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P1010900 380x483 My dogs are my kids.

Avi and her two dogs.

by AVI VINCE

Fear not.  This is not a post on how I treat my dogs like children or what I dress my dogs in (I leave that to Paris Hilton) or how I carry my dogs everywhere in an oversized bag (again Paris Hilton) or that I think having dogs is exactly like having children.

I am fully aware that having children is far more hard work than having dogs.  Dogs at least don’t talk, can walk from the minute they are born and don’t try to kill themselves by flinging themselves down the stairs when you are running after the other dog.

However, anyone who has dogs knows that there are a few similarities.

You still have to toilet train dogs – it is just that you don’t order your child to go outside to do their business.  And prior to them learning where the appropriate place to do their business is, you have to wipe up their number ones, number twos and number threes (don’t ask).

You still need to prepare all their meals and drinks for them.  They just don’t get it in a lunch tin and they don’t get a juice box.  As a dog parent, you still need to make sure you are home to give them their daily meals.  Just like small children, they can’t feed themselves.  But unlike children, no matter how old they get, they still can never feed themselves.  Actually, I take that back…some kids never learn to feed themselves.

Just like kids, you need to teach them manners.  For example, to not bark while you are on the phone, to not “accidentally” forget where to do their business, to not beg for treats and to not destroy the house while you do your number ones.  Almost the same, just for dogs we call these tricks.  If we went around boasting that we have taught our kids tricks, we might not get very favourable looks.

You get the point, looking after a dog is similar (not exactly the same) as looking after a child.  At least when the dog has nightmares, you never get woken up and asked to sleep in their kennel to ensure the monster doesn’t get them.

I think some people forget that caring for a dog is like caring for anyone else.  When I am asked to go on a work trip, I feel foolish for saying that I just need to see if it would work because of my dogs.  (I have two adorable beagles.)  I feel that people think I am like Paris Hilton and concerned about my dog not having someone to change their tutu the following day.  However, I don’t feel this is the image on anyone’s mind when it is a parent saying that they need to see if they can make arrangements for their children while on the work trip.

Parents (of kids) get a sympathetic nod: career parent challenges.  But isn’t it the same?  I still have to see if the dog sitter or my mum can help out, just like a parent has to see if their support networks can take care of their kids.

The same goes for calling in sick.  When a mum calls in sick because their child is sick and needs to be taken to the doctor, you get the sympathetic working mum nod.  However, I feel I don’t get the same thing when I wake up to find my dog has a swollen eye and needs to be taken to the vet.

When a parent says, “Sorry, I won’t be able to get to dinner until 7:30pm, because I need to bath, feed and put my baby to bed before I head out” there is a reassuring “take as long as you need.”  However, when I say, “Sorry, I need to head back home after work, feed the dogs and then I can meet you for dinner”, I usually get a lot of awkward silence.

So maybe it is just my paranoid thoughts, but I sometimes think people don’t really understand the extent of looking after cute, adorable dogs.  That you are stressed as you sit in the vet waiting room with them, trying to reassure them that the thermometer won’t be needed today.  That you need to feed them because they don’t have thumbs to use a can opener.

For some reason, everyone thinks looking after children is nothing like looking after a dog.  And I agree, after 2 hours with my nieces, I can’t wait to look after my dogs.  But there is still the responsibility to feed, wash and care that makes you an almost-mum.

Avi Vince works as a manager in a non-profit organisation. She is starting her freelance writing career and you can follow her blog here or at twitter here.

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159 Comments so far

  1. Amanda

    THANK YOU FOR WRITING THIS.

    I’m sorry, but I don’t actually see the difference between children and pets – because they are both living beings that deserve kindness, respect, comfort, nurturing and looking after.

    I treat my cat as if he were my child (well, he is, isn’t he? Since I do for him what most parents do for human children?) and I don’t care if people think I’m an idiot. I think all living creatures deserve love and devotion. :)

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  2. Megan_B

    I totally agree! Whilst it isn’t as full on as parenting people, it still requires a lot of responsibility (if done justly and ethically… again like parenting little people).
    We had family whine and complain that we couldn’t stay over from Christmas Eve to Boxing Day due to our fur-kids (1 x Lab and 1 x Kitten). I hugged them tight when I got home thankful I had such loveable and gorgeous “excuses” :-) .

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  3. Emily Adair

    I totally understand you, right now I am stressing over going travelling and leaving my dogs for a year with my family. Although I know they will be looked after I am their main carer and will miss them so much. This article is brilliant your dogs are cute to.

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  4. Nicki

    Many of us are right there with you

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  6. June

    Love your article and know exactly what you are talking about. I can relate to the ‘sorry I have to go home after work before meeting you out for dinner’ issue completely. I also have had non dog owning friends look at me a bit strange when I say that. If I didn’t go home after work and take our 60kg pup out for a run I’d probably come back to something chewed to pieces. Owning a dog means responsibility and some times lack of spontaneity/ flexibility. But our pup is totally worth all the effort. I wouldn’t change a thing!

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  7. Alison

    I like your article. The way you present the comparison with kids is fair enough. Personally I found toddlers to be heaps easier than our incredibly boisterous lab when she was a puppy. I never had to spend an entire day each week at obedience training with a kid! It paid off though, the lab is quite lovely now.

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  8. LellaK

    Love this article – exactly how I feel.
    My pup thinks she’s a child sometimes….

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    • oliveblanche

      Omg she’s soooo cute! My dog lays the exact same way between my legs. Happy to be her pillow! Lol

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  9. mj

    What a great post – and so true! I had a discussion with a previous boss (who was the head of a very large company employing over 20,000 people) about bereavement leave, and that you should definitely be entitled to it if you lose a pet, because they are family! My two large rescue fur kids definitely prepared me for, and in fact probably helped confirm my thought that I was ready to be a parent – to another human. On my own! So I have 3 kids under 8. Two of them are fur kids. And that – to me – is a perfect family! http://wp.me/p1m5Gv-zt

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    • Louisec

      Hey MJ, I luv your blog!! It’s fantastic reading and I cried when I read about you adopting your lovely dogs.

