I am writing to protest in the strongest possible terms about the hoax call made from your radio station, 2Day FM, to this hospital last Tuesday.
The immediate consequence of these premeditated and ill-considered actions was the humiliation of two dedicated and caring nurses who were simply doing their job tending to their patients.
The longer term consequence has been reported around the world and is, frankly, tragic beyond words. I appreciate that you cannot undo the damage which has been done but I would urge you to take steps to ensure that such an incident could never be repeated.
2DayFM hosts Mel Greig and Michael Christian have spoken publicly for the first time since the royal radio prank and the death of 46-year-old nurse Jascintha Saldahna.
The pair sat down with Channel 9′s A Current Affair and Channel 7′s Today Tonight. Both interviews were aired tonight at 6:30pm.
Talking to Tracey Grimshaw (in an interview that has been confirmed as UNpaid), Mel Greig described the moment she received the call about Jacintha Saldahna’s death. Holding back tears Mel said: “It was the worst phone call I’ve ever had in my life.”
“It was early Saturday morning,” Michael said. “There were a group of people and they all told us about it and they were there for us.”
“Shattered, gutted and heartbroken,” was how Michael described the emotions he’s going through.
Mel and Michael have been in the care of radio staffers for the past few days, as they are reportedly extremely shaken.
“I’m still trying to make sense of it all,” Michael said. “We’re still trying to work our way through it all.”
Michael described the initial prank as “just a simple phone call.” An idea the two hosts came up with in a meeting earlier tat day. He said they never expected to actually be put through to Middleton’s ward – they expected to be hung up on.
“I don’t think anyone could have expected or foreseen what would happen… We just assumed we’d be cut off,” Michael said.
“I don’t think anyone would have thought it would have had this tragic outcome…It was just something that was fun and light hearted.”
Mel Greig said “prank calls had been done for years… they were routine for us… The entertainment value was supposed to be in us. It was supposed to be in our silly accents,” she said. “It wasn’t meant to go that far. I didn’t expect them to put us through.”
On what considerations were given to airing the recorded call prior to it being broadcast, Michael Christian said the call went through “the same filters that everything goes through…. Our role is just to record,” he said.
Of Ms Saldahna’s family, Mel said “There’s not a minute that goes by that we don’t think of that family and what they’re going through… I’ve thought about this a million times in my head, that I’ve wanted to just reach out to them and give them a big hug and say sorry. I hope they’re ok, I really do,”
And Michael: “I just hope they get the love and the support and the care that they need… We’re so upset and heartbroken and sorry for the situation.”
In a media statement, the radio network said:
Following the events of the last week, Southern Cross Austereo (SCA) today reiterates its deep regret for what has taken place. The Company, board and team at SCA take the events of the last few days very seriously.
According to this media statement, Southern Cross Austereo (SCA) have also taken actions since the event. Suspending all advertising, terminating the radio show and a company wide suspension of prank calls.
Mamamia has been following this tragic story as it has developed over the past few days.
We previously reported that:
It all started last week when The Duchess of Cambridge, Kate Middleton, was admitted to London’s King Edward VII Hospital with Hyperemesis Gravidarum – an acute case of morning sickness. When news of the princess’ long-awaited pregnancy spread, the world media pounced. Camera crews and journalists camped outside the hospital vying for exclusive stories and pictures of Prince William to run on the front pages of their rags.
In Australia, two summer radio hosts – Mel Greig and Michael Christian from 2DayFM- chose a different approach. They called the hospital, posing as members of the royal family, and asked to be put through to Kate Middleton’s private ward.
Unbelievably, it worked. The nurse who took the initial call – unaware that it was a prank – transferred the call through to the princess’ ward. A second nurse picked up the phone in the ward and gave Mel and Michael (who were putting on Queen Elizabeth and Prince Charles impersonations) a detailed run-down of the princess’ condition.
On Thursday of last week, the hoax went viral.
Two days later, a 46-year-old wife and mother of two was dead.
Jacintha Saldanha, the woman who took the radio hosts’ initial call and transferred it through to Kate Middleton’s ward, took her own life at the nurses’ quarters where she lived during the week.
Ms Saldanha’s 14-year-old daughter has started a Facebook page dedicated to her late mother, she posted on the weekend ‘I miss you, I loveeeeee you’. Ms Saldanha’s husband wrote on his own Facebook wall “I am devastated with the tragic loss of my beloved wife Jacintha in tragic circumstances. She will be laid to rest in Shirva, India.”
The BBC reported that Mrs Saldanha answered the phone call from 2DayFM at 5:30am earlier in the week because there was no receptionist on duty. She was not trained to do that work, she was simply trying to be helpful. And suddenly everyone everywhere was pointing fingers and wondering who to blame.
After the radio station’s board meeting last night, Chairman Max Moore-Wilton released a letter to Lord Glenarthur (who is the chairman of the King Edward VII Hospital). In the letter he noted the company that owns the radio show, would be taking “immediate action”.
The radio show was suspended from air over the weekend and it has been reported that the two local hosts are extremely shaken by the events. The radio network suspended all of their advertising on 2Day FM indefinitely, after advertisers (including Telstra and Coles) began pulling their funding. The hosts have deleted their Twitter accounts. Their physical and emotional health is being monitored.
Mamamia’s Bec Sparrow wrote yesterday about the dangers of finger pointing following the week’s tragic events (you can read her powerful post here). Her sentiments were echoed by UK journalist Ian Dunt from politics.co.uk who has warned the community from blaming the two young hosts, who could never foreseen the devastating consequences of their prank. Dunt writes:
Princess Kate leaving the hospital with Prince William before they found out about Jesintha’s death.
Let’s be clear. Those attacking the Australian radio DJs who made the prank call to the hospital Kate Middleton was staying in are guilty of the very crime they are protesting against.
A spokesperson for Prime Minister Julia Gillard has said ‘this is a terrible tragedy. Our thoughts are with (Ms Saldanha’s) family and friends at this time.’
The Australian Communications and Media Authority are investigating the matter.
Contrary to some speculative reports, the two young hosts at the centre of this tragedy have not ‘sold’ their story. They are expected to give a media conference or make further statements today. We will bring you those when they happen.










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240 Comments so far
I think its a tragedy. I think there must have been underlying issues for this woman to take her life. Having said that, I hope that all in the media will in future give serious consideration to any future “pranks”.
I do not think an interview on a current affair or today tonight is the way for these radio announcers to go. I think they should continue to maintain their silence. These 2 shows have zero credibility and I certainly would hope to God they are not getting paid as no-one should profit was this tragedy.
