I signed up for some new health insurance on the weekend and as I was clicking through the checklist of boxes of what I did and didn’t need, I realised that I’m not going to have kids.
It hit me like a tonne of bricks as I scrolled to the ‘pregnancy and reproductive services’ box. I hovered over this box for about half an hour. I kept getting up and down from my desk, wandering around my office feeling a range of totally unexpected emotions.
I was completely unprepared for this.
I’d probably describe myself as a career girl; I work in the media, I get to travel a lot, and to date, have had some great loves in my life and some great adventures thus far. I lead a full life. Is it a happy life? Yes it is. Is it a full life? Yes it is.
So why did this little frickin box cause me so much torment?
It’s the smallest things that unravel us sometimes. I’m about to turn 42 this week and I’m really loving being in my forties. I’ve never felt as confident as I do these days – I have a really clear sense of who I am and what I want in life. So maybe I’ve got some pre-birthday blues?
Dunno.
That frickin box.
It made me wonder if I’m not following life’s recipe properly or if I’ve missed an ingredient somewhere. I don’t ever remember feeling the yearning to have children that some women talk about. I’ve never felt the pain of an empty womb or getting clucky around babies. I’m lucky to have 7 nieces and nephews that I’ve watched grow into amazing people and have been a really ‘hands on’ aunty. I’ve always adored other people’s kids, loved them to bits in fact.
So why am I feeling this now?
I don’t want to buy into the notion that because I’m a woman I should be procreating but is there something lurking deep down in my psyche that in fact, still clings to the hope that I’ll have a kid?
Maybe.
Some would say that I’ve left my run too late whilst others would say it just wasn’t meant to be. I’m not comforted by either to be honest. I was briefly filled with the sense that I may have missed out on something and that little box made me realise that I’m entering a phase where the possibility of give birth is drawing to a close. I was stunned to feel sad about this: staggered in fact.
I sat in front of the screen, clutching the mouse until my fingers ached.
I’m not saying I won’t have kids, I’ll always have kids in my life: this I know for sure. They’re just not going to come out of my body. There, I’ve said it.
So why am I so sad?
I reckon if you’re lucky enough to have a kid in your life whether it’s a niece, a nephew, a god child or the kid of a friend, your title becomes irrelevant – you offer your love, boots and all. The bottom line is who we love, and how we love. That’s what’s important. When I reached this in my head, I finally exhaled and let the mouse breathe a little.
If I buy into the notion that not having kids means I’ve failed as a woman, it will sink me. I’ve simply not trodden the birth path and this is ok.
It has to be.
So did I tick the box?
No, I didn’t.
I finished the application and I got a great deal. Just as I logged off the doorbell rang and my nephew was on the doorstep to surprise me from WA. A big hug and a few tears later, I’m more than convinced that as long as you have the love, the rest falls into place.
Except the mouse. I’m going to need a new one of those.
Serena is a producer / journo and the co-creator/producer of the reality series Mad Hatters. An adoring owner of her puppy Lola, a drinker of big reds and a penguin at heart, her secret shame is her addiction to Jersey Shore.







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I agree with Freebie. You can’t have children in your life if you don’t get along with the parents. Most Aunty’s are amazing and can provide love, support and encouragement in a positive way whilst still knowing their boundaries, unfortunately my husband’s sister does not. She is in her forties, single and does not have any children of her own, she has a wonderful career and has travelled extensively. I have always made an effort to include her in our life even when at times my husband couldn’t care less or bother to maintain contact. She recently relocated halfway across the world to have more family involvement, however she does not respect boundaries and often tries to undermine my authority as a parent. There have been several instances of this behaviour and my husband believes she does it on purpose. My husband also works away for extended periods of time so when he is home our time together as a family is very precious, we always include her during these precious moments, but if she continually takes advantage of the situation it is not worth the stress. My child deserves to have plenty of people who love her but neither my husband or I chose to parent a child with a third party’s input or for their temporary benefit. I completely respect the decision people make not to have children and feel for those who don’t have a choice but please if you are a PANK (Professional Aunty No Kids) don’t push parent’s buttons, we have a tough gig.
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Interesting op-ed. Good to see a someone from Mrs Montgomery’s class of 1976 has done so well, Serena.
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Thanks for reading this – did we go to school together?
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Yes.
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So what’s your first name? Is it Nadia? I want to try and place you in my head!
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Ah serena,
Even as a mother of 3 small ones I feel strange when it comes to thinking of the end of my reproductive years (I am nearly 41). I don’t necessarily want any more children and feel happy with my life but realising Icouldn’t even if I wanted to is a very emotional thing! I think it’s kind of the removal of choice, the movement into a different life stage, which happens to us all . We like to keep our options open even if it’s highly unlikely we will ever take some of them.
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I’m “only” 37 but having the very same thoughts. I’ve never felt my bio clock ticking until the last year or so. I have two beautiful children already and lots of good reasons not to have any more, still I’m finding the end of my reproductive years really sad.
I think about my childless friends who are my age (or older) and confronting the fact they may not have _any_ kids and try to get a grip, but still, I’m struggling with it…
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What a breath of fresh air!! I’m still in my 20′s, but due to some family medical issues I spent most of last year agonising about this very subject and what it meant to me. The realisation that I didn’t actually need to give birth in order to have children in my life and importantly meaningful relationships with them was a true light bulb moment!
