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Many mothers who want to co-sleep are now opting for safer methods like this.

 

by VIRGINIA TRIOLI

They are words I don’t even want to write: the waking nightmare of finding your baby cold and unresponsive in the bed with you.

The State Coroner’s recent finding on co-sleeping – sharing a sleeping surface with a newborn or infant – was a bombshell, and has created an awful conundrum for those who believe, or have been told, co-sleeping is actually one of the best things you can do for your young child. After investigating four cases of babies who died after sleeping with their parents, John Olle said the practice was “inherently dangerous” and that babies less than 12 months old should sleep on their backs in their own cots.

The messages on this issue are now so completely mixed that nightfall must create an environment of anxiety, if not panic, for many families across the country: just where should baby sleep?

Parents are now offered, by so many different health professionals, completely contradictory interpretations of the dangers/benefits of co-sleeping. One GP I know, who happily co-slept with all her children, cites recent research that demonstrates the practice actually prevents sudden infant death syndrome (SIDS), because the child is aware of the presence of the mother, thereby reducing the possibility of sleep apnoea incidents. The other side of the story you know all too well: you can roll on them, the blankets or pillows can suffocate them, and they can slip between wall and bed, between mother and father.

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Virginia Trioli

I have no idea any more which way of sleeping is better, but I have a sneaking suspicion that even in early infancy the child instinctively knows what will keep her safe. Some babies just won’t or don’t sleep with their parents – they settle only in their own space, no matter how much the parents might yearn for co-sleeping. Some high-needs babies – usually struggling with issues such as reflux, colic or other conditions – need the proximity and cling to their parents, at least in the earlier days.

Who is to say that they are not acting out of a basic need to be kept close and safe? And we all know that once the kids hit their toddler years and beyond, they are in and out of your bed for all sorts of reasons, real and imagined.

But I think we need to be honest with ourselves about one factor, and that is the need of the mother – and it is mostly the mother – to sleep with her child. The less-analysed side of what is now called “attachment parenting” (kind of like demand-feeding but for every aspect of the baby’s life) is the desire of the mother to be attached, not necessarily the child. Is the argument about how good co-sleeping is for “bonding” an argument about the child’s need, or the parent’s? If love and support is provided at all other times, is it really also needed at sleeping time?

One fact that can’t be overlooked, and that potentially takes some of the heat out of this issue, is that SIDS deaths in Victoria are now at their lowest levels. The education campaigns have worked, and while even one baby’s death is of course too many, as a community we are far more aware of the dangers of smoking, alcohol, drug taking and overheated beds when it comes to babies.

And while it might seem counter-intuitive to argue that the loving presence of parents can be harmful to the sleeping child, if we know that they can be safe in their own space – albeit just an arm’s length away from us – perhaps we can accept that the baby can bear to be without us for just a few, crucial hours.

This post was originally published on The Weekly Review and has been republished with full permission.

Virginia Trioli is the presenter of ABC News Breakfast on ABC1 and ABC News 24, 6-9am weekdays. She has an established reputation as a radio host, television presenter, news reporter, features writer and columnist. You can and should visit her blog here.

For a different perspective on co-sleeping you can visit our sister site iVillage

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194 Comments so far

  1. Liz

    I love having my baby snuggled up sleeping next to me and I do feel like I’d be missing out on a lot by having her sleep in her own bed. I also get a lot more sleep since I started co sleeping. So while lots of the reasons that I co sleep with my baby are about me, the biggest reason that I continue to do it is because I know that she loves sleeping next to her mama all night and that she never has to cry for me in the night because I’m right there as soon as she opens her eyes or reaches out. I know I’d want to sleep with my mum if I was a baby.
    If co sleeping is done safely (non smokers, no medication or alcohol etc) mum knows where her baby is at all times even when asleep and will startle awake if baby gets out of reach or rolls to face a pillow etc. it just works.

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  2. Loo81

    Although there is a growing culture of mistrust of the medical profession (and I don’t want to get into that) I cannot understand the mistrust and dismissal of the coroner’s findings. Why not trust this information? What ulterior motive could there be? And even if in the future co-sleeping can be proven safe, at the moment the information we have is that is can, in very rare cases, result in a baby’s death. Co-sleeping has a myriad of benefits and for the vast majority of cases will be beneficial for mother and baby but ,knowing this new information, could anyone stand by their decision to co-sleep if a tragedy happened. Mother’s always do what they think is best for their children and motherhood is full of difficult decisions. I was going to co-sleep with my 8 yr old when he was a baby but it didn’t work out well so he slept in his own room. I am not writing this to judge any mother who has opted to co-sleep but I think that new mother’s facing this decision are blessed to have this new information. The knowledge we have right now is that the risk outweighs the benefits and we should all be working towards avoiding further tragedy’s.

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  3. jen

    Wow what a response. at the end of the day its each to their own . but i would like to pose one question. if babies are born not knowing anything then how can we say its their choice to sleep with us?how do they know what they want?

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    • afd

      Who says they’re born not knowing anything? They’re born knowing mum’s voice and heartbeat, and studies have shown they are already more responsive to their ‘mother tongue’ – the language mum speaks – regardless of who’s speaking it. They can learn that light and dark, noise and quiet have meaning, within a few days of birth. They know they are comfy and warm, or that the room seems too large, empty and quiet. They also know when someone is too much ‘in their face’ (my Miss 3 gets in her baby brother’s face far too often, and he clearly objects!). A baby has all the potential to become the adult they will be. Sure, there’s a lot of development, learning and life experience yet to happen, but they are *not* a blank slate!

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  4. Sarah

    Here is an article which actually references real scientific research about infant sleep patterns and co sleeping. If people are actually interested in reading some real information as opposed to an opinion piece the link is below.
    http://www.askdrsears.com/news/latest-news/dr-sears-addresses-recent-co-sleeping-concerns

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  5. Neeida

    Surely any parenting decision involves some element of that which also benefits the parent. It seems naive to think otherwise.

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  6. V

    It is truly awful for any baby to die, for any reason. Terrible for that baby and for the family. I feel for anyone who has gone through this.

    I would like to point out though that often co sleeping, for the mother, is not necessarily about the bonding (though for some it may be), but about getting some sleep. It is absolutely exhausting getting up to a baby in the night, and sleep deprivation is known to affect cognition, motor control, mood… generally everything, so to be able to maximise the sleep you can get before you have to drag yourself out of bed to deal with awake children, can really benefit the whole family. Babies often sleep better next to their mother, and wake less often (or can easily be settled back to sleep, in a half awake state by the mother). Mothers can breastfeed without waking fully, and all of this benefits her health and the entire family, (if it works for her and the baby), provided it is done safely….

    each mother to decide that and minimise risks for herself….

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  8. Sarah

    We can find “experts” and “research/studies” to back up both sides of the arguement. But the reality is that each parent is the expert on their OWN child and no one else (allowing exceptions of course for the people who really should not be parents!). When as a society can we stop judging each other for the choices we make. Parenting is not a competition!! Each to their own, live and let live.

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  9. Victoria

    We’ve all read the articles about the coroner’s report, but the problems with demonising co-sleeping remain.

    We need to be educating parents on practical methods for SAFE co-sleeping so that parents can make a truly informed decision about how their infants sleep. For example, you should never co-sleep when you’re overtired, have consumed drugs or alcohol or have taken medications which may impair your ability to wake up. You should wear a shirt so that you don’t pull the covers up over your baby. You should put the baby away from your pillows and bedding and put them in a sleeping bag.

    There are many different pieces of information that the government (and even Mamamia) could be distributing to parents to make sure we know how to safely co-sleep with our babies if we so desire. Instead we get told that we’ll kill our babies if we do what feels natural and normal and makes them sleep better.