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How English newspapers can take the moral high ground ON ANYTHING is far beyond me.
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OMG: British media take the moral highground after discovering that despite telefocal lenses from nearby buildings trained on Kate’s hospital bedroom and attempts to hack into her patient file via computer…they were still beaten out by a couple of inexperienced DJs who really didn’t think anyone would answer a simple phonecall.
The media hysteria surrounding this incident is what has prompted recent tragic developments. Everyone needs to stay calm, put their pitchforks down and stop fuelling the fire. There are kids grieving their mother and trying to make sense of a senseless situation – give them some room.
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There is absolutely nothing that these two presenters can say that can make this situation any better for themselves or for any other people involved. There is certainly nothing they can say to tabloid TV that will help. Surely discussions between the hospital and the radio station could take place in private and the results and outcomes disclosed when it is all over. 2DAYFM should also realise that, to this member of the public, it seems that they are only opening their mouths to change feet.
I agree with Will Anderson. Where was the adult in the room when the decision was made to go ahead with the broadcast of this call? Wouldn’t the dignified response from 2DAYFM be; “Something terrible has happened here, we had some involvement in it. We are doing what we can as responsible members of the human race to make up for it.” ?
Believe me; interviews on A Current Affair and Today Tonight are just digging the boot in. There are always two sides to every story but it is not always the right time to tell yours.
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Sorry, but if some thoughtless deed or word of mine had contributed to this tragedy, the LAST thing I would now be doing is airing it all on TT or ACA. Paid or not.
Do these two have no sense at all of the enormity of the consequences of their actions, even if it can be claimed they weren’t totally responsible. A bit of discreet absenteeism and sealed lips would not go amiss here.
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I would be pretty certain this is not something they are doing willingly!
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There is no way the two djs have had any control over any part of their lives since Sarurday morning. Including where ever they’ve been sleeping. What is with all the comments about them making a poor choice of media outlet? Look higher!
Do people really think they would be able to/would want to make these kind of arrangements themselves. They are the face of a scandal and they are being directed by their employer.
Seriously.
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This story just makes me so angry. Ok the djs could never have predicted that this would happen – but the entire point of a prank call is to embarrass and humiliate people and that’s not ok in itself. Even before this tragic news, the whole thing made me furious – the waste of nurses time and the invasion of privacy of someone who, while in the public eye, is a human being just like any of us. A vulnerable human being at the time of this stupid and shallow prank. Did they really believe that no one would be hurt over this? People could have lost their jobs, a person could have had their medical history disclosed to the public – what about any of that did they think was funny?
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I don’t really agree with this. If I was planning to impersonate the Queen in such a way, I’d think the most embarrassed and humiliated person would end up being myself. Many radio and TV personalities will embarrass themselves for a cheap laugh. I think it’s reasonable to assume a hospital that regularly deals with the Royals would be used to idiots calling and would question anyone pretending to be the Queen.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing…
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Hindsight is a wonderful thing I agree and I said that no one could have imagined what would happen but what about foresight? Don’t we all use foresight, every day to guide out judgement and behaviour? It was a pre-recorded stunt, so even if they thought it was a funny thing to do (which I still don’t think it is – it’s a hospital, nurses have actual jobs to do and patients to take care of crazily enough) they made a choice to air it, inclusive of private medical information, without permission from anyone involved in the call. Even if that’s not illegal (which I thought it was?) it demostrates a gobsmacking lack of judgement and common sense. It doesn’t take hindsight to realise that there’s something off about that.
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“I’d think the most embarrassed and humiliated person would end up being myself”
Except that it was prerecorded then put to air knowing full well that there were victims on the other end of the phone who were unlikely to be surrounded by a bevy of lawyers and media advisers, who didn’t even know they were participating in a joke, did not give permission to be be the butt of the joke and who did not stand to profit from this in any way at all.
Once the conversation had taken place and the result was known, the nurses only stood to lose. How any reasonable adult can’t see that is beyond me.
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I’m still crying about this as I read. It’s just so dreadfully sad
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I don’t condone what they did, I think it was stupid and silly, but for someone to suicide over it? I still believe there is more to it than meets the eye. I think we should just let the UK authorities get on with whatever investigations into the nurse’s death they think appropriate. And the last thing these 2 kids need is Tracey Grimshaw and A Current Affair involved. That won’t be helpful.
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They aren’t kids! They’re adults. There is two kids that will be without their mother though this Christmas. As adults, they should of known better than to waste hospital staffs time with stupid prank calls where people are sick.
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Ok, point taken – about them being adults and not kids. However, their prankish and irresponsible behaviour is not indicative of adults wouldn’t you agree?
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Must respectfully disagre nonna. It is indicative of adults. Adults who want to succeed in the world of commercial radio, whether it’s ethical, moral or not. We all have a role to play at work and for them, this was part of it. As adults they knew this, played it but unfortunately it didn’t quite work out to be the career highlight they expected. Such a terrible tragedy all round. But to say they were like kids? No. Just highly ambitious adults.
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Kids? They are adults. Let’s not trivialise their actions in this. It’s a horrific situation and a massive burden that they’ll carry forever – but they weren’t innocent children forced into this against their own will. The only innocent kids in this story are the children that have lost their mother less than two weeks before Christmas.
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I am not a fan of prank calls. They are puerile and not funny. Lots of people are mortified when they find out they’ve been ‘pranked’. Prank calls have had their day.
However to blame the 2 hosts for the suicide of this nurse is ridiculous to say the least! There’s something very wrong if anyone suicides because they unwittingly put through a prank call!
I’m curious as to why the nurse was in quarters rather than at home (for her protection?).
Our society over compensates in case we ‘hurt’ anyone’s psyche.
That’s why we have generic report cards, ‘everyone’s a winner’ pass the parcel, and banned ‘Irish’ or any nationality jokes. All in the name of political correctness and reducing ‘harm’.
Sometimes life teaches us different lessons.
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I’m not too sure you can really lump banning ‘nationality’ jokes with having generic report cards.
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The fact that we don’t know what it going on in other people’s lives makes this worse to me not an excuse.
Because the radio station did not know the circumstances of the random person they chose to humiliate and possibly risk their jobs, have civil charges against them etc it should not have been done in the first place.
We don’t know the circumstances of the person chosen to be humiliated so what justification can there be for going ahead with taking the risk?
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She lived a long way outside of London, in Bristol, its not commutable. It’s a very prestigious hospital in the centre of London, it must’ve been worth her while to travel.
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The nurse would have been in the nurses quarters because she had just completed a night shift – it is common for nurses to sleep at the nurses quarters after working all night, so they are not travelling after having no sleep. Or they stay at the quarters if they are doing a string of shifts back to back, and then go home on days off.
