I arrived at our local cafe to meet my wife for our weekly session of cross-referencing our calendars. Our respective schedules can change quite drastically from one day to the next (one of the many exciting quirks of a life in the performing arts), so without these sessions our lives would very quickly descend into chaos. Near the top of the list of our biggest fears as parents is to be standing in the kitchen at about 4:30pm on a weekday shouting, “No, YOU were supposed to pick her up!” back and forth as we scramble for car keys and phones and the school’s office number and our self-respect.
With us on this particular morning is our darling three-year-old daughter. Our eldest was at school. On Mondays, there is a yoga class held opposite the cafe in a lovely, glass-fronted room that overlooks the sea. It’s a bit pretty. My three-year-old likes to peer into said room through the glass while the three or four women do their class. The yoga women think she’s adorable; she’s like their little yoga mascot. My wife and I finish our calendar session and say a fond farewell, safe in the knowledge that the next week is mapped out to within a nanosecond. She goes outside, gives our daughter a kiss and leaves. After a moment or two more I finish my coffee, make my way to the counter and pay while exchanging some pleasant small talk with the staff, some of whom babysit for us from time to time. We’re not regulars at this place. We’re part of the furniture.
I walk outside and go and squat beside my daughter who is still gawking at the yoga women, her nose squished against the glass. I tell her we have to go now. She asks if we can go to the park. I tell her that we’ll have to wait until it stops raining. She’s happy with that. So I proffer my hand, she takes it and we wander happily back to the car. We are just arriving at the car when I hear a female voice behind us, “Sweetie. Sweetie?”
I recognise the voice, although the slight quiver in it sounds odd.
I turn around to see a woman I recognise as the yoga instructor approaching us. She looks concerned. She is not looking at me at all. She is bending down and trying to get my daughter’s attention. “Sweetie, where’s your Mum? Where’s Mummy, sweetie?”
Oh dear. The penny drops quickly, like mercury. Oh dearie, dearie me.
I adopt my friendliest smile, “Oh, it’s ok. I’m her dad.”
By this stage I am helping my daughter into the car. The yoga instructor ignores me completely. She is wringing her hands and trying to manoeuvre herself between me and the car door. She speaks again to my daughter, this time with more urgency and insistence, her voice starting to crack, “Princess. Where’s mummy? Where’s your mummy, sweetie?”
Oh dear. At this point I am processing a litany of emotional responses, all of which are making me feel very queezy. For the sake of the situation, I persist. “It’s ok. I really am her dad. You were chatting to my wife before. I’ll call her if you like. Or we could pop back into the café if you like. The girls in there know us really well.” I’m babbling.
The yoga instructor looks me in the eye for the first time. I smile again, trying way too hard to reassure her. She is visibly shaking. She is a small, middle-aged woman with blonde hair and a comfortable gray tracksuit. Her eyes dart back to my daughter, then to me again. She stumbles through her words like Snow White bolting through the forest, “I’m sorry it’s just we see her at our classes every week and we…we’re all very fond of her and… and I… I’ve never… I don’t, I mean I didn’t…”
“It’s ok,” I say again, starting to feel a bit shaky myself, “it’s great to know there are other eyes on her.”
It’s all I could think to say.
We stand there for a moment. My daughter is in her car seat now, slipping her arms into the straps and struggling with the clip that she can never do up. She looks up at me and barks an order in her inimitable way,
“Daddy, help!”
The yoga instructor’s shoulders slump a little and she exhales a quick, audible breath. I look at her and say, “It’s ok,” again. It’s sounding like a mantra now. The yoga instructor doesn’t know where to look. She is shaking her head quite fast and her eyebrows are raised and she is breathing quickly. She manages some words.
“Right. Sorry.”
“It’s ok, really.”
She looks at my daughter one more time and gives her a little wave. Then she turns away very quickly and walks at an awkward pace back towards her yoga class, rubbing her forehead. She is still shaking her head. She doesn’t look back. I know this because I watched her walk away until she was out of sight. I couldn’t move.
And now I’m sitting here writing it all down, and can’t help but think about the whole episode from the yoga instructor’s perspective: a little girl pressing her face against the glass and watching the yoga class, as she always does; the little girl’s mum saying hello and apologising for her daughter’s intrusive behaviour, as she always does; the mum leaving; the little girl smiling in on the women doing their yoga; a man approaching the little girl, squatting down and talking to her, then taking her by the hand and walking away with her.
And in the short time it took me to get to the car, this woman had decided that she must go after the little girl and make sure she’s alright. This small, middle-aged woman scuttled out of her yoga class – and that’s the other thing! Did the yoga class watch it all unfold in horror? Did they all question who I was and what was happening?
“Does anyone recognise him? Anyone?”
