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This is an important community announcement for anyone who may come into contact with a new mother. There will be many questions you enthusiastically want answered, but please be aware, some are a tad irritating and should be given a wide berth.

To prevent future mothers from enduring these tedious queries, let’s get the word out there. The following questions are about as welcome as a cold sore:

1. “So what do you actually do all day?” (Asked by childless humans). 
This question is always accompanied by a confused screwed up face.  The kind of expression you would enjoy removing with the back of your hand. It naively flies out the mouths of pesty people who assume your day is spent sipping tea and getting your nails shellacked.

If I’m being totally honest I’ll admit, some days can be pretty cruisy. I might sit on my derrière and watch a few episodes of The Housewives of Beverly Hills. I may cram in a nap, and I’m partial to a little Facebook stalking. But let’s not forget that I manage all of this WHILE KEEPING MY BABY ALIVE!

Explaining what you do all day as a stay at home mum is almost impossible. If you actually listed off every feed, soiled nappy change, and load of washing you did, you would bore the bejesus out of the questioner (and possibly send yourself into a slight depression).

The worst thing about this question is the insinuation that spending your days raising tomorrow’s future generation is somehow not enough of a contribution to society. Yes I know, very dramatic but I think you get my point.  This question sucks!

2. “So do you want me to babysit?” (Asked by the baby’s father.) 
“Ummm, nah, how’s about you just parent your child?” I won’t throw my boyfriend under the bus here. Fortunately he knows when our son is in his care he isn’t pocketing $17 an hour. However, there are some fathers who think looking after their own child, by themselves, is somehow doing their partner a ‘favour’. I’d like to make it clear that babysitters usually come in the form of 18-year-old girls who need the extra cash to buy Passionfruit UDL’s on the weekend. Fathers do not classify as babysitters, just men raising their own offspring.  I hope we have cleared this one up.

3. “Are you getting much sleep?” (Asked by morons everyone) 
It could possibly be the excess hormones wildly rushing through my body that make this question so unpalatable.  Although I’m sure you’d agree, this is the most ludicrous thing to ask a new mum.

Sleep deprivation starts off during pregnancy, when you suddenly need to spend more time on the toilet having a tinkle than in your own bed.* It then gets dramatically worse when the baby arrives.  You find yourself shoving your boob, or a bottle, in a tiny mouth approximately 153 times a night.

I’m told tiredness eases up a smidge when your kid hits their teen years. Although many Saturday nights are spent lying in bed wide awake with worry. Your young adult is oblivious to this while out gallivanting around town, pashing anything with a heartbeat.

That beautiful, indulgent, uninterrupted sleep apparently doesn’t return until the nest is empty. For some reason by this age it seems like a wise idea to get up at 5.30am just to “get a full days gardening in”.

So basically that beautiful, nurturing, loving friend called ‘sleep’ turns into a back stabbing moll.

4. “You look amazing for having just had a baby.” (Technically this isn’t a question, but an infuriating comment all the same)

I haven’t studied at the Ponds Institute, but I’m pretty sure growing a human being inside your body, and then enduring 10 hours of labour, is not the perfect beauty regime.  I know this because I resembled a bloated puffer fish after having my baby.

If people feel it necessary to comment on the state of a new mothers appearance why not just say just “you look amazing”.  Full stop. Don’t add “…for just having had a baby”. It turns what could have been a lovely compliment into a reminder that you have wet patches where your nipples are, fish n chips could be fried in your oily hair, and you have bags under your eyes that put John English to shame.

I hope this announcement has been received loud and clear.  If you have the need to ask a new mum a question make it “can I get you a cup of tea?” or perhaps, “would you like me to rub your swollen feet?” Otherwise it might be best to just zip it.

*My record was NINE times in one night. Too much information???

Ed’s note: This post was clearly written in jest. The author and moderator are reading comments and we will be deleting any that breach the comment rules – as well as all replies to those comments. Be nice people. And take a breath.

Katie “Monty” Dimond is a broadcaster and media personality. She has appeared on Channel Ten, Channel Nine, and Nova FM. She is currently busy being a full time Mum and loving it! You can follow her on Twitter here

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604 Comments so far

  1. Miss - B

    As someone who is contemplating trying to conceive in the forseeable future I struggle with what appear to be a lot of ‘negative’ articles (or negative commenting) about motherhood. I get enough inappropriate questions and commenting on my lifestyle as it is – I’m not sure I could cope with them about my babies as well. I know babies are hard work and I’m likely to be sleep deprived for the next 18 years … but what are the good parts? Is it worth it?

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    • contented

      YES! It is totally worth it. A million times over. Hope all goes well for you.

      Good parts include: A baby smiling at you. The way kids are all tough and independent until they are sick , scared or worried, then they need a cuddle. The way they love you even when you stuff things up. The funny things they say. Seeing your partner (if you have one) as a Dad / Mum – awesome! Knowing that you are on a team. There’s lots of great great bits – when people are negative, or point out the negative, it’s because raising kids is just so daily and so long term. But worth every moment!

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      • smashleigh

        i agree. as a child care worker, sure it can be frustrating hearing 16 0-2 year olds crying all day and changing soo many nappies and trying to feed them and clean, etc, etc. but there are soo many rewards which keep me going back to work each week. last week, a mum came to pick up her daughter, and when she was holding her, i went up to say goodbye, and the little girl put her arms out to me for me to take her! melted my heart.

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    • shanny

      it’s pretty much. a joke. pretty much. but most of us go back for more, so it can’t be all bad, n’est-ce pas?

      it’s actually brilliant, but hard work, like anything worthwhile. go for it!

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      • Miss-B

        Thanks ladies. I know it’s got to be good – why else would people go back for more, you’re right – but I often find (like a lot of other aspects of our lives) we focus on the negatives when we write … so it’s hard to make the decision that YES I am ready.

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        • shanny

          you’ll never say “i wish i’d NEVER done it”. you may very well say “i wish i could do what i was doing before”, or “i wish i could be doing something else right now.” but never the former.

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    • Jan

      It is so worth it. A lot of the negative you hear from parents is the droll way of them getting through each day. There is nothing better than the first smile, word, day of school, “I missed you mummy!”, etc. even (as was my case) the baby blues because it let me know that I loved my baby & we would get through.
      Dirty nappies are gross, but it is funny the first time a boy wee’s in your face at change time, even though it’s truly gross! Trust me for every negative, there are a thousand positives.
      But, I think some of what you are reading as negative is also reality. The reality is parenting is not glamorous like the magazines portray, the reality is many 1st time mums bounce back to pre-pregnancy weight with out doing a thing while others can’t shift the weight without working out a lot more than time allows. The reality is some babies sleep through & others wake every 20mins. The reality is sometimes you discover your partner is not doing all you thought they would & others discover a partner everyone wishes they had.
      I love being a mum but there are days (some last as long as the Christmas hols & others for a moment) when I think how much easier without children. But then they do something so totally normal (rarely is it amazing, but it feels it) & I’m reminded of what I love about being a parent.
      Surround yourself with positive people & role models, don’t hesitate to ask what the good things are. Trust your instincts when/if you decide to become a parent (as you hopefully do now). I used to say to people (&lots give advice) “thank you so much for caring, I’ll keep that in mind for IF I need it later). Some advice I used, most I didn’t because when I needed the advice, usually there was a friendly face one the other side with helping hands (caring family & friends) not just words, they were also the ones who knew when to back off.
      Mostly if parenthood wasn’t very rewarding at some level, the human race would have died out a long time ago.

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      • contented

        What a fabulous comment! Absolutely agree.

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      • Nadine

        Jan, re the wee in the face.

        Have you seen the pee tee-pees?

        They are cute and useful, although I have to admit I had to think about what it was when I saw it on the shelf!!

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    • Q

      Yes, yes, yes!!!

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  2. becsparrow

    Hi Everyone

    Just a reminder to stick to our dinner party rules … this is meant to be a light-hearted piece. Totally fine to disagree with Katie but please keep it respectful.

    Happy Friday!
    Bec x

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  3. Etta

    I really enjoyed this article.
    having read a fair few of the comments, I believe it’s not new mums that are the hypersensitive ones.

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  4. catgirl

    3. “Are you getting much sleep?” (Asked by morons.) 
It could possibly be the excess hormones wildly rushing through my body that make this question so unpalatable. Although I’m sure you’d agree, this is the most ludicrous thing to ask a new mum.

    Why so? It seems to me that by saying that you don’t want help:/

    I’ve said that to all my friends at one time or another when they are at home with a new baby, and I refuse to accept that I’ve been in the wrong.

    When they have replied that they are exhausted I’ve suggested they try and give the baby another feed and then while I take the baby for a long walk in the pram they (the mother) can grab a nap. When I’ve got back from the walk I’ve managed the baby as long as I could without the baby getting over distressed while the mother has slept.

    I resent being called a moron for doing that by someone who doesn’t know me.

    I had two babies 14 months apart and when my sister-in-law called and asked if I was getting much sleep. If really made a difference to me that when I said “no” she came over and watched the babies plus straighten up a little while I got to have a bit of a sleep.

    Little did I know at the time that by my sister-in-law asking, it made her into a moron…I don’t think that I would have let a moron look after my babies.