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I worked at a private hospital in London for 5 years. It looked after very wealthy & famous patients. Compared to Australia’s relaxed culture, there was certainly a huge class system within the hospital & you were absolutely expected to be graceful, well mannered & adhere to the impeccable hospital standards. It was scary if we let anything slip – being in the marketing department we had to be so thorough & respectful of senior management & the doctors. It was a real effort every day as an Aussie girl having to be so very careful of everything I said & published. There is a real pride, reputation, class system & competitiveness in the private hospital system in the UK so I can oh imagine how humiliated & fragile the nurse felt. Taking one tiny wrong step was so frightening for me in that environment so I can imagine how she felt. Although I grew up quite well by Australian standards I felt like a real commoner in this hospital & had to try really hard everyday to gain the drs & management’s respect. The whole story is just so sad & everyone’s hurting. I don’t think pranks should go ahead, and especially across cultures. We think we know the UK but upper class hospitals are in their own league in London & I would never mess with them knowing how it felt to work in one. We are far too laid back here to understand how those 2 nurses may have really felt.
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I know the DJs would never have predicted this outcome. You really couldn’t in your wildest dreams have imagined this could happen. But obviously someone has thought about possible outcomes, and that is why there are laws in place that (are supposed to) govern prank calls on radio. This wasn’t just a bad judgement call. Rules of practice were broken. Maybe 99 times out of a hundred those rules don’t actually do much. Obviously not everyone that gets radio pranked has serious pre-existing mental health issues. But all it takes is that one time, and maybe if ALL the rules had been followed this wouldn’t have happened…
interesting article over at the punch:
http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/where-were-the-adults-in-the-room-at-2dayfm/
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This whole thing just stinks to high heaven.
Austereo is the “cool” club of FM radio. It creates, then promotes a culture of raunch and venality. Ratings rule everything. Push boundaries, get noticed at any costs. Bad publicity is good publicity.
The 24 hour news cycle is so DESPERATE for any news relating to the royal baby so it leaps on the story of the prank and then blows it totally out of proportion.
Our digitally interconnected world makes sure these poor nurses know what fools they were to not pick up on terrible accents and know that it was a prank. Both of them were damned if they did and damned if they didn’t. Imagine if it actually was the Queen and they didn’t put it through? Either way they were both in the wrong place at the wrong time.
Lets now just add A Current Affair to the mix! Rather than engage with a reputable journalistic program like say a program like 4 Corners that would treat the story with the dignity it deserves, Austero has chosen to associate itself with a program that sensationalizes stories, is often one sided and you can see that they are also looking for a ratings gain out of this.
The whole thing is just so gross and disgusting.
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There are several ex-2DayFM presenters quoted in the Herald Sun today. They say that announcers are actively encouraged to make prank calls and humiliate listeners and one even said there was a $50 prize on offer if they could make a listener cry. I know most of you will agree with me that this is simply attrocious – but it makes me so sad to know that in the end, the station will not change because the listeners won’t care if it does so – just like Kyle Sandilands who remains one of the most popular personalities on radio.
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Lauren, this upsets me so much. And I don’t get the love for Kyle. Can someone explain, cause all I see is an insecure, nasty pratt.
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I think the management at the radio station and the people that gave the green light to play the “prank” need to shoulder some responsibility over what happened instead of pinning it all on the dj’s, but by the sounds of it that isn’t going to happen.
The best thing people can do is simply turn off the station.
I can’t fathom how an earth Kyle is so popular!?
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THE DJ’S CONTINUE TO SPEND TIME IN THE COMMERCIAL MEDIA LIMELIGHT BY DOING THIS INTERVIEW, PAID OR UNPAID, THE INTERVIEW IS TACKY.
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The one thing I heard on the news last night, and IF this is true, its the one thing that REALLY disgusts me.
The 2 hosts SOLD their story to A Current Affair. So in the midst of tragedy, they are trying to make money out of this. If they wanted to tell their story, they should have done it for nothing.
IF this is true, I am disgusted.
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I heard the same thing. sold! Event the news presenter said this wouldn’t look good for them.
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If it’s true they sold their stories, for all we know they’re going to donate the proceeds to the fund established in Jacintha’s honour or Beyond Blue or something similar. I’ve been openly critical of this prank and the people involved from the moment I first heard of it but I’m going to reserve judgement on this particular aspect until I know for sure.
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Fair enough.
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I know the DJs would never have predicted this outcome. You really couldn’t in your wildest dreams have imagined this could happen. But obviously someone has thought about possible outcomes, and that is why there are laws in place that (are supposed to) govern prank calls on radio. This wasn’t just a bad judgement call. Rules of practice were broken. Maybe 99 times out of a hundred those rules don’t actually do much. Obviously not everyone that gets radio pranked has serious pre-existing mental health issues. But all it takes is that one time, and maybe if ALL the rules had been followed this wouldn’t have happened…
interesting article on the punch
http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/where-were-the-adults-in-the-room-at-2dayfm/?from=scroller&pos=3&referrer=home&link=text
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I really feel for Jacintha and her family, the way I read it is that she answered a phone call and put the call through to the nurse on Katherines ward, she didnt give out any information or do the wrong thing in my opinion, I feel sad for her if the accusations of bullying and scrutiny are true, she made a mistake, she shouldnt have been made to feel there was no way to come back from it other than suicide.
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As a nurse that has worked in many private hospitals in Australia and the UK, I can guarantee the hospital would NOT have been very supportive, no matter what they claim. At the end of the day they are a business, so this stunt would have been humiliating to them and this is proven in the letter they have written to the radio station to state their disgust. What better way to ease your own guilt then write a condemnation letter?!
What those presenters did was thoughtless & tacky trying to get ratings and it worked, It just backfired in a horrendous way. To lay sole blame on them when the circumstances surrounding the event are so hazy is a disgrace.
Then the BBC stating ‘She was not trained to do that work, she was simply trying to be helpful’ – Are you kidding me?!!! A nurse is trained to look after and get to know people in the most intimate way possible. The media as a whole is trying to make that poor nurse sound like a complete fool!!
Jim Moret has written a brilliant article about this and it is my sentiments exactly –
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jim-moret/kate-middleton-royal-prank_b_2265480.html
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I agree! I think the Management and board of the hospital would have gone down hard on the two affected staff nurses – their reputation has been tattered and I find it very hard to believe the nurses would not have been reprimanded. I also think her colleagues could have had a role in how things changed in the days after the prank…workplace bullying can affect a person’s well being…
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Purely speculation on what or how the admin of the hospital reacted.