    If you believe that parents have the right to make informed decisions aided by government agencies and news sources, then please like Women’s Organisation for Mothers and Babies on Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/JoinWOMB

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  10. Anonymous

    The one in the picture is available from the UK, but it’s pretty expensive! http://www.bednest.com/index.php

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  11. Anonymous

    I have commented about 5 times and none of my comments have shown up.

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  12. lisa

    another article to make mothers question their parenting skills and motherly instinct. Who gives a frig ? As long as we all get sleep…….

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    • Lou

      The coroner is not usually known for trivial findings. As a parent, you should ‘give a frig’.

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      • lisa

        parents have been sleeping with their babies for thousands of years. maybe the alarming sids statistics have something to do with why the western world has adopted this way of sleeping. Co-sleeping isnt for everyone especially if you have AOD issues or have sleep problems of your own. One coroners findings doesnt mean anything.

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        • Lou

          And pregnant women were smoking until the late 1970s! Just because something has always happened doesn’t mean it’s safe.

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          • Sarah

            Smoking is a human invention and hasn’t been around since the birth of civilisation, it is hardly a fair comparison. Not sleeping with an infant is a relatively new idea when you look at how long humans have been around. Therefore we really are yet to see the long term effects of this new practice.

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  13. Em

    My daughter started out in a bassinet in our room and would often fall asleep in bed with us after I’d fed her. We always practiced safe sleeping with her and removed doonas, pillows and she was always on my side as my partner sleeps more heavily. She started to move into her cot after a few months but then began waking screaming through the night and would only settle after I fed her. She also developed severe eczema. Turns out she had terrible allergies. I changed my diet dramatically but still no change. she also suffers with sleep apnoea at times because of enlarged tonsils and adenoids due to her allergies.

    We never planned to co sleep but shes just turned 2 and she’s still in bed with us most night as she wakes up itchy even with antihistamines. She’s been weaned for over a year but having her in bed with us means she gets comfort when she’s itchy and she’s got stomach aches which is often after she tries new foods. Also means we get maximum sleep. Now Im expecting our second and everyone asks when she’s going into her own bed… Before next baby is here hopefully but we will see.

    I won’t lie it is nice to cuddle up to her every night and make sure she’s safe but it won’t be forever.

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    • Guest

      It would be a shame to time moving your daughter out while moving your new baby in….don’t listen to the critics….get a bigger bed…room for everyone! We co-slept with both of ours. My son was 4 when my daughter was born and had already started to sleep in his own room some of the time but I didn’t want him to feel pushed out as he was about to start school AND get a new sister so we invested in a superking-sized bed with a pullout single under….worked a treat….they’ve grown up to be such close siblings I think because we nurtured the feeling in them that their individual needs will always be met so they don’t need to resent each other.

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  14. rivkah

    There’s been a bit of discussion here about what’s normal for babies sleep-wise at various ages, and comments about babies who are ‘poor sleepers’, so I thought it might be useful to post a link to the Infant Sleep Information Source (ISIS), which provides evidence based information about normal infant sleep, based on the latest research.

    The information is provided in a way that’s really easy to digest (especially if you’re a sleep deprived parent!). I’ve found it a great resource and very reassuring.

    This link is to the section about what is considered normal sleep for babies at different ages.

    http://www.isisonline.org.uk/how_babies_sleep/normal_sleep_development/

    There is also information on the website about where babies sleep, the effectiveness of sleep training, and more.

    From the website’s home page:

    The ISIS website project (aka ISIS-online) draws on the combined experience of Professor Helen Ball and her team at the Durham University Parent-Infant Sleep Lab, and senior representatives from La Leche League, NCT, and UNICEF UK Baby Friendly Initiative, all being organisations working directly in the fields of parent-support and health professional training in the UK. All three organisations are experienced in the provision of online information to parents and/or health care providers (midwives, clinicians, health visitors etc.)

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    • Mel

      Great website – thank you!

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  15. toddler mum

    Also, the most grating feature of Virginias article to me is this:
    “If love and support is provided at all other times, is it really also needed at sleeping time?”
    Do we parent during waking hours only?

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    • rivkah

      I also found this line really jarring and non-sensical.

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  16. toddler mum

    Co sleeping was widely practiced until the 19th century. Unfortunately infanticide was also rife and frequently “over laying” was blamed for infant deaths. The Catholic church banned co-sleeping as “over laying” was used as an excuse for infanticide too often. Since then co sleeping in the western world has been associated with infant deaths. Not so anywhere else in the world. Would we ban cars because a few drunk people crash?

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  17. Anonymous

    Great article Virginia. If I am being honest with myself, I started co-sleeping more to benefit myself than my baby. He was so warm and snuffly and it was one of the nicest things in the world. And I didn’t have to get up to breastfeed. I waited until he was over six months old and got advice on how to do it as safely as possible from my MCHN. But I was aware of this coroner’s opinion (he made some comments awhile back as well) and, I
    think, the American paediatrician peak body also advises against sharing a bed with babies under two. So after a few weeks the guilt (ah, motherhood) was too strong and I moved him back to his cot…which required me to tolerate some crying he never would have otherwise had to go through. More guilt.
    Anyway, I’d never judge anyone for doing it (as you aren’t either) and I think your article explores some interesting ideas and realities.

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  18. Rebekah

    Co-sleeping is a subject that brings out great passion on both sides of the argument, but there is really great compromise. The Arm”s Reach Mini Co-sleeper let’s you have all the advantages of sleeping in close proximity to your baby (like enhancing bonding, maximising breastfeeding, reducing the risk of SIDS and minimising sleep disruption) without the risks that can be associated with bed sharing.

    My husband and I now have them in Australia. You can see them at wwww.justfor.com.au or our FB page http://www.facebook.com/CoSleeperAust

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    • Amandarose

      They look great- and much more comfortable for everyone

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    • Anonymous

      I would be a bit concerned about the fabric sides. Aren’t bumpers considered a suffocation risk?

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      • Rebekah

        The non-cosleeping side is made of breathable fabric and the co-sleeping side has breathable windows on the co-sleeping side. Rest assured these Co-Sleepers are very safe. They have been sold around the world for 15 years and there has been no suffocation issue

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  19. Heather Smith

    Has an under the cover co sleeping pet dog ever died? What are the statistics? Why should it be any different ?

    I ask because I simply don’t know – & I have always slept with dogs under the cover – which seems far more smothering opportunity ? ? ?

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    • Amandarose

      Dogs can move- babies can’t especially newborns

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  20. Hannah

    Even if it is for the mother’s benefit, so what?! As long as it’s done safely, then I think a happy mum is the best thing for the baby. Some people are too worried about what others do, in my opinion.
    My husband is south-east Asian and we co-slept with all our 3 children, he wouldn’t have had it any other way, and it worked out very well for us. We had a lot of judgmental comments but we just let them slide, because we did what we felt was the best for all of us. My husband is amused by the all do’s and don’ts about parenting here. Babies are held 24/7 in his culture, there’s always a family member available to help out, and the large majority grow up to be happy and well-adjusted people with strong family values.
    Saying that, I totally understand co-sleeping is not for everyone and I fully respect that. But I think we need to stop this attitude that what some parents choose to do is ‘wrong’. 95% of parents are doing the best they can, so let’s just leave the judgement out of it.

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    • Faybian

      Hannah, I think you’ve identified the difference between us and some other cultures. They have extended family around to help each other out. As a rule we don’t. We are also highly mobile, further adding to this problem. So if a baby is to be help 24/24, quite often there’s only 1-2 people doing it and the strain can be immense. I have seen a lot of upset women in clinic because of this.

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  21. Lou

    A serious question for the parents cosleeping with their children (especially those whose children are no longer babies) – how has cosleeping impacted your sexual relationship with your partner? How do you maintain intimacy with a child in your bed?

