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birth plans birthzillas 380x399 Birthzillas: when its all about the birth, not the baby

 

 

 

 

by MIA FREEDMAN

“Did you have a plan for your placenta?” the woman asked me earnestly. She was pregnant. I was confused.

We’d only just met at a BBQ and as she repeated her question, I cocked my head quizically like a Labradoodle trying to understand a complex sentence. I’d never heard the words ‘plan’ and ‘placenta’ together and I was having trouble reconciling them.

“Huh? You mean did I, like, cook it or bury it in the garden?” She shook her head. “No, I mean when you gave birth did you have a plan for how your placenta would be delivered?”

Blink. “Um, out of my vagina? Does that count as a plan?”

More head shaking. The woman was growing impatient because she had a plan and she wanted to tell me about it. Her three page birth plan had “Delivering The Placenta” as its own subhead with half a dozen bullet points underneath.

I know this because she showed it to me on her phone while I tried not to stab myself with a sausage.

My personal view of birth plans is that they’re most useful when you set them on fire and use them to toast marshmallows. But there are some women who live for them: I call them Birthzillas because just like a Bridezilla focusses on the wedding not the marriage, The Birthzilla appears more interested in having a birth experience than a baby.

This term won’t win me any friends among those who believe passionately in a particular type of birth. Homebirth, freebirth, waterbirth, hypnotic birth, active birth, calm birth, silent birth……there’s a first-world menu of options for anyone who wishes to select from it, both inside and outside the hospital system.

Birthzillas usually speak about ‘empowerment’ and ‘control’ and use a lot of personal pronouns. Their own experience is invariably at the centre of their narrative even though they will always claim (and probably believe) that they’re acting selflessly for the good of their baby. This baffles me. It’s a bit like going to Paris and obsessing about the in-flight entertainment instead of, you know, PARIS.

Some women define themselves by the type of birth they had, even though their children are now in primary school. I antagonised this subculture a few years ago when I spoke out about freebirth (the practice of giving birth at home without any medical support not even a midwife) and called it reckless.

Many “birth advocates” came after me with pitchforks and autosignatures like:

“Anne-Marie, mother of Wyllow (happily freebirthed in 2002) and Jaydyn (proudly waterbirthed at home in 2004).”

It’s birth as identity and it’s odd.

The Birthzilla is such a first world creation. For millions of women, their birth plan is simply: “please let my baby and I survive”. However, among privileged women with access to safe and affordable care, I’ve noticed a growing fixation on the birth process.

For many, it’s about control. One of the most confronting things about pregnancy and birth is the unpredictability of it and women often believe they can regain control by planning. Babies, however, like to raise their middle finger at your plans. They come early, they come late, they get stuck, they get suddenly distressed or tired or tangled. I know you’ve made three playlists for the different stages of your labour but your baby doesn’t care.

tina fey bossypants1 380x553 Birthzillas: when its all about the birth, not the babyIn her memoir, Bossypants, the brilliant Tina Fey describes the birth of her first child like this: “Vaginal delivery, epidural, didn’t poop on the table”. Those three pertinent facts sum it up, pre-emptively answering the most common questions other women ask.

Men? They couldn’t care less. Never in your life will you hear a man urge a woman, “Please! Tell me more about the way you gave birth!”. Not even if she’s his wife.

While most women need little encouragement to launch into a detailed account of her birth from conception to the first time she has sex afterwards, men generally try to leave the room when the subject comes up. It’s just not that interesting to them. I don’t mean the part where they saw their baby for the first time. That’s mind-blowing. But the bits before that? Utterly insignificant compared to the lifetime of parenting that comes afterwards.

I recently heard a woman on the radio waxing lyrical about how her two homebirths “were the most incredible experiences of my life and I don’t know anyone who had a hospital birth and could say the same thing”. Me. I could. Three hospital births. Loved them all. And this is where I start to get tetchy.

Let me state for the record: I’m a fan of doctors. Love them. Especially obstetricians. If I could give birth in a stadium full of people in white coats with letters after their names I would do a happy jig. What? You’re a doctor of French literature? Mathematics? Oh well, come on down! The more qualifications nearby, the better.

But in the maddening world of competitive mothering, some women see their birth experience as a platform for smugness and superiority. A badge of maternal honour. The game of My Birth Was Better Than Yours is an ugly, destructive one. And hugely risky if it puts anything above the physical welfare of a baby.

So yes, I could bang on and on about my birth experiences. But I’d prefer to tell you about my kids.

UPDATE 6pm Sunday 17 June: Having read most of the comments and watch the debate unfold over the day, I just wanted to clarify four things.

1. Being a feminist does not – to me – mean agreeing with every decision made and every opinion held by everyone who happens to have a vagina. I will always be authentic and honest about my own opinions and this column is an example of that. Some seem to believe it’s my ‘duty’ to support all women regardless of their choices or behaviour. I’m afraid that’s not going to happen. I am one person with one opinion. I don’t claim to speak on behalf of anyone else. There are hundreds of contributors to Mamamia and thousands of comments that reflect a hugely diverse range of opinions which is as it should be.

2. I am not suggesting making a birth plan is reckless or even stupid. I’m not suggesting it’s a good idea to walk into your birth knowing nothing. Many commenters below have spoken about ‘birth preferences’ which I think is sensible. But becoming too fixated on the way you give birth is, in my opinion, a misplaced priority and ultimately often futile. And I’ve seen sooooo many women shocked, bewildered, disappointed and even ashamed that their birth did not go according to their plan. Being aware that it could all go to hell is an important part of preparing for the very unpredictable experience of giving birth.

3. There is a broad spectrum of Birthzilla behaviour. Some of it – making detailed plans for your placenta or compiling endless playlists for your ipod – is harmless enough. Trivial even. You want a water birth in a birth centre? Why not. More insidious are the Birthzillas who derive status and superiority from the way they give birth. They can be almost passive aggressive about it. And who says giving birth at home or without drugs is somehow ‘better’ or ‘more meaningful’ than giving birth via c-section or with an epidural or with forceps?

4. At the extreme end of the Birthzilla spectrum are those women who put their birth experience above the health and wellbeing of their baby. And yes it happens. In fact the South Australian coronor recently found that three babies who died during homebirths would have certainly survived had they been born in hospitals. You can read more about that here. In each case, their mothers knew the pregnancies were high risk and chose to give birth at home without medical support anyway. Their babies died. And for what? That is where Birthzilla behaviour can actually be a matter of life and death.

 

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  1. brie

    These days you have to be careful when the subject of birth comes up not to mention the words natural or medication free or you could well be turfed out of your mothers group.
    Women who have opted for pain medications get angry….really angry.
    I don’t care how many meds you had but apparently my lack of them offends!!

