For more than 10 years, Nicole Kidman has bitten her tongue when accused of being a rotten mother because she ‘abandoned’ her kids Isaballa and Conner. But now, it seems, the truth may be coming to light.
There are news reports today that Nicole didn’t walk away from the children she adopted with Tom Cruise but instead was deliberately cut out of her children’s lives by Tom and the Church of Scientology?
News.com.au reports:
“Katie Holmes wouldn’t want to be holding her breath waiting for a show of sisterly support from Nicole Kidman following her split from Tom Cruise.
While Oscar-winning actress Kidman may feel some empathy for the woman who replaced her in the matrimonial bed in 2006, Kidman has never publicly challenged or defied Cruise or his Scientology sect. Not during the couple’s 10-year marriage and not after it ended in 2001.
Not even, remarkably enough, when Cruise took primary custody of the children, in effect removing her from their lives and allowing them to be raised in a mysterious sect which recognises Cruise as, if not one of its leaders, its most prominent salesman and advocate.
Mamamia previously ran a post by Women’s Weekly Associate Editor Bryce Corbett about why Nicole Kidman was one of only a few celebrities who inspire vitriol from other women.
One of the overwhelming reasons why from commenters was her relationship with her two eldest children – 19-year-old Isabella and 17-year-old Connor – whom she adopted with her first husband, Tom Cruise.
In his post for Mamamia, Bryce wrote:
“She’s abandoned her children!” the armchair experts cry. But what do we really know about the relationship Nicole has with Isabella and Connor? Or the post-divorce agreement she has with Tom, for that matter? What do we know about the access Nicole has to her own children, the forces that are at play and the pain it may be causing her?
During our interview, I asked Nicole about her eldest children and she spoke frankly about them, her love for them and why she resolutely refuses to discuss their lives in public.
And this seems to be part of the problem. Because she refuses to divulge the particulars of her private life, and because the celebrity-infused culture in which we live has conditioned us to believe every famous person is contractually-obliged to share every detail about their life whenever we demand it, we get annoyed. And into the vacuum left by Nicole’s silence we pour our own fanciful theories.
Nicole Kidman, through the years:
Nicole Kidman with Paperboy co-stars Zac Efron and Matthew McConaughey
Nicole Kidman has attracted a lot of criticism over the years, does reading this make you feel more sympathetic toward her? Do you think that Nicole Kidman may have been prevented from seeing her adopted children? What do you think the future holds for Suri Cruise and custody arrangements between Tom and Katie Holmes?
140 Comments so far
The interview she did on 60 Minutes a while back seemed quite telling. It was like she knew she was damned if she spoke out, damned if she didn’t, so why bother with the crap that goes with speaking out….she actually made the comment: “It will all come out one day and then people will understand what happened and why I have been the way I have” (or to that effect)
Maybe Katie will be the one who wants the publicity and will be happy to speak up about it all…or maybe we all have to wait til someone dies!
loading...
Hi, I have never commented on this site before, but am a regular reader. I have noticed occassionally that I have access to edit or delete some of the comments on different articles. It may be something to look into (security etc)?
loading...
I’m amazed at the number of people who “know” what went on between Nicole and Tom. The simple facts is that only Tom and Nicole know what happened, and what the terms of the divorce were. There may have been a gag order, but either way I don’t think Nicole has any need or obligation to tell the public about a private matter.
It’s simple, those who know, don’t tell and those who tell, don’t know.
loading...
Didn’t Isabella do an interview a little while back whereby she said that she and her mother had a good relationship? Anyway really what right do any of us have to judge Nicole. Nobody but her Tom (and each army of lawyers) know what happened. Having said that perhaps Katie is fighting for full custody because she knows what Tom did to Nic’s kids, and could see the writing in the wall!
loading...
I’m skeptical about that interview. There were no pictures, only paparazzi shots and who did she give the interview to? And I immediately turn off when I read ‘A friend said…’ It was also very short. I imagine an interview with Isabella Cruise would take up a few more pages.
loading...
Not a Nicole lover either. Definately a hater of overbearing pork chops who love nothing better than telling others where they went wrong and how the should be living their lives.
loading...
And yet there you are…doing exactly that
loading...
Not a Nicole Lover, just an open- minded compassionate gal
loading...
How can you be so sure “she didn’t fight” for them? Do you know anything about her besides what the media has fed you?
loading...
were you present during their divorce, did she confide in you? have you even met Kidman or Cruise? if not how could you possibly know what she did or did not do when neither Kidman or Cruise comment publicly.
loading...
Sydgel – curious to know how you know so much about Nicole’s situation? Details please.
loading...
Wow.
loading...