    You can probably tell by my comment that I’m feeling peeved at some of the crap that people post.

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    • Miss-B

      This is lovely. I wish my sister-in-law would take me up on my geniune offer to do the same when I know she’s had a tough couple of nights. I think she feels like it would be burdening me – but really – I could do with the walk!

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    • me

      Asking a new mum & then following up with help like you & your sister-in-law is different to just asking the question as a way to make conversation with no concern about the answer.
      I never understood why strangers would ask this question but understand why people who care about me would.

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    • N

      I had a friend who was really really struggling. A phone call went this way

      Me: hi
      Her: crying…

      I moved in for a week.
      I did the day to day stuff, I did the night care, I put the baby on solids and got him in a better sleep routine and I cleaned the house and looked after the two year old.
      She went to the doctor. She went to the shops. She relaxed. She slept.
      A week later she was a new person and back to her old self.

      She started to enjoy her children again.

      I’m glad I was able to help her.

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  5. Chrystal

    OMG these whinging mothers are doing my head in!!!!

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    • Cordeline

      OMG, these people who don’t know how to spot a humorous piece of writing are doing my head in!!!!

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  6. Kate

    Wow. I must remember (as a childless and therefore moronic human) to be very cautious and tip-toe around all those precious new mothers in case I dare say something as offensive as “You look amazing considering you’ve just had a baby”. I realise that motherhood can be difficult and tiring, but surely these questions are not asked with any malice, especially coming from friends?

    Well I have taken the message ‘loud and clear’ – don’t dare talk at all to new mothers in fear of offending them. P.S. I’m sure not all mothers are like this, but articles like this give you guys a bad rap.

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    • catgirl

      I agree with your feelings about the tone of the post.

      I came home with a new born to a 14th month old and I really appreciated my friends coming over and asking me questions and showing an interest in how I was coping. Just someone picking up and holding one of my babies for a while was a bloody blessing.

      “Getting enough sleep Lyn?”
      Shit no…I’ll leave you lot with the babies while I grab a quick hour of sleep…ta muchly”

      If people don’t ask, and you don’t answer, you get no help.

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      • Lana

        Please remember it is a light hearted OPINION piece. You don’t have to agree with it and you certainly should not be offended by it. Remember Katie is a real person and she is reading the comments

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        • Guest

          I’m sure that Katie, if she doesn’t find it offensive to get about referring to women as ‘morons’, will not be offended by what was posted here? Childless humans are real people too!
          Just wasn’t that funny, that’s all…….didn’t do anything to help the cause……it seems obvious from the number of comments that SOMETHING about the article rubbed a lot of people up the wrong way…so could it possibly be it’s tone? Perhaps Katie will appreciate the critical feedback.

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          • Kathy

            Yes! My comment was “edited for tone” when I wasn’t even trying to have a go just voicing my opinion. The writer uses the term childless moron but its “light hearted, tongue in cheek, funny” so its okay but our comments are held to a different standard.

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            • Kate

              Perhaps Mamamia should edit the original post for tone as well. The intent may have been for humour, but the language used (including name-calling) is not funny to people who are just trying to make polite conversation with new mums.

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          • ladybird73

            She didn’t refer to childless humans as morons.

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  7. Rosie

    Oh, and the ‘mother-in-law’ turning up saying “is there anything I can do?”. Excuse the french, but FUCK!!! I was cooking her dinner with a baby on the boob, trying to feed the toddler and the 3 yo, there is a huge basket of ironing, washing to hang out, 10 baskets of clothes to fold…….. She knows I am never going to say anything but “oh no, it’s ok” because I can’t give her orders, but I certainly wouldn’t stop her if she got off her arse and found something to do rather than asking.

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    • Loulee

      I hear ya Rosie. My in-laws arrived when our daughter was 5 weeks old. They stayed for about 7 weeks and for the entire time they sat on their fat bums on the sofa and would offer to hold the baby. That was it. ARRGGGGHHHHH.

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      • Nadine

        Loulee, slightly off topic but not.

        When my mother died my father paid for his sister to fly over from Perth to Sydney as she wanted to come to the funeral but couldn’t afford it.

        As I nursed mum I was also there. I said to a different sister that it might be nice to have Perth sister stay to give dad someone to talk to.

        She sat on her backside the entire time, expecting dad to wait on her. After two days I rang the other sister and a brother ( there are 9 of them!) and said get her out now.

        This woman did nothing, she didn’t even wash up her empty coffee mugs – but she did put a good wool ( albeit wool blend) jacket in the dryer.

        Never again will I allow that situation to occur.

        On a nicer note, a friend had her mum stay after bub’s arrival. She didn’t stop. Washing. Ironing. Cooking. Cleaning. Tidying. Putting baby in pram for a walk so mum can sleep.

        Back to my mum, it saddens me that I will be a motherless mother, that I won’t get to share my child with my mum. That I won’t be able to say mum I need help.

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        • Loulee

          Oh Nadine. I am sorry for your loss. I’m in the same boat at the moment. My gorgeous mum is in the final stages of cancer. We are just keeping her comfortable. She was the wonderful mum just like your friend who came to stay when I had my babies and didn’t stop. She cooked, cleaned, washed, ironed… Even got her to come when the in laws were there to sort them out. I am going to miss her so badly.

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    • Laura

      Er… why not just take her up on the offer?

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      • Rosie

        Simple…..I would feel bad! I have never been able to delegate. And she is always complaining about mysterious ailments followed by…”so I better sit and put my feet up.”

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    • Flickster

      Yes, i feel your frustration. We went on hols with the MIL, she hadn’t seen the kids for 18 months. I (not so subtly) sent the kids over to their cabin one morning (it was 8.45, I knew they were up)” to see nanny and pops”. The In laws sent them back 10 minutes later – “because the kids were hungry!” . Seriously! – well how about FEEDING THEM! thats a novel idea!? The rest of the holiday had the same routine, they were strangely unable to bond / spend any time with the kids. So sad….

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    • Kathy

      I bet there are Mums out there who would be furious if their MIL did just get up and start doing something and they’d say (in their mind) “fuck off if I wanted you to help I’d fucking ask” so how about just considering that your MIL thinks an offer to help might be the safest way to go and isn’t actually trying to make you furious by lending a hand!!!

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      • Steph

        I do have to say, i am one of those mum’s who doesn’t want my MIL helping out. Only because i like things done a certain way and everytime she comes over and does my dishes she spends hours rearranging my kitchen so it is like hers. I then can’t find things for days!! or she tells my Husband how i am not a good wife because I can’t get everything done before he comes home. I’m not just a mother, i am also an anxiety sufferer and both are fulltime jobs! If she wanted to just do the dishes or washing or even mind my daughter so i could nap i would have been happy with that. but she will rearrange things and it takes me days to put them back!!

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      • Rosie

        I see your point, however with all my close friends and our family, no one minds if I see that they are run off the feet, and start folding some washing for them while we try and chat above the chaos. And vice versa. Plus, she has in the past helped out without asking first, and I politely said “thank you very much” (as I really appreciated it). So she knows I don’t mind if she just helps out.

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    • Anonymous

      Why not just say “Sure, it would be great if you could hang out the washing/do the ironing”.

      I’d never just start doing chores in someone else’s home, you never know what someone could be territorial or pedantic about.

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      • Lizi

        Very true!

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      • Rosie

        I just can’t, and I think the reason is because I would feel like a failure because I can’t “do it all”. (In the past she has expressed snide remarks about how I was “going to cope” so I didn’t want to give her the satisfaction!)

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        • Kris2040

          But that’s you putting the pressure on yourself, not her. Why not try it next time she offers and see what happens?

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          • Rosie

            I guess I can try! Honestly though, if you knew her, you would see where I am coming from! It would come back to bite me in the form of more snide remarks!!

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    • Snap!!

      My MIL was like this, she would half heartedly ask if there was anything she could. So one day I thought yep you can help so I asked her to tackle some of the ironing. She ironed for about 20 minutes & only did my husbands work shirts ( which he would normally do anyway). Great, thanks.

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  8. MissV

    I find it so funny that people ask the “what do you do all day?” question.
    I don’t have kids and i work 4 days a week.
    My work day includes: answering a few phones calls (very few for a call centre when fully staffed), writing emails that generally tells potential students where they can find the information, facebooking, blogging, mamamiaing, personal emails and sorting out my life basically.
    Yet no one, when they’ve asked what i do, has asked me for a break down of my day.

    Just because I work doesn’t mean i’m doing the most important, life altering job in the world. Just like i’m sure being a SAHM doesn’t mean they don’t do anything ‘worthwhile’

    xxxmissvxxx.wordpress.com

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    • Nadine

      “My work day includes: ………facebooking, blogging, mamamiaing ………….”

      I’m envious!!

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  9. Lizi

    Hilarious! Would like to add that not all childless people are insensitive enough to ask these questions – speaking from personal experience, I’ve learned not to over the last year or so of reading MM. :-)

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  10. Sallly

    My father in law ‘are u still pregnant’ a day after I gave birth. Prick!

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    • Ally

      My dad said this to my sister in law, two days after giving birth! Mum and I were momentarily mortified until she replied ‘yeah and when is yours due?’ and pointed at my dads middle age spread. Served him right!

