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Screen shot 2012 11 12 at 6.49.00 AM A letter to my so called progressive friend.

Jamila Rizvi (wearing Owl of Eden necklace for all of you who have asked!)

 

 

Dear friend,

I have sat quietly during these past 5 years and picked at my already-damaged cuticles, while listening to you hold court with our mates and bemoan the state of modern politics. I haven’t spoken up. I haven’t pushed back.

I have quite literally bitten my tongue (and that bloody hurts by the way) while I watched you insult politicians who I admire and ideas I have faith in, all in the name of dinner party conversational popularity.

But I’m done with my politeness now. Because last night, you went too far.

While lazily reclining on a deck chair in Newtown, you claimed that metaphorical soapbox with your usual zeal and you were, quite simply: a bit of a dick. In a backyard full of bleeding heart lefties, you thought you’d distinguish yourself, prove you’re just that much more outrageously progressive than the rest of us.

And so you had a go at Barack.

In the spirit of a hysterical contestant on America’s Next Top Model, please imagine my finger being waved in your face right now, with my head moving sideways on top of a stationary neck: “Oh no you dinnit.”

But it wasn’t that which pushed me over the edge, it was what came next. As you took the field for a quick game of your favourite sport – trashing the Labor Party – you said that the Americans’ excuse for progressive politics was no better than Australia’s and there was nothing worth celebrating in Obama winning a second term.

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Prime Minister Julia Gillard.

You said we shouldn’t hope for a Gillard victory in Australia to follow on from Obama’s in the States because what difference would it make anyway? She’s not a real progressive you ranted. The Labor Party are a mess you cried. Things wouldn’t change that much if Tony Abbott became Prime Minister?

You said that the system was screwed, that you wanted no part of it, that you would cop an electoral commission fine on the chin and wouldn’t even vote next time around.

Yeah. That’s right.

So I’m done with staying quiet now.

My friend, when we walk into a polling booth on election day we are doing so much more than deciding who we would like our local representative to be. We are playing our part in a system that ensures a stable, democratic and peaceful Australia.

An Australia that (to quote the terribly corny but awfully catchy advertising campaign) was founded on a vote not a war. An Australia whose political system may not always produce the charismatic leaders you long for but whose parliamentary processes ensure order and good governance is maintained.

An Australia whose political system – despite facing tests in recent years that would have seen many nations descend into civil war – continues to deliver what its people need to get by every day: clean water to drink, safe roads to drive on, good schools to send their children to, hospitals that come to their aid when they’re sick…

Throughout history, millions have given their lives for the right to have a say in who governs their country; the right that you’re perfectly content to flush down the toilet next year.

Far too many are still fighting today.

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15 year old Malala was shot in the head by the Taliban.

Tell me this: Could you look a Saudi Arabian woman in the eyes and tell her that you don’t want to cast your vote in a free, fair and open election? Could you justify the ‘political point’ you’re apparently going to make, to the family of someone killed during the anti-Assad uprising in Syria? How about to a citizen who has been jailed after publicly criticising the Chinese Communist Party? How about to the 15 year old Pakistani girl who took a bullet to the head, in her fight to get a decent education?

The two party system may not be perfect but it gives you choice. While avoiding a parliament dominated by too many warring tribes, it gives us the right to choose while also delivering a functional and workable system of law making.

It is your choice who you vote for and why you vote for them. And I agree, that it is a sad reflection on the offerings of each party if you choose to exercise your vote against the party you don’t want to see in power rather than for the party you do. But the fact remains, you get to choose.

In Australia you have a right to vote, yes. But you also have a responsibility. The relationship between the elector and the elected doesn’t go one way – it’s a contract, a bargain, an agreement – and you have to play your part too.

I know you feel disillusioned by many of the actions of the Australian Labor Party federally. I know you expected and hoped for more from the past 5 years of Government. I did too.

The factional system remains a point of contention and division for the ALP and the influence of the union movement can make those who would otherwise become members, anxious about doing so. A willingness to compromise too far on core progressive beliefs has been terribly disappointing. And the increasing power of the media – thanks to a 24-hour-news-cycle – means that spin prevails over substance far more often than it should.

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Not voting makes the kittens cry.

The ALP can, should and must do better. Yes. But you don’t get to rant and rave that the Government is so focused on spin that it never gets anything done and at the same time bitch and moan that the carbon tax wasn’t ‘sold’ well enough to the electorate.

I am sick of the sniping from the sidelines. I am frustrated by the unwillingness of you and others to participate in a system that makes it so easy for you to do so, nay, encourages you to do so.

You have had a safe and secure upbringing, a first class education and have been given all the wealth and opportunity in the world. Of the 7 billion people living on this planet today – you are the one percent. You have no excuse not to make the most of what you’ve been given.

You have so many platforms available to you, through which you can make your voice heard. And there exists no bigger megaphone than that little lead pencil they give you inside a cardboard polling booth at the local primary school on election day.

Please don’t insult the many millions who are less fortunate than you, by saying you’re not going to use it.

Jamila

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230 Comments so far

  1. Patrick

    Although non-constructive criticism/whinging is worth calling out, i think you’ve been a little too harsh. I mean, surely we can expect more than water, basic infrastructure, services etc.

    Yes, there are lots of people in the world that are worse off than us, but by that logic, it would be unreasonable to be critical of our conditions unless they were at least as bad as those in the worst place on earth. Doesn’t leave much room for progress.