We wouldn`t be speculating at all thou if that call had not be made, the nurses permission was sought to broadcast them & the audio was not replayed, replayed, replayed & linked to by various sources.
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Yes but it’s interesting how many nurses have commented that there would have been some nasty repercussions from their employers at the hospital – in their experience. Valid speculation as far as speculation goes, I would guess.
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Many nurses? I have read the comments of only one claiming to be an ex employee, who knows she may not even be a nurse yet alone an ex employee. Can you link to these many nurses comments.
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Well I’m a nurse. I’ve never worked there, but as a nurse, you are at the bottom of the medical food chain and you are painfully aware of it. Fair enough?
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Links? Go back and read through the comments over the last couple of days Guest, you’ll find them – they’re still there.
There were even a couple of nurses commenting on the original post about the prank, before the aftermath, that they hoped she didn’t lose her job over it.
Now there’s Faybian, above, another nurse, if you believe her that is…*
I’m not really sure why you would dismiss what seems to be a fairly standard take on staff discipline in hospitals from people in the know. Personally, I found them most interesting.
*I myself have no doubt Faybian is a nurse because I read her posts and pay attention.
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I’m yet to have it explained to me how the hospital’s procedures and process, whatever they are, make it okay for some idiots to humiliate nurses, without permission, in return for profits.
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I find pop-culture consumption of other people, as this stunt is, completely abhorrent. It’s like societies moral compass has been lost somewhere and its all people out for themselves, seeing what they can suck from someone else to be deemed funny, cool and more socially desirable. In this story, the someone else were the two innocent nurses caught up in a prank by two dutifully serving pop-culture DJ’s & the royal family with a bun in the oven (usually a very precious time – not usually associated with prank calls and suicide).
The machine behind these radio stations (along with print, TV, film, internet media) are the source of the problem I reckon. They find $$$$’s in getting “talent” to pull stunts like these, to bring in the crowds and thus, the advertisers. And yes, as some have pointed out, they’re all in bed together, feeding between the different mediums and supporting eachother when it hits the fan or when it goes really well – either way.
Our society has to stop feeding these machines if anything is ever going to change (why is Kyle Sandilands still on air?!).
I’m starting young with my kids – at 6 and 4, they still don’t watch commercial TV at home and we don’t listen to commercial radio in the car. I’m not saying this will solve everything and my kids won’t grow up to be consumers, but minimal exposure while they’re young, coupled with a healthy dose of moral living (respect for ourselves, for others and integrity when dealing with daily life) and I trust that I’ll give them a sturdy base to bounce off when they start making their own life choices. It’s a start anyway…
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I read the below on the SMH website today
“Rhys Holleran, chief executive of 2Day FM’s parent company Austereo, reiterated on Monday that what had occurred was “a deeply tragic, unforseen circumstance” but that he was satisfied that the appropriate checks were conducted before the pre-recorded segment was broadcast.
“It is absolutely true to say that we actually did attempt to contact those people on multiple occasions. We rang them up to discuss what we had recorded. We attempted to contact them on no less than five occasions. We did want to speak to them about it,” he told Melbourne radio station 3AW.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/2day-threats-mount-as-prank-anger-rises-20121210-2b4fe.html#ixzz2EbumkPQJ
If that’s true then this whole situation even more appalling than I at first thought. The radio station obviously knew that the people involved in this dreadful “prank” should have been warned/consulted on what was going to air, but despite not being able to obtain contact they went ahead anyway.
Absolutely disgraceful!!! And to think they are using that as some kind of defence!
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None of the defences add up to much.
We’ve got:
We sought but didn’t get permission.
We couldn’t have known what might happen.
It wasn’t illegal.
We didn’t expect it (a prerecorded stunt) to get this far.
Everyone else does it.
It was just for fun.
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The same question is in my mind about the strategies and security that were in place at that hospital during Kate Middleton’s stay.
To expect a lone nurse to cope with that call seems unwise and the information given to the callers about Kate’s whereabouts and vulnerability could have proved dangerous.
Can you imagine the same scenario in an American hospital during a stay of Michelle Obama perhaps ?…………That hospital would have been crawling with security and a bona-fide security person would have been the 1st point of contact on that switch.
And what of the 2nd nurse ?
She’s been sheltered for now but we can all imagine how the hospital may have dealt with them both.
This was a silly, careless idea that’s taken on a tragic life of it’s own and the conversations about ethics in broadcasting, and the security of people in public life are timely.
More care & consideration & protection should be extended to all of those people who stick their necks out to care for us, to do their public duty and yes, even to try to amuse us.
Meanwhile, the lawyers will pick over every possible bit of information available on everyone involved – because that’s what lawyers do.
This may profoundly change the nature of comedy/satirical freedom world-wide.
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I’ve seen no sign that management at the station think they’ve done anything wrong. Sure they acknowledge the tragic result but their defence is “it wasn’t illegal”. That seems to be about the limit of perceived responsibility from their comments so far. Morality, ethics and humanity don’t seem to be an issue.
And why would we assume the regulators will show any more teeth on this than they have on past issues? Like the TGA in medicine, the regulators are next-to-useless.
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I’ve been hearing this morning that Austereo are saying how they ‘called the hospital 5 times’ to tell them about the impending prank call.
Sorry, but hospitals have got much more important things to do than take phone calls from some radio station on the other side of the world, wanting to ‘discuss’ the fact that they want to do a prank call. Impersonating the Queen no less, wanting to get information about an unwell pregnant woman.
And this from a radio station that continues to employ Kyle Sandilands. They seem hell bent on never firing anyone who majorly stuffs up.
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Agree. I think they’ve made this up. And if they think about it, do they really think the hospital would’ve agreed to it if they DID get through to them? There’s no way they would’ve. So they did it anyway, knowing logically, that it wouldn’t have been approved.
These decisions were made by their EXECUTIVES who STILL have their jobs, NOT the DJs who are now unemployed.
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It would have been vetted by several people higher up in the food chain than the public face which is the DJ. And this one no doubt would have been run past lawyers as well.
It’s the DJ’s job to be outrageous, and the Stick Man’s job to make sure they never go too far.
The DJs, however distasteful to some, did their job extremely well, and the subsequent tragic consequences are IMO the responsibility of the Stick Man.
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Exactly. Austereo boss and other execs are hiding behind their station’s public faces here. I still believe though that the DJ’s obviously did play their part. Yes, they were most likely instructed by others to do it, but they obviously have no problems working in a job that does things like this (prank calls).
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So they wasted the hospitals time on numerous occasions?
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Did I say that? No, I didn’t….
