Yesterday, I published a post about the storm around some unretouched photos of Jennifer Aniston from a Harpers Bazaar cover shoot. The quick version is that US website Jezebel published a shot they’d received from someone claiming it was an original out-take from the shoot, before the massive digital alteration took place. Soon after posting the shot and writing about it, in a post entertainingly called “How Your Jennifer Aniston Sausage Gets Made”, they received legal letters threatening them with action if they didn’t take it down.
The letter came from the photographer’s agent and sited ‘copyright infringement’. Jezebel objected and another letter came, claiming the shot had also been “doctored from the quality of files from our server from the shoot.”
Jezebel are calling bullshit on this claim, insisting that the agents (who need to carry favour with Jennifer) are freaking out because the photo is genuine.
When I first published the post (guested by Vanessa Raphaelly), it was based on my understanding the ‘before’ shot was real. I prepared the post late at night and I’m not entirely on my game this week because when I took another look at it after pressing ‘publish’ yesterday, I realised the shot was a fake (to her credit, so did Vanessa, I just hadn’t read that bit closely enough). So I took down the post since it was all a bit confusing and was making me uncomfortable.
HOWEVER.
The shot that appeared on the cover of Harpers Bazaar – just like EVERY photo you see of any female celebrity on a magazine cover or movie poster – was HEAVILY digitally altered. I know it was. I have an experienced eye.
I also know someone who has seen all the other shots from that shoot that weren’t re-touched, when they were in the process of deciding whether to buy one of them to use for something else. I asked her what they were like and she said: “She looked normal – gorgeous but she had lines and freckles and her skin tone wasn’t even. You know, normal.”
So. What are we to take away from this and why am I publishing this post at all? Well, there were lots of you who did notice that I took the post down yesterday and were confused and fair enough so I wanted to explain what happened. I also want to explain that while I do believe the shot Jezebel published WAS digitally altered to make it look bad, I don’t think it’s the original, un-touched before from that cover shoot.
Clearly though, the ‘after’ shot on the cover is DRAMATICALLY digitally altered. Just like every other bloody cover of every other celebrity.
Make no mistake, this is not about Jennifer or about any one magazine. It’s a story about how sick and twisted the system has become. And how it is doing untold, ongoing damage to women and girls.
In a follow up, defending its publication of the shots (and others) Jezebel had this to say, which I couldn’t have said better myself:
From Jessica Coen at Jezebel:
Just to make sure we’re all on the same page here: We’re not picking a fight when we show images that have been crazily Photoshopped, or when we show you before-and-after shots of celebrities. We’re not pulling some tabloidian “see celebrities without makeup!” or “look who has cellulite!” shtick. This is about the fucked-up imagery that is consistently and persistently gracing newsstands as the beauty standard to which we should all aspire.
For those of you who have seen, time and time again, these manipulated images — be it a retouched wrinkle or a dramatically trimmed waistline — and are aware of the reality behind them, you’re maybe able to look at ads and mags and keep your head straight. Not necessarily, but that’s the hope.
But remember that every day, a young woman somewhere sees one of these overly polished pictures for the first time…and has no idea that they’re not real. She may very well have no idea that most waists don’t really bend without a roll of flesh, that a 40-year-old woman actually does have some wrinkles, that no mascara will make one’s lashes magically long enough to tickle her eyebrows. What the girl does know is that the pictures show What Is Beautiful. She thinks they are reality. And maybe she doesn’t have someone in her life to point out that this is complete and utter bullshit. So we’ll do that, and we’ll do it over and over again just to make sure that everyone knows what’s up.
And as long as we’re on the topic of bullshit: the degree to which the female-targeted media industrial complex wants to keep these images away from you is shameful.
They will fight to keep you from seeing a naturally gorgeous woman before she’s been properly Photoshopped. Her gorgeousness is not enough; she must be superhumanly gorgeous. And there are whole legal teams who make their living making sure you have no choice but to to look at a lie.
Lord knows that I’m not perfect, that there are days when I simply do not like what I see in the mirror. And there are reasons for that that are deeply personal and reasons that are rooted in a youth spent immersed in these images. On those bad days, it’s not easy to give myself a reality check, but I know it’s all wrong, that it doesn’t have to be this way. And if we don’t make a fuss, if we don’t scream and shout and pull out our hair every time we find more proof that we are being cruelly had — that’s just another day that nothing changes. That’s just another day that some young woman is force-fed a lie.
And that, too, is bullshit.







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This is a bit left field but … Darling Husband bought a new bells & whistles camera on the weekend. He was trying out different settings and snapped off a few frames of me and I was horrified at how tired and old I looked, the photographed face wasn’t the one I thought looked back from the mirror every morning! So I can kind of understand why celebrities request major photoshopping, I wouldn’t want my tired old face on the front of the magazines so I am guessing that they don’t either. But then I also maintain that if I had the plethora of hair/makeup/styling experts that the celebrities have I wouldn’t need photoshop because all the work would be done already.
