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by RANDA ABDEL-FATTAH

I was sitting with my husband and two children in a restaurant in Sydney yesterday afternoon. The television mounted on the wall was loudly blaring the news of Muslims in Sydney’s CBD protesting against the film, Innocence of Muslims.

Images flashed across the screen: angry Muslim men clashing with the police. Muslims holding up placards such as ‘behead all those who insult the Prophet’. My husband and I exchanged dreaded looks. The other restaurant patrons were watching in horror. Their disgust was palpable.

I heard a couple mutter “bloody Muslims”. I wanted to approach them and implore them not to judge us all by the actions of a few. But I felt weary and doubted that anything I had to say could overcome the visceral impact of the ugly images on the news.

What happened in Sydney was utterly insane. Along with my Muslim friends and family, I stayed plugged into the social networking sites. Friends who were at the protests fed us up-to-the minute information about what was going on and how they were feeling.

The majority sentiment was that the protest had started out peacefully until a minority of extremists hijacked it. There was also a strong sense of fear as people detected a dark and tense shift in the atmosphere, starting with a stronger police presence and then tear gas.

All I could do was lament the fact that some of Sydney’s Muslims had felt compelled to protest in the first place. Don’t get me wrong. I am a devout Muslim and feel deeply offended by the film Innocence of Muslims, which is a low-budget, cheap, despicable attempt to insult and defame prophet Muhammad.

I also support peaceful protests as a legitimate expression of people’s democratic rights. I’ve been along to a fair few and spoken at some as well. But I don’t think they’re always particularly constructive and especially not in these circumstances. The first victim of these protests is Islam. That’s the irony. The angry, ranting man and woman on the street is dishonouring the example set to us by Prophet Muhammad who was attacked and persecuted all his life but who always responded with dignity, patience, and kindness.

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Randa

One of my favourite stories is about a woman who would regularly throw trash on the prophet as he walked down a particular path. The prophet never responded in kind to the woman’s abuse. Instead, when she one day failed to attack him, he went to her home to inquire about whether she was unwell.

There are many such examples throughout Muhammad’s life. Stories I learnt growing up as a child and which I now teach my children. Which is why, if people sincerely wish to protest and condemn the film then they should honour the prophet and live by his example.

The really infuriating thing about the whole situation is that the film was clearly made with the intention of provoking a violent reaction from Muslims. And so some Muslims, presumably in an attempt to repudiate the claim that Muslims are violent, took to the streets and engaged in violent protests.

Confused? Me too. It’s a vicious cycle that’s based on a distorted logic and completely warped idea about Islam. It’s as though the extreme elements in the protest thought, ‘hmm, how can we degrade the image of Islam even further and validate every Islamophobic stereotype about our faith and community?’

Well, congratulations, extremists. Job well done. Yet again a minority spoils all the good efforts that have taken place for social cohesion and mutual respect and understanding in the post 9/11 period.

Some of these extremists will claim that all non-Muslims hate Islam and Muslims. Just as some extremists claim that all Muslims hate non-Muslims and ‘the West’. Both camps thrive on a binary view of the world. One based on ‘us and them’. It’s a convenient and simple position to adopt because it means you don’t have to engage, understand, empathise, imagine or connect. You just have to hate. Not only is this decidedly against the tenets of all the religions of the world, it’s a pathetically lazy way to live.

The only saving grace from this disturbing affair is that the extremists at the protest represent a minority, not only in Australia but worldwide. There are 1.3 billion Muslims in the world. Unfortunately when a fraction behaves badly, every Muslim stands accused.

Let’s not let the extremists and unthinking people on all sides control the political and religious discourse. Let’s repudiate violence, hatred and stupidity by showing all extremists that we retain the moral high ground.

See some of the scenes from the protests below…

From Adam Boland on Twitter (@postboxadam)

Randa Abdel-Fattah has written eight books, including Does My Head Look Big in This? Randa is also a lawyer, human rights activist and mother. You can find her website here and her Twitter here.
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149 Comments so far

  1. mummamaya

    The riot was abhorrent. My son was in Hyde Park and saw the police advancing. He saw a small boy with a placard that demanded beheading. He left, calling me as he got on the bus.