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  2. Liz

    I found this confronting to read, as by your definition, I’m a Birthzilla, and yet I’ve never put my birth experiences in other people’s faces, nor do I brag about it. I certainly didn’t put my birth plan ahead of the safety of my children either. I just did what my body, my mind, my hormones and my babies allowed me to do. I really don’t see what the big deal is – it’s an individual’s choice to birth as they want and whatever the outcomes, they need to live with their experience and the results. I find articles like this one unnecessarily inflammatory.

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  3. lynsey jones

    Mia you present terribly in this article. There seems a to be a real lack of compassion toward other women, that does fit with the stereotype of your profession as a fashion editor holds.

    Perhaps you could look into the psychology of pregnancy and the role that hormones play in that. You know ‘nesting’ is very real in mammals. Planning and preparing for labour is a natural part of the nesting process.

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  4. Anonymous

    I am a person who had ‘do not turn epidural off’ in my birth plan. I also did not mind if forceps or any other instrument needed to be used. When i told other women about my plans, they were very quick to tell me about their concerns with my lack of ‘naturalness’ in my birth plans. I really dont care how a woman gives birth as long as everyone is healthy, but i was so shocked at how everyone had an opinion about my medicated birth.

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  5. Umph

    “Passive-aggressive” judgment from mothers who birth differently? Code for “I’m so threatened that I’m seeing things that aren’t really there”. ‘Birthzillas’ don’t do it for status or experience, that’s just your prejudice showing. It never occurred to you that Crazymom had a placenta plan because she became aware of benefits in handling it a particular way. That is judgy and closed-minded. If she creeped you out, just smile and back away. No need to get on your soap box about how everyone who is different doesn’t value the baby.

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  6. Fran

    I love this article. 40 weeks and 6 days pregnant at the moment. My birth plan is to have a baby, hopefully soon, hopefully by going into labour myself, but if not, I’m looking forward to my induction. Yes, it might hurt more, yes I could end up with more intervention, but guess what? One way or another I’ll end up with a gorgeous baby girl. That’s the plan, anyway. Thanks Mia for giving me a laugh in the middle of my long “post due date” wait for this bub.

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  7. Sumie

    I LOVED this article! I keep hearing about birth plan birth plan birth plan…This was such a refreshing read!!!

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  8. kmgg

    My first plan was to see how it goes and trust my carers, turns out that I shouldn’t have just done that and I should have learnt more about interventions and what the drugs used actually do to you and your baby.

    My first birth experience affected me and my baby for more than ‘just’ one day. She was injured and I was injured. I also believe the birth is what sent me into pnd, which then affected my baby because she didn’t get the loving happy mother she deserved.

    So yes I am obsessed with my birth plan and what things I want happen to me while I give birth to my second child.

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  9. L&D Nurse

    I LOVE this article!!! As a L&D nurse yes this is hilarious, the problem with birth plans is KNOWLEDGE. 98% of women who come in with a “birthplan” have looked it up on line and “checked” boxes off on a pre-printed sheet, with no knowledge of anything, just what they read in 1 article or what their friends have told them they should do. I have no problem with you having a birthplan, but PLEASE, PLEASE be realistic in that plan and realize YOU have NO CONTROL on how your body or baby will respond to the labor process. Most doctors don’t just do C/S because they want to, usually there is a need. If you don’t want an epidural, fine, but realize it’s going to hurt like hell and you will feel like your vagina/rectum is being ripped open and your stomach is being stabbed, so with that in mind, keep yourself under control and not tortuing the whole unit by screaming like a wild boar, it HURTS, it’s the “natural” labor that you wanted right??? My opinion on the birthplan thing is keep an open mind, I will again remind you that you have NO control over the situation. If you get an epidural or end up with a C/S it doesn’t make you any less of a mother or a better person. Just do what you feel is right for you and your baby.
    P.S.- You don’t get a metal or any special recognition for going what you consider “natural”

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    • Faybian

      Enough with the dramatics. You should’ve just stuck with “it will hurt like hell”.
      Whats with the keep yourself under control bit too? I don’t particularly think screaming is helpful in labour, but we’re not all scientologists you know.
      The fact that there is a difference between the Caesarian rate in public and private hospitals in Qld (31% and 55% respectively) would suggest that sometimes they are done unnecessarily.

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  11. Wip

    PS. Oh, and if medical intervention “saves” babies, then why does the US, with virtually no women giving birth at home and a high intervention rate, have such bad maternal and infant mortality rates compared with, say, the Netherlands, where 30% of women give birth at home?

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    • Spaztikjane

      The statistics from the Netherlands that everyone loves to quote are infant mortality rates, which covers 1 month to 1 year of age. Unfortunately, that has little or nothing to do with their materno-fetal morbidity and mortality rates, which are incredibly high. I’m not opposed to home births, non-medicated births, etc. by any means. I’m just saying, don’t use that as your basis why hospitals are all evil.

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    • NotTheBoss

      I realise this is an old post, but to point out: the Netherlands also has great stats because it is a very small, centralised country. If critical medical assistance is required, it can get there very quickly. The U.S. also has some severe problems with their medical system.

      Careful with stats. They are not to be used naively.

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  12. Wip

    I wonder if you’d have the same love of doctors if you were giving birth in the 1950s. Strapped to a table, and then have your baby taken away afterwards to be given back to you ever 4 hours. Doesn’t sound so nice? BIRTHZILLA!

    Maybe if doctors didn’t have such a bad reputation for some people, and based what they did on evidence instead of just being handy for them (eg. routine episiotomies), more people would trust them just as you blindly do.

    My brain didn’t fall out just because I got knocked up!

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  13. Sarah

    Your birthzilla article is the most opinionated, and uninformed journalism I have every read. Can you not consider the birth plan as a means of providing informed consent and communicating in a stressful time with health care professionals. They facilitate research and education on the part of the mother. I by no means see a birth plan as the woman putting her needs before her baby. If you researched the statistics you see the overly high caeser rates, intervention rates, high PND rates, and even post traumatic stress as a result of highly medicalised birth, surely your views would be more objective. The wishes on birth plans are a loose guideline, no doubt most women will adapt if there baby is at risk. Sure a small number of women will refuse certain treatments, however they are the minority. Don’t marginalise women for demanding quality health care, it is these demands that make health services more suited to the public.
    As a primary health care measure physiological birth has the best outcome for the long term wellness of both mother and baby, women are not wrong in trying to achieve this! I could go on but really I urge you to look into the clinical statistics and outcomes of high intervention rates, you will find a large number are not necessary and put the mother and baby at greater risk. You hold a position of influence, at least use it for good and not to confuse women who are already confused with this kind of uninformed journalism. Please!
    Mothering is hard and unpredictable, we all need the best start we can get. Women need to stop putting each other down and be supportive even if our opinions are different. While I respect that you do not like the “Birthplan” idea it doesn’t mean that someone who does is some sort of mythical birth-monster :)
    Cheers
    I had to put in my 2 cents

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  14. Grrrrr

    Oh god, why did I read this? Mia Friedman makes me want to throw things – preferably in her direction. Your perspective seems to be largely dictated by the need to appear ‘funny’. But you’re not funny. Your negativity is not particularly clever. It’s boring. And pointless. And contributes nothing positive to the world. Birthzilla? How about cruella. You like putting labels on people. Try wearing that one. How do you like them apples?

