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Hot wax, tweezers, excruciating pain and that’s all before the expense and insidious itch of regrowth. What is it about Brazilian waxes and why are we doing it to ourselves?

The issue moved out of the beauty salons and into the streets earlier this moth when the first ever ‘Muff March’ was held in central London.

With slogans including ‘Keep your mitts off our muffs!’ and ‘You’ve put my chuff in a huff!’ the group matched down Harley Street, the go-to street for cosmetic surgery in London. The Muff March included an appearance by the Muffia, sporting nude bodysuits with a bountiful display of lustrous pubic hair.

Organised by the group UK Feminista, the Muff March protested what they see as the pornography influenced obsession with removing pubic hair, and its association with a surge in the number of cosmetic vaginal surgeries taking place.

A report in the British Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology revealed that in 2008 the number of cosmetic vaginal procedures increased by 70% compared with the previous year: 1,118 labiaplasty operations (trimming or removing the labia) on the NHS. The private Harley Medical Group reported over 5,000 inquiries about cosmetic gynecology last year, 65% of which were for labial reduction, the rest for tightening and reshaping.

This move towards designer vaginas is seen as a direct result of the Brazilian, which has led women -and men- to scrutinise the area with a metaphoric fine toothcomb.

The idea of waxing legs, underarms and upper lip, just to start the list, is pretty uncontroversial. So why have our vaginas become a political battlefield?

According to UK feminist and author Caitlin Moran, there is only one reason why women are getting their lady-bits stripped bare: Porn. Moran argues that what started out as a industry decision in the late 80’s to get rid of pubic hair to help with lighting and camera angles has become part of many women’s standard maintenance routine, as uncontroversial as a half head of foils or a pedicure.

And let’s get rid of the euphemism Brazilian and call it what it is says Moran, “a ruinously high-maintenance, itchy, cold-looking child’s fanny”.

If we are getting Brazilians to feel ‘clean’ has the porn industry, run by men for men, succeeded in making us feel dirty? Are oversized inflatable boobs and a Brazilian now the acceptable standard for the female aesthetic? Are we ashamed? And where does vagazzeling fit into all of this?

The same week I read Moran’s chapter on Brazilians in her book How to be a Woman I saw the images from the 2012 Pirelli calendar and sure enough, every supermodel contorted in various ways was clearly hair free all over.  This was before I got to Mia’s tweet about the same calendar that featured Kate Moss: “Kate Moss’s nickname used to be Kate Bush. Not so much anymore”.

Moran doesn’t accept the argument that getting rid of pubic hair is no different to de-fuzzing any other part of our bodies. She sees removing other hair as simply an aesthetic decision, whereas vaginas are all about sexuality. If girls as young as 13 are really heading down to their beauticians to rid themselves of one of the first signs of womanhood, isn’t there something really wrong in the way we are approaching our bodies and sexual maturity?

As the Muff March highlighted, Moran isn’t the only one arguing that we should reclaim public hair (“keep it trimmed, keep it neat, but keep it what it’s supposed to be: an old-skool, born to rule, hot, right, grown woman’s muff”).  But their campaign raises the issue that the consequences of our visit to the beautician may be extend well beyond our pain threshold for hot wax.

Mihal is a freelance journalist from Melbourne living in the Netherlands. Shel enjoys watching trashy television and reading good books but with raising three little girls would settle for some solo bathroom time.

Is the Brazilian the new battleground for women? Are we doing it for ourselves and is it time for the muff to be reclaimed?

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  1. toradora

    i trim with a bikini line thingy keeps it nice and uniform. but really only because i’m uncomfortable any other way. i have very sensitive skin so i would never even consider a wax. my skin barely tolerates shaving.
    for me i found it reduces chafing doesnt get caught in net or lace undies and it looks good.
    i first did it cos i shaved my legs and went “hey why not” ive experimented and found what i like.
    it has nothing to do with my partner, other men or porn thank you very much.
    I made the decision for MYSELF. and i really wish people would stop telling me why i “really” do things when honestly they dont know jack sh*t about me!

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  2. simmy

    i honestly think that there is no need to make such a fuss about somebody’s preference to keep their pubic hair or not. enough said.

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  3. Joey

    I have never had a Brazilian.
    I have had bikini waxes less than 10 times in my whole life (I’m 27). I like to get the edges tidied up just in a natural v shape so hair doesn’t poke out of my bikini. I tell the beauticians this but often they sometimes STILL do that Hitler moustache thing – which I hate. I HATE it when they don’t do what you ask for. Generally I don’t bother anything more than a trim with one of those bikini trimmer things.
    I have never had a guy complain. Or ask me to get a brazilian. One guy did ask me if he could shave me (!!) and I told him “no way” and the topic never came up again. One boyfriend asked me when I was next going to wax and I told him it was none of his business – and the topic never came up again. (It was probably about 9 months later that I next got a wax too – haha).
    Maybe I have been lucky with my choice in men! I’m not scared of telling them to bugger off too so that probably helps!
    I also can’t understand how anyone can afford to get regular Brazilians. It seems like such a waste of money!

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  4. annab

    What an awesome march, I would love to join this movement. Those images from the Pirelli calender really disturbed me, as did the documentary I watched last year in whih the porn industry showed that when they did not digitally modify a hairless vagina to rid it of any obvious labia then they received a more severe classification from the censors than when they made a vagina look like a mound with a line down the middle.
    All young women and men should have to view the wall of vagina’s at Tasmania’s MONA. It blew my mind. It is the length f about three or four normal hallways and is composed of casts of healthy vagina’s in all their wonder and glory. My mind ws blown by the variety in shape and design of the mighty vagina, and thought it would be useful for young people to see that just like our faces, fingerprints, feet and hands no two vagina’s are the same and that is wonderful. Here is the link to the article already done by Mamamia about this amazing art work.

    http://www.mamamia.com.au/relationships/the-great-wall-of-vagina-nsfw/

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  5. dal

    I honestly can’t believe someone would voluntarily spread their legs for a complete stranger to have hot wax poured on their genitals and their pubic hair ripped out by the roots.

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  6. lacer

    There does seem to be a culture of hair free at the moment. Friends of mine with kids in their late teens and early 20′s are completely hairless. Even shaving their arms. I find it bizarre but maybe I’m old fashioned. So my only concern is that it is being normalised. Look I don’t care who does have muff and who doesn’t but I feel for the younger generation that they feel less than normal if they have pubes. Trends are scary. But each to their own, I myself must admit to needing at least a landing strip.

