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Screen shot 2012 11 12 at 6.49.00 AM A letter to my so called progressive friend.

Jamila Rizvi (wearing Owl of Eden necklace for all of you who have asked!)

 

 

Dear friend,

I have sat quietly during these past 5 years and picked at my already-damaged cuticles, while listening to you hold court with our mates and bemoan the state of modern politics. I haven’t spoken up. I haven’t pushed back.

I have quite literally bitten my tongue (and that bloody hurts by the way) while I watched you insult politicians who I admire and ideas I have faith in, all in the name of dinner party conversational popularity.

But I’m done with my politeness now. Because last night, you went too far.

While lazily reclining on a deck chair in Newtown, you claimed that metaphorical soapbox with your usual zeal and you were, quite simply: a bit of a dick. In a backyard full of bleeding heart lefties, you thought you’d distinguish yourself, prove you’re just that much more outrageously progressive than the rest of us.

And so you had a go at Barack.

In the spirit of a hysterical contestant on America’s Next Top Model, please imagine my finger being waved in your face right now, with my head moving sideways on top of a stationary neck: “Oh no you dinnit.”

But it wasn’t that which pushed me over the edge, it was what came next. As you took the field for a quick game of your favourite sport – trashing the Labor Party – you said that the Americans’ excuse for progressive politics was no better than Australia’s and there was nothing worth celebrating in Obama winning a second term.

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Prime Minister Julia Gillard.

You said we shouldn’t hope for a Gillard victory in Australia to follow on from Obama’s in the States because what difference would it make anyway? She’s not a real progressive you ranted. The Labor Party are a mess you cried. Things wouldn’t change that much if Tony Abbott became Prime Minister?

You said that the system was screwed, that you wanted no part of it, that you would cop an electoral commission fine on the chin and wouldn’t even vote next time around.

Yeah. That’s right.

So I’m done with staying quiet now.

My friend, when we walk into a polling booth on election day we are doing so much more than deciding who we would like our local representative to be. We are playing our part in a system that ensures a stable, democratic and peaceful Australia.

An Australia that (to quote the terribly corny but awfully catchy advertising campaign) was founded on a vote not a war. An Australia whose political system may not always produce the charismatic leaders you long for but whose parliamentary processes ensure order and good governance is maintained.

An Australia whose political system – despite facing tests in recent years that would have seen many nations descend into civil war – continues to deliver what its people need to get by every day: clean water to drink, safe roads to drive on, good schools to send their children to, hospitals that come to their aid when they’re sick…

Throughout history, millions have given their lives for the right to have a say in who governs their country; the right that you’re perfectly content to flush down the toilet next year.

Far too many are still fighting today.

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15 year old Malala was shot in the head by the Taliban.

Tell me this: Could you look a Saudi Arabian woman in the eyes and tell her that you don’t want to cast your vote in a free, fair and open election? Could you justify the ‘political point’ you’re apparently going to make, to the family of someone killed during the anti-Assad uprising in Syria? How about to a citizen who has been jailed after publicly criticising the Chinese Communist Party? How about to the 15 year old Pakistani girl who took a bullet to the head, in her fight to get a decent education?

The two party system may not be perfect but it gives you choice. While avoiding a parliament dominated by too many warring tribes, it gives us the right to choose while also delivering a functional and workable system of law making.

It is your choice who you vote for and why you vote for them. And I agree, that it is a sad reflection on the offerings of each party if you choose to exercise your vote against the party you don’t want to see in power rather than for the party you do. But the fact remains, you get to choose.

In Australia you have a right to vote, yes. But you also have a responsibility. The relationship between the elector and the elected doesn’t go one way – it’s a contract, a bargain, an agreement – and you have to play your part too.

I know you feel disillusioned by many of the actions of the Australian Labor Party federally. I know you expected and hoped for more from the past 5 years of Government. I did too.

The factional system remains a point of contention and division for the ALP and the influence of the union movement can make those who would otherwise become members, anxious about doing so. A willingness to compromise too far on core progressive beliefs has been terribly disappointing. And the increasing power of the media – thanks to a 24-hour-news-cycle – means that spin prevails over substance far more often than it should.

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Not voting makes the kittens cry.

The ALP can, should and must do better. Yes. But you don’t get to rant and rave that the Government is so focused on spin that it never gets anything done and at the same time bitch and moan that the carbon tax wasn’t ‘sold’ well enough to the electorate.

I am sick of the sniping from the sidelines. I am frustrated by the unwillingness of you and others to participate in a system that makes it so easy for you to do so, nay, encourages you to do so.

You have had a safe and secure upbringing, a first class education and have been given all the wealth and opportunity in the world. Of the 7 billion people living on this planet today – you are the one percent. You have no excuse not to make the most of what you’ve been given.

You have so many platforms available to you, through which you can make your voice heard. And there exists no bigger megaphone than that little lead pencil they give you inside a cardboard polling booth at the local primary school on election day.

Please don’t insult the many millions who are less fortunate than you, by saying you’re not going to use it.

Jamila

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230 Comments so far

  1. TwoDogs

    What is the collective noun for a group of self flatulating ‘progressives’ hanging out at Newtown? A ‘vomit’ of progressives, maybe?

    I always inwardly smile when I hear people label themselves as ‘progressives’.

    Why are they so often actually ‘regressives’ (eg CarbonTax protagonists etc).

    I remember Penny Wong huffing and puffing on QnA saying how hard it is to pass ‘reforms’ in Australia. Her idea of a reform would be my idea of a deform.