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  15. Kate

    I had the whole shebang of ‘interventions’ for the birth on my twins. Induced, epidural, forceps, vontuse (sp)…..

    I found an obstetrician (Wendy Hawke) who I trusted and I let her knowledge, experience and wisdom guide me to the ultimate desired outcome, two healthy babies.

    It’s only one day and really in the scheme of things rather insignificant compared to raising kids. It’s a shame some focus on such a small part of the experience of parenthood.

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  16. CW

    I am currently sitting in hospital after my second dose of gel,has been administered. Did I want an induction – no, do I feel like my body has failed me yes I so. But I don’t know why! I have nurtured for,9 and a bit months and incredibly healthy and successful pregnancy but I feel like I have failed because I am it going to have a natural birth. And it’s not anyone’s fault but mine because I have read to much into the whole birthing process. For me right now reading Mia’s article makes me feel better. Yes we are fortunate to have choice and lucky to have the ability to dictate a birth plan but can we please do away with the stigma associated with using intervention or doing things the old fashioned way because all it does is put more pressure on us as women that really we don’t need. Choice is fantastic but the best outcome for us all is a healthy new born baby.

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  17. This Is Stupid

    In fact the South Australian coronor recently found that three babies who died during homebirths would have certainly survived had they been born in hospitals.

    ^^
    Do you know how many babies have died in a hospital who would have lived if they were birthed at home? Do you think that doesn’t happen? Do honestly believe medical intervention don’t kill babies? Writing a comment like this, and not countering it with how many babies die in the hospital, shows you’re simply pushing your own agenda which is clearly being driven by your own defensiveness and insecurity. FFS, who’s the smug one here? Are you for real?

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    • You are scary!

      And right there with that comment, you proved the authors point perfectly.

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    • sharoncello

      Please enlighten us “This Is Stupid” – how many??

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  18. cate

    A woman who has an epidural is twice as likely to need assistance pushing out her baby – and end up with an instrumental birth – forceps and vacuum extraction.

    Neither of which are pleasant for mum or baby and both have significant risks for the baby including much higher risk of death from brain haemorrhage.

    Why don’t you write an article about that instead of pushing epidurals on unsuspecting women who you are encouraging to be uninformed and ignorant because it’s not cool to ask questions about your health care according to you.

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    • Anonymous

      Yes! I had an epidural and hated it, I hated not feeling in control of my own body any more, I hated the uncontrollable farting, the shaking all over which I now know is a common reaction to epidurals, I hated having to have a catheter. And I ended up with a forceps birth and my poor son came out with bruises and dents all over his head. I just had one because it seemed to be the done thing, everyone told me to get one, I had no idea that it would increase my risk of needing intervention, nobody told me that. For my second baby I had no epidural and it was a way, way better experience.

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  19. Gooey

    Well, I guess you just made a whole heap of women who laid on their back and made no decisions about the birth of their babies, leaving it up to the “professionals”, feel a whole heap better about themselves! Because unfortunately, that’s where the majority of birthing mothers end up these days due to the busy schedules of the hospital (both ob’s and midwives).

    How can you possibly sit there and justify methods that are causing increases in PND and suicide? You’ve completely missed a point about giving a mother the right to choose how she births her baby….no, not just for her own selfish reasons (because I would actually very sincerely doubt that selfishness comes into it in most cases) …but giving her a much higher possibility of a birthing outcome that not only delivers her baby into a calm and quiet environment, but allows her to have a birthing experience that will ready her for all of those challenges that becoming a new mother provides, from the get-go.

    This article really just pushes any advances we have made in freedom of choice for pregnant women so far backwards. It’s such a shame that you think this way Mia. I honestly thought you were better than this.

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  20. Wise one

    I’ve got one word for you Mia – therapy.

    I hope you are getting some.

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  21. Lisa

    The birth wars are such a western world whine. I’m with you Mia. There are women across the third world world who would give their right arm for the access to medical care we take for granted. Surely a healthy baby and mum is everyone’s ultimate aim. And I don’t think hard working doctors and nurses should be demonized because a plan was not followed to the letter. Birth by definition is unpredictable, quite the preparation for parenthood actually!

    I’ve given birth twice, once with epidural pain relief and once there was not time for anything so quite to my horror I gave birth 10 minutes after arriving in delivery. The 2nd one I admit was easier to recover from. Did it matter not really, I love both boys as much as ever and I really don’t think it matters to anyone including myself how they were born, but that they are here and they are mine. As a prem baby born at 29 weeks I have some appreciation of the just get here safely mentality. And I admit I was lucky in both deliveries. My mum had two cs under general anaesthetic and I don’t think she ever felt deprived.

    It’s a day maybe two in a lifetime of parenting. Go in with some education and an open mind. Get thru it and get on with.

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    • Donsie

      I agree with every word you have written. Well said!

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    • Kel

      I agree with you also. Be educated on what the possibilities are and go in with an open mind. I completely trusted that my obstetrician was going to get my baby out the safest way possible. I have a friend who’s birth HAD to go to plan and it didn’t. She has issues about it now.

      After having two miscarriages myself I think that it put things into perspective, how my baby came into the world really didn’t matter. As long as he was healthy that’s all that mattered to me.

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  22. NewMum

    Mia thank you for writing this article.

    I recently had my first child and had what would be described as a traumatic but natural birth. I had a basic birth plan and a lot of it went out the window during the delivery. Since then, I have felt disappointed and even ashamed that my body ‘failed’ me because I wasn’t able to achieve the amazing birth or beautiful bonding experience that I had envisaged. It’s such a strange concept to deal with and I have no idea why I would feel that because at the end of the day I lived and brought home a happy and healthy baby girl. Where is the failure there?

    I suppose that labour and birth is such an intense experience that sometimes it becomes something we meld into our identity. It can be something that makes you feel strong or represents aspects of your character that you want to embrace. I felt like I wanted to do that, to a degree, but couldn’t reconcile my birth experience with my sense of self. Your article highlighted a niggling thought I’d had – I don’t have to! My identity is less about the birth and more about the baby who is now an enduring feature of my life.