“No, I’ve never seen him with her.”
“I haven’t either.”
“Oh God.”
And she came right up to the man who measures six foot two and weighs 90 kilos and asked the little girl where her mummy was because she felt she had to; because they’re all very fond of this little girl who stares at them through the glass on Monday mornings. The yoga instructor in the comfortable tracksuit didn’t look the other way or let it slide or shake it off or just shrug and presume the best. She chose not only to assume the worst, she chose to do something about it.
On the drive home from the café I was angry. I felt ill. I was frowning and shaking my head and muttering profanities, most probably because I couldn’t shake the thought that somebody actually believed I might have been abducting a child. My child. But once I got home, and with the benefit of a sliver of hindsight, all I could think was, “What a champion.” And I said it out loud to myself. “What a champion.”
We are constantly informed of how much evil exists is in the world. We are bombarded with horrendous stories of child abuse, abduction, murder; you name it. We get it from those who report fact and we get it from those who create fiction. I feel like we’ve never been made more aware of the capacity for people to be horrible creatures.
I can’t presume to know what motivated that yoga instructor to do what she did. Maybe her actions were fuelled by paranoia. Maybe she’s been convinced to believe that a man on his own taking a little girl’s hand has as much chance of being a paedophile as he does of being her father. Maybe it was just blind instinct. I don’t know. I don’t care. I choose to stand and applaud her, because I believe what she chose to do was the right thing; was good.
Next Monday I am going to walk into that yoga class with my daughter in tow and introduce myself properly to the small, middle-aged yoga instructor. I am going to offer her my genuine thanks. I will not accept any embarrassed apology she may offer, because she owes noone an apology, least of all me. And if it feels like it’d be ok, I will give her a hug. And then I will tell her that I think she is a champion.
Mike is best known for his performance as Paul Keating in Keating! The Musical, which had its debut at the 2005 MICF. He will perform with his wife, Fiona Harris, in their upcoming comedy play, Plus One, at the 2012 Melbourne International Comedy Festival.








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I just can’t help but think the yoga instructor was so brave – and you were such a good sport to take it the way you did.
Situation isn’t ideal, no – but it is what we make of it.
And heaven help us if it was that ‘other’ situation – we’d be praising the yoga teacher for being so quick to take action.
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So – a few things from a male/dad-of-a-3yo-girl point of view:
1. It is a fact we implicitly accept that there is a ‘need’ to be vigilent as to who is engaging with children in our society. Yes, I would want someone who cares for my daughter in the community demonstrating this level of care, too.
2. However, that does NOT detract from the shock and humiliation that I guess would have been the immediate rection of Mike’s. This is not discrimination… this is a generalisation around the intentions of men.
3. When caring for my daughter for whatever reason, I get asked a lot “So! You’re ‘playing’ mummy today, are you…?” I look them squarely in the eye and say, “No. I’m being a father.” Big difference. You would rarely hear the same being said in reverse, would you? My follow up line when I get the inevitable nervous, gaze-avoiding response is, “The only thing men can’t do is breast feed.”
4. Asking children black and white questions does not always work. Years ago at a friends’ 3yo child’s party in a local park, I was helping lift party goers up on the slide in a veritable production line. The host said it was time for cake, and kids started to wander off. I looked down at the little girl next to me and said “It’s cake time! Let’s go!” She took my hand willingly and we walked towards the festivities… when the host took me to one side and said… “Ah…Al…that’s ‘not one of ours’…” The girl had walked maybe 25m away from the park with me. I dropped to my knee, white faced, and said “Darling, are you here with your mummy?” “No, my Nanna.”, she said. “You need to go back to her now, I’m sorry.” At that, she burst into genuine tears, and sobbed “…but I wanted to have CAKE!!!” Oh, great. First child abduction, then psychological abuse. I walked away thinking “Oh God… that’s how easy it must be to abduct a child…” I was mortified.
5. Loved you in ‘Keating!’…
…Al
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If anyody were to physically come between me and my children, and I mean anybody, in the manner this woman did, with such vile unfounded accusation, then I would consider this an assault and react with swift and deft consequences.This woman had better be very careful who she picks on and who she comes between next time. She is not noble but instead corrosive to society. Paranoia is not a virtue.
End of story.
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Boo to you!
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God forbid this should ever happen to a child that you love….no doubt you will be the first to point fingers and accuse others of turning a blind eye.
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And I agree with Blah…BOOOOOOOOOO to you
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Good on her and good on you for taking it so well. Most people don’t want to ‘get involved’. We are overly paranoid. But you just never know…
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You’re on the Circle right now! Looking forward to the tune. Like the other readers I too am curious as to what will happen when you next see the yoga instructor. Bless her!
