By LEILA DRUERY
Last week I visited Villawood Residential Housing – a detention facility for families in immigration detention. Officially I was there on behalf of ChilOut, but unofficially I was there as a friend of Ranjiny, a pregnant mother of two who will give birth on January 6.
Ranjiny and her two children had been assessed as refugees, spending a year living in the Australian community, but were then re-detained on the basis of a secret negative ASIO assessment, which they could not defend themselves against.
Ranjiny came out from her house to meet me on a park bench. As she walked towards me I could see the pain and discomfort etched on her face – moment’s later tears were running down her face. “There are so many problems, I don’t know what to do, no-one is listening to me.” I told her I would listen.
As we talked, her children circled around her, obviously affected by her tears. “I have to be strong for them, I don’t like to cry because I know they get sad too … They also get sick when I’m sick … Sometimes they don’t go to school as they are too worried.” And they have much to be worried about.
Ranjiny is suffering from extreme back pain and has had trouble sleeping for weeks. She also has dangerously low iron levels, but she’s unable to swallow the medication provided and it makes her sick. When she asked for smaller capsules she was told, “Everyone has those tablets so you will too.”
Ranjiny described going to the doctors as a daunting experience, “I feel like people have told my doctor I am a terrorist because that is how I am treated… this is how I’m made to feel.”
Doctors requested in writing that detention guards not wave the metal detector over her belly, as it might be harmful to the baby, which was promptly ignored. Ranjiny tells them “There is nothing in there but my baby. Please stop harming him.”
Ranjiny doesn’t know what will happen when she goes into labour or what will become of her two young boys. She has been told that “someone” will care for her children while she is in hospital. But who that someone is will be decided on the day.
She is terrified about this, “When I gave birth to my last son he was very big and it took me a long time to recover, I couldn’t walk or lift my eldest son. I am older this time so I am worried things will be worse, my children already miss out on going on excursions because I am too sick to take them. This is not fair, I feel bad for them.”
As is customary in her culture, Ranjini will remain at home for three weeks with her newborn baby. Her husband is denied access to her house, so she’ll have no help or support.
I remember her saying, “I wish they could spend time with my husband, he is a good man, and has become the only father they can remember… they need a parent to give them attention and care for them while I’ll feed and recover with the new baby.”
Next week Ranjiny will have given birth to a beautiful boy, while still being held in detention.
But she will not be able to take any photos of her newborn. When his father first holds him or when he opens his eyes to gaze at his mother for the first time, these moments will be lost. Ranjiny is denied access to a camera and no one is allowed to provide one.
Ranjiny is one of the strongest women I’ve ever met and her children are blessed to have her as a mother. I tell her that we care about her and want her in the community where she has many friends. One day I hope our children will play.
I did not cry in front of Ranjiny and the kids. I wanted to give strength and hope and not add to their sadness. I will cry tears of joy the day Ranjiny and her three children meet me outside detention. They are not a threat to Australia, but our policies and the negative ASIO assessment are a real threat to the health of this beautiful family and the future of three young lives. It’s time for the injustice to stop. It’s time for Australians to tell our leaders that all children deserve to be Born Free.
If you’d like to call for the immediate release of Ranjini and her children, and want to express your compassion and support for this beautiful family, you’re invited to join with ChilOut, Welcome to Australia and Letters For Ranjini at 11am on January 6 in Sydney and in Melbourne. Pregnant women, new mums and other supporters will meet in disused gaols and community centres in a show of solidarity and as a declaration that all children in Australia should be Born Free. Please visit the Facebook event page here for more details or email Leila Druery (team@chilout.org) to register.








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I put off clicking on this article until now because the (ignorant) comments on stories about asylum seekers often piss me off. The comments on this story are no exception.
But I did enjoy reading about Ranjiny’s story, so thank you Leila
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This story is sad and I feel for the family. This is just one example of many sad stories in our community.
There are many people out there who are not as fortunate as ourselves. We can claim that we’ve worked hard etc to get where we are and therefore we deserve it but for most of us it comes down to being born into a loving family in a first world country.
Think about where you would be right now if you were born into poverty. Born into a family where your parents preferred their drug habit to feeding you. Born with a father who abused and assaulted your mother, siblings and you. Born in Afghanistan, Iran, Vietnam, Cambodia, China, or Lebanon and longing to feel freedom, to be educated and to work.
