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Working Mother I wanted more than motherhood and a boring job.

 

 

 

by EMMA GREY

Catapulting out of uni, when my brain stopped spinning from readings and essays and tutes, it came to rest not on the career I’d prepped for, but on marriage and babies. My parents had me late-ish, and I wanted my kids to know them. Motherhood – warts and all – felt right. So, at twenty-four, I plunged purposefully into the slow lane, career-wise.

My job paid for electricity and meat and Clarks First Walkers and Gymbaroo and had promotional opportunities and flexibility and sparked about as much creativity as did lying on the couch having a kip. It was safe. I could do it with my eyes shut and focus on other things. Important things… or so I told myself, several years into it, having dredged from somewhere yet another morning’s bucket-load of fake enthusiasm for the kids’ sake.

‘Have a great day at school!  Mummy’s off to work!’ (Yawn… sigh… bleuch – childish dramatics in the face of interminable clock-watching.)

My plan to tread water was well-intended.  I was up for low-stress, medium-level responsibility and work-life balance.  But, at the end of the day, the extra energy that I’d hoped to plug into motherhood had already been sapped by the effort it took to be Bored Senseless during working hours – a situation more challenging than it sounds, that spreads virally into your private life if you let it.

I’d crawl home, exhausted from another day of cruising in a direction that didn’t interest me – eight hours closer to my next holiday, which was never close enough.  I’d tell myself ‘I’m in my comfort zone, and that’s ideal as a working mum…’

Every so often, I’d catch a glimpse of the magic that lies beyond that zone – i.e. the cool stuff that other people do.  Bold people, who – even with kids – have grass stains on their knees from all the times they’ve fallen over, giving a career they’re wildly passionate about a red-hot go.

My knees were pristine, and the longer I clung to the status quo, the less comfortable it became in the fortress I’d built to stay secure and protected.  From what?  Exposure?  Mistakes?  Failure?  Eventually it dawned that, in my effort to be conservative and sensible and ‘family friendly’ – I wasn’t being me.

The ‘Am I good enough?’ mantra that had blasted through my internal PR system for years was soon drowned by a new question: ‘Is this good enough?’ This life ‘half lived’?  These opportunities shelved…

The taste of possibility was more-ish and, despite not seeing the big picture yet, I formed an ‘exit strategy’.  First question: How long could I stay here – miserable in the wrong job – serving up to my kids a poor imitation of the mother they might have if I’m being ‘all of me’.

Another year?  Three months?  Three minutes?

None of the above?

Gah! Would my alternative plan work?  It meant starting from scratch.  It meant an enormous drop in income.  It meant a sharp rise in the number of times I heard, ‘are you crazy?’

Easier to stay in the comfort zone, perhaps…

Except, having opened my mind to another way, I couldn’t close it again.  I knew that the fear of failure would chase me and find me and taunt me like a school bully while I cowered in the toilets.  Frankly, I was cowering in the toilets anyway – hoping to make short work of another five minutes in an endless working day.

Why not run towards what I wanted, instead of away from what I didn’t want?  What was really the worst that could happen?

Confidence shows up when we need it.  We don’t need it to laze in our pyjamas, watching cooking shows, thinking ‘I wish my life was different.’ We need it to push ‘send’ on the resignation email, to lick that stamp on the enrolment papers and to register a business name.

When my daughter started pre-school, she was barnacled to my ankle. Every morning I dragged her back to face it.  Every morning there were tears (hers and mine).  Almost a decade later, I watch as she ever-so-coolly sashays into the school yard and I think, ‘Is that the same girl?

Several years after I pressed ‘send’ on that email to my boss, saying ‘Thank you – I have to go …’ maybe my daughter wonders the same about me.  Is this the same Mum?

The one with the grass stains on her knees, falling onto the couch at night – sated from work, loving motherhood – success and failure littered like Christmas wrapping around her.

No longer wondering ‘What if?’ but ‘What next…’

Emma Grey is the author of Wits’ End Before Breakfast! Confessions of a Working Mum (Lothian, 2005) and director of the life-balance consultancy, WorkLifeBliss.  She regularly writes on motherhood, work and relationships on her blog which you can find here.

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  1. Mellyjh

    Hi Emma,
    I understand this completely. I sometimes wish I could change direction, even if it just means a change of school… I’m a single mum of a gorgeous five yr old and a full-time high school teacher. I’m yet to find a balance, but knowing that I can provide everything for my child (my ex husband wants no part) and still be there for her in the afternoons and holidays is really important to me. Now I know many may see me as selfish but just occasionally I yearn for some ”me’ time… The early morning and ridiculously late nights just to fit everything in are wearing thin!
    I commend you for being able to see a need for change and having the confidence to embrace it.

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    • Emma Grey

      Hi Melly,

      You sound like a great mum. There is nothing selfish about wanting some ‘me time’ as a full time mum and teacher. Think of that oxygen mask on a plane – we’re instructed in the safety briefing to fit it to ourselves, before we help others… The same is said for motherhood. To be the best, most engaged, healthy, happy mother that you can be, you need some ‘oxygen’ of your own.