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I wish more people would have the guts to step in when they are concerned about a child. Good on the yoga lady – and good on you for seeing her as a champion.
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I want a follow up to this article please!
with how it all went – brom both sides and from any of the other women in the class
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I’m so impressed by both of you – her for saying something, and you for understanding why she did. I’m not as brave as that – which does not mean I have not sometimes jotted down licence plate numbers if something doesn’t feel quite right. It makes me feel paranoid and I hate myself for doing it, but I think I’d hate myself more if I didn’t and something really had happened.
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I’m glad you can write about this positively in hindsight, however, reading this story made me feel ill. I don’t think the woman is a champion. I don’t believe there was any reasonable excuse for what she did other than being over paranoid.
I remember when I was a girl and my dad would take me out for special daddy/daughter outings on weekends and on a number of occasions women would approach us asking if I were okay and where my mother was. My dad took it in his stride but it would infuriate me that these women could be so presumptuous and I would often let them have it (they usually weren’t so concerned for my safety after this).
A man once tried to persuade my younger brother and I into his car whilst we waited for a bus after school so I assume that attempted abductions are probably not uncommon but fathers are pretty hands on these days so it’s time people got used to the image of men with children as a norm. I would hate to think of someone harassing my husband like that when he was out with our children alone.
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I actually kind of got the feeling that Mike didn’t have much choice other to write that he was thrilled that this lady fronted up and challenged him. Imagine if he’d written that he was pissed off about it?
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Well, he didn’t have to write about it all so I think he did have a choice. Plus he was honest in that his initial reaction was to feel angry.
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Yes I know he didn’t have to write about it. But imagine the response if he had written about it and just left it at being pissed off? I would be filthy if someone did that to me with my daughter. But I’m a chick, so it probably wouldn’t happen to me.
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I understand why you would feel affronted if someone indirectly accused you of abducting your own child but surely the idea that people you don’t even know are looking out for your kids is a pretty damn comforting one?
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Having to meet to “cross reference schedules” , worrying about forgetting to pick your children up because your lives are so dam busy! It’s actually funny that you would be offended that someone cared enough to question the safety of your children. Next time you should be so lucky!!!!!!
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What?
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working in child care, i sometimes need to ask people coming to pick up a certain child for their i.d. sometimes i feel like the person is annoyed that they are being asked for id if they are picking up, say they’re grandchild/niece/nephew etc. but if we have never seen the person, then it really could be anyone coming in and taking the child.
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Same for me. I have seen the look some people get when asked for ID. No way am I letting a child go without seeing it though.
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When picking up my niece or a friends sons from preschool for the first time I had my ID ready.
The staff knew I was coming that day, they had been provided with a copy of my license, and I had the younger brother with me when I arrived.
They asked and when they realized it was in my hand to give them before they asked for it they just smiled.
If I have children in preschool I hope the school will be as diligent.
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Mike, I think you are champion too. I love the fact that you can see past the fact that you are the Dad, and not just bang on about the fact that this woman was worried. There was a similar post a while back about people being paranoid about paedophiles. I commented and got blasted for it. I would rather offend someone by actions like this lady than feel guilty forever that I didn’t intervene. Bravo to both of you!
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This is a very positive view of a positively bizzarre situation. I don’t understand why the woman approached in the first place. Just because you haven’t seen someone with a child before it is hardly a reason to assume that it is someone the child doesn’t know. It isn’t a reason to intervene to me. By the sounds of it, the interaction between Daddy and daughter was perfectly normal and there was no “scene” or struggle. So I honestly don’t see how the intervention was necessary. If anything I think she should have spoken to Dad first and just made small conversation to see if anything was suss. OR how about saying to the child “Oh is Daddy looking after you today? Are you being spoiled rotten are you? Where are you off to with your Daddy?” Child centred conversation will give someone an idea if something is amiss, but there is no need to make a situation awkward to find out. And by making it general rather than an awkward line of questioning, the adult in question will either look put out/or hesitate to say anything; or they will participate in the conversation without a beat “yes mummy has things to do today but we are going to XXXX. She loves watching you all at yoga! You might have a little mascot on your hands” etc etc.
In my personal opinion and experience, asking a 3 year old “where is your mummy?” could get a vast number of responses that have no bearing on why they are with someone else. She could have said “mummy has gone shopping to buy me presents” and it she still may or may NOT be with an abductor.Also many 3 year olds will get shy and not respond at all, particularly if they have a parent to hide behind.
I would recommend anyone who suspects something is amiss with an adult/child, is to initiate conversation with both adult and child, ask general questions about where they are off to, what they are up to today and don’t give away that you are suspicious. Then if you remain suspicious, document the conversation, time, place, number plates and what the people look like, and anything else that strikes you out of the ordinary. You can give it to the police immediately if necessary. You are NOT going to be able to pin that person for child abduction in public even if they are one. Try it and see what happens!