While I admire Nicole’s dignified silence, which may or may not be part of a divorce contract I can’t get past the contract with Tom rumors which is why I don’t feel that sorry for either of them, but I really liked Keith on the voice so I can’t decide if Nicole is cold or shy and private,
loading...
I’ve never particularly liked Nicole, I think that comes from living around the corner from her when I was in High School and watching her walk around with her nose so far up her arse cause she was in BMX Bandits. But now I feel sorry for what she went through with Tom. I don’t believe that any of it would have been easy, but I do believe they would go to the extreme of turning the kids against her. No one deserves to be treated like that.
loading...
Hey guys, can I interrupt this dinner party to remind you of our rules? I don’t think Nicole’s going to be reading, but still – try to keep it nice. Gracias.
loading...
Apparently these rules ONLY apply if you are supportive of Nicole, if you are not then its open season …from the high moral ground
loading...
No…, there have been plenty of people post their dislike/disapproval of Nicole, but your comment earlier was just flat out nasty and if i had the misfortune of being at a dinner table with you I would have told you so. Is this your opinion of every woman who uses a surrogate? Without knowing the person and with no ackground knowledge do you you believe that mother who use a surrogate don’t want to inconvenience their womb? I have a girlfriend who used a surrogate, but she had no womb, now that was an inconvenience.
loading...
“to gutless”?
loading...
You didn’t say whether your opinion of inconvenienced wombs was for all women?
You know there are people out there in this judgemental world who think if you cant have a child naturally (without ivf, surrogates etc) that it just isn’t supposed to happen. How would you like to be judged for using IVF?
Personally I am thankful for the steps forward medicine has made which has made it possible for so many women to become mothers that might not have otherwise been able to.
I really dont get how someone can be so narky about a woman they dont know, who has done them no harm personally. I can only suggest taking a step and looking at your own life and trying to figure out where this misplaced nastiness comes from. I hope you can find a happier place sara h
loading...
If you’ve ever seen or read an interview of Nicole Kidman’s you’d know that adoption was after SEVERAL miscarriages. Sara h, surely you should know better than most that if you’re desperate for a baby you try other means of getting one. As for her natural pregnancy, she talked about it on Oprah as being a shock as she had never been able to carry a baby to full term. I’m sure they tried their luck again before using the surrogate. Your comment was bloody ridiculous and insensitive, especially if you are who you say you are. As for using her money for good, she has been the biggest bank roller for the Tropfest film festival since it started which gives normal people an opportunity at making films and has launched several film making and acting careers. Her donations are up in the millions and she doesn’t advertise the fact which I guess is why you didn’t know about it. Because she’s not donating you money to talk shite on an online blog doesn’t mean she’s doing nothing.
loading...
Gold. Agreed.
loading...
I thought you were! No that’s right you have followed them for years…there’s laws against that
loading...
Ok. I have followed these four closely over the years so clearly that makes me the authority. Ha! When Tom and Nicole divorced, they had joint custody of the children and this was certainly reflected in the media. There were pictures of the children with both of them and Nicole spoke about them often during interviews. What I suspect is that as the kids got older they showed a preference to spend more time with Tom aka crazed circus dwarf (gold!) and Nicole accepted that. I recall one interview when she said that LA has much more pull for teenage kids. The years went on, she saw them less and less but who knows maybe they spoke very often, she met Keith, married, had two more children and here we are. She did also comment after Sunday was born that she felt healed. I always took that to be in relation to not being the full time fully present mum she wanted to be to her first daughter.
loading...
I have always admired Nicole. She seems to carry herself with such grace. Given the overwhelming evidence of the COS’s disonnection policy with family members it seems Nicole is hoping as adults her children will see through the smoke and mirrors.
Go Katie!
How awesome is Keith?
loading...
remember at the start of TomKat’s union there was chants everywhere – save Kate
save Kate – seems like we weren’t wrong after all…
i still find it odd that Nicole never spoke publically about this – was she hushed? is she so afraid of the cult, sorry church of scientology…?? guess sometimes not speaking says a lot too….
ember
loading...
Unless you have personally dealt with a cult such as Scientology , I don’t think any of us have any idea what Nicole ,and now Katie , are having to deal with.
I personally would think it would be frightening.
loading...
Frightening? Ok, so it’s frightening but so what?! NIcole was and is not some single woman living in housing commission with no family for support.
Even if that was the case I would still fight and fight hard against my ex, scientology, whatever for my children. She clearly did not do that.
In life you can not back down for what is important. Not for anything.
loading...
Well, clearly, because if she had you’d know all the details, right?
loading...
Like I said, we have no idea what they’re dealing with. You have no idea either.
loading...