    And besides, i would argue that one of the failings of the moderate left is their weak efforts (or no effort) to change the situation in those countries. Increasing foreign aid, onshore processing of refugees, and better effort at dealing with climate change to name a few.

    I know not all of these things are possible immediately, but isn;t it the job of progressives to push hard for these things? Culture and social license has to develop too.

    I will be voting at the election, but i hope that everyone who cares does a lot more than that.

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  2. Jackie

    Didnt this article run a couple of weeks ago?
    Perhaps you could give us an article of what is happening in Irsael & Gaza, explaining the history of the conflict & possible outcomes & how it effects us?

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    • Lucy Ormonde

      Hi Jackie,
      Yes – this article ran early last week. We posted it again because we realised lots of people aren’t able to read Mamamia during the week and the weekend is their time to catch up.
      And on Israel and Gaza – there’s something in the works. Watch this space.
      Lucy

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  3. Izzy

    This article annoys me because it seems to have the view that “at least we have it better than others”
    Oh what an excellent point! Let’s just be complacent with our shitty health care system, shitty roads, shitty transport system etc because at least we have it better than those in Saudi Arabia!
    I do however believe you forfeit your right to a political opinion if you don’t vote. My dad purposely managed to get kicked off the electoral roll so I tell him he has no right to have his political opinion heard!

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  4. Bradley

    The mysterious “friend” had a go at “BARACK” ?

    And apparently got out of the situation alive !

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    • r

      you have made the same point at least three times bradley.

      isn’t the term ‘poetic license’.

      i am sure details have been changed to protect her friend. why spend time picking apart the details of this post, when it seems to be designed to open a discussion about voting.

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      • Bradley

        As someone much wiser than I will ever be once remarked…..the Devil is in the details !

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    • Anonymous

      About as likely as me winning Miss Nude America.

      (5 births, 7 years breatfeeding, 52 years of age and been feeding in the top paddock for quite some time)

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  5. Fufu

    Why is the article featuring again?

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    • afw

      I have noticed a few repeat articles on here lately. The Dinner with Charles & Camilla one seems to have moved up the chain again yesterday / today also.

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  6. sophie

    I still feel uncomfortable with the line about Australia being founded on a vote.

    Who voted, Jamila?
    White men. Only.
    And then Aboriginal people were classed as “fauna” in the constitution until at least the late 1960s.

    I appreciate the right to vote, but I share with others the disillusionment that arises when there is noone left worth voting for.

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    • Elephant

      Actually… Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders are still classified fauna and flora in the constitution. The 1967 Referendum gave them the right to vote, however, we’re still yet to reconigse them as the custodians of the land we now call Australia, the Nation’s First Peoples and as HUMAN BEINGs in our constitution… The journey of full reconigtion is still to be compeleted. Even better will be the day that Australia has a Treaty.

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      • Alice

        That is just not true anymore. Nobody is any longer classified as flora or fauna. And the referendum didn’t grant the right to vote: it allowed the Federal Government make laws affecting Aboriginal people, whereas they’d previously been included under the flora and fauna status.

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      • Actually

        Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islanders were never classified as flora and fauna in the written text of the constitution, they just weren’t counted in the number of people in the Commonwealth (an abhorrent classification nonetheless). What you’re referring to is the Flora and Fauna Act, which has obviously been amended to remove aboriginals since then.

        Also, the 1949 Electoral Amendment Act gave Aboriginals the right to vote Federally, the last state to grant them the right to vote was Queensland in 65.

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    • anon

      What a remarkable display of ignorance.

      Women in South Australia voted during the federation plebicide. I don’t know about other states.

      What is this rubbish about “white men” voting. England’s Parliament was formed way back in the 13th century (reasonably close to today’s form), but only landowners with a holding of greater than 40 shillings could vote, That meant that only some men could vote in England until the 1840′s, when universal suffrage for men was introduced without the need for owning land. Women in Australia were only 60 years behind men in getting universal suffrage.

      Even then, in South Australia, only landowners could vote in the upper house until about 1970.

      So universal suffrage? Yeah, it happened for both men and women in (South Australia), at the same time.

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    • Catherine

      Sorry I have to disagree. http://www.aec.gov.au/voting/indigenous_vote/aborigin.htm
      “But the referendum didn’t give Aborigines the right to vote. They already had it. Legally their rights go back to colonial times. When Victoria, New South Wales, Tasmania and South Australia framed their constitutions in the 1850s they gave voting rights to all male British subjects over 21, which of course included Aboriginal men. And in 1895 when South Australia gave women the right to vote and sit in Parliament, Aboriginal women shared the right. Only Queensland and Western Australia barred Aborigines from voting.” It pays to know your own history.

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  7. Merri

    Ha! I cannot wait for the election!

    There are election parties already being organized. I’ve got my outfit hanging up, my dancing shoes ready to go and I’m going to go nuts!!

    I’m going to be at the polling booth as the sun rises. Watch everything get set up. Be the first to vote. Have a small/huge emotional collapse through relief that this nightmare government is drawing its last breath. Then I’m going to eat sausages in white bread with tomato sauce and watch and listen to the solidarity of my fellow countrymen and women as we give this rabble the mother of all hidings.

    Then, as the booths close, I’ll head home and get ready for the fireworks and the dancing in the streets! And Julia’s concession speech … where she’ll blame Tony Abbott for making them lose.