      All the best. I know it’s hard being a single mum.

      xo

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  2. Career crossroads

    After maternity leave stint #2, I decided that the well-paid, cushy corporate role that I’d had for many years was not providing the challenge I was craving. The job was convenient and easy, but I felt bored and complacent.
    So, I made the brave decision to swap comfort for excitement and the opp to learn a new industry.
    At first, I loved the change. It was new and I felt the most stimulated in a work environment in a long time. But, after a few months – it started to catch up to me.
    I physically didn’t have the time to work the long hours and immerse myself in the job. I was frustrated knowing I needed to do better, and constantly feeling guilty for always stressing about work and not spending enough time with the kids and being a crabby wife.
    In the end, I decided that actually it wasn’t the right time for a new career challenge, and resigned not actually knowing what my next career move is.
    Being a working mum isn’t easy and I’ve concluded that what it boils down to is that family comes first, career second. My next move will reflect this….

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    • Emma Grey

      You are so right – working motherhood is not easy!

      Best wishes with your next move, and enjoy your family always.

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    • me too

      I’m at a similar crossroads

      I left a career I enjoyed when I realised that the logical next step (for which it was time) was not compatible with the type of family life I wanted. I started postgrad studies when pregnant with #2 for a new career (which would hopefully have part time opportunities and no travel).

      Fast forward 2 years and I accepted a full time job I hadn’t expected to be offered and found the massive pay cut (bottom rung of a lower paying industry) combined with it being less stimulating than I’d expected after the initial newness wore off was not worth the toll 2 full time jobs were taking on our family (and my employer’s walk did not match their recruitment material’s talk on flexibility, part time and family friendliness).

      So for me too family comes first and career second. I realise we’re lucky we can afford to make the choice for me to stay at home, and I’m thankful for that. For some reason I trust that when the time’s right an opportunity will present itself, but for now I can’t quite see what it will be. And I’m surprised at how OK I am with that. Mostly. Sort of. Sometimes.

      But I want to build on the advances my mum’s generation made. She had a 20 year banking career (where she was paid as a man because there were no women’s pay scales for her role). She started the day after she left school and resigned at 36, partly due to the cost of after school/daycare for 3 kids, and partly due to pressure to be at home with us. But I know that by the time I finished school she was bored with many of the endless (and thankless) demands of home life and perhaps was planning to find ‘something more’ when we were older. Unfortunately she died at 48 so never got the chance.

      I’d like to think that a generation on we have options other than ‘all’ or ‘nothing’, even if we have to make them for ourselves.

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  3. Michael Byrne

    So where is hubby and dad in all of this me-me-me stuff? Written out as an optional extra as required or not relevant to the story or simply not applicable?

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    • Emma Grey

      Hi Michael,

      That’s quite a strong response and I’m wondering where this comes from.

      You might be interested in this article that I wrote on the role of fathers (specifically my husband) and I hope you’ll understand how I feel about that (by the way – the title wasn’t my idea).

      http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/fathers-officially-not-as-crap-as-mothers-say/

      My husband already has a fulfilling, stimulating career that he adores (which is not to say that he is ‘me me me’). I didn’t. The career that I now have allows him to continue in his role, while I change mine.

      That is what this article is about, so – in answer to your question – not relevant to the story but very relevant in our lives. Interesting that you asked…

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      • Michael Byrne

        Hello Emma. My comment / question flow from my questioning of some contemporary thought….

        How can any essay on family life not have reference to the spouse? Good, bad or indifferent. The idea seems to be lost that this primary and complementary human relationship is the source of our mutual well being, whether cleaning woman or CEO. Or does contemporary thought discount this to a mere token; it is good to have if you can get (purchase?) it but not necessary or worth any higher consideration. The notion of the self autonomous individual in marriage is indeed problematic. The demands of child caring force a certain level of “otherness”, but if the SAI reigns then things will be tough for all concerned.

        A further fallacy of our age is that human flourishing is somehow linked to “career”. The work place is a false community essentially based on ego, power and money, the great blockers to a fuller humanity whilst they reign in one’s life. Labour is exchanged to fund the family for the good of the family. A basic exchange that has been lost in our endeavours to be comfortable, as opposed to being happy, and to be in control as opposed to just managing things as they are in the great messiness of life.

        You did ask where my comments come from.. cheers

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        • Emma Grey

          Hi Michael,

          Thanks for replying.

          I write a lot about family and parenting. It is my primary focus (both in life and in my articles).

          This particular article was about my career. My career has been set against a backdrop of having a spouse, and not having a spouse. I was a single mother for some years after my first marriage ended, around the time that I began this career change.

          I hope you had time to read the article I linked about fathers, as it makes clear my thoughts about my husband’s role in family life. When I wrote that article, I didn’t reference my career, as it wasn’t the topic of the article.

          Likewise, in this article, the focus is career and a sense of ‘how can I be the best mother I can be’. I didn’t reference my husband (who fully supports my career change).

          You mention the idea of career being focused on ego/power/money. Last week, I had one of my career highlights. A post on my Facebook page prompted a woman to go ‘live’ on her business website that day (after years of self-doubt). There was no money attached to this highlight – she is not a client. There was a strong sense of reward, for having contributed a thought that helped her take action on something she’d been stuck on for some time – which was exciting, along with the community of responses that assisted her to this point.