      How you had to wait 24 hours before making Bear a permanent member of your family but you turned up the next morning early to get him!

      Wish there were more people like you x

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  10. Renae

    As “mum” to 3 large rescue mutts, and 3 gorgeous kitties… I resemble your post Avi!!!
    I don’t treat my pets like humans. I don’t even treat them all the same! I recognise they are six individuals with unique personalities and needs. The dogs are all happy, healthy and well adjusted, and the cats… Well they’re healthy (they’re cats. “happy and well adjusted cats” can be a bit of an oxymoron :p)
    Our lives do revolve around our pets a lot of the time. We don’t travel unless we can get someone to house sit. Going out is not really an issue, because my pets are grazers (their bowls get filled once a day and they graze from them whenever they’re hungry) and the have free access to be inside or outside as they choose. Still, we don’t like to leave them alone for too long.
    Going back to full time work after 6 years of illness has been really hard, and my dogs at least have had a hard time dealing with it. We’ve had to make allowances, like letting them sleep on the bed at night (which gets a bit squishy, but we love them ;) ). If we ever do have kids, we will have to have strategies to introduce the child into our family that the animals can understand so they can deal with it.

    The funniest thing to me, is that the one who always tells me how much dogs are like kids is my sister, who has 2 kids and a German Shepherd!
    And yesterday, as I was getting ready to go to work and take the tiny chihuahua x rescue puppy I’m fostering with me, and packing her bag of stuff (food, drink, bed, blankie, toys, poop bags, treats, leash etc) it really hit me that dogs ARE like kids :p

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    • Louisec

      Good on you for fostering a rescue! It’s a lucky dog.

      Sorry to hear you have been so sick x

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  11. Jess

    I have 2 dogs whom I used to think of as my “kids” in fact I would often compare them to other peoples kids, remark on their similarities etc Then I had a child……I no longer think of them as “kids” they are dogs, albeit very much loved, important members of our family, but yes they are dogs. I do think workplaces should be more sympathetic and understanding when people have pets, like it or not they do have needs, they need food, they need to be taken to the vet when sick or injured, yes sometimes it is inconvenient to workplaces…..but hey thats life, people have pets they need to respect that : )

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    • oliveblanche

      My niece and my dog are the exact same age and have grown up together. They are both one and a half. Best mates. But of course guess which one gets more time out…..yes the dog! My niece is a baby so yes she’s hard work and much harder work than my dog (cannot take ur eyes off a baby or leave her home alone). It’s interesting when they play though because they have their own weird little games and way of communicating. When I baby sit both on my own my niece is a dream and my dog……well she’s a bad influence! Lol. My dogs a good girl she just has a mischievous streak and can be a bit stingy with sharing her toys. My niece listens and shares beautifully of course :p

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  12. Jorie

    Major difference, they don’t have kennels for kids. At least not that I know of, if anyone knows of any, let me know. ;)

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  13. Deb

    What a beautiful article and oh so true. Our dogs are like part of our family and our 12 year old dog has developed paralysis in her hind legs due to ruptured discs in her spine and cannot walk. So, like we would for one of our children if they were disabled, we take turns in taking her to the toilet, ensuring she can get to her water bowl because we didnt bring them into our family so that when it all got too hard we would just say ‘Oh well’. We wouldn’t do that to our children and we certainly wouldn’t do it for our dogs. Our vets said to us the other day, we just have to imagine that she is like someone in a nursing home, she still has all her faculties and is eating well, and you wouldn’t say to a loved one in a nursing home – you are now too much trouble so we will put you to sleep so why would you do that to your beloved dog. Thank you for such a beautiful article which I will share with my animal friends who feel the same as you and me.

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    • Louisec

      That’s terrible about her back. I have ruptured discs since I was 15 years it’s so painful. How old is she? Well done to you for caring for her so well, it’s really lovely to hear. Your attitude is so wonderful.

      And I’m so glad to hear what your vets said, it’s stuns and horrifies me how quick some vets are to put down pets for no reason. They must be really terrific vets.

      I was friends w a woman a couple years ago and she had a beautiful German Shepherd with three legs. This woman ran a shop and the dog was all too hard for her. When I found out she wanted to get rid of this truly lovely dog I found a home for her but a day later she told me she’d taken the dog to the vet and he’d put her down!!!! I coudln’t stop crying. There was no reason to do this!!! THe dog was fine, so lovely. i rang the RSPCA and was stunned to learn they are allowed to do this!!! It’s shocking.

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    • oliveblanche

      You and your family sound like beautiful people. I’m glad there are people like you who love their dogs so much.

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  14. Sam

    ICB. The only reason you think it’s similar is because you don’t (yet?) have a kid. I remember that.
    I just spent the last five days (unplanned) in hospital with my son.
    We have a very special, wonderful, amazing dog. Actually she’s a trained disability assistance dog.
    When my neighbour heard, she offered to feed her and let her in and out of the house at night/morning, and another neighbour took her for a couple of walks. Total time investment over five days? Probably about 2 hours. No I didn’t feel good that she was left alone for so long, but ya know what? She’s a dog. An awesome dog who I love, but spending a few days on her own, chewing a bone has not psychologically or physically harmed her. She was over the moon when we came home, and I let her sleep on my bed (we never do that), but to even attempt to compare her care to that of a child is ridiculous.
    And while I would take a few hours off work to run her to the vet if necessary, I would consider that little different to staying home waiting for the plumber after a busted pipe flooded. Nobody has ever judged me for either!
    So, don’t get me wrong, I’m glad you love your dogs and treat them well – but do you *really* decide whether to go interstate for work on whether you can get ideal care for your dogs? Or do you really just say yes, and then make it work, knowing that, worst comes to worst, you can leave your dogs at any reputable kennel for a few days. You sure as hell cant do *that* with kids!

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    • Sam

      Actually, one part of your post rang very true for me. I took several days off work when a beloved dog died (but I never copped any flack for that from work).

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    • Sam

      Actually, one part of your post rang very true for me. I took several days off work when a beloved dog died (but I never sopped any flack for that from work).