    True progressives never label themselves as such and there ideas never makes things worse or cause divisiveness.

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    • Tea Bag

      A carbon tax antagonist is, by definition, regressive. The carbon tax has recently come into existence, to repeal it would be an act of regression.

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      • Lulu

        Oh Tea Bag, don’t spoil the discussion with *facts*

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    • Me

      Oh Two Dogs! Now I’ve stopped laughing, I’ll thank you for your comment. You made my evening. Hear Hear!

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    • Caz

      TwoDogs, too good.

      Please hang around. You’re needed here.

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  2. Amandarose

    I get why people would be hard pressed to choose who to vote for. The two main parties essentially and melts into each other and became the same thing. their P’s not real difference in policy or ideals.
    And due to the media spin and nonsense the media chooses to focus on the big issues and ideas are back ground noise – not the parties fault but media focus.
    i also think a lot of grubbiness has been exposed that people generally don ‘t like- Factional manipulation, corruption, bag stabbing, switching leaders based on opinion poles. it does not sit well or look nice.
    I do think Liberal did a good enough job with Howard and I liked Kevin Rudd and Julia Gillards policies most of the time. It is a hard pick and it is hard to have strong ideas about who is better.

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  3. Anonymous

    ‘While lazily reclining in a deck chair n Newtown…’

    Nuff said.

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  4. Bradley

    Good afternoon, Jamila. From what you’ve written, I can only say that I completely agree with many of the views expressed by your “friend” and statements made by yourself in regards to the ALP.

    The fact that he/she doesn’t intend to cast a vote in the next election is very dicky. Extremely dicky !

    Don’t sit there and bitch about the system etc, if you have no intention of having your say via your vote. As you correctly say, countless numbers of people have given up their life for the right to vote and are still willing to do so. I think about those people each and every time I walk into a polling booth. I don’t take my right to vote for granted.

    I honestly hope that you were upfront and told your friend what you thought to his/her face. Doing behind his/her back via this site, wouldn’t be very nice.

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    • TwoDogs

      Amen brother.

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  5. my thoughts

    I think a lot of it comes down to education & respect.

    I have had the same conversation with my younger sisters friends & I’ve found a lot if the time it is because they don’t understand the system, how it works or how they can make a difference with their ‘one’ vote. Kids need to be educated on how the system works. In most cases they can’t rely on their parents because they don’t understand either & think politics is just something to bitch & moan about.

    The second issue is a lack of respect for the system & the roles in it. I think the role of Prime Minister & the party’s need to be respected & that this applies to politicians (question time is a joke & incredibly rude) and the media just as much as to the ‘progressive friend’.

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  6. Aimee

    I just think it’s worth mentioning that Australia WAS actually founded on war – the war between European colonisers and Aboriginal peoples. Federation was only possible because the Sovereignty of Aboriginal peoples was not recognised, and treaty was refused. The government still refuses to treaty. I agree that it is important to be politically involved and to fight for change, but there’s no need to revere the system in such terms, especially considering that the legitimacy of our governance system is inherently compromised and unstable. Sure, we should work within it when it’s useful, but there are so many reasons to push the boundaries in our work for change.

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    • Anonymous

      OMG

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    • Me

      Hmmmm…. time to move on maybe? We’re somewhere around 200yrs too late to change that now…

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  7. Deb

    Brilliant.

    It seems to be my lot in life to line up next to a voter on election day who thinks that compulsory voting is an affront to their personal freedom. That the 20 minutes in the queue is a waste of time and that all politicians are corrupt. Someone who is looking to moan at length to any available person (me) that the whole system is broken.

    Each time this has happened, I’ve had to make the choice that you’re talking about – remain silent and keep the peace or risk conflict by expressing my honest opinion. Usually I can’t keep quiet and I point out how damn lucky we are to live in this country and that if the price I have to pay to live here is 20 minutes in a queue on election day, then I’m very happy to do it. As you say, go to China and express some negative opinions about their government and then see how much you like living there.

    Australia is a great first world democracy. Like every other democracy, there are inherent flaws and problems in our system of government. And we don’t always get the representation we want. But still. We have so many ways to make our opinions heard by those who represent us. Or we can put up our hand and run ourselves.

    Seems to me that complaining about voting would be the ultimate first world problem, wouldn’t it?

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  8. Terry

    Yes, it is wonderful to have the right to vote.
    It is a struggle to see how our globe is changing,- how the ‘old rules’ of linear progression are no longer working due to our unprecedented level of globalization. And to have no political party on the globe understand or embrace this – yet.
    Here we are left with 2 redundant parties, either one whom we will blame when the country starts to tumble as other countries have already done.
    We are a pile of dominoes, with interlinked economies. As long as we do not recognize this and do not act in accordance of the ‘whole’, any strategy that gets implemented will only add to the demise of our current global circumstances. It only takes one hole in an interlinked system to bring it down.
    I do feel its more important to be proactive about caring about each other and our society in a mutually reciprocal manner, because soon there will be little money for our government to distribute to those of us waiting in growing unemployment lines such as you see in Spain, Portugal, Greece, Ireland, and now growing in the USA, and the United Kingdom.
    We need to start caring about each other rather than expecting that any government will be our superhero.
    I think many religious sages said something similar, along the lines of ‘love your neighbour as yourself’. Along with other greats of our time such as Martin Luther King, Einstein.
    We’ve just been too self absorbed and selfish until now to implement it.
    Yet I feel it will be our only way forward in the very near future.