    It was wrong. Violence in any way is wrong. But to blame all Muslims for the actions of a few is wrong too. We ALL live here, we ALL love our children, we ALL need to learn how to do this better.

    I will continue to embrace my sisters no matter their colour, creed, ancestry, sexual preference or any other thing that causes rifts in society. We need to practice love and tolerance. We need to show the world how to do it.

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  2. Carol Wocker

    I have a question, I am sure that there are many lovely stories in the Koran as there are in the bible. But how do you as a Muslim explain things like Mohammed having a nine year old bride, or the Koran saying that all non Muslims should be killed if they can not be converted? This is a question I am not having a go you, I would really like to understand how the hate in the Koran and the bible is excepted by people who follow relgious teachings? The hate LGBTI people In particular, if Allah or God made human kind then they also made people who are born LGBTI, so why is hate of this group of people very much part of may, but not all, relgious views? Please know that I am really interested in what people have to say and I am not being hateful or rude with these questions.

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  3. Anonymous

    There are 17 recognised terrorist cells in Australa. Sixteen of them are Muslim. These demonstrators are not the minority. They are a very real and present danger.

    Islam is a separatist religion. They will never integrate. My son has twice been in recovery (after minor surgery) with a Muslim woman. Twice he has engaged in small talk and twice he has been ignored. I don’t care if it Muslim culture but here it is rude and ignorant. We don’t treat anyone like that and neither should Muslims. Islam has no place in a progressive, accepting country like Australa.

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    • Ez

      Because your son was not able to engage in small talk with a Muslim women, they are all rude and ignorant? “They” will never integrate? Why such judgment?!

      How do you feel when white Australians are branded as racist and violent because a number of overseas students are assaulted in Melbourne due to their race? Personally, I feel offended and angry at those who actually are responsible. I don’t want to be treated differently or called certain things which I am not. These thoughts seem echoed in Randa’s piece.

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    • Lulu

      “There are 17 recognised terrorist cells in Australa. Sixteen of them are Muslim. These demonstrators are not the minority.”

      Even if your figures are correct, there is a *big* difference between ‘most terrorists are Muslim’ and ‘most Muslims are terrorists’. BIG difference.

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    • mummamaya

      Maybe you should do some research, read the Koran and judge for yourself. You can’t just listen to everyone else, you need to check it out to get your own handle on it.

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  4. JIll

    Come clean, Randa.
    The film in question has been on youtube since 2011.

    The apparent ‘reason” for these “protests” are completely spurious, and have succeeded only in exhibiting the violence of Islam.

    I notice you express NO regret or solicitude for the policeman injured by one of the rocks, bottles and missiles thrown by protesters at the ‘demo.

    Islam is not the victim of this protest – that policeman is the first victim.
    i saw the blood.

    i respect Muslims that actually do live peacefully, not those that riot in the street.

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  5. nonna

    I watched an interview in the past couple of days with a young woman who was Muslim. I think she was from the Muslim Friendship Society in Canberra and can’t remember what television channel but as I watch ABC 24 Breakfast mostly,I think it may have been that program. I was struck by her candid response to the protest on Saturday. She was absolutely lovely and the interview let me thinking what an asset she is to the Muslim community and the Australian community as well.

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  6. Jill

    No Randa.
    the first victim of this violent action was a policeman.
    I saw the blood.

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  7. Kellie

    I also remember rubbing off my make up and putting on more clothing before walking into my atheist home growing up as I’m sure many teenagers did.

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  8. Anonymous

    MMers – can anyone recommend a good ‘beginners guide’ to religion suitable for young (just about to start school) children?

    (Sorry, I know this doesn’t respond to the post, but it didn’t seem like a bad place to put the question out there…)

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  9. JosieY

    Randa, i first read your book in high school and I thought it was wonderful. I’ve sinced passed it on to many of my students because I think your voice is one we should listen to. Wel spoken again.

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  10. Andy P

    Innocence of Muslims is absurd, tacky and offensive, etc.etc

    The level of violence and hatred factions of the Muslim community displayed on Sydney streets was completely unjust,out of proportion- lost for words really.

    And Randa while the anarchy was unleashing itself outside of the restaurant I feel you have a tinge of self righteousness thinking that an utterance of “bloody muslims” deserved to be corrected. A blip on the radar really compared to the misplaced attacks on the police, obscenely violent threats and propogation of hate that clearly exists in segments of the Muslim society.