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    • Louisec

      Some people are differnt, I’m exactly the same as the author. My Lucy Bear had lung cancer three years ago and I had her treated with chemotherapy. She was the most amazing little dog, the love of my life. It was such a horrendous period and she was the most stoic little patient to the last day.

      I will not put my dogs in kennels – nothing will make me do this. Too many dogs I know have come out ill and other problems.

      Of course, as you said, if something goes wrong and they have to be left then I will arrange a friend to look after them. But I try to leave them as little as possible.

      Also I want to be with them all the time, I love them. They are great company, make me laugh every day, introduce me to so many new people, and give me so much love.

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  15. KTT

    Lovely article. We have a fat, furry, kitty who is convinced he himself is a dog. We also have a 1 year old and a nearly 3 year old. I still adore and love my cat, who stuck by me during my single, loveless years ;) . My two kids know to be gentle to the kitty and the puss now even comes to the 1yr old looking for pats. My older one knows to ask the owner before approaching a dog, knows how to pat a dog and always knows never to approach a dog who doesn’t have its “mummy or daddy” with it because it might get scared of her.
    Having a pet before having kids definitely prepares you a little for when you have kids. And having a pet when you have kids, teaches your kids empathy, kindness and responsibility. Too me, pets are an amazing pleasure (and of course, responsibility) with our without kids!

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  16. iamevilcupcake

    I don’t have a dog, I have two cats. My family are well aware I have two cats, but are fond of saying “they can look after themselves” if I want to get home to feed them.

    And anyway, how could you say no to this face?

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  17. Kim

    What a great article. I work in a vet hospital and have for many years and Im always so sad for clients when they tell me their family, friends and workmates just dont get it that they need to take care of their pets. Its especially sad when they are grieving for the loss of their pet and they feel the only people that understand are the staff at the vets :(

    I also completely agree about raising dogs and kids and the similarities. When I had my daughter I found much of having raised and trained dogs was quite similar to raising my child. Positive reinforcement, naughty corners etc toddler raising and puppy raising are very similar there. Obviously not the same but there are many similarities.

    Im very grateful I work with like minded people in regards to pets ad their importance.

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  18. Rebecca

    Ugh. I hate to be the one to say I was skeptical when I read this piece, because I love dogs. I have owned a dog my entire life, and have spent many hours training, cuddling, and walking my dogs. I couldn’t be part of a family without a dog. Dogs enrich my life.

    That said, I am irritated when people equate their pets to children. I realize that this article does not touch on training, but I have to vent my frustration with untrained ‘dog-children’ (mostly as a plea to TRAIN YOUR DOG,, even if they are your babies). I am finding that more and more often, people who view their dogs as children let them get away with murder. Much like children, dogs are not all sweet and adorable. Some need a good talking to and hours of training before I want anything to do with them.

    As a parent and a dog/cat owner, I believe animals should be treated as animals, and if they are treated this way, they are happier for it. I understand that people love their pets. But to put them up on a pedestal by considering them to be your ‘children’ takes it to a whole other level. I know many dogs who act recklessly, are not trained, and are hyper messes because their owners ‘spoil’ them and are not firm with their training, simply because they are their little babies.

    Nearly everyday I take my dog to an off leash dog park where she can socialize with other dogs and run around. My husband travels much of the time, so this is almost always something that I do on my own. Because of this, I take my 7 month old baby to the park as well. One day, a large lab puppy (nearly full grown), decided to approach my son and I while I was carrying my son in my arms. The ‘puppy’ was leaping in the air to see him…and nipping at him at the same time. It took all I had not to kick the dog away. His owners response? “My dog is just a baby.” No apology. I wanted to yell, “Well my son is ACTUALLY a baby.” I couldn’t help but think that 10 years ago, that scenario would have played out differently, And that there would have been consequences for the dog, after NIPPING A BABY. I guess this is where my frustration lies. I wish people would see their pets as valuable members of their family, but get that they are ANIMALS who ARE NOT like children and therefore should NOT be treated as such, or be allowed to get away with anything. Dogs are friendly, yes…but owners must train them to be that way.

    And once you have children (if you want to have them), I think you will realize there is no comparison to dogs and children. Your child will be number one from then on. The dog will become a good companion for the child/family. That’s it. I am not putting you down: when I didn’t have children I compared my sister’s baby to my pets. My dog is one of my best friends, but my children are life changing,

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    • Rebecca

      ***I just want to add: under no circumstances short of a full-on attack would I actually kick a dog. To avoid the dog nipping my son I twirled in circles for awhile trying to get the dog to go away. FINALLY the owner, who was watching, stepped in. Oh, and I no longer bring my son to the dog park because of the owners who do not train their dogs. Unfortunately both my trained dog, and my son, miss out now.***
      Okay, I’ll stop my rant! Clearly this has upset me!

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      • Jess88

        Rebecca, I’m not a parent but if I saw you kick a dog that was behaving towards your baby the way that strangers dog was, I totally would have supported you. That’s totally unacceptable behaviors from that dog and the owners response proves how reckless a pet owner they are. People like that give the rest of us dog owners a bad name.

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        • Louisec

          Totally agree. WHat else could you do?! Some owners need a good kick up the arse, they can be so irresponsible and that makes it harder for the rest of us who are responsible good owners.

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      • Jorie

        I am a parent and a owner of a large, exuberant dog. First thing we taught him was not to jump up as it can be dangerous. Baby trumps dog any day of the week, I’d say it was within your rights to do whatever it took to get that dog away from your baby.

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      • XOXO

        Puppies definately need to be trained not to jump up on people. That said I am very careful if I take my kids inside the dog park (avoid doing it and they are 8,6,4). Dog’s are off leads, unpredictable and some just aren’t use to little kids. I have been nearly knocked cold by free running dogs and it wasn’t really their fault they were just playing being dogs- dog parks can be dangerous!

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    • Ozlicious

      I actually agree with most of what you said. I love my dog like my baby (I have no kids) but yes, dogs are definitely happier when they are well-trained and treated like animals.