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    • mamaruns

      Mine found it funny to say the same to me… and to his own daughter who has had her share of eating disorders. He’s a lovely man but its like his brain doesn’t engage sometimes….!

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    • Nadine

      Many men (and women) think that baby comes out, everything automatically goes back to normal pre-pregnant positions.

      I was really surprised at how many people asked about this. It just never occurred to them that it might take time. Generally there was no malice in the question, just confusion.

      Often women play a part in the confusion.

      One husband said that his wife’s best friend had always said that she left hospital ( on day 2) in her size 8 jeans, so he thought it meant baby out, stomach in and flat. He didn’t realize that she still had the tummy.

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  11. Caring is sharing

    Im 23 weeks prgnant and A collegue at work told me that I must be having a girl because in her culture a baby girl robs the mother of her beauty and I looked tired and drawn!! As it happens I am having a girl but could have done without the comment!!
    Have also had people “not realize” I was pregnant despite the basketball round tummy …. So just looked like I’ve put on weight then????

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    • Kate was in TO

      Im 20 weeks preg today… just found out im having a boy…. FYI i look like shit :) Fun times!

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    • C

      Snorted when I read this. WTF? How do you come back to that one?!

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    • shanny

      i used to say, well, women don’t put on weight exclusively on their tummy, that’s men, so maybe if this huge beach ball was on my arse….

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    • Anja

      “Not realise that you’re pregnant” – Bahaha! After my daughter was born My next door neighbour told me I was a “cheeky minx” for not telling her I was having a baby… We had an hour long face-to-face conversation 3 DAYS before my daughter was born…

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    • girly

      Wow, that’s really cruel.

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    • ladybird73

      My next door neighbour caught me out the front of my house when I was about 32 weeks and said ‘oh wow, look at you, you’re an elephant’.
      Nice.

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    • Faybian

      So in this woman’s culture sexism clearly begins before a baby girl is even born! WTF? Don’t we get enough sh*t after we’re born?

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    • Michelle

      I don’t notice/realise when people are pregnant, unless they’re at the about-to-pop stage. I think it’s a combination of just not caring, and trying not to offend them in case they really have just got fat lol.

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  12. Rosie

    Funny! Love it. And I don’t think anyone else can have a go at the writer for what questions she finds offensive?? Some of the things she said I don’t find annoying, yet their are many others questions I do! But it’s not up to us to blast her for it. It’s her piece of writing and her feelings, afterall.
    Personally, I got sick of all the comments about my size. So much so i started lying about my due date (shaving 6 weeks off it and their eyes STILL fell out of their sockets!) No wonder new mums feel pressure to drop the weight straight away.

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  13. Bec

    Asking some lazy parents ‘what do you do all day’ may be perfectly valid. I know someone who is at home all day every day, her 3 and a half year old can’t even use a potty, the house is never clean, and they sleep a lot of the time. Yet, they can never turn up to anything on time – go figure? Maybe, just maybe, there is some validity in people’s questioning. .

    [comment edited for tone - Mamamia]

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    • Kate

      Sancti-mummies are everywhere. We are in the age of the Mummy blogger. Shame, because there are some great article on Mamamia when you can wade through the dirty nappy posts.
      *stabs self in eye*

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    • Anonymous

      I have asked a friend this before, purely out of curiousity. Her two kids were in high school, and were pretty independent (eg. they caught the tram to their after-school activities, made their own breakfast, lunches and sometimes dinner etc.). Yet she always made a big deal of the fact that she was so busy she hadn’t seen a movie in years, hadn’t had time to go to the gym for months, didn’t have time for a hobby and so on. Her answer was basically just a list of things everyone has to do. Grocery shopping, washing clothes, cleaning etc. Her husband is great, and I know he does at least half the inside chores, as well as all the financial stuff and all the gardening/outdoor chores. I do believe she feels run off her feet, but some people just aren’t great at managing their time.

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  14. CJ

    My ‘favourite’ question after having twins was “Are you pregnant”?

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  15. Anonymous

    I have to say, as someone without kids – articles like this are really quite frustrating and insulting. Every week I read a new article on mamamia and then wonder if I’ve offended countless friends by doing or saying the “wrong” thing about parenting/babies/breastfeeding etc. Oh no, I visited at the hospital, that’s rude. Oh no, I asked about her sleep… crap, that’s rude.

    Really, life is accepting differences and opening our minds. People aren’t just going to fit neatly into your expectations all the time. And I’m sure when you were childless you may have made an ill-informed comment.

    I know it’s a lighthearted article. But I think collectively it really says something about who we are these days… myself included for being offended.

    Everyone needs to lighten up.

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    • Adriana

      This is so true!

      I am not offended at the posts or anything, and I even enjoy some of them – but I really do hope these people realise that we are not trying to insult them!

      Sometimes it is like you can’t win – you ask too many questions about the baby, or not enough…you want to visit at the hospital coz you’re excited…but then apparently that’s rude!? The list goes on and on. People are only trying to be nice – most of the time!

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    • Helen

      Hear hear. Suddenly making a caring comment (“so are you getting much sleep?”) is a faux pas? We KNOW you’re not – it’s simply a friendly gambit designed to indicate empathy. And “childless humans”? Please.

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      • susie

        I know this was just an article for the sake of an article but I am tiring of the bubble of precious-ness around new mums. Approach with care. I have 3 of my own, it happens everyday, so much self-reflecting and over thinking going on.

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        • Diana The Huntress

          Completely agree. You didn’t just scale Everest or birth the messiah. Yeesh.

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    • Lana

      It is lighthearted as you mention but it is also an opinion piece not an instruction manual. It’s open to discussion and remember that you are always welcome to submit your own contributions :-)

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    • Kris2040

      Don’t take it so personally, you know your friends and what they will or won’t be comfortable with. It’s one person writing about her thoughts!

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  16. flutter

    My personal favourite whilse feeding my hungry 8 week old wth a bottle of formula that I prepared (so it was obvious it was formula and not breasmilk) “have you tried breastfeeding?” and then with the condescending head tilt “Breast IS best”.
    No shit sherlock.
    I just bundled up my baby and burst into tears. I had been through hell and back trying to feed my child who turned out could not feed due to mouth shape (??) and had been to daily breastfeeding support classes and had every person on earth shoving my boob at the baby and visa versa…
    So moral of the story – don’t judge a new mum.

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    • Jan

      Looking after your baby is best and good on you for bottle feeding. I had difficulty with my second & my friends mum said to her (she didn’t want to offend me) that often its harder with the second because life is so different. My friend told me this gently, I visited my baby nurse & within a week he was on the bottle. I gave my friends mum a huge hug when I saw her next because I’d been save weeks/months of heartache.
      Every baby is different & as soon as we start saying “What is best for the baby is a healthy, low stress environment with parents who are managing” instead of other negative comments we’ll be a better society.
      (p.s. as for the whole smarts thing – its nonsense – my two boys have the same IQ 1 breast, 1 bottle – go figure!)

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  17. Knocked up

    I get freakin annoyed with pregnancy/baby attention I have to admit…although I know it’s people just caring. Nonetheless I find it irritating that people find you more interesting just because you’re pregnant or given birth. Why didn’t they ask how I was before? I find it odd…

    Also ‘mother-in-law’ likes to make out that because i’m having a boy that it will look and be exactly like my partner. So much so that she shoved 30 baby pics in my face at a restaurant to show me what I should expect. This followed by about 10 stories of my partner as a baby/toddler all of which I have heard before. God it shits me…..the baby will be part of ME TOO!!!!

    This may be pregnancy hormones but i felt she was taking ownership of the baby. I just want to scream at her sometimes…..

    ARGHHHHH!!!!

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    • Michelle

      I think it just sounds like she is excited.

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      • Knocked Up

        You’re probably right – i shouldn’t get so worked up.

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        • Mickie

          haha, wait until your baby starts doing stuff, you will hear all about how much the child takes after some member of her family

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    • Sqoo

      Oh ummm…..how do I say this…….I have two boys, both grown up now and I know that genetically they are 50% me but they look like their dad, they talk like their dad and they have his lovely, quiet intelligence. Seriously, if I hadn’t been there actually giving birth to them and raised them I’d swear you wouldn’t think I’d had anything to do with them. On the positive side, I adore their father……and the coolest bit….my bitch of a MIL lives on the other side of the world. Lol

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      • Faybian

        I know what you mean with one of my kids, she is like the female version of her dad. She is a gorgeous girl on the cusp of her teenage years, a very exciting time for her. My son is a lot like my ex in appearance and my oldest and youngest like me in appearance. My oldest girl last night got told to keep her hair blond, as it is one thing different to me.

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  18. Newbie

    My favourite question that I was asked from when bub was about 3 weeks old, “Are you enjoying motherhood?”. Look, I loved my little one more than anything in the world but swapping my old life for one where I didn’t have time to shower or have breakfast, was hard to enjoy. Of course, I knew that the people were only being polite so I answered with a smile but still told them the reality of the situation. It is hard to enjoy something that is a complete shock to the system!