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    • Anonymous

      a bed isn’t the only place to be intimate ;)

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  22. Bec

    It amazes me reading the comments below how many children are clearly the “parent” in the family….WAKE UP PEOPLE if you let your three,four, five year old do what they like and make the decisions now how are you going to go when they are 15, 16??????

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    • Awake

      I’m with you Bec! Let’s send our 3, 4 and 5 year olds to high school ! Let’s give them condoms and teach them about safe sex. And let’s get the lazy little buggers working. I know I had a job when I was 16. Thank you for waking everyone up. A lot of parents are asleep at the wheel of their 3, 4 and 5 year olds. Enough of this kindy rubbish, let’s get them on the bus and to high school

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      • Bubba's Mumma

        How rude you both are.

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      • Bec

        So let me get this straight “awake”, you think its making children grow up to fast by setting limits and boundaries for bedtime? Hmmm no, I think I’ll pass on the parenting advice thanks…..

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      • Bec

        So let me get this straight “awake”, you think its making children grow up to fast by setting limits and not letting a child rule the roost at bedtime? Hmmm no, I think I’ll pass on the parenting advice thanks…..

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  23. Mel

    Our first baby settled quite happily in a cot and was a great sleeper from an early age. Our second baby had colic, is still incredibly unsettled and i cosleep with her most nights. She starts in her own cot, and is put back in her cot after the first time she wakes, but by the second or third time I usually leave her in bed with me after I’ve breast fed her. I am so chronically tired from waking 5 times every night for the past 6 months, I am more scared of getting up to feed her and falling asleep in a chair than of falling asleep in bed. I feel like I am choosing the lesser of two evils but I would much prefer if we didn’t cosleep. I’m not sure whether it is my baby or I who have the greater desire to cosleep, my baby seems to be far less independent than my first child. The bassinet attached to the bed looks like it could be the solution, I wish I knew about those ages ago!

    I wonder if Virginia Trioli is facing the same dilemma with her baby?

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  24. Son

    I’ve allowed my two to sleep with me for the last 3 nights – after I ‘pulled a Mia’ last week and shot off for a few days of me-time, i am relishing the warmth of their little bodies next to me all night…..

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  25. Melissa

    My eldest child is 22 my middle 14 and my youngest 8. We have been co sleeping on and odd since 1990. My eldest child slept in our bed until she was 3, my son until he was 6 and my youngest – who turns 9 in sept still sleeps with us. Cosleeping is natural, amazing and just wonderful for parents and kids, especially those who return to the workforce early. If some of you quality time with the family is between 11pm and 6am what is wrong with that. I hope when my daughter is in her teens she still wants to sleep a night with us.

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  26. Lil

    I still sleep with my six year old. He doesn’t want to leave me and I don’t want him to leave.

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    • AnnaD

      A six year old totally knows whats right for him. Good job.

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      • missmuffet

        My six year old also sleeps with us. Heaven knows we tried to get her out of our bed and we did succeed for a while, but at the moment she’s a pretty determined camper in mummy and daddy’s bed. All her friends are having sleepovers but we said no go until she can sleep in her own bed. Maybe we are pushover parents but I prefer to pick my battles and this isn’t one of them.
        Adding to the debate, I couldn’t care less whether people are putting their babies to bed in a cot on the other side of the house or having all 5 children sleep with them, as long as everyone is happy and safe. As parents, we’ve got enough crap to deal with, why add to the load?

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  27. informed mumma

    Ok first of all am sooo over damn journalists putting their rather backward views on parenting to the general population…first of all humans have been co-sleeping since the beginning of time and majority of the world co-sleeps other than industrialised nations, also what the coroner in VIC is doing is fear mongering not educating people, the reality is you will bring your baby into bed because they have a biological need to be close to you and likewise with the mother especially if she is breastfeeding. I currently co-sleep with my newborn i did also with my now 3 year old, there is no way in hell i will lie across that baby! You know why because i take all the precautions and educate myself on HOW not to..its what works and Virginia you have completely confused everyone on the definition of attachment parenting – again the media get it wrong like the 60mins story “The less-analysed side of what is now called “attachment parenting” (kind of like demand-feeding but for every aspect of the baby’s life) is the desire of the mother to be attached, not necessarily the child…attachment parenting is an mutally exclusive relationship with your child, its not us versus them mentality which has been funnelled down western parents throats for the past two centuries its how humans have evolved and genuinely thrive from…have a read of Dr James Mckenna’s research he is the leading SIDS researcher who states co-sleeping deaths dont happen from co-sleeping they happen from the wrong factors for co-sleeping just like cot death does….you can also get Arms Reach Co-sleepers in Australia now which are right next to your mattress but for goodness sake do an education on how to SAFELY co-sleep not confuse parents even more its damn common sense! Also mothers need?? gee funny how in Western Cultures we have Post natal depression and in other cultures it doesnt exist…

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    • Ambercat78

      Doesn’t exist? Doesn’t it?

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      • Anon

        The Coroner is definitely Not fear mongering! How dare you say that. Do you have any idea how difficult a job the coroners and staff have at te Coroner’s court? Do you think they just pull findings out of the air to SCARE people? This finding is a long time coming. I worked at the court for a long time on the “front line” and came to the conclusion that SIDS doesn’t really exist anymore – co-sleeping does however…

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        • informed mumma

          when the coroner is making outrageous statements like ban co-sleeping he is living in the dark ages, maybe say educate or more education is needed also as previously stated most of the SIDS or sleep accidents happened in UNSAFE co-sleeping environments which means co-sleeping did not contribute to the deaths it was the way the parent did it, its funny how we receive so much info on how to safely co-sleep in cots but to mention how to co-sleep safely is not ? It’s insulting to the millions who cosleep every night safely and the coroner examines deaths he is not an infant sleep specialist in that area and maybe should chat to Dr James Mckenna leading SIDS researcher in the world and the recent UK SIDS specialist who debunked the VIC coroners findings….its like he has a personal issue with it opposed to educating the general public

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        • informed mumma

          when the coroner is making outrageous statements like ban co-sleeping he is living in the dark ages, maybe say educate or more education is needed also as previously stated most of the SIDS or sleep accidents happened in UNSAFE co-sleeping environments which means co-sleeping did not contribute to the deaths it was the way the parent did it, its funny how we receive so much info on how to safely co-sleep in cots but to mention how to co-sleep safely is not ? Go read Dr James Mckenna’s research he happens to live and breath SIDS unlike the coroner who just focuses on the deaths and is not a infant sleep researcher

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        • Michelle

          SIDS doesn’t exist anymore! Great, when does my daughter come back to life then?

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    • Faybian

      I really hope you can back up that silly statement about no post natal depression in cultures other than industrialized ones.

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      • Anonymous

        would it be less prevelant??

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    • Very educated

      Do some research yourself post natal depression exsists in all cultures not just the western civilisation its a taboo subject in many and in some even considered mothers being possessed by demons. Post natal depression should not be classified as just a western thing more a global concern. Shame on you

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      • Very educated

        And further more do your research on a coroners job and education you’ll maybe surprise yourself

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      • Anonymous

        yes…BUT….Your deluding yourself to think that a supportive community would nhot reduce its prevelance….

        I know many Asian woman who are compketely pandered to after giving birth… No matter what you say, that would help me if I was depressed. Heck, I was depressed and I KNOW it would have helped me…

        And, of course there would be depression in other countries, but face facts people, the western world is suffering the most…. Is it because its taboo or because in other countries, the social support people get is amazing.

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        • May

          My step mother is Asian over there that have booked in c sections don’t breast feed and go back to work within 6 wks due to no income no food. They don’t admit if they can not cope and if they are struggling they don’t admit that either. They receive no education on post natal depression and no support they simply don’t talk about it. She finds our culture extremely over the top in the way we wrap mothers in cotton wool (her words not mine ) she moved to aus at the age of 45 less then 5 yrs ago.