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    • missamoo

      I always had dogs and we trained them carefully as in was one of five kids ther always a baby about. I now have cats, well cat now. When I first got her because I didn’t let her roam on advice from the breeder and I was in a second floor apartment with security. But I digress when my flatmate went away she went stupid and peed on his couch every day, I spoke to the breeder and she told me off for treating the cat like a person and I had to send her back to the breeder so she could remember to be a cat and to pick a friend. Lesson learned, plus I have also found this is why I don’t like little dogs as they have the worst manners

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      • Jess88

        So what exactly did the breeder say you did wrong with your cat to warrant her needing to go back tI the breede to ‘remember how to be a cat’ ? Im curious as mind are indoor only cats too.

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    • amanda

      i find this post so funny – the amount of badly behaved children i’ve seen because they haven’t been taught any manners (or should i say, ‘trained’?). because they’re parents let them ‘run a muck’ because they are on a pedestal and are the love of their lives.

      give me a dog anyday.

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  19. oliveblanche

    I completely relate to this article. My dog looks to me to feed her, keep her warm, well groomed and healthy. More than that she looks to me for security and to feel safe and of course loved. Dogs are a lot of work and I think people underestimate that when thinking about getting a dog. As a pup and when they get older you have to get up quite a few times in the middle of the night to let them outside but you do it cos you love them. My dog is very sweet and she deserves all the privileges she gets. She even has a little group of friends (the neighbors kids) that she can go and play with. We shouldn’t forget that our dogs only have us and being home the majority of the time must be boring and lonely. I think my dog gives me so much more than I give her so I will always be thankful and try my best to give her the best life possible. Don’t worry she’s not a spoilt brat ;)

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  20. Vania

    As a first time mum-to-be (due next Thursday) I totally agree. Our beautiful 7 yr old staffy x bull mastiff has been an excellent training ground for parenthood.
    I also think the love dog owners have for their pets is akin to the live for ones own child. You worry about them when they are sick, make sur they are kept fit and healthy and out of harms way, and receive as much love back as you give.
    I love my dog and am in love with our new baby; looking forward to growing our family.

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    • Robyn

      That’s a lovely post, and I feel exactly the same way, although I have a cat and not a dog. When my son was born last year, we were very careful to ensure we didn’t treat our cat any differently – she got loads of cuddles and still slept in our bed. When one of us was holding the baby, the other would be holding the cat. She even still climbs onto my lap when I’m breastfeeding him, and I’ve never pushed her away. I think that’s helped create an amazing dynamic between us all, our cat is not at all “resentful” of the baby. She’s so tolerant of him, even as he has grown and grabs her tail/’pats’ her (more like hitting her, eek!) – she’s so gorgeous and lies next to him and doesn’t run away, it’s like she has come over all maternal and knows he is only a baby. I know of people who automatically alter their treatment of their pets when a baby comes along and their animals became aggressive or spiteful (wee/poo where they know they shouldn’t), and I vowed to make an effort not to change anything so we could all coexist – I think we’ve made a beautiful little family! All the very best to you xx

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  21. Louisec

    Sorry, meant to include this photo of Dotty a 2 to 4 year old cattle dog who is on her very last days. And there are many more….

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  22. Louisec

    Can I please let you all know about a fantastic organisation called Pound Rounds which try and rehome dogs which are on their very last days. The dogs that have barely days left are so lovely, they really are.

    They are in NSW and this is their page on Facebook, please tell your friends and family. They do such a great job saving these poor innocent dogs.

    http://www.facebook.com/PoundRoundsAustralia

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  23. Just saying

    I too am a fur parent and totally get where you are coming from!
    I get very upset when people say ” she just a dog”! I now have baby but my maternal instinct is still strong for my fur baby , I couldnt
    be without either bubs – fur and non fur ;)

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    • Louisec

      Someone said that to me when Lucy Bear was dying of Lung Cancer. Yeah, really sensitive!! Normally I would have felt like killing the person but I just looked at her and realised that she is the one who will never have all the love and happiness that I have experienced with my “just dog”. They lose out and I feel sorry for them.

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      • Jess88

        I was told that exact same thing when I chose to spend $3500 on open heart surgery for my 4 month old pitty/mastiff mix as he had a hole in his heart – I was told if I didn’t he’d be dead before his first birthday, he’s 2.5 now and has returned the love I gave him by deciding to go through with the surgery in spades, he’s the most loyal, loving and protective dog and we have a very strong bond, I’m his most favourite person in the world and I feel the same about him. I feel sorry for people who say ‘it’s just a pet’ I imagine their lives are missing something truly amazing.

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  24. ozlicious

    I love this! I got my dog just this year and I’m so besotted with him. He really is my furry best friend. I miss him when I’m at work and I find myself spending more nights at home because I hate leaving him. He’s been a great addition to our family.

    I am mindful of the fact that we chose to bring him into our lives and thats a big responsibility. Therefore, we need to consider his needs in our day to day decisions. Might sound excessive, but I feel that it’s our duty. I also try to remember that in our human lives, we have work, friends, shopping , etc…but he doesn’t have any of that. He only has us. .He can’t just hop in the car and go for a drive…he has to wait for us to come home. We are his world. We are all he has. So yes, I will try to leave work on time so I can get home to feed him, and I will ask my friends to meet me at pet friendly cafes. I treat him the way I would want to be treated.

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    • Louisec

      This is so true and so well written. You’re so right, they can’t do anything but sit at home and wait for us to return. he’s a lucky dog to have you as his owner x

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  25. Aitch

    My dog is part of my family and he brings a huge amount of joy to my life. He is important to me. If you can’t respect that, keep your thoughts to yourself.

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    • Aitch

      That was meant to be a reply to Anonymous’ snarky comment below, by the way, not a response to this article, which I loved!

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      • Aitch

        And now the snarky post has gone so my posts don’t make any sense!

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        • Diana The Huntress

          I saw it, Aitch. I agree with you. It is not “rubbish” to say our animals are important family members.