          I don’t have a ‘workplace’ as such – I work from home, with my toddler and older children. This is partly to enable my own career, and partly to enable my husband’s. We mutually support each other.

          As many of the women have said in response to this post, they are more ‘engaged’ as parents (and, I’m guessing, as partners) when in careers that they enjoy. Personally, I feel most engaged when I have a fulfilling career and a fulfilling relationship. There have been times when I only had one of these, and times when I didn’t have either.

          I don’t regard myself as ‘self autonomous in a relationship’. I think of both of us as individuals, whose lives intersect through our love for each other, shared interests, shared responsibilities and the family we have together. That we support each other to chase our own dreams from the safe haven of the marriage only enriches this.

          And I totally agree with you that life is messy! :-)

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  4. KTT

    Is there a reason why you changed the title to this article, mamamia?

    You have now made it seem like a “woman wants it all” article with a selfish touch to it. Where it appeared from the author, and her comments below, that it was about pushing herself out of her comfort zone and challenging herself. It wasn’t about finding “more” it was about finding herself.

    Don’t change a title just to try and be more controversial.

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  5. Daisy

    I’m wondering if we are just hard to please?! I was a teacher and had 4 children of my own. I love children.Through circumstances I had to go back to work fulltime when the first two were 6 weeks old, but it was a choice I made that seemed the right one at the time. For the second one, I was able to go back part time. For the other two I went back part time at 12 months and 6 months. As I was a teacher, i was always able to be there for my children and picked them up at 3 even if I worked later in the night.
    Strangely, I was a better mother for working part time as I was bored being at home all the time and found it really hard. Of course working with other people’s children and going home to your own each day is also really hard!
    I look back now, from my financially comfortable position and think why did I put myself through that. It ‘s very easy to idealise the past though I am now retired and love that! I used to dream of a boring job, someting like in a plant nursery because I love gardening and plants don’t talk! There is lot to be said for having enough energy for a balanced life.

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    • Emma Grey

      Hi Daisy,

      So many mums find that part-time work is the best balance for them. (If only it was possible for everyone – sometimes, for example as a single mum, you have to work full time.)

      I take my hat off to teachers. I really do. I wrangle three at home and think I deserve a medal half the time!! How do you do it??

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      • Daisy

        Thanks, Emma. I know what you mean. My husband was a fulltime student when we had the first 2, studying for a PhD. We had a mortgage etc and chose to do things that way. Just as well seeing I had 4 as I was 36 when the last was born. If we had waited longer, i may not have been able to have them all. We made the choice to put in the hard yards when we were young. And they were hard for both my husband and I but like anything you are faced with, you just get on with it! The children didn’t suffer. When we couldn’t afford childcare, my husband and I split the week between us, 4 days, 3 days. I was still able to breastfeed arriving home with bursting boobs !When we could afford it, I was super fussy and made sure the children were in home based care with the one carer until they started their pre school experience 2 days a week at 3, and with their carer on the other day. By then, I was part time. None of these things were without cost though.We had no family yo help. At times, I felt guilt or anxiety, at times I was so tired I was on automatic pilot and my superannuation was permanently lessened from going part time. I managed never to resign though and that is one of the reasons I sit where I do today. Of course there were lots of good times too. It’s not a case of poor me.
        So now, as I mentioned, I am happily retired. My children are young adults and while none of them are yet fully independent (all students still..and high achievers), my life is infinitely easier and as I mentioned, financially comfortable enough.
        At times, people have said to me that I am lucky and certainly there is a certain amount of good or bad luck in everybody’s life. However, I do get a little annoyed about this as I think there is a such a thing as making your own luck, or at least tipping the scales. There was a lot of hard work that went into my luck!
        Good luck with whatever you choose to do!

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  6. Ashlee

    This has come along at the perfect time for me. Have been evaluating alot in terms of my future career goals. I’ve got 2 kids 2 and 4. Its taken the birth of my kids to make me realise my calling in life is a midwife ( currently a dental nurse). It’s a scary step so much study with the juggle of kids etc. we also want another baby so I’ve made the decision to put my uni dreams on hold and to have another baby wait a few years and then be more ready and able to give myself to study. I’m 27. Anyone have any advice on waiting til your kids are that bit older to live your dream?

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    • Emma Grey

      Hi Ashlee,

      I started ‘living my dream’ when two of my kids were older and it was great. I began studying a masters during this time, and then withdrew from the course as a whole and took the ‘grad cert’ level, because it was taking up too much family time.

      That night, my daughter (then about 8) burst into tears and said, ‘MUMMY! You can’t give up on your DREAMS!’

      It was a beautiful moment – to realise that your kids really do look at what you’re doing and consider you a role model.

      (I still gave up on the Masters, as it just wasn’t practical with full-time work and kids, but I loved her sentiment.)

      These days, people chop and change careers far more easily than previously. Most people will have several careers in their lifetimes.

      Midwifery would be amazing…

      Good luck with it all.