The other side of the story is explaining to Miss Almost12 that most of what you see is not true. To here credit she is becoming pretty adept at looking an image and taking it with a grain of salt.
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I’m studying to become a photographer and some of the things we are learning at the moment shock me. Even with the knowledge that magazines are heavily photoshopped, learning the extent of it is surprising. We have recently been focusing on skin retouching, which involves blurring skin to make it seem smooth, removing blemishes and things like that. But I think people would be really surprised at just how much difference there is between a raw image and a processed one. Not even just people, but products and landscape and everything. I can guarantee that every single picture in a magazine is photoshopped to some extent. It’s not just the model photos or beauty shots. However there is a difference between cleaning up an image (removing blemishes etc) with actually making people appear skinnier than they are or otherwise altering their appearance. I really don’t agree with that and if ever asked to do that with my photographs will refuse. I don’t know if this will change anytime soon but hopefully the good work Mia and others are doing for the cause will get us there faster. Sorry for the long post
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I think my hesitation to jump on board this campaign lies in the fact that it seems to rest on the premise that when we look at images of people better-looking than us, we are inevitably going to feel shit about ourselves.
What about just accepting that some people ARE going to be better looking than you/me/her, just as others are going to be less attractive?
We’ve all got to deal with feeling inferior to other people in different ways – attractiveness is only one of the ways in which compare ourselves to others. Part of growing up is learning to deal with the fact that other people might have advantages you don’t, but seeing the value in what you do have.
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Hi Zabie
There’s a big difference between someone being better looking than you and someone’s looks being faked to the point of unattainable perfection.
One is reality, the other is trickery.
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But doesn’t nearly everyone know that professional photos are often retouched? If something is common knowledge then I don’t think its trickery to do it.
Anyway, things like good lighting, profesional make-up, a high-quality camera plus a flattering angle will make any subject look better in photo than they ever could face to face – is every photo in which a person looks better than they do in real life “trickery”?
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I think you’re giving people too much credit, despite campaigns to the contrary most people don’t realise the extent to which photos are retouched in magazines. And children who see the images have no idea.
Flattering lighting and camera angles are one thing, but decreasing the size of someone’s legs (for example) is another.
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Hi Zabie, I hear what you’re saying…we don’t live on a level playing field. But I do agree with Claudia, all this photo rejigging just makes the playing field far more unlevel (and unfairer) than it ever was.
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I agree zabie.
I always remember a line from ‘Desiderata’, when I wish I had something someone else has, to try to remind me that no matter who I am or what I look like, I’m ok.
“If you compare yourself with others,
you may become vain and bitter;
for always there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.”
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Okay, I’m going to play devil’s advocate here.
Photoshopping images peeves me off no end. It is such a crap message to send to impressionable young women.
With this in mind I am wondering why Sarah Murdoch, who is on the same national body image advisory board as Mia features in a heavily promoted billboard photo which has had an extreme amount of photoshopping applied to it (I’m talking about the advertisement for this season’s Next Top Model).
If the women who are given a pivotal government role in making change can’t make that stand as an individual, then seriously, why are the rest of us bothering with the ‘chest beating’.
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Thats a really valid point. It did scream a bit ‘hypocritical’ to me.
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And the Women’s Weekly un-retouched cover of her a while back was absolutely stunning
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There was a great show on Lifestyle You a while ago called Look but Don’t Touch.
A british girl group member gave herself the task of finding a magazine who would put a picture of herself on the cover untouched. It was really difficult for her to find one that would!
I’ve just had a look on the Lifestyle You website and they are re-screeening the show on Sept 2.
http://www.lifestyleyou.com.au/tv/alesha-dixonlook-but-dont-touch/
It was a very interesting watch and a great insight into the industry.
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I don’t think she looks that different from the first photo. The “retouched” photo looks sunnier and her skin browner (could that be better lighting and more make up?).
If we start having disclaimers on the bottom of photos saying “this photo has been retouched” should we then have a list of beauty products used and a blurb from the photographer about lighting and angles?
Photos, like movies are fantasy. I know I don’t look like a model and I can’t afford most of the clothes in the fashion magazines. Perhaps we need to educate young girls (and boys) about what is real and what is not and NOT leave it up to magazines.
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How can you compare makeup which enhances looks to retouching which literally changes looks?
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Make up can change looks. What about drag queens?
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Hi Stefanie, please see my answer to Zabie…
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A few years ago I saw Susan Sarandon walking down Acland Street in St Kilda. Let me tell you she had wrinkes and sagging skin, although the beautiful woman she used to be was still evident. Not long after I saw Sarandon, she appeared in Revlon adds at chemist shops. The air-brushed Revlon lady looked 20 years younger than the Acland Street lady.
I suspect Susan Sarandon may have had surgery recently because she looks quite different nowadays in her out-and-about photos in newspapers and magazines.