For me, being at peace with that, means that now I’m not set on deadline of a ticking clock and I will also be content either way… now if only everyone else would stop seeing it as worse than a Greek tragedy we could all get on with our lives!
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Good article! To be honest, I think alot of people who criticize child-free people are just a teensy bit jealous of their lifestyles. Motherhood is an amazing blessing, and at the end of the day, I wouldn’t trade it for anything. It has brought a new dimension to my life. My daughter is like an extension of myself and sometimes I am taken aback by the unconditional love I feel for her. But don’t let anyone fool you into thinking that parenthood is not a job or a sacrifice. It’s easy for me to look at my childless friends and envy their (in my eyes) carefree lifestyle. Coming and going when they please. Sleeping and eating when they please. Never having to put the TV on the Disney Channel or Cartoon Network. But at the end of the day, we all make choices by weighing the pros and cons of any situation, and to me, the urge to be a mother was, and is, stronger than my desire for more freedom in life. Some people can’t make that statement, and that’s okay, too. I think it takes alot of self-awareness and insight to realize that the “default” life path is not for you.
The bottom line, people who are happy with their own choices will not feel the need to berate you about yours.
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Agree 100%
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Agree 100% with your last statement. But how I wish having kids wasn’t the ‘default life path’ with the implication that those of us who can’t /don’t/ won’t need to somehow justify this. Sigh.
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I think it’s great if you don’t want kids, thank you for not only the honesty but we all we all have a choice and thats a wonderful feeling! I love being a young mum of 3 boys, I was 25 when we had our first baby. (which is young now days). I’m the crazy mum who would easily have another one just even it up.
Anyway I think you are so brave and strong to just know you don’t want kids. Good on you for living your life just how you want to!! So I’ll think of you the next time someone says omg three boys and you want another one, you must be crazy. Yes I might be crazy but it’s my life and I can live it how I please
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Next time all you child-free people get asked about whether you are going to have children (or have another child, etc) look the asker firmly in the eye and say pleasantly “Actually, I have given up answering that question” and refuse to be drawn further.
Most people will realise that they should probably not have asked, because it’s none of their business!
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What a great article…I love being an Aunty…I would like to thank my sister and brother in law for allowing me to have the relationship that I have with my nephews. I am married and we talk about kids somewhere in the near future but who knows. If somehow we can’t or won’t I have some people in my life have allowed me to have such a beautiful Aunty experience.
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Nobody is right and nobody is wrong. I know you Serena and I’ve also met one of your nephews. What an amazing boy and I know how much influence you’ve had over him and how much you’ve been there for him being the ‘cool’ Aunt. We all needed one of those to respect and ultimately, steer us in the right direction ever so subtly.
We never know where we’ll end up in life. We can plan all we like but if it’s not in our future, it’s just not. And hey, remember, my offer of a 5yo still stands. xx Bern
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Great post. I’m 26 and my husband is 37 and we just had our first baby 3 months ago. To be honest though, I find I receive a lot of judgement about my decision to be a ‘young’ mother. I know people have babies a lot younger than me but I’m one of just a few of my group of friends who are married and have children. Our daughter was planned for and much wanted, and I constantly got asked questions like ‘don’t you want to travel more, save more, be married longer etc?’ Obviously I didn’t or we wouln’t be trying to have a baby! I have a career, I’ve done a bit of travelling and been lucky enough to meet the man I want to be with forever, so why is it so wrong that all I really wanted is to be a mother? Really, some people don’t want to travel, have high flying careers etc. Some people just want to be mothers and what’s wrong with that??
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If people are judging you for that, it means they are probably jealous that you’ve got your life together. If someone is content with their own life, they would not judge you for yours. There is no “right” age for having a baby (within reason) and not everyone gets the travel bug. Your baby is truly a blessing and it doesn’t matter what anyone else thinks. Stuff ‘em, I say!
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I really appreciate this article, its well written and honest. Well Done
As soon as I got married, all I heard was questions about when we were having a baby. For one thing, we are (reasonably) young and have plenty of time, but I’ve always answered the question honestly “never, I have no maternal instinct”. I work with children so people expect that I love children and I do – but I just don’t want any of my own. I’m sure people think I’m less of a woman for it. I’m also quite sure that my husband’s family think it’s my fault that we don’t have children and that there is none on the horizon although he’s actually in perfect agreement with me!
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Wow, I could have written this! No particular maternal instinct, work in a kid- centric industry, get along fine with them … good luck dealing with the in- laws!
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Hubby and I are not far off our 5 year wedding anniversary and have known each other almost 10 years. We love our life, almost every day we say we are lucky to have each other, good jobs and our own home. We see my nephew and niece almost every weekend and babysit often, we love them so much and feel privilged and honoured to be part of their lives. We don’t want kids of our own though and we are constantly questioned on our choice. I am quite wary of being told you will change your mind (I think if we wanted kids after knowing each other all this time we would know by now or being asked why don’t you want kids, I would never dream of asking someone why they want kids….we often say that we don’t know if we will regret it later in life but we don’t want to have children just for that reason.