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    • Anna

      “informed mamma”? More like uninformed mamma….

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    • Earlybird

      Postnatal depression exists worldwide. Its very real, not a societal construct.
      Howmany people did you plan to offend with that comment? Just westerners who have or have had post natal depression or all those sufferers elsewhere I the world.

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  28. Anonymous

    so it’s never allowed to be about the mother’s need? because I co-sleep with my 1 year old (since she turned 4 months and started waking up a gazillion times a night…taking all necessary, pretty obvious precautions) because I want to get a decents night sleep (instead of running back and forth at night) and I love cuddling with her but I am clearly being selfish. What is the point of this article? You do what’s best for your family (baby AND you) and get on with your life. Why all the judgement? Babies that sleep alone in their cot also die in their sleep and it is absolutely awful but it does happen.

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    • Faybian

      Hate to say it, but if you’re running back and forth about 5 times a night regularly with a toddler, then something may be amiss. Small children do wake up at night, but 5 times is somewhat excessive.

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      • Anonymous

        Light sleeper? I’m one and so is my 4 year old daughter. I wake up at the tiniest noises and so does she. My son is the opposite, he can sleep through anything.

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      • original poster anonymous

        Nothing amiss…both my kids are healthy as anything but they are both very light sleepers (as are their parents) and my one year old wakes up hysterical at night, whether I am in the bed with her or not. So sleeping with her helps me comfort her more quickly than having to get myself out of bed and sit with her for 20 min. We did try controlled crying with the first kid and I will never do that again. She banged her chin on the cot till she was bleeding out of her mouth. It’s not for everyone you see…don’t assume anything.

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        • Anna

          I was like you, slept with my second baby because he woke up so much starting 5 months. On occasion even more than 5 times. Our daughter on the other hand is a heavy sleeper and I taught her to sleep through control crying without a problem. That approach didn’t work with our son. All babies are different and we have to adapt to that, so I understand you very well.

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        • Anonymous

          Waking hysterical could be night terrors. My son used to wake a lot at night then saw ENT who diagnosed sleep apnea. He had a tonsiladenoidectomy at 3 years and has been a different boy since.

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      • Hannah

        If you hate to say it, then why are you saying it?? My best friend’s son is 2 and still wakes up 2-3 times a night, nothing amiss at all. If there was something amiss with her child, I’m sure Anonmyous would be aware of it…

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      • Sarah McM

        Four months old is a toddler now? You must have had some very advanced children, Faybian.

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        • Faybian

          Umm, the 1 year old, which could be anything from 12-23 months old, not the baby.
          Hannah, I hated to say it, because I knew people wouldn’t like the suggestion that maybe its more than being a light sleeper, particularly not Anonymous.

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          • Sarah McM

            Ummm, she said her 4 month old started waking up a gazillion times at night.

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          • Anonymous

            I still see a 1 year old as a baby. Especially when they aren’t talking and in some cases, aren’t walking, yet… Are you some kind of sleep expert, Faybian? Because I know at least 10 1 year olds that still wake up regularly at night and there’s nothing wrong with them. I also wake up regularly at night and there’s nothing ‘amiss’ with me as far as I know. I suppose you might beg to differ…

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  29. bikegirl37

    I had my first baby in 1998 and I don’t think co-sleeping was a word then. If it was, I never heard it and was encouraged by one of the nurses at the hospital to feed my baby in bed and yes, sleep with him. Co-sleeping. I co-slept with all my boys, I think we did it up until about three months of age for each. If i’d been told it was dangerous I wouldn’t have done it. But I would have missed something big. I look at those times as gold. My sons were small, and beautiful, they had that delicious smell. We were all innocent and I was paying attention. Now my boys are nearly 14, 12, and nine going on nineteen. I get science is showing the dangers of co-sleeping now. But memories of those times of closeness and slowness, get me through all the where are your shoes, have you done your teeth, and not right now I’ve gotta do this, moments that seem to make up our days until the school holidays swing by.

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    • informed mumma

      just to add science has not shown dangers of co-sleeping actually the opposite science has shown how co-sleeping esp for breastfeeding mothers regulates the breath of a baby and arouses both mother and baby which is why SIDS is regarded as less of a risk with co-sleeping mothers also science has shown how the brain in infants grows and develops when babies are near their mothers either in bed or next to them (within arms reach)

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  30. Boo

    I think this is a misguided piece. I don’t see how co-sleeping serves a mothers’ needs, and I know plenty of “attachment parenting” types. None of them are desperate to be in contact with their child at all times, and none of them are so desperate for the love of their child that they can’t let the child go. In fact, they are amongst those mothers most likely to hand the baby over to others. Unlike those whose babies spend hours in a pram or a car seat and mustn’t be disturbed. I think it is another of the type of article claiming a certain kind of person exists, but basing this opinion largely on other media opinion/anecdotal/half made-up or based on one case, pieces. What real evidence are you looking at?

    Most mothers who are into attachment-type practices do it in a very informed way, not in the stereotype way starting to pop up for “normal” people to mock. Often the other parent is in another bed, to prevent crowding. The bedding is chosen to be safe. The room temperature is set to suit the baby, not the parent.
    Is it terrible to safely co-sleep with your baby so that you actually get a decent night’s sleep and are a functioning adult for your child the next day? Is it terrible to believe it’s completely natural to do this, as people and animals have been doing for eons? And, yes, that some babies virtually demand it.
    No, you are not a failure if you can’t “train” your baby to sleep on it’s own, in it’s own room, through the night, with no feeding, at 3 months. Look at that picture. Most people around the world would find it absolutely bizarre.
    And it is OK that some things in parenting, in mothering, are done to suit the mother, the parent. It is not a choice between mother’s benefit and child’s benefit. The coroner is not a god. He weighed up some evidence – who knows what evidence, exactly, and made a call. On the basis of a very small number of cases. In which safe co-sleeping practices were not on show.

    Interesting to note that SIDS levels are at their lowest, when the new attachment parenting practices are growing. Does safe co-sleeping have anything to do with SIDS?

    I would so love to read a piece on this kind of topic that actually bothers to look at the evidence, rather than just say it’s “mixed”. That is based on real people, not the fictions of magazine and media editors fantasy lives.

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    • Ambercat78

      I believe SIDS has decreased due to the “Safe Sleeping” guidelines, not the rise in AP….

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    • Anonymouse

      Bravo. Where’s the detail on the circumstances of all the cases of co-sleeping deaths? Where is the control group, or consideration of SIDS occurring where safe co-sleeping practices are adhered to?

      The Coroner only sees the cases where the outcome was negative. The Coroner’s report has subsequently been slammed by a visiting UK SIDS expert for spreading simplistic, blanket messages (see link to follow).

      http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/conflict-on-sids-and-safe-sleeping/story-fn7x8me2-1226299790054

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    • TKD

      Wow, you have responded so logically to the above piece, and I couldn’t agree more. I was just thinking to myself, where are all these mothers who consciously choose co-sleeping with their babies for their own personal bonding needs? I haven’t met one yet and in my case it was for the survival of all of us! I didn’t have one of those babies that wanted their own space, ever, and wouldn’t sleep anywhere else but on or next to me. She made that choice and I listened (eventually). Not sure how that is meeting my own needs and not hers??
      BTW, she was sleeping all night in her own bedroom by about 2 years, and she is a very independent and happy little girl.

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      • Anonymous

        Here here! Well said

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    • Anonymous

      Boo you rock! :)

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  31. Bec

    Each to their own, but I just don’t understand co-sleeping. I would want my children to be emotionally independent and be able to sleep on their own, not have to fight with them at age 2 because they are still sleeping in my bed and I’m robbed of a decent night’s sleep as a result.