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  9. sarzieb

    Well said Jamila! I couldn’t agree more. We are really lucky, especially as women that we do get to vote. So many people in this world do not get that chance to have their say. It really bugs me when people say they don’t want to and then complain about the Government, current or otherwise.

    It was even the case with the recent council elections in Victoria, just too many people didn’t vote. I just don’t understand why!

    I joined the electoral role when I was 17 and couldn’t wait till I was 18 and able to vote. I was really excited to get to have my say in how our country is run.

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  10. The wounded bull

    Firstly, why should you be forced to turn up and donkey vote in this country when you feel the place (pariament) is full of clowns. Put Turnbull in and I might care.

    Secondly, good job Jamila in turning an article supposedly about voting as a chance to wave the team Julia banner umpteen times.

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    • sharoncello

      …but you don’t have to go – the fine is only 20 bucks if you aren’t crossed off the electoral roll :)

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      • The Wounded Bull

        20 bucks might not be worth much to those sitting on deck chairs in trendy inner Sydney suburbs, but to many, it is worth the hassle of going to the local school, worth the hassle to run the gauntlet of those wanting to thrust how to vote cards in your face, even if you only intend to draw a funny stick figure drawing on the ballot papers.

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        • sharoncello

          True… but the choice is still yours.

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    • Bradley

      You are quite right, WB.

      An article about not taking your right to vote for granted DID take a stroll along the “Wave The Flag For Julia” Boulevarde.

      It even stopped for a nice cup of tea when it reached the cafe on the corner, enjoying it with a nice piece of cake !

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      • sunshiny day

        I’m waving my flag for Julia for all to see. Where’s the tea and cake?
        ps vote Labor!

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        • Anonymous

          That’s a flag I’ll be burning

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          • Bradley

            I’ll give you the matches !

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    • O's Mum

      Thanks for saying it WB… I sent a comment in pointing out I thought this piece was just another ALP promo and don’t think it has/will pass the MM censorship… Just like this, it was not rude, but this probably won’t make it either.
      C’es la vie!

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    • jamilarizvi

      Ah Wounded Bull, Bradley. I’ve missed our chats. Quite genuinely :D

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      • The Wounded Bull

        Bradley, I note just the smallest hint of sarcasm in the air. I gather there is no spare deck chairs with our names on them. You are welcome at my place anytime to have a good ol’ debate Jamila, but I can at best offer you an esky to sit on, sorry.

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      • Bradley

        Jamila, you do my heart much good ! :)

        Genuinely ! :)

        @ WB….I hope that there’s a spare Esky at your place for me to sit on when you and Jamila get together for that debate.

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  11. Noely

    Awesome! I was just thinking the same over the weekend, though I also question why we have to have a Two Party system at all (we have not always done so in our short democratic history?)… Nice work!

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    • Alexandra

      What about the Greens and the other political parties?

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  12. dnew72

    Right on sister! As a child of parents who emigrated to Australia in the 60′s from apartheid era South Africa & who were not allowed to vote because of the colour of their skin, it makes me so angry when people have the right to vote & don’t. It is a privilege. Think of Malala.

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  13. laurenrae

    Great article Jamila!

    We are so fortunate to have the right to vote, I don’t think people fully understand just what it is like in other countries. I was in South Africa during the last election there, and people walked for hours in sweltering heat just so they could tick a box and have their say. Aerial views of the voting lines showed they stretched on for kilometres in some places. And many of these people have nothing.

    But I also think that Australians have a responsibility to fully educate themselves about politics – it’s more than just casting a vote. I have some friends that treat political parties like football teams – if their Dad follows them, then they do too. We have to step away from the emotion and the media, do some proper reading and research, and then voice our opinion. What’s the point of a vote if it’s not an educated one?

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    • Anon (for this one)

      and unfortunately the people of South Africa will continue to have nothing while they continue to vote for the ANC!

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  14. Diana The Huntress

    I’m torn on this one. I vote Green/Labor, if I were American I would have voted for Obama.

    But.

    I don’t think it is helpful to hold Gillard/Obama up as sacred cows or beacons of hope simply because the other side is far worse. I think we can encourage debate and part of that is not automatically shutting down or being offended by criticism of leaders we have wrongly put on a pedestal. Gillard and Obama have done some admirable things. But they’ve also done some shit ones, and have schmoozed and played point-scoring like any other politician. Lionising leaders we happen to agree with is problematic, in my view.

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    • Bradley

      Very well said !

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    • Lisa66

      Diana, I totally agree, but I didn’t get that impression from this particular piece. I took this article to be making two points:
      1. Be grateful for the political process in this country.
      2. If you choose not to participate then don’t complain about the outcomes.

      Debate about issues, policy and performance is fantastic. I wish there was more of it. Proper debate that is, not the hand-wringing “they’re all as bad as each other” type whinging that seems to prevail (well, at least where I live!)

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  15. missamoo

    I couldn’t agree more if I had written the article myself. It’s so frustrating to hear people moan about our government on one hand and then tell you they donkey vote on the other, generally with a laugh at how clever they are. I have American friends who refuse to discuss politics with friends who don’t vote, how can you complain about something you choose not to be a part of. Is it a perfect system? Hell no, but if you aren’t participating they you cannot be a part of the change. Nothing makes me crosser than people saying ” but it’s just one vote ” factor in how many people say that and you can see why we get the government we deserve.

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  16. Alex

    Contrasting the system here with Taliban and Saudi case studies will always leave any argument dead in the water. Of course the illusion of democracy holds up well against obvious abuses of human rights.