Most abductions are by parents in custody battles anyway.
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I don’t agree, I can see it from the woman’s point of view. She had seen the child with her Mum just a few minutes earlier (and probably on previous occasions). Now the child was being walked away by a man she’d never seen before, with Mum nowhere in sight. In asking the child “where’s Mummy?” she probably wasn’t looking for some articulate explanation from her, but just for signs of distress or confusion. Remember, the woman would have been feeling extremely nervous and panicked. Imagine how you would feel if you suspected, but weren’t sure, that you were witnessing a child abduction. It would be very scary. You only have split seconds to react and you risk a lot either way – do nothing and you risk a child’s life; intervene and risk huge embarrassment and awkwardness if you’ve got it wrong.
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I can definitely see the woman’s point of view – particularly if she hadn’t seen Mike and daughter interact before they walked away. However I still think she approached it the wrong way. A child could seem distressed and still NOT be being abducted. A conversation with the child that included the suspect would be enough to detect if something wasn’t right. I stand by my initial thoughts that she didn’t have the right to treat Mike the way she did. After the first, “it’s ok I’m her Dad” she should have backed off. Her actions could have actually put her own safety at risk, as well as the child’s, had he been an actual abductor. The other thing is, there is about millionth of a per cent chance that he was actually an abductor. You wouldn’t be rude to someone on a hunch that they might be a paedophile, or a thief, or a wife basher… you observe and speak to them normally until they give you strong reason to believe your suspicions are right. So why is child abduction different? It would have been different if this woman had seen the mother walk inside to pay for her coffee and some random walk up from nowhere and lead the child away, but she didn’t actually see anything. I think her intentions were good, but I think it wouldn’t hurt her to think about how she approached the situation.
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oh, and on the flip side, my son is autistic and when strapped to a pram screams like a banshee, i am horrified not once has my father or husband or even me, been pulled up leaving shopping centers, and he yells ‘help me’ or, “you hurting me”
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i had police called on me for leaving my children in the car, one was 8 years old and vomiting the other was 2. what i did was wrong, i know that, but at the time with 2 kids with severe gastro, i was on my own interstate and on the last nappy. i stood there and watched the woman call the police, she was talking to my kids, they are friendly, people do. but the cops came within 5 minutes…. i was so annoyed as she has a 1-2 year old, and had taken a moment to judge the situation and called 000, as i was being roasted by the police for leaving kids in a quiet car park locked in the car where i could see, yet her car was running door open and no one within 2 meters of the door, i still find that wrong.
however, on the drive home as i was shaking from the ordeal i forgave her because, althou she was way off in this case, who is to say that given a different circumstance that what she did wouldnt save a life? i am thankful that some stranger cared enough for my kids, some random children in a car park made her go outside her comfort zone and she protected them. provided people mean well who am i to judge?
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I don’t think what you did was wrong, it sounds perfectly reasonable to me in that situation.
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I think this is a very generous response to what occurred. Yes, it’s good to know others in the community are watching over our children but sometimes the paranoia of others does more harm than good. Men can feel unable to show affection to children in public in case they are mistaken for pedophiles. Children can be terrified by stories of stranger danger. It concerns me that the yoga instructor did not look Mike in the eye at the start. His initial emotional response suggests he clearly felt under suspicion. She could have approached him openly to resolve this matter without making him feel bad. They were in public. There were plenty of people around. Good on yer Mike for being generous enough to believe otherwise.
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As Mike said, he is not a slip of a person and if I was to approach someone who I thought was potential abductor, I am not sure I would have the courage to look them in the eye or address them. And if she had addressed Mike or even a real abductor would their answers not be quite similar? An abductor would possibly lie and try and convince the person that they were the kid’s father.
Kids usually tell the truth and so that’s why I think the yoga instructor felt it would be best to address the child.
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Wonderful story Mike, bought a tear to my eye, and I am so grateful to Champions like the Yoga Instructor out there. Please peeps, never 2nd guess yourself for approaching myself or my family in the same situation. We would appreciate the effort for the best result. It should be all about the kids and their safety not anyones pride….well written!
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This may have been said elsewhere, but I have to wonder if, had the situation been reversed and it were the father who was well-known and had left and a strange woman bent down and talked to the little girl and led her away, would anyone have batted an eyelid?
That said, I applaud this woman for acting on that gut feeling that something may not have been right. Much better to be a wrong a thousand times than ignore that gut feeling and be right – with horrible consequences.
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That made me cry. What a beautifully written piece.