    Did I say I can’t wait? I. Can’t. Wait. I CAN’T WAIT.

    Jamila, I know the mummy bloggers have a direct line to the Scot. Would you mind asking him if the election is in six months, as rumoured, or not till November 30 2013? Just trying to work out the catering. Ta.

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    • Faybian

      Oh, Merri, please. Enough with the theatrics. We all get it, you don’t like (understatement I know) the ALP, but find a hobby or something. Unless you’re a member of the Libs or Nats, which I suspect, no one plans a party for anything other than a wedding, 50th anniversary/birthday maybe a year in advance.

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      • Merri

        I’m more excited about the election than I am about my daughter’s wedding next month, in fact.

        Four invitations and counting.

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      • Bradley

        I would imagine that many parties based on the same theme are currently in the planning stages, right around this great country of ours.

        Some will planned by those of us looking for a hobby, others will be planned by professionals. They will all be great events. Come join us, Faybian ! You are more than welcome !

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    • r

      you clearly haven’t been following the polls then merri ;)

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      • Bradley

        Oh yes she hassss ! :)

        r…..consider this an invitation to my party. I will welcome you with open arms. You won’t even have to BYO !

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        • pennypacker

          I would love to come just to see the look on your face when you lose! Hope you don’t mind if I continue partying on, since you’re supplying the drinks. :-) . GO JULIA!!!! p.s vote labor

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  8. Anonymous

    Let’s whip the masses into a voting frenzy! After all, the left always benefit when the politically illiterate hit the booths.

    If your ‘so-called progressive’ friend had your tongue bleeding, i think you’d spontaneously combust if you heard what we think of Obama and Gillard out here in the suburbs.

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    • Anonymous

      I live in the suburbs and adore Obama, and vote Labor. Is that what you mean?

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  9. Lucinda

    Wow I can’t believe how many people whinge about having to vote. And honestly claim to have no interest in how this country is run and by who. I’d love to round them all up and send them to some third world country run by dictatorship, where they have no rights at all and see if they change their tune…

    This country has become full of tunnel visioned and arrogant people who can’t see past the end of their own noses. People don’t seem to see how privileged most of us in this country are these days, it’s very sad.

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  10. Chelsea!

    Compulsory voting is ridiculous. As much as I value my right to vote, it shouldn’t be compulsory. And using the “it’s only a $20 dollar fine/you just have to show up” argument is stupid. The fact is, if there is no party that I would be happy voting for, why should I have to bother turning up to a voting booth or be fined? We’re supposed to have a CHOICE, so why shouldn’t we choose if we vote or not?

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    • Lucinda

      Because if it wasn’t, a LOT of people would not vote at all. And of that group, many (while voting is compulsory) would cast a valid vote and give it a little bit of consideration because they are there anyway and may as well make it count. If too many people didn’t vote, it would not be a real democracy. There are reciprocal rights and responsibilities that come with being a citizen of this country. It is not that hard to turn up to a polling booth and have your name crossed off.

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    • Anon

      Wow, another totally ignorant comment.

      You don’t have to vote, you just have to get your name marked off on election day.

      If you don’t like the choices then you can vote for an independent, or vote informal, or just leave your ballot blank.

      Please stop showing how much you don’t know.

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      • Chelsea!

        wow another person who didn’t read my comment.
        I know you can ‘just show up’ (said that in my comment) but you shouldn’t have to.

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        • anon

          Yes you should get off your backside and show up. Even if it is only to write the unfriendly f word on your ballot. It happens once every 2 or three years, it’s not t6hat onerous.

          With rights come responsibilities. Or is that too hard to understand?

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    • Patrick

      In countries with voluntary voting there are often social groups who, for whatever reason, don’t vote as much as others. Sometimes race, religion, socio-demographic, whatever.

      The point is that political parties have access to this information and can target campaigns at those most likely to vote, which in some cases means privileged groups. Compulsory voting means that parties have to try to represent everyone.

      And then there’s all of the voter suppression that was going on at the last election in the US.

      Although i see your point about choice, i think it’s a small price to pay to ensure a fair system, and equal representation (or something closer to it).

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  11. Bradley

    Reading the article again, I have to say…..Jamila, I don’t believe that you would keep company with or refer to as your friend any individual who spent five minutes slagging off your darling ALP, let alone five years slagging off your darling ALP.

    You would have dropped them into the “can’t be converted” box immediately and taken your leave even quicker.

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    • Faybian

      Haven’t you ever had even a casual friend whose views you didn’t agree with? If we agreed on everything, life would certainly be boring.

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    • Anonymous

      I just noticed this article had been moved to the top again and thought the same as you, Bradley.

      I very much doubt Mysterious Friend has been allowed to bad mouth Mz Gillard and the gang.

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    • guest

      I think its called fiction, Bradley.

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      • Bradley

        Science fiction, perhaps ?

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    • anon

      Bradley,

      I can’t imagine Jamila being quiet about the Liberal Party for 5 years either.

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  12. FHB

    Mods?

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  13. Sam

    Compulsory voting is ridiculous!! I have no knowledge (or inclination to learn) of politics – why would you want me voting??

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    • ClaireC

      Because it affects your lives and the country as a whole. It doesn’t take much to get educated about politics.

      Anyway, it’s not compulsory to vote here, all you have to do is turn up to a polling station, get your name crossed off the list, you are then free to walk away if you wish.