    But in the west, its the discrete, hidden and protected abuses that are the problem. It’s the WASH of affecting visual media that infects our minds, supplementing real thought and analysis and keeping the average joe dumb and fat. It’s the battle to cut through all the B.S. we continually receive from politicians – to the point that we don’t expect anything more. It’s a State that carries out mindless subjective debate from non-professionals, of whom barely any are elected to office, who don’t have the intellectual capacity required for the job, who don’t have the human compassion to separate economic policy from social justice and achieves very little of the promises they sell us on.

    It’s Parliament Question Time where our leaders carry out character assassinations and personal attacks readily, and through the media. It’s the double speak and doubling back on any issue where it’s politically suitable and timely.

    So don’t tell us that it’s all okay, and that we should be thankful. I won’t be drawn into choosing the best of a bad bunch, and not through a system which doesn’t truly represent any of us with any efficiency or giving legitimacy to our concerns, let alone our basic mutual human needs, fairly.

    And your over simplistic perspective of democracy is highlighted by the fact that you seem to only feel like we have a say once per election. Working within the electoral framework, it’s true we don’t get much input, but we vote with our feet on a daily basis, by the criticisms we meet on our unsatisfactorily performing leaders, irrespective of how non-constructive you find that process, or how much it offends you that people you like aren’t viewed with the same fervour by your equal peers.

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    • Alex

      More than anything though, the fact that THIS issue is contentious in THIS country is evidence enough that there are massive problems with representation, or at least the unimportant fact that Australian citizens are feeling as though they are poorly represented.

      And that you chose to try your hand at a zesty persuasive article espousing the “freedoms” of the system which continues to fail most of us, and to silence its detractors, on the grounds of your personal emotional response and a whole lot of missing history…. Oratory genius; straight outta Shakespeare! Or is that straight outta Parliament?!

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    • Alison

      Thank you for an intelligent comment which gets to the heart of this matter.

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    • jamilarizvi

      Hi Alex,

      Thanks for such a well thought out comment. I take your points but I do feel that noting the extremes is relevant to the debate. Contrasting that which exists elsewhere, with our own system is necessary to pull us out of the cut and thrust of day to day debate and appreciate the system for what it is.

      Regardless of your political perspective or allegiance, surely we can all be in agreement that we live in a stable country, with a political process that has integrity and allows us to have faith that the outcome was a fair one?

      Jamila

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      • Ali Flint

        Alex seems to me more disillusioned with human nature than with politics itself. Because it’s really human nature he’s talking about. It’s a bit far-fetched to expect anything more or less than human nature from politicians. Perfection is desirable but far-fetched. We work with what we’ve got, and it’s never perfect but at least we work with it and it seems he doesn’t want to.

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        • Alex

          No acutally I’m talking about (mis)representation.

          And when there is NO SCOPE for overhaul, as is the case with representative democracy, then you need to work outside the framework.

          Not aspiring to a better world system is not an option, and working from within a rotten model will not achieve anything.

          Outspoken dissent is the only way drastic improvement will ever come into dialogue in this country, because the system isn’t built to be self-moderating or self-checking.

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          • Lulu

            “then you need to work outside the framework.”

            Like Occupy? Which achieved what exactly? It’s not as if there was a mass rush to vote outside the 2-party system in the US.

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            • Ali Flint

              What Lulu said, and also would “work outside the framework” include the possibility for more referendums (as in Switzerland) so that “outspoken dissent” can be exercised and moderated? Because there are lots of issues that realistically should be decided by a society not a political construct. Gay marriage would be a good example. It’s a social issue more than anything else, not political so a society should decide not a government. How exactly did you envisage “work outside the framework’?

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      • Alex

        Hrmm well I feel you were presenting a false dichotomy there to make your point seem more salient, and that a more metered and relevant analysis of perceived Australian ideologies would have been more relevant.

        But look no, I don’t feel confident in the integrity of our political process at all Jamila. What you see is NOT what you get with politics, and whilst most people WILL indeed be drawn into emotional and personally relevant issues around election time (that they are often disappointed by later down the line) when there are much bigger issues going on, and no politician does a thing. It’s not about working from within the system, which has shown us time and again that it is wrought with corruption and power mongers who are not in it for the good of the people.

        We live in a place which is IDEAL for renewable energies to be deployed, yet continue to invest money into new Uranium revenue streams, and chugging away through our fossil reserves. We have a workforce crying out for stuff to do, for an income by which to survive, crazily high unemployment rates in some parts, and a lacking public infrastructure set which has been undermined by 25 years of selling off. Yet where are the energy solutions being built?

        We now have a rollout of a ridiculous national “broadband” network but are still leveraging on the century old lie of needing cables, and not surprisingly much of the design of this project is going into supplementing the losses Telstra will incur by giving over some control at the incumbent end of the industry. This technology is ten years older and ten times more expensive than it needed to be, and will be redundant in a generation.

        There isn’t anyone anywhere who will espouse the need for nuclear except for those that have only economic factors in mind. Yet here we have the state signing QLD up for Uranium extraction and sale. AWFUL and not a matter of interpretation; well only if you’ve vested interests.

        I don’t trust in a government who employs PR tactics like removing links to House of Reps pages posted publicly on facebook because they highlight contentious issues which aren’t being talked about in the media.

        I don’t feel the political process has integrity in that it doesn’t allow for anyone to have a real say in that process. Just in the party they vote for once every so often, and who generally sell voters on matters they then have no intention or ability to deliver on. It’s wholesale deceit, wrapped up in the false dilemma presented. Sure the votes might be counted fairly, but you don’t need to fudge the numbers when the outcomes you want are achieved anyway, through brute lobbyist and economic power, and an obfuscating media veil that, for the most part, protects the deep issues from public scrutiny and focuses on the inane.