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    • my thoughts

      I co-slept with my 3 babies until they were 6-8 months & stopped having a night feed. It might just be luck but they have all slept in their own beds since then.

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    • toddler mum

      emotionally independent by 2?

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    • Sezzard

      Bec, have you actually got children or are you saying ‘when’ I have children…
      I simply ask because I know I said very similiar things before I had a child of my own!

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    • Sarah McM

      So Bec, do you think all Indians and Japanese people have children who aren’t “emotionally independent”? Just asking because they pretty much all co-sleep, and don’t seem to lack emotional independence as a culture.

      Has it occured to you that meeting a child’s need to be close to mum might actually foster independence, rather than leaving them with unmet needs?

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    • B

      I co-slept with my boys while they were babies and didn’t settle in their own beds at all – it was either be a zombie during the day or get some sleep with them in the bed. They were in their own beds by age 1 and have never gotten out of bed during the night since then (unless they were sick). Do you have kids?

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    • Anonymous

      Actually children who co-sleep tend to be – wait for it – LESS fearful and MORE independent than children who sleep alone.

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    • Tracyb

      So Bec….you don’t co-sleep with your husband/boyfriend/girlfriend/whoever? You don’t enjoy the smell of his skin or being snuggled up to him, or just knowing he’s nearby? Are you saying a new-born baby should leave the warmth & comfort of the womb and the constant sound of a beating heart to lie in a cold cot down the hall? Do you honestly think a child learns to be emotionally dependent by depriving them of emotional security….really? By your own definition this makes you emotionally retarded and dependent…..discuss…..

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  32. Anonymous

    One of my babies slept in a bassinette and then a cot beside my bed until he was two. I was able to feed him overnight then return him to his own sleeping space without any trouble, unless he was sick, teething etc.
    My other baby slept cuddled up to me until she was two and a half – she chose co-sleeping. She chose to feed every two hours for the first ten months of her life. She chose to need a hell of a lot more ‘contact time’ than her brother did. She is still a more needy child, but, just as I followed my sons lead as to what he needed, so I have followed my daughters lead.

    As I began to learn my baby girl and realised she needed different things than her brother, I researched how to give her what she needed and still keep her safe. I have not had one drop of alcohol since before I was pregnant with my daughter; I do not take any medication that could make me drowsy; I followed all the guidelines for safe positioning when sleeping.

    My daughter now sleeps in her own bed in her own room and she is three. It felt like the greatest achievement of my life working through the stages of separation to get her into her own bed. She still will not go to sleep for anyone else, and definitely not have a sleepover with her grandparents, but we are taking small steps, and I know we will get there.

    Co-sleeping with my daughter was never about what I wanted – it was always about what she needed. She is very highly strung, to the point I have visited a child psychologist to make sure that we weren’t missing something, and we have discovered that our daughter is exceptionally bright for her age, but highly sensitive, both to stimulation and emotion. The child psychologist told us she was very well adjusted considering how sensitive she is. The psychologist also told us that she thinks it is remarkable how much my little girl uses me to help calm herself down. She acknowledged that there has obviously been years of hard work already in place to make my little girl feel secure.
    It was right for her – and I did it for her. What I got out of co-sleeping with my baby was the satisfaction of knowing I was doing the right thing for her – it certainly didn’t improve my sleep, and I LOVE having my bed back to myself. But I would do it again in a beartbeat – for her.

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    • Melsie

      You’re an awesome mum!

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      • Anonymous

        Thanks Melsie – I’ve had to develop a thick skin since having my little girl because almost everyone I know disapproves of the way we are with her. But, and it’s a big but, if you could see how far she has come and what a sweet little person she is, you would know, as I do, it is the right way to go.

        It just bugs me when people dismiss the great lengths so many parents (but particularly mums) go to for their children as being unnecessary or for selfish reasons. Everything about raising my daughter has been sooo much harder than I ever thought it would be, and much more difficult than what most of the other parents I know go though. But, as with everything, the bigger the challenge the bigger the reward – it was bloody hard having my little girl sleep all over me for years (and she still occassionally does) but she is better for it – and isn’t that a parents job?

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    • Me

      Wow – you could actually be talking about my daughter! She is 5 and sleeps in her own bed for the 1st half of the night then sneaks into mine during the night. She is so highly strung, very anxious and sooo emotional. Even now, she can’t bear to part with me when I drop her off at school (but is fine 3 minutes after I leave) and doesn’t like being separated from me too much.

      She is also petrified of being in a room by herself which has made it really difficult to get her to sleep in her own room. She shares a room with her little sister and as soon as her sister is asleep she freaks out because she is scared. She wont even go to the toilet by herself because she gets scared. I have been concerned that she is getting older and is still clinging to me but the saving grace is that once she is away from me she’s such a confident girl with lots of friends and she is perfectly fine.

      Her younger sister is the complete opposite – fearless and willing to try anything!

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  33. Anonymous

    When I was in hospital after having my son the midwives put him in to bed with me and said to let him fall asleep while feeding at the breast. He slept well but I certainly couldn’t sleep as I was so scared of rolling on to him and killing him. Having seen a family members life fall apart after rolling on to her baby girl, I just couldn’t take the risk. Co-sleeping is like most other things when it comes to raising children- a decision to be made by the Mother and Father and it’s no one elses business.

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  34. Anna

    The first night out of hospital my baby slept in his basinet next to our bed – i lay awake listening for his breathing, he snuffled and grunted away.

    He slept in his own cot in his own room next door to ours the next night and has ever since, hes now 19months – he has slept really well like this so it has worked for us. For myself too i find im alot calmer and far less on edge when he is in his own space, im a night owl and like to read in bed and get up and down for toilet/cup of tea/ whatever without fearing il wake him with every tiny movement

    We stayed at a friends house this weekend and we shared a room with him, hes usually a dream sleeper in his own bed – but does not settle well when we are somewhere unfamiliar….i’ve always been too scared to share a bed with him because of the worry of one of us rolling on him, but for the first time ever in desperation in the early hours of the morning i let him sleep in our bed just so we could get a couple of hours rest, and even then he was up and down a hundred times wanting to read books or climb all over everything before he succumbed to slumber FINALLY at 4.30am!!

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  35. Michelle

    “the waking nightmare of finding your baby cold and unresponsive in the bed with you.”
    I have done this. This is actually my life.
    I woke one morning to find my 8 week old had died during the night, we were co-sleeping.
    And I am more-so an advocate for co-sleeping since that day, and co-slept with my subsequent child, still do actually and she is 3.
    The coroner decided that she was a SIDS death, and that means it was unexplainable, and the chances are she would have died at that time, no matter where she was.
    I like knowing she was in bed, with her parents. With the people in the world who love her the most. She was safe, secure, and I certainly know she didn’t cry out, or struggle. I am not a deep sleeper at the best of times, let alone when I have a less than 2 month old child.
    Maybe my co-sleeping with her sister 2 years later was a little bit “for me”, but I didn’t ever let her sleep out of my sight. Day sleeps, in my arms… Night sleep in my bed. I still wake in the middle of the night scared she has died and shake her awake. Then I hold her until she falls asleep again. Certainly not ideal, but this is my life.

    I struggle with articles such as these… I struggle with the lack of comparison to countries that do co-sleep as the norm. Yes, SIDS levels are now at their lowest in recent times. But there are so many cultures that co-sleep all the time, and SIDS is almost negligible. My firm and honest belief is that education is the key. Falling asleep on the couch is not co-sleeping, setting up the bed so there are no doonas, or pillows that can suffocate the baby. Having a firm mattress, being non-smokers etc etc. These are the things that need to be taught. Co-sleeping should be as thought through as the capsule or pram purchase, not done on a whim.
    … I have so much more I could say on this but I am at work, so I will leave it with – each family does what is right for them, as a whole. Almost all families co-sleep at one point or another, but it is so taboo that no one talks about it. No one gives the advice on HOW TO DO IT properly. If that was given, if it were less taboo, then the deaths that can be prevented will be.