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  14. Nat

    As dissillusioned as I may be, I will vote regardless. But tell me why you didn’t speak up to your friend….. 5 years of ‘biting’ your tongue….?

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    • Bradley

      Not wishing to sound rude, but I don’t believe that the “friend” exists.

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      • The Tip Master

        I also doubt Jamila has the ability to bite her tounge. She seems to be an out spoken kinda gal.

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      • Nat

        Ah ha….makes sense.
        P.S no offence taken. :)

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  15. zabie

    I don’t really understand why you sat back in silent disagreement for so long, letting your emotions and frustration build up to this level! Surely it’s possible to engage in healthy debate with someone without being impolite or disrespectful about it? I’d hate to think of my friends silently fuming instead of just being upfront and willing to exchange ideas when they disagree with what I’m saying.

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  16. Alana

    I have never been a fan of Jamila-until now.

    You go girl.

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  17. Celia

    Could not agree more Jamila! No matter what your political views are, it is a privilege to vote and have your voice heard. Don’t waste your vote. Ever. We are so lucky to be in a country where we have a choice, and can air our political views without risk of imprisonment or even death.

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  18. Permersuasery

    ok!

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  19. Eleanor

    I agree that the vote is probably our greatest birthright, but I’m so sick of these concessions made towards the labor party, Julia Gillard and Barack because they are better than their counterparts. Yes I will vote next year, but no I will not feel satisfied about having voted for the lesser of two evils. Our two party system is a complete joke, for government we are choosing between a hard-right and a center-right party. Jamila, and those commenting below claiming that the labor party isn’t also the ‘wrong’ party, I challenge you to go for a day visit at Villawood detention centre, and then tell me about how democratic and peace-loving our government and electoral system are.

    So yes, shame on your friends for being so unaware of their privilege, but also shame on those supporting a government that is so obviously breaching the most basic of human rights to hundreds of people who have escaped persecution in war-torn countries because they are marginally better than the other lot.

    (You might also want to research Obama’s use of drones before you paint him as the hero of the left)

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  20. Em

    Well your friend sounds like a colossal bore. Can’t believe you’ve listened to it for 5 years!

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    • Anonymous

      Yes being critical of our government, how boring!!!

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      • The Tip Master

        I would think the boring part was talking bloody politics all the time.

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  21. Elle

    I love, love LOVE being privileged enough to vote. I may despair at the parlous state of our political parties, but that is for another post.

    I thank the women who went before me who fought for my right to vote. I thank the servicemen & women who maintained my right to vote.

    If I hear you whinge and whine about having to vote I will rip you a new one in a heartbeat, and remind you of the men & women who are imprisoned, injured and killed because they are desperate to vote and live in a democracy. Cherish and guard this right!

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  22. Lucinda

    For those who disagree with compulsory voting, consider these figures:

    In the US there are over 200 million eligible voters. Yet only 60% or just over 120 million turn out to vote on average. Imagine the entire sectors and factions of society not being represented fairly by the government because they don’t turn out to vote. This is why the US has such strong division between classes.

    In Australia there are 13 million registered voters. If only 60% turned out to vote, our democratic process would be determined by only 8 million voters. It could open the doorway for more extremist parties to come into power and for the divide between classes and majority and minority groups to widen hugely. If voting wasn’t compulsory, those MANY people who tend to think about the kind of Australia they want to live in or what kind of party they want it in power, only because they have to, probably wouldn’t. The democratic process would be decided mostly by people have a vested interest in the policies because of their businesses or wealth.

    Compulsory voting prevents extremist parties from coming into power and encourages people to consider their vote even if they wish they didn’t have to. I consider voting a responsibility of being part of a peaceful democratic country, and the best way to ensure our country stays that way. I’d rather we didn’t turn into the USA!

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  23. Jean Paul Belmondo

    WHAT IF YOU CAN’T CHOOSE. YOU REALLY REALLY CAN’T CHOOSE. IS IT BETTER TO TOSS A COIN THAN IT IS TO REFRAIN. SURELY WE HAVE A DEMOCRATIC RIGHT NOT TO VOTE. I JUST DON’T WANT TO HURT THE KITTENS.

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  24. Emma

    Actually there is a way around voting in Australia. Move house and simply do not re enrol. I moved to the safest of safe seats. I am actually a Labor supporter. But in this case they really do not need me, and I cannot stand my local member (been in for 25 years and done zip zilch nothing for the electorate and there is no chance of him being unseated, even with my one piddly vote.). So the electoral office will send a letter or two to your old address, then track you down to your new one send a couple more, you answer none of them, voila, you are taken off the electoral role.
    I saw this as taking more of a stand than casting a vote that would really mean nothing anyway.

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    • AEC employee

      All good in theory but legislation has recently been passed to allow the AEC to automatically update your enrolment details with information you provide to the motor registry (or similar in your state) as well as Centrelink, Medicare, the Tax Office etc.

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      • Emma

        Well, when they catch me then the jig is up I guess…until then I will not be forced to vote. I believe it is wrong. Voting should be voluntary.

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  25. lucinda

    Love this article, Jamila.

    So many comments below are talking about which party is best, I wanted to share something that changed my thinking. It came from the movie (of all things) “Looking for Alibrandi” – in Australia, we don’t vote to keep the best party in, but to keep the worst party out.