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  23. Dad has a Say, Too

    I guess it’s little wonder there are no comments from men on this particular subject. God knows not one of us would want our heads bitten off.
    I was present through the entire birth process of all three of my children. What involment I could offer, beyond being part of the cheering squad or ducking when things were thrown, was encouraged by the hospital staff.
    The Plan pretty much was try to have a baby while shutting up and listening to the choices offered at the appropriate times. Pregnancy books had been read, both clinical and comical, so all choices offered were thoroughly understood by the mum to be and, god help me, the dad as well.
    While the first birth was normal, within wide parameters, two hours after our baby was delivered, with everyone happy, chatting and taking photos my wife began to bleed uncontrollably. Her doctor was long gone and stuck in Saturday morning sport traffic, and luckily another obstetrician stepped in the take over. We know full well that if this was a home birth situation, especially so long after a successful birth, we would not have been able to access medical attention in time to save her.
    Parents to be should be informed of the choices available and understand what can and could happen and prepare for the need of medical intervention in an emergency situation.

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  24. chanel prestidge

    thanks so much for this article. as a paediatrician and mother of 2 healthy children, both vaginal deliveries one with and one without an epidural, one with and one without a doctor in attendance (the second came too fast) both delivered in hospital (the first stay for 3 days, the second stay for 6 hours)… i whole heartedly agree with you and feel i was reading something i might have written!! birth cannot be planned, it is unpredictable. women should be educated about the possibilities and their options so they can make informed and educated decisions as events unfold. the majority of women i know with birth plans and a heavy focus on the birth process ended up with more intervention and disappointment. sad to be disappointed when you have a miraculous outcome of healthy mum and baby, something many women in the developing world would only dream of.

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  25. FFS

    FFS, it’s a God damned FACT that a natural birth is the IDEAL outcome for a pregnant woman in NORMAL circumstances.

    Same to be said about breastfeeding.

    Makes me sick that all you women trying to encourage birth intervention, bottle-feeding etc to make yourselves feel better.

    There are CLEARLY better choices than others.

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    • Emily

      AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

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    • Rachel

      Umm…this article didn’t encourage intervention or bottle-feeding at all.

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    • Why?

      Naturalistic fallacy much? Why on earth is something better because it is natural?

      As for the bottle feeding comment – irrelevant.

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      • Kel

        Well said ‘Why?’

        Not sure what the bottle feeding dig was all about? Breastfeeding is bloody hard and I completely understand why some women give it in. I have persisted but I have wanted to give in on many occasions. I was bottle fed as a baby, nothing wrong with me.

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  26. clarinette

    Lol. my second birth plan (in the netherlands ) was written mainly in my head and included ” do not die” ; “do not kill any nurse”; try not to bite people “. I failed on that last one but I don’t regret it. As panick striked with my first contractions ; due to my knowledge of the lack of humanity of dutch hospitals , I quickly added “try to look relaxed and don’t let anybody see you’re in labour , pretend you just peed your pants and maybe they won’t drag you to the hospital and you can just have the baby silently in a corner or something “; but that was panick speaking . This part failed too. I’m so glad I don’t have to ever go through this again that the mere thought of “I will never give birth again ” is enough to brighten my day when I’m down, so if people want to have their placentas put on their face for karma or whatever , fine by me!! as long as it’s not me giving birth , do what you want :D

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  27. b

    harijake, your point is precisly why it is sickening that 90% of the Australian women who choose through their disempowerment and lack of awareness or goal setting (call it a plan) to be treated as though they are part of the 10% who really need medical intervention, need to seriously take a look at what could be achieved if they weren’t sucked into the fear of birth sydrome to spend anywhere between 3-10k on medicalised birth. What if a small portion of the money, medical resources and qualified practitioners was shifted to solving real health problems in this country let alone our near neighbours. Normal birth does not require an epidural or scheduled c-section, or even a doctor – if more women tried with support of others to achieve normal birth regardless of location maybe they would find out why those who have feel so complled to share the good news – its another verison of tall poppy syndrome coming from Mai and its got us all clicking on her page because she is sooo provokative – well maybe some women who are yet to birth might be intriged that my first birth at 37yo was 7hr nothing but panadol in hospital so it seemed I didn’t need to go next time to use up a room – my planned home birth was 1.5hrs and not an annomoly – no drugs or intervention mean quicker birth and feeling good sooner when will that be a goal of women who need to care for an infant. Being home recovered the next day and fully participating in family lfe including toddler care is not selfish its normal birth all over the world. My baby slept 10hrs a night from 2wks – call me smug or ask me to share my tips, up to you! Have a look on the WHO site! our induction and csection rates are way too high – if women in developing countries don’t take charge of their choices this won’t change.

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  28. harijake

    Namaste & Tashi Delek Mia, I’m not sure if this is the right thread for this, but I have had it to the eye teeth full. I’ve recently returned from working in India and am horrified by the current amount of self-absorbtion displayed by many “it’s all about ME!” modern parents. It’s not just the ‘birth plan brigade’, it’s the breast vs bottle brigade, the work vs SAHM set, the natural birth vs caesarian brigade. These people don’t realise how damn well lucky they are to have their choices. I witness and hear these women smuggly pick, pick, pick at each other and their choices. Seriously people – WHO CARES AS LONG AS BOTH MOTHER AND CHILD ARE HEALTHY AND HAPPY. I wish I could give many of these ‘breeders’ (I hate that word but understand why it’s used to differentiate them from parents) give these women a reality slap and take them to some of the areas in India, where I was teaching. The women there, more often than not, HAVE NO CHOICE in the wheres and hows of birthing, and yet they are just grateful to have a healthy child. I’d like to see many Australian mothers cope over there. There’s no such thing as clean drinking water from the tap. Some areas you have to carry a day’s worth of water back to the village. Whilst pregnant. In many rural areas, the girl child isn’t educated if there is no free education near-by. Forget refridgeration, microwaves, washing machines, reliable transport, Medicare. Sometimes an OB/GYN is 5 – 8 hours away. Yet these women love their children more than anything – they don’t care about birth plans, or how their child is delivered as long as they have a healthy happy child and the mother is safe & well too. I personally witnessed a farmer commit suicide by drinking battery acid because he couldn’t afford the IR 4227 (Indian Rupee) to pay a visiting doctor. Do you know how much 4227 Rupee is? That’s $70 Australian dollars. $70. He killed himself out of a tragic mix of pride and shame. Maybe I’m struggling from shock, or reverse culture shock. But that image will haunt me for the rest of this life and the next. Why did he have another child? Because there is so much mis-information about birth control, or no information about birth control, or sex education, in parts of the sub-continent. Particularly poorer areas, or amongst the “children of God” – the Caste which used to be known as the ‘Untouchables’. While Ms Tiffany and Ms Bethany in Australia are bickering over their smug choices and demanding birthing plans containing air-conditioned breezes coupled with a hint sage and lavender, listening to the dulcet tones of panda bears crying in the rainforest on their “birthing mood music of choice”, or contemplating sending their placentas off to be bronzed and framed for display on the wall, or complaining about how nobody respects their choices, women and children – and extended families – in parts of the world have to deal with very, very basics regarding the hand that life has dealt them in referencing to maternity issues. No frills. No birthing plan. Actually I’m wrong. They do have a birthing plan. And that they, and their baby, survive and recover from the birthing process. God willing. Namaste. That’s all.