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        • Louisec

          They removed it. As I said just a miserable human, don’t worry about it. x

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    • eternally

      Agree.

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  26. Jayne

    Loved this post!

    My beautiful golden boy Charlie brought so much joy into our family’s life. I loved him like he was my baby until he passed away last month. Love you forever Charlie-boy!!!

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    • Louisec

      He’s so gorgeous and you must be so sad. He must have had a great life with you.

      I have to now post a picture of my little soul mate Lucy Bear who died three years ago and who I miss every day. She was so incredibly special. That’s her on the left and her sister, Leisel, on the right who is now 14 and a true beauty.

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      • fifi-lulu

        I LOVE Westies! Yours are gorgeous.

        I have one at the moment, but hoping to breed her next year when she is 2 years old. We also have a maltese lhasa apso, who is 12 years old.

        My ultimate goal is to have 3 Westies in the long-run!

        P.S. Tiffany & Co have a Scotty dog charm which I renamed my Westie charm because they have a thick torso, pointy ears and upright tails too! Yes, I am a dog-lover….in a big way.
        http://www.tiffany.com.au/Shopping/Item.aspx?fromGrid=1&sku=22704192&mcat=&cid=&search_params=s+1-p+2-c+-r+-x+-n+6-ri+-ni+0-t+dog&search=1

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        • Diana The Huntress

          Breed her?

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          • fifi-lulu

            Yes, hoping to become a breeder next year.
            My Westie has pedigree lines and Grand Champions in her family – she came with papers.

            We’re hoping to have her impregnated by a stud Westie to make lots of little Westie puppies. All of them will go to good homes except for one which we will keep and smother with love.

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            • Louisec

              Ooooh so exciting! WHere do you live? HOpe it’s near me!!!

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            • Kate

              Want to make lots of little westies…

              WHY!?

              To make money? Well that’s nice and greedy

              As a hobby? Well it’s a pretty selfish hobby

              Because we love our dogs so much? Well there are plenty of dogs DYING who could do with that love more.

              Because our dog is such a great pedigree? So What? Pedigree doesn’t mean they are worth any more love or chance at life than other dogs.

              I don’t understand why people want to keep breeding dogs – there are enough dogs dying – why breed more?

              Hundreds of dogs, which are just as valuable as any dog you might breed, die every month in pounds in NSW

              Can everyone please STOP BREEDING DOGS? It is such a stupid hobby. And if it is a money making venture, that is both stupid AND greedy.

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            • Louisec

              Kate – that is a very strong comment and how do you know that is fifi-lulu’s intention?

              Westies are beautiful little dogs, there are waiting lists of years to get one. I have owned them for 16 years and rehabilitated and rehomed many. My two Westies are rescues – beautiful girls who I adore.

              I don’t breed but maybe one day I might. But if I did it would only be one litter – which is usually about three to four pups.

              The vast majority of Westie breeders are incredibly responsible and careful about who they allow to adopt their pups. That’s the way it should be. West Highland White Terrier owners and breeders are a small closely connected group in Australia and I can assure you that they are very diligent about breeders and owners.

              It is not the pure breds that are causing all the problems. It’s the designer cross breeds that are a massive problem. Mostly bred by puppy farmers – in the thousands – they have manipulated the public so that they can make money.

              Why on earth do dogs have to be intentionally cross bred?! They don’t! If you want a dog that doesn’t shed hair there are about five breeds that will suit you – poodles, West HIghlands, Schauzers.

              For whatever reason you want a particular temperament etc in a dog there is already a breed. Intentional cross breeding is causing thousands of dogs to be abandoned and killed every year.

              Please do not criticise someone for having a litter of puppies. It is vastly different to people who breed to make money and treat these poor dogs inhumanely. It’s so wrong and we have to stop it from happening. Thank God we have organisations such as Oscars Law http://www.oscarslaw.org, putting s stop to it.

              You are right there are thousands of dogs who desperately need rescuing and they are wonderful dogs.

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            • fifi-lulu

              This one’s for Kate.

              There are so many other reasons in this world to undertake a breeding program and in the Top 5 money has NOTHING to do with it.

              I want to do it because I adore my dogs. I am also a very loving and caring person and would love to give other families to have the opportunity to experience the joy a Westie brings.

              The breeding program would be done in strict and responsible conditions in accordance with the local Council and the Dog & Cat Management Board of South Australia. There would also be pre-natal and post-natal checks on the dam through a registered vet.

              All families that my puppies go to will be screened to the point that if it is an outside dog only they will not be getting one. This includes my own sister who believes animals should not enter the house. If the puppy is a present for an unsuspecting family member they will also not be getting one. A pet is for life. They are part of the family.

              Why is there so much angst about breeding? Even vets push you to desex and if you don’t you should only have one litter of pups. I AM a responsible dog owner and my puppy is NOT a money making machine. The stud dog alone costs $1000 for his services. If I could cover the costs I would be happy.

              We have tried to find a rescue dog in the past but Westies are very, very rare to find in a shelter. They are also hard to get from breeders as well with their massive waiting lists. Knowing that there is demand for this breed will ensure that all puppies will be going to good homes.

              P.S. Please don’t talk to me about dying dogs. I spent $2500 in 24 hours trying to save my 11 year old dog from an agressive form of cancer (hemangiosarcoma) that burst. It didn’t work and she was put to sleep in my arms.

              P.S. I also teach Special Needs kids at high school and I don’t do that for the money either. I do it because I love the kids there. I also have my own Special Needs child. Would you like to attack my reasoning for that too?

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            • fifi-lulu

              Hi Louisec

              Thank you for your supportive response to Kate. At least someone gets me! I live in Adelaide and my Westie will be bred in 2013.

              Should you want a third Westie I would be more than happy to provide you one at cost.

              As I said, I’m not in it for the money.
              You are clearly a very loving dog owner and any breeder would be comforted that you would provide a puppy with a good home!

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            • Louisec

              Hey Kate, it was actually good as it made me think about the whole breeding thing. As I am so very pro rescue – as you obviously are too – it made me think about the breeding angle. Please let me know if/when you do have puppies. My eml is Loumelc@hotmail.com.