    We may only have two real choices at election time, neither of which are perfect, but this system at least keeps out the parties that want to refuse education to women, or kill people of certain religions, or hundreds of other terrible things that people in power around the world do.

    I will gladly cast my vote at every election, knowing that there is no such thing as voting for the “right” person or party, but knowing that by voting I am keeping out the wrong ones.

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  26. Sparky

    Here’s a little story about why I changed my views and am now against sompulsory voting:

    A close friend abstains from voting due to her religious beliefs (Quaker) however she wasn’t affiliated with that religious organisation as an 18 year old and enrolled to vote at that time. She is put in a moral quandry every election; she must break the law and pay the fine not to vote or participates in voting to simply get her name checked off and deposits an empty ballot – a process she’s not supposed to participate in at all.

    She can’t get off the electoral roll (the Electoral Commission has said they acknowledge her conscientious objection but will not remove her from the roll) and is stuck in a system that is supposed to uphold her beliefs yet forces her to compromise them every election day.

    For the record I have never missed a voting opportunity, but I want the option to abstain. Legally.

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    • Tanya Riches

      I’m sorry, but that’s a cop out.

      A Quaker has the capacity to go to their member of parliament and complain.

      To compare that to the places in which democracy is a pipe dream is a travesty. To compare that to poverty is downright wrong.

      Tell your Quaker friend that we’re incredibly sorry that she has this problem (and I mean it), but there are plenty of biblical accounts of the early church being posed with ethical concerns and I’m certain she’ll live through it.

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      • Sparky

        Thanks for your comments, Tanya. I agree, she will (and does) live through it and she’s not the only one in this situation. Not sure if she has gone to her MP but I have seen her correspondence back and forth to the Electoral Commission. I’ll suggest the MP option to her.

        Not sure where I’ve compared it to poverty and places with a lack of democracy, though?

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      • c.fairy

        The worst that happens to someone who doesn’t vote is a small fine.

        My mother has never voted, for religious reasons, and has never had to pay the fine.

        It’s no big deal.

        Anyone with a legitimate reason for not turning up to have their name crossed off the roll will not have to pay the fine.

        Don’t know why your friend finds this such a burden, she’s not the only person or only religion whose members don’t vote for Earthly governments.

        Besides, no one can be made to cast a vote, only turning up to have your name crossed off is genuinely compulsory.

        There are billions of people in the world who do not get to vote, many of them would die for the right to live in a democratic, capitalist society.

        We are such a whingeing ungrateful lot.

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  27. Punkernickle

    THIS:

    “Of the 7 billion people living on this planet today – you are the one percent. You have no excuse not to make the most of what you’ve been given.”

    Kind of makes me feel like I’ve just been punched in the face – In a good way!

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  28. Kathy W

    I get your point, Jamila. I do, however, really have an issue with compulsory voting.

    We are one of only two democratic nations (the other is Switzerland) that forces its citizens to vote. Just wondering how we can call ourselves a democracy and do this.

    Compulsory voting in Australia only came to be in the 1920s. Prior to that it was optional – as it is in most other democracies. We were forced to vote as the turnout for elections was somewhat alarming and the government of the day decided to act.

    I have absolutely no issue with voting. In fact it is a wonderful priviledge. But being forced to do so is not democratic. I’d rather our voting system be optional and we get the government chosen by the people who actually care enough to get off their couches, leave their houses and cast their votes.

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    • Deb

      I don’t agree that compulsory voting is undemocratic. With every right we enjoy comes an equal responsibility – the right to drive comes with the responsibility to do so safely and so on. And the right to live in a democracy comes with the responsibility to participate in it. If you hate all the politicians in any election, you can protest in many ways (including in the ballot box) but we all still have to accept responsibility for our part in the democratic process.

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      • Sparky

        I agree that with the right to vote comes the responsibility to do so. What I disagree with is that you must break the law in order to express your desire not to participate.

        For those talking about ‘copping the fine’, it’s a little more than that. It’s willingly breaking the law, not unlike speeding – also punishable by a fine.

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        • Deb

          But not turning up, thereby breaking the law and being fined, isn’t the only way you can protest. You can refuse to mark the ballot paper, vote for a minor party, vote informally. None of those options are illegal. But you still have to make the conscious choice.

          And in elections where the major parties are on the nose with the electorate, the percentage of votes cast informally and for minor parties shoots up – thus telling the major parties that the electorate has lost faith in them.

          What I don’t agree with is people opting out of their responsibility by saying “none of them are perfect” and then going on to absolve themselves of responsibility until the next election by saying “well I didn’t vote, so it’s nothing to do with me”. That’s just a cop out.

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    • Jop

      Kath, a point I feel needs making – we don’t have compulsory voting…. you can write sweet FA on the ballot paper, what is compulsory is that you acknowledge that you could have voted. That is you need to turn up (or postal etc) and get your name ticked off, yes this does mean getting off the couch …. we have a democracy that all are a part of – even those who do not care who wins.

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      • Kathy W

        And therein lies the problem – turning up to have someone cross a line through your name with a pencil to avoid a fine and yet having no desire or interest in voting. What on earth is the purpose of that?

        We should be free to choose to participate in the democratic process. Not be forced by way of a fine to do so.