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  7. clarinette

    I see the line” I like looking like a woman” and actually, here’s what comes to mind: being exposed to my hippy mother’s atomic mushroom during teenage years has cured me of ever wanting to look like this.
    I took care of it before it got that bad. if there’s a weird psychological reason behind this, my philosophical answer would be “whatev’s”, if I used that word, which I most certainly do not.

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  8. Mod-mum

    I’m a woman, not a little girl.

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  9. JulC

    Good God! Wax or don’t wax. Lazer or don’t lazer. Muff or smooth it is up to you. I really don’t spend too much time thinking of other genitials except my own so I am happy to mind my own business.

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  10. georgiepie

    honestly, each to their own. :) My mum has a brazilian every month or so, she’s 46. I do a neat trim and I’m 19. So I don’t think it’s exclusively a young person thing!
    I don’t really want a brazilian, not interested! Bikini waxes are as far as I go. You keep it neat and there’s no ‘poking out’ or anything else that people say about full muffs!

    I feel pressured, and sometimes I think ‘maybe I should’ cos EVERYBODY has them now! you feel ‘dirty’., which is ridiculous cos it is completely natural. but really, if a guy doesn’t like that you’re not bald down there thats his f***ing problem. Most guys I know don’t care, as long as they’re getting some action they’re happy hahaha.

    although I had a guy ask me once ‘Why don’t you have a brazilian?’. I then asked ‘Why don’t you?’. He said ‘Cos it would hurt so m…’, looked at me and was like ‘Ohhhhh. Fair call’
    End of conversation hahaha

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    • dkmum

      Haha, LOVE your response! You could hear the penny drop!
      And you saved me writing a comment, <- what she said will do it for me ;o)

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    • annab

      Geogie that is an awesome reply. I would love to have been a fly on the wall.

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  11. anastasia

    i had my first brazilian was this year – aged 40…it felt amazing!!! clean even which is absurd as Im very hygenic.
    It was done for a summer holiday in Europe so it was wonderful hitting the beach and not having to worry about my bikini line
    Everything has grown back now and its actually a little wild right now so i think I will defn be getting a brazilian wax again – i need some lady grooming!
    i would never do laser though, i think its still risky as it hasnt been around for that long.

    oh and my grandmother let me know that both she and my grandfather used to shave/wax all their pubic hair too so maybe its not really a new trend after all….

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  12. Guest

    Oh…and my partner removes his pubic hair too. It goes both ways. That was new for me, but surprisingly nice. And I don’t think I’m with a little boy.

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  13. Guest

    I simply prefer how a brazilian feels. End of story. Not getting hung up on it, or reading too much into it. It.feels.good.

    As for surgery….I feel that this is an overstated concern. I would bet that the ‘concerned’ feminists rallying against ‘designer vagina’s’ probably have vagina’s in the normal range themselves and have never had to cope with what I imagine is the discomfort, angst and embarrassment of an abnormal vagina. Such women are being shamed for seeking surgery that may help them feel better.

    Most surgeons are ethical, believe it or not. If a woman went to a surgeon wanting a designer vagina for no good reason I’m sure they would be cautioned that they actually had a fine vagina. I really, really doubt that there is an huge trend for unnecessary designer vagina surgeries. It all sounds to me like women with legit problems. This sounds like a made up/exaggerated media trend.

    Brazilians – not a big deal. Surgery – rare, usually needed. No story here.

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    • Kate!

      The problem with this is that the vast majrity of us dont get to know what the full range of normal vulvas look like. They are tucked away on all the women we are likely to see nude. If they ever get in the general media they are airbrushed (its law) so that nothing protrudes. In porn, which is sadly, one of the only places in society you can get a graphic sexual education, they dont look like the wider population either. Porn favours a particular type of labia, which actresses get surgery for if necessary, and they remove all hair.

      So how anyone is meant to get an idea of whats normal is beyond me. No wodder so many women think what they have needs to be surgically corrected.

      Imagine if the ONLY way we ever got to see what womens thighs look like, was from a teenage magazine. Many of us who dont have teenage thighs would naturally come to the conclusion that ours were abnormal. Some would try to have their thighs altered to better match the ‘ideal’.

      It works for vulvas too.

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  14. Jess88

    Alright, I’m gonna say it: when I first decided to start getting Brazilian waxes I was 15, a virgin, going to a girls school and had never seen a porno movie or magazine. I got my information about Brazilian waxes and men preferring the from a women’s magazine! A la Cosmo and cleo! So I think we are judging men and the ‘made by men for men’ porno industry a little prematurely.
    (And at 23 I still love getting brazilians and can’t imagine doing anything differently)

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    • lacer

      But you said you decided to get it done because you read in magazines that men prefer it. So you didn’t do it for you self. You were young and impressionable and wanted to please, just saying. Now your older your obviously doing it because you now want to and your use to it.

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      • Jess88

        What I’m saying is I read it and got the idea to try it in WOMENS magazines. I think we’re just as much to blame as the men as a womens magazine in the mid 2000′s was promoting how much men enjoy it, so it’s not just the ‘made by men for men porno industry’ that influenced my choice but a magazine made by women for women. Also, I’m not still doing it because I’m ‘used to it’ I’ve let it grow out into a bush and I prefer feeling smooth and clean, and when I say clean I am not implying that I think my vulva is dirty, but that I find that during excersize there’s less sweat and during my period there’s no matting of blood and hair.

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  15. SSB

    Conversation with my girlies over lunch and champagne last week was all about this – in a group of four there was
    1. The Bald Brazillan,
    2. The Landing Strip
    3. Just Wax the Koala Ears Thanks
    4. The SSB – Seventies Style Bush.

    I asked my husband what he would really prefer, and his reply was “I don’t care about the decor as long as I’m invited to the party.

    ‘Muff said.

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  16. sexsy time

    I shave every once in a while when I can be bothered, and I do it for me. Its a great turn on and I enjoy sex more when it is shaved. I hate it when things get ‘tangled’ down there when hubby is doing his thing. I would never wax, I dont like the idea of hot wax and pulling being down there… too sensitive.

    why does everything these days need to be political?

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  17. ChiChi

    I remember reading somewhere in an old sex ed book at about age 14 that pubic hair is there as it acts as a buffer between sexual activity friction ;)

    I can barely afford my 6 week hair dressing appointments let alone a brazilian

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    • anastasia

      its also a barrier for infections and smell too

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  18. Vicky V

    What a fabulous idea! When is it coming to Aus? I know far too many women (myself included) who have been shamed into thinking they are dirty or less attractive for having pubic hair. One of my closest friends was even thinking of surgery to ‘get rid of the dangly bits’. The attitude is widespread, completely ridiculous and definitely needs to be addressed. By publicly marching these women are basically refusing to keep quiet, to confront the stigma attached to this issue head-on and challenge what has somehow become the dominant discourse. Bravo I say.