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    • Lisa

      Well said Harijake. It’s sickening to hear these western world women carrying on like this. They should just be grateful that we have these choices. I’m with Mia too – most women I come across seem to be more focused on the birth plan and all its other bells and whistles. Shouldn’t the end goal to be a healthy baby? As for these women going on about choosing how they birth and and empowerment etc, they’re being selfish because it’s all about what they want. It really shouldn’t f!@#g matter whether they have a natural birth or caesar so long as the baby is born healthy.

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    • Eleni

      That same reasoning would mean that just because many people in India and other poorer countries have poor nutrition, means we shouldnt press for good nutrition here in Australia… By all means be thankful for what we have, but that doesn’t mean we should stop trying to improve and educate ourselves!

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  29. Sylvia

    I have felt this way for a long time. Thank you Mia for putting this so eloquently. I do think that some women concentrate more on how they will give birth rather than on whether their baby is healthy. Too often, I’m asked ‘how’ I gave birth not about my children. It’s worn like a badge. To me, going through hours of labour on your own with no medical help does not make you more of a woman or more of a mother. GIve me the drugs, I say….and keep ‘em coming!!

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  30. Marge

    **“No, I mean when you gave birth did you have a plan for how your placenta would be delivered?”**

    Dear Mia,

    I am most likely repeating another commenter, but the above question is a valid one.

    Currently *active management of the third stage* ie. birthing the placenta is accomplished by:

    1)immediate cord clamping
    2)oxytocin injection
    3)controlled traction on the cord-or pulling the placenta out by the cord.

    Women are rightly concerned with this protocol for some of the following reasons.

    1)Delayed cord clamping insures that the infant has a proper blood volume after birth.
    2)Oxytocin injections can lead to hemorrhage.
    3)Pulling out the placenta using the cord as a rope can also cause a multitude of medical problems not confined to hemorrhage and pieces of retained placenta.

    For a more in depth understanding you might want to check out the World Health Organizations Care in a Normal Birth guidelines and new research into the benefits of delaying clamping and cutting the umbilical cord.

    This woman’s question to you was health related and is one every pregnant woman needs to be asking. There was no need to take her to task.

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    • Siobhan

      Well-put, Marge. I requested a physiological third stage for the births of both my sons for all the reasons you outline above, and more. It’s a reasonable and sensible request, and one that can have many benefits for both mother and baby.

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    • Erikaat

      Thank you! This is a great, well informed response!

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    • Anonymous

      Oxytocin injections cannot lead to hemmorhage. they are given to prevent hemmorhage.

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  31. Emma Knapp

    Mia,
    I find your writing on this topic to be, not only ill informed, but incendiary, condescending and anti feminist to women, but then look how many people have responded – whatever sells right?.

    In suggesting that women who care about their birth experience are selfish you have blindly grouped a huge number of women together and branded them highly inaccurately, painting them as the media loves to as hairy hippies looking for the light. The reality is Mia, that women who care about their choices in pregnancy, labour, birth and parenting have been shown to be middle to upper class, well educated women. Not unlike yourself really, excepting being well read and well informed.

    As a midwife, I doubt you have ever seen the gleam, the special spark in a woman’s eye when she has given birth naturally. Nor have you ever heard the joyful cry of “I did it” as a woman cuddles her baby to her chest for the first time. She has just gone to Everest and back under her own steam, it was hard, she didn’t think she could do it, but she did. Just because you have never climbed Everest Mia does not give you the right to demonise those who have or want to. Yes, there is a difference in so many ways, between natural birth and the epidural/forceps birth, evidenced in no greater way than by infant behaviour following the birth, something I’m sure you researched in preparation for this article. The mothers act and recover very differently as well. Those who were satisfied with their experiences mother more intuitively and are more responsive to their babies, again, I’m sure you’ve researched that thoroughly. I agree with you on one point, that maternal satisfaction is key. But does a woman who wants a normal, active birth have less of a right to this than you do? Your birth invariably costs the system more, requires more intervention down the line and has poorer outcomes for both mother and baby.

    I recently heard a french “feminist” on the radio who had some similar things to say as yourself. She argues that women choosing to use cloth nappies and have natural birth have regressed the feminist cause. I say to both of you, isn’t the heart of the feminist debate about choice? The biggest thing to regress the feminist cause is loss of choice and women deriding each other like you have done in this blog. I see loss of choice and autonomy to a shocking degree every day in maternity care and at times it is tantamount to abuse. But according to you women should accept this and not exercise choice? Which leads to the purpose of a birth plan, which is to exercise choice in advance. Choice in advance is no less of a choice. If a woman was attending a hospital where enemas, shaves and large episiotomies were still the norm, does she not have the right to refuse those things? If you answer yes, then the difference between doing it at the time and in advance via a birth plan are insignificant.

    I really take exception to your statement that women who care about their birth are selfish and are not thinking about the baby. To separate mother and baby like this when women are still pregnant is ridiculous, they are still very much a dyad and actually remain so until at least the third month post partum (if not forever!). Women who choose natural birth are in a sense sacrificing their own comfort, their fears, their hopes and their every literal threshold for the good of their baby. Science has repeatedly shown and will continue to, that infants born to unmedicated mothers thrive in a number of key areas (respiratory function, breastfeeding, awareness, sleep wake cycles to name a few) more than those born to medicated mothers. To say that a woman who wants a natural birth does not care about her baby is like saying a marathon runner does not care about the finish line. One task is being performed to give rise to the other, they are inseparable.

    Please try to avoid deriding women for making choices that are different to yours in the future. Defend your opinion until the cows come home, but when you put it into the public arena as you do, you only serve to cause more derision and infighting among women. Again though, whatever sells right. I guess that’s why your the journalist and I’m the midwife.

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    • Mia

      Hi Emma,
      Thanks for your comment. You make some interesting points. One that I must correct you on, however, is that I wrote this article to ‘sell’ anything.
      It’s because I feel very strongly about this topic – as do you.
      By all means disagree with what I have written but you’re wrong in questioning its authenticity or casting aspersions on my motivation for writing it.

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      • Emma Knapp

        Okay Mia, let’s pretend for a moment that more readers on your blog doesn’t mean more money in advertising. Nor do more readers of your contributions to the telegraph sell more newspapers. If your motives are purely altruistic as you claim this seems incongruous with the controversial (yet disturbingly conservative) and judgemental views you have put forward. I think I would sleep better at night trusting this style of writing and the ideas contained within are designed to both incite and to sell something, rather than the alternative – that you actually feel or believe them to be true.

