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Angela

by ANGELA MOLLARD

“Hi honey, love your top,” I said, as the little girl I was collecting for a trip to the park, bounded down her front steps and hopped into the back seat next to my daughter.

“Thanks, it’s Fiona Scanlan. And my skirt is from Gap and my shoes are…” She pulls off a tiny silver ballet flat and peers inside. “Seed, yeah they’re from Seed.”

I glance in the rear-vision mirror at my own six-year-old, fully kitted out in a fine selection of hand-me-downs. Second child, you see. Fewer photographs. Fewer new frocks.

I channel the requisite guilt then laugh. After all, we’re off to the park, not the Oscars.

But now comes news that 94 per cent of mothers spend more on their child’s wardrobe than their own with nearly half feeling guilty about spending money on clothes for themselves.

According to the Daily Mail

A third of mothers would spend £100 on one item of clothing for their child, even though they will soon grow out of it. In comparison, they would only spend a measly total of £200 per year on clothes for themselves.

After getting voted the most stylish celebrity child, it was also found that 15 per cent of mothers look to emulate the way Victoria Beckham styles Harper.

The survey of 1,000 women aged between 18 and 55 also found that 47 per cent of mums set aside the time to shop for their child once a week or more in an attempt to make sure their children are following the latest fashion trends.

OK, you could dismiss this as Britain where they’re all a bit bonkers about the Beckhams and it’s so damn cold most of the year that a shopping mall is the only sensible place to hang out.

But it’s the same here at home, where the children’s wear market is booming, while most other clothing sectors struggle to make a buck. According to IBIS World, we spent $1.3 billlion on kid’s clobber last year and the number of children’s clothing lines continues to proliferate.

Now, despite being a proud member of the six per cent club (those who spend more on clothes for themselves than their kids), I don’t give a sparkly hairband if you’re one of those who spend more on their kids. Whatever. (Although, seriously, if you’re in the kids section in Country Road do yourself a favour and drop $50 on a new season canvas bag for yourself instead. The yellow, particularly, is sublime.)

victoria beckham $147 for one item of kids clothing. Would you?

Victoria Beckham with her well dressed daughter, Harper

But there are two things about this story that bother me. Firstly, kids are becoming far too aware of what they’re wearing and therefore destined to further the cycle of compulsive consumerism which Unicef, the UN children’s agency, fears is dominating family life.

When I recently heard two seven-year-old boys comparing the merits of Billabong over Element, I wanted to shout: “Go off and play in the mud.”

Likewise, this advert for an $89.95 “tile print frock” for a two-year-old left me pining for the 70s, when Mum would knock up our dungarees on the old Singer.

“This sweet little summer frock has such a fifties vibe that we are simply loving! A lovely navy and white tile print means any accessory will ‘pop’ when teamed up. A structured dress with cross over straps – complete with a retro inspired button feature at the back – fitted bodice, back zipper, belted waist and a full, circular knee length skirt with peplum underneath giving that extra fullness.”

Oh puhleese, what two-year-old accessorises? Where’s the “washes well, camouflages vegemite?” Now THAT, I would buy.

What worries me more is that if all these parents are spending up large on their kids, where’s the delayed gratification? Where’s the lessons learned in waiting, yearning, saving up for something? Where’s the joy in finally getting in your hands that special thing that’s lived for so long in your head.

When I was 13 I desperately wanted a pair of Skin jeans – skinny dark denim, white piping down the side. My best friend Jacinda had them but they were $60 – a fair whack in 1981. Mum refused to buy them for me and instead set me up with a clothing allowance. For three months I saved like mad, finally getting them in time for the school disco. Even now when I hear Blondie’s The Tide is High, I’m in those jeans, dancing with my mates.

Recently, my husband mentioned we should start saving to take the kids to Disneyland. “We could show them New York,” he added (it being the special place he took me for my 30th birthday). Noooooo. I was emphatic. New York is not a city you “do” or “see”. It’s a city you feel and you can’t do that until you’re old enough to have fallen in love.

I worry. I worry that childhood is becoming all “buying” and “doing” rather than just being. As Sue Palmer, author of Toxic Childhood, points out: “We are teaching our children, practically from the moment they are born, that the one thing that matters is getting more stuff.” Yet Unicef’s research found the happiest kids were those who spent time outdoors with their families, saved up to buy things and helped out with chores.

No mention at all of a Burberry trench in Size 4.

Here are some celebrity children who are raising the bar in the little-person fashion stakes:

Michelle Obama with Malia and Sasha

You can see more great pictures of celebrity parents and their well dressed kids over at our sister site iVillage.com.au here.

Angela Mollard is a Sydney-based journalist who has now combined motherhood with writing for magazines both in Australia and the UK. You can follow her on Twitter here.

How much do you spend on clothes for your kids? If you don’t have kids, how much do you think you’d spend?

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  1. guest

    I didnt know what a Brand name was when I was a kid, I am a 28yr old male and I told a 20yr old guy at work that I get my clothes from Target he looked disgusted and said he would never shop at Target, I swear a lot of the clothes he wears look the same as mine anyway they just have a “Brand” name on them.

    Not sure its a good idea to get kids to care more about the Brand than how they fit and look.

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    • misha

      Nothing wrong with Target (or “Tarjay” as my mother used to call it).

      I buy all my work clothes from Target and tell everyone.