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  19. Dee of Adelaide

    I’m aghast at how ‘normal’ no bush has become in the past decade.

    Big Fella had only ever seen a full bush when we met 10 years ago (and quite frankly he was pretty slutty lol). Sure a few years ago we gave it a go for a lark (both of us…I wasn’t if he wasn’t!) but neither could see the appeal.

    What totally freaks me out is that blokes who have been single for the last 10 years went from only seeing bush to not laying eyes on one. Then I talk to younger lads (cousins/tradies…lots of young people have a beer around here lol) and they have never seen pubic hair.

    I can go into why…but I’m off to mothers group christmas dinner..but personally I think that is absolutely awful that the vast majority of young people think their muff needs to be altered in any way, shape or form.

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  20. Chrissy

    Having had what is now known as a Brazilian for 24 years now out of personal choice, I take offence that the porn industry is supposedly dictating my reasons for being hair free.

    What right do people have to tell me to sport hair if I do not want to. I have my reasons for not wanting pubic hair and they are frankly none of anyone’s business and certainly not something I should be judged for!

    After all – I have also chosen not to have hair on my legs or under my arms for that amount of time also and I dont see an uproar about that!

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  21. La Bella Figura

    I’ve never had a Brazilian wax but have shaved it all off, down to a one, shaved underneath, left natural, landing strip etc. I’ve never thought about my husband when I do this stuff it’s more about how I feel or mood I’m in. I never feel pressure from him. I went out with a guy who was obsessed with porn and starting waxing and shaving his whole body. It made his body feel too feminine and was a real turn off for me. I don’t think women look like girls with a Brazilia but I get it. Do what you want and what makes you feel good. I hate reading comments with women getting pressured to get brazilians and pressure on young girls. I definitely agree that there is huge pressure on women to look a certain way because of porn. I’ve watched a bit of old school porn and it’s funny seeing everyone with a bush and then everyone completely bare! I also hate seeing so many comments about feeling clean like the vulva is dirty? It’s why most of us are taught that the vulva and vagina is unclean it’s silly.or that vulva and vagina are dirty words. I was watching tv the other night and a guest on a talk show muttered vagina and this is a show with swearing etc. Surgery to look like a pornstar or someone making a stupid comment nix that thought, surgery because you are genuinely unhappy and will help you – do it. I do remember reading in Mia’s auto she got got brazilians….

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  22. Mary Christmas

    No Brazilians for me. I sport the lesser known ‘Siberian’.

    P.S I think removing all your pubic hair is odd.

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    • femme

      That is awesome!
      Can I steal that line?

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  23. another anon

    To be honest, this post (and all the comments) gave me a giggle… seriously the pics were funny. Yes, I get it that this was a serious protest, but its a little bit comical too (or is it just me?)

    I dont care how anyone “grooms” their bits… it is all a matter of personal choice. I dont think it makes you anti- feminist if you do wax, or anti-porn cause you dont. Dont judge people for how they want to deal with their bodies, so long as noone is getting hurt, what difference does it make?

    What I do mind is the pressure placed on young women in particular to modify themselves to fit into the “cultural norm”… whatever that may be this year.

    Also, must say I get a laugh out of guys comments about not wanting “pubes in their teeth”… do they not realise that they too have pubes, and their partners manage to cope just fine! lol ;) Why cant they just fess us and say they like how it looks/feels/whatever it is they like about it?! Again, if noone is getting hurt/pressured then whats the harm?

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  24. anon

    I like to have pubes. I like to look like a woman and not a young girl before puberty.

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    • Diana

      How many times are we going to hear this silly argument. I’ll let you in on a little secret, once you have a brazilian all that happens is you lose your pubic hair for a few weeks. You don’t lose your hips or your breasts, you don’t lose your ability to carry an intelligent adult conversation and you don’t suddenly go back to your pre-pubescent years. There is no magic involved, a spatula and some hot wax can’t turn you into a young girl, you still look like a grown woman, the exact same woman you looked like before but who has waxed her pubic hair.

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      • anon

        If you are looking directly at a hairless vulva it looks like a vulva pre-puberty (that’s my little secret for you).

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        • Diana

          I guess some people’s minds go to strange places that I can’t understand. I can’t imagine the issues you must have if that’s what you think about.

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          • anon

            If you showed the general population a photo of a hairless vulva most would assume that it was a child’s due to the absence of pubes which indicates the onset of puberty.

            I love the way you assume I have ‘issues’ because I too would draw the same conclusion.

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          • Alice

            Someone having an opinion different to yours is evidence they have “issues”, Diana? Woah.

            Or are you resorting to a lame personal attack to silence opponents rather than producing a well thought out argument? Yep, thought so.

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        • Nicki

          Mine doesn’t

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        • Nico

          I’ve looked at many hairless vulvas in my time, and I never thought they looked like a child’s.

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  25. The other Belle

    How is it that porn is the only reason you hear cited for women removing pubic hair – you do realise that women (and men) have been doing it for religious reasons since way before porn became mainstream ? Correct me if I’m wrong, but I understand that some muslims remove pubic hair in line with a teaching regarding hygiene/purification that requires removal after no more than forty nights growth. I don’t raise this to invite any questioning of this practice but rather to add some thought to this idea that women have only come around to pube removal due to the influence of porn. Perhaps some women out there doing it for religious reasons gave the heads up to some of their girlfriends that the smooth hair free sensation doesn’t feel too bad at all – and the word spread from there !
    Oh, and my two cents worth – if you’re going to remove the bush or even just the bikini line, for the love of anyone you worship, go the laser option if it’s appropriate for your skin/hair type. Lasering the “pubic mound” will have you briefly wimpering for your mummy but the rest is far more tolerable. Even if lasering my bikini line had hurt as much as the mound I would have endured it to reap the long term gain of being bikini/underwear ready 24/7.

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    • Flotsam

      I think (some) Muslims remove armpit and pubic hair every 40 days, so “Brazillians” are certainly not a new thing!

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  26. Sandi

    There are far more important issues to discuss regarding women, their rights and sexual freedoms than whether or not one’s pubic area is hairy or not.

    What about FGM? What about Burquas? What about coerced marriages? The plight of that poor rape victim who had her rapists baby and was jailed for adultery who has been told after 2 years in jail that she can leave jail as long as she marries her rapist!! And her family is strongly recommending it!

    Whether or not you shave, wax or leave it alone, does it really matter?