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So when you see Sarandon in the Revlon ad, you think it looks non-airbrushed, naturalistic? You must be the only person in the world.
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It’s not only magazines that do this. They use similar technology in films now. Diane Keaton has this in her contract for every film she does.
It’s quite seamless too, no vaseline on the lens Doris Day look to it at all.
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I remember reading quite a few years ago in a mag – it could even have been Cosmo Mia- about photoshopping in men’s magazines of vaginas. The article, if I remember correctly, was talking about the regulations in Australia at the time about this and how the editor were not actually allowed to show real vaginas, but HAD to photoshop them.
The article was saying that this lead to young men having unrealistic ideas about what female genitalia looked like and women who saw these images developing issues as they compared their real vaginas to the smoothed out trimmed vaginas they saw in the pages.
It was very interesting to me as I had no idea about the regulations – it would be interesting to hear what the regulations are these days. Perhaps a magazine insider could enlighten me???
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I used to work next door to Penthouse magazine {oh yes…} and the ruling was that no inner labia were allowed to extend past the outer labia – so well over half the women had their labia trimmed to suit the guidelines.
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Was that a govt regulation or just in house policy? It seems wrong to me. Do they also use photoshop to extend a man’s penis or make it a bit girthier in playgirl or whatever magazine shows men’s bits?
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It was government regulation, censorship board. And, funnily enough on the mag with nude men, men’s bits had to be below a certain angle – so the art director’s protractor got a workout! And, ‘girthwise’ when they were taking the shots of the men, they always had ‘semi-wood’ – but no photoshopping – foreskins were okay regardless of length…
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I’m going to confess that until I read Mama Mia I had no idea that magazines used mainly photo shopped images. I just thought celebs looked that good in real life (and that’s why they were celebs). I think there are lots of people including young girls who have no idea that they are comparing themselves to computer generated images and that is both sad and dangerous. I make a point of telling my 10 year old daughter that some images are not real… but its a hard conversation and she really doesn’t understand how for eg Miley Cyrus doesn’t look like that when all she has seen are re touched images of her.
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The day I realised was a few years ago when I saw a local celebrity at swimming lessons with her kids. She was freckly and wrinkled and her hair wasnt perfect. She looked like a normal, very attractive, late 30′s early 40′s frazzled mum who didnt have time for a blow dry. Not the perfect wrinkle/freckle free look she has when she’s in one of the weekly womens mags.
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I am quite fair and had a scattering of freckles on my nose when I was a child and I hated them so much and always wanted them to fade away…and they did. Now I look at photos of women with those same freckles and think they are absolutely gorgeous. Really we can never be happy! Why would someone want to airbrush out freckles. I think they often add to beauty.
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Mia the tone of this article is far different to the one that Vanessa wrote – it has a completely different (and better message).
I was irate at the first one – this one has a point.
Still dont agree that there is a fake picture of Jennifer Aniston posted here though.
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The pictures of Julia Gillard in the Womens’ Weekly show what good photography can do. The ‘Julia Gillard’ in the Womens’ Weekly looks nothing like the Julia Gillard we see anywhere else. Whether they digitally alter, air-brush or just use careful photography with flattering lights, magazines have a lot to answer for. When women start to feel bad about how they look, they should just compare and contrast the Women’s Weekly Gillard with the woman who appears on their TV screens and in their newspapers.
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i picked up a cosmo the other day and there are make up ads with jessica biel that are close ups that aren’t actually that bad! you can see her pores and normal things like laugh lines etc.. of course she looks stunning but my first though was.. “SHE LOOKS SO NORMAL!!” it was refreshing to say the least.
re Jen A, i don’t think she could look like that ‘original’ photo.. because wouldn’t that mean every photo of her on the red carpet is photoshopped? i’d like to think PS isn’t used to that extent.
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YES! I’ve been seeing those ads in magazines too and keep thinking how nice it is to see the little lines around her eyes, pores etc. No one seems to have made a huge deal about it so why don’t more advertisers tone back the photoshopping a bit? It makes me MORE inclined to buy a product when I know hoe it looks on a normal face.
<3 Jessica Biel
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i’ve seen the advertisements you are talking about and i am a little ashamed to say (but thought i’d be honest to demonstrate a point) i would not be inclined to buy this product. i can’t help looking at these images and thinking ‘i’ve seen her look better’, and if a particular make-up product does not make a woman as beautiful and healthy as jessica look her best i just wouldn’t buy it.
while i realise the conclusion i have drawn is incredibly vain, it does demonstrate the way that the consumer has come to demand perfection from the images of models and celebrities that grace glossy covers and billboard and expect that the products they endorse should make us look similarly stunning.
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“Make no mistake, this is not about Jennifer or about any one magazine. It’s a story about how sick and twisted the system has become. And how it is doing untold, ongoing damage to women and girls”
Damn right!
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So why do you buy these trash rags then?