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  19. Jess

    Unless one has children of their own it’s best not to ask questions or offer advice. It is one of those things that unless you’ve been through it, you truly do not understand what it’s all about. Sleep deprivation & hormones affects the best of us, so instead of being offended for “just asking a question” or “just offering some advice you read somewhere”, just remember that a new parent is going through one of the biggest physical and emotional changes of their life! Ask them if you can walk their dog, hold baby so they can have a nice shower, make them a nice hot drink etc : )

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    • Alexandra

      Ok – so if you don’t have children you’re not allowed to ask other parents questions. What sort of crazy talk is that? How are the people without kids supposed to learn, not only for their own use for later down the track but just for general knowledge?

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      • Jess

        I actually meant to say (mental note read before posting) don’t give advice and don’ts ask anything other than the general how are you going kinda questions. TRUST me when I say brand new parents are tired and really sensitive. They will eventually get better…lol Of course ask people with kids for advice, I just don’t recommend doing it to new parents….they are fumbling through it for the first time.

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    • Moron

      Far out….I giggled when I read this. Can I walk your dog?! No thanks!! Walk your own damn dog.
      Some parents would benefit from a bit of advice sometimes! I have a friend who shoves her three year old…and now one year old in front of the telly/iPad/computer all day every day….and I feel like telling her that “actually”…there are guidelines for the amount of screen time for toddlers and babies…..but you know…heaven forbid I mention anything like that, or the FACT that their neural pathways are being permanently altered by the flickering images flashing in front of them all day long….oh hell no…..she’s a MUM! She’d know all about that! I keep my mouth closed…..their her kids..but I feel sorry for them, knowing she’s making decisions that are not good for their health. Maybe it would be to some parents (children’s) benefit to have an understanding that just because they became a parent, doesn’t mean they know everything about what’s best for children.

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      • Diana The Huntress

        Except with the “parent as saint” types (which isn’t all parents, of course) the dog will get ignored or rehomed because “we have a BABY now. We don’t have time!” Seen it time and time again.

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      • Jess

        Yeah there are parents out there who we don’t agree with what they do, but it’s not for anyone else to say. Also I try and find proactive ways of helping friends so yeah, it would be bloomin helpful to have someone walk your dog, when your exhausted and stressed because your new child is taking up all of your time. I would offer to take your friends children to the park, maybe there is a reason she puts them in front of the tv, maybe she is overwhelmed? It’s not condescending, it’s not patronising……the truth is unless you’ve had kids….you really don’t know what it’s all about. It was a light hearted article and I think I gave a pretty light hearted, non aggressive opinion so would appreciate the same : )

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        • Non dog walker

          Like I said, I was giggling!
          No aggression here, just stating my opinion, as you were.
          Have a great weekend!

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  20. oddsocks

    A good friend of mine came to meet my firstborn when he was 6 weeks old….. we sat down to have a cuppa and she said “so what is it like to be a kept woman”? I still feel annoyed and cranky about this almost 4yrs later!

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    • Jan

      I’m sorry, I laughed when I read this. I think I would have said something like ‘brilliant, I love washing socks, sheets, nappies, etc, why don’t you join me for a day & I’ll pay you while I get a facial’
      Don’t hold onto the grudge, know that karma is a bitch. Mostly know that if that is there opinion, then at least as a ‘kept woman’ you’re making sure your bub is the best kept bub you can possibly raise.
      Let go of the negative & enjoy your child…

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  21. Deni

    At least people are asking about you. (Most probably dont actually care about how you’re breastfeeding etc and dont want to hear that over their lunch). With question 3, I have asked that. I dont have a baby. Obviously we know you’re sleep deprived, blah blah blah, whinge whinge whinge, but it’s just really asking how bad it is, we know they won’t sleep 9 till 9, we’re just asking. All babies are different. If you don’t have a baby, you don’t really know. it’s as simple as that. No need to use the “moron” tag.

    [comment edited for tone - Mamamia]

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    • Faybian

      This never happened until the yumi stynes post. Possibly as a result of the vitriol that attracted??? A lot of the 1000 odd comments were nasty, just like yours.
      It’s not your site, they can moderate or edit as they like. They’re not the only site to. They’re just more proactive about it and I think helps keep a lid on on the nastiness.

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  22. Alexandra

    I found this article really disappointing even though I was really looking forward to another article from Katie (loved you on the drive show on Nova even though Whippa and Ryan drove you nuts) and an update on Baxter. Sorry, it just comes off as ‘holier than thou’ because you’re all of a sudden a parenting expert which makes me a ‘childless human’ and ‘moron’. I’ll definitely take this advice on board next time a friend has a baby.

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  23. Mum of 3

    I really enjoyed this article but I am shocked at some of the comments. When did we all start taking everything so persoanally? What I love about this site is that people can voice things about how they feel about a situation and that will always resonate with some more than others. It is simply her voice on the questions that cause her grief and I think she has the right to say them without others taking as a personal affront.

    My husband actually has a real problem in line with number two where people make comments to him. When I travel sometimes for work, everyone tells him how wonderful he is to ‘look after the kids’ whilst I am away and he really hates that. He tells them they are his kids!!! I appreciate that as noone tells me I am wonderful for ‘looking after them’ when he works long hours!

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    • Ruby Wildflower

      I think it was when she called us morons that we started taking it so personally?

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  24. Katyberry

    I think that this is a fun, lighthearted post, and I have enjoyed it as such.

    I think that we all vent sometimes about things that drive us crazy, even though deep down we know that we are being a bit frivolous and mean towards people that don’t necessarily deserve it.

    If I got the sense that Monty would really hate me for asking some of these questions, without any thought to my friendly motives, then I wouldn’t think that she was worth the time of day – but I don’t, I think that she is just having some fun.

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  25. Wife

    Yep – the dad babysitting bit has given me the shits for years. I don’t get pats on the back for babysitting 24 hours a day, 7 days a week (add being a chef, personal shopper, cleaner, chauffer, 3 days a week paid in the office) to Junior while husband works away almost permanently. Yet the one time I went out with friends for a couple of hours after junior had gone to sleep, my husband was transformed into Saint Babysitter of the highest order by friends.

    Fuck off.

    The other question that shits me to tears is the good old, “Are you STILL feeding?”.

    “Yes, I am still forcing my nipples into my 15month old sons mouth against his will. Why’s that?”

    Conversation ends there.

    They too can Fuck Off.

    My almost 16yr old daughter was one of those annoyingly “perfect” babies. Topped the scales in the ward so I was always smuggly able to answer the “how big was she” question, slept a solid 7 hours after a few weeks, was never found screaming on the floor in the middle of woolies but rather, sat happily in the trolley chomping on raw vegies, then would sit at the checkout reading the books and magazines. She is now resembling the whore of babylon, dropped out of school and has little to no prospects. I’m infact now steeping every piece of linen in the house in hot water while managing a recurring bout of weeping boils on her legs that would be due to bug she’s picked up apparently. I think the doctor was just being polite and didn’t want to say she’s a manky hoe who needs to drink less and shower more. She is snoring on the couch.

    Yet my sweet little 15mth old cherub thinks 4.45am is an acceptable waking time, regardless of the fact he’s probably woken up 4 times through out the night, isn’t just a fussy solids eater but flatly refuses 95% of the time (at home – is sometimes not too bad at daycare) to even try food, complete with the hand up, head shaking and a very clear no. Such a clever boy. And if it wasn’t for the fact I could see it coming and cushing his fall, would have severy head trauma by now with the amount of times he’s thrown himself backwards in a fit of indignant rage.

    So I’m looking forward to him being an almost perfect teenager :)

    Not sure of the relevance of this post to the one I’m commenting on, but I feel better.

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    • daughtersisterwifemother

      OH MY GOD …………………

      THIS IS SOOOO FUNNY!

      This would have to be one of the BEST comments I have read on this site in the last month…..

      THANK YOU.. THANK YOU.. THANK YOU…

      You have made my week!

      I have just endured the week from hell and you have literally just had me laughing with tears rolling down my face ….

      Ps – find a catholic priest for your daughter, stock up on the holy water and start throwing it around the house while the priest chants!

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    • LKW

      Wife – you are hillarious! Love your description of your daughter – priceless!

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    • MJ

      You are hilarious!

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    • Loulee

      Thanks Wife. F****** hilarious. As I read your post the voice of the blonde bridesmaid from Bridesmaids who has three sons kept popping into my mind!

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    • C

      YOU should write a column for Mamamia! Loved it. :)

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    • Mother of 2

      Very funny!

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    • Gabrielle

      I like you :)

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    • rose

      Thats awesome. Love ur honesty and the fact that u say it how it is.

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    • Nadine

      Fingers crossed he is a studious, hard working teenager for you.

      The teenager who becomes a hardworking adult who makes millions and takes care of his mum.

      I have read many times (and I think heard -on sex and the city no less) that the following is true:

      Perfect wedding day, crappy marriage.
      Wedding day with issues, great marriage,
      Wedding day from hell, best marriage ever!

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    • Anonymous

      @WIFE I think I love you!

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    • Faybian

      OMG, love it!
      My oldest was like your oldest and turned feral at about 17 (roughly the time you can get your drivers licence in Qld). Put us and her body through hell for a few years and is now in her 3rd year of uni, living with a lovely guy in their own house and cleaner living than my husband. It CAN change!
      Now we just have to live through my son’s dramas. I think we’ve turned a corner, but the way he looks after his teeth and general health appalls me.