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      • anonymous

        My work colleagues and myself joke all the time our items come from the Red Circle Boutique.

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    • ReeBee

      I’ve got clothes ranging from the expensive (Veronika Maine, Laura Ashley etc) to the mid range (Portmans) to the cheap (Target, Big W, K-Mart) in my wardrobe and the ironic thing is that most of the compliments I get are on the Target clothes!

      The other irony is that I noticed yesterday that one of my Veronika Maine dresses has a small tear in it and I’ve only had it about 8 or 9 months, yet my Target dresses I’ve had for a year and some I’ve had a couple of years are still going strong!

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      • Rara

        I always seem to get the most compliments on my cheapest wardrobe items.

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    • Emmy

      I bought an expensive pair of work pants from Cue. The material was horrid and soo uncomfortable (didn’t realise that when I tried them on, only after 8 hours at my desk!) bought a cheap pair from Target and they are divine. Just goes to show. Screw that guy….

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      • Tara

        I’d support Cue over Target any day – Australian made (from good-quality imported fabric), beautiful designs and flattering cut (in my experience that is!). Many of my dresses from there have lasted 4+ years – a lot longer than crappy Valleygirl/Temt/Cotton On…

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        • Camilla

          So true – I buy so much from Cue because it’s Australian made and the cut and quality are just so good. I have dresses that I’ve worn at least once a week to work (if not more) for the past 3 years, and they still look brand new. Most of their materials don’t need ironing too which is an absolute winner!

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        • Crackerpants

          So true. My money is never wasted at Cue. I love buying Australian made,the girls in the store always take the time to help me find the right clothes, the clothes last and last, and the vast majority of my purchases are on sale at 30-50% off. Same for Veronika Maine (I think they’re the same company?)

          As for my kids though, it’s a whole mixture – whatever I can find that fits the bill, and preferably on sale! Mosty Target and PP and Myer brands for my daughter, sprout and PP for y son. And lots of Grandma’s creations.

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  2. lozzie

    When they were younger I bought my kids clothes from St Vinnies or Kmart, I was never into labels.
    However, now that my son is an almost teen, I buy most of his clothes from Rebel Sport. He is very sporty and just loves their clothes. But he understands that their clothes & shoes (especially shoes) are expensive and he always puts a some of his pocket money or birthday gift cards towards whatever item we buy from Rebel.
    Also, I dont buy alot of clothes, just the absolute bare minimum that he needs and he wears them to death. So if you look at cost per wear, we come in front. Plus his cousin is one year younger and his outgrown clothes are handed down so that is a bonus. He loves seeing his cousin wear his old clothes again.
    As for my daughter, she is the opposite, but in my mind more costly. She buys alot of cheap items for $15 or $20 but never ends up wearing them.
    For womens fashion, you need to return them within 2 weeks which is not practical so she ends up with alot of cheap but unworn clothes which is very frustrating and costly.

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  3. missamoo

    I was very, very lucky as a child and all my shoes and some of my clothes came from my Nonno’s yearly trip to Italy. So while I had beautiful unique clothes and gorgeous leather shoes they may as well have been Big W for all I could brag about. Mum also sewed and knitted a lot of our clothes but she taught me how to be be creative with your budget. Lucky school taught me tailoring, Nonna taught me embroidery/ darning and Mum taught me to knit. I can only spend loads of money on something that is too time consuming to make or true quality and construction

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    • Kris2040

      Mum made most of our stuff when we were kids too – school uniforms as well. I don’t know that you can even get the material and patterns from schools anymore to do that. She made our formal dresses too.
      And it was exciting to get birthday and Xmas present clothes from Target!
      I don’t like KMart much, they do a bit too much of the “Daddy’s Little Princess” crap, but sometimes find OK plain stuff there. Same for Best and Less. Target usually is pretty good, and Big W. Pumpkin Patch on sale and Myer on sale (both seem to be on sale all the time anyway).

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      • Cordeline

        We had a green jumper as part of my first primary school uniform. I remember being the only kid in the class who didn’t have the regular ‘uniform’ jumper but instead a hand-knitted cardi from my Nan (god bless her). I so longed to have a shop-bought jumper like everyone else and my hand-knitted piece was never more evident that in the Prep class photo!

        I laugh now of course but god it really made me feel insecure as a 5/6 year old. How crazy.

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        • Amandarose

          iAmandaroseI had the knitted school jumper too! hated it. And my mum sewed random bright yellow button on my school dress instead of blue like everyone else.
          then the crochet granny square poncho with matching beret instead on a Japara. primary school may have been th most cringeworthy years of my life.
          my sister had the sense to hide her poncho in a bush on the way to school. I was to much of a goodie two shoes!

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          • Guest

            When I was 16, my parents sent to visit the relatives in England for a white Christmas.

            My mum knitted me a bright blue jumper that had an enormous koala on it. it was oversized (80s fashion). I think Princess Di may have even worn something similiar.

            I loved it because it was aussie, made of wool and really warm.

            I still have it.

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        • Kris2040

          Yep, Nan (and my great grandmother too, I think) used to knit our jumpers as well. Mum knits for the kids now too.

          My great grandmother lived till she was 106 (literally- she died on the day before her birthday) and she used to knit booties and bonnets and stuff for the Pop to take to the Kids’ Hospital every year.
          I had to take KDot to the hospital after a fall on Sunday, and the nurse gave her a knitted teddy from the Red Cross, so it was a nice reminder of GG and also nice to know that people still do this!