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Can I just say that first and foremost… what a fantastically written article. I also want to add that the yoga instructer was incredibly brave to go out and speak to your little girl and make sure that she was safe. I’m sure that many people have seen something and had a gut inspinct that ‘something wasn;t right’… but chose to not say anything.
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I am a very vigilant parent and I still appreciate any help I get from strangers to keep my kids safe. Was it on mamamia that I read about a man carrying his kicking and screaming child out of a full SCG, and only one person taking any notice and asking a question?
Your yoga lady rocks Mike for caring enough about the kids in her community to risk some embarrassment. And you rock too.
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I love everything about this.
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I think there are 2 champions in this story. The yoga instructor for following her gut instinct and the author for recognising (after a profanity laden drive home) that no harm was done and this wasn’t a personal attack but rather a concerned member of society doing what she felt she had to to protect a child. Society could do with more of both these personality types.
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What a champion.
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Thinking about it, I find the woman’s question really odd. I mean, even if the girl had of answered it doesn’t explain anything. If she said “at work” or “over there” or “I don’t know”, that’s doesn’t tell the woman that she knows this man and that’s she’s ok. So I don’t know what she was expected to achieve with that, other than letting Mike know she suspected him, which, if he had been a predator is quite risky in that situation (caught in the act, can’t just run off because his car is still there etc.)
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I guess by questioning the child, if the man was really trying to steal her it would make him uneasy and cause him to react, where she would then know something is up.
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It’s not the best question to ask, but in a situation like that, I know I’d come out with a stupid question that I’d kick myself for asking later. It was the act of talking to the child about her carer and finding out if she felt safe that was important.
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i think i’d rather feel embarrassed than be a victim.
on a lighter note it’s embarrassing taking my then 11 year old son to a bakery in the barossa, only to have the nice old lady behind the counter ask my son if he is having a nice day out with grannie!!
remind me to never have a child in my 40′s again
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I can relate. I’ve got a 7 month old boy and i’m 46. I knew one day the question would come. “Is he your first grandchild?”. I think I handled it well and so did the lady asking the question….
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lol..get used to it as it will happen. again and again. and each time it does, it completely catches you off guard. only because i forget how old i am. or that i may just be looking my age. i could even feel a little offended when people ask me i f i have grandchildren. it’s up there with being asked if you’re pregnant when you are not. all funny.
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If your daughter was screaming out or looking visibly disturbed then I personally would have stepped in if I saw it happen, but if not then why say anything? why make YOU as her dad feel bad, if I was in your position I would have let her have it, calling her a deviant for even thinking that way. The fact when you said your her dad and she kept asking where mummy was, would be the last straw for me, I suggest your wife find somewhere else to do yoga rather then be annoyed by brain dead morons.
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Harsh.
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yeah, I’m with you – this is really worst-first thinking to assume it’s an abduction
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Until you live down the road from where Daniel Morcombe was abducted. When SO many people drove past and did nothing. I’ve wished so many times that it was me driving on that road that day, seen what was happening and stopped. I wish I had the opportunity to interfere. I wish someone was as brave as the yoga lady.
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why didn’t yoga woman ask the staff in the coffee shop first. The whole situation would have been avoided if she had just asked someone.
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Maybe she didn’t want to waste time asking, in case the little girl was being taken – in which case she would have kicked herself for the rest of her life for not just going straight out and sussing out the situation…
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Or just go “Oh that must be her dad”?
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I think you’re both champions.
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Me too!
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The best approach, if you were that suspicious, would be to make light of the situation: maybe ask “ooh is this your daddy is it sweetie?” With a smile Instead of “where’s mummy?” and looking all panicked and shaky. That comment annoyed me. “Daddy’s” exist too, yoga woman, have a little faith! The child-taking stats are actually quite low, there’s a huge media beat up about it trying to make ppl scared as usual. Are we that distrusting and suspicious of people these days? It’s pretty sad really.
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I agree. The best way to handle something like this is lightly. Start a conversation. In this case, as the child and her mum are known to the yoga woman, she could have asked the girl if this was her Dad without implying she suspected anything, just as a way of introducing herself.
If Mike had been a stranger abducting a child, this woman’s behavior would have made him more dangerous.
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I don’t think this woman had very much time to think about the best approach. Full marks to her for doing anything. Children being safe is more important than an awkward moment between yoga woman and the dad.
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I agree she was probably panicked, impulsive and as it turns out, wrong. But I’d rather have people like her around anyday!
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There’s a fine line between looking out for a child in this kind of circumstance and just being rude.
Like many of the comments below, I commend you for being able to look at the positive side of the incident.