    Randa, I get that you and many other Muslims are lovely people and upstanding citizens. But it is also our right in this country to comment on the disgusting people involved in the riot. They were Muslims so I think people can use that term. No one said “ALL” muslims!

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  11. JollyRoger

    The real issue with the Sydney riots last week is one of expectation management.

    From birth Muslims are led to believe the their religion is untouchable, supreme, and that followers are superior to everyone else.

    This was fine when the world was a big place and they lived in splendid isolation. Now they have cellphone, internet, and live in Australia.

    Suddenly they find that most of the world doesn’t give a shrug about Islam or the Prophet, and don’t give it the respect they think it deserves.

    This horrifies them.

    This is the crux of the issue. This expectation gap. They can talk all they like about “marginalised youth” unemployment” etc. Thats just trivial side issues.

    The one real issue is that Muslims expect us to bow down to their religion, and we don’t.

    And this isn’t just the fanatical few, it is everyday mainstream Muslims. They may not all throw rocks at police officers, but they all want and expect Islam to be untouchable.

    And this can only go two ways:

    1. We start treating Islam as some special “untouchable” religion.

    2. Somehow we alter the expectations of the majority of followers of Islam.

    I suspect the general public want 2, but the politicians will go with 1.

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    • An Idle Dad

      Did you read the article? Here’s a bit that relates directly to your comment.

      “Some of these extremists will claim that all non-Muslims hate Islam and Muslims. Just as some extremists claim that all Muslims hate non-Muslims and ‘the West’.

      Both camps thrive on a binary view of the world.

      One based on ‘us and them’.

      It’s a convenient and simple position to adopt because it means you don’t have to engage, understand, empathise, imagine or connect. You just have to hate. Not only is this decidedly against the tenets of all the religions of the world, it’s a pathetically lazy way to live.

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    • Izzy

      Hi Jolly Roger,
      I have to disagree on the basis that your accusations seem to be about ALL Muslim people.
      I have many Muslim friends that do not expect me (as an Atheist) to “bow down” to their religion. They are actually totally accepting of me and my different beliefs.
      One of the saddest things that has from Saturday’s riots are the reactions that have followed. People are using them as an excuse to be racist. Not that your comment is racist but it is assuming things about the entire Muslim population. I know every Muslim friend of mine was just as horrified as you or I after watching the riots play out on our TV screens.
      PLEASE do not generalise.

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  12. marniequin2

    This is a news story which helps us understand how extremism is fanned.
    You will notice that the sheik in question is an Aussie whose parent are NOT from the Middle East. This Aussie sheik grew up in a NON-Muslim home

    http://www.news.com.au/national/sydney-sheik-stirs-the-hatred/story-fndo4bst-1226476066456

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  13. Marima

    I had a conversation last night with my group of writers on this protest.

    Once person made a very interesting point. “Muslims know how to protest” I would have to agree. Australians over the last 20 years have had many protests, unfortunately they fall on Deaf ears. The majority of Australians were against the invasion of Iraq. How did we protest, peacefully by holding hands. Perhaps if we were disobedient, our government would’ve heard heard us loud and clear. I am not condoning what happened on the weekend. However, when you protest you need to be loud and disobedient without break the laws, if that makes sense..?

    “In a gentle way, you can shake the world.”

    “Strength does not come from physical capacity. It comes from an indomitable will.”

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    • Wt...?

      I am absolutely aghast at this comment. You appear to be against peaceful protest and in support of disobedience of the law. How do you equate anarchy with “in a gentle way you can shake the world?”

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  14. Anonymous

    Randa, what a beautiful post!! There should be more people in the world with your beliefs from all demographics.

    I do wander one thing though, have you, or any other Muslim reading this, read ‘Infidel’ by Auaan Hirsi Ali?
    I ask because she paints such a bleak image of Islam, and not just because of what she’s experienced as a Somali Muslim girl, but because of her studies as well.
    Without knowing the Khoran I wonder what people like yourself make of her views?

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  15. Anonymous

    So someone said “bloody Muslims?’