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    • Em

      Absolutely masterful!!! So true. Whore of Babylon & snoring on couch are my favorite lines ever. Up there with Marquez and Toni Morrison. Also poets.

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  26. zabie

    I learned the hard way how careful to be around new first time parents when remarking on anything baby/pregnancy related, when some friends of ours had their first baby a couple of years ago. With them being the first out of my friends to have one, I was really excited for them and interested, but not very practiced in quite what to say or ask and I definitely put my foot in it a couple of times.

    For example I made the mistake of excitedly asking the father to-be the day or so after the expected due date, whether the baby had arrived. He was on facebook chat at the time, so (I presumed) up for conversation and inquiries but I got my head bitten off. Him: “Are you stupid?? Do you think I would be sitting here on facebook if it had? ” Oops. No.

    Then a few weeks after the baby was born, on facebook chat again . Me “so how is baby?” Him: “she is here next to me, crying” Me: “oh.Why is she crying?” (asking out of curiosity! Thinking he might say “oh well she needs a feed soon” or something). Him: “umm lets think..because she is a BABY??” Ah. yes. Sorry I asked.

    And again I inadvertently offended when I visited them and the baby for the first time, and asked (out of curiosity) why the baby made a funny gurgling sound when she breathed…they seemed to take that as some sort of implication that she wasn’t healthy and gave some haughty, abrupt response.

    It was their first baby so I can understand it was an anxious time for them. But I was only trying to show interest. I think there has to be a bit of understanding on both sides. Anyway I’ve learnt my lesson now, to limit comments to “oh she is gorgeous! You look great!” and not ask anything that could be taken the wrong way.

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    • Katyberry

      I’m hoping that these responses really were just due to being totally stressed out, otherwise your friends sound plain old horrid!

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      • zabie

        I think it was the former, because usually they are nice! They were just hyper hyper sensitive when it came to the baby, presumably out of tiredness and stress.

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    • MissKate

      Oh dear..your friends sound really annoying! …And I think they could also be totally boring :)

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    • Cate

      your friends sound horrid actually

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  27. Anon

    At 35wks I went into the bank today and was asked how long before baby is due. I responded with 5 wks.
    “wow, 5 weeks? You look like you could go any minute”
    Really? Was that necessary? Wouldn’t a “well good luck with that” or “congratulations” have done the trick?
    The thing is- you wouldn’t dare comment on a strangers weight if they weren’t pregnant, so please don’t comment when they are.
    I’ve had a really mixed preg this time- some absolutely lovely colleagues, strangers & friends showing interest/encouragement, but then on the other hand quite a few family, colleagues & strangers commenting on my size/shape.
    Everyone carries a baby differently & to be completely honest when u have preg hormones running rampant & your body is being oggled by every person you meet, you do get a bit sensitive.
    If you haven’t got anything nice to say…

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    • Jess Mackenzie

      Oh this happened to me…I was 6 months along and a shop assistant asked how long until I was due. When I told her she remarked ” WOW, thats going to be one big baby”. I walked outside and burst into tears!

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    • Alexandra

      Hmmm – sounds like the person in the bank is just straight up rude. You should have asked when their baby was due. Regardless of their gender!

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    • oddsocks

      Happened to me too.. I was only 26 weeks in. When I told her she said “OMG I am pregnant too and hope I am nowhere near as big as that by 26weeks”. She was a sales assistant at a kids toyshop.
      I think this would have got to anyone but given that I was majorly anxious about having another big baby (the previous bub was 5kgs) I literally cried for about a week over it. Anyway, bub is born now and was a perfectly sized 3.9kg baby.
      Good luck with everything Anon!

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    • Narn

      I feel your pain! Being on the vertically challenged side I get told I must be due any day from roughly the 20 week mark, when I correct the person/people and say that I’m actually only half way I nearly always get the same response ‘that must be wrong, you are going to pop any day!’ just what one wants to hear – NOT! Some people even have the hide to say ‘you should get another opinion!’ Like my Ob & numerous medical practitioners one has to see during pregnancy would be wrong over some random stranger on the street! 16 weeks pregnant with #2 & it’s already started…. Give me strength! PS: & NO you can’t touch my belly!

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    • Anon

      I’m currently 31 weeks pregnant and, as I work as a pediatric oncology nurse, am constantly surrounded by other parents. We get to build up a good rapport with our families because their kids are ‘frequent flyers’ in the hospital. I’m constantly being told I was huge, asked if I was sure there is only one in there, or having objects blocking the bed dragged out of my way in an exaggerated fashion. It makes me want to cry in frustration. Worse still is the assumption that I’m incapable of doing my job simply because I’m pregnant. Grrr!

      Other things that really get to me is the question ‘was it planned?!’ on announcing our pregnancy (fine, my partner and I aren’t married but we have been together for 5 years and frankly, the question is plain rude!), touching without being invited, asking me about the nitty gritty details of my doctors appointments (surprisingly, I’m no more enthusiastic about telling you that some guy had his hand up my Hoo ha because I’m pregnant than if I were simply having a pap smear) asking me about our name choices, and expressing disbelief that I genuinely don’t know what I’m having. A modicum of common sense and manners really should prevail. If you wouldn’t say it to or ask it of someone who isn’t pregnant, then it probably shouldn’t be said.

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    • B's Mummy

      I was 34 weeks pregnant and at a video store when an employee asked me how long I had to go. I said 5 weeks and she said “oh really you look ready to pop.” I just smiled and then she asked if I was over it so I answered honestly with “no I love being pregnant” and THEN she started to talk about how her sister was my size at 40 weeks when she gave birth and she was really fat. But she seemed to think that was a compliment.

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      • LJG

        I, on the other hand, was quite petite when I was pregnant with both of my kids. I’m 6 foot tall and my doctor told me i had a long torso to fill, hence not showing so much. But I had strangers in the shops asking me if I was sure I was eating enough? Was there something wrong with the baby that it wasnt growing? I felt I had to justify why I was the size I was and assure ppl that I am eating correctly and it’s just genetics (my mum carried myself and my two sisters the same). But like when your told your belly is huge, I was so self concious every time someone commented about my not so big belly. Everyone comes in different shapes and sizes and so do pregnant bellies and babies! We need to judge everyone less, pregnant or not!

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        • Anon

          Ha ha, would you believe I’m actually 6ft aswell, and with my first pregnancy I got the same (you’re quite small). Worst thing was that I actually went through a slow growth phase and had to have extra scans to check all was ok. Bub was 3.7kg when born and OB is estimating this one will be 3.9kg. I’m carrying exactly the same as last time but for some reason people feel the need to tell me how much bigger I am this time.

          Oh well, clearly she didn’t offend me enough to stop me eating 3 rows of cadbury caramello chocolate just now! ;)

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  28. Kelly

    adding a little to question 1……your partner gets home from work, looks at you still in your PJs, a house that looks like a bomb has hit it and a screaming baby hanging off your boob, and he has the gall to ask “What have you done all day?” Arrrrrrrrrrgggggghhhhh!! Omg if looks could kill……….
    I think that is even more insulting than if the question comes from someone that hasn’t had kids yet.

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    • Anonymous

      It’s even better if it is your FIL saying to your own mother that you obviously don’t like to do anything around the house : (

      Awesome when your mum points out that bringing the child up is first priority.

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  29. Bianca

    Love it Monty. Spot on.

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  30. Anna

    I’m pregnant and I never realised how weird it is having ppl comment on your body. So I totally understand!

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  31. Victoria

    So over people asking “how’s he sleeping?”

    Like a fricken BABY, you moron! Babies aren’t supposed to sleep through the night. He wakes up, I pull him into bed with me, put him on the boob and we go back to sleep.

    I’m not sure how to answer that question though, and I get it ALL THE TIME! I’d rather people asked “how’s he feeding?”

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    • Jules

      “Like a fricken BABY, you moron!”

      Not everybody knows that babies aren’t supposed to sleep through the night… I didn’t until very recently… I also didn’t know that babies got fed during the night, I thought they got 3 meals a day like the rest of us.

      Sooo sorry that we (meaning, all us “morons” who ask well meaning questions about things we don’t know much about) don’t ask the questions you think we should ask… perhaps we’ll just talk about the weather or the latest footy results next time and totally ignore the fact that you even have a child.

      Real nice.

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      • Ruby Wildflower

        Here here. Get some real f*cking problems. “Oh my God, people are interested in me and my baby!”

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        • Mel C

          That’s RUDE, Ruby Wildflower. Really rude.

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      • Anonymous

        Actually I’m a mother of two and I ask this question. What I want to know is what sleep pattern bub has at the moment – 2 hours sleep and 1 hour feed/settling? 5 hour block of solid sleep? 30 minutes sleep at a time and rest is crying/feeding time? Erratic/all over the place?
        It is my way of finding out how much sleep mum is actually getting.

        So when you say ‘like a fricken baby’ you are assuming that either: a) everyone knows what a baby’s sleep pattern is like; and/or
        b) all babies have the same sleep pattern (and that everyone knows what this sleep pattern is)
        And if (and only if) either or both of the above is true then thinking that this is a stupid question is justified.