    Get some perspective!

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    • Tripitaka

      I agree that it doesn’t really matter on an individual level, people can do what they want. But on a larger scale, it is interesting to theorise as to why it’s changing – that is, why more women are getting Brazilians and labiaplasty. It reflects on our wider culture and the place women hold within that culture.

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      • Rebecca

        Exactly – I can’t get enthused about attacking an individual for doing it, but the mainstreaming of it is troubling. (Valid) other arguments aside, it is REALLY expensive to maintain a hair free vag! I can’t justify the expense and it bothers me that I’m in a minority and considered ugly because of this. I also think it’s a bit of a cop-out to say it isn’t anti-feminist, or it’s an issue of ‘cleanliness’. Don’t most people have a shower pretty much every day? How could your pubes be dirty?

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  27. Me Myself I

    Am I the only women out there whose husband loves a full bush? BTW when my son was little he once called it my hairy doodle!! Ha ha

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    • Anon

      Nope, mine does too…

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  28. Anonymous

    i was having this conversation with my mum the other day. i was in the gynaecologist with her and about to have a pap smear and she was sitting across the room reading a magazine, i stripped down and took off my pants and undies. when we got out of the doctors, she asked me where my public hair was and said it looked terrible bald. i said i never have any because i got it lasered off about a year ago (im 21), she was literally in shock at the thought that i now permanently had no public hair. i explained that its quite common in this day and age and that the majority of my friends had none or only a tiny bit and she literally couldnt believe that this is what we preferred. to me being hairless looks better, feels better, smells less and feels more hygienic. having sex feels amazing and i dont stress when my partner gives me oral and i can where the skimpiest bikini, lingerie or short shorts without having to worry about how they look or are sitting. ive never felt pressured by a guy, its just my preference and i certainly dont look any less womanly for not having hair down there!

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    • lucindainthesky

      Woah. I’d never have a pap smear while my mother was in the same room… that’s all a little weird from where I’m sitting… and whatever happened to wearing a skirt so that you can discreetly slip your undies off?

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      • Mel

        I have to agree with this – you’re 21 And you take your mum to the dr with you for a pap smear?!?

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      • The other Belle

        Perhaps weird if you consider your mother (whose vagina you came out of) seeing you naked is weird. I’m sure her mother wasn’t down there holding the speculum for the doctor and taking an internal look !

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        • lucindainthesky

          Well actually I don’t see any real need for my mother to see me naked, and certainly not while a doctor is about to stick a cold metal instrument up my clacker. In fact I see no need for an adult to need their mother at the doctor at all. I’m quite sure I’m not in the minority here!

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          • Anonymous

            honestly, the waiting room was packed with people and there was no where to sit and we had been shopping and doing errands all day which is why she came in the first place. the doctors office was huge and had three chairs on the other side of the room where she sat while reading a magazine, the doctor left to let me get unchanged which i did while chatting to my mum about random things… its not like i gave her fricken striptease, im not uncomfortable about me body at all and she’s my mother i really couldn’t care less if she saw me naked and its not like she was staring at me trying to analyse my body she just happened to notice. Seriously don’t be so snarky, ive had friends take their boyfriends and friends and its really no big deal, unless ur a complete prude that is.

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            • Kris2040

              I don’t think it’s that freaky at all. Mum sees me naked a lot – doesn’t faze me or her at all. We saw her and Dad naked a lot growing up, it’s no big deal.

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            • essessesse

              I don’t think it’s fair to call the people who are puzzled by your actions prudes anymore than it would be for them to call you an exhibitionist.

              I was a womens health nurse for years and I never had a woman bring a mother, sister, friend, husband or boyfriend into the room when they had their smear test. It’s normal for you and some of your friends but you are not in the majority.

              As for your earlier comment about the smell, I don’t know why you seem to think that women with pubic hair smell any more than you would. There is a distinct odour to the vaginal area but it’s not offensive, unless of course there is an infection or the woman doesn’t wash!

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    • Anonymous

      I completely agree with everything you said. I am 22 and have had laser also, I believe that it was one of the best beauty treatments I have ever spent money on. Maybe it has something to do with our age, and to those who think it’s weird that your mother gets a glimpse of you slightly naked…have you ever had to put on self tanner by yourself?…probably not, but its not the end of the world. It could be much worse.

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      • Anonymous

        What’s putting self tanner on got to do with it? Am I really the only one who thinks it’s weird to get naked in front of their parents after the age of puberty?

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        • Anonymous

          Ok…. there was a post not that long ago on this site about we all have different levels of comfort being nude and how some people have been raised in open households where parents and siblings dont really care about things like doing a nudie run to the shower etc, where other families never ever go nude or partially nude around each other and think its weird to do so. im from a fairly open family, im very close to my mum and two sisters and female cousins etc and even female friends and have been raised in a household that thinks nothing of (like the above poster said) tanning each other, or showing each other if theres a strange lump on our boob or a rash on our bum for example. my cousin is beautician and regularly comes to our house to give me a spray tan in which i am completely nude and she has to close spray my entire body 30cm away for 10-15 mins. My mum used to be a dress-maker and often would alter things while we were wearing them but just bras and undies underneath, or what about shopping with girlfriends?… havent you ever been shopping and shared a change room because the others are full?…. your not in there to check each other out, its just practical. Have you never been swimming at a local pool?… there are always tons of women (usually older) who couldnt give a damn and get completely naked while changing and again your not that to check them out either you just do your thing and mind your business. I get that you may have been raised in a more conservative household which is why my behaviour in allowing my mum to sit in on my dr appointment might have seen alien to you, but honestly i didnt even think twice about it, i didnt completely naked in the room, i just took my bottoms off half behind a curtain and got on the bed while talking to her, as i said im completely comfortable with my body and have been raised in a family where the females are quite close. I honestly feel more comfortable getting naked in front of her or my sister/cousin/best friend than in front of a stranger waxing, spray tanning me or a dr conducting a medical procedure, i really don’t get how that is strange at all.

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          • lucindainthesky

            I wouldn’t see any necessity in being completely nude for a spray tan either though. I have had spray tans in a g-string but see no practical reason to to have your vulva coated in fake tan product.

            if you feel comfortable doing nudie runs from the shower, cool. I wasn’t meaning to offend. I’m not a prude at all. I just think beyond the age of puberty, there’s not often a time where there it is necessary or unavoidable to be nude in front of parents. There just becomes a time where privacy is important for most people, that’s all. Why would I do a nudie run from the shower if I could just wrap a bloody towel around me? I would have no shame in ironing my clothes wearing just my underwear, or walking around in my bathers. I never have. I just see no real reason to flaunt my girly bits if I don’t need to.