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          • Anonymous

            My Nan and great grandmother (we called her ‘Old Nan’) used to knit for the Red Cross too! I loved staying with her and walking down the country town to the Red Cross building and seeing everything the Nanas used to make. Always a lovely reminder, I agree!

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    • Faybian

      Mum was a qualified dressmaker and so we had a lot of handmade clothes as kids and she helped me make my girls junior bridesmaid and flower girls dresses. She badgered me into doing a “knit wits” course in stretch sewing, which also taught me how to use draft patterns. Vogue patterns, which can be the amongst hardest to make are achievable now.

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      • missamoo

        In year 10 we learned old school tailoring techniques, makes all those patterns really easy. Totally glad that my catholic high school thought it was an important to teach ladies to sew

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  4. Natasha

    Great article! My kids wear everything from witchery kids to big w! Brand names are sometimes cheaper than target when they’re on an extra special! I can honestly say I’ve never bought anything for them full price from COUNTRY ROAD or Witchery!

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  5. Anon

    ‘washes well & camouflages vegemite’ haha. Classic.

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  6. KateA

    You could look at this another way. Buying expensive items doesn’t equate with more waste. In fact, high quality apparel may actually be more energy efficient if it is worn a lot and passed on. Some handmade, organic stuff is more likely to have been produced ethically and less likely to have been produced in a Chinese sweatshop.

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  7. Cordeline

    My girls (aged 3 and 5) wouldn’t have a clue what brand their clothes are or which brands were ‘better’ than others. They do take an interest in what they wear though. The love dresses and skirts, despite my dressing them in jeans and trackies till 2 years of age!

    On our busy weekday mornings I have already laid their clothes out for them to get dressed – saves any hassle. But otherwise, they like to choose their own clothes at times. And oh my, what, um, interesting – yes, that’s the word, they often come up with! Gumboots with tutu’s and beanies to go to the farmer’s market. Summer skirt with woolen tights and several layers of tops on a freezing cold day.

    It’s perfectly obvious to most people out there whether has been ‘dressed by self’ or by mum!

    All that said, I do love some of the kids clothes out there. But I have rarely pay full price for any kids clothes and they are nearly all from cheap shops anyway.

    A little tradition I have started is that they receive a new summer dress at Christmas time which I really love. And the best thing about having girls is that dresses can last up to 3 years before they grow out of them!

    I LOVE the clothes in Seed… but I always look at them and think that I love them because I would wear the styles and fabrics myself! And even though the kids can look really sweet in those outfits, do I really want my own kids to be dressed as mini-adults. Answer is no.

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    • Cordeline

      Argh! So many typos above and no Edit button to fix them. Sorry everyone!

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  8. Bus girl

    On the weekend I had a little clean out. One of the items was my 5 year old daughters favorite dress. It started off loose and the straps wouldn’t stay up as she was too little for a size 3 and ended up being worn as a very tight “smock” with leggings at least once a week up to age 5. Looked a bit like a sausage skin on her rather than the loose number of a couple of years ago. We were asked many times where we got it. It was $4 at the Best and Less outlet store.

    You just have to keep your eyes open!

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    • Cordeline

      So agree with the dress thing with girls. I gave my eldest a dress for Christmas when she was about to turn 3, a size 3 dress. It was long and floaty then and this coming summer she will turn 6 and will still be wearing it and it’s kind of below-the-knee length! Lots of her dresses have worked out like that.

      Only downside is that I thought I would have then hand down to her sister but I am having to get her some of her own things. Still it’s going to be one or the other!

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  9. Susan

    My kids have always been dressed in second hand clothes for much of their toddler years and even now at 17, 18 & 18 are buying from second hand markets and shops, with the occasional Kmart, Target or maybe new from markets.

    They have been buying their own clothes for a while now.

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  10. jenomi

    I read this article and thought, phhh, how ridiculous! Who spends that kind of money on kids clothes! Outrageous! Then I spent the next 20 minutes taking note of the various online kids clothing stores that are mentioned in the comments and realised I am one of those people. Ah well.

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  11. Mor

    “Kids are becoming far too aware of what they’re wearing.”

    How ironic coming from you, Angela. Your first words to the little girl were “Hi honey, I like your top”!!!!

    How about trying “Hi honey, looking forward to the outing?” or “Hi honey, we were just discussing (insert topic), what do you think about that?” or any other topic that is not about her appearance!

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    • Angela Mollard

      Spot on Mor! You’re right – the stuff that slips out and the message it sends! Must be more careful.
      That said, I think clothes are fun and kids should enjoy them but just not be so brand/price aware at such a young age.

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    • Anonymous

      Could not agree more! Infact, it was very irritating to read the greeting to the little girl.

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  12. carla83

    it’s not for the kids is it? but if someone wants to spend their money on their child in this way, it certainly doesn’t affect me.