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those airbrushed photos totally depress me and sure i can tell myself they are photo-shopped, but they still leave me feeling like sh*t about myself.
so keep up the fight mia!
and i refuse to buy these mags now, i have voted with my wallet. i can spend ten bucks on something that doesn’t reduce my already low enough self image!
you know one side of this whole celebrity body thing i would like to see explored is: what does it really take to maintain that figure. i am aware that some people would be naturally slim eg. cameron diaz, SJP but some of those girls must work really hard to stay that way. i would love to know what they do each day and what they eat (or more to the point don’t eat) to stay that way.
anyway enough of my late nights ramblings!
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watch a show called The Truth About Size Zero… It’s a doco which shows the lengths an English tv presenter goes to (in terms of diet & exercise etc) to get sown to a US “size zero”.
She is a petite girl to start with (size 8 & quite short from memory), and has made this doco to show how unhealthy & unnatural it is to get down to – and maintain – a “size zero” figure. She also talks about how easy it is for the weight loss/dieting to become an obsession, and how easy it could be to develop an eating disorder…
Very interesting viewing & well worth seeing.
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Yes I think I have seen that – she got quite sick didn’t she? And felt herself starting to go a bit lala from it psychologically, like really starting to obsess about her weight and stuff and really getting into it?
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yeah, by the time she lost most of the weight, she was always so tired & grumpy, and was constantly stuffing her lines while trying to do her TV spots… her family (an nutritionist) were all trying to get her to stop the experiment cos they were worried that once she got down to the ‘target weight’ she would have become so obsessed with it that she wouldnt be able to go back to normal.
It was filmed in the UK – and the most confronting part of the show was when she went to LA… she met with a trainer there to put together an exercise regime for her.
The first visit (before starting the weight loss), she told this trainer she wanted to get to a size zero, and fit into this tiny black size-zero dress she had bought. instead of being a bit apprehensive (like the people in the UK had been – “you dont need to lose weight!”, “are you sure about this?”, “I dont think this is such a good idea” etc etc), this LA trainer was saying “Yeah, absolutely! I’ll help you get into shape! Lets lose those pounds!” I found it quite creepy.
She went back to LA a second time (near the end of the process) – when she was clearly underweight, run down, unhealthy-looking, and the same trainer was still ‘motivating’ her to lose more weight to fit into that dress. No concern for her health – just comments like “youre nearly there, lets shift those last few pounds! we’ll get you looking gorgeous & skinny in no time!”
bleargh.
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Thats right! Yeah and her hair and skin went to shit as well. It was pretty scary – both seeing what happened and also knowing that SO many people do that thinking it is normal and OK to do.
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I agree. I think we should encourage people to have a healthy and balanced diet and lifestyle and be accepting of their weight that goes along with that. Please be careful with that though and remember that some of us as rainbow points out really are just very small. I am a size 4-6 Australian, average height (not sure what size zero is?) and I guarantee you I have a decent appetite and eat plenty of food, I became a strict vegetarian at a young age which I think contributes to my low weight and I generally avoid sugar and processed foods when I can (not to avoid weight gain, you don’t want to see me on sugar), though I have a soft spot for Baklava (which is neither vegan nor low in sugar I know!). I am actually about to try and increase fats (from coconut cream) in my diet deliberately because I don’t think I am getting enough of them and I think they are healthy and important. I have tried to put on some weight before and found it difficult. Even at size 4-6 I have curves (not waif like or gaunt) and little muffins tops. I think my frame is very petite, I have always been small. So please be careful to remember that some of us really are just very small too. I don’t try to maintain a size 4-6 figure it just happens that I always am. Did I also mention that I tend to have a 7 day week of running around and being stressed about deadlines? I’ve been learning to meditate, maybe that will help me put on a couple of kilos. Or maybe we all need to be more accepting of our body weights, including us little ones.
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Mabol – i think a US size zero is an aus size 4?
So yes, while some women are absolutely this size naturally, the vast majority are not. For a ‘typical’ woman to get down to that size would take a massive (and for most women, VERY unhealthy) diet/exercise regime.
I think that’s what the Truth About Size Zero doco was trying to emphasise… Louise (the girl who made the doco) was an absolutely stunning, slim, beautiful, healthy girl – but was by no means as teeny weeny as the Hollywood size zero (think a skeletal-looking kate bosworth or lara flynn boyle). It’s one thing to naturally be that size, but a completely different kettle of fish for someone who isn’t natually that small to spend all of their time/energy crash-dieting and exercising like mad to lose weight & get down to that size, and then to try & maintain that size if thats not how your body is built!
I was also an aus size 6 in my 20s (not so much anymore!!) – and had the biggest appetite of anyone i knew – so i know exactly what you mean when you say people have to be more accepting of our natural body weights (whether they be on the larger or smaller side). I got plenty sick of people telling me to go eat a cheeseburger!
BUT – I believe there is usually an obvious line between a slim, ‘healthy’ figure (be it a size 4, 8 or 12), and an unnatural, unhealthily skinny figure that can only be maintained by a ridiculously strict diet & exercise regime. This doco showed, quite brutally, the transformation from one end of the spectrum to the other.