When you talk about refugees, asylum seekers, the unemployed, single parents etc remember that they are actual people. Simply because they are human beings (like ourselves) means that they deserve the same respect you would show your friends. You may not be willing to show them compassion but they deserve respect so please don’t generalize or make unsupported statements about them ripping off the government and not being deserving of what they receive- of which a lot comes from charities.
Let’s be kind to one another. Afterall, your negative comments won’t change government policies but they can make someone feel worse than they already do. Sure you’re entitled to an opinion but try to support it with evidence.
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Great comment, well said
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I imagine the reason she doesn’t know who will care for her kids is that available careers will be found on the day, there is a chronic shortage of carers and the local FACS agency will not be able to keep a carer free for weeks, they don’t have that option.
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Right so your brother is wrongly accused and in jail. But she couldn’t possibly be. Sure.
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This is a really tricky situation – ASIO would not have detained her for no reason and they are not legally obliged to explain themselves to anyone. And yet I do feel sorry for her living in the conditions she is in. I just don’t see what the solution is here. She cannot be released if there is still an issue an it is very difficult for her to live in the situation she is in. Such a catch 22.
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Yes I feel sorry for her. What they have seen and endured must have been horific. Her baby will be born in a safe enviroment and like so many women before her will come home to no husband and other children to look after. Lets face it many have plasma TV it is now the norm. Didnt we go off when the low income earners started have baby after baby to buy their plasmas with the baby bonus. There is always two stories, to every matter ASIO have pulled her in for a reason they have a reason as well as she does. Two sides always.
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Thank goodness for ASIO. There is obviously a reason why she has been moved back to detention.In fact a very good reason-very glad that our Security Organisation is doing its’ work. A very one-sided article which made me look up the author after I made my comment this morning. As far as I can see, Leila, this is one of your first articles you’ve written as well as working in some capacity to do with refugees. Could have poked numerous holes in this article. ASIO-do not just move people around on a whim and the details of this ‘story’ would in no way be released to the general public. Obviously, there is much more to this than meets the eye.This woman would have some inkling re the reason and thus I suspect is why she chose to have another child-to be born in Australia. Playing the victim is ludicrous-she has free medical,food ,shelter and all the other perks generously given to her by us Austrlians. She should be grateful-certainly not critical and it is this criticism of her circumstances which annoys the hell out of me.Government is already enticing Real Estate Agents to give these ‘refugees’ priority housing and it will be a case of ‘not in my suburb’ Can see so many problems ahead between the different ethnicities re different entitlements etc.John Howard-was the only one who had the guts to say “we decide who comes to live in our country”
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What different entitlements?
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Funny Verity, you mention holes in Leila’s article, yet you don’t actually mention any of them, or provide evidence to the contrary.
How do you know how ASIO operates?
Where has the Government (state? Federal? Local councils?) been enticing real estate agents to give refugees priority housing?
What different entitlements do different ethnicities get?
I still don’t understand how having a baby in detention is a good thing – you’re assuming that she’s doing this because she has an inkling of what ASIO wants with her husband? I really don’t get that one.
You’re right, she should be grateful that security guards won’t stop waving metal detecting wands over her pregnant belly, contrary to requests from her Doctor. And she should be grateful that she has no idea who will look after her children while she’s in labour. Also incredibly grateful that there will be no cameras allowed at the birth of her child. Oh and don’t forget! Grateful that her kids don’t see their father. Because he’s away on Secret Squirrel business. Sorry. I meant ASIO business.
Maybe, try thinking about how you would like to be treated in the same circumstance.
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why did she leave her country? she could always go back if its so horrific for her here. horrible people us aussies.
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So Lisa, how many refugees do you house? How much money or time do you donate to refugees? I get very tired of people who espouse their virtue and opinion while they live comfortably in their white bread world. I have worked for DOCs for 20 years and have seen graphically first hand the chronic underfunding of services meant to protect children, and support families. I hear time and time again from critics who say Docs are killing children because they leave them in unsafe environments, so I ask them “are you prepared to take in these children with emotional and behavioral disorders? Are you prepared to invest the time and forgo an income because you are driving the children to and from doctors appointments? Are you prepared to be checked up on and assessed every 12months and not be allowed to have guests in your house because they don;t have the necessary approval / blue card?” To all the bleeding hearts out there who think only people from overseas are persecuted, tortured and brutalized then open your bloody eyes, its happening in your street, in your community and in your country.