    I buy kids clothes from target for my niece and friends kids. I love buying them cute little outfits, noone i know cares about the brand

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  13. jb expat

    I spend a lot on my little boy’s organic food…but I spend very little on his 2nd hand clothes (and, if you are wondering, I am not a crunchy/granola type in any respect – I use that term in the nicest sense as my beloved sister is). My theory is that he needs 1 nice “show off” outfit per season/size (and this doesn’t mean designer) and anything else has to be clean/functional/comfortable/not torn…well, not in a way that nana can’t mend…I have become the person who gets to 2nd hand children’s markets 5 minutes after opening and buys a season or two worth of clothes for a FRACTION of store prices (and, the stuff is pretty nice – you see a lot of the upmarket labels at these markets). And I get so excited about it! OH – but he does have very expensive shoes…but not designer…I just wanted good shoes fitted by a specialist that were made of breathable fabric (leather).

    He’s only a little boy of 19 months, but I hope to get away with this for as long as possible.

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    • Emmy

      What’s a crunchy/granola type??

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  14. Angie

    I used to spend money like this on my older daughter when she was an only child (up to the age of 3). Once the second child came along I woke up to myself! There was just no need to spend such a large amount of money. If you can afford it and want to then I guess it’s your prerogative though.

    For me, I found it was putting pressure on my family budget for no good reason. Now when I shop I use a few tricks to get better deals:

    1. Shop for a whole season in one go – I spend less overall than if I were buying a few things here and there.

    2. Shop to a list. Obvious, but important.

    3. Only buy items on sale (you can do this up to a year in advance if you know roughly how often your child goes up a size).

    This often means getting last seasons things but who cares about that really? Pumpkin Patch have awesome sales, as do Myer and DJ’s. Target is great for basics like leggings, sleepwear and underwear and they have sales on all the time too. I have bought numerous pairs of jeans and dresses at both for less than $20 per item and they are brand name. One example is a Little Leona dress from Myer for my 4 YO that was $19 – it was a ruffly red chiffon-y number and looks lovely on her. Still brand name, but more than 50% off.

    4. Buy well known brands wherever possible. In my experience they do last longer.

    My younger daughter wears primarily hand me downs (except for shoes) and you would never know it as the clothes are still often in excellent condition.

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  15. Mary

    I trawl through Savers and buy up on second hand clothes. Often very good brands and next to new. My son is 4 and could not care what he wears as long as it does not inhibit the climbing and jumping. They grow out of clothes so fast I can’t justify paying top dollar for them.

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    • ab

      Love love love Savers!!!

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  16. Benita (MissBenben)

    My kids are only aged 5, 6 and 7 so they’re quite happy to let me choose their clothes (for now!) I’m a single mum and working part time so money’s always tight, and the little buggers keep growing, so obviously for us, there’s never going to be any $140 tops in their tiny wardrobes. I love a good bargain, but I also am a bit fussy (can’t stand those horrible boys shirts with the ugly plastic motifs on them. They’re a bitch to launder and when it starts to peel off it looks dreadful).

    Because I live in the sticks, most of my shopping has to be done online anyway, and I’ve personally found the best line of kids clothes online that ticks all my boxes – great price, great styles, great quality – is Next Direct. Another good one is Charlie & Me. Have bought most of my kids’ clothes from both of these stores and they haven’t let me down.

    Like a few others have said, you can get stylish kids’ clothes in the cheaper stores. And on the odd occasion where they’ve been wearing something expensive, the poor little buggers are afraid to do anything kid-like, for fear their angsty mother will yell at them for spilling something on their Very Expensive Dress. Best for everyone in my family that our clothes are stylish, but cheapish.

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  17. Ithinknot

    We live O/S and in a large expat community and it blows me away how much these kids have. iPads, iPhones, the latest computers, everything! And designer clothes. My daughter is 11 and doesn’t have any of it because she doesn’t need it! She is a sporty kid verging on a tomboy. She would like some of these things but will it make her happier, I think not! Really if they have everything now what will they be like when they older. Shallow and boring I suspect. I want my kids to look nice but not at those prices. It’s good for them to learn how to dress well without spending a fortune. Hopefully they will be grounded.

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  18. Sally Hepworth

    I love buying my kids gorgeous clothes. Not “designer”, but I do love a Seed, Country road and even the odd Jacadi item. I also buy a lot from Target and Big W and team them with nicer items. And so what? It’s my money, right? Everyone is free to waste their money however they see fit. I like seeing my kids in lovely clothes.

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  19. Leela

    There are plenty of stores that make very stylish kiddie clothes. Cotton On Kids, Target, Best & Less,
    If you’re the Pumpkin Patch type (who even notices that the kids are wearing PP??) try DFOs, wayyy cheaper.

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  20. anon

    ahhhhh looks like spam filter ate my comment!

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  21. Anonymous

    My mum used to style me beautifully … hats, overalls, dresses, dungarees, all from prodigy, pumpkin patch, esprit, osh-cosh, run scotty run. But I grew up in a fashionable part of inner Melbourne. ALL the kids were dressed well. I didn’t care back then but now I have some truly lovely pictures from before I was about eight or nine and started dressing myself *shudder* but my mum dresses beautifully even now as a 60 year old woman. And I never get complaints about my outfits either, so i think her style has rubbed off.

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  22. Deanna

    My son has a few “designer” outfits for going out but even then its Guess (although I picked up some cheap Tommy Hilfiger and DKNY stuff on a recent trip to Hawaii). Otherwise, all his clothes are from the chain department stores. My view, Best and Less have the best stuff for kids. Their clothes last, don’t fade or lose shape and are cheap as. $5 for tracksuit pants that will only be worn for 5-6 months – you can’t go wrong

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    • B

      This is my problem!!! What bother when kids are only in them for 5 minutes? My son grows so fast I can barely get through a season without going to the next size up.