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  7. brandisnaps

    Thank you for this post and all the inspiring stories. I had always planned to have 2 kids by the time I was 30, one month before I turned 31 I had my second healthy baby boy. I spent the first 12 months getting used to being a mum of 2 active boys, a husband that worked way too much and a job that I never really clicked with. I was always of the belief that you should follow your dreams and do what you love. Look after number 1!! My dad, a successful man, said to me about 6 months ago “whilst your kids are young and you have an ‘easy and flexible’ job why would you want to go anywhere else, you have a family to look after”, he’s my dad, I never questioned him. Until today, I am about to enrol in a part time photography course, a dream since before finishing secondary school. Thank you Emma. Thank you.

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    • Emma Grey

      Brandisnaps – your post is inspiring, and another reminder that so often we do things that are ‘expected of us’. Sometimes, the expectation is not even real – but in our minds… (though not in your case, as it was voiced!)

      Enjoy the photography course, and all the ideas that might flow from it.

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  8. Lily

    I could have written this today. Well, the first part anyway. I’m back at work after having my first baby. Working three days a week, BORED out of my mind and so frustrated I could bang my head on my desk. I made a deal with myself to ride it out another year or so and then start working on bubba number two and THEN start thinking about a new path for myself.

    I am not sure I can wait that long though. I’m 30 years old and I feel like I’m wasting my days. But, a secure job with decent income and flexible conditions is what we’re all supposed to want…and yet… sigh.

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    • Emma Grey

      Hi Lily,

      I think a lot of us hit 30 and begin to revise the decisions we made in our 20s… (at least, that’s how it appeared with my friends and I). I think it’s fantastic to make these changes in your 30s – you begin to know who you are and want you want, the further away you get from doing what was expected of you… (if that makes sense).

      Good luck!

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      • Lily

        Thanks Emma. I tend to be overly pessimistic about these things. Have to keep reminding myself that just because I’m doing it today doesn’t mean I will be forever. IN fact, this afternoon after reading this piece I went and spoke to my boss and we started the process to incorporating some of the things I would rather be doing into my current role… Very exciting, so thank you!

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        • Emma Grey

          Great news, Lily – I’m glad you’re taking a proactive approach at work. You make a good point – that sometimes we can make the change within our current roles…

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    • brandisnaps

      Lily, you are my life 2 years ago. JUST DO IT!!!

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  9. Dan@theboringjob

    I read this article sitting at the desk of one such – boring, stable, flexible, mummy friendly job…counting down the days until I go on a 3rd round of maternity leave. My surprise baby #3 might just be my ticket to make some change and be a happier wife and mother, I can so relate to the smiling and chirping ‘mummy is off to work have a great day’ (but I would rather stay at home and do the laundry its that freakin boring!). Thanks for the eye opener, my husband loves his job, why the hell shouldn’t I?

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    • Emma Grey

      I love your last point, Dan!! Best wishes for the new baby, too.

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  10. Fiona

    I’m 43 and am changing career by studying for a Masters. When I’m finished, I’ll be starting at the bottom of that new career after a 15 year career in PR and five years as a SAHM (big gap on the resume right there).

    I could worry myself sick about whether anyone will employ a freshly qualified, 45-year-old in an entry level job but meh, you only live once.

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    • Emma Grey

      Hi Fiona,

      Congratulations on the career change. If I was employing someone I’d like someone with fresh quals and loads of experience in the workforce/life. Also, in your time as a SAHM, you’ve changed as a person, broadened what you can cope with and developed new skills.

      You may like to check out the website of my colleague, Kate Sykes, who offers fabulous tips to mums who have been out of the workforce, particularly in terms of their CV, as well as advertising flexible jobs.

      http://www.careermums.com.au

      All the best!

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  11. Dee of Adelaide

    THank you for a wonderful post

    I was self employed for the first 2 years of Red Rockets life. It was okay paying and meant that whilst I worked full time she was rarely in child care because I just worked all night. I didn’t have the time to do the travel to chase the exciting work so did the mundane but regular work.

    I took a role I love when she was 2 and got the grass stains. And then six months pregnant with a complex pregnancy got an enormous promotion. What I couldn’t believe was that it was BETTER. Even with longer hours nad more stress I was happier than before. I think if you have to/want to work then to be able to do things you like and love are worth some sacrifices. I’m now glad that if I’m going to go to work every day, its to be challenged and enjoy it.

    Big Fella is about to start a new job that takes him from short hours to long, easy work to hard and I know he’ll be much happier. Even if I have to start pulling my weight around the house.

    Love the analogies in your post.

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    • Emma Grey

      Dee – you raise such a great point. Happy mum = happy kids.

      Good luck with the housework!! ;-)

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  12. Bea

    Life is too short and you never know what tomorrow may bring. Dont wait as tomorrow may never arrive. I quit a good paying role last year to start my own online sportswear business, http://www.braveheartsportswear.com. Its a lot of hard work but I’m my own boss and I’m doing something I love. It doesn’t get better than that.

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    • Emma Grey

      Congratulations on taking a risk, Bea – and on your new business. All the best for your success!

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  13. Anon today.

    Comfort Zone. So far out of it lately and I have really had enough. My marriage has broken down and everything I’m doing at the moment is out of my comfort zone and really, I need some comfort zone back. (in saying that, the breakdown was a big shock and I didn’t see it coming).