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This really annoys ME. Kate no-one, and especially not Lisa, has expressed any lack of compassion toward the people in difficult circumstances in our own backyard. It IS possible to have compassion for ALL people from ALL walks of life and corners of the Earth. It does not have to be one or the other. Instead of throwing around the phrase “bleeding heart” as though it is an insult, maybe you should extend your compassionate mindset outside your little box and realise we can and should work to help as many people who need it as we can. Denying help for and humane treatment of detainees and asylum seekers will not magically change the funding in the other areas or fix them. They are all separate and highly complex. Open YOUR eyes… mine are wide open. I live in a global community, not just a suburb, a town, a state and a country. Do you?
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No I don’t live in a global community….I choose to invest my energy doing things for people I know and live amongst instead of trying to save the world. Doesn’t mean I don’t have compassion for people, you have your beliefs and I have mine.
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Actually that DOES mean you don’t have compassion for anyone outside your own little box. If you did, you’d look past the end of your own nose and realise that those immediately surrounding you aren’t the only ones deserving of help. It is not US and THEM like you seem to think.
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And yet if ASIO let in someone who was a terrorist and they killed someone we would all be asking why ASIO let it happen.
Give these guys some credit, they have a scary job to do with huge responsibility for our safety. I trust that they are doing their best and I wouldnt want to have that responsibily!
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The comments about plasmas etc brings to mind Paul Kelly’s song ‘Special Treatment’. It’s about the perception that Indigenous Australians receive benefits etc that others don’t receive. Yep, very special treatment, huh?
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I am not a refugee but an Immigrant from Turkey. I would just like to thank Australia fort new life. I have 8 children we given small house to start now we get complain no room we get big house, very nice, we also get nice car . We live nice life .
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Would love to know who bought you your car?
Or maybe you are from the little known island of Troll?
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I am new,wish you a happy age!
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Mama Mia, I would love it if one day you published an article with the facts about refugees in Australia. You could address so many of the points brought up below, as well as the ones that were brought up a few weeks ago when Mia did a piece about refugees. Best of all, you could address it with the truth.
As someone stated below, ‘A lie will make its way around the world before truth gets its boots on.’ I just wish someone was actively broadcasting the truth about these issues.
I’m so sick of reading these sorts of statements ‘refugees get given plasmas, loads of cash, houses.’ ‘Why don’t we look after our own’ ‘We take too many refugees’ ‘our aid budget is too large (it’s not. It’s a joke compared to other developed countries) etc etc etc… it’s old and tired and offensive.
Please consider getting one of your smart writers to do a piece about it. You could even have clever links back to where the information came from to show it’s the truth…
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Wow. Just… wow. To Verity and the two posters who have chosen to remain Anonymous: how have managed to form opinions and post them here, but have failed to do a basic Google search that would demonstrate that your claims are ridiculous?
You can get all the information on the Government Human Services website. Refugees and asylum seekers are eligible for The Asylum Seeker Assistance (ASA) Scheme, which provides assistance to ELIGIBLE asylum seekers who are in the process of having their refugee status determined. The ASA Scheme offers income support to cover basic living expenses, paid at 89 per cent of the Centrelink Special Benefit. This would equal approximately $405.84 per fortnight for a single asylum seeker – over $260 less than the single age pension. This scheme is administered by the Red Cross and to be eligible they must have lodged an application for a visa 6 months before, not be in detention, and not get any other payment or benefit.
Once a person has been verified as a genuine refugee (after a lengthy and cruel process), they are entitled to the same benefits as other Australians. No more, no less.
Any additional support (such as those “free” cars and flat screen TV’s you seem to think refugees get) comes from charities. They are donated goods. That have been supplied by ordinary Aussie’s who are compassionate enough to realise that fleeing your home in terror and re-settling in another location is necessary for some, and that it is not easy.
Seriously, a little Googling will help you get your facts straight before you make stupid, misinformed statements.
My heart breaks for Ranjiny and her family. The policies of the Australian government are nothing short of cruel, inhumane, and breach of the most basic Human Rights that we are all entitled to. If there was one policy that makes me deeply ashamed of my country, it is this one.
Thank you to MM, Leila, Welcome to Australia, ChilOut and Letters for Ranjini for doing all that they can to help Ranjini, her family, and so many more who are suffering through no fault of their own.
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Thank-you Carol. I’ve tried to post two similar posts but they seem to get eaten up in Mama Mia’s website and don’t get published.
Thank-you for being the voice of reason here.