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      • Deanna

        Trust me, hit up best and less. They also have some really cute going out clothes as well. I don’t mind how fast my son grows when its only costing me $5 per item. K Mart isn’t bad either, but I just don’t think the clothes are as cute

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        • Sara h

          Once my daughter hit Sven I found best and less thought she was a street walker! I can buy patch on line sales nice and cheap and my daughter looks nice and seven!

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          • JosieY

            Poor Sven! How does he feel about all that?

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  23. Angelina Ballerina

    This is madness.
    My kids wear hand me downs and clothes from Target, Big W and even Best and Less and Coles.
    Most extravegant purchase was an elf onesie from Target last Christmas.

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  24. Queenoftherant

    This is a great article. Thank you.

    I have seen children of friends a little older than me who seem to dress vicariously through their daughters, in the latest trend fashions they seem to think they are too old for. Unfortunately these clothes are far more age-inappropriate for these 4-5 year olds, who are ridiculously aware of what they are wearing and how ‘fashionable’ it is. I do worry that these girls are being instilled with the wrong ideas about what makes a person truly beautiful.

    BTW, there is no scope for imagination in fancy pants clothes – it is so much easier to pretend to be a doctor/firewoman/teacher/dancer etc in a nice, versatile pair of trackies and comfy shoes!

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  25. anon

    I think a bit of balance is fine. If all their peers are wearing Country Road and Witchery Kids you dont want to make them feel like orphan Annie by putting them in discount store clothes all the time. Feeling like they belong is important to kids and a label here and there isnt going to kill them, but it will make them feel happy.
    My sister in law as an example is making her poor 15yo daughter feel exactly like orphan Annie. She is old enough to be aware of labels, but her mum (who has nothing but the best herself) has an issue with buying expensive clothes for her daughter. So the poor kid wears the cheapest clothes she can find from discount racks at KMart etc..and when she mentions that one of her friends got a dress from Industrie or a jumper from Billabong her mum just says oh we dont do designer lables in our house…Well actually mum does, mum is dripping in them, the poor kid who is desperate to fit in with her friends doesnt.

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    • carla83

      My mother was just like this and it was tough to deal with. I feel for your niece.

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    • Anonymous

      the daughter needs to get a job…my mum was the same, I marched off and got myself a part time job. taught me that brand names don’t come cheaply!

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      • May!

        My parents always made sure I had more than enough clothes, but mum was never going to just buy me a billabong top for the sake of it- she would have for my birthday, but not just because I saw one I liked and wanted it. It was one of the main reasons a went out and got a job as soon as I could! Nothing wrong with 15yo kids working 8hrs on a weekend at Maccas to pay for their own luxuries!

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        • Sara h

          I disagree, child should concentrate on their education and not be working

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          • May!

            I know this is off topic but I have to say I respectfully but strongly disagree with you. Three of my mates (who attended an average joe public school with me) got OP 1′s and they all had part time / weekend jobs.

            Most people in my grade had some sort of job, and those who didn’t work because they wanted to focus on study went absolutely mental in grade 12 when studying was the only thing they could think about. Having a job doesn’t just teach teenagers about budgeting and the value of money – it taught me about managing my time to find balance between study/ work/ socialising, about responsibility, and if anything motivated me to study more because I knew education was my ticket out of working as a dishy/ checkout chick/ Maccas girl forever.

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          • Rara

            Teenagers learn very valuable early life lessons and work ethic through part time jobs. I think it is a highly valuable experience.

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  26. Tracey

    “According to IBIS World….”

    What is IBIS World?! I’m imagining a planet of long beaked birds but I’m sure that’s not it…

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    • Nat

      I do spend more money on clothes for my 3 kids then myself… But they do not wear brand name clothes, unless target Kmart big w myer n pumpkin patch are included… If I’m honest my new fave place to get then unique things is etsy or made it

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  27. beee

    Has anyone in Brisbane seen the new Carindale!?!! The whole extension is Seed for kids, Pumpkin Patch, Build-A-Bear-Workshop, Adairs Bedding for Kids, Cotton on Kids, Gumboots, Eeni Meeni Miini Moh, etc etc!

    I was so jealous that all the kids got the new stores and we just got a renovated Valley Girl – boooo. Bit of a waste of space really. Half the time kids couldnt care less what they wear and grow out of things so fast!

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    • MM

      “Just a renovated Valley Girl?!”
      Are you sure you have been to the new Carindale? There’s loads of new stores there for adults and waaay more still to open.

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      • Bee

        Hehe I was exaggerating a tad but still a stupid amount of kids stores!!

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  28. alyssakt

    R I D I C U L O U S
    Expensive clothes should be well-made, classic, investment pieces,
    or a crazy splurge for a beautiful garment so that you shine when you most desire,
    or something that is required by your profession or passion, making the cost insignificant/necessary

    NOT for a baby/small child who will outgrow them almost as soon as you walk out of the store.
    Designer shoes for babies who can’t even walk yet?
    Designer clothes in sizes 0-6?

    Some people need their HEADS READ

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    • Sammy

      Well, in our extensed family lots of children have expensive, high quality clothing in small sizes – they then get passed through 6 girls by the time they get to the youngest (cousins). We see these as worthy investments because the clothes still look beautiful after 6 or more seasons of wear – and the European classic pieces still look timeless and new even 15 years later, which is the stretch between the oldest cousin and the youngest.