Ok well Mumof4, what woudl you do? Would’t you fight the fight of your life?!
loading...
I would fight for my kids obviously, just like I think Nicole would of. Dealing with cults are another matter altogether. That, I think, is where none of us have any idea the intimidation, etc she would of experienced , and now Katie will be facing.
loading...
Nicole is one lucky woman to be free of that couch-jumping weirdo. I’m so glad she found love and happiness with Keith Urban, and together they’re blessed with Sunday Rose and Faith Margaret. A belated Happy Birthday to Sunday Rose, who just turned 4 on July 7.
loading...
In a word, yes, I think we judge Nicole Kidman way too quickly. All we have to go on is conjecture, rumour and stuff mags print about any of them. Even interviews with celebrities don’t give the full story and they shouldn’t have to.
I wish Katie Holmes luck with her custody arrangements in the divorce with Tom and hope someday Nicole’s older children appreciate her a bit more one day. I think Tom cruise makes his own luck.
loading...
A high-ranking ex-Scientologist, Marty Rathbun, was interviewed by the Hollywood Reporter. He confirmed that Nicole got joint custody of Bella and Connor as part of the divorce settlement. Then … “the organization, including all the staff members who work in Cruise’s Los Angeles home, began to quietly turn the kids against Kidman. Rathbun says he witnessed Tommy Davis, head of the church’s Celebrity Centre and the son of actress Anne Archer, feeding Isabella and Connor Cruise false information about their mother so as to turn them against her.
“Tommy told them over and over again their mother was a sociopath, and after a while they believed him,” Rathbun says. “They had daily sessions with Tommy. I was there. I saw it.” Source: http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tom-cruise-katie-holmes-divorce-scientology-344687?page=4
loading...
that is scary. As much as I don’t really like NK that man is a complete nutcase. What a horrible thing to do to children, no wonder KH wants full custody. I say RUN KATIE RUN!!!!
loading...
I read this article yesterday and thought it was awful how it described Nicole’s attempts to gain custody as ‘feeble’. How on earth does the journalist know what transpired or how hard Nicole fought for custody. It’s bad enough that her children were (apparently) brainwashed against her and she was virtually estranged from them – I doubt it was her choice! Also, at this point, I just feeling like cheering ‘go Katie!’ – and to Tom, karma’s a bitch …
loading...
Agree with that. I found that word really jarred.
loading...
It’s easy to gain access to court records. Hence the apt use of the word feeble.
loading...
I’m sure Nicole had fought for her children just as hard as Katie is fighting for Suri’s custody now. Unfortunately, she fought and lost. Let’s just hope that Katie will win this time. I guess the only difference is that Nicole never exposes her personal life for public consumption. Unlike Katie who seems to be using the media to her advantage. I thought they wanted to settle this divorce as private as possible, how come she is always out in the street with Suri? To get swarmed by the paparazzi?
loading...
I think it’s called living in New York. Celebrities roam free in the city (with or without their children) and yes the paparazzi takes their pics. They can’t live in 4 walls and become prisoners even if they are going through a divorce.
loading...
*Flail*
*She’s Doing it wrong!*
*Won’t someone please think of the children*
Lols… The reality is that whilst we all like to criticize.. No one knows what goes on in a relationship…
That’s my 2c. Now, carry on *flailing*
*Gets Popcorn*
loading...
You like your popcorn don’t you….
loading...
Yes, we judge people too quickly, especially when we base everything on tabloid gossip. Nicole’s been condemned for ‘lies’ – the ones we think she’s told – and for keeping her private life private. How quick we are to judge women for not reacting how we think they should or how we think we would act in the same situation. Seriously!
Do we ever truly know what goes on behind closed doors?
loading...
Whichever way you look at it, Tom Cruise has caused the significant women in his life an awful lot of grief and that is a tragedy for them.
loading...
I have never Not felt sympathy for Nicole. We don’t know what went on & we don’t know what contact she has with her adopted children. However I think most of us can see that Tom is a controlling freak that has a very financial church behind him. I wish Nicole & Katie luck and hope that they can be with their children without interfierence
loading...
I love Nicole, always have and always will. I feel that given that she went through a loss of a baby in her womb at the same time her life fell down around her that she probably didn’t make the best choices in the divorce and Tom played upon that.
I believe Katie has learnt from those before her and knows the dirty tricks Tom plays and I think she will be the one to beat him at his own game
loading...
Do I feel sympathy for Nicole? Hell no!
They are her children & like Katie is now, she should have done more to protect them.
I’m even more critical of Nicole now after reading this article.
loading...
Well she’ll just have to learn to live with your disappointment, won’t she?
loading...
Heh.
loading...