        And in any case, there are plenty reasons why your peers are crying out about or criticising “the system” as it were… And the only thing unAustralian I find about any of this, is the idea that you think repressing dissent is okay, on any level. Just No.

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  17. amyspeak

    I remember wanting to vote when I was 15, and from that day forward I was set on it. I enrolled as soon as I turned 17 (you can enrol but not vote til 18) and eagerly awaited the next election because I believe it’s important to be a part of the democratic process.

    Now, disillusioned and frustrated as I may be by the state of politics, I still think voting is important. Not voting won’t change anything, at least if you vote you have a voice.

    It’s good to have these things put into perspective by looking at our place in the world.

    One thing I don’t feel was touched on above, which is as important, is how voting actually works here (and the need for education around that). So many people say they will vote for “Gillard” or “Abbott” when they are only indirectly voting for our next PM. What really what counts is what the party policies are or, if you want to go to the individual, who is running in our electorate and how they can help us.

    Realising that can make it a little more heartening because it means we can focus on getting the best deal for our electorate, and work with that regardless of who is PM. Just my thoughts anyway, because so many people seem wrapped up in the “celebrity” of politics these days.

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    • Anonymous

      I find the number of people I know who do not understand how our political system works quite concerning. I would have thought this was part of the core curriculum in secondary school, apparently not.

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      • Kris2040

        It’s part of HSIE in upper primary – I remember learning about how parliament and our electoral system works then – it’s why there’s a whole industry built around the school trip to Canberra in Year 5 or 6.
        We then did it again in Legal Studies in High School too.

        From the NSW HSIE Syllabus (the 3 in 3.8 means stage 3, so years 5 and 6:

        SSS3.8
        Explains the structures, roles, responsibilities and
        decision-making processes of State and federal
        governments, and explains why Australians value
        fairness and socially just principles.
        • outlines the broad democratic political structures and
        gives examples of State and federal government
        responsibilities
        • researches and gives examples of how civic action has
        improved local, national and global communities
        • describes the means by which citizens influence the
        decisions and actions of their governments, eg
        referendums, protest
        • explains how laws are developed and changed
        • demonstrates an understanding of representation and
        democratic processes by participating in class and
        school decision-making, eg contributes to the student
        council or school parliament as either a class
        representative or through a representative
        • describes the interdependence of State and federal
        responsibilities
        • discusses the responsibility of the judiciary and the
        executive arms of government to carry out laws passed
        • gathers information about the rights and
        responsibilities of being an Australian citizen
        • shows an interest in, and a willingness to provide
        opinions about, community issues
        • describes the electoral processes used in Australia
        • describes the contributions of some groups, movements
        and policies to the development of fairness and social
        justice in Australia, eg anti-discrimination legislation
        • reflects on situations where majority vote or public
        opinion may lead to harmful consequences for social
        cohesion
        • reflects on the ways in which religious beliefs affect
        decision-making
        • examines instances where democratic beliefs have not
        been met
        • compares Australian and other systems of government
        in terms of fairness and socially just principles and
        human rights.

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    • Noely (@YaThinkN)

      Very true! My daughter finished High School last year and the State School system in Queensland does not teach it at all? (Unless you did Modern History, which next to no-one does). We always have teenagers in our office for work experience and part-time work as they have to enter Govt & Council releases onsite for me, I always have to explain the different levels of Government to them as they have no idea at all. In over a decade I have only had one teenager who did understand Government levels and how it worked and he was from an exclusive Private School… So I guess, going into the future, unless your parents educate you, it means that only Private School kids will be making ‘informed’ decisions when voting, and worse, probably be the only candidates as well :(

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      • Kris2040

        Think that’ll probably change when the Australian Curriculum comes in. Seems strange that it isn’t taught at all though. It’s in primary school here in NSW, as I copied from the syllabus ^^.

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        • Tala

          Up until last year in Qld it was taught in Year 7 and the school trip to Canberra was Yr 7. I think with the new Australian curriculum this year it’s being taught in Yr 6 (maybe 5?)
          But my daughter was taught it in Yr 7 – which is last yr of primary school in Qld (currently).

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        • LIsa66

          Definitely taught in Victoria too.

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      • Anonymous

        Actually, I did learn the political system in year 7 in Queensland. We learnt how to vote and all.

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  18. Anonymous

    and also… this notion that we are the 1%… insulting…. yes maybe some of us…. but there are many, many Australians living waaaay below the poverty line…. and also many living in third-world conditions without access to the sort of education, nutrition and healthcare that are supposedly available to all Australians. We are not the egalitarian, classless society that we like to pretend we are.

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  19. Sarah

    I’m curious…

    You feel you aren’t represented by any of the current options. Do you plan to do anything about that or are you waiting for someone else to step up and fill the void?

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  20. Elise

    Generally I agree, but this:

    ” But you don’t get to rant and rave that the Government is so focused on spin that it never gets anything done and at the same time bitch and moan that the carbon tax wasn’t ‘sold’ well enough to the electorate.”

    Yes, I do. They ARE overly focused on spin – that doesn’t mean they’re good at it.

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  21. CK

    I agree with some of your comments, and disagree with many. Ultimately, I’m thankful I live in Australia, where I really can label all local gripes as first world problems.