      So, it’s not always a matter of things getting wasted if they are grown out of – most people I know pass everything along!

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      • alyssakt

        Hi Sammy
        So… “well-made, classic, investment pieces”?

        Glad to hear you’re all getting good use out of the garments – I wouldn’t bet every “trendy” family is as keen to share as yours :)

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  29. Katie

    I have spent over $147 on one piece of clothing – a divine tutu for my baby girl ( in size 4 though – I want her to get some wear!) I am shamelessly one of the 96%. I had two boys first and did buy them some pretty gorgeous clothes but now that I have a girl I’ve definitely been guilty of going a bit overboard in the clothes buying area! I enjoy dressing her in nice clothes. Perhaps I’ll change when she’s older and she wrecks her clothes more but for now I’m happily dressing my little 9 month old in delicious threads! That said, I’m not totally focused on brands – her onesie that gets the most comments was from Target…….super cute!!

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  30. Dear to my heart

    Off topic but oh how I love your comment about New York/Manhattan. It is a place you need to long to visit, not just a stop over on your itinerary. Hence our decision to show our kids Australia and let them save to travel to where their heart truely desires.

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  31. Trudes

    My daughter is 15 and is no brand slave. Being 15 she’s a bit of a fashionista – but loves to head to the markets, Valley Girl (awesome stuff at bargain prices!) and good old K-Mart and creates her own outfits. Recently we put her on an allowance ($85 a week) but from that she has to pay for all her own clothing (except school stuff) and all her own entertainment. She has become far more understanding of the worth of a dollar now! Its very satisfying to see her saving for things she really wants – and realising the quality, range or fit is not compromised because it has a “label” on it.

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    • sassy

      $85 a week?! I worked three days a week from 3pm to 8pm for $15 a night on a family milk run. That’s $45 a week. That was for grade 12. From age 11 – 16 I just did it (plus normal chores) because it was how my family survived. And I did pay for my school stuff. I paid for my own school football team shirt but when I told my coach I wouldn’t have the money for it until Monday because of my agreement with Dad, my coach paid for it himself and I paid him back because he respected how hard I worked and my attitude.

      It sounds like she’s not spoilt since she’s not into brand names but at 15 and getting paid $85 a week I sincerely hope your daughter is doing heaps of chores to earn that sort of amount and has a healthy savings account that will enable her to buy her own car when she turns 17. :)

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      • Trudes

        Thanks Sassy for your comments. Clearly you’ve never been to a movie lately, bought a birthday gift for a friends birthday, or purchased a CD (all normal teenage things as it happens!). $85 doesn’t exactly go a long way! But as you’re interested – yes she does an enormous amount of chores at home and also works in our business in the school holidays. And FWIW has saved $300 towards our holiday next year. I assure you she is FAR from spoilt – you should be so lucky to have her!

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        • Anonymous

          Cd for $20, although most kids buy on iTunes which is cheaper.
          Student discount at movies and do kids not go and watch DVDs at friends houses anymore?
          I think $50 would be ample as really kids don’t need to go out every weekend with their friends, they see them five days a week at school (or less if out of school friends).
          Good on her for getting $85 though!

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        • sassy

          I wasn’t having a go. I was just saying how hard I had to work for half that amount. I said it sounded like she is not spoilt as she isn’t into brand names, but just hoping she was grounded enough to be saving with such a big amount of money too. You see, I couldn’t have your daughter as I would have been 9 when I had her!

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      • Trude

        Good lord! So many Judge Judy’s out there! I would be very interested to know how many of you commenting ACTUALLY have a teenage daughter?? Or are just remembering how hard you had it in the “olden days” (when you had to walk 10 miles in your brothers shoes to get a loaf of day old bread!). For those who do have a teenage daughter I challenge you to keep a tally of just how much you actually spend over the next two months – and I mean on EVERYTHING…..cosmetics, clothes, magazines, school tuckshop, tampons, bus fares, shampoo, cash for a sleepover, savings – EVERYTHING. I think you will be shocked. Until then – you can keep your judgements (or reminiscences)! My daughter is awesome & DOES know the value of money, how to save & how to budget!

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        • Sara h

          Had two teens now young adults have two more to go all girls and at 15 there were no cosmetics, rarely a mag why buy trash when a library card is free, cash for a sleep over wtf? I dropped them off they slept, toiletries we brought, they never had pocket money nor jobs as they needed to concentrate on study… I think people are insulted because for some Australians this is there weekly grocery budget and it’s also a ridiculous amount for a 15 year old there simply can’t be enough chores at home to justify

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        • KTT

          Geez can everyone just take a breath and get off Trudes back. Take a chill pill, have a cuppa and go lie down. Sounds like she’s doing a sterling job raising her 15yr old. Just cause you think 85 bucks is too much, then don’t give it to your kid. Settle down.

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          • Freja

            Maybe they’re a little upset they never got $85 p/week as teenagers? ;)

            (kidding, kidding)

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        • Kathy W

          How about she gets a job? Isn’t that a better way to teach budgeting and saving as well as personal responsibility rather than mum and dad coughing up the cash?
          My 16 year old son works two jobs, he budgets his own money and buys all his own luxuries (phone bills included), It also helps that we live in the country and there’s not a lot to do out here – but that’s also a blessing as the beach is free

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          • Trude

            Kathy I fully support YOUR CHOICE to allow your son to have two jobs. MY choice is to not have my daughter in a formal job as at this time we view her education & studies as more important. However, we did want to show her how important it was to know how to save & budget. She does LOTS of jobs in our home &, as I said previously, works in our business in the school holidays. I’m sure you think you’re doing the best for your child….well so do I!!