    How is that comparable to what I have heard in the last few days? Muslims telling us that our dead are in hell while theirs are in paradise, professions of undying love for Osama Bin Ladan, a 9 year old girl’s love of jihad, a cleric’s assertion that we will not hear, we will see Muslim might in my home, my country, after they have trashed theirs. Their country where they poison schoolgirls and stone women, where our men are dying trying to give women a better future while Muslim men now terrorise us!

    Compare the two and reassess who the true victims are.

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  16. cassie

    i know this is going to sound incredibly naive and ignorant…. but if you’re muslim how come your wearing that outfit in the picture? just curios…. don’t you have to have at least a head scarf on?

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    • An Idle Dad

      I work for a large corporation and only a very small minority of the muslim women I know cover their head. It’s not a requirement at all. The politest term I can think of is that it is ‘fashion’.

      And the chances are, it’s even a smaller percentage than I’m aware of, because religion isn’t a topic I enquire about (and nor should it be)!

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    • Sandi

      My sister in law is Muslim and doesn’t wear a hijab. She has 5 sisters and 2 of them do, and the others don’t. It is a personal choice and is about the relationship with God and how they want to express it. It is not fashion and is not imposed upon them.

      When I am in Islamic countries, I dress more conservatively than perhaps I might at home, and I carry a scarf that I can throw around my head and shoulders if required, such as entering a mosque. That is no different to what I did/do when we go into St Peter’s Basilica in Rome or a Hindu temple in Bali.

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      • An Idle Dad

        Happy to stand corrected on my classification on ‘fashion’! Learn something new everyday, eh?

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      • Anonymous

        It’s not always about personal choice. We had some Muslim families living down the street from us years ago (in West End in Brisbane). Our house was on the corner and we would see their daughters putting on their head scarves by the side of our house before walking around the corner where they could be seen by their parents.

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    • Craig

      That’s a bit like saying how can you be a Catholic and not wear a crucifix around your neck. It’s optional.

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      • aperson

        Not in a country operating under Islamic law Craig, where in fact women can be beaten (or worse) for not doing so.

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        • Craig

          I was under the impression Randa was writing from Australia.

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  17. marniequin2

    It is significant that the attack on the American Embassy and the death of the US ambassador and three other Americans took place on the Anniversary of 9/11.
    We are tending to ‘think local’ and miss the big picture.

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    • An Idle Dad

      Yup, CNN is reporting that US Military officials have reviewed video of the attack and say it was a fully military operation – the video and 9/11 were just excuses, the riot just a distraction.

      Still, that doesn’t mean that the Sydney riot wasn’t triggered by the response to the video internationally.

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  18. Cg

    Make no mistake, this video insulting muhammad is only an excuse, not the reason for the unleashing of Islamic hatred.

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  19. lizcb

    I just wanted to say this was wonderful article outlining how thinking m
    Muslims feel about what is going on. But while It might just be minority of Muslims who act this way they are vocal and violent. the Australian Muslim community needs to sort this out – Australia has always been a great place to live why does anyone want to ruin that?

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  20. Alice A

    Great article! I know not to judge an entire society of people by a few who aren’t as nice and you’re completely right about the violent Muslims just doing what the filmakerss wanted them to and setting a bad example. I wish thing had worked out more peacefully. :(

    I’m doing one of your books (Does My Head Look Big in This?) for my English Advanced additional material my HSC in a month and the story is something that really appeals to me. :)

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  21. Sienna

    Every religion thinks that they are the one true religion & only followers of this religion will go to Heaven! Imagine their surprise when they die & find out that everyone goes to the same place regardless of their beliefs.

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    • Cg

      Absolutely not true. Catholics believe in the equality of all men and have a deep respect for all religions. I believe most religions are the same. The new religion of atheism sets themselves superior to all others. They believe that science has disproved the existence of any higher power. Science can’t even cure the common cold or tell us whether eggs are healthy or artery blocking death capsules.

      Everyone, whatever they believe or don’t believe will be in one of two places. Personally, I don’t know who runs the show or what price the admission is, but as a palliative care nurse I have seen and heard things that have knocked the arrogance right out of me. There is an afterlife, I’ve seen it.