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    • becsparrow

      Oh Michelle, I am so very very sorry for the loss of your daughter.

      I think you raise some really important points here. Thanks for leaving this comment.

      xxxxx

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    • Kerr

      “I like knowing she was in bed, with her parents. With the people in the world who love her the most. She was safe, secure, and I certainly know she didn’t cry out, or struggle.”

      Sobbing.

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    • Anonymous

      Michelle you are a great mum. Thanks for sharing. Peace and blessings to you and your family. Xxx

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    • Hannah

      Michelle, even if co-sleeping with your 2nd daughter was a little bit ‘for you’, I think you totally deserve that after your experience, I don’t think you should have to justify that to anyone. I’m so sorry about your daughter xxxx

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  36. Anonymous

    “If love and support is provided at all other times , is it also really needed at sleep time?” That is the question I asked when friends are curious about the sleeping arrangements at our house .My husband and have seperate bedrooms and I co – sleep with our children .I can not understanding parents who place their child ( after 9 months of living in the womb) in a seperate room to them , let alone a seperate bed .Its a strange concept that we expect children to self settle in their own beds far from the comfort of parents , but it is expected that when we are grown adults and choose parnters when should then have to share beds , considered strange if we dont.

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    • Ann

      At what point will you stop sleeping with your children and go back to sleeping with your partner. Also what are the ages of your children? Not asking as an insult I am just curious.

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      • Anonymous

        I actually have my own bedroom , so I dont even have to share cubboard space! My youngest is four and when she decides she is ready ,she will share a room with her sister or the play room will become another bedroom , what ever suits them .

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    • Libby

      I feel sorry for your marriage, anonymous.

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      • Cold

        Wearing your best judgement hot pants today, I see, Libby.

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      • Anonymous

        Gezz Libby , what a stupid statement .No need to worry about the state of my marriage.Actually my commitment to co sleeping and putting the needs of our children first has had the added and unexpected bonus of keeping the spark alive in our relationship.When we want to be together , its a choice , we joke about wether it will be my place or his , and i often refer to his room as being “the lurve shack”

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        • Susan

          Good for you! And why should the test of a good marriage be whether you share a bed and a room? I know plenty of married people who share a bed and a room and they are far far from happily married! Geez, the nasty comments and judgement on this website is insane. MM you really should be monitoring it; it does nothing for furthering debate and nothing for your image.

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      • Another Anonymous

        That’s silly. I know a few very unhappy married couples who share a bedroom.
        I sleep in a separate room from my husband because he snores incredibly loudly. Our relationship is perfectly fine, much better than it would be if I had to listen to that snoring every night.

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        • A different Anonymous

          Sheesh, my husband is so messy, with his dirty clothes and other clutter on the bedroom floor, it would only benefit my marriage if he moved to another room! Can’t wait for the baby to come so that I can legitimately kick him out.

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    • May

      My son has had his own bed, in his own room sine day one. He has self settled since day one and is happier more content and a mOre settled baby then all my friends who sleep in the same bed or even just the same room as their bub.

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      • Susan

        He’s also a different baby to your friend’s babies! With different needs and a different personality! And your friends aren’t you either. They mother differently because it’s what they feel is best and what works for them.

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        • May

          Very true however some of those mothers have then done what I have with their second in a bid to experience both and have ended up agreeing with me. You will note Susan I did not write that in my first postin a bid to just share my expeience as i don’t disagree or agree with either. I guess we are not allowed to share our great experiences and how things in our own social circles wIthou having the one person make a condescending reply. Maybe you should remind all the other wOmwn on here who have shared their wonderful stories with us how different their child is as if we don’t know.

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          • Anonymous

            You can not compare babies. My daughter co sleeps with me… my friends baby sleeps in her own room in her own cot and has since day one… my friend complains all the time about how her daughter was up all night… you can try all you like to teach a baby to self settle but they’ll do it when they’re ready in my opinion.

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      • Anonymous

        I have friends who have had the same experience as you , and thats great ,but for me personally the idea of placing a vunerable , tiny baby down the hall ,in another room in a cot by themself seems wrong .

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        • Ambercat78

          Wrong to you…I think that is the important point. By all means, follow your instincts, but my problem with the whole subject is the picture that people like you paint of the “poor tiny baby abandoned down the hall”…you dislike being judged for your choices, yet you are quick to make comments that may well make other parents feel guilty about their choices??!….my children are extremely happy, secure, well loved and confident kids. None of whom are somehow damaged from sleeping in their own bassinet/cot from day one!

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          • Anonymous

            Reading that back , it did sound a bit too judgy, sorry! I did actually type “wrong for me ” but lost the “for me”.My point actually was how I find it interesting that we are expected to have our children sleep seperate from their parents from a young age and then when we” couple up ” we then share a bed ?I really have no judgement on parents what their sleeping arrangements are.I personally love having my little ones tucked close .

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            • May

              And I have nO judgement against parents who do co sleep what ever works for your family which is why I spoke solely of mine and my friends experiences as another side. Unfortuniy both comments did make me feel “mother bashed” and judged especially when I have read every one else experience with interest and respect. But thank you for Explaining what you meant and I do understand where you are coming from from your view

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  37. Jen

    Interestingly in many Asian cultures co sleeping is the norm and in Thailand for example it is expected that everyone will sleep in the same bed until the child is relatively old. 8, 9 or 10 is not uncomman.

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    • Kat

      Yes but they also charge mothers for the child’s SIDS related deaths in Thailand…

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  38. Kerr

    I know a lot of families with young kids and I can’t think of one who hasn’t slept with their kids at some point. Before we had babies I wasn’t going to, but in the end we needed sleep, so we did. Simple as that. The research actually has cosleeping as a protective factor as long as it’s done safely. Also, another SIDS recommendation is that the bubbas sleep in the same room as their parents for 12 months. We didn’t do that, don’t know many people who have, but funnily enough theres no articles saying we are killing our babies by abandoning them in another room. Just ones saying we are killing babies by sleeping with them. Interesting…

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  39. Lolly

    My babies have slept happily in their own beds and own rooms since Day 1. Their room was just across the hall, so we could always hear if they cried. However, what we didn’t hear (which allowed us to get precious sleep) was all the grunts, groans, burps and general baby noises as they cycle through sleep patterns. It has so worked for us, as part of the Babywise concept of routine feeding and sleeping, and I now have a 3yo, 1 yo and 4 month old who sleep all night.

    People are free to choose the way that suits them, but I am genuinely concerned by the coroner’s findings on co-sleeping. I also can’t help thinking that after a long day of looking after kids, that all parents are entitled to some freedom and space, which means sleeping in their own beds without children.

    Another genuine question: if you cosleep with your kids, does that mean you have to go to bed at the same time the kids do? I can’t imagine going to bed at 7pm. Or do you put them in your bed for a few hours alone, then join them at 9/10 o’clock? What happens when you have a night out, or they sleep at their grandparents house? What about “special cuddles” with hubbie? I would love to hear how it works in practise.

    I am more than happy to give kids my love/cuddles/time/attention during the day, but when 7pm bedtime comes, it’s time for me to take my ‘Mum’ hat off, and put my ‘Me’ hat on, until the next morning. Keeps everyone in our family happy.

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    • Jonni

      The AAP released an official warning about Babywise in 2010 (of course there have been countless “unofficial” warnings online for many more years). I’m shocked that any health professional has recommended this for you?
      Can I recommend you seek a second professional opinion if this is the case?