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            • Kathy W

              So you view her education and studies as more important, huh?
              Seems she is spending an awful lot of her study time socialising and splashing cash on sleepovers. Well, good for YOUR choice too.

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          • Anonymous

            Who says she spends time socialising & splashing cash on sleepovers? Wow you do like to judge don’t you! You know nothing about my daughter or her lifestyle. And yes I DO value her (straight A) grades above a part time job. You seem to have taken offense at how I choose to parent my child. I would never advocate there is only “one size fits all” way. I would hope you would afford me the same courtesy.

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    • mrsmac

      $85 a week?! Hope my daughter doesn’t see this!

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    • Kate

      holy cow! $85 a week!?!?! I used to get $15 a week, and had to pay for all of that. I thought I was amazing when I got my first job and was making $50 a week and could suddenly pay for all sorts of stuff without SAVING for it.

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      • Leela

        Can I just say that $85 a week doesn’t go a long way these days… very different than years ago.
        I got $30 a week about 10 years ago and it was nothing. Mascara costs you $20, Phone credit $30, Movies $15+food, etc.
        And good on her for doing chores and learning how to save.
        Nobody is to judge a parents decision.

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        • Leela

          My 16 year old sister gets $70 a week (almost 3x as much as I did 10 years ago). So I asked her what she spent it on in the last average week…

          $20 topping up MYKI (bus/train ticket) a week. (daily bus to school plus weekend trips)

          $10 snacks for school/home.

          $10 savings account

          $20 weekend spending – movies, lunch/dinner, gift, drinks or shopping

          $10 something small – nail polish, dvd, make-up or nothing.

          I know if I added my weekly random spending I would find that the most money goes to the smallest things!

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    • Jane

      $85 A WEEK?!?!?!? Seriously???? And yes, I have been to a movie lately (today), and bought birthday gifts (on the weekend) and CD’s (last week) and all those things 15 year olds want.

      I second what mrsmac said above … really hope my kids don’t see this!

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      • Camilla

        I know! For me movies were a really special thing, not a once a week necessity and CDs were a birthday and Christmas treat!

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    • gab

      wowsa 85 a week last year i was getting $170 a week as a 20 year old who travelled to and from the city 3 days a week ate out for lunch every day of the week and had a very hectic, social life on the weekends spent in bars and night clubs, and alway seemed to have nice new clothes. i dont know how i did all that with an extra 85 dollars. im not being judgy judgy im actually just curious as to what she spends it on

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    • Cat

      Am I the only one who doesn’t think $85 a week is a big deal?
      I had a job at woolworths after school at 15 and earned more than $85 (Mum didn’t make me earn it through chores as she had a cleaning lady) and it’s not exactly a massive amount of money – at 15 you’re becoming a young adult socializing more. By the sounds of things her daughter seems sensible, putting some aside for family holidays… so maybe it’s teaching her to save.
      Either way, it’s Trude’s daughter and her decision how she parents.

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    • a

      oh boy, $85!! Haha, I lived off that amount a week during uni.

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      • Camilla

        Ditto! Less sometimes…

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    • Angie

      When I was 15 my pocket money was whatever I could earn myself from a job in retail AND I had to buy all my own undies, socks, clothing, books, pay for entertainment – basically everything except for formal dresses and school uniforms. My parents weren’t wealthy and had 3 kids in private school so that was our deal. They paid for our education and gave us a home and we paid for our incidental costs. I tell you what, I learned a lot from that experience.

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    • lozzie

      Well, I have a 15 year old daughter and I think $85 is about right.
      My daughter is very social and its costing me a fortune! Everytime she goes out its $20 plus travel ie iceskating $20 + travel, 3D movie $20+ travel, social get-together $20+ travel.
      She doesnt get an allowance but if I worked out how much I have handed out over the past 12months it would average about that.
      I prefer that she is out safely socialising than being home glued to the laptop.

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      • Lizzie

        Well, “going out” (movies, ice skating, 3d movies) and things like downloading music, buying CDs, magazines and presents aren’t NEEDS. The child will not expire if they can;t do them, or have to save up their own money to do them. They’re fun and no one is denying kids should have fun, but why should mum & dad pay for little Tiffany to go out with her friends, go to a movie, get takeaway and buy a present for her BFF Emily?

        Especially at 15. IMO, 15 is old enough to get a job. It’s old enough to start to learn how to save up for things, how to earn things and you certainly start to evaluate what you “want” versus what you “need” when it’s coming from money YOU earnt, rather than out of mum’s bottomless wallet.

        I remember BEGGING mum to get me a billabong school bag because it was “the” brand at the time. Mum’s answer was “If you save up, you can buy your own. If I am buying, you’ll be getting the generic “school” (school colour, school logo on it, ultimate dagginess, yet A LOT cheaper than the surf brand bags) bag”. At the time, I was LIVID. How DARE she make me a social outcast!

        Now, I totally support it. A daggy school logo’d bag would have held my books and lunch box. Perfectly well. The surf bags were no better. You were just paying double for the logo on the front of it.