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      • Sienna

        Cg, I also believe in an afterlife & that we all go to the same place! I’m not an Atheist (which is not a religion by the way) but was raised a Catholic & was taught that only people baptized in the Catholic Church could get into Heaven! My Baptist friend believes only people who accept Jesus into their life will go to Heaven so I won’t be getting in even though I’m Baptized in the Catholic Church!
        I also like to believe in Karma & Reincarnation!

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      • MJ

        Atheism is not a religion..
        And every organized religion out there excludes some group of people.

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        • An Idle Dad

          “Off” is not a TV channel! ;)

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      • Craig

        “They believe that science has disproved the existence of any higher power.”

        I find it funny when people comment on Atheism with no idea what they are talking about. Atheism doesn’t claim science has disproved a higher power at all. Science is not in the business of disproving things but discovering things. Atheists say that there is no evidence of a higher power and so the default position with no evidence is not to believe in it rather than to believe.

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  22. Em

    By the way, is this movie to be shown or available in Australia? Just wondering why protest here?

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    • Sienna

      You can watch it on Utube, worst 12 minutes you’ll ever watch! Just google “Innocence of Muslims”. Don’t know why the Muslims are so upset, it didn’t make any sense to me, it was just *BAD*…a – Z grade video!

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    • JennyP

      It’s on YouTube….too crass and vulgar and B-Grade for the actual screen. And now it’s been given so much publicity as well unfortunately

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      • AlyssaKT

        I think calling it B-Grade is insulting to B-Grade films! ;)

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        • Faybian

          Z grade maybe, I will never get back those 13 minutes of my life..

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  23. Em

    Think I lost my post, anyway, wanted to say how unfortunate it was that such comments were directed at you nand your family, having a peaceful lunch. However I disagree with the MM byline (which you don’t say at all I don’t think) that the ‘first’ victim is Islam. I think that place is reserved for the innocent people murdered over this ‘movie’.

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  24. afw

    I am just tired of people in this world who respond with anger and violent – regardless of race or religion. Full stop.

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  25. Em

    Pity…an opportunity for the haters to come out.. awful for your kids to hear etc having a peaceful lunch. But I disagree that Islam is the ‘first’ victim, I’d say that place is reserved for the people who have been murdered over this movie. Of which I know nothing, I admit. I don’t think you say this yourself in the piece, unless I’ve missed it. Just the by-line from MM I think.

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  26. Kirra

    Great article, love the but about how hating is the lazy way to live, requiring no attempt to empathise, imagine what its like for others, and how this is against the tenents of most religions. There in a nutshell youve summed up how i feel about religious conflict. It is just an excuse for much baser human emotions that religion (all of them) are supposed to help us conquer. So ironic.

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  27. Shaun

    I was the victim of an unprovoked insult by a male in his mid 20′s today, he stared at me and said “Allah Akbar” and then proceeded with “White dog cockroach”. I am trying my best to not let this isolated experience change my overall opinion on the muslim community. I have many close muslim friends, I have had a long term relationship with a beautiful muslim girl. And all these people have shown me nothing but love and friendship. This hate and violence has to stop, it is destroying this beautiful planet. It is reasons like this that have influenced me to disregard my religious upbringing and draw my own theories, beliefs and conclusions in regards to the afterlife.

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  28. Veronica

    I really don’t understand why this movie is so offensive? People of all religions get ridiculed all the time. No disrispect intended I just want to understand why?

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  29. Brenda

    I don’t condone violence and realy beleive that not all muslims are like this. As a genuine questions though what I want to know is why is this movie so offensive – I really dont get it.

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  30. Bella

    The reason so many of these young men are angry is because society judges them for how they look. I have so many Muslim friends who are made to feel like criminals on a daily basis just because of the beards they wear or because they have darker skin & dark hair, and their wives wear burkas or hajibs. These men & women are honourable, hard working people & are not radical extremists in the slightest.

    Looking ethnic or different in society these days (being fat, having tattoos, different nationalities or wearing a religious habit) isn’t welcomed by all, and its a shame. Why hate on someone for what they were born into or how they choose to look? These men didn’t choose to be born into this religion or to be boxed in to a religion that has been let down by a chosen few bad apples so why do people want to hate of them so much?

    If we choose to hate on all Muslims for the actions of a few then you might as well hate on white people for all the haenous crimes that white people such as Martin Bryant, Ivan Milat, Charles Manson, Ted Bundy etc have committed. It’s just stupid. Treat people as individuals & not as a group. Treat others how you yourself would want to be treated.