However, I can’t help but relate this to my own experience with a similar occurrence when I was a child. I was with my younger sister (we were probably about 9 and 7 at the time) and my mum’s partner of many years. My sister had an exceptionally close bond with him and even called him ‘Daddy’. He was a lot older than my mum – in his 60s at the time. I can’t remember why my mum wasn’t with us but we had just gone out for dinner with him and we were getting back into the car when a young woman came rushing over to us. “Excuse me, excuse me… I’m doing a research project for university about grandparents’ relationships with their grandchildren”.
It was absolutely humiliating. Even as a 9 year old I could feel his embarrassment.
So I guess from my perspective and in my story, the lady who rushed over to us wasn’t wrong for assuming what she did but it was still unnecessarily rude and made us very uncomfortable.
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It’s interesting to hear it from the other side. We certainly are always bombarded by the horrible things that happen every day and how we can prevent them.
Us urban dwellers are labelled as assholes because we rarely make eye contact, walk right past the homeless guys without a second thought and would probably step right over a convulsing teenager in Kings Cross on a Saturday night.
So when someone does go with their instinct and try to protect a child, it does show that there is still some heart in the world, but unfortunately, it hurts the poor dad’s heart.
It must be insulting and harsh and make you question yourself, but I hope you don’t, Mike, because I bet it was nothing personal.
In this case, she was wrong, as people often are, but if she had been right, if someone had come and taken your beautiful little girl that wasn’t her dad, it would have been all so different. She would be an absolute hero.
It sucks that she made you feel bad, but it could have been worse.
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Yeah… I don’t think many people would ignore a convulsing teenager.
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I agree! What a champion!!! What a brave woman, what if the man she approached WAS not only 6ft2 and built, BUT also doing the unthinkable!!! I think she is awesome!!
Even more so, PLEASE go into that class on Monday and thank her, thank her for caring enough to DO SOMETHING! because if she was ever concerned again, I would want THAT fantastic lady to stand up again, to do what she felt was right, because you NEVER know… you just NEVER know…
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im still getting my head around the fact you and your wife meet weekly to discuss your schedules.give me break….
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My husband and I do this, its gives us a chance to have a peaceful coffee and some quiet time to chat without any interruptions from our many children. Its like a mini date with diaries!
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I do the same with my ex-wife. Prevents many problems and also reinforces our need to look after the interests of our son above our own.
I’ve had three similar experiences to MIke but in each case my son has looked at the person – two women and a man – and told them: “Don’t be silly. This is my dad.”
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Try being one of two performing artists in a relationship! Oy vey…
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One day I was at work and a courier brought in a small child, toddler, and said she was wandering in our small car park. I knew the church next door had a play group that morning so I picked the little lady up to take her next door. As I walked across the car park with her a woman screamed at me’ “what are you doing with my child!”. Well how embarrassed was I ? Mother calmed down when I told her what had happened. I mean crikey the kid could have been run over so easily, and where was mother all this time? It takes a village.
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I have a question for parents of toddlers- I work in a department store and kids wander off from their parents all the time. I always try to just keep an eye on them so they don’t get too far, and sometimes they come up to me and want to play or chat.
I just worry sometimes that it’s bad etiquette to be talking to a little kid when their parents aren’t there? Would you think that was a little strange of me or would you just think nothing of it? (Maybe I should mention that I’m female- sadly the guys at work aren’t allowed to work in the kidswear department.)
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I think it’s fine. Especially if you are clearly a staff member – wearing a name badge or uniform. As a parent, I would instantly know that you are staff. And as a parent of young, very social kids, I understand that you can be approached and bombarded with questions (and useless information!) from young children. I think it’s nice when people respond to them and strike up a conversation. It’s good for the kids too. Gives them confidence can make them feel good about themselves.
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I would be grateful! I would think it was cute, and nice that someone else was appreciating my fantastic child. Better that you (a non-weirdo) was talking to them than a weirdo.
Mind you, I would always know where my child was, and they would rarely be out of my sightline. I would know that you were talking to her.
But for 5 mums who don’t care, there will be one who goes berko.
It’s not about you- it’s about them.
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If you are in a uniform, and have a name badge that distinguishes you as working there I would never have a problem… and to be so kind as to keep an eye on the children, wow!!! THANK you!
My child is not a wanderer, but just after christmas I was shopping with a friend and thought he was in the next aisle looking at the toys, but when I went on to reconnect, he was not there… I have NEVER felt that sense of panic before… we split up and started calling out for him, and lucky for me he came running from the other side of the shop, completely oblivious “Eyes shopping mummy” he replied when I asked him where he was…
The hardest part was the glares I got from two staff as a called his name out!!!
You interacting with those children keep them close and keep them entertained!
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Oh I know! I don’t have kids of my own but I remember my mum freaking out when my little brother disappeared in a shopping centre. Must feel awful.
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Is it actual written policy that men aren’t allowed to work in kidswear, or an unwritten rule? Either way I think it’s appalling.