            I am glad for you that you have such a level of comfort with your mother. I would not be embarrassed about my mother seeing my body if it were out of neccessity or unavoidable. I am close to my mum and I trust her very much. But we’re not a family of exhibitionists either. I would find it odd if one of my sisters just stripped off nude when they could just as easily get changed in another room. I just think theyre called your “private bits” for a reason.

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      • Anonymous

        I have been reading all of these posts and indeed the actual article an note that all of you seem to overlook an interesting point???… Have any of you asked the purpose of pubic hair? Has it crossed your minds that perhaps apart from providing cushioning for your pelvis during intercourse there is a reason this hair???? As a beautician for over 19 years , I now refuse to perform this service. In the last 10 years, since brazilians have come IN… there has been a rise in labiaplasty for many reasons. First the lack of elastin in the area , continuous manipulation of this area tears these fibers and creates very large labia secondly, the hair acts as a hygienic barrier just as nasal hair filters viruses from entering your body, woman who get a brazwax are 65% more likely to contract Candida!! think about that!

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    • Eloise

      Wow, Anonymous, not quite sure why having your mum there got such a dramatic reaction!

      I know several people who take someone with them while they have pap smears or similar – for various reasons. No big deal :)

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      • Anonymous

        Thank you Eloise! I really don’t understand either!

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    • janellec68

      So what was the approx cost of all that lasering? I’m thinking of getting my armpits done & was wondering how exy it really is.

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  29. Too Old For Netball But Can't Stop Playing

    Gee, this has turned into a prickly issue. ;)

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  30. Map of Tasmania

    Surely this song (by Amanda Palmer) has to be the Muff March theme song?
    http://youtu.be/rcoreV10hI8

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  31. Girl, 16

    I think it is an issue that hairless is fast becoming seen as ‘normal’ or ‘right’, while having hair is seen as ‘gross’. There is so much pressure on teenage girls now to look a certain way.
    “No one likes a hairy vagina” has been laughingly said by boys – and girls – many times in the schoolyard, or, “Girls who don’t shave the bush, Australia says no”.
    The first time someone mentioned the issue to me was back in 2007, when a couple of girls went around the class asking the girls, ‘Do you have a hairy fanny?’ then sniggering if anyone said yes or refused to answer.
    We were 12.
    I believe if you’re doing it for your own reasons and it’s your choice, go ahead. What you do with your bits is your business. I just HATE this thing of “if you don’t shave/wax your pubes, you’re disgusting”, or in the words of one teenage girl on Facebook, ‘Not shaving [your pubes] is grooooooooss’.
    I mean, can’t we just accept that girls having body hair is ok??

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    • christinedavie

      THERE IT IS….. that is precisely the reason for this muff march – a 16 yo feeling pressure to conform to something that was probably only invented to raise cash…. Thanks GIRL 16…

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    • Petal

      Girl 16 please try not to listen the immature ramblings of teenage boys, or girls, for that matter. Stick to your own beliefs. What ever you do to your body must be your own decision.

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    • Kate!

      Good for you Girl, 16!

      This ‘culture of shaming’ influences a persons ‘choices’ later in life, even when they have physically left it all behind. It is about arbitrarily defining something as *desirable* (thin, sporty, heterosexual, shaven) and brutally shaming anyone who is different. No one wants to be thought of as gross or disgusting, and even when you gain the maturity and rational skills to dismiss it, it often sticks with you subconsciously.

      And it doesnt just happen in the school yard. A similar ‘shaming’ message is inferred by the portrayal in porn of shaved genitalia as the sexy ideal. Which is why I dont believe people who say they have just spontaneously decided that a shaved muff looks better.

      It takes a very brave and self-aware person to be unaffected by it.

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      • Girl, 16

        What I hate is, even though you tell yourself, ‘it’s just society being stupid’, or ‘it’s just the patriarchy trying to dictate your life, don’t pay attention’, it is hard. Even if you’re a feminist who proudly declares you make your own choices, you still get that crappy feeling of shame whenever someone makes a crack about “hairy vaginas are disgusting”. You still get that little niggling of insecurity when you’re with your boyfriend wondering, “Does he think it’s gross I don’t wax?”
        I was brought up a feminist, I have a strong mind of my own, but God knows it’s hard to hear all the negativity and not feel like crap, even just for a moment.

        Patriarchy, you suck.

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        • Kate!

          It gets better Girl, 16. In the experience of many, school is the harshest place, and the rest of the world is not like that. In the rest of the world there are loads of people who will love you just for being you and dont consider your pubic hair any of their business. And plenty of hetero blokes just love all sorts of women’s bodies, and dont care about all the body things women fret about.

          Hang in there!

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        • the Original Camille

          ask the boys if they would shave their pubes-or if in fact they shave at all…

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    • lacer

      You sound very wise for a 16yr old!

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    • lacer

      Peer pressure at a young age can be very damaging. I’m currently going thru a phase with my 11yr old daughter.I’ve noticed slight under arm hair, thruthfully very light and new. But just yesterday I noticed it has been shaved. She didn’t ask my advise, she didn’t even tell me. I know it’s peer pressure because she’s talked about a couple of girls at school who shave their legs because they are dancers and they are hairy. I would have waxed it or used cream if she wanted to get rid of it, it does scare me because this is the first step to doing what her friends do. I’ve said it here before I’m not raising sheep and I don’t want her to follow the crowd. Let’s hope at this age she doesn’t decide to shave anything else.
      Any advise pls

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  32. lucindainthesky

    Wow. Who would have thought so many people would be interested in discussing pubic hair? To me there is nothing fun about itchy regrowth and ingrown hairs. I do however groom and epilate/wax enough so that the muff can’t escape my undies. Sometimes I just leave a “landing strip” depending on how much pain im willing to put up with. But I aint waxing my butt crack for anyone. That is all.

    So, shall we discuss anal bleaching next?

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  33. Its a vulva!

    When can we start using the correct terminology for womens genitalia? Its a VULVA. My vagina is essentially a hole through which I gave birth to my kids, amongst other functions. It has no hair in it or on it.

    According to Wikipedia, the vulva consists of labia majora, mons pubis, labia minora, clitoris, bulb of vestibule, vulval vestibule, greater and lesser vestibular glands, and the opening of the vagina.

    How many of us could confidently identify every one of these? That number wont improve if we keep referring to the whole lot as ‘the vagina’.

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    • Mooner

      OMG I am so glad someone else objects to the ridiculous misuse of the word vagina to describe the entire pubic area. I know Mamamia has mentioned many many times over the years that the reason they use vagina instead of vulva is because that is what everyone else does, so they are just using the ‘commonly accepted terminology’.