    By the way I’m white and female, and love regardless of colour, race, sexuality or religion.

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  31. Anna

    What a great article, well done! Eloquently, intelligently and informatively written.

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  32. newmama

    I really enjoyed this article. Thank you for writing it.

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  33. newmama

    Thank you to your father & those like him for protecting us every day. I wish there were more of them and they were shown more respect. May he always remain safe.

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  34. Anonymous

    I supported our troops in Afghanistan because I though the women and children were worth fighting for. Now, I want them home.

    Ben Fordham has just interviewed a woman from the Islamic Women’s Association. She just keeps blaming disenfranchised youth and doesn’t support the ‘invasion’ of Iraq and Afghanistan.

    It’s time to bring our boys home, shut our bordes and protect ourselves.

    On the weekend, a leading Australian cleric told the assembled Muslims – ‘they will not hear us, they will see us.’ he was inciting violence against his fellow Australians and he hasn’t been arrested.

    How many terrorists attempts have our police foiled and what the HELL happens when they miss one?

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    • Sarah

      I feel like all the ‘anonymous’ posts on here are from the same person.
      everybody is worth fighting for, and because somebody has different religious views does not make their life less valuable.
      and why on earth are we talking about terrorism? Randa’s article is asking us to look beyond the highly publicised minority and I feel you have not done this.

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  35. Serena

    What a beautiful message Randa. Surely this is ultimately what all the world’s religions beliefs are built on. If only we all took the time to learn and understand the principles of each rather than casting judgement based on what we see and hear in the news.

    I would align more closely with agnostic beliefs but that this “film” is actually a disgrace. It offended me; I can’t even imagine to the degree it would do a devout Muslim. But it saddens me to my core that it was created to do just that. Surely this reflects extremism and human dysfunction from both the film makers and the extremist protestors.

    I look forward to the day that the “them and us” attitude stops and we all make the effort to understand each other better no matter what our set of beliefs.

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    • Anonymous

      Hi Serena,
      Just wondering if you have seen the film as I was under the impression it has not been made public as yet and all the protests are about what they THINK is in it.

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      • Catherine

        Regardless of what is or isnt in the move, you cannot kill people because you don’t like their opinion. But Muslim scholars believe that apostasy is punishable by death or imprisonment.

        Islamic law is not compatible with the Australian way of life

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  36. ClaireBear

    I don’t have time today to formulate a well-thought out response to this issue, but just wanted to say thank you for your article Randa! You are very much a voice of reason. I hope this article is distributed far and wide!

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  37. amyfizzer

    This may be viewed as an ignorant, generalised comment from someone to attempts to avoid any conversation regarding religion because it frustrates the hells out of me…

    But if the religion one follows (in this instance, Islam) is so wonderful, why on earth are countries where it is a majority religion so completely in ruin? I’m not suggesting they should “go back where they came from” but surely the refugees and immigrants to this country realise that part of what makes our country such an amazing place to live is the distinct separation of church and state?

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    • vivacious

      The concept of democracy and separation of church and state is one that has been fought for and over for hundreds of years in western countries. Many of the countries that have issues at the moment were not countries until after WWII. Prior to that they were small communities ruled in feudal ways, city states, etc, etc.

      So in less than 100 years they are meant to catch up to ways of thinking that have taken hundreds of years to form in Europe? Add to that levels of education, new communication methods, the types and availability of weapons, groups like drug and weapons producers who have their own reasons for preferring destabled countries from which to operate and you have a very complex set of factors influencing what is going on in the world. The separation of church and state is a very small part of that equation.

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    • Ally

      Which Islamic countries are you looking at? Those run by Islamic extremists? Syria, one of the only secular and democratic countries in the Middle East, has come under attack because of its love of peace and acceptance. Islamic extremists are trying to ruin the face of Islam. This film is their doing, and the misconceptions people have about Islam is also their doing.

      Muslims are not all the same. There are many sectors in the Islamic religion. Don’t forget that years ago, Australia was quite sectarian, between its Catholics and Protestants.

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      • An Idle Dad

        Syria? A model secular democracy? Surely you jest.