    Until he left, I’d been getting a few grass stains, and it was great, but now it’s just plain overwhelming. New job, new house, change in arrangements with the kids, leaving my support network. Change in financial status, change in relationship status. I go to the gym and break down in tears as it’s hard, and I can’t do “hard” right now, but I need to go to get the stress out.

    I really want my old life back and I’m really struggling (today…not every day is like this) with this new life where I’m out of my comfort zone.

    I know that it will get better, but I just am over stepping out of my comfort zone where I can’t see a better life for me. I just see such hard stuff ahead, and not a lot of positive stuff.

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    • Emma Grey

      Anon today,

      I’m so sorry you’re doing it tough right now.

      This is one of those times when I can genuinely say ‘I know how you feel’. I have been through marriage breakdown and divorce with kids, and all of the components of that which you have listed in your comment. All of them.

      This is not the time to step out of your comfort zone – you’re already an enormous distance out of it. This is the time to focus exclusively on what you and your children need to get through this difficult time. That means eating, sleeping, spending time breathing and seeking help from family, friends and professionals to assist you through this.

      There is hard stuff ahead, you are right. It is natural only to see that at this stage…

      There will be positive stuff later, hard as that may be for you to believe right now. Focus on ‘this too shall pass’ and take care.

      Are you getting some help from someone, Anon?

      xx

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    • Jules

      Anon, having had a marriage breakdown myself, been penniless, having to find a job so that I could survive let me assure you it does get better and easier. If you are finding life a bit too hard at the moment, there is help.

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    • Anon today.

      Thanks Emma and Jules.

      Yep, I am getting help, and have a great support network with my family and my girlfriends. So that’s good. I’m trying to see lots of positives and 95% of the time, I’m really good. There’s just that other 5% when it hits you like a tonne of bricks, and usually at the time where the kids are the most demanding and you just want to run away.

      Thank you for the comments though, so gratefully accepted!

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    • raraluna

      Cyber hugs going out to you Anon Today – life throws us curveballs that absolutely suck sometimes. All you can do is just take it a step at a time, a day at a time. Then you get out the other side, look back and think – wow how did I survive that? But survive you must and will. xx

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  14. becsparrow

    I love this Emma!

    I get something out of every post you write. Give me grass stains on my knees every day of the week.

    xxxx

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    • Emma Grey

      Thanks, Bec.

      And from one imperfect mum to another – can I just say LOVE your article today. LOVE IT.

      xxoo

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  15. Bella

    Thank you for this!! It’s just what I need. I’m in my final year of law (pulling myself through another headache inducing exam period right now) and, as much as I enjoy (parts of) it, I’ve realised this year especially that it’s just not for me. Instead of beginning a stable career next year, I’ve decided to follow my passion and study classical voice.

    Even if I end up having a wildly erratic career in that path, I couldn’t care less. All I know is it’s something I have to do in order to be true to myself and to be happy.

    And your post just reaffirmed that.

    Thank you!

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    • faerygodmother

      Your post made me wonder about how many of our choices we make with a thought of being financialy secure over emotionally and creatively fulfilled. How many of us have “well you can’t make a living out of ….” ringing in our heads. Good for you on chasing your passion, and good luck!

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    • bee85

      The bravest and best thing you can do for yourself is to follow your passion. Go for it and don’t look back! x

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    • Emma Grey

      Bella – what a wonderful step. All the best, and please keep the MM community posted! xx

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  16. Holidaydecisionmaker

    Wow. This is just what I needed!!

    I’m 25 – 2.5 years out of Uni and in a job that pays great but inspires me (most days) about the same as a a sleep on the couch!

    I’m currently on holidays and after having a good think, I am very much considering going back to uni to do law. This would mean part time work (hopefully I can swing this) and part time study for the next 6 years but I had considered the life/kids/future factor (despite the fact I’m currently single!)…
    This article may of have just been the sign I was waiting for!!

    (excuse spelling/grammar I’m on my iPhone and it’s *ahem* way past wine o’clock!!)

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    • Emma Grey

      Holidays are a great time to contemplate your life and whether you’re on a course that you’ll enjoy long term. Enjoy the break, and all the best for career choices. (I love that, these days, it’s ‘choices’ – plural – and that we have moved beyond the ‘one job for life’ idea).

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  17. Kylie2

    Love your work Emma! I’m certainly gulity of having chosen flexible, easy jobs over creative and fulfilling ones in the past. I agree that fear of failure and worry about missing the kids were big drivers.

    This year I left my very secure, part-time role for a 12 month contract working full time. It was scary and exciting at the same time.

    I am loving the new challenge and sometimes wish I’d done it sooner but I’ll never regret spending lots of time with my kids when they were young.

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    • Emma Grey

      Wonderful that you’re combining challenging work with kids, Kylie. I think that being ‘present’ for the kids can be a physical presence (in the room) and an emotional/mental one. Lots of comments here from women who feel more ‘switched on’ as a mum with a challenging job, despite the extra work stress.