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Lovely story Serena, you have a great attitude and parents should be grateful that people like you exist to offer such an important contribution to their own parenting. Despite the espoused belief of some parents, popping out one of your own is not the be and all. I do want to make the point though that you, and others in a similar situation, certainly still have the option. Last week’s contribution from the 32 year old panicking about running out of time really made me think that we’ve swung too far from the ‘forgot to have kids’ attitude supposedly common in recent years. We’re forgetting it was not unusual in our grandmothers generation to have children well into our forties, ie. to the end of our reproductive lives. I married at 40, had my now 14 month old joy at 42 and am now 43 and due with my second in June, two months before I turn 44. And I’m certainly not alone amongst my friends. I also have one single friend who had her first at 42 through IVF with donor sperm and is now going back for another at 43. I’m not saying my situation is ideal – I just didn’t meet my match earlier so that’s my journey – but I had a wonderful time in my 30′s traveling and building my career, and wasn’t unnecessarily stressed about the ticking clock. I would hate for the reminders about declining fertility to lead to women being unable ro enjoy this fabulous indepence and fun.
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Congratulations on writing about this issue in the intelligent and sensitive manner it deserves. It’s been frustrating to see a couple of sneering, selfish style newspaper articles in recent months from other women in the same position as you – so good on you for tackling it in a far more insightful and mature fashion.
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I understand your feeling, but in another way. I have one child and the assumption is you have 2, 3, 4 etc. It makes me feel guilty that she will not have a sibling, but a lot of factors made us decide one is enough. People shouldn’t pressure anyone about a life choices.
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Agreed. I am an only child (I love it) and Mum told me that when I was about 2 a women was pressuring her as to when she was going to have another. Mum replied “why is it so important to you that I have another child?”
Sparents (a topic that has been written about here before) are wonderful people to have. I am truly grateful to the ones that I have in my life.
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Dont let them bother you. Some of the nicest most well balanced kids I know are only children. Some of the biggest spoilt brats have a few siblings. Its not birth order or number of kids in the family that makes the difference, its the choices the parents make regarding discipline and indulging their kids that determine how they turn out.
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My father is an only child and he is one of the most successful, talented, loving, well-rounded people I’ve ever known. I don’t think it makes a difference if you come from a family of 3 or a family of 10, it’s about the quality of the family.
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what a beautifully written article.
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Beautiful Serena! I have a one year old daughter and am judged for the fact that my husband & I don’t want any more children. We love our little girl to bits, we just feel that our family is complete. I think people will always judge others for choices that are different to their own. Stay at home mums judge working mothers and vice versa. There are so many examples I could list but I’d be here forever. Be happy with your choices and ignore anyone that doesn’t agree! Oh, and choosing not to have children if it’s not what you want is the least selfish thing anyone could do.
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Ive recently (two days ago) gotten engaged, and im a child care worker. and i think as long as im working in child care, i have no desires to have my own. after looking after babies and kids all day, all i wanna do when i come home is spend time with my fiance (still sounds weird!), exercise, cook dinner, and relax!
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I’m more concerned about her liking Jersey Shore!
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I think this is a lovely reminder for everyone out there who doesn’t have/can’t have/ has chosen not to have children that there is no ‘ideal picture’ of a family that suits us all.
If we loosen up our fixation on labels and stereotypes and tightly restricted concepts of what a family ‘should’ look like, we will be able to experience the love and joy of all the beautiful people (children included) in our lives.
I think it’s great you have shared your experience of how you have been able to foster your maternal side, without giving birth to your own children. It is a point of view so many women, whether by choice or circumstance, might need to consider, and positive stories can only help us all.
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Serena, This is a terrific article and I commend you for putting your feelings out there. I am stunned that anyone would be judged for deciding not to have children. I sit firmly in “Lu’s” camp and think it is far more selfish to bring kids into this world simply to be able to tick a box. I am a mum because I have always wanted to be a mum, but I have friends who have decided their lives are complete without kids. Never would any of us dream of judging each other because of the decisions each of us has made. Instead, we embrace each other’s differences and enjoy what that means for our friendships.
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I don’t have kids of my own. And as a single almost 36 year old who’s had ovarian cancer, it’s unlikely to happen.
But I am godmother to 3 and Aunty M to my best friends two little ones, have other families whose kids are like my nieces and nephews and can’t wait until my brother and sister in law have kids of their own (which they are planning on soon if all goes well).
My life is richer as a result of these amazing kids and I hope that their lives are better too. I’ve done the 3 nights babysitting so the parents can go away to celebrate wedding anniversaries or go to a wedding, I love being able to take them to do fun things or buy the girls ridiculously overpriced pretty dresses or bake cakes for their birthday. It was lovely when my friends 14 year old rang me and asked me to go for hot chocolate last year. There are times she will talk to me as another adult friend when talking to Mum is not quite so easy.
I am fiercely protective of ‘my kids’ – anyone who crosses them will have me to desk with. Sure, it’s not the same as being a mum, there are days when I’m happy to give them back, but it’s a special bond that I’m very thankful for.
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I think there is a BIG difference between not wanting kids and then being told you cant have kids.
I personally don’t want children. I have never seen myself as a mother. For many reasons I won’t go into here but I’m okay with it. My family and friends who know me can understand why I don’t want kids… They know me.
But if I was to find out that I couldn’t have kids medically for some reason I think I would find it hard.
