “can you even imagine how hard it would be to carry a baby for 9 months then give it away?” – for me, terminating a life is FAR more unimaginable.

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              But raising an unwanted child when you are not ready is the better option?

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      Susan

      Nadia,

      Surely you know that no contraception is one hundred percent effective?
      And surely you know that you’re not a mind-reader, so you’ll never know how people truly feel about it?
      And you do that this a super-sensitive, taboo issue that takes real guts to talk about?

      Sounds a bit pro-stupidity to me…

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      Oh Nadia, it is attitudes such as yours that put women back a hundred years. If you feel strongly against abortion, don’t make it a part of your life, simple. I have 5 kids, I adore them, have stayed at home to do everything for them. If you met me, looking from the outside you would never dream I have had multiple abortions, heck, you might even have a coffee with me and never know. What a sad thing it is to live your life with such passionate venom against other women’s choices. Surely you could put that energy towards something of use.

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        Nadia

        “Comment Guidelines : Imagine this is a dinner party. Differences of opinion are welcome but keep it respectful or the host will show you the door.”

        I didnt believe my opinion was “passionate venom.” I did not attack the writer. She is asking people to accept the use of abortion as being a normal thing to do. I am disagreeing with that opinion.

        I do not intend any offense or harm to the writer of this article. She has chosen to start this age old debate of which it is clear everyone will never agree.

        If you would like to create imaginary hypotheticals in which you and I will meet you are welcome to but that is of no interest to me.

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          That is quite funny Nadia, I mean, my whole point was that you would have met many women who have terminated pregnancies and you are none the wiser. But you would be willing to judge her once you knew? How would she be any different to you as a friend once you knew?
          I believe you did attack the writer with this” I notice you didnt mention adoption but then that would have been a selfless act, a concept you are seemingly unfamiliar with.”
          I am sure this is a topic you feel passionate about, but that energy is wasted as it will happen anyway, that was my point.

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      Nadia - Who didn't write this post

      Gosh, it’s annoying when there’s two of us. I may have to come up with another name or use an avatar or something.

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      I have a friend who was adopted and has always said that she wished her birth parents had chosen abortion instead. She has so many issues because of it. Adoption is not always the wonderful alternative that people make it out to be

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        Anonymous

        Omg! I’m so lost for words right now! That is the most pathetic thing I’ve ever heard!

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      Anonymous

      I know the majority of people here don’t agree with you Nadia, but I appreciate hearing a different point of view on a very complex issue.

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    One Time

    I have had an abortion and do find it difficult to express how i feel about it.
    It was only 6mths after the birth of my son and I was not ready for another baby, and among many other issues like financial reasons; my husband and i both made the decision and he would of stuck by me no matter what I had chosen but having that baby just didnt feel right.
    I do have regrets and what ifs but it was a choice and im glad i had the resources and support i needed to be able to make it! I feel blessed everyday for the family I have and will again soon have another baby i dont know how that will make me feel but I am glad that I live in a country where I had the choice.
    Many will judge but never truly understand I was always a person who said i would never do something like that but in all honesty I never thought i would feel like I did want to do it. I hope this story is considered with compassion!

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    One of my best friends became pregnant to her on-off boyfriend of seven years. One night she took out myself and two friends for coffee and explained that she was pregnant… In that moment after she told us two out of three girls immediately thought she would have an abortion the other was excited because she thought my friend would have the baby. In the end she DID have an abortion, broke up with her boyfriend, travelled the world and is incredibly sucsessful in her career. She doesn’t regret it for a second and speaks openly about it often. Her boyfriend took her to have the proceedure but dropped her home after. My friends and I were were by her side on the day and helped talk her through any emotions she may or may not have been experiencing. I think it is so important that women talk about their abortions with their girlfriends, in my experience it helped my friend deal with the emotions or even lack-there-of that she was experiencing. Not only that the whole experience helped solidify our friendship. P.S. Love this post.

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    Anonymous

    Thank you so much for sharing your story.

    I had an abortion when I was 19. I was taking the pill and in a stable relationship with a boy I thought would become my husband, but was starting my second year of university and knew that a baby would mean I’d never finish my degree.