    I do wish that comment on politics didn’t automatically mean getting ‘spoken to’. Intelligent debate is wonderful. Imagine if opinions were expressed without the anger and superiority we’re unfortunately now becoming accustomed to?

    Jamila, and broader Mamamia Team; I know this will make me look like an a-hole, but I’m OCD about this and can’t help myself; it’s ‘di’int’, not ‘dinnit’.

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  22. Annabelle

    I always think of Jacob Coote’s speech in Looking for Alibrandi:

    “…in this country, we don’t vote to keep the best party in – cos there’s no such thing – but we vote to keep the worst party out. Because I don’t want to end up being watched by some bloke at the other end of the world who thinks that this can’t happen to him.”

    Yes, I think the politicians we have at the moment are by and large a sorry lot, but I vote so that extremist parties on both ends of the spectrum stay on the fringe of politics. I may not like him, but Barry O’Farrell is better than Fred Nile running the show!

    “The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing.”

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  23. Jenna

    Beautifully said, Jamila.
    Anyone who says life wouldn’t be that different under another party obviously does not look at the policies or beliefs of each party. Be informed. Thinks of all the luxuries afforded to you, becuase you have the right to vote. Think of Malala Yousafzai. You are educated, because we can all vote. You have medical care because we can all vote. You have access to money if you lose your job, because we can all vote.

    First world whining pushes me over the edge.

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  24. J

    Wonderfully written. I hope you got the chance to say this to her as well!

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  25. anon

    Jamilla,

    For a start, anyone can trash the ALP if they want to. It’s a fre country. We do have certain freedoms here, and I know the ALP luvvies would like to restrict the voices of their opponents but you’ll just have to get used to the idea that people are going to trash the ALP.

    The faction and caucus systems of the ALP absolutely stink, so does the ALP practice of tossing people out of the party if they dare to cross the floor. MP’s are there to put the Australian people first, not the party.

    The ALP are hypocrits, they proudly boast that they have lots of female candidates, but most of them have no chance of winning seats, because the favourite boys in the factions get the winnable seats, yet the women of the ALP bag the crap out of the conservatives for not having a quota system.

    The current crop of ALP parliamentarians have no idea of how the real world works, they are either lawyers or washed up union luvvies who have never done the work of the people they represent. In short, the ALP are nothing but a bunch of clubbies who restrict membership to people who do the bum boy thing to those in favour that month.

    As for Obama, I don’t quite understand why the ALP claims him as one of their own, the Democrats are more akin to the moderates in the Liberal Party, they certainly aren’t the socialists of the ilk of the ALP, so really, if you’re beating Obama’s drum you should be a small L liberal.

    Finally, your point about voting or not voting is valid, people will die this year somewhere in the world because they are fighting for the right to vote, so people bitching about having to vote is abhorrent to me.

    I’m not trying to run you down Jamilla, you’re an intelligent woman and I particularly like your determination for standing up for what you think is right, it’s just that I think the ALP is a waste of your talents and you’d be much more use in the LNP to help the moderates of the party convince the right wingers that Malcolm Turnbull is a better option than the present leader of the Party.

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    • Paula

      It’s a shame that so many Australians feel disenfranchised and let down by the current political debate. But that’s no reason to turn our backs on the democratic process.

      The best way to make sure we get our views heard is by participation, whether it’s voting or even standing for election! We’re incredibly lucky to live in a country that allows freedom of views and political association – others are not so lucky.

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    • vanessayoung

      It is most frustrating when someone writes a timely piece of such eloquence, and is prepared to put their own name to it, to have it hijacked by the ubiquitous “anon” with a badly spelled argument about one party.
      I, too, find it puzzling that people do not appreciate the right to vote and to have access to many ways of participating in free public debate and in the political process. I find it particularly frustrating when those people are women.

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      • anon

        I write under “anon” because everything that I write under my own name is deleted.

        Which words are badly spelled?

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        • curious

          is that you wounded bull????

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          • The wounded bull

            Not me, nice that you are thinking of me though

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      • Megan

        In “anon”‘s defense, I’m fairly certain the only spelling errors were ‘hypocrits’ and ‘Jamilla’ – the post is hardly laden with them.

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    • Sarah

      Anon – neither major political party is perfect. The minor parties aren’t either.

      I think its clear which way Jamila’s political allegiences go but thats not the point of her article and posting this kind of rant against the ALP cheapens the tone of the discussion.

      Aim higher.

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      • anon

        Jamilla speciffically mentions the ALP at least 5 times, I’m merely responding to the apologies from Jamilla for the poor performance of the Government. Why shouldn’t I do that? If the article was only about voting there would be no need to mention the ALP at all, or her friend’s apparent criticism of the ALP.

        I didn’t open the door.

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    • Anon 2.0

      You’ve missed the point of this article entirely. Jamila isn’t pushing an agenda, she’s pointing out that everyone in a democracy has a voice and the ability to replace a government they don’t like, however her friend announced that he/she wouldn’t be voting.

      It is ironic that you’re accusing Jamila of using this article as a platform to espouse her views and to hush any opposition, as you’ve done just that in your ranting comment against the ALP.

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    • My name's Kate

      Anon – I’m cheering! Well said. I’m heartily sick to death of Gillard and the ALP being defended and THAT is what I find offensive.

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    • sharoncello

      I love your paragraph about Obama being more aligned with moderate Liberals and heartily agree with you :)
      I align myself as a moderate Liberal – in fact I’d probably vote LDP if they ever ran a candidate in my electorate :)

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    • JessG

      Anon- I am nodding along as I read your post! I appreciate the author’s right to her political opinion but I don’t understand why this article needed to include it. Nevertheless it worries me how many people on here are harping on about J-gill.