If she was a poor woman who escaped the Exclusive Bretheren cult or some other cult and couldn’t get her kids out, we’d be sympathetic. I believe Nicole’s situation to be no different from all the women in the world who lose their kids to psychoitc ex-husbands and their families who are in the thrall of some fanatic religion.
loading...
I think she made a choice. Her choice was between her career or her children. He could have given or taken either. Nicole is no saint, let’s face it she had her second child via surgate rather than inconvienance her own womb.
loading...
OMG Sara H, that is so mean to say she inconvenienced her own womb? Who are you to judge her reasons why?
loading...
The question was asked. I answered and who are YOU to judge my reply? All the replies are as subjective as the article itself. I can’t think of any reason other than her own selfishness that a mother just two years after giving birth would choose to have a child via another
loading...
“inconvenienced her womb”?
That’s a new low, Sara H. Nicole lost a previous pregnancy, so unless you’re her Dr, you can’t possibly know that she wasn’t having fertility problems again and hence, used a surrogate.
loading...
And unless YOU are her doctor you can’t possibly claim to know her motives are pure….perhaps her fertility issues are as true as her ” ivenot had plastic surgery” claims. Perhaps they are as sulptured as her current face
loading...
Are you her doctor, Sara h? You seem to think you have facts on the case.
loading...
That’s the most twisted logic I’ve heard in a long time. She’s selfish for wanting another child through a surrogate? You know, for a poster who has admitted to having her own fertility issues you’re demonstrating a breathtaking lack of compassion for someone in the same position.
Must be nice living on Perfect St.
loading...
Hi Everyone
Please remember our dinner party rules … let’s not start getting personal attacking each other.
This comment isn’t directed at any one person (just so you know).
loading...
Hi Bec, I would have been really disappointed if people hadn’t taken offence to Sarah H’s comment. I feel perfectly comfortable judging her for this comment, on this occastion.
loading...
“I can’t think of any reason other than her own selfishness that a mother just two years after giving birth would choose to have a child via another”
Here is a possible reason for you. Just because you have one natural pregnancy doesn’t always mean you can fall pregnant again. I had one naturally conceived child. Then I had 6 years of IVF, with 10 miscarriages. Obviously your own experience of IVF doesn’t make you an expert on every possible situation. Your comment is the nastiest and most uninformed thing I have ever read on this website.
loading...
Actually I hardly think Nicole will even glance at this…yet you all think it’s ok to question my struggles and suffering when you I know I have read the response ….. I don’t like Nicole , I think she is a liar and is selfish, have you ever heard of how she helps others with her millions? No! Will she read this? No…take a long hard look at yourselves
loading...
Nicole is a very private person, no you do not hear of how she helps others, but this does not mean she doesn’t – it only means that like most aspects of her life she chooses not to share with the public. Maybe she doesn’t donate, but you really don’t know, but yet again are quick to jump to a conclusion and judge her based on your conclusion.
loading...
You seem very angry.
Firstly, I didn’t realise that celebrities had to a) give large sums of money to charity and b) tell the general public that they’ve done it so we can either praise them for being good or criticise them for showing off about it.
I think if anyone needs to have a look at themselves it’s you. You’re posting vitriol about a woman you’ve never met, never spoken to but you’ve judged her and found her wanting.
Posters have taken a hard line with your posts because you tell us you’ve suffered infertility problems but you demonstrate no compassion or understanding for someone else in the same position. It’s pretty cold to judge Nicole the way you have just because you don’t like her. You can not like someone but have empathy for them.
What was it that other poster said about living with disappointment?
loading...
Nothing worse than a hypocrit ” I feel perfectly comfortably” in hater her look at her comment….it is different than the way I think there for I have the moral high ground………I think not…
loading...
I JUST spent 8 month almost in bed every day with my pregnancy! I couldnt work or walk, or hardly cuddle my son, i was/still am in serious pain, and sickness was not very fun either! I want more children…and a surrogate, would seriously be a wonderful thing if it was available! U know nothing of why she chose surrogacy, u dont know what her previous pregnancy was like, or if she has health issue or whatever the reason is, it doesnt matter.. I have read that she has had many issues with pregnancy including loss, so I can imagine after so much heart ache and finally carrying to term, she would want to do anything to have a healthy baby! Judging people doesnt point out their flaws, it only shows us yours!
loading...
Sara H, that comment is disgraceful and so offensive. You obviously have *no* idea what you are talking about.
loading...
Having gone through years of ivf for my children I say what I did from knowledge of the desire to carry a child to term, to nurture it within your body and to give birth. Face it like it or not Nicole has a history of advoiding this, first with Tom via adoption and presently via a hire a womb
loading...