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      • Anonymous

        Maybe the doctor is religious? It’s a very popular book with some congregations. The advice in Babywise is meant to be based on Biblical principals, I have no idea what that means in practice but it’s what the author claims.

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      • Anonymous

        Did you not hear that this woman has 3 children, of varying ages that sleep all night??
        She has done what has worked for her family.
        For the love of kittens, can’t we just let parents parent the way they feel is right?! Get lost Judgy McJudgington!

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      • Lolly

        Babywise was recommended to me by friends and family. I have seen all of their children become happy, healthy, well rested, thriving, inquisitive babies from the 1st months of life. Some of these families have 4 and 5 children, and when they were all sleeping through the night by 10 weeks, thriving with weight gain, and having great periods of sleep and wake time through the day, I knew it was more than “good luck” that they had such “good babies”, I knew it must be good management.

        I too have read some internet based forums who warn of the “evils” of Babywise. As a well educated, informed, pragmatic, devoted parent, I cannot understand it. I would urge you to read the book, not the websites set up to discredit it. As with any parenting book, it appeals to a certain style of parenting, in this case a family who would like a routine for their baby, which still meets all of their nutritional, emotional, and educational needs. Babywise realises parenting is a huge, exhausting, overwhelming task, and it gives practical examples of how to give your baby the gift of sleep, how to help them feed on a regular 2 1/2 to 3 hour cycle, and how to have regular wake time during the day, to encourage emotional connection and brain development through play and activities. It is not unlike other approaches, including Save our Sleep and Mamamia’s own Gift of Sleep. Babywise always encourages parents to use their instincts. For example, if your baby is really unsettled, yet it has only been 2 hours since their last feed, if you think they are hungry, feed them immediately! It never says let them cry for hours and hours, but it does say 5-10 minutes of crying as they are going off to sleep is okay. All of this just seems like really sensible advise.

        My 3 kids all have different personalities, but they all responded so well to Babywise. They are well rested, content and happy, and so are we, the parents. Having 3 littlies is demanding, but the Babywise approach has been a key factor in creating a happy and content household. It may not be the style that suits everyone, but it sure has been for us and countless other friends and family.

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        • Jonni

          I not only read it, but put it into (much regretted) practice with 3 of my children many years ago. So I warn for reasons much sadder than just to judge. It’s not a time in my life I’m very proud of, and I’m deeply grateful my kids are all OK now.

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        • Jay

          I used babywise for my twins and found it enormously useful. I can’t imagine what people think it needs a “warning” for.

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    • Felicia

      I don’t think things are as black and white as you suggest. For example your comment that “all parents are entitled to some freedom and space”. This is true – but not all parents want and need as much space as others. The same applies to babies. They are not all the same. It sounds like you have been got 3 sleepers. My experience was different – 1st baby was a screamer, 2nd baby slept from the day she was born and the 3rd is somewhere in between.

      Our first child had issues with reflux and would not sleep without parental contact. I would have loved some more space but it just didn’t work. We tried everything except leaving him to cry before we just accepted that he wakes up. When we stopped fighting it – he was about 2 – things got much better.

      For us cosleeping has worked as one of many sleeping practices we have used. We have a 6, 4 and 1 year old and have done all manner of things over the years depending on the needs of the children. With all three we have used a cot with one side removed which is connected to our bed with the mattresses at the same height from the time they were born, until they were somewhere between 1 and 2. From there they have all moved to a bed in another room quite happily. Our 6 year old still wakes every night and comes into our room sometime between 11 and 3. We have a single bed pushed up against our bed for this purpose – so we don’t get squashed. The baby – who is nearly 2 – comes in every second night (guess) and crawls in between us. She is little enough that she can happily sleep with us without anyone loosing sleep.

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  40. katehegs

    I really hate the title the editor’s chose — ‘when co-sleeping is about the mother’s needs, not the baby’s’ — once again, there seems to be this underlying view that women who makes choices that are different (like home birth, birth plan or bed sharing) are ‘selfish’ and inherently dangerous to their baby. Seriously. It is isn’t true. The majority of SIDS occur in a cot.

    The coroner’s statement was flawed – this has been discussed, to great detail, and his statement was refuted by SIDS expert Dr Sinclair. To reiterate, there are risk factors with bed sharing (not breastfeeding, soft mattress, blankets, pillows, smoking, drinking, drug use, exhaustion) and if you meet these risk factors, you should not bed share. Parents need practical demonstrations on how to safely bed share so that they don’t make dangerous, frustrated decisions in the middle of the night.

    But not everyone bed shares out of frustration, and I bed share because I researched infant sleep, breastfeeding and birth for two years before becoming a parent. So yes, it is a mindful and successful decision, to meet my family needs, which include my own.

    There are risk factors also with putting your baby to sleep in a cot. SIDS risk is increased by having the baby not sleep in the same room, it is increased by not breastfeeding, by passive inhalation of cigarette smoke, by respiratory illness, by over heating, by not having the baby sleep on his/ her back.

    Most infant deaths occur from baby products. How about you write an article to show how unsafe most baby products are?

    Instead, you always, always, always bring it back to blaming women.

    I understand that the staff have experienced horrific, gut-wrenching trauma. But it doesn’t mean everyone must adhere to your experience, and it doesn’t mean that you are allowed to propagate offensive and inaccurate material.

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  41. Plain Jane

    My sister-in-law has a 3-year-old with another due in October. She’s just told the 3-yo that she will soon have to stop sleeping with her to make room for the new baby.

    Now, tell me who that is meant to benefit – mum or baby?!

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  42. Anonymous

    One child I co-slept with when necessary out of complete desperation, the other I moved the bassinet out of our bedroom after one night and as far away from us as possible as he was such a noisy sleeper my partner and I didn’t get any sleep. He has never fallen asleep on me where I have lost count of the times my daughter has. Every child is different and has different needs and every parent copes with that differently. If you choose to co-sleep then know the risks and how to minimise them because sometimes there is just no other way.

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  43. anon

    If it makes you feel comfortable thats the best thing for your family. Personally? Babies are noisy little things, I like my sleep too much (especially when sleep deprived with a newborn) and am a light sleeper so I couldnt think of anything worse than having a noisy little baby even in the same room as me. Its bad enough having to share my bed with my husband and his snoring at times ;) My babies had their own bedroom and that worked for us.

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  44. Anonymous

    I’ve come to the conclusion that whats ‘best’ for the baby is what suits the family. Every situation is different. I had a scheduled c-section for my twin girls because my obstetrician said it was the safest way to bring them into this world, and hubby and I agreed. My breast milk didn’t come in, so we formula fed the girls. They were in their own cots in their own room by 3 weeks of age because they just weren’t settling in our room. I did controlled comforting with them at 6 months along with taking away their dummy because NONE of us were sleeping. I refuse to be made to feel guilty for these practices because I did what suited OUR family! I’ve got two bubbly, happy and loving 19 month old girls and wouldn’t change a thing about how I cared/am caring for them. We, as mothers need to stop judging each other and focus on raising happy, loving and well adjusted children. Enough with the mother guilt.

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  45. ellepap

    I’ve come to the conclusion that whats ‘best’ for the baby is what suits the family. Every situation is different. I had a scheduled c-section for my twin girls because my obstetrician said it was the safest way to bring them into this world, and hubby and I agreed. My breast milk didn’t come in, so we formula fed the girls. They were in their own cots in their own room by 3 weeks of age because they just weren’t settling in our room. I did controlled comforting with them at 6 months along with taking away their dummy because NONE of us were sleeping. I refuse to be made to feel guilty for these practices because I did what suited OUR family! I’ve got two bubbly, happy and loving 19 month old girls and wouldn’t change a thing about how I cared/am caring for them. We, as mothers need to stop judging each other and focus on raising happy, loving and well adjusted children. Enough with the mother guilt.