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I understand what you are saying Kylie, I just think it is important to always note that size 4-6 is unreasonable for ‘most’ women. I’m not a person who eats cheeseburgers all day and claims to stay size 4, my diet is usually very low in fat and sugar but It is not to try and maintain a low weight. I’m a bit worried that you think Kate Bosworth looks ‘skeletal’ because I just looked up some photos of her and I’m a pretty similar size (not quite as toned a tummy..)…and no its not fun to be continually told that your arms are freakily skinny or ‘you look like you could use a meal’, you’d think my ribs were protruding or something! I think the body acceptance movement is wonderful and I think we should absolutely look to doctors and other health professionals to guide us on what is a healthy weight for our individual frames and sizes. I absolutely agree with you that we should criticize a norm that expects women to conform to a size 4-6 body size. However I don’t think we should start saying outright that it is an unhealthy or abnormal size either. We make up our part of the diversity of women too. I may be a bit pedantic picking you up, because I think we are in pretty firm agreement, perhaps I’m being a little sensitive to seeing my body weight being labeled as abnormal and unhealthy without the ‘for most women’.
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Kate Bosworth did lose too much weight and was skeletal for a while there. I haven’t seen pics of her recently, but she was down to the Lara Flynn Boyle look of bones protruding all over the place, gaunt face.
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I don’t doubt that at all Kris2040, I don’t follow celebrities or watch t.v so I just looked up a couple a photos and she looked fine to me. Of course at other times she may have had a problem with being underweight. I tend to look at flesh and blood women in the actual world when thinking about these things, and often look at size 10-12 women and think what a beautiful desirable figure they have, so its a bit ironic if they are looking at size 4-6′s in magazines ect and desiring a smaller figure..
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That show made me realise that I unconsciously compare photos of myself to the ones in magazines. It happened at the start of her process when she was doing the before shots and she remarked at how she knows she’s not big but she does compare herself to photos of people in magazines.
It was such a huge moment for me because I used to look at my pictures and immediately see the flaws but now I take a step back and look at the whole picture and stop comparing myself to models and now I know I’m not ‘fat’.
PS: I’d like it to catch on that we stop calling people ‘fat’ and start calling them ‘feed efficient’. As in, our bodies are so good at using the food we eat and not wasting it with a high metabolism
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I hate the way women are portrayed in magazines as well buut unfortunately I love to check out current fashion and jewellery and they are the only way for me to do that (I live in the bush).
So as much as I would like to let my wallet do the talking I can’t without sacrificing the great aspects of magazines
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This is all part of a process now called Perception Management. These people are not selling a product per se they are giving their customers a Perception of something that’s unreal, not the product itself. Unfortunately people emulate what they see, but what they see in this case is not reality it is an illusion.
You may feel that this is a modern phenonomen, but it is an old, very old tool of industry. Plato said that the culture industry uses drama (and) it also used the fashion industry. What is Hollywood? One could argue it’s all in the name Hollywood, wood from the Holly tree or Holy Wood. It is a magic wand an illusion that is also prevalent in the fashion industry.
Great article Mia!
“Honesty is for the most part less profitable than dishonesty”
Plato
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I remember looking at my mum’s Vogue magazines when I was younger – I was about 9 or 10. I can distinctly remember studying the model’s faces – their skin seemed to be so perfect and then I would look at my skin with despair in the mirror because the skin on my face had a few freckles and it didn’t look perfect like the face(s) on the magazine. I continued to look at the photos of models in magazines with wonder, awe and also shame in my teens and 20s because I felt so flawed when I compared myself to them. The irony is that I’ve always had beautiful skin – people used to tell me that I was lucky to have such good skin but I never believed them because I could never get the skin on my face to look like the models in magazines. I’m 35 now and I still have great skin – it’s not as youthful as it was in my teens or 20s but I appreciate it now because in my 30s I became aware of digitally altered photos. I feel angry that I went through my tweens, teens and 20s feeling inadequate about my looks because I didn’t know photos were being digitally altered. All fashion and beauty publications should have some sort of mandatory statement like: Dear reader, please enjoy our publication’s photos but don’t compare yourself to the models in these photos because all of these photos have been digitally altered to fit-in with an impossible beauty ideal that models can’t even attain. Happy reading!
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I agree, and went through the same pattern of feeling repulsive, when I was a perfectly normal, nice-looking young woman. When I see beautiful, young women in their late teens and twenties wearing pancake make-up everyday, covering up their fresh-faced gorgeousness and feeling so imperfect they have to cover up (and, no, it’s not just to change a look, it’s to cover up “imperfections”) I feel so sad. I wish they could know how lovely they are now, instead of realising 15 years down the track.