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        • Jacqueline

          You undermine your own arguments when you fail to take on board Mia’s clarification. Don’t be so arrogant as to think that your opinion is the only ‘right’ one. Healthy debate educates. Your refusal to take Mia at her word is rude.

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          • Emma Knapp

            Firstly, I’m sure Mia can defend herself Jacqueline. My refusal to accept her altrustic motives is not rude, I just don’t have to swallow it – there is a difference. I think if she cares as much as she claims, she would have attempted to represent both sides, which is possible even in an opinion piece.

            Having read popularist, sensationalist pieces on the subject of homebirth, natural birth and newly under fire, attachment parenting for a long time, I retain a healthy skepticism of the Murdoch dominated Australian media landscape. This is neither rude, arrogant, nor does it undermine what I’ve said, it’s a sad reality. Remember, don’t believe everything you see on telly or read in the paper!

            I work with women and health care professionals everyday who have a huge variety of opinions on this matter and I respect and support them all wholeheartedly, I have never believed mine is the only one. Which is perhaps why I find the intolerance contained in this piece so unsettling. However, people with a hell of a lot more knowledge than the author would never dare to suggest some of the things she has.

            She thinks she is calling a spade a spade and so do I. As you said, healthy debate educates. You can’t honestly write a piece like this (my god even the title is offensive!) and not expect and frankly deserve some flak for it!! But I guess that’s my rudeness and arrogance showing. Again.

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            • Jacqueline

              I am not commenting on your opinion about birthing or Mia’s – but on your response to Mia saying she didn’t write the article to ‘sell’ newspapers/attract advertising, etc. Your inability to believe that she wrote what she believes – full stop – is baffling. I question opinion makers who don’t disclose vested interests – but I don’t believe Mia is hiding a secret payment made by ‘Doctors only dot com’.

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            • Emma Knapp

              Be baffled, amazed, stupefied if you have to. It’s called the business of self promotion and sensationalism is the trump card. If that’s not a vested interest, I don’t know what is. Read between the lines. I never said anything about doctors, although the website you mentioned sounds like it’s worth a look. Or is that my naivete showing now?

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    • Kate

      Emma Knapp, you’re awesome. I want to be as clever as you when I grow up :)

      Thank you for expressing so articulately exactly what I think about most of Mia’s writing. I’m more and more stunned at the extent of the conservatism and judgment in her articles as time goes by.

      And to think I used to be one of her biggest fans.

      We all have our illusions shattered at some time I suppose.

      C’est la vie…

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  32. Kristen

    FINALLY! I’m so glad a smart educated woman has spoken out about this! My dad is a GP and delivers many babies. It is one of his favourite things to do. He unfortunately sees the sad side too when there are complications and a baby doesn’t make it although in his 30+ years of experience it is uncommon in a hospital. He gets so upset that people still do home births because they want to ‘experience’ labour in its most natural form. These people do not know the risks involved in home births and the statistics of infants fatality and sometimes the mother’s as well. It angers me to see how smart strong women choose to do something that actually is not in their babies best interests but in their own. Why would you want to have any risk at all when bringing a baby into this world. Why would you not want a trained GP to deliver your baby in a hospital with all the medical equipment that can assist if something goes wrong rather than a midwife who has limited expertise in someones home. I’m not trying to have a go at midwives, they do a wonderful job, but I know I would prefer someone who has the most medical training and knowlege possible. I would want the best so my baby can come into this world in the safest possible way. Look at how many infant deaths there were before we had hospitals and medical equipment and expertise. I bet they wish they could’ve had the opportunity to have their baby in a hospital. Sorry to rant but this is something I am passionate about and wish people were better educated in it so there were unnecessary infant deaths!

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    • Anonymous

      When birthing in hospitals first became the norm infant and maternal mortality sky-rocketed. Many, many women and babies died from ‘child bed fever’. It is only relatively recently that hospitals have become the safest option.

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      • Anonymous

        Many women died because doctors weren’t washing thier hands. These days, that happens…in fact some doctors are known to wash their hands…once twice or even after each operation …

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        • Sigh

          Try following a doctor during ward rounds and see how often he/she washes his/her hands. They often have to be guided over to the hand basin by the nurse doing the rounds with them.

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  33. j

    I wasn’t going to comment on this article but it has been weighing on my mind a little bit.

    I have the same perspective as Mia regarding birth plans. For me I would do anything to make sure that my baby was delivered safely. For me that means being in a hospital near doctors and life saving equipment.

    I had a late miscarriage with my first preganacy at 22 weeks. When your baby dies at this stage it means that you still have to go through labour to deliever your baby. Then afterwards you leave the hospital with empty hands. I can remember standing in the foyer waiting for my husband to get the car and seeing the happy parents with their newborn babies in their arms. It was the worst feeling in the word.

    So with my second pregnancy, my birth plan was “I want to leave the hospital with a healthy baby”. I had no expectations of how I wanted my birth to be. I actually think this lack of expectations helped me to have a natural drug free birth. My expectation was whatever it takes to get a healthy baby.

    I know that there are lots of homebirths where everything goes to plan and babies are delivered happily and healthily. But I would never forgive myself if something went wrong and my baby died and I had been able to prevent it. So homebirths are definitely not for me.

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  34. Highcar

    My ‘obsession’ with a natural birth was born from a fear of control over the decisions of my birth being taken away from me when I was diagnosed with high blood pressure. I believe I was being responsible when I studied extensively on the most healthy delivery options for my baby and my belief that medical intervention that started with induction was a slippery slope to needing an epidural, difficult delivery and possible c section was based on scientific evidence, not some misguided need for a birth experience. Why wouldn’t I try to have the least traumatic birth for my baby by having a birth plan and preparing myself for what is ultimately a phsychological as well physiological process? Of course it didn’t go to plan ( not the first time at least) but I was prepared and I did have natural births both times which I am sure I wouldn’t have had I not been a ‘birhtzilla’ or had friends who had natural births. I feel very proud of my achievement and will take on anyone who would imply that my preparations were irrelevant. Do I judge anyone for their decisions around their birth? Absolutely not!! Even with the best preparations things don’t go to plan. I do believe however that the chances of things going well are going to be much higher with a bit of preparation and i will therefore share my opinion if it is sought. And the more positive natural birth stories that are out there the better. New mums-to-be hear enough of the horror stories already. Fear is the enemy of a positive birth!!