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They didn’t ring to tell the hospital of the IMPENDING call just to tell them that the prank had been done
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OK, well the impending broadcast of the call then.
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Firstly, let me say that I can’t stand 2Day FM and other similar stations – I won’t listen to them as I feel they’re they’re infantile, celebrity-obsessed and the music isn’t to my taste in any way.
That being said, I believe it’s likely that this incident alone should not have resulted in the suicide of the nurse if everything else in her life was peachy keen, especially since she hadn’t been identified publicly (to my knowledge) and was said to have the full support of the hospital.
I feel for everyone involved, including the radio presenters who must now be considered at risk of suicide themselves, and just wish the hospital would do a little bit of self-examination about their failure to put protocols into place to prevent this from occurring in the first place – rather than pointing the finger squarely at the radio station.
It’s an absolute tragedy that never should have happened and I can only hope that this prompts the cessation of ‘gotcha calls’ and the implementation of some suitable policies and procedures at the hospital.
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Yes the DJ’s made absolutely stupid call to do what they did. Now they are paying the price. They must feel terrible and I suppose they should, but has anyone asked what happened after the call. Did hospital adminstration ridicule the nurse and make it unbareable in the workplace…Did other staff bully her about the situation? Was she already depressed? Did she received abusive messages at home? There needs to be an investigation. I hear lots of prank calls made over the radio from many radio staions to all sorts of people some of which I think are inappropriate. I just think everyone should calm down hold their horses and let an investigation take place…if anything ban prank calls! My thoughts and prays are with the young lady’s family tho!
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Sydney commercial radio is notorious for prank calls and ‘gotchya’ calls. They’re un-original and generally not very funny.
Just a few weeks ago in the car I was listening to Merrick’s show I think it’s on Triple M and they were talking about prank calls. The female co-host protested against the prank calls and said she hated them, didn’t want to do them etc etc. Merrick & the other male host pretty much told her that it was too bad, she was part of the show and had to do them.
Come to think of it, isn’t Triple M also owned by Austereo?
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On Sunrise this morning they said another nurse has spoken out and said the hospital involved is so strict and bullies staff regularly. The hospital should have had a trained receptionist on duty, especially with such a newsworthy member of the royals as a patient. No one knows the entire story. Suicide hasn’t been confirmed yet, though unfortunately it would seem to be case. I feel for everyone involved.
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Yes. Jo Lamble, Mamamia’s own psych (or was, at least), said on the Today show this morning that it can be a build up of stuff, or it can be a reaction to a one off event that is done impulsively.
I think the speculation is attempt at justification to make people feel better.
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Also, this issue is why I listen to ABC & JJJ, even more so now.
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Im sorry but the whole point of a prank is to humiliate the recipient. Legalities aside, he prank showed an appalling lack of judgement and morals. The dj’s tried to obtain information they were not allowed access to, by gross misrepresentation. When will these wanna be celebrities know where to draw the line? When will they be held accountable for their actions?
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Yes. Another element that seems to be overlooked is the misogyny of the whole thing. The joke was to be about a young woman experiencing complications in her first pregnancy, and the people they would expect to talk to would be female nurses.
Placing the phone call at 5:30 am also seems like a ruse to catch a trusting carer.
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Are you serious? Misonygy? Maybe you are the sexist one in assuming all nurses are female and the poor little ladies need protecting from the big bad world!!!
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Do you think they would have made a prank call to a hospital where a soldier was recovering from injuries?
Why not?
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Because a soldier recovering from wounds isn’t Kate Middleton?
I hate prank calls and what has happened with this one, but there is no misogyny at play here.
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Misogyny? Please. It’s not even sexist. This word is starting to get thrown around in the same manner as a 5 year old delighting in discovering that the word ‘f*ck’ incites a strong reaction.
The point of a prank is to make people laugh. Sometimes humiliation is involved. In this case, not much humiliation.
I’m not for one moment trying to dial down regret for Jacinta’s fragility and the grief and horror over her act, but baying for blood is much worse, in terms of intent, than the original prank call.
Social media outrage is getting outrageous.
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Of all of the comments made about this issue…yours is the silliest ! Misogyny ? I realise that Macquarie has changed the meaning of the word, of course. But you have taken that “new” meaning way too far.
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Seriously, misogyny??? That is one hell of a stretch. What and who are we going to link misogyny with next?
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I feel for the presenters. I don’t think they ever expected to be put through or obtain any information and I don’t think that the prank was designed to humiliate anyone. I think they expected the humour to come from being caught out- except they weren’t. I wouldn’t consider the suicide of a nurse a foreseeable consequence.
It is definitely a tragedy and I feel for the nurse ands her family but how does baying for the blood of the presenters like a pack of hounds help anything? All it serves to do is ruin more lives. These types of radio pranks are fairly standard in the industry, these ideas are usually run through producers, management and lawyers so to lay all the blame on the presenters reeks of scape goating.
Why aren’t we using this tragedy to talk about the radio entertainment culture that relies on these types of pranks or to have a conversation about suicide? Most likely it is because people have always enjoyed a witch hunt. It’s much more simple and satisfies baser instincts than discussing the more complex problems.
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And just to be clear I hate pranks and think this one was especially stupid. I think we need to look at why radio stations continue to use this type fake call prank as a method of entertainment. It is old, it is unoriginal and it relies on duping an unwitting victim which is mean and gross.
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I have NO sympathy for them. A tasteless, stupid prank followed by one devastating consequence. What’s funny about harrassing a sick pregnant woman? Nothing. And the victim blaming is shocking. Imagine how she must have felt. The station and the hosts are squarely to blame here.
2DayFm..appeals to the lowest common denominator.
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I think it is insensitive to not feel for two people who made a mistake (the consequences of which could not possibly have been foreseen) and will live with the consequences for the rest of their lives. Obviously their anguish will not be as intense as the family of Jacintha, but just because someone is suffering more than them does not cancel out their suffering. These hosts were doing their job. Prank calls are made every day, most/all are not funny. But these hosts do not deserve to be held responsible for a woman’s death.
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“victim blaming is shocking” you state and yet in the following sentence you do exactly that blame people, how HYPOCRITICAL of YOU!!!
What these presenters did was not the smartest or most thought out action… however to say they are the sole reason this nurse committed suicide is ridiculous, suicide is rarely the action resulting from one singular incident as many psychologists have stated in relation to this incident. It is an awful tragedy but there is most likely more to the story than you or I know.
It is not up to the general public to make judgement on the public faces of this prank call and the tragedy that followed.
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Well perhaps you shouldn’t make a judgement on her mental state then hey?