On the whole selfish argument. When I was a teenager I asked my Uncle who was married and had no kids why. His response made me really admire him. He told me that while he loved being an Uncle he was too selfish (he used that word) to have kids. He liked his toys (tools and computer stuff) too much to share and to give up his time.
Why is that a bad thing to see in yourself and make the decision not too have a child? I think its brave and smart.
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Your first paragraph says it all.
Serena is happy with the decisions she has made. This indicates choice.
I have never managed a pregnancy. If I never do there will be a void in me that others people’s children will never fill ( that’s not to say I don’t love and adore them – I do. But for me it’s not the same.
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I really appreciate your honesty. I already have an older child whom I had in my mid 20′s. My partner and I have ummed and ahhed for years about having more. Finally last year, we decided we will not be having any more.
I love children and I am very maternal, but I have had enough, especially as I enter a phase of my life where I can once again focus on career and my own interests. Having time for me again is wonderful and makes me a better person to be around. I fell into the trap of being a martyr mum for a few years and I will never go back there!
Even though I have chosen no more babies, I am surprised by the grief I feel about this choice. This grief is heightened at the moment because friends and family are reproducing rapidly and we find we are less involved with family and friends’ children than what we had hoped. We are out of sync with our peers (our child is older and has a disability) and I am currently feeling left out of the whole “mummy and baby world”, but this is not a good enough reason for us to have another child. The truth is I probably wouldn’t be able to relate to much of the other parents’ experiences anyway and would get frustrated with some of the talk about what seem like minor problems and worries to me. I feel very judgemental for feeling this way – I would love to change this, but for now all I can do is be kind to myself about feeling this way and bite my tongue in social situations.
This is common feeling of parents who have had to work hard for months and years to teach their child to something that is taken for granted and happens naturally in a typically developing child.
ooops – a bit of a diversion there! Back to topic: From talking to my 65 year old mother and her friends, I gather many women (but not all) go through this kind of grief around menopause, when the realisation hits that the option of reproduction has ceased. Here’s hoping that I don’t have to go through this grief process again then! Biology and societal expectations are powerful!
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Great post Serena!
I think of motherhood as another dimension of me. Like another hat I wear; mother, sister, friend, wife, business owner, mortgage slave, make up loving, Gen Y.
It adds a fuzzy glow to my life, but like my other hats, I do not identify solely with it, like I doubt many of us identify with being ‘just a mum’. We are so much more than that, although, for many women it’s enough and that’s great, too.
I love to read stories like these, because sometimes if I squint, I can see it like my own parallel life. Sound weird?
Selfish? Hardly. Lord knows I have so many of those moments myself and they’re not exclusively reserved for women who haven’t had children.
I’d say generous. Obviously, if your nephew travels from WA to see you, it’s to bask in some love. And mothers don’t own the rights to love.
Again, fantastic piece, Serena.
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Thanks to all who are taking the time to offer their thoughts on what I’ve written here. I’m really enjoying watching a lively debate unfold and I’m so pleased that it seems to resonate for a lot of you. My only comment to add is that there are loads of women out there who like me, haven’t had children and its never as simple as ‘oh I’m a career girl or I just never got around to it or, I’m too selfish’. It runs much deeper than this.
What I do rally against is the notion that not having children makes me less of a person or brands me as selfish. In fact, I’m a bit perplexed at how a few people have arrived at this judgement of me when all I’ve done is name the lived experience of my realisation around this issue and shared it in a very personal and, very public way.
I’d challenge anyone to tell me I’m ‘less than’ simply because life hasn’t provided me with opportunities that other women have had. To those folk I’d just say this: this is my story and I’m honest enough to talk about how it makes me feel. If what I’ve written helps other women talk about how they feel, then this can only be a good thing.
If you take away anything from what I’ve written let it be this: there can never be enough love in the world. How it arrives or how it’s dispensed, is irrelevant.
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Love every word of this, especially the last para. Thank you for making me feel ok, rather than guilty or inadequate in making my own decision not to have children.
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Sing it, sister.
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Serena, I have observed that journalist (and I use the term very loosely) Angela Shanahan has made it very clear what she thinks of deliberately childless-by-choice women in her many pronatalist rants, er, I meant op-eds. Yet, with no sense of irony, that staunchly Catholic woman seems to hold back her ire for childless members of the clergy and nuns. Yanno, those who make a vow of chastity.
One does not need to be incredibly insightful to draw a conclusion from analysing Ms Shanahan’s (and the many — Catholic or not — who share her opinion) inconsistant application of ire aimed at the childless/childfree people. It is not the option of being childfree per se that they find so infuriating. It is those who HAVE SEX and do not have children that gets them so hot and bothered.
The child-burdened [1] resort to ad hom attacks on the childfree because they think that
* the childfree have unfairly dodged a bullet and are unfairly “gettting away with it”;
* any good fortune enjoyed by the childfree somehow translates into the child-burdened’s bad fortune;
* the life-choice of the childfree is a direct criticism of their life-choice ;
* that the childfree are accessing consumption choices that they cannot access and this is some kind of perverse inequity.
There is no way of reasoning with these people. Emotion and a lack of logic and reasoning clouds their judgement. If they want to call you selfish just remind them that, as a childless person, you are statistically 97 times less likely to murder, rape, starve, beat, abuse and neglect a child than a parent/step-parent. That tends to shut them up.