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  35. pref

    Just want to add that most women know that a ‘birth plan’ is merely a list of ‘birth preferences’ that outlines what path you would prefer to go down if options arise- ie. episiotomy or try without one, dad cuts the cord or Ob cuts the cord etc. Every nurse/doc/ob that came in to the room when i was in labour actually asked to see my list of preferences without any prompting from me!
    Writing down a few preferences is actually encouraged by most health professionals as thinking ahead about some of the options that may pop up can help mothers cope better with the very full-on experience that birth is.

    so yeah, i feel that only a small % of women actually believe that their birth ‘plan’ is anything more than a list of preferences that will speak for them if they aren’t able to concoct an eloquent explanation of their need for an epidural mid contraction :)

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  36. Anonymous

    What if the lady you met at the barbecue read this article and recognised you were writing about her? That doesn’t really adhere to your reinforced “dinner party” etiquette; you’re criticising (in a patronising manner) what is a very personal subject for many. I mean, I’m sure she knew who you were. Someone would have told her. She probably looked up your blog and read this and is now feeling very stupid, sad and alone.

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    • Mia

      Hi Anonymous – details were changed so that if she ever does read it, she won’t know it was her.
      My aim is never to humiliate, only to illustrate.

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  37. nanoo

    Loved “Birthzillas”. Very few of these mothers have plans for their baby – just themselves. The decision on the court case of home birthing advocate Janet Wolfe is being handed down in court this Thursday. Unfortunately babies have no rights until they are born so the little one in question had no chance. On the Joyous Birth website part of their philosophy is quote “The safest and most responsible birth is one where the mother knows that she needs no one present to birth her baby other than herself.” I feel so angry that we actually have people like this around in society today.

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  38. Heather

    I haven’t read all of these posts, so this has probably all been said before, but I would like to make two points: 1) as natural birth is so marginalised in this country women have to be pretty determined and vocal in their support of it and also in order to commit to it – I think pop-psychology calls this “positive self-talk”. Really important if you are planning a natural birth to feel good and determined about the decision. If you go into birth fearful you have a pretty low chance of it going well, I think. 2) birth actually works *better* when women feel positive and unafraid.

    Given that the medical profession with its – probably entirely understandable – focus on risk, tends more to put the fear into women about things that can go wrong, it is hard to go through the medicalised process of birthing without having all the relaxed, happy, positive hormones or whatnot interfered with. For this reason, I felt homebirth with two experienced, qualified midwives, close to a hospital in case of unforeseens, was the safest option for me. I am sure others would feel safer in a hospital and it is for the hospitals to try to help women feel safe and protected as well as just supplying the hardcore medical expertise and equipment. I have to say this is a challenge that Victorian hospitals are not really rising to.

    What upsets me a lot is that my responsible and safe choice – that gave me a healthy, unmedicated, untampered-with baby, and yes, a feeling of immense satisfaction and achievement – will be illegal if/when I next become pregnant.

    I almost feel there is an element of envy in this relentless criticism of women who homebirth. I don’t find it particularly feminist at all to criticise women who – in a culture that so often makes us feel wrong about our bodies – voice positive messages of empowerment about the female body and about birth. About as feminist as editing a so-called women’s magazine, really.

    And Mia, have you read all the coroners’ reports into babies who died in a hospital setting? If not, why not? I think you’ll find, not only that women and their babies do die in hospitals, but also that sometimes this will be due to mistakes and wrong choices. It happens.

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  40. Lily

    From a midwives perspective, it’s the women with birth plans that are LESS likely to end up having “unnecessary” interventions. Their plan tells staff they’ve done their research, they ‘know’ and they are informed. They can’t be lied to (yes, it happens all the time!). They will ask questions and they won’t fall for scare tactics. Their plan ensures that neither they nor their baby suffers unnecessarily. Regardless of how their baby is born, they feel empowered.

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  41. Heidi H

    Mia,

    I know a lot of homebirthers so I’ve heard a lot of negative commentary about this post this week.

    I shared the frustration of women who read and were upset by it but I don’t agree with a lot of the criticism levelled at you.

    What the whole discussion has reinforced for me is the importance of staying open-minded and truly listening to other people’s perspectives and trying to put myself in their shoes.

    Because the alternative gets ugly.

    It’s only natural to feel defensive about our strongly-held beliefs, and research has shown that debate tends to reinforce those beliefs. We tend to stick with those who are like-minded and those beliefs become even stronger. I’ve witnessed this with those who are passionate about birth and breastfeeding but resisted the temptation myself.

    Someone said to me today they think that “homebirthers such as those on Joyous Birth become radicalised due to this tendency.” Accusations fly, emotions run high, we go further to the other end of our spectrum.

    I engaged with debate with a couple of the other commentators on this post and found that although initially it was quite heated and emotional by the end I felt we understood each other a little better and whilst we hadn’t changed our divergent opinions did share a little common ground.

    I used to be a lot more judgemental about the choices women made when it comes to birth, whether it be an elective non-medically indicated caesearean or a high risk freebirth. But whilst I still wouldn’t choose these paths myself, and think it’s fine to argue against them (these are important topics after all) I nolonger feeling confident labelling women “crazy” or “dangerous” because of their choices. My life experiences have proved to me that no matter how passionate I feel about something there is the possibility I could be misguided to some degree.

    I actually find the highly opininated writing of Miranda Devine and yourself very engaging – when I agree I love it! And when I don’t it smarts!

    So I’m not saying you should be opinionated.

    What disturbs me is the in practice banning of births such as those outlined in the SA coroner’s report (I didn’t read your post on this but I did read the report itself). I think there are lots of things we can do to discourage high-risk homebirthing and encourage women who are high risk to birth in hospital. But as you know there are some women out there, a handful probably, who would choose to stay at home no matter what. Do we really want them to be dragged kicking and screaming by police at term, cuffed to a hospital bed and forced? Do you really think that is viable??

    I realise we need laws to protect the welfare of children, and some commentators have suggested that the women you are condemning are mentally ill, but we are not talking about women who do not care well for their babies after they are born are we? Even if we were the idea of court-ordered caseareans, like they have in the US, really scares me. Keeping in mind that the chances of survial for an infant exposed to ‘high-risk homebirthing’ are still very high. I don’t want babies to be put at risk, but I also feel a woman should have some rights over her own body.

    The point I’m making is that attacking these women is only going to make them more determined. It may push others, their friends, further along that spectrum. In which case you are not achieving your stated objective.

    I think we are more likely to persuade others if we genuinely try to understand where they are coming from.

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  42. your mum

    mia is just a “carpet scratcher” “door knocker” what should the knock sound like???????? bhaha

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  43. George

    Thanks Mia great article.

    In my mind there is good reason we let doctors swan about in white coats a) they bloody well earned it and b) we like to feel reassured.

    I love doctors. I love hospitals. I love nurses and orderlies and registrars and the front desk information staff. For me (me) they are relaxing places, places of healing even the chocolate bars in the A&E waiting room taste better.

    Wife & I are about to set down this path & would be surprised if we spent our 1st childs Nunth Bday anywhere else than POWH.

    I mean really who wants to spend their first ever birthday party hanging out in the Living room they were born in?

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  44. Mel

    Not happy with this article at all. No Mia, actually, I would not like to talk to you about your children, or in fact your births. Because the whole time I would be feeling like you would be inventing up names to call me behind my back.