    I didn’t tell anyone for years and struggled with my decision. Not because it was the wrong decision for me, but because I felt as though I had somehow failed. I believe if women around me had spoken more openly about abortion I would have been able to deal with the situation so much better.

    As other comments have said, I’m worried about the negative responses you may receive. I want you to know that as a woman who really understands what you have been through, I applaud your honesty and bravery. Thank you for bringing us one step closer to removing the stigma from a social issue that affects so many women.

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    nicolemadiganeverest

    It’s definitely a subject that needs to be discussed freely and without judgement. I’ve known women who have had abortions – some regret their decision, some do not – and all of their feelings and experiences are valid and should be able to be discussed openly. This type of open dialogue is also helpful to other women facing similar choices.

    I’ve got to say though I’m uncomfortable with the term “pro-abortion”. Is anyone really “pro-abortion”?

    Pro-choice – yes, absolutely! It represents the need for abortion to be a safe, legal option for women. Pro-abortion seems to promote abortion as alternative to contraception.

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    Francine Dismorr

    Putting your name to this or not does not take away the strength it took to write this. Congratulations. I have so many other thoughts on this, but I cannot articulate them properly. I think more people need to be able to share this experience, to know that your closest friends and loved ones will not judge you if you feel that you need to take this step.

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    I’ve had two abortions, one year apart. Contraception failed, I was in the early stages of a relationship with a partner who was adamant that he didn’t want children, and I have two daughters from my first marriage as well. So, not ideal.

    I don’t feel empowered by them or the fact that I was granted the choice to terminate. I don’t think of them as a battle scar or a trophy of womanhood or a clever demonstration about how far feminism has come. So many articles written about abortions – especially first hand accounts – seem to glorify them as being testament to our strength as women. Abortions aren’t romantic comedies or chick lit.

    I am glad that we have the option, for many reasons, but ultimately I just think they’re sad. And that when we reflect on them, we might just think, “That was a bit shit,” and not consider them to be more than what they are or a symbol of a progressive society. The times I have talked to my friends about them, it has been in a humble and apologetic way – it was an accident, I wish I hadn’t had to make the choice, if I had my time again I would have been smarter about it, etc. I find that far more appropriate than the kind of Sex and the City-esque, throwaway, isn’t it fun that we’ve all had abortions now we can bond about it! type conversation.

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      Hi Anna,

      Thank you for your comments.

      While I haven’t experienced an abortion I share similar feelings to you.

      It’s essential for women to have access to safe, legal abortion – absolutely.

      And no way should they be made to feel judged or ashamed of their choices.

      However, I also don’t feel that abortion experiences are related to feminism or empowerment.

      They’re personal experiences – sometimes sad, sometimes not, of individual women.

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      Anonymous

      You’ve put this really well Anna. It’s not like any of us when we’re imagining our future plan to have an abortion! Just like no-one says – I’m going to get a divorce, be a single parent etc etc. None of us plan for these things or hope that they’re part of our future. I had a termination at 22 – never thought I would be the ‘type of person’ who had one. That baby bought my now partner and i together – made us talk about where our relationship was going. As it turns out, that was two gorgeous children in our thirties and 17 years and counting.

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    Mel

    Thank you for sharing your story. I too, like the commentor below, am fearful of the bitchy, judgemental response select Mamamia readers will blast upon you. We might all be surprised (I hope so!) to see a genuine warmth and respect for the strength it takes to write such a piece, whether done so anonymously or not.

    I know a number of women who have had abortions. Some regret the experience, some do not. Either way it was a choice they made as they were not in a position to love and care for a child at that point in their lives. I’m proud of any woman who has the strength to believe in herself and her choices in life. Sharing stories like these can never be a bad thing as it might help to save the soul of even just one lost woman.

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    cabbagefairy

    Just judging from the experiences I have had with my friends who have had abortions, I don’t think it is spoken about as freely as it can be such a painful topic for the woman who had the abortion.