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  29. Jenny Green

    your friend is absolutely right.
    Obama isn’t the messiah – if he was in Aust politics he would fit more with the LNP than any progressive political party. And the guy is a serious warmonger – on a quieter and less public but no less intense scale than Bush. Perhaps your Saudi female friends would like to hear about how many weapons he sold to the regime that keeps them so crippled and restricted? and your Yemenite friends might know someone who lost family due to him numerous drone strikes? and let’s not go into his behaviour over Egypt.
    I despise the social pressure to toe the cheer-leading line. And I won’t do it. Your rebuttal is facile.

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    • Bradley

      At last…..a common sense comment about the President of the USA !

      The guy ain’t no angel despite the number of times I’m told to believe that he is. If we can form some kind of anti-cheer squad, consider me signed up. Obama is on par with Bush in the warmongering stakes but when you are a darling of the left, your foibles are fabulous.

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      • Diana The Huntress

        And you don’t even need to be a right-winger to see that. I’m a big old leftie and I’m still not part of the “all Obama does is gold” crew. Yes, I would definitely vote for him over a Republican, but he is not above reproach, and nor should he be.

        God. Did I just agree with Bradley on something? ;)

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        • Bradley

          This could be the start of a beautiful friendship, Diana The Huntress !

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  30. Lucinda

    I agree with the sentiment Jamilla. Though sometimes I think people have not been educated enough on government structure and processes, and reading, evaluating and critiquing policy. I myself am a bleeding heart leftie, and proudly admit it, and I appreciate my right to have a say, so therefore I make the effort to educate myself as much as I can on what each party/candidate stands for. However politics is heavy and complex and a lot of people don’t vote, or vote for parties or candidates based on the little they do know. The line between left and right is not as clear as it once was and a lot of people are scratching their heads come voting time. In my experience, most people do recognise that their right to vote is a privelege, they just find it difficult to look past all the shit slinging between parties and see the real policies behind them.

    In my opinion, I think this comes down to a real need to educate people in school to navigate political structure and think critically. I know I didn’t recieve much, if any, education on government and politics and I think it is showing in this generation. I am gobsmacked by the number of people that blame the prime minister for everything that gets passed through parliament, and seem to have no understanding that she doesn’t have the final say on everything, she is simply the face of the country. Many people just don’t understand how democracy works in this country. For me the crux of it is not that people don’t recognise the importance of having a say – most do – it is that many, many people run away from politics (or latch onto their parents views) because they don’t understand it.

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    • lucinda

      Well put. I have thought for a long time that political education needs to be improved. I get so frustrated hearing people blame Julia Gillard for the hospital system, or the state government for taxes increasing. So many people have no idea which arm of politics is responsible for different areas. Or even that they don’t get to vote for the PM – we vote for our local MP, not Julia or Malcolm!

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  31. Danica

    Not voting is not a political statement. It is in fact, the opposite. It does not tell Australia’s politicians that you are fed up with them – to them, it more likely demonstrates you are too busy/indifferent to even bother. At least go to the polls and write your feelings on the ballot. Anything is better than doing nothing.

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  32. Clair

    I got into an argument about this on a first date! Needless to say it didnt work out! I wish I could have said half as well as you! Bravo!

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    • Sk

      At least you didn’t wait five years and then publicly humiliate him for saying what many others are saying … probably not in Newtown, though. Is it even legal for Innercity Progressive Hipsters in their 20s to say what he did while laying in a deck chair, quaffing bubbly and solving the world’s problems? Someone arrest him! He dared to critise Obama and Gillard, the diabolical duo.

      Back in the day, in the western suburbs, it was pot, card carrying communists and wankers eating rice with one hand as they channelled some version of a stoned, Commie Ghandi.

      We’re all in our late 50s now. A good portion are dead from dope induced psychosis or depression. Most have become normal people who voted Labor and changed to Lib when we worked out how disastrous they are. The Commies are either arch capitalists or in the Greens or Unions.

      Yep, you’ve gotta love progressive kids changing the world.

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      • Guest

        ‘Most have become normal people who voted Labor and changed to Lib when we worked out how disastrous they are.’

        Or the other way round..

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      • vanessayoung

        Some of us never smoked pot, are not dead and would never, ever vote liberal but are, however, normal.

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    • jamilarizvi

      That sounds like ultimate first date hell Clair! x

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  33. stolichnaya

    I support compulsory voting as is but I also oppose this article.

    Obama’s reelection was fantastic, yeah, but the guy has his flaws. Serious, drone-striking flaws. Let’s not start hand-wringing because someone dares to criticise him for doing dodgy things.

    I don’t agree with the premise that we are ALL ridiculously privileged in this country. High quality education is not provided to everyone in this country. Access to decent benefits is opposed by both the major parties. Neither major party listens to the electorate on same sex marriage and unlike the US, we don’t have the opportunity to get this passed by referendum. There are whole demographics in this country that are treated as punching bags by the Coalition and the ALP. Let’s not assume Australian = privilege. No, we are not wracked by civil war. That does not mean there are not real problems right here.

    Similarly, comparing Australia with Syria etc is pointless. No, we don’t live under a dictatorial system. So what? The problems of other countries – as terrible as they are – have no bearing on whether my vote in this country is a useful and valuable tool of political expression. With both major parties honing in on a small number of marginal seats, lack of proportional representation or multi-member electorates and a whole array of preference deals most people never find out about, yeah, I’d say there are a few problems. Our Constitution doesn’t even prescribe an electoral system of one-vote-one-value.