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    • Jackie

      Beautifully written anon, I especially liked your comments about Obama being a small l Lib. As a moderatel Lib I would be voting democrat if I lived in the US.

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  26. Sarah

    I agree entirely.

    its very easy to bleat from the sidelines and point out the flaws of others.

    its much harder to give up your time and money to try and improve things. I always find the people who make these kinds of comments are never willing to make any kind of personal sacrifice to improve the situation they consider so dire.

    Drives me mad.

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  27. AlysJ

    Jamila, you always seem to take the things I want to say and say them clearly and with eloquence. Thank you :) x

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  28. kellyexeter

    Aargh Jamila – I can’t believe people you know have these conversations in front of you! Your head must want to explode.

    I get very frustrated with my fellow Australians who have no concept of just how lucky we are here Down Under. Not only do we have the right to vote in a safe and democratic manner … but we also have two political parties who, on a macro level, will run this country equally well. I the latter is pretty bloody amazing just by itself.

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  29. sharoncello

    Oh! According to the Australian Electoral Commission “You can enrol to vote for the first time or get back on the roll if you:
    - are an Australian citizen or a British subject who was enrolled on 25 January 1984, and
    - are 18 years or older*, and
    - have lived at your current address for at least one month.”

    So yes, Australian citizens have the right to vote – but we also have the right to not vote (because we are a free country)! We also have the right to not even show up and have our name crossed off the electoral roll (because we are a free country), but if we do that there is a compulsory fine (of $20). If we don’t pay the fine and they take us to court we can be ordered to pay up to $50 plus costs. The responsibility to vote is a moral responsibility (and as a free country we can and do have different moral compasses).

    In my opinion an Australian citizen doesn’t forfeit the right to have a say if they don’t vote (because we are a free country). There are many, many people living in Australia (because we actually do welcome immigrants, but we don’t force them to become citizens) who don’t have the right to vote here – do they get no say at all?

    Also, just so there is no confusion here, I have voted at every single election in the 26 years since I turned 18.

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  30. lala

    This is a magic article, thank you so much for writing it!! If people speak to someone from another country where voting can be quite frankly a dangerous task, they are astounded at how flippantly aussies take their right to vote.
    I give this article a million Crying Kitty stars.
    :)

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  31. Alison

    I don’t think people not wanting to vote says so much about us, rather than what it says about our politicians.

    There are honestly no good candidates to vote for. That’s why donkey voting was so high last election.

    People were exercising their right to choose and they were choosing ‘none of the above’. We were telling the parties – none of you are good enough, clean house and give us someone who is worth leading the country.

    At least in America, citizens have a clear choice of who they are voting for and what that candidate stands for.

    Australian politicians are all about media grabs, school yard taunts and commissioning reports rather than actually doing anything of value. Only our independents show any real representation of the people.

    You want me to vote? Give me someone worth voting for.

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    • lala

      do you know a Donkey Vote is actually people numbering all the boxes straight down the ballot paper, and is actually counted?
      I think you mean informal vote where it was either left blank, or the voter only put a number 1 on there (and the incorrect voting stats where people didn’t follow the instructions were actually higher than the blank “protest” vote stats – you might want to look that up and check your facts)
      And the result of the last election (a hung parliament) was very indicative of what people thought at the time – hopefully people won’t take it so flippantly next time.
      YOu do have a choice – there is generally always at least three candidates on the house of reps ballot paper (and up to 15 or 16 in some electorates) – and a myriad of people to vote for in the senate if you don’t take the lazy way out voting above the line, and take the time to vote below the line.
      Stop whingeing about the result we get if you dont’take the time to participate – you forefit your right to complain if you can’t be bothered voting at all.
      How about you put your hand up to stand as an independant at the next election?It only takes a few signatures of enrolled voters and about $500 deposit (which you get back if you get at least 2% of the vote). GO on, do it!

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      • Alison

        Ummmm…I WAS talking about donkey voting. It’s about sending a message to the major parties that they need to provide better options.

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        • Ella

          Donkey voting does not send any kind of message, as it is counted as a valid vote. My preferences may truly have been in the order that they are listed on the paper, therefore saying that any paper that is numbered sequentially down the page is “sending a message to the major parties that they need to provide better options” is invalid.

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    • Ali Flint

      Alison your comment smacks of ‘give me …’. Perhaps you could try considering what you yourself can give. It’s your democracy and it’s up to you to maintain it. Not just for yourself but for everybody. Because it took a lot of work to get it and it’s valuable. Let’s not lose it. Attitudes like those you expressed only contribute to its loss. How much would one or the boat people pay only to have the citizenship belonging to you.

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      • Nicki

        I love this comment Ali

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      • Alison

        Oh, get off your soapbox. Yes, my comment should smack of ‘give me’. I work extremely hard, pay taxes, and lobby / support my local representatives.

        I’m sick and tired of Australians having to vote in the likes of Julia Gillard and Tony Abbott.

        I think it is more than fair for an Australian to be able to turn up on polling day and say on their form ‘I choose none of you’. In fact, that is using my vote more wisely than someone who just ‘voted X because I’ve always voted X’.

        If you’re happy with a second rate PM, enjoy it, but don’t ask me to vote for what I see is a poor choice, just because the parties are too scared to actually provide someone who stands for something.