        (For the record, I saved up my own money and got the billabong bag, lol)

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        • Lozzie

          Never got into an argument on mama mia before and dont really want to start now but

          This article is not about NEEDS.

          its about parents spending more on kids than themselves.

          The question was “how much do you spend on clothes for your kids?”

          There is no suggestion from Trudes or myself that spending that amount per month is a NEED.

          Fully aware that fashion & entertainment are luxuries not necessities.

          If you take away the horror at the amount that Trudes quoted, you would see that giving a teen a set amount per week is a great idea.

          It teaches them budgeting. she has to stick to that budget no matter what. Once the money is gone, its gone.

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          • Lizzie

            I agree. A set amount weekly for the child is a great idea.

            My beef is that IN MY OPINION $85 is an obscene amount for a 15 year old. Especially for a child that is old enough to get a job to pay for her own wants.

            And wants vs needs is relevant when talking about expensive clothing vs target/big w.

            Disagree with me, that’s fine.
            Just don’t be upset with me disagreeing with you.

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          • Kathy W

            You must live in the city – out here in ‘the sticks’ our teenagers go surfing, go to the beach, go fishing and watch movies at each other’s houses. No need for heavy duty amounts of cash as there is nothing to buy except some hot chips at the local shop.

            $85 a week may be normal and acceptable to you but really….teens can and do get by without it.

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            • Trude

              Kathy next time my daughter pays for her own underwear, haircut or bus ticket – I’ll let her know she should do without it!! Good grief!

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            • Kathy W

              What the??? I was talking about the NON essentials – like movies, CDs, makeup – they are all choices – not essentials.

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    • Lozzie

      Mia, maybe this could be a future topic?

      Pocket money & part time jobs

      Are teens getting too much & doing too little?

      Certainly gets a response.

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      • Mia

        Good idea!!!!

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        • Anna

          $85/week? I would struggle to spend that much on myself each week and I am in my 20′s. Teenagers want a lot of things, they do not actually need them. But it sounds like she is working for it at home!

          I think it is important to teach children to save, as well. When I was a teenager I worked at Pizza Hut – wasn’t making a good wage, but most of what I made went into savings for university. After I graduated from university, that money paid for rent for a bit. Gave me time to look for a good job. Teenagers need a focus past their social life and immediate wants.

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  32. Olivia

    My Mum loves buying clothes for my kids. Her go- to shops are Country Road and Seed. I couldn’t care less what they wear, the just happen to have a lot of very nice and relatively expensive clothes!
    I would never pay for expensive clothes for my kids when they’re just going to ruin them and/ or grow out of them without wearing them enough. I really think its a waste of money.
    Having said that I do enjoy buying clothes for my kids more than I do buying them for myself. And all I can say is thank god I have boys or we would be broke!!

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    • Lozzie

      When my kids were little, we moved interstate, and my mum would send me “care packages” of pumpkin patch clothes for my daughter Mum just loved buying pumpkin patch clothes for her first grand-daughter.

      Mum couldnt believe that I willingly chose to dress my daughter in St Vinnies or other 2nd hand clothes. When I was a baby she couldnt afford new clothes and St Vinnies was her only option.

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  33. Rara

    I agree with you 100 per cent! Angela – where can we find this report from UNICEF? I would be very interested to read it.

    My opinion is that kids should have one or two nice outfits for parties and going out in my opinion and the rest should be stuff they can climb trees, play with puppies and get grass stains on. Target has perfectly fine kids clothes and often big sales.

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  34. Bec

    Maybe it’s a girl thing… My 3 boys wouldn’t have a clue what they were wearing. My 12 year old has a faded Nike basketball Tshirt I can’t get him out of. My 7 year old lives in a hand me down Wallabies jersey. My toddler is the only one who will let me dress him so I do take advantage and splash out on Gumboots clothing for him – I love their style! My boys all have Gap jeans but that’s cause My husband went to the outlets in Orlando on a business trip and wasn’t sure of sizes so picked up a random assortment. Four years later we are still making use of them. I like to buy them quality rather than quantity so do tend to buy from places like gumboots as they last longer. I have tried the Big W and Kmart gear and it doesn’t last. Target is great for the basics. Overall I probably still spend more on me as I have to dress well for work and my boys wear a school uniform which alleviates the need to buy them new things all the time.

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    • Lynne

      Not a girl thing – only cultural. They wouldn’t know the brand if the parents hadn’t told them in the first place…

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  35. Tripitaka

    I love buying kids clothes, it’s so easy and fun. But my kids have no clue about brand names, I would feel awful if I heard them talk about Seed shoes, etc. it seems so shallow.

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  36. cher

    My favourite saying:

    He (or she) who has everything values nothing.

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  37. Lou16

    My kids are 10 & 7, and at this age are still happy with Target and Big W (we live in a regional area and have been fortunate to find there isn’t the competitivenes I hear about from my friends in cities). My kids wouldn’t know fancy brand names if they fell over them which is just fine with me!

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  38. Bradley

    No !

    It has been my personal experience to find that a couple of children that I regularly come into contact with know everything about their clothing. Brand, price and store where mother bought it.

    They know bugger all else that might help them get through a day in the big wide world. Their shoes have higher IQ’s.

    I recently heard someone say, “the fool knows the price of everything and the value of nothing”.

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