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Thanks for putting that straight. I hate people going on about all these perceived benefits . I am glad Australia does help people and does the right thing.
I still don’t feel I know enough about ASIO and why they make decisions, how they are based and if common sense is applied. I do believe people can support terrorist organisations in the past and still be good people now they live a different life with different perspectives. Would like to hope a bit of common sense and ability to judge each situation on its merits is applied. I would hate people to be stuck in libo who are no threat to anyone.
I also understand why it is difficult to tell a person why they have been classed a threat as it may be dangerous for other people and shut down lines of information.
All very blurry really and I really would be disappointed if ASIO let’s a bunch of criteria and rules stand in the way of common sense judgements applicable to individuals not boxes to tick .
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I haven’t even read those comments but I can imagine them. As someone who works in an area that a lot of refugees settle in due to cheap housing, I have been shown the paperwork from centrelink, visas, passports, vaccination certificates, bank statements, from them at times. Pretty much everything you can. E shown and I have seen no evidence of refugees getting anything other than what Australians get.
Carol is also correct when she says they often have things that are donated to charities etc. I really wish this shit would stop circulating.
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A lie will make its way around the world before truth gets it’s boots on.
It is an urban myth about refugees getting free money, housing and TV perpetuated by tabloid TV and newspapers.
Are people that paranoid that we have lost our compassion?
I have known people who interview and assess refugees, the genuine people well outnumber the frauds.
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it is hard to have an opinion when we don’t know what level of evidence ASIO has against her. If she is a threat I would much rather she be locked up.
and no camera etc is a bit of a first world problem if your a refugee I am sure you would be glad of a hospital birth. A safe birth would be a much better option then giving birth in a tent.
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I hate that attitude. “She shouldn’t expect much she’s a refugee”. There is no skill in being born in a lucky country like Australia. As for this “FWP problem of no camera at the birth”, the reality is THIS IS A FIRST WORLD COUNTRY. How do we look at ourselves in the mirror if we rate one humans rights above another’s??? Especially one in such dire need?? She deserves and should be given less because….why???
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How she gives birth is not exactly one of the big issues here is it? Luxury compared to what she is accustomed to. It trivialises the big issues.
Why she is locked up, why her kids are locked up. Why she cannot appeal are all relevant points. Sensationaliseing it because she is pregnant is irrelevant. expletive give birth in prisons all the time.
I think she deserves an appeal and a bit of common sense- she does not come across as a threat to this nation. I would love to know ASIO’s criteria for this type of thing.
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I read an article like this & it makes me very ashamed of our country, ashamed of our government & the so called process that has locked this innocent woman and her two (soon to be 3) children. Are their human rights just not considered? Is it not in our way that people should be considered innocent until proven guilty. As far as I’m concerned if they can’t release these so called secret reasons then she is clearly innocent.
Can a lawyer not fight and take this to court so she can defend herself, to unzip secrets reasons the accused has the right to know????
To the people that claim she gets a house, car, furniture this is not correct and does not happen, they also get very limited funds from our country and are some of the most hard workibg people i have ever met. Some Aussies that sit on the dole could learn a thing or two. Please don’t assume if you don’t know for a fact.
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Hmm.why get pregnant again-a ploy used by many hoping to jump to the top of the list.
Yep-FREE medical, food, housing (while our own are homeless and receiving Centrelink payments of OUR money. Making OUR pensioners work til they’re 67 to fund them.
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Yes, you’re right. People who have fled their country under fear of persecution really shouldn’t have babies. Actually, why don’t we just sterilise them when they arrive here? No tricky babies that they can use for us to feel sorry for them.
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Verity, When you give/gave birth no doubt you were surrounded by loving family and you are confident that any other children you have would be with those who love them. She is a refugee which means she was desparate to leave her own ‘unliveable’ homeland. I work with refugee women and the vast majority come from horrific backgrounds.
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She fell pregnant while she was living in the community after being assessed as a refugee. She didn’t decide to get pregnant in order to gain people’s sympathy.
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Now, now, Odette, you’re letting the facts get in the way of someone’s rant. You should stop doing that
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Gees. Where is your compassion?
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Yes verity I agree. These people will get looked after , comfortable housing and centre link payments, houses, cars..
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Prove what you just wrote, I dare you.