      However, in my life that’s not the case. No one who I have ever really discussed women’s genitals with (not that many people I guess!) calls the entire pubic area a ‘vagina’ – it seems to be an internet phenomenon… or something.

      I wish people would start using ‘vulva’ because that is the correct word and – as weird a word as it sounds – using it more word normalise it and give the area a proper ‘commonly accepted term’!!!

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  34. Just Saying

    The group protested to get publicity knowing this issue and the photos would make the rounds in the media.

    I personally believe porn is the direct reason for the huge rise in demand for brazilians.

    Saying porn has no influence on human behaviour or sexual desire is like saying advertising doesn’t work.

    I had a brazilian once but hated having hot wax poured directly on my lady bits.

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  35. Anon

    Why does the reference to partners always seem to assume male? I am bisexual and have been with both bisexual and lesbian females and I prefer very well trimmed or brazilian for practicalities. I certainly don’t have an attraction to prepubescent girls but if I am going down on a woman its nice not to get pubic hair stuck in my teeth and I imagine that’s how a lot of men feel too. The insinuation of being paedophile if you prefer a naked muff is just ridiculous!

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    • alyssakt

      Why does removing the hair around the “action” mean that the hair on top has to go too? I don’t need to munch on someone’s pubic mound – hair or no hair.

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      • Anon

        I didn’t say it had to be nude. I prefer very well trimmed OR nude and choose to keep a little triangle myself.

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        • Anon

          Also, my husband actually removes or trims his pubes as well so it does work both ways. I know a lot of men that at keep very neat so its not a case of men demanding women be bare and keeping all hairy themselves.

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  36. Running Hare

    This hairy old chestnut.

    Oh god……it’s your muff, do what you will with it.

    Don’t get competitive, judgmental or try to keep up with the Jones’ muffs.

    I find it hard to think of a more individual and private choice.

    Make the choice that’s best for you and don’t worry whether you’re a victim of an international porn conspiracy.

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  37. rubyred

    Are we surprised that this issue isnt being taken seriously? You can’t whack some wool on your nickers to resemble pubic hair AND be taken seriously – this is embarrassing to me.

    Maybe the focus should be on the govt regulations that insist on labias being photoshopped out of magazines – that’s the real issue when it come to an increase in labiaplasty.

    And just to correct a few misstatements among these comments:

    Pubic hair is not just a biological accident that forces us to the waxing salon. It serves three critical functions. First, it protects the delicate vagina. Second, it serves as a reproductive billboard to alert potential mates that you are biologically (if not emotionally) prepared to procreate. And last, it’s a pheromone carpet and traps the scents that lead potential mates to the promised land. So you might think twice before you shave it all off. It’s there for a reason.

    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/owning-pink/201104/15-crazy-things-about-vaginas

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    • Peta-Jo

      Thanks Ruby Red, I was just about to post the EXACT same article…

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    • Holly

      Thanks Rubyred, I wanted to say something like this but am feeling a bit tired and the words just wouldn’t come out right! You’ve pretty much summed up everything I wanted to say but much more eloquently, thank you!

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  38. Katie

    I braz wax but I’m not quite sure why I need to justify it or why someone should care what I look like naked ..to each their own…also never had a prob with itchiness.. eww..

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  39. Guest

    I will never understand why people think that pubic hair is ugly. Call me old fashioned but personally I think a naked muff is ugly and certainly not at all natual looking. I’ll take pubic hair over waxing pain and the intense itch of hair growing back (yes I did try it once) any day, thanks!

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  40. Anonymous

    Where there is hair, there is smell. That is all.

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    • Kate!

      Umm, actually hair doesnt smell. Bacteria does. And bacteria doesnt need hair to be present.

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      • rubyred

        Ummm the hair is there to trap the vaginal scent (among other things).

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    • Lulu

      Where there is washing, there is much less smell.

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    • Snap!!

      And this is where the problem lies. When pubic hair is equated with poor hygeine and smell then we have a real problem don’t we? Women shouldn’t be under pressure to painfully remove their pubic hair when there is an inaccurate perception that it is unhygienic.

      That is a very ignorant comment.

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      • femme

        Snap! Snap!!

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      • rubyred

        It’s really not that ignorant – the comment said nothing about being unhygenic – it just said where there is hair there is smell and that’s correct.

        Some women’s vaginal smells are a lot stronger than others and if the hair is there to trap the smell in, then how can we judge another woman who feels that her scent is too strong?

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        • Snap!!

          To say that something smells implies it is unhygenic. Also removing your pubic hair doesn’t mean you still won’t smell. I shave my underarms but I still get BO.

          And please don’t pull the judgement card out on me, there was absolutely none there, if anything “anonymous” was judgemental.

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          • rubyred

            Relax – I said how can WE judge a woman who thinks her scent is too strong?

            You know, collectively as women.

            If I think my muff smells unpleasant then I should be able to wax til my hearts content.

            Trust me when I say that removing the hair will help to reduce the natural vaginal smells.

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            • Snap!!

              If the smell is that strong then a visit to the doctor may be in order. Genuinely.

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        • Lulu

          But we don’t shave our heads bald because OMG hair smells. We just, you know, WASH it.

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          • rubyred

            If pungent vaginal mucous starts coming out of my scalp and getting trapped in my hair – then let’s talk about comparing my head to my vagina.

            Until then, there is NO comparison.

            If you have never had an issue with a smelly vagina then keep your ‘just wash it’ opinions to yourself – incredibly insensitive.

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            • Lulu

              If that does happen, that’s not a cosmetic problem – it’s a medical one, which affects a far smaller number of women that those who are getting brazilians. Washing should take care of non-medical smells, the same way any other part of your body needs to be kept clean.

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            • rubyred

              Oh thanks for those words of wisdom Dr Lulu – I never thought of washing it!

              My problem is solved – cant believe all those doctors and gyno’s I went to see didn’t tell me to – just wash it. *hits palm on forehead*

              I wasn’t offering this up as a reason for the Brazilian epidemic – it was a little side discussion about the fact that some vaginas smell more than others and that being hairless can help with that – it’s a medical fact.

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            • Susan As Well

              I get it ruby. In my nursing career, have come across many women who have a strong, pungent vaginal odour which occurs naturally. The women don’t like the attention that it attracts and fair enough if they remove pubic hair which traps the odour.

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            • Lulu

              Ruby – I said ‘NON-medical smells’. And don’t go off at me because I don’t have ESP about someone’s specific medical issues. I made the ‘wash it’ comment because some women think everyone who doesn’t remove hair is dirty.