I highly doubt you went through IVF. If you did, you would not be making such insensitive remarks. I’m sure YOU would not appreciate people judging you going through the IVF route as “inconveniencing your womb”, unless that’s exactly what you intended.
loading...
Morning injections are nothing compared to the one that absolutely MUST BE EXACTLY on time …if you get that wrong they will go in and find absolutely nothing and you will wake in recovery with no number on your hand and wonder perhaps I rubbed it off, surely after all there will be some eggs. Then you get your number 6 what only 6 after all those injections daily and that PERFECTLY TIMED one straight into the stomach. Then you wait while they are fertilized , 4 only four then you wait or grading then transfer then pregnancy test if lucky then hold your breathe and wait for the manic 12 weeks…don’t pee cause if you do you might loose your chance and it may be your last….THAT REAL ENOUGH FOR YOU?
loading...
I am sorry you went through that, I have been through it too, as have many other women. However, sadly and despite this you still have no compassion for someone who has infertility and worse still, must face it in the public eye.
loading...
sci alerts out of line? interesting……
loading...
I don’t believe you have ever had fertilty issues! If you had you would know there are many issues that women can face & just because she gave birth to 1 child does not mean there were not risks to her or her baby. Those risks might of been too great to take a second time.
loading...
Are your not?
loading...
I just wanted to say I love your name choice!
loading...
Never been pi$$ed off enough to reply.
Obviously you’ve never had fertility issues
loading...
Again subjective on your behalf as my children are ivf. Also a permanent foster whom I would fight tooth and nail for.
loading...
Seriously Sara, come on now. She had one ectopic pregnancy that we know of and then had her first child at 41. Faith was born when she was 43 via a surrogate and is biologically hers and Keith’s. How do you know that that they didn’t try IVF this time or that she can even physically carry children any more? We don’t know her entire gynaecological history – nor should we. It seems people can come up with a lot of things to nitpick Nicole about but this is ridiculous.
loading...
I think the question was what do we think of Nicole and I answered, wether or not you agree is beside the point it’s what I think on the situation given the experience I have had with infertility …..to answer Mia question why is it we feel so strong against her, those that do any way, it’s the hidden, the obscured the lies that surround her make her distasteful because simply you can’t believe a word she utters. As someone else pointed out the paps have ashot of everything under the sun ….yet NOTHING on Nicole and her adopted children and now Katie is showing the world that you can in fact beat that man and keep it all…..poor little girl Katie that’s the way she has always been perceived yet woman Nicole………..
loading...
Haters be hatin’!
loading...
To me that’s the same as putting two women in an abusive relationship with the same man and then us judging how both of the women cope with the situation. We don’t know the personalities of Katie and Nicole other than carefully chosen snippets they make public to the media. We also don’t know the details of their relationships behind closed doors other than what we try to surmise from gossip. And as Denise pointed out below – the world is very different today with social media than it was when Nicole and Tom divorced 11 years ago. That stuff didn’t even exist back then. Tom’s lawyer has already come out and said that Katie is using the media to her advantage… maybe she is, maybe she isn’t but either way Nicole wouldn’t have had the same leverage back then.
I’m not a Nicole fangirl. I can take her or leave her, don’t go out of my way to watch her movies, definitely don’t believe the “I didn’t have plastic surgery” thing. But I don’t think having a go at a 43 yo woman for using a surrogate – one who has already lost at least one pregnancy that we’re aware of and carried another to term (which would’ve been a high risk pregnancy by anyone’s standards) – is the right thing to do. Especially when we don’t and probably will never know why they used a surrogate at all.
loading...
“Nothing on Nicole and the adopted children?” Do some fact-check, please. There were many photos of Bella and Conor with their mum in 2006 at the time of her wedding to Keith, in 2007 while she was filming ‘Australia’, and also at the 2007 Kids’ Choice Awards, not to mention the photos of them watching the Lakers basketball. And Bella was with her mum when she won the Oscar Awards.
loading...
I think this comment is really harsh.
She was quite ‘old’ in reproductive terms and so it was no surprise to me that she used a surrogate. I’m the same age and would have done the same if it was a bit easier to do so in Australia. Instead I have only one child, my miracle daughter.
loading...
And you are her personal Doctor are you?
loading...
What a bitch of a comment, do yo know if she even still has a womb?
loading...
I actually have serious doubts she carried the first one either. She went into birth in the middle of the night, pops out a baby and looks exactly the same after??? She never looked pregnant except the bump (her face and body did not change at all) I’m sure some pretty strange things happen in Hollywood and the fact that she kept calling the surrogate mother for her next baby a “carrier” made me think she felt threatened by the fact that she didn’t/couldn’t carry the baby. Also the fact is at her age the chances of her being able to have that first baby naturally or use her own egg unless it was frozen are very very slim. Hollywood should stop peddling the belief that you can have babies after 40 easily and come clean that most of those babies aren’t even genetically theirs.
loading...