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    rudyroo

    I haven’t had an abortion. But I know many women who have, and I haven’t for one second judged them for it. Instead my heart has gone out to them for the difficult decision they had to make. A decision that is I believe a very lonely one, despite any support they may have.
    It is a taboo subject, I often think largley to do with the intense grief that is involved. People find it hard to deal with or hear about the grief of others. Somewhat like IVF/infertility, stillbirth/loss of child, rape/incest. All these grievous life experiences largely (but not completely) female orientated. For many years these things are not talked about and only in recent decades are some starting to become vocalised.

    We all have our grief to bear, so lets just support each other without the judgements.

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    caro

    I totally agree with the statement about the pro-life ones being the people who have never had to consider an abortion. I had one in 2008, and I find the responses now vary between ‘oh, did you? So have i’. And ‘oh my god, I could nevver do that. Its my baby’. Just because u don’t regret it doesn’t mean it was a pleasant experience

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      Anonymous

      Abortion is and always will be wrong in my eyes! Having said that… A close friend of mine terminated a pregnancy when she was 17, and I supported her through the whole thing! It broke my heart, but I put my beliefs aside for her! Do I judge her? A little bit! She was careless and irresponsible! Too many women use abortion as contraception, and don’t even bother saying that’s not true, because it is! No one has the right to take away someone else’s life!
      I know I will be attacked all day by women on here for having a different opinion! Im entitled to an opinion, and mine is and always will be-abortion is wrong!

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        hahamama

        Of course you are entitled to your opinion. But I think we should try not to judge too harshly until we’ve stood in the shoes of the women who have been through this.

        Nobody should be attacking you for your views, but let’s EVERYONE remember to keep it respectful!

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        Cait

        Im not going to attack you, but consider this:

        Have you ever exceeded the speed limit?

        Have you ever drank to excess?

        Have you ever declined to donate to a charity?

        Have you ever done something without considering every possible consequence?

        The bottom line is, that if you answered ‘yes’ to any of the above, someone could quite easily call you selfish and irresponsible. Women who have to undergo this procedure dont often do it unless they feel like there is no better option. The adoption argument is tripe – its incredibly hard to adopt the existing children in the system, let alone insisting people add more children to the mix.

        Glass houses. Stones. Its all about perspective – maybe consider that before telling someone their decision was ‘wrong’.

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        Kim

        So you think someone you consider to be a careless and irresponsible 17 year old is the type of person who should be having children?

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          Susan

          I actually really appreciate that you put your strong beliefs aside to support a friend.

          That is true friendship.

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        mo5

        It seems you only know of your friend who terminated, so who are all these women who do it simply as a form of contraception? How do you know all of these women? Anyway, I always find it interesting that so called strong opinionated views such as yours have no impact whatsoever on women obtaining abortions each and every day….how is it that they are all wrong? Plus, what exactly is ‘wrong’ about it, I have never understood this. Anyway, I agree that you did seem to be a good friend in a time of need.

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      Kathy W

      Not all pro-lifer’s have never had to consider an abortion. I am pro life and had an abortion at 22.
      I was too scared to have the baby – father was long gone, I still lived with my parents, was extremely immature. Counselling was non-existent back then. I went to a women’s health clinic for a pregnancy test as you couldn’t buy them off the shelf back then. I was just given a phone number of a clinic and sent on my way. No counselling at the clinic – in and out – boom – baby is gone. I was back at work the next day and no follow-up from anyone. It was traumatic.

      It was only when I had my first born child that I realised how precious life is – which is why I have ended up pro-life.

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    Anna

    I am sitting here crying and just want to give you a huge hug and say thank you.

    I had an abortion when I was 18, it was to my boyfriend at the time and I knew neither of us was ready to have a baby and I knew that for me I could not go down the adoption road because I don’t think I would have been able to hand the baby over once born – and that wouldn’t have been fair to anyone, most especially the baby.

    Very very few people know that I’ve had one. My best friend and a couple of very close other friends at the time knew, my boyfriend at the time knew, and my now fiance knows (his understanding of this just made me love him more, especially as he was adopted out by a young mother).

    I have never felt able to share this with my Mum, who knows nearly everything about me. This is probably what hurts the most.

    I don’t feel ashamed for doing it, I knew it was the best decision at the time. Do I think about it sometimes and wonder what if, sure. Do I regret it, no.