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            • rubyred

              Thank you Susan As Well!!! It’s that simple.

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          • Anonymous

            I shower twice a day, but if I don’t wear deoderant my underarms will still smell. Washing will only take care of odour for an hour or two.

            I wax, and I have no noticeable odour down there, which wasn’t the case when I didn’t wax, especially during my period or after heavy exercise. I prefer that.

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    • Nico

      Where there is the option to comment anonymously, there are rude cowards hiding behind it. That is all.

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    • Peta-Jo

      Where there is hair, there is pheromones!

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      • Angela

        As Napolean said to Josephine:

        “Don’t wash”

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  41. Kate!

    Coersion to remove your public hair doesnt have to be in the form of ‘tying people to a tabel and forcing them’ (to quote another post). It is more subtle than that, which is why many women with bald genitalia think they do it to themselves with ‘free choice’ and ‘personal preference’. I think if they were to be really honest, they would admit that they also think that a natural public hair looks ugly or dirty, that ‘hairy’ is a bad thing, that labia look better when they are small, neat and pink, or that an adolescent body is easier on the eye than a womanly body with hair, saggy bits and various rolls and dimples.

    These sorts of ‘personal preferences’ arnt formed spontaneously out of thin air. And certainly not by lots of people all at the same time. They come as a result of insidious messages women get from many sources about what it is to be attractive, good, feminine, successful etc. And when these influences result in a huge increase in women and girls wishing to alter the appearance of their genitalia, including surgically, its naive in the extreme to argue that its ‘just a matter of personal preference’.

    And that is why this is still an important conversation to be having.

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    • Kris2040

      Yeah, I doubt anyone sits there thinking “You know what would be awesome? No hair on my fanny. Now, how to go about it??” without getting the idea from somewhere else.

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      • Anon for this one

        At the risk of giving TMI, that’s exactly what happened to me. Ever since I started getting hair, it really bugged me. It would get caught in my underwear and pull, or get stuck to the sticky bits of pad wings (when I wore pads), it would get itchy when I wore jeans or stockings, it would make me sweatier in summer and just felt uncomfortable.

        When I was 16, I got the scissors, cut them shorter so that I could use my leg razor to just shave it all off. I had already started shaving the bikini line for when I wore swimmers, so my logic was “Just go further”. No-one else gave me the idea. It was itchy at first (and i regretted doing it for about 2 days) then I’ve never looked back.

        I did it purely for my own comfort, which is exactly what I got. Then, once I became sexually active at 17, I realised how much more pleasurable sex felt (for me) when I was hair free, as opposed to when I’d let it grow back a bit due to laziness/lack of funds to get a wax.

        Each to their own, I say.

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      • Emma in Melbourne-land

        At risk of giving TMI….I starting shaving my pubic hair off when I first got it around 12-13. Didn’t like the look of it from the start. Oh, and every other naked woman I’d seen up until that point did little to no maintenance on their pubic hair…so there you go. Some of us do just do it.

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    • Running Hare

      Coercion? There is absolutely no coercion involved in waxing one’s pubes.

      I strongly disagree that this is an important conversation.

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      • Kris2040

        Comments on this post and others when it’s been brought up beg to differ, Running Hare. Plenty of people say they do/have done brazilians to keep their boyfriends happy, or because they told them to.

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        • JK

          Kris, they don’t really, it’s only a small number who say that unless I didn’t read all the comments carefully enough? From what I gather, most women have brazillians because they like them however the women who hate brazillians are trying to convince them that they’re wrong and that they’re really having them because they’ve been brainwashed by the porn industry. That’s my understanding anyway.

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          • Kris2040

            Most SAY they get them because they like them. I didn’t say most people are coerced. I was pointing out that there are people who have got them because of pressure frelt from partners/friends/whoever.
            I don’t think people have been brainwashed by the porn industry. I do think that brazilians have become mainstream as porn has become more accessible and people think that they’re a natural part of “women’s grooming”, and we also start getting comments like “What’s so wrong with doing something for your partner?”. Do guys do something painful like getting a brazilian every couple of months for their partners?

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            • Anonymous

              “Do guys do something painful like getting a brazilian every couple of months for their partners?”

              Yeah, quite a lot do. The waxer I go to told me men make up about 40% of her clientele for brazilians/manzilians and about 20% for other waxing (back, chest etc.) Most guys I know have tried it.

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            • Kris2040

              Is that for their girlfriends or for in front of others though?
              I’ve never been with anyone who has had any kind of waxing done around their genitals.

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            • Anonymous

              She said she had a handful of athletes/bodybuilders, but that most of the guys were sent by their partners.

              The guys I know have a done it for their partners, usually because they were specifically asked to. I’ve been with two guys who got waxed regularly. I don’t think it’s at all rare these days.

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            • tstrachan

              I’m a husband, married for nearly 18-years, and I’ll admit that I asked my wife to wax her vulva in the early days of our marriage because I wanted to see how it looked and felt, but in my defence I started getting my genitals, tummy & chest waxed in 2001. Initially I did it because I felt that if she was waxing herself for me, then I should at least understand what’s she’s putting herself through on my behalf, and there was also the simple curiosity of what it would look and feel like for me. Wow. I liked the look of myself hair-free from the upper thighs to my neck, and the sensation while making love, literally skin-to-skin was amazing…and she really loves the feeling too. My wife is keeping her triangle (because we think some hair on the mound is sexy) but she is getting her labia, legs and underarms lasered, and I’m getting my tummy, chest, neck and face lasered too. We are choosing to do this both for ourselves and for each other, but it is very much an individual choice that should never be forced or coerced, and I would respect (and enjoy) her whether she’s hair-free or comparable to the Amazon rain forest because I love who she is, not what she looks like.

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          • Kris2040

            See above comments from a 16 year old.

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    • picardie.girl

      I really, really like this comment, Kate!

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  42. LellaK

    I really, really hate the ‘look like a child’ reference. I have boobs, hips, and some stretch marks. I dont look like a child regardless of how much covering i have down there. I do it because i swim and run a lot and i find it keeps my area cleaner, plus – i just bloody like it.

    Also for the views on ‘dont do it for your man’ – don’t we do things to just please our partners anymore? Obviously I’m not talking about the ones who place pressure on their partners to do so or ‘expect’ it, but wax as a surprise or to keep all parties happy shouldnt be such a big deal

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    • Jess in Melbourne

      Agreed!