My friend didn’t show any of her pregnancy in her face. It looked the same the day before as it did the day after. I must remember to telephone her & tell her she tricked me into believing she was actually pregnant.
loading...
sure Anna maybe she did have the baby I’m not saying this is fact its just my opinion and I was just putting it out there. Don’t feel the need to tell me all about your friends as I’m sure there are exceptions to everything and no need for sarcasm.
loading...
Well what was the point in you putting it out there if you didn’t think someone was going to comment on it?
I used the example of my friend to show that not all pregnant women show it in their faces. I’m sorry you didn’t like the story. Oops, there goes that sarcasm again..
loading...
I am happy for you to reply to my comment and actually I am sorry I should not have said that about not wanting to know about your friend because yes that is a justified response to my comment. Just sick of the nastiness and sarcasm that seems to go with replies on here. I am happy to hear other peoples opinions but just don’t feel like it needs to be done in the way you commented.
loading...
AJ, she’s tall and skinny, never looked that big anyway and probably didn’t put on any weight herself. I was 5 kilos lighter after my 3rd and 4th pregnancies in my mid 30s and I’m built the same way.
A lot of women actually go into labour in the middle of the night, no mystery.
I don’t think anyone really thought she’d had her baby easily. I’m sure I saw snaps of her going in or out a fertility clinic. For all we know she had IVF.Hollywood loves to peddle the idea that over 40 women can have babies easily and bounce back quickly (never mind the hours of exercise each day). It’s not right, but it doesn’t mean that she was never even pregnant.
loading...
Hi everyone,
I know there are reminders elsewhere but let’s try and keep this respectful. Obviously Nicole isn’t reading the comments but let’s imagine she is. I think there is a really worthwhile conversation here about how we treat women who are in the public eye and why some seem to inspire dislike more than others. But I do think that’s a discussion we can have while being fair to Nicole and each other. This isn’t directed at any one poster – just responding to the end of thread.
Thanks, Jamila (Managing Ed)
loading...
i would have thought it was more the case of getting too old to safely carry again, or infertility problems that have plagued her throughout her life.
loading...
Nicole has mentioned quite a few times that she has had infertility issues, especially around the time she was filming the movie Australia. Given her age it is completely natural that she would have had fertility issues falling pregnant with her second child. There were also numerous ‘rumours’ about fertility being a problem back when she and Tom adopted. I think it is highly judgemental and narrow minded of you to assume she did not want to inconvenience her womb!! Not only was she unable to carry her own baby, but she has to put up with haters who assume the worst. Having read below that you suffered infertility I am even more puzzled by your harsh comments.
loading...
Yes I’m sure she found the whole thing a big”inconvienance” – because actually raising a child and being a mother is so easy. She has made the ultimate sacrifice in devoting her life to two little girls who she was obviously desperate for. I constantly ask myself why women are so horrible to one another when we are all bearing similar burdens. I still have no idea.
loading...
I’ve always felt sorry for Nicole! More so while she was actually married to Tom! What a weirdo that man is and hiding many, many skeletons too..But I believe karma rewarded Nicole – married to spunky and so sweet Keith with two beautiful kids now and karma will bite Tom where he deserves, his reputation and access to Suri. Good on Katie,who would have thought….
loading...
But do you really think she didn’t have an idea of what a nutter he is?! She was with him for 10 years!
As has so clearly been proven over the years, especially the last few, the man has serious issues. Just watch the interviews regarding the Brooke Shields issue and his testimonial on scientology. It’s so glaringly obvious that he is not normal. Surely 10 years together, well actually, more she woudl have realised that????
I think that that is a major issue.
loading...
Yes,I think so. No one (except Tom and Nicole) can know what really happened in the fallout of their divorce and what she had to sacrifice in order to walk away from Tom. She seems so happy today with Keith Urban and her two little girls.
I wish Katie the very best of luck-I think she has a extraordinary fight on her hands.
loading...
Of course we don’t know the reasons behind the Kidman/Cruise split and the arrangements about their children and I doubt if we will ever know the truth about the Holmes/Cruise split etc either, not that it is any of our business. I do remember however after he split with Mimi Rogers, his first wife, there was a sensational story in the media when Mimi attempted to spill the beans on their marriage. The details escape me now but apparently it did not bode well with Cruise. From my perspective on the outside looking in, I don’t like him, never have and I certainly wouldn’t like to get on the wrong side of him. Good luck with that one Katie.
loading...