1 – Childburdened is not the same as “parent”. The childburdened [people] are those who resent parenthood and envy the childless.( Exhibit A: Angela Shanahan.) whereas parents love parenthood and accept that it is not a path everyone desires.
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I think the only time it’s selfish not to want kids is if your partner really DOES want, even one, and it is something that you can do. If it’s a relationship ‘deal breaker’ and having a child is something that you can slot into your life, then you will probably find much unexpected joy in that child.
I don’t abide by the ‘children make my life complete blah’ but perhaps that’s because my kids are older, much much more messy, keep my busy driving them around and they are expensive!
But, I do love them, and seeing them grow up has been fantastic, but perhaps not like those who compare having children, really, to the feelings of a new and exciting loving relationship between two adults in the first weeks of romance.
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I disagree. It is equally selfish to use emotional blackmail to pressure a partner into parenthood.
This is not something that can be compromised. You cannot have half a child.
If a couple cannot agree on parenthood then it is deal-breaker. Couples should be very certain about how each party stands on being a parent. I made absolutely certain that my then boyfriend was committed to being childfree before I agreed to marriage.
I do not want to be pregnant, I do want to give birth. Ever. No-one can convince me that I would find “unexpected joy” in having a child.
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I have three kids and one of the most important people in their lives is their godmother, my best friend. She has no children of her own but has dedicated her working life to children (she’s an awesome teacher) and she is a wonderful ‘auntie’ to my kids. My kids love having her around and are very close to her. I don’t have a lot of family close by and I am grateful to my friend for her ongoing interest in my kids. She can be counted on to turn up to plays, sporting events and birthday parties when required (and she remembers to bring a bottle wine to share for when the party’s over.) Thank goodness for childess aunties, I say!
You definitely don’t need to be a mother to have kids in your life. Thanks for a great post.
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My “Aunty” Sue was this person for me. If I’m being honest, she was twice the aunt that either of my biological ones are. She died of ovarian cancer in 2010 and there is still a massive hole in all our lives where Sue used to be. We haven’t had any major family events since she died, I’m filled with grief thinking that when I one day get married she won’t be there. If either of the “real” aunts didn’t come it wouldn’t bother me in the least.
I completely believe e that blood does not make family – love, time and just giving a damn about people is what makes a family.
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Great post, Serena! I’ve never felt the urge to have kids, and my husband and I never plan on doing so.
I think that perhaps down the line, when we’re in our 40s, we might consider being foster parents for a while – to give kids who really NEED somewhere to be a warm, caring place to live.
But nope, no maternal desires here, and I think you can have a beautiful, fulfilling life with or without kids.
I can understand mums who say there is no love like the love of a child, but I think it’s like anything in life – you can’t really miss what you don’t have (I’m an only child for example, and it always stumps me when people say ‘oh, don’t you miss having siblings’? Um, no, because I have no idea what it would be like!).
I, for example, can’t imagine life without my amazing, generous husband by my side… but I’m sure I would have had a happy and fulfilled life if I’d never met him, too.
Everyone’s life is different, and we need to find the joy in what we have, rather than trying to fit some sort of mould!
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I agree you don;t need to have kids to be a compete woman BUT having children chnages you as a PERSON, as a HUMAN BEING, in such a significant way that I truly fail to understand how anyone would not WANT it. Being a Mother is the most incredible thing I have ever ever ever done. I was a career woman working in the music industry and then the media. I then had my first child at 40 and am now expecting my 2nd and will be 44 when it is born. What I thought was important in life and what I thought was love bears zero resemblance to what I think now about hose things now. There is NOTHING that comes close to a mother’s love. I love my niece, I was there when she was born I was the first person to hold her and I would kill for her however what I feel for my son and this new life inside of me is beyond words. If you believe you have love in your life now then great but I truly believe you are seriously missing out on the greatest gift of all, the love you feel being returned by your child.
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Way to make a sister feel worse.
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You can’t imagine how someone isn’t interested in having kids? – then you must have a very limited imagination.
You can’t imagine how someone wouldn’t want to live life just the way you do? Then you must think yourself preeetty amazing.
I hope you don’t pass this kind of ‘thinking’ on to your offspring!
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I think each to their own but I have encountered my friends whom are childless are much more selfish then the ones that have children. It is all about them. They talk Prada, Gucci. For each of their milestone birthdays, 30th, & 40th birthdays they never put anything on, although they brag about how much money they make. They never like to part with a cent unless it is for themselves. Otherwise my friends married with kids are generous, always giving, happy to spent money on their friends., happy to put on a party. Like to put in for birthday presents without flinching. I am just giving you an example of my network .
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Your friends aren’t very cool. I know lots of childless people who are the most selfless, giving and generous people I know.
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Yep I am sure there are others that are different, but in my circle although the single childless women are lovely in other areas , selfish is a word that springs to mind often. Mostly I would think is because they are only looking after number 1. They like to spend big on themselves but hold tight if they have to put out for others. Married friends with children seem to be just much more giving in my circle. Generous in all areas. Yes I agree, very uncool.
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Just be glad your selfish friends are childless then. I know a couple who fit your description and while their kid has every toy you can imagine a child would want the parents spend half their time negotiating who’s turn it is to stay with him and who gets to have “me time” to go shopping or play golf.