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  43. JK

    Am I the only one who is sick of this topic? It has been discussed to death and I don’t think there is anything new that can be added. How about next time we feel like talking about vaginas, we talk about pap smears and why so many women are reluctant to have them and how we can help them overcome their fears.

    Like someone else has already said, this is the most ridiculous march I have ever heard of. I am an intelligent educated grown woman and I laser mine off. Not because someone has bullied me into it, my partner doesn’t care, but because I want to. It’s just a personal preference and it really is as simple as that.

    If porn is so influental and we are just sheep who do everything we see in porn then how come most women don’t have bleached blonde hair, an orange tan and big watermelon-like fake breasts? I think how you decide to groom your privates is a personal preference no different to how some women like to wear casual clothes and others like to dress up, some like to colour their hair, others don’t etc.

    Should we start protesting those things too? Should we start protesting everything we don’t agree with regardelss of the fact that it has no bearing whatsoever on our life? I find it difficult to comprahend what some women in the first world with too much time on their hands will do.

    Out of all the things that are wrong with this world – racism, homophobia, poverty, child abuse, cancer (to name just a few) and someone takes time out of their day to attend a march about pubic hair. Ridiculous doesn’t begin to describe it!

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    • Emma in Melbourne-land

      agree agree agree!

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    • femme

      I feel that if there are women out there with such massive self esteem issues that they feel they have to have surgery to make their labia minora smaller, it’s worth talking about.

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      • lkp48

        if they have such esteem problems they need help with depression, not that they do/dont like pubic hair

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        • femme

          I was talking about non-essential, elective surgery performed on the female external genitalia.

          I’m not sure that depression is related to a perception that a woman’s dangly bits are too dangly. Looking at innacurate portrayals of genitalia is a good place to start. Also addressing women’s lack of confidence in their own, unique bodies.

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      • JK

        Femme, I was talking about pubic hair, not surgery, and that seems to be what most people here are discussing once again.

        I would love to see the statistics on how many elective labia surgeries are performed in Aus each year. I am willing to bet the number isn’t very high. I’ve lived in a few countries, and if I can generalise here, I think we are some of the least vain people I’ve come across. Labia surgery should hardly be our biggest concern.

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    • missamoo

      I completely agree with you. I do wonder though at the amount of really young women getting vaginoplasty but then i think the same of boob jobs under the age of 21. Again i agree each to their own but i doubt that every girl/woman has your sense of reasoning. I was talking to a male friend about dating younger women and he said that a lot of them seemed fixated on what they are meant to be doing rather than doing what they enjoy and he said it was quite creepy.

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    • Jebaru

      I actually wonder if one of the reasons some women are reluctant to have pap smears is worry about being judged unfavourably for having pubic hair and what they now consider to be untidy labia. They may also have taken on board the “pubic hair = smelly and unhygienic” message that is increasingly prevalent and be concerned that the health professional will secretly think they are dirty. So it’s still an important – possibly a life and death – topic.

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  44. femme

    Goooooo Muff March!

    Like it or not there is increasing pressure, especially on the young, to mess with one’s bits.
    I’ve read surveys and anecdotes so I know this is a “thing”.

    But hey, I find it weird that so much body hair removal is so normalised.

    Let the labia do their thing. Don’t let anyone tell you that you aren’t beautiful just the way you are. Hairy legs, armpits, groin. It’s all good!

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  45. Anon for this

    Interesting debate, surely it’s about free choice? However, just to add my thoughts…

    I have never been asked to go hairless, I’ve tried it and I prefer a little (well-trimmed) hair down there. I had an infected follicle after a waxing, which turned into a cyst. This cyst filled with pus and blood and would pop, usually in cycle with my hormones. Most becoming, let me tell you!!

    After 2 years of antibiotics, several trips to a GP, 2 trips to a dermatologist and 2 to a plastic surgeon, this time last week I had it removed. A 6 cm scar remains (and very painful stitches, roll on tomorrow!!). I had to have it removed under a general anaesthetic due to the depth. From ONE INFECTED FOLLICLE!!!!

    I had tried Laser as it may have killed the hair and broken the cycle, but I am happy with the results that gave me, would never ever wax again…

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  46. R

    Weird how the first thing I thought when I saw all the photos with the “muff” patch was “I wonder if any of them actually had a non muff under there clothes”
    choose want you want to do with your own body but dont waste time and energy marching for this when there is many other feminist issues that these people could have brought media attention too!

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    • Some random

      You realise if they’d paraded around with their actual muffs they would have been arrested for public nudity, right?

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  47. Meggsie

    It makes me uncomfortable if it is a man wanting a woman to do this. I can’t help but think if the link to pre pubscent girls

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  48. Jess in Melbourne

    I swim twice a week, so see nude ladies in the changerooms regularly. I don’t know where this idea that all these women are waxing and laserhairing comes from – trust me. The muff is alive and well.

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    • Lulu

      Not at my gym. There’s a fair bit of nudity in the changerooms & very little hair.

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  49. anon

    I have had a brazillian three times now. Purely because my boyfriend nagged and nagged at me each time till I was worn down. Not as painful as I thought, but quite itchy when growing back.
    Still not sure how I feel about doing it under pressure, though.

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    • roserusso

      Don’t do it for your boyfriend – do it for yourself!

      If you don’t feel comfortable with it don’t let him bully you.

      How would he feel if you nagged and nagged him to get a men’s brazilian? Give it a try ;)

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      • Kris2040

        Hehe, that’s my policy if anyone ever asked me to get one. His and Hers, buddy – when are we booking in? Oh, and you go first – I’ve had waxing done before and I know I can handle it no problem.

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    • Rebecca

      This is a genuine curious question – do you still have sex while it’s growing back? Or just while it’s hair free? Does he get icked out by the regrowth? No judgment, I really am curious.
      None of my business, of course, you can ignore!

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      • tstrachan

        From a man’s perspective…sex during the growing back stage can be a little scratchy, but certainly not enough to stop; and if really necessary, then a little KY will generally smooth things out. There’s certainly nothing “icky” about a little pubic stubble (and waxing regrowth is comparatively softer than shaving regrowth) and if he does complain, he needs to be reminded of the hair-burn his face stubble can cause and stop complaining.

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  50. littlemisschloe

    “a ruinously high-maintenance, itchy, cold-looking child’s fanny” speak for yourself Ms Moran mine looks and feels just lovely ;)

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    • LellaK

      completely agree! I began waxing down there as a singleton, so not for a blokes pleasure, though now boyfriend does appreciate. i like feeling groomed and i dont see it any differently to waxing my eyebrows :)

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      • terry

        I don’t wish to be rude but I would have to say that bare
        cunt on bare penis is something else

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