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        • Steph

          Alison, It took me months of candidate research and 45 minutes in the voting booth voting below the line and ensuring I elected the candidates that I felt would be good for Australia. There were hundreds to choose from. Either you’ve failed to educate yourself or your standards are far too unrealistic. Either way, a vote for someone who probably won’t get a seat but who has a strong vision for Australia has much more value than a pathetic donkey vote.

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          • Alex

            Steph – your knowledge of how the voting system works in reality is gobsmacking. You fail to realise that all votes have equal value. That isn’t to say that the value translates into effect. The only value that comes from voting in a system like ours, is the empowerment it gives the constituency (like yourself) in feeling like they have some impact, which is nary the case.

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    • Paula

      You could always stand for election yourself.

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  32. Flutterby

    Just a reminder, if you really want to express yourself fully in voting NUMBER EVERY BOX.

    When you do this, it’s almost like a second chance at voting and it’s a way that the minor parties get up. We need minor parties to bring balance to government – especially Queensland where we have no senate.

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    • Faybian

      I always do this. I’m the only one of my family that does, but it’s five minutes or less out of my life. I want to make my vote count the most it can.

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    • Anon (for this one)

      I also number all the boxes for the senate. That’s the only way I know that the Greens and other left-wing loonies are at the bottom.

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  33. Alison

    Jamila you rock. Agree 100 per cent.

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  34. Jen

    Wow. Just wow. Wish you were my friend! The line that punched me the most? Out of 7 billion people, WE are the 1%. All of my petty shit just disappeared. Thank you Jamila for some much needed perspective.

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  35. Moi

    well said Jamila.

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  36. Julie

    The question, Jamila, is why should this ingrate and his/her fellow fools have the same value to their ill-considered and thoughtless vote as someone who carefully considers policies, researches the positions of various parties and makes considered decisions. Although I agree that we were founded on our votes, remember how long it took for women, and then Aboriginal people to be allowed to vote. Those who abuse it in the way you describe shouldn’t automatically have that right, as they have no understanding of responsibility. The older I get, the more in favour of non-compulsory voting I am – though not the way the Americans do it.

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    • Cate

      South Australian Women including Aboriginal women (Aboriginal men already had it) got the vote in 1894 and that was decided by a “vote”

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    • Noely

      Actually that comment is a tad unfair… We live in a democracy where it is a legal requirement to vote, BUT, there is no legal requirement on behalf of the Government to actually educate us on what we are voting for? Unfortunately for many Australians they have never actually even been taught what our voting system is at all, how it works, and due to the media’s love of the two horse race, they often think they only have a choice between two?

      There is a big divide between the so called ‘carefully considered’ vote where that person has been lucky enough to be educated about our political system and the ‘ill-considered and thoughtless” vote? Most of the so-called ‘ill-considered’ voters are just people who are not educated (yet expected to be) who are so busy actually paying a mortgage, looking after kids or a business and working that they do not have time to try to self-educate and therefore are easy to con in regard to media hype about policy sadly :(

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      • K8e.

        Mmmm… I also hate to say this, but many of us were taught this stuff in school, and now would have no idea what it means… sad but true, i went to primary school with a class of maybe 30 kids and i clearly remember learning about the democratic system etc but I honestly think at least 20 of them would have no clue about voting etc these days… :(

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  37. chrissy

    Amen to that

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  38. FHB

    Wouldn’t it be nice if they brought in a law whereby electoral advertisements must only contain policy and what the party stands for.

    Personal I find it repulsive (among other things) that each party spends public money on these awful hate campaigns. We shouldn’t ever have an election decided on which majority is scared off the other party the most.

    That’s absurd.

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    • An Idle Dad

      I’m the opposite. Public money ONLY should be spent on electoral advertising. If no public money, then parties rely on donations from special interest groups.

      I do, however, LOVE your idea that advertising could only on policy.

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      • FHB

        Yeah, I’m not a fan either of contributions, it always seems a little dirty, a little like purchasing power.

        So in the system we have I think public money only too.

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    • Bradley

      I’d like to see “policy only” political advertising.

      Great suggestion.

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  39. Cyndi

    Actually, we don’t have a two party system….ever heard of The Greens? Actual progressives,with policy based on evidence not focus groups. Or even the myriad of smaller parties from Socialists to Shooters. I absolutely agree with your argument that participating in democracy is precious and should be embraced, but just remember there is more to choose from than the Liberals and Labor. And of course your friend could always join a political party if she really wanted to make a difference!

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    • jamilarizvi

      Hi Cyndi,

      I wasn’t ignoring the other political parties, just making the point that none of them are capable of forming a Government. And that last sentence makes me want to high 5 you!

      Jamila

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  40. Emmjayt

    I love it. If you choose not to exercise your responsibility to vote, you have forfeited the right to bitch about the results. I’m so thankful I live in a county that expects me to participate in choosing our government.

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    • Jimmy's Girl

      Not so. A donkey vote is just as legitimate an option. If the state tries to force me by law to vote for one pack of idiots over another, I am quite satisfied with voting for none of them, and have done so, in fact, for the last two NSW state elections. I felt none of them were worth wasting my time on, so chose to get my name crossed off and vote for no one. Doesn’t mean I don’t have a right to whinge about state politics as they stand. If someone gets up with some decent ideas and policies, I will vote for them.

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  41. Alison

    Nice one Jamila. Every time I go to vote I am so conscious of the fact that we are so lucky and we should never take for granted lining up, ticking the boxes and buying a sausage at the school BBQ. Dissillusioned or not, we should never be complacent about our system. Excellent piece.

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  42. Diotima

    Wonderful letter.. Thank you!

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