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Such an awful tragedy. Personally, I can’t fully blame the young DJs. They’re just a couple of kids who didn’t think about the consequences of such a prank. Didn’t the 2DAYFM management realise that this prank would cause instant worldwide humiliation for an individual? Kids often do a lot of dumb things, but Southern Cross Austereo are supposed to responsible adults who should have known better.
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couple of kids????
how old are they – like 10???
they were supposed to be responsible ADULTS working in a professional paid employment. Obviously with very POOR JUDGEMENT. But lets not dumb it down to saying they were “kids”.
Both they and the management at 2DAYFM hold responsibility in allowing this call to go through on air.
Obviously, the nurse may have also had other issues. But at the end of the day, if it wasn’t for this stupid, tasteless phone call, she would still have been alive, spending time with her children.
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They’re most likely in their 30s, they’re hardly ‘kids’.
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Kids hey? The 6 year olds in my class are kids. And I suspect most of them wouldn’t act as stupidly as these adults.
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For me this kind of brings to mind the topless photo scandal involving Kate – why the hell weren’t there better measures in place to protect her privacy?
I would think that it would be highly unusual for any of the nurses or staff in that hospital to have to deal with this level of media attention and scrutiny of one of their patients, and that perhaps the ‘Palace’ (as it seems to be referred to) should have ensured there were some processes/protocols in place when it comes to Kate and William.
Not that I agree with photographers invading their privacy, or radio hosts making silly prank calls, but the reality is that these things happen. Personally, I think that it is the minders/security/advisors or whatever you want to call them – the people who work to protect the Royal family – who have yet again let down Kate, and let down the nurse.
My heart goes out to the family of Jacintha, this is such a terrible and tragic thing for them to be experiencing. It is devastating that what was such happy news, a much wanted baby, has turned into this. I hope that many people have learned from this, and I feel that all the finger pointing and righteous attitudes are not helping anyone.
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I actually didn’t even hear about the whole incident until the British media hysterically started reporting on it. AND even they didn’t care about the two nurses and the effect it might have on them, it was all about the DoC (which is not wrong) and only a few people in the comments sections made comments about how the nurses might feel and what would happen to them. At the end of the day they are just as bad as 2day fm, in that they ran at least 4 or 5 different articles which had a crazy amount of comments, so they also probably only cared about getting hits and their advertising revenue. If anyone seriously thinks that the way the worlwide media saturation of this didn’t contribute to the distress, then I think they are either very naive or are a little bit sociopathic and will not be happy until Mel and Micheal commit suicide, as it appears that this is what many people are wanting to occur.
Also, I still have not heard the recording, though I am somewhat tempted to listen to 2dayfm as the fact they don’t have ads at the moment is somewhat appealing, though I think I will stick with my mp3.
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Nobody is a winner in this situation. My heart goes out to the family of Jacintha Saldanha. My sympathies also extend to Prince William and Kate for what would have marred this exciting time in their lives. I also feel for the Radio Announcers because they are both young, inexperienced and in their mind were just putting to air a silly radio prank call. Based on the audio, I can only assume they were surprised they even got through.
The reality is that these two Announcers probably aren’t exclusively at fault. Before this call was put to air it would have gone through Legal and then vetted by the Producer and/or Program Director. They are not entirely to blame. Nothing goes to air on Metro radio without having been signed off on – especially not from a new radio team. It might not even have been the Announcers idea. The idea could have been generated in a meeting and the Announcers merely ‘brought it to life’. Who knows? I think it’s wrong to crucify these people though as it amounts to bullying and is worse than what they are being accused of.
It was a prank call that went horribly wrong. Nobody could have forseen it. It does raise the question of the relevance of these kinds of calls. Do people find them entertaining anymore? I’m not sure. What I do know is that 2DAY FM continues to rate highly in Surveys so obviously many people like the Station and will continue to support them. Calling to take them off air is not the answer, but perhaps it will take something like this for Management to reassess their current strategy.
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To me, the people most at blame is the rest of the media that reported on the prank. I don’t listen to the radio stataion, partly because I don’t like to listen to pranks. And yet, I have heard that call, over and over. If no other media had reported on the call, then it would have been heard by a few thousand listeners, hardly the international scandal and humiliation it turned out to be.
So perhaps we should be looking at the rest of the media as much as that station. The same media who are now saying how surprising it is that the call was pre-recorded and approved by others before it went to air are the same one that on Friday were happily re-playing the call and discussing at length how amazing it was that the hosts got through. I don’t remember hearing any of the reservations then that I am hearing now – everything from how they should have expected this would have a negative impact on the nurse through to “did they think about how this would affect Kate at a difficult time”. It’s easy to point the finger after it happens.
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One of the best comments I’ve read so far. Thank you.
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My issue is not with the hosts, they were doing what many a radio host has done before them. Any station I listen to has been turned off over the years when pranks or bullying have been done. From Merrick and Rosso to Kyle and Jacqui O. I won’t tollerate it.
We teach our children that it is bad to tease, bully and prank people, yet for some reason it is standard practise by some radio stations.
Nobody could predict what happened, the tragedy that has now struck. But we as a society should surely be hanging our heads in shame that we keep supporting this kind of behaivour.
My thoughts are with all involved, including the hosts – I cannot imagine how they must feel. 2DayFM should have followed procedure and had the prank approved by all involved before going to air. For me it’s the final straw for that station that will not be listened to again.
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Tragedy aside, it’s extremely unethical to call a hospital to get private medical information about a patient. I’m surprised it isn’t illegal. I can’t believe they put it to air in the first place. It’s so wrong.
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EXACTLY!
It’s completely unethical.
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Is it not unethical for a medical professional to divulge the information in the first place?
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Perhaps when you think you are talking to the Queen of England, the rules might sway…
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God him/herself could call and I would still find it unethical for a hospital to divulge my medical info
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Yes, it’s against our code of ethics. Probably nervousness about it being the queen (even though it wasn’t) may have changed the way they would normally behave, but it’s still unethical.
Even though the hospital’s PR person said the nurses weren’t going to be disciplined, I’d bet the registration board will have something to say.
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Back on the subject of the radio hosts. I understand that they must feel awful at the moment but these stupid radio pranks always hurts or embarrass someone. It’s gutter humour. Emergency services, hospitals, schools and the like should never be the victims of these types of childish fools. People in these fields are busy enough without having to worry about this sort of thing.
When it comes to the nurse that suicided, yes she probably did have other issues and this may have been the final straw but very rarely do people Suicide for a single reason. It is usually a culmination of multiply issues. Lets hope that a serious lesson is learnt from this tragedy.
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Mamamia made a management decision to publish the interview too. That means the mamamia management team has the same moral compass as the managers of Austereo.