        We’re talking about Syria, with a President who is the son of the former President. Where the Ba’ath party gets half of all seats in the parliament and can run for the other half?

        The Syria where there is a current investigation into war crimes, including torturing a seven year old boy to death as a warning to his father?

        While I think the whole ‘separation of church and state equals successful countries’ is a bit weak, considering how few countries in the world actually have this policy (about fifteen, I think, and some, like Spain, aren’t doing so crash hot), no way would I ever hold up Syria as a victim of anything.

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        • Trog

          I think that the separation of church and state argument is not so much that it’s the driving premise behind successful democracies/government; it’s more that things seem to go so very wrong the more theocratic a country gets.

          No arguments on Syria.

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          • An Idle Dad

            While I wouldn’t want to live in a theocracy (for a start, I’m Atheist), Iran, United Arab Emirates and Qatar are all have thriving economies and UAE even has decent women’s rights.

            Just like in judging a person, being specifically religious or specifically secular means little when judging a country.

            But saying that, I can’t think of a secular democracy that has collapsed giving rise to civil war or genocide. Does Rwanda count?

            Hmmm…

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  38. Pointless protests

    “There was also a strong sense of fear as people detected a dark and tense shift in the atmosphere, starting with a stronger police presence and then tear gas.”

    Police were there because of the ‘extremists’ that hijacked the event. Thank god for them or who knows what further unnecessary violence may have occurred!

    My sympathy is with the police – they don’t want to push people back, they would much rather not have to work at these events and their risk of injury is high. These type of protests achieve nothing, and even worse they increase the chances of people viewing Muslims as a whole in a bad light.

    Whoever organised this protest may have had the right idea in mind, but they should have known what would happen from past experience. They should be ashamed of themselves now.

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    • a daughter

      Thank you.

      Having a father who is in the police and was on the frontline for this attrocious event, well as a daughter your heart is in your throat and you just sit and wait to find out that it’s over and he is safe.

      The police should be commended for their actions and speedy gathering of troops to contain a situation that could have escalated even further if not for their presence and vigilance.

      I am troubled that these events seem to be occuring more frequently as each time a member of my family is at risk.

      The perpetrators try to take photos of the policeman and their name tags… stand in front of them and spit several times on the ground… what are they going to do with this information? It’s obviously a silent threat an attempt at intimidate.

      And for what… a movie? That we have nothing to do with?

      I have always remained open minded and do agree that this was the actions of few. But if anything happened to my father because of something like this… well then the perpetrators would find themselves up against someone with a real cause.

      I hate that I’ve ever had to contemplate the scenario above but it goes with the job my dad does. It’s his choice and above all I’m proud of him.

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      • Incanberra

        I am proud of him too.

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  39. sparkie

    I understand that an application to hold the protest was not lodged with the City of Sydney ….interesting to speculate on the response to such a request

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    • Sophia

      Are you implying that the response would have been negative? That Muslims would not have been allowed to protest? Well if so, you are wrong. A permit was applied for and approved for such a protest and it was going to be held on Sunday. It was cancelled because of what happened at the unofficial protest on Saturday. Mainstream Muslim organisations like the MWA, Affinity and others will confirm this. Like everyone else in this country, Muslims may demonstrate peacefully, according tot he laws of the land. According to the newspapers, the people who organised this violent protest claimed not to have known the procedure for applying, Yes, well doesn’t that tell you something?

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  40. Anonymous

    Why are muslims so violent ? Why dont they assimilate ? Why do they come to this country and want changes just for themselves? Why cant my 4 year child enjoy christmas celebrations at the local kinder ? Why ??

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    • Kate Hunter

      Hi Anonymous, did you read Randa’s words? I think you are making exactly the generalisations which disturb her and set the whole debate on an unhelpful ‘us vs them’ footing.

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    • sparkie

      did the Kinder explain why there were no Christmas celebrations ?

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    • Jem

      Hi. I’d like to introduce myself. My name is Jemina. I’m muslim, Australian and I abhor violence. I work in a hospital, enjoy reading, photography and playing with my cat. I’ve never been considered to be non-assimilated and I like to think that when people meet me they see me as a person and not a generalisation.
      And I just want to thank Randa for this article – says what I feel but so much more eloquently!