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  46. Concerned

    Through the course of my work I’ve attended a 6 week old infant found deceased in it’s parents bed. We had to inform the parents that despite our best efforts the child could not be resuscitated. The coroners recommendations are for a reason.

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    • katehegs

      That must have been extremely awful, and I am so sorry you had to experience that.

      But the Coroner’s recommendations do not, and should not apply to everyone. Leading SIDS experts have also criticised Olle for making such a blanket statement.

      An emphatic approach to co-sleeping is unhelpful. Because when parents bed-share/ co-sleep with their infants out of exhaustion and desperation they are much more likely to engage in risky practices (such as sleeping on the sofa). However if they are given resources such as the actual, practical components of HOW to co-sleep (with the bed against the wall, infant in the crook of the arm, on a firm mattress, no pillows or blankets near the infant, probably without a partner or sibling in the bed) it will help in reducing the risk to the infant during those frustrated moments. Furthermore, it will just make at-risk parents lie about their sleeping arrangements, making it harder for health professionals to make the appropriate interventions. Harm minimisation is much more effective than preaching total abstinence.

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  47. rivkah

    Yawn. I can’t see how the posting of this article on MM is adding anything more on this issue than was discussed recently when an article about the Coroner’s findings in relation to the deaths in question was posted.

    I’m also starting to get really sick of discussions that are framed in terms of accusing mothers of doing things to meet their needs rather than their babies needs. The vast majority of mothers will always do what they believe is in the best interests of their baby. I don’t think it makes sense to pit mothers’ and babies’ needs against each other anyway, given that in so many ways, they are so intertwined. And when it comes down to it, what is so wrong about mothers meeting their own needs anyway, so long as they do so in a way that is safe and respectful of their babies’? (Yes, for the record I do not think co-sleeping is implicitly unsafe. Rather, I think there are risks involved that can and should be managed, and I am all for education in this regard. I don’t think telling parents to ‘just say no’ will ever work because for too many, cosleeping is both the most instinctual and pragmatic choice.)

    And another thing – there is so much hypocrisy and inconsistency around this issue of mothers’ versus babies’ needs. On the one hand, so called attachment parenting gets criticised on the grounds that it encourages mothers to subordinate all of their own needs to those of their baby’s. Then on the other hand, mothers get criticised for (supposedly) putting their needs ahead of their baby’s by co-sleeping (or extended breastfeeding or whatever). We can’t win. I’m completely over it!

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    • katehegs

      So true Rivkah.

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    • Liz

      The debate and the article is framed that way to raise maximum ire out of MM readers.

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    • Melsie

      Me too. Over it.

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  48. Jodi

    When I came home with my eldest from the hospital I was determined I would never co-sleep as I was terrified of rolling on him. However by the 5th day with no more then 5 minute bursts of sleep, as he would not sleep AT ALL unless he was in my arms and breastfeeding (even my husband couldn’t settle him), I was a sobbing mess lying on the floor next to my equally distressed son. That was when my midwife came for her home visit, she took one look at me and said “for Pete’s sake just put him in bed with you!” And that one little piece of advice was like a splash of sunlight in the dark, miserable place I had found motherhood until then!

    Even though we were both considered low risk parents (no smoking, drugs etc) for co-sleeping, I was still worried about him being squished between me and my husband or smothered by blankets, (and all my Google searches came up empty on safe co-sleeping alternative beds that you can now purchase – the one in the picture above was exactly what I was after) so I moved with him into the spare room, put the mattress on the floor so he wouldn’t fall more then 10 cms if he did roll and slept with just a sheet over us and a single pillow (with the aircon/heating keeping the room a nice temperate 24 degrees). I have done the same thing with all 3 of my children, and find that I wake up in the exact same position I fall asleep in, no matter how uncomfortable it is. I used to get all sorts of jokes about how it must kill my marriage not sleeping beside my husband, or complete strangers who would lecture me on ‘ruining’ my kids by spoiling them if they ever heard I co-slept, but it was the perfect solution for us. I felt confident that I had made it safe for my kids while they slept, and they were comfortable and happy snuggled up beside me. And my husband was in the next room, not the next state!!

    Co-sleeping isn’t the answer for everyone, but it breaks my heart when bureaucrats and so called experts make sweeping statements like “co-sleeping kills babies”, talk about adding another pile of guilt to us mothers!!! I would have loved to have babies who self settle and sleep through at 6 weeks, like some of my friends do.

    I did what I had to do, what I thought was best for my children and for me, and I would defend it with my last dying breath.

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    • Sophie

      your story is so relevant and I’m pleased you found a good solution for your family. I slept with my baby in our spare room for the first 8 weeks of his life…it was the only way to save my sanity (just) and my husbands. As a newborn he was fed to sleep and kept close to me….it was a case of whatever worked.
      Thankfully he now sleeps soundly in his own cot in his own room. I still wake up in a panic thinking that he’s in bed with me and that he’s buried under the covers or suffocating and it was explained to me that this is simply my maternal instinct coupled with the fatigue that comes with a new baby.
      Honestly, new mothers need gentle support, the vast majority of us are doing our very best. I never had any intention of co-sleeping despite thinking that the concept is very natural and nurturing for mother and child but it was a natural solution in those early weeks.

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    • M

      Well said Jodi. I had a very similar experience with my baby. Thank you for putting it so eloquently and honestly. Co-sleeping for me was a short term solution while I was in the earliest stages of becoming a mother – the first six weeks. Co-sleeping was an conscious choice that I chose to make based on my baby’s needs, which impacted my needs only as far requiring sufficient sleep in order to be able to look after her to the best of my ability during the day. Parents don’t get any breaks, it’s a 24/7 job with many aspects – sleeping is only one thing that babies need to learn. Like Jodi, I would always wake up in the same position that I had fallen asleep in, and it was the only way to rest without losing my sanity because of the long sleepless nights I was experiencing. It may not be something for everyone, and I would recommend it to others with caution but I think it’s very important for health professionals to present it as an option to low-risk mothers in situations like yours and mine (which I’m sure is more common than we think). Whether I choose to co-sleep with my next child will depend on his/her behaviour to begin with.

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  49. retrofit

    I co-slept with all three as newborns. It was a comfort to all of us, it improved our breastfeeding experience and I’ll always cherish the memories.
    I had no qualms because I had removed all risk factors.
    My take on it was that I’d enjoy it while it lasted, because they’re only little for a short time and they soon want their own space.
    I have to admit, though, to still sneaking my youngest, aged three, into my bed some nights when it’s cold or when I’m working long hours – helps us to reconnect. <3

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  50. ToniTuesday

    If people want to co-sleep (that is sharing a sleeping surface, as opposed to the lovely picture above with the baby bed connected to the parental bed) then they are only doing what they feel is best for their baby.

    Mothers shouldn’t be treated like idiots – I like to think that most of these mums have probably done the research, know the statistics and the risks and do it anyway – and that is up to them, entirely.

    There are far too many patronising and condescending attitutes displayed toward mums from other mums. I for one am sick of it!!

    I have 2 children (2 & 4) and my mate, who has one 4 month old daughter used the phrase ‘Well, in my educated opinion…’ and I almost hit the roof, is there a more patronising way to start a sentence?

    Why is it that mums are so desperate to prove that they are getting it completely right and that others aren’t?

    I don’t need a parenting philisophy/set of rules/guidelines to follow – I do what I think is best for my kids, the same as you do for yours.
    I think we all need to remember that before we open our mouths/type/judge.

    /rant

    Oh, and selfish me likes noisy, passionate, grabbing the sheets, sex WAY too much to have the children in bed with us. Judge away puritans!! Ha :)

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