The media as a whole, every outlet that published the prank call is just as culpable as 2day FM.
It’s just a pity that none of the media, including Mamamia, has the guts to say sorry. Simply passing blame onto someone else is piss weak and a total denial of all responsibility.
Mamamia management thought the interview was funny, now they are singing a different song.
I hope the inquiry into 2day FM is extended to include every media outlet who made a decision to publish the interview.
So how about it Mamamia? Can you please tell us who it was, and what was your process for publishing the interview? Who approved the text that said it was funny?
How about showing some accountability?
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Hi Anon
You raise some really valid points here about the media’s decision to cover the story (and I include MM under that banner).
And while, with the benefit of now knowing the full developments, we would not have reported on the prank (who could have foreseen the ultimate outcome?), I think you have thrown some unfair claims at us here.
We reported on the prank, yes. Why? Because the fact a hospital disclosed personal medical records of a member of the royal family in response to a hoax, does raise some serious questions about medical confidentiality, hospital systems. Objectively, it meets the ‘newsworthy’ test. It’s also relevant that those who were the victims of the stunt were also (at the time) not identifiable.
What doesn’t meet the newsworthy test? A prank video that went viral across news networks only one week before. It was a video of a woman in a lift, being frightened in the extreme by a very believable ‘ghost’ hoax. We deliberately chose not to publish that story. Why? Because it’s just about embarrassing someone, there was no other element that made it worthy of coverage.
This was different.
Mamamia did not call the prank funny. We simply reported it as the prank call that ‘everyone was talking about’. Which was true.
Mia has said elsewhere on the site that she thinks prank calls are the lowest level of humour. And I tend to agree. They’re just not funny. That candid camera kind of stuff doesn’t really fly. You’re having fun at someone else’s expense while making no relevant or valid point.
The discussions now happening around the repsonsibilities of broadcasters are something we’re watching with interest. And I think it’s likely we’ll see some regulatory change in the near future.
Jamila (Managing Editor)
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Thanks for clearing that up, Jamila.
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Agree wholeheartedly Anon. The media are as just as much to blame as the presenters.
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It is the radio station that continues to broadcast Kyle Sandilands though.
I am SICK of these people- Sandilands, Alan Jones etc.- getting a light tap across the wrist and being scaled back for a couple of weeks then being back and doing it all over again. I think if there is anything to be learned from all this it’s that this kind of gutter slime entertainment must end. It’s not just up to them, it’s up to audiences. Expect better. Demand better. Put on the bloody ABC and take some notice of what is going on in the world rather than filling your brains with sludge. Stop being the lowest common denominator and they will stop making rubbish that appeals to the very bottom of the barrel. All I hear on commercial radio is horrible loud laughing at crude, unfunny and hurtful jokes interspersed with the wailing noise of Katy Perry and her ilk. And I’m not old, I’m twenty, I just expect better.
So I think maybe these two should be fired, unfortunately they are the face of yet another radio disaster that went way too far, but the world has seen this. 2DAY FM needs to accept responsibility and make some huge changes, maybe they can be the start of a much, much needed industry wide change.
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beautifully put Em.
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Is there a thumbs up x 100 button? Exactly right.
A reasonable article from Dunt although the following suggests he doesn’t know much about 2DAYFM: “Their careers are probably ruined”. It would be nice to think so but this being 2DAYFM we have a pretty good idea what happens when they cross the line. There will be a 2-3 week period off air which would be when they take holidays and then back on the air. For anyone who doubts this, take a look at the extremely severe slap on the wrist administered to Sandliands.
I’m not surprised by 2DAY’s response but it is disappointing that they haven’t apologised once as far as I can see. Admitting they got it wrong, saying sorry and making a large payment to the nurse’s family would seem the minimum of ordinary human decency but we need to keep in mind the nature of the company we are dealing with.
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I disagree with these 2 being sacked. They were only doing their job. Given that most commercial radio programs have these prank call segments, more likely the idea would have been put forward by a producer or manager. The call was approved to air by lawyers.
Should the hosts get the sack I’d imagine they would take legal action against the station and the lawyers involved. Actually if I were them, I’d probably already be seeking legal advice.
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Lauren, they’re adults – they’re responsible for their own actions (as are the station managers & lawyers etc).
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The same could be said about the 48 year old nurse, but I have compassion for all parties in this incident and wish no more harm be had by anyone including the two radio hosts that will probably be houded till they meet the same fate to keep people like you happy!
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Oh for pity’s sake – I said nothing about ‘hounding’.
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Twice I have left jobs for moral/ ethical reasons, one back in 2003 after two months and the second earlier this year after working under a new boss for 6 months. The first time I was a junior and not earning much, the second time I was in a senior role earning quite a bit.
“Just doing your job” is not an excuse.
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Agreed – I have recently leaft for ethical reasons working in HR in the UK for a pathetic company.
I was instructed to ‘lean away’ from hiring people from a particular country. I was appalled, angry at being put into any kind of situation like that & so informed them I would be resigning & as of now am ‘leaning away’ from HR as a career altogether.
I refuse to ever use ‘Just doing my job’..Disgusting!
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Don’t be so quick to pull the ABC card… ABC are responsible for one of the biggest pranks where the Chasers boys, dressed as Osama Bin Laden, penetrated the Asia- Pacific Economic Cooperation (APEC) Leaders Summit….how do we know that the security people they bypassed did not lose their jobs?
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The problem is not the 2 DJ’s alone it’s the whole culture of 2DayFM. It’s shallow, celebrity obsessed, lowest common denominator ‘entertainment’. Dumbing down is understating 2DAyFM’s modus operandi. Oh wait, doesn’t mamma mia have a show on 2DAY FM ??? Lie down with dogs, get up with fleas. Shame on you for your association with the cultural pollution that is 2DayFM.
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See I don’t really like these kinds of digs and I think that whilst people are quite obviously outraged, there are many that want to put it into 2dayfm and are using this incident as an excuse to vent their rage about 2dayfm just in general.
Seeing as you detest the station, how was it that you heard of the incident? How was it that the people that you know heard about the incident. Simply put, I think all of us, the media and the general public are part of the problem, myself included!
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How was it she heard of the incident?!? Are you serious? It’s made international news; 2DayFM isn’t even broadcast in my state and I know of their reputation.
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That’s my point. If it wasn’t for the intense media saturation most of us would be none the wiser! Whilst the death likely wouldn’t have occured if the prank was not made, the fact that the world media ran with it relentlessly is part of the humiliation that was possibly suffered.