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i love jen aniston.
it does seem like she is extremely controlling with her pics.
she looks so great.
that first pic looks like bad lighting rather than retouching (in my very humble and inexperienced opinion)
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I would just like to know why many celebs and many average people are so afraid of LOOKING their age or letting people see them as they really are. As the mother of 2 daughters, it really does concern me that they will be exposed to a relentless stream of ‘unreal’ looking women and I do worry whether this will impact on their ability to love themselves as they really are – for the way they look and the people they become. I don’t know about anyone else but I am so over this ‘culture of celebrity’ where what society appears to admire is famous people who let’s face it, are mostly saying a few lines for the big screen and what they wear on the red carpet or who they’ve made a sex tape with!. And who still protest that all they have to do to look good is wear sunscreen and a hat… I wish as a culture, we began to shift our focus of ‘role model’ to people who are actually making a difference to humanity….Dr Fiona Wood, Charlie Teo, women like Queen Rania Al-Abdullah or Cathy Freeman…truly amazing human beings who are doing so much more than making movies or going to parties.
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Mia, I’m wondering where the decision comes from to retouch photos – is it the celebrities and models themselves or is it the magazines?
I’ve read countless articles that criticize the use of photoshop but we continue to see it used everywhere and will continue to unless magazines simply stop printing retouched photos – rather than the occasional photo-shoot and article dedicated to showing “real women” and their “natural beauty”, which I see as nothing more than lip service.
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I think it may be time to accept the fact that images of celebrities and the like will be altered/adjusted/photoshopped/etc. and get over it.
It’s just how it is. It won’t be changing except for the few that have made a statement by not wearing makeup or being altered. and honestly, I don’t see that happening very often.
Really, who cares? Of course they want to look their best – it’s their job.
I’m sure there are people out there that seeing photoshopped images of celebrities changes their point of view and how they should look, but if we chose a different tactic to help them see their beauty is unique and can’t be airbrushed, maybe that’s something to bang on about.
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And those photos above are not even close to being a before and after. they are different photos altogether. Probably altered – both of them, but both separate shots.
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Princess Pomegranate, you say “Really, who cares?” well I do.
And you SHOULD.
Because we are all being lied to.
Which is bad enough if you are a grown woman. But what if you are 13? Or 9? What if the only images you see of celebrities are not them looking “their best” as you suggest but of people who don’t even exist?
Who CANNOT exist because they have been created on a computer.
Look deeper.
If we are, as a society, saying that even the most beautiful and famous women in the world, women who make their living in a large part because of their extraorinary looks, well they’re STILL not nearly attractive enough so we have to re-create them on a computer….well, that’s pretty screwed up, isn’t it?
So no, I will not get over it. And neither should you.
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Wow, I didn’t expect the hostility you just displayed in your retort to me, Mia. I was expressing my opinion, something I thought was encouraged here. Correct me if I’m wrong on that point.
Perhaps taking a different tact such as explaining to the younger generation that this is how things have been done and are still done and it’s not real. That real women are all over the place in every city, town, country and not to base their ideals and looks on something they see in magazines. Why can’t we look at it a different way? Why can’t we educate the people that are confused by the image editing instead of trying to get a whole industry to change their ways?
No offense Mia, but I don’t think you or your Body Image Advisory Board are going to get the multi-million dollar fashion/tabloid/photography/magazine industry/ies to change their ways. They make too much money and get too much attention. And do you think they are not enjoying this attention you and others are giving them by slamming them for editing? They are laughing all the way to the bank.
Every time you or someone else posts the pictures and stories such as this one, you are creating more clicks and/or sales for them too. So they get more attention – they don’t care if it’s positive attention or negative.
And you mentioned we are “all being lied to.” But are we? Really? That’s a bit naive, don’t you think? There is enough about this airbrushing and editing in the media right now that the people that are paying attention to the images in question are also hearing and reading what people like you are saying opposing the editing practice, so I doubt many people are thinking what they see is true to life.
IMO I say educate the masses in a different way. Don’t try to change people/the industry. I have been taught you can’t change others, so why not look at it differently?
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Hi Princess P,
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
Seems a little contradictory though, that you are telling Mia to just accept things as they are and get over it, and in fact that she is just creating more support for the way things are by posting on it. But on the other hand, you are acknowledging that Mia (and others) have succeeded in raising awareness that these images are created and barely resemble their original models? So surely there is a lot of value in what she is doing?
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I didn’t get hostility from Mia’s reply. I got a sense of passion. It’s good to be passionate about wanting to change a system that is so flawed.
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agree, redballoon and Eloise
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I can see and appreciate points that both Mia and Princess P have outlined. Unfotunatley, in a written context, when you cannot hear someone’s voice, or see their facial expressions, emotions like hostility and passion can merge somewhat. Particularly when CAPITAL LETTERS are used and SHORT . SHARP. scentences…
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One point is that though older girls and women can be more critical about these images, the damage has often already been done when they were younger and it’s hard to erase those attitudes/feelings once they are there. My daughter is 9 and can parrot my criticisms of pictures, but I’m not sure that these kinds of comments from me are enough to immunise her againts the power of those images and the fact that she can observe others’ reactions to them (both men and women).