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  18. gemmie

    great article! I have been OUT of my comfort zone for all of my career and really thinking lately I would prefer a mundane job where I can just go to work, do my work, and go home without having to think about it again until the next day. Thanks for posting, gives me something to mull over.
    (Posted from work. On a Sunday afternoon. On a long weekend)

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    • Emma Grey

      Gemmie – maybe there is a middle ground? Also, if you’ve never really ‘settled’ in your career, perhaps it’s not the right one for you… We all have times where we’re on a steep learning curve – but eventually it’s meant to get easier/more familiar.

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  19. cher

    Great article, Emma. I think we all need to constantly assess where we’re going and what works for us and our families. I’m glad it has worked out so well for you.

    The grass stains on my knees were not in the plan, but I’m so glad they’re there. I did everything I could to stay home with my kids, then everything I could to work part time (in an unfulfilling job) and be home more. But, by the time my kids were 2 and 4, finances had forced me back to my full time career. I remember crying all the way home after my first day because I knew exactly how hard it was going to be to juggle everything.

    And yes, I was right, the first year was particularly tough. But I love my job and find it so rewarding. Six years later, my kids are fantastic and accept it as completely normal that we all have work or school to go to every day. I know I’m a better person because of work and that they have a happier mother. And I have my priorities in order. There might be times I can’t spend with the kids because I have to work – but the housework never takes precedence!

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    • Emma Grey

      Thanks, Cher – I love the grass stains too.

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  20. MissMin

    What are people’s thought on waiting till you’re a bit older before you have kids? I know you can’t always plan it, but if you married young for example, would you (or did you) wait a few years before kids, or even 10 years because there were things you wanted to do first?

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    • cher

      MissMin, I married young and waited 8 years to have kids. I had to have everything just right first – financial security, house and career in order. All went to plan. Then, two years ago, everything fell apart. We lost everything we had built up and battled illness as well. Now I wonder why I had been so worried about being ‘sensible’. If I’d had the kids earlier we would have coped just fine.

      So, essentially, I believe you should do what you feel comfortable with. My only advice is to try to be in a strong relationship first – motherhood is tough!

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      • MissMin

        That must have been tough, I hope family health issues are better now for you, it’s a horrible situation to be in especially with financial worries in the mix!
        And thanks for sharing and your advice, I love hearing how other people go about balancing life :) I’ve been lucky enough to see my parents and my grandparents all have rock-solid marriages, so I know what sort of relationship I want :)

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        • cher

          Thanks! Things are looking up now and health issues are receding. We just keep plugging away :)

          Hope you get the relationship you want and deserve!

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    • Emma Grey

      Hi MissMin,

      It’s a great question, and a hard one to answer. I had my first two at 25 and 27 and my third at 37 and I’m finding benefits at each age. While there may be times in your life when the situation is closer to ‘ideal’ to have a baby, I don’t think there is ever a ‘right time’. As Cher has said here, you can do all the planning in the world and things may still fall in a heap.

      Leaving it til later means that you may be more financially settled, and further along in your career. Being further along in your career can make things more challenging in terms of juggling both – you’re potentially in a more responsible and demanding position, and many women struggle to make the leap into motherhood while they’re entrenched in a career that they love.

      More challenging than this, though, is leaving it later then struggling to conceive. While I was fortunate not to experience fertility problems, several of my friends are now, in their late 30s, facing multiple rounds of IVF, some with success and some still trying and hoping.

      I think it’s great to do some things that you want to do before kids, but not at the expense of fertility, if wanting children is part of your life plan…

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      • MissMin

        Thanks for taking the time to answer, I appreciate your point of view :) Interesting that you’ve had a break between the elder 2 and your youngest, the benefits for each age are interesting.

        I don’t know anyone that’s tried IVF, but if the horror stories I hear from other people on MM are anything to go by, that’s NOT in the life plan if I can avoid it!

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        • Emma Grey

          Thanks, Min – the little one is from my second marriage (hence the gap). :-)

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    • Nicki

      MissMin, none of us are born with a map to guide us to success and happiness. Not many people will admit how good luck has assisted them when they are successful. Life is about diminishing options and learning from your mistakes (and the mistakes of others, too!).

      My advice is: trust your gut instinct.

      I wish YOU Good Luck :)

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  21. chellebelle

    I’m in this head space right now. I have a job that is everything I want (flexible, part time, well paid) apart from fulfilling. I need to break out and do something different, but I have so far failed to find a new job that allows me to work part time and hence spend time with my young kids. I’m finding it hard to work out what the sacrifice. Do I work full time and have less time with my kids but feel happier within myself (but wishing I could be with them more) or do I stay in a job I don’t like, have time with them, but not be a great mum because I’m unhappy? It feels like I’m damned if I do and damned if I don’t. Why oh why can’t I have it all? Surely there’s someone out there who wants to employ someone awesome but part time?!

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    • MissMin

      You know my mum went back to full time work when I (the youngest of 2) was 7 – and she had been part time from when I was about 3. I think it made her happier, and it made me and my brother contribute to the family more (doing dishes, helping to cook etc). It worked really well for our family and made us all pull together better.
      Mum’s condition was that if she went back to full time work (as she wanted to) we got a cleaner in once a week so she didn’t have to spend weekends cleaning bathrooms and things, but could enjoy gardening or something in her own time. It took the pressure off dad a bit too.