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That is terrible.. Well at the moment my single friends are in a place they dont want to be. I know they would like to be settled with kids but I fear that their superficial world and selfish ways inhibits them from finding a man. Just my thoughts.
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Let me tell you about generosity. It’s buying presents for all your friends kids for their birthdays and Christmas, and christenings and sponsoring all their school events. It’s babysitting for your friends kids. It’s spending time with them, being interested in them, taking part in their socialisation.
And my money is mine so quite frankly, it’s all about me when it comes to spending it. That’s on me, my friends, my friends kids, my favourite charities and whatever else comes along.
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You are a first. Most single childless women I know only spend up on themselves. Good for you.. That is refreshing
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I’m not a first at all and it’s mildly insulting that you think that way. I’d be questioning the sort of people you hang out with if I were you.
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generosity in my book is not about spending money – ANYONE can do that be it a dollar or a thousand dollars, generosity is giving of yourself and your time.
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Wow, how interesting! In our group it’s the opposite! There’s more now that do have kids than don’t and to be honest, it always falls to us child free ones to put on the events. Every Grand Final, Melbourne Cup, New Years Eve etc 90% is of the time held by one of the 2 child free couples in the group. We just spent about $10k on a 4 day event for my partners 40th because we didn’t have, nor are we planning on having, a wedding. I’ve just started planning my own 40th for next year which i’ve budgeted about $5-$7k for. I’ve thrown bridal showers, baby showers, hosted dinner parties for friends birthdays when we’ve known that others can’t really afford the $200 per couple (minimum) it ends up costing to go out for dinner these days.
We’ve bought engagement presents, wedding presents, christening presents, filled freezers with home cooked meals when the babies come home from hospital, flown to overseas destinations to attend weddings, all at great expense to ourselves.
Because as a “selfish” child free couple, we can and we love doing it. And hopefully, our friends enjoy the benefit of our child free status!
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I am talking my single girlfriends. Couples are different.
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Why on earth should it make a difference in selfishness whether you’re single or part of a couple? Sorry, but this sort of generalisation seems a little bit illogical ( read daft!) to me.
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Totally. There is no correlation between selfishness and whether you have children or not. Selfish people can make babies, and stay selfish. Unselfish people can choose not to have them.
Selfishness is a character trait, unrelated to reproductive status!
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I know parents who are exactly like your friends without kids. The kids are showered with material wealth but their parents are too selfish to take time out from their own social lives to even watch them play sport. Friday night drinks is so much more important than cheering for their children, who usually get themselves to the game and home by the generosity of their team mates parents.
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Carolyn, while I completely agree that having a child changes you as a person, to say things like ‘you are missing out on the greatest gift of all’ does nothing to help those of us who are single and who don’t want to raise a child alone or people who have health issues (including mental health issues) that may mean they don’t want to have children of their own.
This article is celebrating the love and the joy of having children that are not your own as a significant part of your life. Your comment, while maybe not intended that way, comes across quite harsh and judgmental of those who don’t have children rather than joining in with that celebration.
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Carolyn’s comment made me want to throw up.
On behalf of the childless women allow me to congratulate you on your smug happiness. Our lives are nothing but a loveless existence. Thanks for pointing that out to us.
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She’s basking in pregnancy hormones it seems….makes u a bit mental. I’m a mum but also an auntie. Love being an auntie. I remember holding my nephew when he wAs a baby, befire I had my own & not fussed either way about having them, & felt the most amazing love for him. Knocked my socks off. Didn’t Austen say there are as many forms of love as there are…forget the rest! In Mansfield park.
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It shouldn’t make you feel bad if you don’t want kids, but to be honest with you it seems a little selfish.
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Why exactly?
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Why should anyone have children if they do not wish to, and what the hell is selfish about it???
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Selfish? You’re kidding me. I have never met the author, she hardly sounds selfish.
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How is it selfish to not want kids?
I have three, and I think I’m one of the most selfish people I know. Wanting or not wanting something doesn’t have any impact on how “selfish” you are – that can be judged more from the way you act with the people in your life.
If anything, surely those of us with kids are more selfish – taking up more resources, overpopulating the world, just so we get that little bit of ourselves walking around in the world… My opinion, anyway!
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How on earth can it be selfish? Honestly, I feel so exasperated at some of the comments on the site sometimes. Serena has written a lovely piece about something that was quite painful and all you can say is that she’s a bit selfish??? I have two children and I always wanted children and I almost didn’t get them and they are my life. But I do not feel like some selfless martyr as a result. I just feel like a mum. There is no right or wrong in how people should live their lives, as long as they do no harm to others. So please M&M, just be quiet.
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My SIL has two kids, and she is by far the most selfish girl I have ever met. She is demanding and unappreciative. I have had her 6 month old dumped unceremoniously on me when she walks through the door. If the baby starts crying or whinging, she will say “Mum, get the baby!” and my MIL will jump.
She swears at her 3 year old all the time, and has told me how she wanted to abort his pregnancy. She ain’t winning no selfless mother awards any time soon. So please don’t throw around the old “being a mother makes you selfless” chestnut. It just doesn’t work.
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Damn straight!