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I agree with the first comment..I don’t think we’re exactly being LIED to.. almost everyone is aware that images in magazines are re-touched, aren’t they?
Anyway, as Princess Pomegranete said, we all see regular, un-retouched people of all shapes and sizes every day (friends, family, workmates, people in the street etc). So we know what normal or average looks like. Why would anyone go around thinking that it is the norm to look like models in magazines when the vast majority of people they see around them don’t look anything like that? When I was in my teens I didn’t like the way I looked but that mostly came to comparing myself to my friends and girls at school.
I don’t think its a bad thing to try to encourage magazines to do less re-touching…I’m just not sure it’s that important. Feeling less attractive or less intelligent or less lucky than other people is a part of life – everyone feels insecure about stuff sometimes, you just have to get over it. Anyone who feels terrible about themselves every time they see a picture of someone better-looking than them should probably just give themselves a stern talking-to e.g. – “well, appearance isn’t everything is it, plenty of people are admired and loved for inner qualities like intelligence, kindness etc etc – maybe its time I stopped worrying so much about whether models are prettier than me and get on with things!”
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I’m not hostile towards you…apologies if it came across that way. I’m just passionate about this and yes, angry, not at any individual but at a system that is screwing with us in the worst way.
There are a few things I need to correct you on. First of all, you say that every time me or someone else posts about the issue of digitally altered images and exposes the system, sales go up and the magazines are “laughing all the way to the bank”?
Actually they’re not. They’re really not. Magazine sales are down and slipping further for many reasons but a contributing factor is certainly the way many women like me are fed up and appalled by the plastic fakery they’re peddling to us in the name of ‘glamour’ and ‘fantasy’.
Women are voting with their wallets. I certainly am.
And no, I don’t believe it’s naive to point out that we’re being lied to and that that’s unacceptable.
We’re not talking about the colour of a dress or some bloodshot eyes being whitened. We’re talking about women who are already size 8 being carved into to make them look thinner.
We’re talking about the skin of 16 year old models being airbrushed to look flawless when it’s not.
And even with all my experience and trained eye, I’m not always aware when work has been done because technology is getting better and better.
So we have to make some noise.
And I will keep making it.
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*No offence Mia, that great thing you are trying to do with the magazines and stuff, that’s not gonna work y’know.* SARCASM INTENDED
Well, if everyone thought like that women still wouldn’t be able to vote and we’d still have the white australia policy!
Gees, when will people learn to open their minds and not just accept what is, but rail against it, try to change something?
And the article addressed your very point – the reason we can’t get over it and move on is that there is always a fresh mind to corrupt with false images of false idols, not to get all biblical. You say everyone knows, why make a big stink of it, well, everyone doesn’t know. You say there’s enough been said on the topic, that it’s all been covered and we should just leave it, well that’s what they said about AIDS awareness.
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Some big brands are listening – Dove did a huge campaign using real women and it was massively successful. There is a small backlash, very small admittedly.
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We are being lied to in so many areas in our lives. Consider what politicians do every day and particularly in the lead-up to elections. Consider what journalists do when they assemble and re-assemble facts or just play with words or ‘play the man’ to make their case. We are being lied to on blogs. We are being lied to when people gossip. We are being lied to when people leave comments on blogs (which are just really big porkies) to make thir case. Air-brushing or digital make-overs is lying with pictures but lying with words has been going on for a very long time.
I will put up my hand and say I care and that is why I have become increasingly careful about what I read or what I listen to and what I accept as the gospel truth.
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Look at her hips, they’re half the size on the magazine cover. And Jennifer is tiny anyway!
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Blimey, 40 yr old women have “some” wrinkles. That made me laugh, I’ve had “some” wrinkles since my 20′s…..f*** I missed out on the noice wrinkle free till your 40′s skin!!! Never smoked, don’t drink and stayed out the sun most of the time. I guess I’m just shit outta luck…..
By the way I read the article about Julianne Moore in WW today, saying she’s never had botox or cosmetic surgery. She turns 50 this year, and apparently, for a red head with freckles she has no wrinkles! WTF In the mag she looks 30 if that. Oh God if only I wasn’t on a sugar detox, I’d stuff myself with wrinkle causing chocolate……hahhaahhbhahah
On this note, I’d love to know your skin routine Mia, as your skin looks gorgeous in your interview with KRudds daughter.
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Actually this is my post, don’t know why it went all anonymous on me, my name just disappeared!
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I was wearing some foundation but my skin is good at the moment (goes bad at other times of the month).
I will do a post in the future about my skin routine and ask about everyone else’s because I’m sure mine could be better…..
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My Mum was a redhead and she had great skin even in her early 60′s. She told me that she started using skincare products in her 20′s because she burnt easily and had dry skin, so she was always using moisturiser, keeping out of the sun, and using sunscreen every day. She always said she wanted to look younger than her years, and she did!