        You can apply your view on the sleep question to your feeding question: “how is the baby feeding?”, “Like a Fricken baby, you moron”

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        • Faybian

          Thats why I ask that question, so you can find out exactly how the baby IS sleeping and I deal with baby’s sleeping patterns regularly.
          Can’t help someone when you have no detail.

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      • Jenny

        I never got offended either with this question but that may have been cos baby was sleeping through by 3 months :p have been asked if I’d had the baby yet when she was 2 weeks old that one got me!

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    • Fricken Moron

      Well I think this is just rude.

      I think the majority of people ask because they believe it to be a polite enquiry. I can only assume that before you had a child, you knew the intricate details of how a baby sleeps, because you probably read that book “What to expect when you’re expecting” or something like that.

      After reading all these comments, I do not think I’ll need to ask anything of any new mothers…..I think I’ll just say “Hey……congratulations,” and then keep my questions for google.

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      • SusieQ

        I wasn’t upset when ppl asked me questions – I thought it was lovely they were interested. No matter what u ask some pregnant women they will be offended! I agree it’s best to keep it generic unless they are a good friend. Oh and I always ask how baby is sleeping as I know how hard sleep dep is and I found talking about bubs sleep and finding out how normal it was really helped!
        Ps. Monty – welcome back! I loved listening to u on Ryan, Monty & Wippa!!

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        • Anonymous

          I actually rarely get offended as a Mum. I loved being HUGE when I was pregnant with both my babies, I embraced it and felt proud of my body. I love it also when people ask me questions about my children, because I love taking about them and brainstorming solutions to the never ending conundrums. Makes me feel normal!
          Yes, husbands can be clueless sometimes, but I have learnt to laugh at him now, because only another Mum could truly understand. Hence, the comradery over this article!

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  32. redfred

    Well, thanks for assuming that we “childless humans” are complete and utter morons. And while we’re at it, thanks for the condescending phrase “childless humans”. Because those of us who don’t (or can’t) have children really love being excluded and patronised by those of you who have been fortunate enough to have babies.

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    • Anna

      Mate, she was obviously being tongue in cheek. I (a childless human) thought it was hilarious!

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      • Laura

        I’m so glad that somebody said that! This is the first mammamia blog that has had my blood boiling. Im disgusted! Yes we ‘childless humans’, fathers and the general public who are not as lucky as this author to have the privilege of having a child or be in her shoes can ask some questions that are taken the wrong way or make comments that are not ment to be rude harsh or mean but after reading this article and the following comments I realize its how the comment is received that is the issue.

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    • Kate

      I agree. A friend of mine was told she will never understand love at a visceral level because she doesn’t have children. My friend didn’t tell her she tried and couldn’t have children.
      Sanctimummies and Smugmies are annoying.

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      • Katie

        Hear, hear!

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      • childless

        Sanctimummies! I love it!

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  33. Mother of 2

    This article had me laughing out loud. Very funny and well written. Why does everyone have to take things so seriously? i was genuinely shocked when i started reading the comments after the article. Lighten up people!

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    • Anonymous

      Agreed! Relax people!

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  34. JL

    I don think i would get offended by someone asking me if i was getting enough sleep! it just seems like the person is caring and concerned and hopes you are getting some sleep! I got enough sleep, as i bottle fed and my husband was able to share with feeding through the night. So if someone asked this i wouldnt think much of it except that the person is asking out of curiosity and concern..no big deal!
    The father asking to babysit thing would shit me to tears though…i dont understand this, and i cant stand when i hear it!
    If someone said i look amazing for someone who just had a baby i think i would still feel complimented! You do look like shit after having a baby, so if you do look good and someone says anything then thats lovely!

    They things i dont like hearing are more personal stabs…like my Idiot uncle who has no common sense, coming into teh hospital room and asking ‘why the hell would u name him that?”
    or the nosey older woman at the grocery store making me cry cos she asked “why would u feed your child that poison, what kind of mother are you” when i was buy formula for my son at 7 weeks! These questions i dont want to hear!

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    • Anonymous

      “or the nosey older woman at the grocery store making me cry cos she asked “why would u feed your child that poison, what kind of mother are you” ”

      Same thing happened to me – I cried too….:-(

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      • JL

        ha…there must be an old lady brigade that hang around the formula isle waiting to make new mums cry, it happened to someone else i know as well. I was on crutches trying to push my baby in my pram in so much pain, and this woman just appeared basically to tell me i was a bad parent….i lost it…and she just looked at me and walked away! God i wish she would say it to me now while I have agro pregnancy hormones….i would LOVE to tell these nosey pains in the asses what i really think! haha

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      • Anon

        I had that happen to me but on the wrong end of sleep deprivation – I toldthe nosey old cow in my sweetest voice – because I have no milk and if I don’t feed him something he’ll die. Would that be preferable to u?? She couldn’t look at me after that And i’m pretty sure she will think twice before she attacks another new mum.

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  35. Mel

    I hated being given unasked for advice, especially from people who had no idea of what its like. Also hated being pushed aside so everyone could get to bub and being asked how bub was, but no questions about how I was!! Hormones and sleep deprivation can just wreak havoc, no matter how much you love your little one..
    And congrats Monty on your bubba!!

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  36. Anonymous

    I agree that I don’t have a problem with Q’s 3 & 4. I reckon the worst question is “Making plans for the next baby?” !

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  37. The Original Steph

    I *wish* someone had asked me if I’m getting enough sleep. Instead, I had a certain person asking me, when my newborn was 10 days old and I was sick as a dog with mastitis, if my HUSBAND was getting enough sleep.
    Oooh, if looks could kill….

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    • JL

      now THIS would piss me off! i hope your glares burnt a hole in their ass!

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  38. hey

    Monty when did you have a baby?…sorry in SA we didn’t get that announcement. Congrats!

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  39. Ella

    I have always wondered what mothers do all day… not in the sense that I think they’re getting their hair done, but what do mothers do *with* their children all day? How do you keep them entertained? There are only so many times you can go to the park…. I’m not trying to be condescending, just genuinely curious…

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    • Hey

      There’s feeding which generally takes an hour each time – and babes need feeding every 4 hours…and that’s 4 hours from when you STARTED the last feed. There is of course nappy changes, washing the very many clothes the baby gets through and then of course sleep. On a good day it will take 1/2 and hour to get your baby to sleep each time, on a bad day it could take 3 hours – you need to teach a baby to sleep, which takes quite a lot of skill and effort. Many drs appointments, going to the park and then of course the standard stuff, cleaning the house, cooking food, attempting to have a shower. It really is amazing where the time goes!

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      • Alexandra

        See – now that’s actually useful info! I wouldn’t have thought feeding would take that long because I can wolf down a meal in 10 minutes so assumed (because I’m a childless moron) that a new baby could keep up to my speed-eating feats.

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        • Renee

          It’s quite child dependant too. When they are first new, their tummies are very small and can only take in so much food, so they need to be fed every 2-3 hours. And they (and you) are learning how to do it, so that takes time. Often for the first month or so, it can feel like all you do is feed them, as you start one feed, it takes an hour, they spend an hour off the boob, then start again. After a while their tummy grows and you can start stretching the feeds out to 4 hourly; which is about a maximum until they start solids at about 6 months. Then it takes them longer to digest and they can start working towards a ‘normal’ routine. Toddlers still need to eat quite often tho!
          With 4, I’ve had heaps of practice and can multitask; typing while feeding (baby lying on pillow on desk), reading while feeding, entertaining toddler while feeding (reading it books, having cars driven up my legs, etc)…
          First babies (at least in my experience) are the hardest because you have to learn everything and therefore everything is more stressful and takes longer. Subsequent babies tend to be more relaxed (reflecting the parents).
          Regarding nappies. I currently have 2 in nappies, we have about 35 cloth nappies and I do a load of washing every 36 hours (ie morning one day, evening the next, etc). This also takes time (not the washing, a machine does that!), the changing and cleaning takes time. Hanging and folding doesn’t take that much time, especially not when you consider how much folding there is to do in a 6 person household anyway!

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          • Cate

            Thanks for taking the time to respond, interesting reading

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        • Anonymous

          I am a childless human but I am a nurse, and my friend just recently had a baby. It’s like a never ending cycle of breast feeding nappy changing and crying for the first month in some babies.
          My friend is SHATTERED. But happy I think.

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    • Mother of 2

      Genuinely wanting to know what a day with a baby looks like is more than ok and I would think would be graciously responded to. I think its all in how you phrase the question. What do you do all day makes it sound like you have lots of time on your hands, which is (in most cases) far far from the truth.

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      • Rach

        Yes, ‘what do you DO all day?’, as if there’s nothing to do, is likely to get you slapped in the face, by the sounds of it!

        Although, from the tone of some comments here, you may get your head bitten off even from genuine interest! I hope hormones don’t affect me that badly.

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    • oddsocks

      It is probably different for each mum too depending on what ages your kids are. I have a 3yr old, 2yr old and 7month old. So I am feeding the baby every 4 hours, plus preparing him and the older two 3 meals and 2 snacks. Two of my boys are still in nappies. There is endless washing. We usually go out in the mornings (playgroup/park/questacon/indoor play centre/visit friends), then at home in the afternoon I try to entertain them (puzzles/books/craft/cooking/toys) all usually with bub strapped to my chest. While I clean up one mess the toddlers make another. They love each other but they fight like animals and I feel like I spend alot of time yelling too. I described it to a friend the other day that I feel like a bushfire is on its way and I am racing around with a tiny bucket putting out spotfires. It never stops.
      Except, right this second baby is asleep in his cot, and the two boys are watching a cartoon…….. so I am here drinking an icy cold diet coke and writing this.
      Thanks for genuinely asking what we do all day.