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Because mothers are the cultural embodiment of selflessness and so anyone who DOESN”T want a child MUST be selfish
Such statements could only come from a complete douche.
I wonder if this comment will get allowed?
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Ummm, what? How is it selfish not to want kids?
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Personally, I think its selfish to have kids just to tick a box. We all know them, people whose kids are just an accessory. These people often put no consideration into the type of life their kids will live and make lousy parents with sad and emotionally neglected children. People who choose not to have kids are far from selfish because their choice isnt impacting upon anyone else.
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I have never understood the “you must be selfish if you don’t want to have kids” line.
Selfish means putting your needs ahead of someone else but in this case there is no someone else!
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I know a few kids whose parents needs come streets before theirs but materially the kids have everything so the parents probably dont even see what is obvious to everyone else
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A child has no say as to whether or not they want to enter this world. They are brought into the world by someone who is doing so purely because THEY want to have a child – THAT is a selfish act.
Not wanting children is not.
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I think you have missed the point of the article. For many women it is not a CHOICE to be childless. I assume the author is the same as a number of my friends who are childless by circumstance.
It is like calling everyone who is single selfish for not being in a relationship.
If you dont have children because you have never met the right person, and dont fancy the alternatives of doing it on your own, how on earth is that selfish?
And even if she was in a position to have children and decided they werent what she wanted, how is that selfish? Selfish assumes that you are not sharing with someone. Who is suffering from this so called “selfishness”?
Great article by the way.
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I am a mum of two and would love to have nieces and/or nephews one day (insteas of a third child!). But, I really really dislike my sister in law so I’m not sure how things will go. I also dont like how she is with my two and I’m not sure if her having kids will help.
My point is that this idea of you not needing to be a mum to have kids in your life only works if you get along nicely with those kids’ parents!
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What a great piece Serena, thank you !
My husband and I found out recently that we have about as much chance of falling pregnant as we have of winning Lotto as my hormones have packed up and headed south, for good. I am just about to turn 40, he is in his mid 40′s, and we’re slowly getting used to the fact that we won’t have kids of our own – it’s not something you just accept overnight and don’t think about anymore, but there’s no point wallowing in a pit of sadness, it doesn’t change anything ! So we are getting on with a life filled with other experiences that include living as ex-pats working overseas for as long as we can and enjoying whatever kids come into our lives – through friends and people we meet in our travels. It’s not what we thought our next 20 years was going to look like, but we are looking ahead with a smile, and hope that we will make a positive difference or contribution in some way to whatever children’s life paths we cross.
You tell that to some people though and instead of being excited for us, all they have is a look of pity and comments about us not being a”mum, dad, parent” in the “traditional” way, to which I now reply – “our plan B will be rewarding and enriching in ways that plan A probably couldn’t have been”
We are playing the cards we’ve been dealt to get on with living a life we can look back on and reflect that we’ve had an amazing special time together and wouldn’t change a thing
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My mother’s aunt never had kids, but she’s been a second mother to her sisters kids, and a second grandmother to me. As far back as I can remember, she’s always been included in everything – if Gran was there, Aunty was too. I’d like to think we filled in any gap she may have felt not having a brood “of her own”, although how (as a grandkid) we could be more “hers” I really do not know.
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I totally agree that not having kids does not make you less of a woman and will challenge anyone who claims a woman without kids doesn’t have a fulfilled life. BUT! It does have to be said that only a parent (whether biological or legal guardian) can truly feel the sacrifice, love and workload that being a parent brings. Life is a lot easier without kids practically and I do sometimes envy women without children if only because they can do everything I get to do without the massive juggle and exhaustion. I admire women without children whether by choice or not as they must have to deal with a lot of judgement from those who believe children are a must.
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Yes – we get tons of judgement, and it can be isolating.
I wish there were non-mothers clubs out there.
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Oh I SO agree Karen!!!
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well let’s start one….bu we’ll need a cool name.
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How about The Selfish Women Who Don’t Know What Love Is?
It’ll be a struggle to get it on the T shirts, but I think it’s got a certain something.
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Both my sister and my youngest daughter didn’t marry or have children. But they are the most amazing aunties to my brood. They are fulfilled and have never regretted not being mothers, not as far as I know. My daughter is 39 now and I think if she met someone to settle down with she might consider having a child, if the body clock was still ok. It used to bother me that my sister didn’t have children but that was my own selfish reasons.
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Am I missing something?? How can your youngest daughter be an aunty to your kids?? *confused*
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I think she means an auntie to her grandkids.
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I’m almost 40 and I’m not going to have kids either. I have always known I never would have any and I’ve always been ok with it. Wasn’t until I got married last year, that I would get a fleeting thought that I am missing out on something and then I hear a child scream and remember that I am ok with having 3 dogs and 12 nieces and nephews!!! I guess it also helps that my husband already has 2 kids and can’t have anymore!! I think of all the things we have done and have planned to do and yep, I am happy not to have them.
I love being an Aunt. Love it. I became an Aunt for the first time when I was 7 years old. I am closer in age to the nieces and nephews than my brothers and sisters. With 2 nephews and one niece in particular, I was always around when they were little and I’ve spoiled them at Christmas and birthdays, always bought them something from an overseas trip, encouraged them in whatever they wanted to do, always watched them play sport (still do!!!), and I was always included in their lives (still am!!!) and my niece was my Maid of Honour last year. They’ve felt like they’re my own children at times and my sister always included me. I am so so proud of all of them.