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            • Louisec

              Sorry that last post was obviously meant for Fifi-Lulu xx

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    • elle

      So sorry for your loss :( coincidentally we have a Golden Retriever named Charlie too!! Its like they’re twins!

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  27. anon

    *yawn* You need the love of a good dog …

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    • Julie

      Not posted on one of these before.

      I have a 7 year old Maltese boy, Pepe, the love of my life! I don’t leave him at home, I go out, so does Pepe. In Europe you go out to dinner you take the dog, big or small. I have never spoken to so many complete strangers in my life as I have since I got my little boy! He’s angelic, life changing (for the better), a huge commitment (children grow up & leave home, your puppy never will) they are very tying, you need to be super altert & attentive (they don’t tell you when they don’t feel well, YOU have to notice & recognise the signs). Its a full time job and I would never comtemplate having Pepe plus a job (I’m very young retired and now a housewife). To leave him home alone while I went out to work, to me, would be unkind, dogs are pack animals, no matter what makes up the pack, they need company, not to be alone for long periods of time. My little boy wears a jumper when we are in a cold climate (Lausanne can be freezing if you don’t leave before winter kicks in!) he only has a top coat, no warm undercoat, so, just as you wouldn’t go outside yourself in the cold without a jumper why would you let you dog be cold (advise from my vet – if you need a sweater – he does, if you are too hot – so is he!). He has to be disciplined when he’s naughty (a short sharp shout plus angry eyes for 2 or 3 seconds is usually enough), praised when he’s a good boy, cuddled, even more so when he’s tired, scared or not well. Fed properly with the right food, not to be over fed so he gets fat or under fed so he is malnourished, given the right food so he dosn’t have allerigic reactions (Peps is wheat intolerant) given enough CLEAN water. Not injured by physical assault. Protected from things that may injury him, in and out of the home and vaccinated at the right times. How is this not like looking after a child. How do put a picture on here?

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  28. Louisec

    I’m so sorry that you are so miserable.

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  29. Aleesha

    Bravo Avi….if only more people saw pet ownership this way. Owning a pet is being responsible for the life of a living creature that is completley dependent on you for everything.

    More people need to realise this and not see pets as accessories they can engage with and dispose of as they please.

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  30. Rayn

    Was that really necessary? It hasn’t added anything to the conversation.

    I don’t know how appropriate it is to label anyone’s feelings or opinions as ‘rubbish’.

    I think Avi’s article is gorgeous and refreshing…I love to hear stories of people who give their pets the responsible ownership, love and loyalty they deserve.

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  31. Kaybee

    As an only child, I realize that I’ll never really have nieces or nephews in the usual sense… So I have fur-nieces and fur-nephews instead. Yes it can sound kind of corny, but My girlfriends are not at the time in their lives to have children – so they put their everything they might put in to having children, into providing what they can for their fur-children.
    Btw Avi – I absolutely LOVE all hounds! My first dog was a hound cross cross cross (lol) and your two remind me of her so much.. Especially with those hound eyes!!

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  32. Kylie2

    I think it’s great that your prioritise going home to feed and check on your dogs before going out to dinner. I have never minded when friends have had to do this, they can come out and relax once they know their pets are cared for.

    I also agree that “pet leave” is a legitimate form of carers leave. I’ve had colleagues who’ve had to take time off work to take pets to the vet, or to mourn them when they’ve passed away. To me this is just as reasonable as taking carers leave to care for an elderly parent or sick child, or compassionate leave to attend a funeral.

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  33. Anonymous

    Love this piece!

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  34. Eternal Caterpillar

    The one really big difference between kids and dogs is that the latter make you feel safe when strange noises come out at night. I never worry about being burgled because I know our two big mutts (kelpies x heelers) would scare anyone away. (Children, on the other hand, do not give peace of mind AT ALL. The list of things I worry about happening to my three is endless.)

    Such a pity though, that Insurance companies don’t recognise the value of dogs and lower premiums accordingly. Sigh…

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  35. soyabean

    I love my pets, I love my partner’s pets but they are our pets and we are their owners. For some reason the whole ‘I’m my dog’s mum/My cat is my baby’ thing grinds my gears soooo much!
    My partner’s mother says she is the ‘grandmother’ of my partner’s pets…ridiculous

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    • Faybian

      I have refused to become the grandmother of my daughter’s dog. Her partner’s mum on the other hand……
      I care about our dogs, cats and fish, but they aren’t my kids.

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      • soyabean

        Yeah, the ‘grandmother’ element is kind of creepy. In dog /cat years, they’re older than her anyway!

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        • oliveblanche

          Hahaha I love saying that to my Mum. She is convinced she doesn’t like dogs…..then spoils mine like crazy. So I love calling my dog her granddoggy. I always say its not fair that my nieces and nephews get to call her Nanny and my dog doesn’t. Ahh always gets a sigh and an eye roll! I became a bit resigned to being known as “mummy” because that’s what the vet says, the groomer, the trainer so she learnt I was “mummy”. My friends who also have dogs and I just use it tongue in cheek. I’d be a bit concerned if one day I met someone who was serious.

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    • Daisy

      Well you’re the one missing out.

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      • whatahooha

        My dog was my parents’ Grand-dog. they do almost as much dog sitting as they do for the actual grandchildren. I feel they are entitled to give him a familiar title.

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      • soyabean

        Missing out on what? I love my pets more than I love some family members (if we’re being honest), they’re spoiled beyond belief, they have about 95% of my bed at night and they eat better than most pets, if not some people….so no, they’re only missing out on me calling myself their ‘mum’.

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        • Daisy

          Sorry that was a reply to the post about what rubbish this article was that was taken down.

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  36. Primaballerina

    I’m currently sitting in Istanbul airport after 3 weeks away in Europe. I get to see my dog tomorrow, and I’m so excited! I’ve missed him so much, he really is part of our family . Whenever I’m sad I can pat/hug him and he always makes me feel better. He’s 6 now, but when we got him as a puppy, it felt like having another baby in the house.