    I also notice that this article doesn’t point out the option of third party voting, which is surprising to me. Unlike the USA, our system does allow for some third party representation (though definitely not enough) and to vote for a minor party is not to automatically give aid to the party you hate the most. Voting for a minor party like the Greens is an option, as is ranking your own preferences so you don’t just fall into line with whatever deals the parties have set up. However, the lack of proportional representation – giving us a system in which the Greens can get ~11% of the popular vote yet only one seat in the HOR – is really problematic.

    I support compulsory voting because, inter alia, it is a means of preventing our system from reaching the dizzyingly extremist heights of the USA’s get-out-the-vote campaigns but I can completely understand the mindset of someone who prefers to take the fine or vote informally. I find that I can deal with voting only because I have a third party option that matches my principles, and I can rank my preferences individually after that. People who genuinely don’t see a party who reflects their views – and it is only a fairly small number – are justified in refusing to make a choice.

    Yeah, the OP’s friend sounds obnoxious from the way she’s written, but I think that publicly posting a take-down that’s based on not much more than “other people have it worse, so shut up”, without ever really considering the nuts and bolts of the Australian system and why it might need some retooling is not a great move either.

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    • Anonymous

      Stolichnaya, I don’t normally indulge in you this early, but I both like the way you think and I like the way that you drink.

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    • zabie

      Great comment.

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  34. Cold

    Sing it, sister.

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  35. Ian

    Well, let me agree with your progressive friend.

    Julia is not a real progressive. The Labor Party is a mess. Why doesn’t this progressive government recognise same sex unions? Offer a welcome to asylum seekers? De-criminalise marijuana? Restore the balance in school funding? Abolish the Senate? Promote a republic? Increase Newstart allowance? Increase foreign aid to 0.5% of GDP? The other side will never do these things.

    Perhaps your friend has spent fruitless Sunday mornings at sub-branch meetings getting nowhere. Perhaps they’ve spent countless Saturdays handing out how-to-vote cards, or scrutineer-ing after the polls closed. They have a right to be aggrieved.

    And your friend isn’t dodging it, they’re not turning up to have their name marked off the roll, they are going to protest by copping the fine.

    As for you. Facing tests? Civil war? Give me a break. Australians have no history of rioting, and are not about to start. Once in history should the nation have ground to a halt, and that was November 12, 1975 (the day after the Dismissal) – it didn’t, and even the union leader of the time (some bloke called Hawke) told everyone to go to work. Perhaps some Australian social history lessons for you Jamila ?

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    • Anonymous

      They can’t afford to offer a welcome to asylum seekers. The illegal arrivals have already cost over 4 billion dollars. There’s no money or room for genuine asylum seekers and there won’t be under the Government she leads.

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    • jamilarizvi

      Hi Ian,

      Appreciate the history lesson. Cheers. But I feel like bringing up that moment in time only further proves my point. That we are a remarkably stable democracy – even in the most difficult, complex and uncertain of times.

      And I do think comparisons with the rest of the world are important, they serve as a reminder of what we HAVE. No, the situation in Syria might have no bearing on the way you vote in an Australian election and I accept that. But it should make you feel how lucky you are to even have that right, to express your sentiments towards Labor and other parties etc.

      Jamila

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  36. MaggieK

    I understand where you’re coming from but I don’t like our voting system. To make it compulsory is ridiculous. I’m glad I have the right to vote but I should also have the right not to vote. I’m sure there are many people out there who have no idea about their local politicians and probably just write random numbers because they’re expected to do something in that polling booth. Others may choose a party based simply on who their parents vote for. Others may vote for other irrelevant reasons such as “I’d like to see a female PM”.
    I also don’t think you can compare Australia to countries with conflict. The role of women is different in other countries and although I think the mistreatment of women is wrong, I don’t think my right to vote is what is preventing me from having the same fate.

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  37. Ladybug

    Hear, hear Jamila!

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  38. aloha

    If we’re ‘forced’ to vote do we have true democracy? Agree with you argument jamila though

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    • Rebecca

      We’re not forced to vote. You can pay a small fine instead.

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      • Anonymous

        Oh that’s okay is it Beccas? ?

        What’s a financial penalty got to do with it ?

        There’s no allocating that revenue to anything relevant, nor is there any tie in with the voter.

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      • stolichnaya

        You don’t even have to pay the fine. Our system of compulsory voting requires you to attend a polling place on election day and have your name marked off but does not require an actual vote. You don’t have to mark the ballot papers at all and if you’re feeling particularly exhibitionist you can loudly refuse to take them from the Polling Official and storm right out. Rude but occasionally entertaining. So no, we’re definitely not forced to vote.

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        • Danica

          Forced to vote? Oh dear, here is a first world problem!!! Have to agree with Jamilia.

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    • zabie

      A democracy is a political system where the government is elected by the people. Whether voting is compulsory or optional has no bearing whatsoever on how democratic it is.

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  39. Faybian

    Good article. I do get aggravated if I hear people talking about donkey voting/not voting and have had a number of heated discussions. I’ve also had heated discussions with my own mother (and others) about compulsory voting. I’m ok with it and have ensured my own kids enrolled to vote by 18.
    I remember that politics and religion used to be one of the socially taboo subjects, but now it seems they’re not and you can see why.

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  40. Erin

    I don’t understand the superior attitude about sitting by quietly. If you didn’t like what your friend was saying, then you should have said something to your friend. Passive aggressively getting back at her by writing a piece about her is not how grown ups solve their differences. Maybe if you expressed yourself every once in a while, you wouldn’t feel so bitter towards her. Maybe the reason you feel this way has nothing to do with her and everything to do with you.