On one hand yes we don’t know all the details and maybe she does see them more than we know but then on the other hand surely there would be some pesky paparazzi who would have snapped a pic at some point. I am probably being naieve but I don’t see what Scientology or Tom could do or give Nicole in terms of $$ to force her to cut ties. It just looks like she agreed to whatever they said, do they have some sort of dirt on her that they would leak if she ever tried to pursue joint custody? I find it all rather odd to be honest.
loading...
Absolutely they would have dirt on her. Did you ever watch the BBC documentary ‘scientology and me’? Very interesting.
loading...
We live in a VERY different world now – when Tom and Nicole got divorced there wasn’t social media or many bloggers -he simply CAN’T get away with that kind of crap now, media is more transparent than ever and Katie seems to be using that in her favour.
loading...
I think we have all known deep down that Nicole can’t “talk” for fear of what Scientology might reveal. I imagine she looks at the Katie/Tom drama unfolding and lets out a big sigh of relief that she got out of there in one piece (that’s assuming that she did).
I think Katie must be a ball of anxiety at the moment, knowing that that kook sect and her kook husband are cooking up some really nasty stuff to assist Tom in getting his way with Suri. I hope to goodness that the courts can see this situation for what it is….a mother protecting her daughter from serious danger, and protect both Katie and Suri from all that craziness. It will be fascinating to see what Suri has to say about it all in 20 years or so.
Slightly off track there, but I think everyone is probably having some remorse for being so scathing about Nicole. I admit that since seeing her sweety-pie husband on the voice, I like her so much more.
loading...
Tom Cruise is weird.
End of story
loading...
It feels crazy to be emotionally invested in the divorce of a couple I don’t know at all, but I’m worried for Katie! She seems to have won a small victory (good on her for getting out) but I wonder if she has the resources and contacts to win the war.
loading...
Nicole was newly pregnant when Tom suddenly walked out on her… Nicole always emphasises in interviews that the break up was between two people. Perhaps it was about a third party.
loading...
Yes, Scientology
loading...
Celebrity culture baffles me. Why are people so invested in the lives of strangers, the details of which no-one knows but them? It’s bizarre.
loading...
I wish magazines like “No Idea” didn’t exist.
I also wish people would pay me a heap of money to make up rubbish
loading...
I know, right. Some of these comments are just hilarious. “I think she made a choice…..” “Tom is a manipulator…..” Because you’re, like, totally besties? Or at least neighbours, surely…?
I don’t really have any opinion on these people at all. Why? Because I don’t actually know them and have no idea what their relationships are like. I don’t wish them harm and I don’t feel deep sorrow for them, beyond any other *stranger* who was going through a divorce or custody fight.
And yes, I’m commenting. Because I do care about how tabloid culture causes people to feel they have some claim over the lives of people they don’t know. It’s creepy.
loading...
Don’t always be the grumpy one on this website Diana, it’s getting a little ho hum.
loading...
I do make the occasional nice comment…
loading...
I was even nice about Lara Bingle. Surprised myself.
loading...
Completely unrelated but I think Nicole is devine! Her hubby looks tops too.
loading...
Diana and Bradley!
loading...
In the last 6 months I have changed my opinion of Nicole Kidman – helped in part by just how wonderful her hubby is (a guy like that is not going to marry an uncaring dragon lady after all) and the latest in the separation/divorce of Katie and Tom. If anything this situation proves (well enough to me anyway) that the manipulator and controller Tom cut Nicole out of her kids lives. He is a maniac and I hope to god Katie doesnt suffer the same fate. That man is a nutter.
loading...
HUH?
“Nicole Kidman has attracted a lot of criticism over the years, does reading this make you feel more sympathetic toward her?”
Makes me wonder how journos can run with anything! Pure speculation & badly researched
Nicole has publically stated that she does have a relationship with Isabella & Connor. Keith has stated that he does have a relationship with his step children. Isabella has stated that she does have a relationship with Nicole and does call her mom! Nicole said that the kids sometimes (jokingly) call her Nicole instead of Mom, like some kids do, a journo ran with that aspect but not that they do call her mom.
The public doesn`t hate Nicole as much as the press wishes that we would.
loading...
It’s speculation alright but I disagree with the last sentence in your comment. The stuff that was written in the comments section here about Nicole on a post here once was pure vitriol.
loading...
I remember a quote I read – not sure where – where Nicole Kidman said when asked about Isabella and Conner “The truth will come out.”
I have no doubt those kids have been ‘brainwashed’ against her (I know that term sounds harsh but frankly, if they’re in a cult-ish church then having contact with Nicole will be seen as being a bad thing)
Anyway, I look at Nicole now and she just looks so very happy with Keith and Sunday and Faith. Hopefully her relationship with Isabella and Conner will improve as they get older.
loading...