      But from the kids perspective – I remember noticing the difference and thinking I liked this new mum who came home tired but happy at the end of the day :)

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      • chellebelle

        MissMin thank you so much for taking the time to reply and give me this positive example. It is very much appreciated.

        PS we already have a fortnightly cleaner. I wonder if I could stretch it to a housekeeper or gardener as well?!

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        • MissMin

          No worries :) If you decide to go for it, I hope it works out for you! And if you’re worried about the kids missing out on time with you, don’t stress, because your kids will understand (eventually if not right away!) and you’ll have more time to really give them your full attention and interest in what they get up to when you haven’t spent all day with them :)

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    • Emma Grey

      Hi Chellebelle,

      Agree with MissMin – I recall my mum going back to work (in the 80s) and being so proud of her, after several years of staying home with my sister and I. My daughters (now 13 and 11) love that I work and ask about my day, help me with my technology (PowerPoint presentations etc) and really get involved in this part of my life, which is great.

      You may be aware that the National Employment Standards state that an employee who is a parent of a child under school age (or under 18 if the child has a disability) has a right to request flexible work.

      This can include a request for changes in hours (total hours, or start/finish times), changes in patterns of work (job share etc) or changes in location of work (working from home etc).

      This is a right to ‘request’ flexible arrangements, not a right to ‘have’ them, however the employer must consider the request and respond in writing, with a solid business reason if the answer is ‘no’.

      I run workshops for employers/managers with a colleague, Kate Sykes, of CareerMums and we educate managers on how to develop detailed flexible work proposals with their staff, how to assess these and make flexible arrangements work.

      So often, we see that the extent of the conversation between manager/employee was ‘I want to work three days a week’, ‘Ok, which days?’ and that’s about it. What’s missing is fleshing out the logistics of the proposal – identifying the impact on the job and the team, who will do the work when you’re not there, how can these challenges be overcome etc. (We have a about twenty questions along these lines that create a higher likelihood that the arrangement will work.) This helps to avoid the age-old problem of part-timers cramming in a full-time workload and also assists in communication/morale in the team.

      So, when you’re looking at your next career step – even if it’s a full-time job, remember that you have a right to request flexibility. This may mean you’re still working full-time, but in a flexible way in terms of pattern of hours or location of work.

      Employers are gradually coming around to this way of thinking (there’s a long way to go) and this will become more urgent for them, once baby boomers retire and Gen Y has families. Once the ‘Digital Natives’ (generation following Gen Y) get into the workforce, they won’t stand for Industrial Age working patterns – there will be no need, due to advancements in technology.

      Hope this helps!

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      • Faybian

        I agree that technology is going to change the way a lot of jobs are done, but not some. There are always going to be jobs that have to be face to face? You can’t exactly work from home if you’re an emergency service worker can you?

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        • Emma Grey

          Nor a brain surgeon!

          Yes, there are some jobs that are never going to be ‘work from home’ suitable – however they may be job-share suitable, or flexible-hours suitable.

          In most jobs, there is a component of the work that must be done in the office/on-site and some tasks that can be done more flexibly, or outside traditional hours.

          We met someone recently who knows a physiotherapist who works remotely with patients, via Skype and the Wii! And my daughter was taught in Year 2 by two teachers who job-shared the class brilliantly.

          It’s a good idea to include ‘face time’ in any job if that is possible – there is still nothing like face-to-face contact. I think anyone who has had a Skype call go blurry or wobbly or drop out would agree that technology still has a long way to go.

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          • Emma Grey

            btw, on the topic of Skype – when I had my last baby there was a new mum on the ward who delivered her baby with her husband ‘by her side’ via Skype, from Mexico! Amazing stuff!

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      • chellebelle

        Thank you so much for this thoughtful and useful reply Emma. I didn’t know that the NES allowed for the request, and will try to use this constructively if possible.

        Thanks again.

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  22. Susan As Well

    Loved reading this post and the women’s stories below.

    It never ceases to thrill me when I see the amount of fortitude, thinking, planning, energy, creativity and all round balancing that women put into their lives as mums and careerists.

    Each of us will have our own journey through this stage of our lives and I hope that we all stretch ourselves out of the comfort zone at times so that we can find a new, even better comfort zone. It’s like continuous quality improvement. Start with a quality product (us) and continue to make it even better. Awesomeness!

    In my 20′s I mucked around with nursing and other jobs, never really committing to anything of a career. My 30′s I went back to uni and got my degree, single working mum with 3 kids under 7. My 40′s and I’m mucking around again but got another uni qualification. My 50′s and the career push is well and truly on again, as well as completing my masters. Thank goodness, that 50 is the new 40, otherwise I would supposed to be slowing down, not speeding up! It doesn’t have to a straight line and for most of us, it just can’t be when you add marriage and children into the mix.

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    • Emma Grey

      Susan – this is inspirational. Thank you, and best wishes for your masters!

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    • Gengen

      you are inspiring Susan! Good luck with your masters :)

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      • Susan As Well

        Thanks Emma and Gengen. It’s the women around me and the women’s stories that inspire me to have a go at things outside my comfort zone. You are all my inspiration too!