    It’s it kind of ironic to address privilege from a completely privileged point of view and in a very privileged medium.

    I don’t care what your political opinions are. This article is not really about that anyway. It is about your friend doing something you don’t like and you finding a way to get your own back.

    So not impressed by this kind of privileged tripe.

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    • Anonymous

      I agree with you Erin. If somebody is bothering you that much, ark up and say something to their face! I would. Who cares if they don’t like it, frankly, if they’re that outspoken they should expect some opposition.
      BTW if anyone spoke ill of Obama, I’d give ‘em what for without hesitation, he’s my boy!

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      • Jil

        You don’t even need to get to the point of an argument. Be assertive without being agressive. State your point of view and don’t be drawn into some long-winded discussion if there is no give and take in the conversation. Or better yet, tell them that you don’t want to talk about politics. You can agree to disagree and still be friends.

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    • zabie

      Completely agree and I made the same point above before reading all the comments. The whole article reads like a big bitching session and reminds me of how people acted in high school. You’d tell your friend something, then find out later that they’ve been laughing/complaining about you for it behind your back, when at the time they either agreed with you or said nothing! It’s horrible. Just be upfront if you disagree with someone instead of so passive aggressive about it. It’s not about politeness, you can disagree with someone politely. All this time, this person has been spouting views that infuriate you and you said nothing, until finally so much frustration and anger builds up in you that you blow off at them and rant about them online. I’m sorry if this comes across as very critical but I really dislike this kind of behavior and I can’t believe people in the comments are commending you for how you acted.

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  41. Amy

    I just dont get people who dont want to have a say? I dont get the whingy people that gloat over not voting….gloat away,but dont whine when the people you didnt vote for do something you dont like! We have a voice and we get to have a say! Speak up if youve exercised the right, pipe down if you didnt.

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    • Anonymous

      The fact that you don’t get it, doesn’t make their decision any less valid.

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  42. Lily

    How strange that the writer seems to think nobody is allowed to criticise Obama. Of course I’m glad Romney didn’t win, but that does not mean Obama is above criticism. It is progressive to encourage open debate, not silence people such as the writer’s friend for speaking openly and critising the leader of the US.

    Also, in Australia nobody legally must vote. To avoid the fine you must get your name marked off, but you do not have to write anything on the forms. If you wish, you don’t have to vote.

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    • zabie

      Good point! Open political debate is indeed one of the core values of modern democracy. How about celebrating your freedom to have a different opinion than your friend? Instead of sitting by passive-aggressively for 5 years and then going on a public rant about what a “dick” they are, for daring to have views different to your own!

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  43. Adam

    We are all an evolutionary process and democracy is also transitory. We’ll have something better in 100 years. I’ll be dead.

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  44. Jackie

    How did anyone who wasn’t a card carrying member of the Labor/Green Party get into Newtown?

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  45. somebody's miss

    In my family we have a saying ‘if you don’t vote you don’t get to whinge’. Voting is not a right, it’s a responsibility. It’s not optional and nor should it be. And while I respect your point of view Jamila, did you challenge your friend IN the pub? Because, you have raised such valid points here that I feel you need to raise directly with your mate…

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    • Lorren

      I follow tge same mantra – if you didn’t voice your opinion at the polls, you don’t get whinge about who was elected.

      And this is why I’m for compulsory voting.

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  46. Sparky

    This article rankles with me and here’s why:

    I oppose compulsory voting. It should be a right and a privilege, not something we are compelled by law to do. And if your friend is wanting to not vote, I endorse her right (or lack thereof, as it is currently) to do so.

    Please leave voting for those who care enough to WANT to participate.

    PS: I am in a seat that is so safe that last Federal election I never saw a leaflet, ad or image of my local member. I still voted (for another candidate) because I care enough to do so.

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  47. Chris

    Jamila, you are one gorgeous girl

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    • Bradley

      Might I be so forward as to ask what the heck that has to do with the subject of not exercising their right and privilege to vote ?

      I realise that some may see this as a silly question, but I felt that it needed to be raised.

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  48. Jock

    This article is a big ol’ appeal to emotion fallacy x 1000, on loop.

    I fully believe that we should all vote, not just because it’s illegal not to but that way we’re all had our say and played our part in the process. I agree with you on that front, Jamila. i can’t stand hearing from mates in the US who moan about the state of their nation and then refuse to vote.

    However, the hyperbole in this article is a bit much, honestly. Not voting is an insult to Saudi Arabian women, victims of Assad’s regime, etc? Please, let’s not get carried away with arbitrary guilt trips. A lot of people will tune out from your (entirely valid) main point about the importance of voting.

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  49. Guest

    Last election I passed a gaggle of young lady-girls giggling their way into the school, asking each other who they were voting for because they weren’t even sure who was standing (!).

    Things like this do make me wonder why people should be forced to vote who have no interest in politics or knowledge of the candidates, just because they ‘can’. As for the better informed people referred to in your post – I really have no problem with them making a personal protest by not voting if they feel strongly enough to forfeit their privilege.

    We are definitely lucky to have the right to vote, but I’m not sure at which point that ‘right’ has to become more important than the ‘right not to’ for equally valid reasons.

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  50. Laura

    Oh snap. Sharing this article far and wide – well done.

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