Now one of my nephew’s has his own son and I am the coolest Great-Aunt!! He also gets spoiled, the same way I spoiled his dad.
I love this post. Thanks
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My BFF is turning 50 this year and doesn’t have kids. She is, however, the most amazing auntie to her brother’s kids and pseudo-auntie to a whole bunch of other kids in her life. For my daughter, she is an adult friend that listens to her in a way I (as her mum) can’t.
I think it’s really important for kids and teenagers to have a range of different people in their lives who provide balance and support especially because parents are often too close to the situation to see the whole story. I’ve been that person for a friend’s daughter, I had that growing up with one of my mum’s friends and now my daughter has it with my bestie.
That old saying ‘it takes a village to raise a child’ is so very true! Good on you for being an integral part of the village!
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Congrats on your honesty Serena!
I’m a younger mum ( had my first child in my mid 20′s ), and cop a fair bit of judgement from the other end. People often question my choice to have children young – yep, it’s outrageous. I’m someone who was lucky enough to want children & be in a relationship supportive of that – yet people question my age. I just wanted to let you know that someone on the other side praises you for being honest. I admire women who admit that it’s a choice to be childfree, and I certainly don’t see anything wrong with that.
I think there’s way too much pressure on women today – don’t have kids young, you should achieve x,y,z first or don’t leave it too late, you’ll miss the boat.
How about, we just do what feels right for us!
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I think once you reach your mid-30s, you have kids in your life whether you want to or not! You probably have nieces and/or nephews and cousins of all ages. Your friends have kids. Half the population is now younger than you. So, you need to become at least a little kid-friendly – if you’re not already.
I don’t have kids – mostly because I’ve never really had the option (I don’t have a partner). But I definitely feel as though I’ve got enough kid-action in my life. If I never have them, I think I’ll be okay. I also do volunteer work with underprivileged kids, which I really enjoy.
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It’s so damn weird how that time runs away from you…
I always I want to respond to The Kids Question with:
“Me? Oh God no. I’m too young!” or “I’ve got my career yadda, yadda”
Only now I’m heading to the older end of my 30′s and it kinda changes things…
But whatever happents: no regrets. None.
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This is beautiful, Serena – thank you.
My role as auntie to my sister’s children feels on a par with my motherhood, emotionally. That’s something I haven’t admitted ‘out loud’ to anyone but my sister, until now.
When my first niece was born, I burst into tears – not because I was thrilled for my sister (which of course I was) but because I was suddenly swept up in an unfathomably intense love for this little girl that equalled the love I feel for my own children. I worried about that!
When I confided in my sister, she said ‘That’s how I’ve been feeling about your children all these years – as though they are my own. It’s not about being less of a mum, it’s about being an amazing Auntie!’
So, my contribution to your story is that Aunties rock. You’re completely right that love is all that matters, and you’re surrounded by it. The line about your nephew’s surprise visit brought tears to my eyes.
Thank you so much for this post, and enjoy your 40s!! xo
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Thanks for posting this Emma.
My sister is currently pregnant with her first child (I have three) and she has been the most amazing aunty to my kids, she just loves them so much. I am an aunty to my husband’s sisters’ kids, and I love them, they are all great kids (and young adults!), but I don’t have that same rush of unbearable love as you do with your own, and I have been worried that I might not be able to love her kid as much as she loves mine!! Sounds ridiculous, but I just really want the bond with my sister’s child to be as great as the bond is between she and I. I guess however it goes it will be ok.
Sisters are great.
x
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Hi Kerryn,
I had nieces and nephews by marriage already too – but there was something different about it being my own sister. Felt like fewer degrees of separation … Funny how the mind works sometimes.
Enjoy it all! xo
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I got a more intense instant feeling of love when my nephew was born than either of my kids. Maybe its cos all I had was emotion – not stitches or partners or other things on the go. My love for my own kids was more of a slow burn over a few weeks whereas with my nephews it belted me in the face the minute I laid eyes on them.
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I have never felt that hunger for being a parent either. I envy those who do, I feel like I’m missing something. I have always felt more inclined to adopt but the process and cost terrifies me!
My partner of a very long time has just decided that he never wants to get married or have children. It’s only now that I’m thinking – am I okay with that? Really?
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Serena – I sense your story will be me in 20 years. I hope you are wonderful and successful and happy in your 60′s as I might need some words of advice to get me through that hurdle. That said, maybe society will have evolved by 2030 (ish) and we can be more open and accepting of different life choices for women. Maybe…
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Good on you Serena. I am a mother myself, and am one of those people who yearns for more children. But I admire you for being secure in your position and offering love to those in your life, regardless of where they came from.
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What an awesome piece Serena. You have summed up how I feel exactly.
And I could count at least 6 of my closest friends in the same boat.
I often feel as thought I missed out on something amazing,
but I always remind myself of the fantastic life I have led, and the wonderful kids I have in my life and I am fine with that.
I think everybody finds their role in life, and being the mad, naughty, fun aunty/godmother is the best one for me.
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This is me – I’d like to ‘like’ this response 10 times. Thanks, Well said and Serena, too.
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