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  23. KTT

    Actually mine was the other way….I was completely dedicated to my career and had fully accepted that’s who I was and what I wanted to be. I backed myself for every job I went for and threw myself at every opportunity that came my way – and decided that my life was filled with fabulous friends, fabulous family and a fabulous single, really who cares about a relationship, life. That was my comfort zone and i was not going to change it for anyone! My life overhaul actually came when I met someone who pushed me out of my comfort zone. Told me it was ok to be a little softer on myself and enjoy sitting on the couch watching cooking shows, and yes, become a mother. Everyone’s comfort zone is a different place. So for the time being I have swapped my suits for jeans, my skyscrapping heels for flats, and embraced a whole other zone that I never thought I would love quite as much as I do.

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    • Emma Grey

      You’re so right, KTT – one person’s ‘discomfort zone’ is another’s ‘happy place’. It’s an amazing feeling when we find that we can do the thing we never thought we could – and not only do it, but enjoy it!

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  24. Debinperth

    Emma, thank you for your insightful article that practically mirrors so many of my thoughts. I love your reference to ‘catching a glimpse of life that lies beyond the comfort zone’. My journey has been slightly different, in that I would look back at the life I had while in a new comfort zone.

    The arrival of my wonderful son set in motion a chain of events that would dramatically alter my social, relationship and financial life. For years I regressed into what’s ‘comfortable and safe’, licking my wounds and looking back on a glittering, successful, financially stable corporate marketing career and action-packed pre-child existence, while trying to plod my way through hurt and grief into single motherhood with all it’s societal judgements, financial stress, and social distance.

    At the time I felt cursed and wronged, and shook my fist to the sky many times. However, thank goodness my son came along, for many many beautiful reasons but one being to force me to look into myself, given my changed circumstances, and make a decision whether to stay there. I tentatively reached out to start my own sales business (VERY much out of my comfort zone!) and have spent a few years building it. It’s to the point of earning a modest income, but I am self-supportive and eager to grow.

    I love the part you mention about an exit strategy. This is sorely needed to help the change be a little bit more in control! Take exit steps out of the comfort zone, cross but don’t burn bridges, set goals and make dream boards, write a plan, and if you can, gather a support network. Then go for it!

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    • Emma Grey

      Hi Deb,

      Thanks for sharing your experience and also for your last paragraph, which is such sound advice for people thinking of making a change.

      I understand what it’s like as a single mum (having been one for several years after my first marriage ended) – and it’s challenging. I agree with what you say about being ‘forced’ to look at yourself and adjust. Being on my own gave me the impetus to make different career choices – to grow and get more serious about it – and it’s interesting looking back on how that unfolded now.

      Best wishes for the further development of your business, and enjoy life with your wonderful son.

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      • Debinperth

        Thank you Emma :) All the best to you too!

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    • Nicki

      I love this comment.

      Exit strategies are an under-rated necessity – and, when making changes, so are safety-nets!

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      • Debinperth

        Absolutely Nicki, couldn’t agree more! Change doesn’t always flow neatly and according to plan. :)

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  25. Anon

    Great post! I can totally relate. I never backed myself, even after I completed my prestigeous tertiary education thinking “there’s always someone better for the job”, and I let the world pass me by most of my 20′s doing crappy unfulling jobs really well.

    My perspective changed completely recently and I can thank having my kids. It’s now that I have small children who are well adjusted beautiful and kind that I have realised my worth. I’m proud to say I’m awesome at the hardest job in the world, mothering, because I back myself. I’m now more motivated than ever to be the person I know I am by following my dreams. I look forward to the future.

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    • Emma Grey

      Anon – this is wonderful. We need to hear more from mums who back themselves, rather than beat themselves up. xx

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  26. faerygodmother

    “Confidence shows up when we need it. We don’t need it to laze in our pyjamas, watching cooking shows, thinking ‘I wish my life was different.”

    Sounds like me. Unfortunatly we can’t just let my income drop while I’m working on chasing my dream because hubby to be is still in a state of flux after a workplace injury meant he had to have a complete life overhaul and new career path. One life change at a time I suppose.
    Having said that I am making baby steps towards the life I really want, and trying not to get cranky when I balance work, home life and dream chasing. All that means that sometimes it takes me longer to get around to doing the dishes or vacuuming under the bed, but I’m happier to have another post for my blog or a few new readers, the bills paid and still be connected with a nearly teenage daughter.

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    • Emma Grey

      Baby steps in the right direction are better than standing still. I think as authors of our own life ‘stories’, there is no need to cram all of the plot and action into one chapter – that would make for a boring book!

      Best wishes with the blog – would you like to post the link and get a few more new readers? :-)

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      • faerygodmother

        Thanks Emma. You are right, a journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step and all that :-) It is frustrating though because as a single woman it is much easier to risk making mistakes or diving into uncertainty, I definetly took more chances with life while I was on my own. Families make things much harder though by no means impossible because of the weight of responsibilty.
        It’s been very interesting to read everyone’s stories here and inspirational to see just how differently we all cope with the choices we make.

        As for the blog, you are welcome to visit http://faerygodmotherfortunes.wordpress.com/ for everything you ever needed to know about fortune telling, plus a little bit more :-)

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        • Emma Grey

          Wonderful! I love the idea of fortune telling, and will check it out now! :-)

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