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I worked in Target for years, and I have never heard that men cant work in kidswear.
In our store anyway, everyone helped out in all depts especially on weekends. So if you came on the weekend, you were likely to have a young guy doing the kids section.
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No no it’s not a written rule and as far as I know it’s only our store. The managers would never put it in writing (so that they couldn’t get into trouble for it) but they definitely don’t let guys do it. I really don’t like the rule either.
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I think it’s fine for anyone to talk to my child. Is the new social convention to not engage with kids at all in case someone thinks the worse of you?
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How ridiculous that men aren’t allowed to work in the kidswear department!
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WOW how come men cant work in the kids department? Thats pretty bad! My husband is by far one of the best people i know with kids he seriously should have been a teacher or in childcare…he is the best fun dad! And he is an amazing salesman…what a shame someone like him who would be amazing at a job like that couldnt get a job simply cos he is a male! What a silly company! I quite like when cool guys help out when i am shopping with my little guy! he likes to have a chat with boys but gets very shy with girls. To answer your question, i wouldnt worry at all…as long as its clear u work there, i would be happy if my little man had a chat with you…but he’s too shy to talk to big girls haha!
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A couple of years ago, my husband had to pick up our daughter from Occasional Care. He’d never been there before. When I took her that morning and signed her in, I note that ‘Dad’ would be collecting her. He is also on the official enrolment documentation as someone authorised to collect her. And when he arrived she saw him and ran over squealing ‘Daddy, daddy’, very happy to see him.
Still, I received a call on my mobile from the staff asking me to describe his appearance. He hadn’t bothered to take photo ID with him – it didn’t cross his (or my) mind. At first I thought the staff were joking, they knew me and my kids so well. After it all though, I was glad they called. They were just being vigilant.
On a slight flipside, last year at my daughter’s kinder, there were a couple of stay-at-home-dads who were always doing the drop offs and pick ups. Us other parents all got to know each other and the kids so well. Late in Term 4, one of the SAHD’s didn’t come to collect his little boy, the mum did instead and I have to say, we all noticed instantly that there was a new adult in the kinder, who was a strange to us. And some of us did say to the little boy ‘Ryan, is this your mummy? What fun to have mummy pick you up today!’.
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I’m super curious to know if mum was ID’d?
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This makes me really sad. Fathers should be able to go out in public with their daughters.
I wonder if the situation was reversed, and she saw her with her mother for the first time, would she have acted in the same way?
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I understand where are coming from.
But I reckon if that if that exact situation were reversed and that yoga instructor had only ever seen that child with her dad and then one day a woman (a total stranger in her eyes) turned up and walked off with the child, she would have questioned that too.
I just mentioned above about a little boy at my child’s kinder last year who had only ever had his dad take him to kinder… we made sure when, after nearly a whole year of never sighting the child’s mum, it was really her when she came to collect him.
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This is a wonderful thing the instructor did.
I don’t feel it was because you were a man, I choose to believe she would have done the same had anyone taken your daughter who wasn’t your wife. They know your wife and have met her.
I often stop to ask lost looking kids if they are OK, and am just as relieved to see a man say “It’s OK, they’re mine” as a woman. I don’t ask “Where’s your mummy” either, but “Where are your parents?” or “Do you know where the person you were with is?”
Can’t pass a lost or crying child without confirming they know where they are and where the adult they were with is. It’s about looking out for kids in our community.
Bravo to her.
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I would do the same with a kid who looked lost (and have done), but I know I’m also the type of person who is less likely to assume the worse when I see a child with a different adult than normal…but I tend to see the best in people…
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Yeah, I tend to assume the best as well. But if I saw a child I knew without someone I didn’t, I think I would ask.
I remember working in a video store as a teen and there was a very cute girl who came in about 7:30pm every Wednesday night with her dad, in her PJs. The first time she came in with her mum, walking separately to her mum (I didn’t realise they entered together), I did ask her where her dad was though.
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I think the thing about this story that rubbed some people up the wrong way was her choice of approach. She obviously panicked, and she didn’t let up when Mike said “no I’m her Dad. Her Mum and I come here all the time” and reassured her. She should have just kept it light and then let it go. I dare say if Mike had been an abductor, she would still have frightened the kid more than him. Hats off to the yoga lady for checking… but she overstepped the line in the sand to being rude and unneccessarily paranoid in my opinion
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Well done, Mike, for rising above your initial (completely justified) embarrassment and anger to realise that the yoga instructor was simply proactively watching out for your daughter. I imagine it must have been difficult for you to not get angry (as that would certainly be my first reaction!).