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      • HannahintheHills

        Oddsocks you are my hero – that sounds full-on. Bringing back memories from my 2 in 2 years; what helps me now I’m on the school run is that every stage will pass. It will all pass seems to be my motto.

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    • Rebecca

      Great answer Hey. One addit though, packing the baby and/or toddler bag to leave the house!! Nappies, wipes, nappy bags (to put dirty nappy in), bottle, breast pads, bibs, cloth to protect clothes from baby vomit or wipe up said vomit from immediate surroundings, water, snacks, toys, antibacterial gel, and of course the pram/front pack. Have I forgotten anything? I always did.
      Oh, and for those who don’t know, this needs to done every time you leave the house, usually whilst juggling a screaming baby and could all be for a trip to the corner store. Ah, the joy of kids!

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    • B's Mummy

      Hope you don’t mind another perspective. My baby is 9 months old. We get up around 8.00-9.30. She sits in the bathroom playing with toys while I have a shower. Breakfast. Give baby a bath and get her changed. Play. Nap. Lunch. Play. Dinner. Play. Bed around 9.00 PM. I have it pretty easy she mostly likes to crawl around the house and practise walking around furniture so during those moments I clean and cook, etc.

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    • Becxtar

      Sometimes I can’t even make it to the park I’m so busy with my two!!!

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  40. Anon

    Many years ago I was struggling to do the shopping with four small children. An older woman in the lift smiled at me and said, ‘Little children, little problems, big children, big problems.’

    I thought to myself that she must have forgotten how hard it is but twenty odd years later I realise that truer words have never been spoken.

    Enjoy your sleepless nights with your baby safely tucked in your arms.

    Before you know it you’ll be in for sleepless nights when you don’t know where they are, when they won’t answer their mobiles at 6 am even though they said they’d be home by 3. And when you are ready to die from worry.

    And this is just one example of hundreds of hideous scenarios that await you.

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    • B

      Shit. I have 3 under 4 and I thought the “now” was the toughest….

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    • Rebecca

      The ‘now’ is always the toughest. What ever age your kids are.

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      • Mooner

        Rebecca I don’t think a truer word was ever spoken than this! Andd it applies not just to parenthood but every experience. We always think: things will be easier when… and forget to enjoy now.

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    • Anonymous

      I agree.
      Having 4 girls oldest is 16 and then 5,3 and 1
      People always comment on how hard it is with little ones but it is teen years that are much harder!

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  41. Mamafi

    Loved it!! I have both been the asker & recipient of all those questions. Thanks for such a great piece… It’s so important just to be able to laugh when things are tough, a sense of humour is a beautiful gift for your kids. Come on gang, not so serious!

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  42. Jayne

    Woah. Nothing has done more to dissuade me from having children than becoming a regular reader of Mamamia!! Yikes!

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    • Anonymous

      Ah yes, the white middle class females of Australian bitching and moaning about their privilege yet again. So hard to be asked question about your healthy baby and body, probably had in a first rate hospital and going home to help and groceries. Struggle street.
      Posts like this make me want to break my own jaw with a bike lock.

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      • loves2bake

        Have you HAD kids anonymous? I’m all for appreciating our children – I think it’s important, but that doesn’t mean that some aspects of child raising aren’t hard, even if it’s not complicated by third world conditions

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        • Anonymous

          Yes, had kids. Answering questions isn’t hard. Walking two hours for water is or digging a well or being cast out of your village for incontinence is.

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          • loves2bake

            I’m surprised you don’t have more empathy then. I don’t know any mums who have waltzed through the start of any baby’s life (particularly their first) without seriously struggling on some, if not most, days. Sleep deprivation can be used as a form of torture – it isn’t easy to deal with. There are also other difficulties like establishing breast feeding or the constant self-questioning if you are doing the right thing. Throw in the PR needed to deal with some of the things other people say and it can be enough for some mums to throw their hands up in frustration.

            The article is a lighthearted look at some things that can be a huge annoyance for some mums. No, it’s not anywhere near as bad as the problems some others in the world go through. But since when does anyone only ever talk about really serious issues like those? I’m sure you’ve complained about the weather or the traffic or even something your kids had done that annoyed you. How is that any different?

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            • Kris2040

              I think I’ve had probably 2 days where I was a mess because I was tired. KDot and I had some breastfeeding issues, but I just went with “Well this is how it goes” and got on with it.
              I think I’ve probably been lucky that she’s never been a chucker or anything too bad, but still, I just went with it. Haven’t had too many annoying questions, apart from comments on how small she is. But I think that’s because she came out with a TON of hair and hasn’t lost it, paired with her being very engaged and engaging from really little too, I think people think she’s older than she actually is!

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        • Laura

          Because only people who’ve had children have the right to an opinion?

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          • loves2bake

            No of course not, but until you go through a situation it can be difficult to empathise with others in that situation. Sometimes it’s just about trying to survive from one feed to the next. Sounds dire, but for many it is the reality. In my experience you don’t know how hard the early days in particular are until you go through them. And just as you are allowed to have an opinion, I am allowed to disagree with it.

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      • Anonymous

        Please do.

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    • loves2bake

      And there’s nothing like having a child to show you why it is so worthwhile :)

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      • Anonymous

        *Insert smug smile*

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        • loves2bake

          Is this the same Anonymous? For goodness sake, are you just out to troll today? You complain that people are too focussed on what you see as trivial complaints, and when I comment to say that I am glad that I had kids and that it makes going through those ‘trivial’ things worthwhile, you attack that as well. Make up your mind.

          If it’s not the same Anonymous, it’s not about being smug. It’s just reality. There are some parts of child-raising that suck, but when it all balances out it is worth it.

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        • Kylie O

          So if mums complain, they’re white middle class Australians bitching, but if they say how worthwhile motherhood is they’re smug? Seriously, get a life. Can’t win with people like you, you’re out to insult no matter what.

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    • Amy

      Ohhh don’t feel that way! Even though it is difficult, it is absolutely wonderful! But you can feel that way about anything. You may want to be a successful lawyer/actor/doctor/CEO/singer/whatever, but just because someone tells you the negatives it shouldn’t put you off! Anything that makes you happy can also be frustrating at times.

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      • Jayne

        Thanks Amy! I am the youngest child in my family and very few of my friends have had children so far, so I have very little experience of what motherhood will be like except in relation to my own mum (who is amazing).

        My view has definitely been coloured a little by the things I have read on this site. I know motherhood would be an enormous undertaking, but every day I read about some new thing that mothers have to put up with, go through, give up, worry about etc.

        From many of the comments I have read on this site, it also seems like mums (who appear to be quite sane and sensible at other times) also tend to stress about things, judge each other or feel guilty, often needlessly so.

        From the outside looking in it all seems very difficult and competitive. Or something. I may not have articulated this very well.

        I have been married for a few years now so the baby questions are flowing and I am thinking about it a bit more.

        Would love to hear a story about the amazing things about being a mum and how much people love it. Although, I recall when one woman did just that she was shouted down by everyone.

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        • Renee

          Parenting is a competitive sport!!

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        • K

          Hi Jayne,

          I totally get where you are coming from, I used to feel the same way and even made the same comment as you on another post a couple of years ago. There is definitely more negative articles about being a mum on here (and elsewhere) than positive ones, but after becoming a Mum myself, I can tell you it’s not as bad as all the articles make it sound.

          It’s not all sunshine and rainbows, there are some things that are hard and suck, and you will have moments where you winder where you can go to return the baby, but what they don’t tell you is that about a split second after you think the bad things, you look at your baby and think that you wouldn’t trade any of it, even the sucky things, for anything else in the world.

          My baby is 4 months old and there have been tough days but even the tough days are worth it when you look at your bubs. The other night it was 4am and I was trying to get the munchkin back to sleep after a feed, and even though she was crying and I really wanted to get back in bed, I actually thought to myself, “Even though this is not my idea of a good time, I’d rather be doing this than most other things, especially my paid job”. Yeah, my paid job sucks and I don’t want to go back, but I recckon even if you loved your job you’d probably feel the same.

          Don’t let all the negative articles put you off because every one’s experience is different and despite what you read it is the best job in the world. The hard stuff is easy to put up with when you love the little one so much.

          P.S It doesn’t have to be a competitive sport if you don’t want it to be. You just need to ignore those mums who want to make it so and just do your thing and screw what anyone else thinks.

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        • Lee

          Don’t be put off by this site Jayne. Becoming a mum can be a rough ride, and some adjust to the changes easier than others. You do have to give up some things, like the ability to be spontaneous and go out to dinner and a movie. The first few months are difficult, you probably will be very tired, and may find it hard to get anywhere on time for a while, but it gets easier, and can be so rewarding.

          It can be difficult, but help is available, it’s a matter of seeking it out.