    The way we birth our children is not only our god-given right, it is an amazing priviledge for all women. And however we choose to undergo this process is also our right!! Homebirth, waterbirth, calm birth, hospital birth, birth on land, birth in a car on the way to hospital, planned births, overly planned births that turn to mud, under planned births that go well, emergency c-section, elective c-section… you name it!! All RIGHTS as Australian citizens – and that is how it should remain. Who made you the decider in how my birth should go.

    Every mother puts their children first and many also decide to enjoy the process of giving birth along the way. Stop your name calling and start respecting our diverse RIGHTS as women to plan, birth and raise our own children.

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    • Sarah

      Actually Mel, not all mothers put their children first, something you would know if you lived in the real world. And that is what she is getting at, the women who are so self absorbed that they would rather things be “comfortable” for themselves, not matter what happened to their baby, which is why she brought up the homebirths that were high risk.

      I was a high risk pregnancy, but before that I wanted a home birth, when I found out my baby was growth restricted and I would possibly have to have a c-section everything I had planned went out the window, I did everything I could for my baby to be safe, even if that meant getting cut open. I was induced at 37 weeks as she had stopped growing, and was very lucky in that I got to deliver her vaginally, but I had an epidural after being in unestablished labour for 30+ hours. The only plan a mother-to-be should have is to safely deliver her baby, no matter what, where or how she does it, children come first.

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      • nanoo

        Sarah, I agree with you wholeheartedly. I am staggered at the number of ladies who think firstly of themselves and hope like hell the baby is fine. I ended up with three difficult births and was so thankful I had chosen a safe, fully equipped place overloaded with experts to have my children – and because I did, my experience was wonderful. Every woman has the right to choose but unfortunately the babies don’t.

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  45. Crazy Witch

    My birthplan.

    !. Go into labour spontaenously on a full moon
    2. Remove clothes and cover body in goats blood
    3. Perform sacriligeous mime under oak tree in garden
    4. Light 358 candles (clockwise)
    5. Sit in birdbath, scented with lavender and moonflower
    6. Give birth to soundtract of chanting monks
    7. Have Mother-in-law deliver placenta and promptly vacum seal and freeze for next month’s meal planner.
    8. Name 12 pound baby something with weird spelling and mystical meaning.
    9. Write memo to remember smugness and superiority whilst recounting birth to everyone in a 50km radius.
    10. Breastfeed until baby is 11.

    Does that about cover it Mia?

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  46. Nat from Perth

    Mia, I couldn’t agree with you more!!! In fact, this particular issue has been on my mind for a few weeks now, ever since I started going to pregnancy yoga. Honestly, once the conversations and discussions about upcoming birth begin, I start feeling like an total outsider. I guess the difference between me and the other women in the group is that three years ago I had a baby that without the brilliant doctors and our modern medicine would not have been with us today (she was born very pre-term born via emergency c-section). So when I hear first-time pregnant women talk about medical interventions and hospitals as if it’s the top of evil, it makes my blood boil! I just want to say to all those women with a birth plan and set-in-concrete ideas about their up-coming labour: don’t forget why you decided to have a baby in the first place – certainly not so you can brag about your giving birth experience for the rest of your life!

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    • Issy

      I agree.

      For my first pregnancy I longed for a homebirth. Hubby was horrified. Then, we found out that my baby was growth restricted. The only hope of saving her was a caesarian section at 30 weeks. Not just any caesarian though, a classical caesarian (vertical cut rather than horizontal) that would make it unwise for me to go through labour in the future. I did it. She died anyway. I don’t regret our decisions for a second.

      For my second pregnancy my birth plan was, find best surgeon possible. If baby is well at birth would like lots of cuddles, skin to skin contact and to feed in recovery. If baby is not well, hubby is not to leave babies side. My son is healthy and I think that’s all that needs to be said.

      Neither of these were ‘my birth’. My birth was 30 years ago. It was very successful as both my mum and I are here to tell the tale. These births belonged to my children and as their parents my husband and I tried to make the best decisions we could for them.

      I hold my head up high for both of my childrens’ births. Not because I showed great stoicism in the face of agony, or because my babies had the most natural entry in to the world. Simply because, I was a parent. I can honestly say that I did my best.

      I have met many women who are heavily invested in their birth plan and seem to have their own self esteem inextricably tied up in the ‘perfect’ birth. For me, it’s worrying and infuriating all at the same time. Then again, sometimes life has a way of rearranging your priorities. I hope they get the birth that they want and, more importantly, that their precious children deserve.

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  47. SuperChicken

    If you knew how to do something that made you feel like superwoman (eg. giving birth drug-free) Wouldn’t you want to spread the love?

    Bring on those endorphins baby……YEAH!!!!

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    • Mia

      Hi SuperChicken,
      I’ve given birth twice with drugs and once without. So I’ve experienced the spectrum. The idea that one type of birth is somehow ‘better’ than another is part of the problem.

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      • SuperChicken

        Giving birth naturally IS a better option Mia. ESPECIALLY for the baby.

        Stop trying to glorify unneccessary intervention.

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  48. Rose

    Brilliant article, Mia! I’ve loved your writing for years and this piece is just fantastic.

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  49. Googler

    Brave article by Mia. (And at risk of being accused of nit-picking, I will say that this article is glaringly well-written compared to a couple of others I’ve read on MM this week).

    I’m not sure what it is about women who, as Mia says, profess birth method as part of their identity tag. I find it intriguing. I think it must have something to do with wanting to have more control over a very important part of a woman’s life in an environment where perhaps some feel that control, autonomy and decision making potential has been taken away? Maybe it’s the standardisation of the delivery method that some women dislike. Maybe some of us feel like we’ve lost a certain aspect of our femalehood when it comes to giving birth and want to reclaim it? I can understand and sympathise with all this. I don’t think it’s purely to do with focussing on the birth at the expense of what comes after, though. From my admittedly anecdotal experience, most women who research the stuffing out of birthing, tend to also read up on infant care, etc. It’s just a personality type, I reckon.

    I also reckon that birthplans and birth style ‘identies’ have arisen because women are just better informed about their options these days and want to utilise that. This is great. But I think women also need to be reminded that unless they’re qualified in obstetrics or midwifery, their decisions need to be tempered by proper, medical advice. So, perhaps balance is the key?

    I also love the optimism that comes with these 3-page birth plans! I had one (one page). Planned for a water birth, delivery on my side and no episiotomy. I said screw the water and ended up delivering flat on my back and with an episiotomy. I harbour no bad memories.

    That being said, I know that some ladies have had truly atrocious medical interventions that they say have affected bonding with their babies later. Maybe it’s concerns like this that make expectant mothers want to be doubly sure that they’ve crossed all the t’s and dotted all the i’s?

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