As for the yoga instructor: she deserves a bunch of flowers! How wonderful to know that there are still people who are willing to put themselves out there and risk ridicule (or worse) to double check the welfare of a child. I can only hope there are many more like her watching out for my children. Bravo, yoga instructor!
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I flew overseas with my three week old baby girl. I was stopped at customs and waited at a special desk for AGES for them to clear us for leaving Australia. I was happy about this, a wise procedure. I assume they were not only checking any police reports but also checking my response to the situation.
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I know a man who refuses to go out with his 4 year old daughter by himself unless absolutely unavoidable. He insists his wife goes with them because he’s been interrogated a couple of times and had one woman at a park threaten to call the police until his daughter yelled (for everyone to hear): “he’s my daddy and he can’t marry you because he is married to my mummy”.
He’s made to feel like a pedophile just by walking hand in hand with his little girl. I absolutely understand the need to be alert about child safety but the odds of a child being kidnapped by a stranger are extremely low and I think there’s a way to be alert without making fathers and other male care givers feel awful.
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I find this very strange. My husband looks nothing like my daughter and (apart from the one incident I posted about below) this has never happened to him… is he the exception? do other men get this level of scrutiny?
Our experience is that him taking her out alone precipitates a ticker tape parade and coos “of aren’t you a nice daddy/ husbandd looking after her so mum can rest….”
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When I had just one child, I got this a lot – women following me into the parking lot, “where’s your mummy” comments while I’m standing right there.
But now with my brood, not so much!
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I hate that “Where’s mum” seems to be the thing people ask in this situation. Do father’s not exist? How does finding out where mummy is tell you whether this is daddy or not? Such a stupid question.
My grandmother used to do this, and finally stopped when she asked a little girl where mum was, and the girl burst into tears and told her mum was dead.
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I find this so bizarre! My husband has his RDO during the week, so is often out alone with our 3yo daughter and has never had an issue.
It’s sad that we live in a time where Dad’s are uncomfortable going places alone with their kids due to other peoples reactions.
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It was the brave and right thing to do. I detest the hysteria around child abductions and paedophilia – I refuse to give in to fear mongering – however in the small cases where child abuses and neglect do happen it seems there were people who should have noticed something wasn’t right yet chose to do nothing about it.
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This happened to my mum once. She’s Indonesian and has darker skin than my sisters and I (since we’re half Indonesian). Mum was in a waiting room at the hospital a few years ago with the 3 year old, when a woman approached my sister to ask, “are you sure that’s your mummy?”.
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There should be more “yoga instructors” in this world. I witnessed a similar thing happen at my local post office, I was concerned for a little girl who went off with a man, can’t explain why, but the situation felt odd. I even took a photo of his licence plate number as he drove off with her, BUT I DID NOTHING. Suffice to say, it was probably my own paranoia! But its good to know strangers still look out for the welfare of young children.
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We laugh about it now as a family, but when my daughter was two she was chucking a MASSIVE tanty at the beach.
She had been really naughty with me, biting and hitting me and Mr cat picked her up and walked her away.
She started screaming “put me down” “I want my Mummy!” .
Mr cat is olive skinned, dark haired and brown eyes. Our girl is fair skinned, blue eyes, blonde hair.
Within minutes, the local police had been called – and approached Mr Cat and the tantruming toddler. I rushed over to them and explained the situation, but as mr cat said what would he have done if I hadn’t been there? how did he prove that she was his child (particularly as she is not her biological daughter)?
Personally he was not upset and calling the police was a pretty reasonable response given it was a screaming child wanting her mummy…
I guess the answer is if someone was trying to abduct my child, and hundred of people witnessed her being carried away screaming I would be horrified if noone called the police or questioned them. I am grateful that there are people in our community who look out for our children.
But we do laugh about the tantrum that almost got daddy locked up!
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A couple of years ago I was living and working in the US.
My boss away working on the east coast and I was on the west coast.
At the last minute he decided he’d like to have his 2 kids join him for the weekend and that I was to take them.
No problem.
No problem at all… I flew ACROSS THE COUNTRY with 2 children that were of no relation to me at all. I was just their Dads PA.
I wasn’t asked for a letter of authority (which I had – just in case), parent info or what my relationship to the children was. Nothing.
I was sure I’d be questioned by someone, somewhere either at ticketing or security, but nope – nothing.
If I was put in the same position as the yoga teacher and saw something out of the ordinary, I’d like to think I’d be able to ask the question.
It’s just a question and if you’ve got nothing to hide, there’s nothing to hide and there’s a lot to be said for gut instinct.
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Love this piece. And how great is that Yoga teacher? Yes, go and introduce yourself to her and the class. how wonderful to know they are keeping an eye on your little one as well? Good on you too Mike. Your just as much of a champion. Loved you in Keating by the way – what a top show.