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  41. Anonymous

    I’m offended that women are stoned to death, I’m offended that US diplomats were killed when they were working to help Muslims, I’m offended by gays being hung from trees and daughters slaughtered but I’m not marching the streets with a sign to behead Muslims!

    We have seen the footage of westerners having their heads sliced off.

    This violence has nothing to do with the video and their love for Muhommad. It has everything to do with their hatred of westerners.

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    • Jackie

      There are over a billion Muslims in the world, most of them dont hate us nor do they follow the extremes that are all offended by. The vast majority of Muslims just get along with their lives they same way we do.
      Perhaps you should re-read Randas article.

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    • Sarah

      obviously you just jumped straight to the comments section of this piece.
      re-read the brilliant article above and re-think what you said.
      Randa is saying that we need to fight against generalisations, and yet you’ve lumped every Muslim together, as if they all stone their women to death, kill diplomats and hate Westerners. REALLY?
      i’m going to convince myself that you’re comment was ironic. has. to.be. ironic

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  42. mybloggableday

    Great article Randa.

    I think The West Wing said it best:
    “Islam extremist is to Islam as KKK is to Christianity.”

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    • Cass

      Absolutely agree. Brilliant quote.

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  43. G

    Hi Randa
    Overseas people with no connection to the video where killed. This needs to be addressed by the 1.3 billion muslims.

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  44. Lisa Jensen

    MM why was my last comment not published? It was not offensive, simply pointing out that while we’re happy to condemn the reactions of a minority of Muslims involved with these protests and for the death and injury resulting from them, nobody seems to be asking the minority Christians who created the whole debacle to take any responsibility or talking about how unacceptable their actions were?! It seems a bit unfair that everyone is only talking about one of the religious factions involved in this – especially when the one being talked about was deliberately provoked.

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  45. Frank

    If the movie offends you then ignore it. Can you imagine the chaos if people rioted/demonstrated every time they got offended?

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  46. Trog

    Well written, ma’am.

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  47. flyingdale flier

    I can always remember as a small child singing the hymn faith of our fathers and how the words speak of admiration of those that died for theit christian faith. “how great would be our childrens praise,if we like them could die fore thee”. Scary!!!

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  48. Siobhan

    Thank you Randa for a well written post, certainly gave me more insight in to your religion. I do believe that the Muslim community has a serious issue. I understand not all Muslims would behave in such a manner (especially letting a child hold the poster with such a message on it) however, this is unfortunately what the Australian public sees most regularly and what is reported in the media, and most Australians perceptions of this religion are based on such behaviour. It is up to the Muslim community to address this, and to ensure this behavior does not continue. All I have seen from these protests are disturbing images, that have definitely continued to shape my perception of this religion.

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    • Cait

      I think all religions are experiencing the issues you talk of, Siobhan.

      Most muslims arent violent. Most christians arent homophobes or kiddy-fiddlers. Most mormons dont have a sister wife arrangement.

      The people at that protest should not be seen as representative of all muslims. The people there are just damaged and angry people.

      i think the media portrayal of religion as whole is skewed, but i think all consciencious people could step back and appreciate that any (or no) religion cannot be represented by extremists. if these headlines/pictures didnt sell papers, and people instead bought papers filled with the charity and community work organisations do, there would be a huge shift in community sentiment.

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  49. LJA

    Randa I loved what you had to say over the weekend. I really listened and valued your view. This article again has been enlightening. I love the story about the prophet and the lady with the rubbish. We know so little about your religion. For every idiot that makes sweeping generalizations about a culture and religion and rants about it in a coffee shop there are others that want to understand. I don’t identify with a religion but always enjoy smart talking, thoughtful women who stop me in my tracks. 

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  50. Suki

    We focus on the angry young men, but what makes them so angry? Surely not a silly film. Sure it’s offensive but to riot in the streets? Maybe this is just an excuse to vent their anger.
    Do their parents need to take some responsibility? I think so. And I’m not just talking about the types of parents that would give their kids hateful signs to hold.

    I’m talking about the types of parents that want their kids to live a traditional Islamic life whilst being exposed to the culture and freedoms of our greater community. These young men see a way of live that is often more attractive to them but they are given no choice by their families but to live a traditional life. A life more consistent with a village in the middle east.

    No wonder they are angry.

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