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      not today

      I’ve never shared it with my mum either – I know she would understand though.

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    Lana

    I love this article. Caitlin’s chapter on abortion was my favourite in a book that I adored. Isn’t is archaic that in 2012 we, as women cannot speak honestly and openly about an issue that is NOT illegal and in my mind not immoral.

    2 things stood out for me in Caitlin’s book – 1- she admitted how she was grateful that she had an abortion. She did not reget it, she wasn’t tormented by guilt and sadness. She made her decision with a rational mind and she made the right decision

    The other was how we give anti-abortionists such a loud voice – we allow them to dictate the discussion around abortion. People who have had an abortion – get no or little air time.

    And don’t even try search abortion on Google because you get thousands of false results. People in the guise of “concern” posting stories of horror and angst endured after abortion. But if you look closely they are religious groups who are vehemntly anti abortion. Not true accounts. It angers me, saddens me and frustrates me

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      ‘People who have had an abortion – get no or little air time.’

      Yes! Thank you Lana, you’ve said what I couldn’t put my finger on.

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      picardie.girl

      I feel this way about the refugee/’boat people’ debate. Why do the refugees themselves get so little air time? You want to know why they came here the way they did? Ask them!

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    John

    My girlfriend at university got pregnant and had an abortion. If you think women don’t talk about it, what about men!
    I told my best mate at the time – his girlfriend had had one and I just wanted to know how to support my girlfriend and what to expect.
    I look back on it as a part of life. A bit like having a broken arm or something. you don’t plan it but you deal with it and you move on. I can’t wait to have kids one day. But it has to be right for both parties.

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      Beatrice

      Hey John, I feel for you. As we all know, fella’s tend not to talk about sensistive topics. Many years ago a dear friend of mine confided in me that his partner was pregnant and she chose to have an abortion. He was devastated and wanted to have a baby. In the end he conceded that if she did not want to proceed then it was not to be and he would have to accept it. It broke my heart to see him deeply upset and grieving the loss of what could have been. I was the only one he confided in as he said there was no way he could talk to his mates about it. I sincerely hope that times are changing.

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      anon for now

      THanks for opening our eyes to this side of the debate, John.

      I am pro-choice and had an abortion at nineteen and never really thought about how it affected my boyfriend at the time. It wasn’t until I met my husband and he and I talked about our experiences of abortion (two of his past girlfriends had had abortions) that I considered the impact it has on the guys involved.

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    Shania

    When I was 17 I fell pregnant after a condom broke. My boyfriend went to the clinic with me and we used our savings to pay for it – we went halves.
    I don’t regret it. I’m 28 now and I can’t imagine having an 11 year old child.

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    PerthGirl

    Great post. Yep, I had an abortion too. Last year. I already have two kids and my relationship with my husband is not great. Another baby would have pushed us over the edge.
    I did what I felt was right for my family. Nobody knows but my husband.

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    wife

    Thank you ladies for posting your pics. Pro or anti, abortion’s a part of life.

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    Burvy

    Wow. I was going to congratulate you on your strength to write about such an emotionally charged topic with such honesty but I have just realised that you signed it anonymous. I hope that people who comment here are able to do it without vicious judgement that I see far too often on mamamia but I doubt it.

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      Anonymous

      Kinda ironic (pot/kettle) that you’re passing judgement on the MM contributors.

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      rainbow

      there is talking about it with close friends and family and there is publishing it on website with thousands of readers. i don’t think the message is lost.

      i think the most vicious judgement will come from the same pro-lifer that posts here on every abortion post. you know who you are.

      great post, i have to get my hands on that book

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        hahamama

        I agree, Rainbow. The poster is saying that women should be able to talk about it with their family and friends, not on such a public forum as this!

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      Susan

      A popular Adelaide writer did an article about hers and got death threats. And horrible hate-mail. She quit not long after that…

      From my experience in doing some work with the Pregnancy Advisory Committee, those pro-lifers are crazy cats. I’ve never been screamed at with such vitriole in my life! Scary, scary people.

      Safety first… including emotional safety.

      Also, I think it’s cool that people can write from a place of emotional vulnerability openly. The only way that you can do that sometimes is ghosting.