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  37. Amanda

    Thanks for sharing – it’s true – they may not be human but they are still part of the family and cannot fend for themselves.

    I bought Harper for Atticus & they’re totally in love which I think keeps them happy and thereby healthier but sometimes they simply need a vet and/or sitter!

    On the flip side – they’re a handy ‘out’ if you need one – esp at after work corporate drinks. “So sorry, have to leave now and feed the cats…” and then you can depart leaving bewildered faces as they ponder how many that [now evidently crazy cat] lady has!

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    • soyabean

      Omg, omg, you named your cats Harper and Atticus! I love it!

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    • Faybian

      We have a Cleo (cleopatra) and Julius, male and female. He is a grey tip Siamese cross and she is a chocolate tip burmese cross. Sadly, they hate each other, but if one’s not there, the other will look for him/her.

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      • meandthem

        We had Jake and Elwood Blues. Both black cats with some white on them. Sadly both died from cancer many years ago. Love Harper and Atticus

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        • Amanda

          Thanks…and sorry to hear about your babies. Common for kitties with white who go outdoors I think.

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      • Amanda

        oh no! Mine are Ragdolls which I think counts – I reckon they could fall in love with a tree! They’re a very loving breed – highly recommend.

        Atticus is a blue bicolour and Harper is a blue mitted lynx.

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  38. Cee

    Love this article!

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  39. LKW

    This is the reason we dont own a pet/dog, as we dont want a 4th child!
    Great post, pets are so important to many.

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  40. Daniel

    I agree, my Peggy is so important and if I had to take off work to ensure she was looked after I wouldn’t hesitate! Pets mean the world to so many, it’s a shame that some people don’t get that.

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  41. Susan

    When my dog died a few years ago I had to put her down as she had a tumor in her mouth it was my first time I had todo this type of thing on my own I had 2days off work when I got my payslip they had paid me bereavement leave

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  42. Lisa

    I love this post! I agree with everything!! Being a mum of 2 beautiful furry babies I always get the treatment of above mentioned from friends etc and to be honest I’m sick of it! I’m their mother and if you look down your nose at mine, expect the same to your children :)

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  43. Jade

    I have 2 kids and a golden retriever so I therefore have 3 kids! We got our furry friend when we married. He was practice I suppose and he was great training. We learnt to put someone else first, we couldn’t just swan off all weekend or straight from work and we needed plans for when it was 43 degrees or 3 degrees!
    We adore our pooch and now the kids adore him too. They feed him, walk him and generally love him. He sleeps in their room and is charge of monsters.

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  44. Quixotic

    I’ve had dogs all my life, have worked as a vet nurse and have done dog obedience training, and whilst I’ve never thought of a dog as my “child”, I have always thought of them as my totally-dependent-on-me friend. I totally get how they are similar, but not quite the same as having a child though.

    The best bit though, is when you have a child, and see the beautiful relationship between your child and your dog. My Lab Scout is my 5yr old daughter’s playmate, confidant, protector and best friend.

    Here’s a pic of what loyalty looks like to me…

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  45. Essie

    I have two (rescue) cats and a new 8.5 wk puppy, and they are my babies! As much as I am going mad right now dealing with all the puppy stuff, they’re my babies. People have criticised this by saying that I am tying myself down etc etc, but they are worth any sacrifices I have to make for them. Love them to bits!

    Any handy hints on puppy/toilet trainng appreciated!

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    • Louisec

      Hey, persistence and patience is the key for toilet training. And at 8.5 weeks they are so young and we need to understand this.

      So get puppy to wee on newspaper and then put the newspaper outside and every hour take the puppy out and get them to wee on the newspaper again and make a big fuss – tell him how fantastic he is!

      It’s all about regularity and familiarity.

      If he/she makes a mistake don’t go mad on him/her and NEVER EVER smack or rub their nose in it. That is so incredibly wrong.

      It’s up to us to make the effort to take the puppy out regularly and get them to wee on the newspaper and then reward it.

      Good luck! xx

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      • Essie

        Thanks Louise!
        She’s pretty good at using the training pads, but doesn’t always get there. My problem is that I go back to work next week and don’t want her to have the run of the house til she’s toilet trained, but she goes nuts if she’s behind the baby gate in the laundry!
        Also, do you know at what age/vax stage it is safe to take them for walks? Thx!

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        • Louisec

          It won’t take long for her to get control of her bladder. Can you leave her outside? Or is there a room you can section off? Maybe a bit larger than the laundry?

          Not sure about the Vax as it’s been a long time since I’ve had a puppy, but someone on here will know.

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        • jess88

          I usually play it safe with my new pups and don’t walk or socialise them until after they’ve had their final shot which is at 16 weeks from memory. Ask your vet though, they’ll give you an accurate answer

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        • cerry

          It’s definitely after the 12 week vaccination, but I can’t remember if they recommend you wait half a week or a full week to make sure it’s had time to work.

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        • Mum of two

          Parvo virus lives in grass, so you can take them on paths or roads as young puppies, it’s great to socialize them young.

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          • Louisec

            All dogs owners should be careful not to let their dog sniff other dogs poo as that is the main way they contract parvo.

            Of course we should all pick up our dog poo – it’s so easy to do.

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        • oliveblanche

          I know it sounds mean but she will be totally fine in a quiet little room like the laundry. The whole house would be too scary anyway. Put some toys, her bed and some water and food in their and she will be fine. Maybe put some classical music on for her. She is probably only going nuts behind the baby gate because she knows you’re there. Crete training is good to use for toilet training. My vet recommended it. Also one of the most helpful things my vet said was at that age they only have two settings on and off! So they will be crazy play play play then conk out and sleep. Once they pass the 14 week mark it gets a bit easier. Then when they hit a year WoOHOO! :) a lot of work but soooo worth it!