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The Duchess of Cambridge can’t get a haircut without it being international news. 2DayFM knew full well what they were doing would attract worldwide media attention.
We need to stop making excuses for these radio stations.
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Am I the only one who genuinely feels bad for the two hosts? I’ve never listened to their show, and I’d never heard of either of them until this event so they probably haven’t done anything too bad on air (unlike say Kyle Sandilands).
The fact is they got unlucky – radio shows have been doing prank calls for ages….all it took was to get someone in a bad psychological state for this to happen.
And in all fairness, everyone including Prince Charles was having a laugh about this up until the poor lass committed suicide.
Don’t get me wrong – I feel for the woman and her family, it is indeed a tragedy. But I think pointing the finger at the two hosts probably misses the point of a wider understanding of the causes of depression would be a better solution?
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The nurse didn’t consent to be broadcast on the radio. What the radio station did was illegal. The nurse may have been stressed, overworked, in a bad place emotionally, and this was just enough to push her over the edge.
If she had consented, then yes, I would feel sorry for the hosts. But she didn’t, so I don’t.
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I completely agree with you. My heart breaks for these two hosts. Jacintha’s suicide was not their fault, but the guilt they probably feel must be intense. I really hope they are getting the support they need, and that the hate-messages out there do not reach them. I find it horribly ironic that people are saying that “the hosts caused Jacintha to kill herself”. Do they not realise that comments like this could result in another tragedy?
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Excellently put.
It is true – there must have been other underlying issues that caused this poor lady to commit suicide, and we should be exploring those issues and understanding depression rather than pointing fingers.
I think the media in general have played a massive role in this saga – they caused the ‘prank’ to go viral in the first place. Come today, it may have all been forgotten by regular listeners if it weren’t for the media…
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I think you might be underestimating the enormity of what the nurse was faced with – international humiliation and embarrassment. For a woman who was by all accounts a bit shy and nervous, that would have been devastating.
But you are right in saying that many people have ‘underlying issues’. So, maybe that’s a good reason just to be rid of prank calls – you never know who may be affected by such calls.
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As ironic as it may seem, it appears that the people in charge of those in the ‘caring profession” possibly failed in providing the kind of support that Mel and Michael are currently receiving. The woman was being mocked worldwide, was quite possibly getting crap from colleagues and was seperated from her family. She must have felt like the most isolated person in the world. I think that we can be certain that the announcement from Austereo that they are receiving support is more than the lip service what we seemed to get from the hospital
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Agreed. You’re not the only one who’s actually thinking clearly about this and not getting caught up in the wave of revenge that seems to be sweeping up some people.
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You’re not the only one, I feel bad for the hosts too.
They’re pawns in a much larger game. The game of immature, bullying radio that hundreds of thousands of Australians support. The game of making a profit from making jokes at someone else’s expense.
My hope is that the tragedy will help to change how people view this kind of humour and help them develop a bit more empathy.
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Unfortunately when we laugh at someone else’s expense there is always the possibility that it will be ‘the straw that broke the camel’s back’…isn’t that why we teach our children not to do it?
I feel for the presenters, however it is no different to a drunk driver that causes an accident. Neither think their actions are too serious, neither think it will end badly, but both have seen plenty of examples in our society to make them aware that it is possible. Sad for them, certainly, but we all know what CAN happen when you humiliate someone.
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Great analogy. This is the way that I’ve thought about the tragedy since I heard of it.
Of course the hosts didn’t expect or want it … but if you bully and belittle people all the time, eventually you’ll come across one that’s unstable and will push them over the edge.
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Personally, I don’t care that the radio hosts are feeling ‘fragile’. Read the story. 2 youngsters lost their mother. One can imagine with the entire world throwing themselves at vilifying this nurse she felt more than ‘fragile’. Let’s talk consequences. All actions have them.
This station has a track record of using pranks as normal fodder. It’s not normal. It’s humiliation at a cheap dispense. What about all the other pranks the station and djs (do we call them such?) have pulled? 2Day needs to learn this is not ok. Pranks are just another form of bullying at the expense of those who have no clue what is going on.
The hospital obviously lacked forethought in not paying for a receptionist overnight and I hope they rectify that situation. They also claim to have been supporting the nurse in question. It doesn’t seem like they were. Someone would have picked up on her estranged state of mind and been able to help her.
It seems these DJs are getting more help than the nurse did. That is appalling.
Consequences. We teach small children about them; now it’s time to remind grown adults that you don’t get to act like idiots to others.
2 kids lost their mother. Their entire lives are changed and will never be the same.
And we’re to what? Coddle and protect the 2 idiots and a host of managers who approved this stunt? Why?
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“2Day needs to learn this is not ok. Pranks are just another form of bullying at the expense of those who have no clue what is going on. ”
yes, x 10.
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I agree that the tragedy here is that Jacintha has committed suicide.
However, vilifying the two hosts is not a solution to the problem, nor is it an appropriate response. The hosts did something insensitive and stupid. But we have all done insensitive and stupid things in our life times. This does not mean that we all deserve to be ‘blamed’ for the death of someone else etc. Jacintha’s suicide was not reasonably foreseeable by the hosts; they did not ’cause’ her death and it is very dangerous to express the view that they did. The hosts do need support because it would be absolutely awful if another tragedy came out of this already devastating situation.
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Every radio statio makes prank calls. Every day. 99.9999999999% of the time, nothing bad happens.
I say keep going with the pranks. We have to stop trying to be so politically correct, it’s making us boring.
This woman’s death is a tragedy, but it is not the fault of the radio DJ’s.
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Being PC has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with it. That’s just a phrase that people use when they don’t like the idea of being told that their words or actions are unacceptable. Like “I was just joking!” or “Just sayin’!” – these are meaningless phrases that people use as a defense when they are pulled up on poor behaviour. We teach our children that if it’s not funny for everyone then it’s bullying – why are we so ready to accept such infantile, offensive behaviour from grown adults? Because it’s the media?
If you think that prank humour is funny (and quite frankly, you’re either 14 or you need to broaden your definition of funny) then that’s your problem. The fact is that prank humour is always at the expense of someone’s dignity and therefore IS unacceptable behaviour. And I, for one, will call you or anyone else on it.
If there is ANY possible chance that someone could be hurt, either physically or psychologically, then this stupid pranks should never be done. And that’s not PC – that’s just actually giving a shit about the feelings of others. You should try it.
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Well that’s your opinion on the matter – but why the taunts in your post? I find that ‘style’ of writing borderline bullying in itself.
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Well I hope the hospital has learned from this too and puts a receptionist on to answer the phones overnight, so their nursing staff are not put in this position and patients dont have their privacy invaded in such a manner again.
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