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There is something up with the link to the facebook event page – I get re-directed to a Mama mia article about floriade…
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Hi Lisa – this is the link you are after – http://www.facebook.com/events/508023545884881/
Thanks
Anthony
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It is a process they have to wait. Simple . Why do they think they can come here and expect everything so quickly. Yes they will get their home with all it’s contents for free. A place to call their own, monetary allowances, a car . It will happen but for the moment stop complaining and just wait.
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Hang on. She did wait, she was assessed as a refugee and released into the community. Now an ASIO report which is ‘secret’ has put her back into detention and she cannot even appeal the report or the decision. This is a violation of her human rights. I have no problem with due process so long as it is transparent, defendable and takes into account all stakeholders (including that of the unborn child) and is carried out in a timely fashion. I doubt this woman really cares if she gets a bunch of free possessions and allowances, she just doesn’t want to give birth to her child in a place where people don’t even care enough not to wave the security wand near her womb. She want to know her children will be looked after and reassured by someone who cares about them and the stress they are under.
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ASIO have re-detained her FOR A REASON.
if something happened ,you would all be shaking your fingers at ASIO saying “how could you let this occur?”
they have not re-detained her “just because”.
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She’s already been assessed and found to be a genuine refugee and thus has been living in the community with her family.
The unjustness is about the fact that her refugee status has been revoked without explanation – there’s no charge for her to answer to, just incarceration with any explanation or reason.
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incarceration?? really??. Last time I visited my brother , who is incarcerated, in jail, he didn’t have the pleasure of walking outside and sitting on a park bench in the sunshine. He’s told when to eat, what to eat, when to sleep, shower etc etc etc. That’s incarceration. She’s got a better life than my brother that’s for sure.
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If your brother is in jail because he committed a crime then, I’m sorry, he doesn’t deserve those ‘perks’. As far as I can tell from this story Ranjiny has committed no crime yet is still incarcerated in the sense her and her two boys are not free. Totally different scenarios.
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My brothers innocent just like she is claiming. Sympathy for her, yet none for my brother. ASIO has deemed her a risk. You don’t know her just like you all don’t know my brother. My point was, there is a big difference between incarceration in the real sense and living in a house, surrounded by comforts. She is not incarcerated.
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Someone in prison is claiming they’re innocent?!?! THAT HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE.
But still, he had his day in court and was found guilty, right? This lady wasn’t. And if she can’t go anywhere, and is behind bars, then that is incarceration.
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He is innocent, but is doing the time. She has been found to be a risk by ASIO, so she has to do her time as well. Sometimes life’s not fair, is it. How you all know she is innocent and not a risk is astounding to me. ASIO don’t just randomly pick out people you know. They actually know more than you all, a lot more. Oh, but she’s a woman, and pregnant, there’s no way she’s guilty of anything right?
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If your brother is doing the time without trying to take legal action against his judgement then I seriously doubt he is innocent. The chances are that he is lying to you. Yes, we know there are innocent people in jail, but very rarely. My ex had done a number of jail terms (great pick I know) and of the men I met in prisonwhen seeing him, some of them did admit that they would tell others they were innocent when they weren’t.
We don’t know that she’s innocent. The worst thing is that she is not allowed to find out what ASIO have against her and her husband, or when there will be an end in sight to this. Your brother will have a release date.
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Why would you do the time for a crime you didn’t commit?
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If your brother is in jail, I assume he had a trial – with a chance to hear the charges against him, look at the evidence for those charges, and defend himself against the charges. She’s had none of those things.
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yeah, but your brother committed a crime. This lady is a refugee, already decided, but has been given a bad asio assessment because her dead husband was a Tamil. So, her and her children are condemned to indefinite detention because her husband was a freedom fighter. So, your brother is being punished for something wrong he did, while this woman has done nothing wrong.
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Your brother is in jail because he is a criminal, serving a punishment.
This woman is not a criminal.
That is the difference.
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How do you know she isn’t a criminal??? ASIO thinks she is a risk. They know more than you, so how do you know she isn’t? Back up your claims of her innocence.
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@Really? Your brothers situation is very different. He’s been incarcerated because he’s been found to have broken the law and is being punished for whatever crime he has committed. Ranjini has not been found guilty of a crime (ASIO won’t actually release details of what they have on her because they don’t have to, which is an issue right there). Comparing the two situations, amd saying she is better off, is a bit of a stretch because its not the same thing.
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With all due respect, if your brother has been rightfully convicted and placed in jail, he is a criminal. Surely a refugee deserves more freedoms and rights? You surely cannot put refugee and criminal on the same page????