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    • cerry

      Toilet training is hard. People and the internet telling us all this stuff about using newspapers and puppy pads and god knows what else, but my puppy would not have a bar of it. Basically this is what we did:

      *Every half hour/45 minutes, put the puppy on the leash (which got her used to the idea of a leash for walking later) and do a couple of laps of the backyard with her. If she went to the toilet, we praised her and gave her a pat and a liver treat (if I remembered to take them outside with me). If she didn’t, we came back in and try again in 10 or 15 minutes.

      *Any signs that she was getting ready to pee (thankfully, she was only an inside pooper in the laundry overnight) inside (walking in circles sniffing, wandering out of the room mid-belly rub/play), took her straight outside. Proceed as above.

      *If she was caught peeing, she was told off, picked up and straight outside. If peeing continued outside, excessive praise and belly rubs were given. Pro tip: to clean dog pee out of the carpet, soak up as much pee as possible with toilet paper, cover the patch with bicarb, leave it to dry out for a day or two, and then vacuum up. We have one stain on the carpet, and she never showed any signs of intentionally picking out the same spot.

      *If she let us know that she needed to go out, affection was lavished and liver treats were given once we were in the yard.

      I don’t remember how long it took to get her house trained, exactly, but we got her at 8 weeks, and had a bladder infection at about 14 weeks that we noticed because she kept peeing inside, which she had pretty much stopped at that point. So I’m guessing about a month? We also taught her to open the screen door so she can let herself out (the screen door opens outwards and has been rigged so the latch doesn’t work, and she just throws her weight on it and wanders out), which I think took a couple of weeks after she’d learnt to go out for the toilet.

      In terms of other training, contact the local RSPCA/animal shelter (or your vet) and ask which puppy pre-school/dog training club they’d recommend. We did a 12 week course at the local dog training club (recommended by the RSCPA, when we got the dog. Said club also gives large fee discounts to RSPCA dogs, which was lovely) which taught me how to train the dog, taught the dog basic obedience (sit, drop, stay, come, how to walk on a leash), and also got her socialised with both the puppies in our class and the older dogs doing agility and advanced obedience. We did about 10 minutes of practise at home each day, and she’s usually really well behaved now (although she’s still not good at cats).

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      • oliveblanche

        This is a bit random but I couldn’t get my dog to scratch at the door when she needed to go out so she would just sit there and wait! We installed a doggy door (and not a cheap one) and she is scared of it and now just scratches the door……arrrgghhhh!! On the plus side my niece figured it out :/

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  46. ladylaura

    This is so my partner and I. We got our two little Maltese shihtzus a year ago and I can’t imagine life without them.

    They are definitely our children. we are out of the house most of the day, hence we got two and they play or sleep together all day, but when we are home they are always on our laps or having a play! The house is littered with toys and they sleep on our bed. I often joke that when we have kids (hopefully in a couple of years!) that the kids will have to compete for our affection! Never really understood the love for a pet until I got our dogs as an adult, ven though I had a dog as a kid. It’s just different when you know that you are the one responsible for not only its physical health but also its quality of life. It’s so true they are only with us for such a brief time (can’t even think about them passing ! And we still have a good possibly 15 years with them!) and dogs truly are so loving, you can see in their eyes all they want is cuddles and love from you!

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  47. ImAVet

    Your beagles are gorgeous Avi, however by the looks of the photo they are quite overwieght. I know it is easy for beagles to get a bit podgy but as a very loving dog mum you should know that being overweight decreases their lifespan.

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    • Louisec

      Not sure as can’t see that clearly but you may be right. I have to keep an eye on my girls as they (esp being rescues) just love their food!

      I remember a man came up to us at the park one day and told me they were overweight and my friend thought I would have been upset at him but I wasn’t. I actually thanked him for looking out and he was actually right!

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  48. LozFromOz

    I know exactly what you mean Avi, I’m not saying my two cats are more important than anyone’s kids, kids are definitely a bigger job! With that said, the way I’m treated if I have to take time off work to get one or both of them to the vet, versus the way colleagues who have time off with sick kids are treated leaves a lot to be desired. I can’t get someone else to do it, or ship them off and leave them, same way you can’t with your kids. Yes they are cats, but they are not ‘just cats’ as so many people say. I have had them for 8 years, they have never been boarded, I feed them every day, clean up after them, play with them, cry when they are hurt, laugh when they are silly, and when they are gone I will miss them so much. They are like children, in that you adore them and want to give them a great life, and it upsets me when I see the blunt reactions some people have towards others who have just had a pet die, as if a dog/cat/rabbit is a replaceable being.

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    • Jess88

      I took two days off work when my dog passed away a couple years ago, my boss was an animal lover so totally understood and said to take as much time as I needed, but man there was some judgey-wudgey stuff from my colleagues ‘it’s just a dog/wait till you’re a parent’ blah blah blah. Compassion, people! Learn it!

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      • soyabean

        I’ve noticed that a lot of my friends, if their pets are sick or have to be put down, they’re almost a little embarrassed to be upset….but they’re your pets! My cats are still young but I am already dreading when they get old and sick.
        So those work colleagues can shove it, so rude.

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        • fifi-lulu

          There was a old fella at my work who was tough as nuts.

          One day I walked into the office and he was upset. His dog had just died and he had tears streaming down his face as he spoke.

          I had never seen anything like that from him.
          I will never forget that moment.

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          • Louisec

            Oh it is so heartbreaking. I’ve had dogs all my life, I was so lucky as a child, we had and lost many great dogs. But when I lost my first adult dog, Lucy Bear, my heart broke. That was three years ago and every day I think about her and miss her. She was an amazing little girl, so special. We had the most extraordinary connection and so much fun and love. We had 12 years together, never apart. God I loved her.

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  49. stella

    love this article. this is my baby

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  50. Donsie

    I am married with 2 teenage sons & had never owned or lived with a dog until my darling 18 year old son decided to bring home an 11 week old pittbull terrior approximately 18 months ago. Eki ( the dog) is the most loving & gentle creature, I had no idea that a dog could be such a lovely addition to a family. I agree that it is a big responsibility but that’s only because we really care about him.

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    • Jess88

      Welcome to the “pitty” owners club, you’ll like it here :)

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      • Donsie

        They are amzing dogs, who knew??:)

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