“harsh” and “cult-ish”….. I don’t think you’ve been harsh at all. For me “cult-ish” doesn’t quite cut it though. I’d be more inclined to say “extreme cult”.
loading...
We – as in the public – may ‘think’ we know a lot about complete strangers. It’s beyond me how Nicole is made out to be such a villain when she was with the same ‘control freak’ that Katie was, and Katie seems to have much support from the public. I am not Australian and I am completely mystified why some Australians detest Nicole Kidman so much.
loading...
+1
loading...
I must admit that I am one of the people who have detested her. over the years I don’t know what it is about her that makes me feel that way but here are a few things that I particularly dislike
the fact that she has clearly had a lot of plastic surgery but denies it making the rest of the world feel bad because we don’t look like that and never will at her age and feel the need to also have surgery.
I also do not believe I have ever seen a movie she has made that I liked so I am kind of mistified as to what her talent is.
I’m sorry if this sounds harsh but just wanted to give you my opinion in answer to your question so please don’t reply giving me a hard time, it is just MY opinion.
loading...
Do I have sympathy for a woman whose ex-husband has allowed their children to be brainwashed into a dangerous cult? Yes, of course I do.
It is not as simple as “she should have fought harder for them”. The Church of Scientology is extremely powerful and has almost limitless resources at hand and they will stop at nothing to silence anyone who tries to make them look bad, which is probably what they thought Nicole would do, if she was awarded custody of the children. What exactly was she supposed to do, in the face of all that? She was famous and wealthy in her own right, but probably a peasant compared to Tom and the Church.
loading...
Hmmm, I’m with you FOYL. I recall Nicole looking like she had been hit by a very large truck in the months/year or two after the divorce. Sad, terrified and fragile. That church/cult has a lot of power and ways of twisting the truth. I for one (and this isa low comment!) I am very pleased TC was ‘blindsided’. Now he knows what it feels like… evil circus dwarf! That. is. all. Have a good Sunday.
loading...
“evil circus dwarf” hahahahahahahahahahah. You kill me!
loading...
I worry about Katie’s safety.
loading...
I love the opening line to Keith Urban’s song “I’m In”…..”love doesn’t come with a contract”……ha, suck on that Tom Cruise.
loading...
GOLD!
loading...
Another reason to love him!
loading...
Nobody except for Tom and Nicole know the truth about the marriage breakdown and arrangements about their children.
These sorts of articles are just pure speculation and don’t offer any sound information.
loading...
I agree
loading...
I agree! There is nothing new here, unless Nicole or Tom come forward with all the details (which they never will), then we’ll never know!
loading...
I think over the many years of watching Tom and Nicole, there is a lot we can glean from the bits and pieces that we have seen, and from that we can work out pretty much, what has been going on.
loading...
Nope doesn’t make me feel any sympathy for her at all. If they were my kids, I would have fought tooth and nail for them (or at least regular contact with them) regardless of what it took. The fact that she didn’t, just actually lowers my opinion of her even more.
loading...
How do you know she didn’t fight? You understand that with fights one person generally loses, don’t you? So it’s entirely possible that she fought and lost.
The fact that you state your opinion of someone is lowered based on pure supposition and projection of your own actions in the imagined situation doesn’t actually matter in the great scheme of things. I imagine you’ve never had your marriage pulled out from underneath you and been up against a rich and very powerful person.
When you have, come back at tell us all about it.
loading...
Nicole once said that having an adopted child is the same as a biological child – only difference being they came from her heart. Yet the paps who follow her 24/7 haven’t papped her with the adopted kids since 2005. Also, Tom was ecstatic when Suri was born even though he already had two (adopted) children.
loading...
Not true! There were many photos of Bella and Conor with their mum in 2006 at the time of her wedding to Keith, in 2007 while she was filming ‘Australia’, and also at the 2007 Kids’ Choice Awards.
loading...
I think that Tom and Nicole probably both decided at the time that the kids staying with their father was in everyones best interests. I get so tired of people saying the children decided to stay with him. As the article points out Conner was exactly the same age as Suri!
Scientology or not I think Nicole could have tried harder to form a relationship with those kids. I’m betting there is no way Katie will walk away. The article also speculates that Tom was more invested in parenting st that time. Given Nicole was working so hard on her career I think I agree with this.
loading...
You’ve got no idea what Nicole’s relationship with her kids is – none of us do. They come to Australia for visits and no doubt they all talk on the phone frequently. But I don’t really know, neither does anyone else.
loading...
Nicole doesn’t live in Australia!
loading...