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But if your brother’s in prison, doesn’t that mean he was convicted of a crime and is paying the penalty for that? ie Being incarcerated?
Claiming asylum isn’t illegal. This woman was deemed a refugee and had been living in the community, and now she’s not. So yeah, she’s incarcerated. She doesn’t have her freedom and has been locked up as punishment for whatever it is ASIO are claiming about her.
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Difference is that your brother has been proven in court, or has pled guilty to a crime of enough magnitude (or is a repeat offender) that has put him in jail. He is being punished for his crime. This woman does not know what she has done wrong is is having her freedom curtailed.
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Hi Anonymous
Thanks for commenting – Ranjini and her family were living in the Australian community and were removed to now face mandatory indefinite detention – meaning Ranjini could be the rest of her life, and unless the family is broken up the kids will be there until they are adults. Please read this article for more information on her situation – http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/wife-mother–security-threat-20120517-1yths.html
Your other comments about housing, cars and benefits are not accurate. Most asylum seekers living in the community receive less than 90% of the minimum centrelink payment.
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@anthony. Sorry But your point about them receiving less than 90% of Centrelink payments is totally inaccurate. My sister works with these people setting them up , housing etc. they receive a rather comfortable lump sum plus plenty of entitlements and Centrelink benefits. Please dont delude your readers.
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Comfortable sum? It’s less (Yes! Less!) than what pensioners get. I’d wouldn’t say they’re all that comfortable…
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I have also worked with asylum seekers and refugees. Your sister is lying, Kate C. Sorry.
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Your sisters not Alan Jones or Ray Hadlee by any chance
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Yes and she will get released with a nice home to call her own, fully furnished, including soft furnishings a plasma.
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What is your problem you seem to be stuck on the fact the refugees are given a house and the basics of life in Australia, would you prefer refugees and their children to be released onto to streets?
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I would Prefer if we housed the people already living here. Families living in cars .
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Do you truly care about and donate time and money to the charities assisting families living in cars, or is it just about ‘us vs them’ for you?
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Where is the info to back that statement up? I’ve just been googling to find out what refugees receive upon detention and I can’t find anything.
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You wont find that information because its charities that provide most of that stuff and its not given to them. There is usually a time limit, often about 6 months and then theyre expected to make their own way.
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Are you seriously suggesting that all this amazing and brave lady is suffering, with both her and her kids being held in detention, her pregnancy and all the stress that comes with that, the absence of her husband, the concerns for her unborn baby, for a plasma TV??? Seriously??? This is a lady who fled a war zone with her two boys, and who came to Australia to make a better life. She applied for and was accepted to have been a genuine refugee. Not an economic migrant, and not someone “pushing in” or trying to “beat the system”. She is exactly the type of person “the system” was set up to help and assist. She met and married a lovely guy, and together they were building that life here in Melbourne. Her boys were at school, she was on the PTA, and she was blessed with a new baby on the way. And then she was called to a ‘meeting’ and told to bring her boys, where she was promptly arrested and sent interstate and put in detention for an indefinite period of time, with no right of appeal, for a supposed reason that no-one will tell her. Leaving her now pregnant in a detention centre, with minimal access to her husband. And her boys aren’t playing cricket and going to school, they’re locked up with a group of angry and volatile group of mostly young men in their twenties. Not other kids, not the friends and family that we’ve all been spending time with lately. This is not about her accumulating a plasma tv, this is a horrible and graphic breach of human rights, and it’s happening right here in Australia. Right now. And it’s so wrong. Don’t be fooled that this is about “stuff”. And to say it is, is both vapid and wrong. This is happening in front of us, and anyone who can see this and not see the problem should be taking a good hard look at themselves. My hope is that Ranjiny’s baby and her two boys grow up in an Australia where compassion and support is the norm. Not ignorance and political slogans. And for anyone who’s had to answer their own kid’s questions as to why no-one helped the Jews being rounded up in Europe during WW2, or any other group suffering such an injustice, think about what’s happening here. And why we’re letting it happen. this is about us, and our apathy to a system gone totally wrong. Not about a plasma TV, and shame on you for suggesting otherwise.
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Erin I could not have said it better.
It worries me to think about what we are doing to the children.
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Thank god for plasma tv’s. they seem to solve the world’s problems. All will be good once she is sitting on her comfy couch watching dancing with the fecking stars.
Seriously cannot abide such ignorance and underlying hated towards refugees.
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Don’t feed the troll, it just makes it hungrier and nastier!!
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