          Some mothers can be very competitive, it drives me crazy. I remember at my mothers group, everyone was obsessed about whose baby was sitting, what brand of pram did you have, who loved being a mother more etc. To be honest, at the time, I wasn’t enjoying motherhood in those first few months. Every day was a struggle from feed to feed. Most women in the mothers group was horrified when I said I wasn’t coping, but I wasn’t going to pretend. (Needless to say, I stopped going to that group :) Being open and honest often starts a conversation that allows others a chance to be honest as well.

          I have only been able to have one child, and although I found it very hard going at first, I love her more than anything in this world and I am thankful every day that I have her. She brings me joy, makes me laugh, and gives the best cuddles. I love watching her grow and learn, I love the person that she is becoming, and I wouldn’t change a thing :)

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        • Mother of 2

          Jayne I think a lot of the “whinging” and negative comments from mums on this site are often about having an outlet for frustration & isolation. It’s odd that motherhood can be so isolating as there are so many that have done it before you but often you feel very alone. And motherhood is very challenging & also very rewarding. I love being a mum to my 2 beautiful boys. I struggled to have them & my first nearly died twice in his first months so they are very very precious. But they are also incredibly frustrating & difficult & some days just surviving the day is a struggle! And the way you sometimes cope with that is to whinge about how bloody hard it is to others that might understand. Sometimes your complaints may seem trivial but in that moment they are very real. But I wouldn’t change it for quids!

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        • Q

          Hi Jayne

          It’s funny you mention the article where the woman was shot down for saying how easy she found motherhood – that is exactly how I feel, and don’t mention it to anyone, and often feel pressured to exaggerate the difficulties.

          The fact is, as with every single other thing in life, sometimes it’s easy, sometimes it’s hard; some people find it hard, some have an easier time. And you can’t predict how it will be for you. I work is a lawyer, I have two degreees and would be classed as a ‘high achiever’. I am generally a very stressed person and want to do everything perfectly. And due to that, I thought I would be a very stressed mother. But I’m not. And I have no idea why I’m not, other than maybe it’s because we struggled to have her and had to resort to IVF which caused me a large degree of stress and depression, and because my daughter would be classified as a typical ‘easy’ baby.

          I don’t for a second doubt that it is hard for others, and that is very normal.

          But whether it is hard or easy, whether you are stressed or relaxed, it is worth it so long as that is what you want for your life.

          I think often sites like this are used by people for venting and therefore you get a skewed view.

          But don’t be afraid – if you want to be a mother, it will be wonderful and completely worthwhile.

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          • Me Myself I

            Hi Q
            Nice to know someone else had an easy baby. If I mentioned at baby group that he slept through (and I am talking 9pm to 7am) I was actually told shutup! I learned very quickly no-one wants to hear the good stuff, just the stressful. All he did was sleep!! Still does at 13, bless him! BTW don’t keep in contact with those mums. They weren’t much fun.

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  43. Renee

    I have four kids and have had all the questions. What you need to practice is your “f… off and don’t talk to me” face and thus stop the questions before they start :)

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    • b

      Excellent! I’ll practice my “f off and don’t talk to me” when you want to show off pictures of your little ones or expect me to listen to another story of the “crazy” things they say.

      People ask questions about you and your children because they care and they’re trying to find a way to relate and understand what you’re going through. How about being grateful that they’re trying?

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  44. Kristie

    For god’s sake lighten up people…this article is funny. Get over yourselves

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    • Mother of 2

      I couldn’t agree more!!!

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      • Anonymous

        Agreed! Some people are unbelieveable. It’s enough to make me stop reading these bloody posts, everyone’s bitchy & negative comments are enough to put anyone off!

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  45. ElizabethanGirl

    Incredibly funny and intensely amusing writing : )

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  46. Kerrin

    Nail on head…spot on. I’m 3 years down the track and still don’t get a full night’s sleep.

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  47. Noelle

    Wow. Have we run out of things to get pissed off about?

    ‘You think I look AMAZING?! Get out of my house, you WHORE! And don’t you dare bring my child a gift on its first birthday!’

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  48. Emma

    I’m 28 weeks preggers with my first, and I have probably asked a new mum all these questions at some point! It’s not until you are pregnant or (I imagine) a new mum yourself that you realise how inappropriate people can be.

    I wrote a post about ‘helpful’ things that people have said to me while I have been pregnant… including the anti-abortion protester who congratulated me on keeping my baby!

    http://worsthousebeststreet.wordpress.com/2012/02/09/helpful-things…-i-am-pregnant/

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  49. bumpyroadtobubba

    Love it! I’ve had a good reminder of what too little sleep does this week – my precious 14 month old has a cold so I’m very, very tired. Let’s hope all the new mummas get a little more sleep – and can see the humour in as many things as possible – soon! I’m sharing my warts and all motherhood adventure at http://www.bumpyroadtobubba.com if you want to drop by for a visit.

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    • Amy

      Ahhh the dreaded cold! My daughter has one, and both her and myself had barely 2 hours sleep last night! :( It’s so difficult when they not only feel bad, but are cranky from lack of sleep too. I hope you both feel better very soon!

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      • bumpyroadtobubba

        I hope she’s on the mend soon and you both have a better sleep tonight!

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  50. Laura

    What a list of complaints! I understand how frustrating it must be for mothers who are sleep deprived and stressed out to be asked questions they find tedious or annoying, but honestly, I’m over the mummy-rage. I haven’t got kids. I frankly, have had little exposure to them and they aren’t on my agenda for a long time yet. Why is everyone – whether they have kids or not – expected to have the “perfect” list of questions? Would mothers prefer we completely and blatantly ignore that they have children? Should we talk about the weather? It just seems excessive. Yes your job is very, very, important. But teriffying everyone into thinking anyrhing they say is going to be misconstrued to the worst possibility just makes those of us without kids just NOT WANT TO ASK.

    E.G. A work colleague was pregnant. I asked how far along she was, and proceeded to tell her “You look utterly gorgeous, you’re so tiny, I never would have imagined that was your due date!”. Only to get a telling-off because now she’s paranoid the baby is too small?! If I’d said “You’re so big?” would I have gotten off any better. I doubt it.

    Sorry mummies, I’ve got to say, sometimes when talking to you we just cannot win.

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    • Mooner

      I’m sorry Laura, I am one of the complainers.

      I don’t actually really get that upset at the questions/comments of strangers or friends without babies – I know they are just being friendly. It’s the family members who constantly undermine my parenting. To be honest there are probably other issues at play than purely what questions they ask.

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      • Laura

        This article isnt about being faced with undermining family members, though, that’s a completely different issue. This article seems to be about well-meaning people putting their foot in it.

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        • Mooner

          I mean that I have been complaining on this page, but if I’m honest with myself I am really venting my frustration at family members who sometimes undermine me.

          I actually meant that I was genuinely sorry if my complaints have caused you to feel like you can’t talk to people about babies at all. Usually I can tell the spirit of the comment and therefore won’t take things said in search of ‘conversation’ to heart. I’m sure most people are the same.

          I guess it’s a shame you are hearing the ‘behind-the-scenes’ venting of tired, hormonal people who would never say this stuff in real life – well that goes for me anyway.

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          • Laura

            My comments aren’t in relation to your complaints. They’re just in relation to the complaints in the article and a generic frustration with oversensitive mothers.

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            • tastebud

              Everyone is entitled to a senseless whinge every now and then. Without being branded oversensitive. Just read it and move on. Or don’t.

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            • Kylie O

              For God’s sake, it’s meant to be a light-hearted article for people to have a laugh & move on. Some people take these things way too seriously – if it bothers you so much, then don’t freaking read it.

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    • M

      Oh, I can’t wait till you’re a mother. I said all the things you said.

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      • Laura

        Nothing is more offensive to me than this bullshit. “Wait until you’re a mother! You’ll understand”.

        How do you know I CAN have children?

        Don’t you think that’s awful? Not only the assumption that I’ll completely change my mind, but that I am fertile and capable of having kids.

        I hate these kind of gross, condescending comments. Pull your head in. A baby came out of you – it’s not a miracle, your sense of entitlement is tiring.

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        • Hey

          Oh yeah, you will change your attitude when you’re a mother.

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        • It is a miracle!

          Actually, having a baby come out of you is a miracle! That a tiny sperm and a little egg can meet and grow a human is AMAZING!

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          • Laura

            No, while it’s a lovely thing, it isn’t a miracle.

            Miracle, noun.

            1. A surprising and welcome event that is not explicable by natural or scientific laws and is considered to be divine.
            2. A highly improbable or extraordinary event, development, or accomplishment.

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            • maggie

              Fair call.

              I will remember that one :)

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            • Anonymous

              I just had a baby, and it fits in with the second definition – a highly extraordinary event!

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        • Anonymous

          Yeah, have to agree with this one…. I know next to nothing about children and babies and sometimes, from a well-meaning place, ask a stupid question and get a telling off or the inevitable “wait until you are a Mother, then you’ll understand”.

          I’m at an age where the likelihood of ever having a child is growing ever slimmer… this is sad for me… to then show an interest in a friend or acquaintance’s child and essentially be told “you’re annoying, you don’t know anything and only when you are a Mother yourself will you understand” is awful… so, they’re basically telling me that I’ll just never know I guess.

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