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My whole family has uber pale skin and I swear my Grandma and Mum look 20 years younger than they are. While everyone else their age was coating themselves in baby oil and sunbaking they were slathered in the highest SPF sunscreen they could find and carrying black umbrellas just so they wouldn’t look like lobsters.
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I’d love to see a photo of your wrinkle free 60 yr old mum, just so I know it is possible that Julianne Moore has absolutely none!!!! Blessings to all of you with divine young skin…….I accept mine, wrinkles n all and thankfully haven’t been yelled at for being too young…but maybe just once it would be noice hehe
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This gives me hope but I am still confussed, I am like Julianne Moore. I have just turned 30 and still look around 18-20 (well thats what people tell me) I have two boys, I have never been happy with the way I look, I actually hate it.
This shows how warped society’s view on how we ‘should’ look. Everyone is obbessed about how we look and looking younger or wrinkle free but everyone gives me such a hard time about actually looking younger. Its so hurtful.
I am constantly judged, everyday someone will say something on how I look. Comments like I dont look like a mother or old enough to be a mother, I have been abused in the street for being a ‘teenager’ having kids, I have had women at mothers group make comments that they did not want to assoicate with someone who has had a children so young.
And many other parts of my life is affected by it but I am so over it, I want to just people to take me for me and look past my non-aging skin. I have always eatten healthy I also take off my make up before bed but when it comes down to genes and we should be able to support each other no matter who me ‘look’.
So when I am 50 I might finally look 30!
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melb, I say enjoy it while it lasts!
I looked ten years younger at 30 too. I have naturally blonde hair, a turned up nose, and a heart shaped face… people often asked me if I was the nanny. It used to shit me no end.
However darling, guess what? Now I’m 35, I am starting to see the ravages of ageing. Minimal I concede, but noone ever stops me in the street anymore telling me I look too young to have big children!
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Thanks Heidi
Well you have been there for sure, we are the same but I have brown hair. I certainly see my own lines on my face but for some reason no one else does. Maybe being a bit shorter doesn’t help. lol Who knows I am sure in 5 years time it will all down hill.
I know people are pretty happy to tell me how they feel – good and bad. I was so shocked when the lady had a full on go at me. At the time I was pregnant with my second son, I was shopping with my 2 year old son. We were just looking at something in the shops and this lady next to us said something smart like ‘shouldn’t you be at school not making babies’, at the time I was 28. I was excuse me…shocked and then she just flipped at me raging on. Crazy women lol! Another time a guy said he didn’t want his tax paying money going to a single mother (I am married) with two children oh the nerve…lovely hey.
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my name went sorry but its me above sorry heidi
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To me it doesn’t look like either are real! Such a shame that neither side gives respect to the discerning viewer.
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It’s ironic that it’s Jennifer Aniston at the centre of this controversy as for years I’ve raged against the fact that her ‘real’ chin is rarely ever used in shots. It often has a little ‘shaved off – as does Reese Witherspoon’s. It’s their chins that help make them uniquely beautiful – not just beautiful.
When I first started work in magazines I was amazed when an art director told me that a famous Australian supermodel always had her images photoshopped before we saw them. Her heavily sun-damaged chest was always blemish-free and fabulous.
We’re not fembots – we’re all unique – shouldn’t that be celebrated rather than photoshopped out?
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My girlfriend works as a retoucher with an Australian ad agency and she retouches and whittles away centimetres from the figure of a very famous Australian supermodel who is renown for her healthy living and glowing skin.
It just blows me away that even the genetically blessed who are unblemished, long legged and even skinned are still deemed to be imperfect.
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YES, bloody hell, yes, a thousand times, yes!
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The only thing wrong with the “untouched” photo is that it isn’t a particularly good angle. Jennifer Aniston’s chin is down and she’s frowning.
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Too frowny? Bad angle?
Here is a reason so many pictures are retouched. Such a gorgeous woman, but people still see the need to be negative about her. Multiply that by a few million magazine readers and a celebrity probably becomes quite paranod.
Start grassroots – stop criticizing people in magazinses!
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Everyone takes bad photos. Don’t you R?
Many people (celebrities and non celebrities) have a right to say they don’t want a particular photo published, for example, if you have your eyes closed or you think your nose looks funny or the story is a positive one and doesn’t require a photo of you frowning!!
I think Jennifer Aniston is a very pretty girl but like all of us not all her photos turn out well.
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Jessica said it beautifully.
I think if images are altered they need to have a clear ‘digitally altered image’ label on them at the very least!
No wonder so many women have a distorted view of beauty.
Mia, I’d love to see a post where you show us how to spot digitally altered images…a before/during/after sequence would be fantastic (if you had permission to use the images), I’d love to get the eye that you have as I can never tell and am sick of thinking everyone bar me has perfect doll skin!! Sigh!
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I agree, it would be great to know how to spot the ‘signs’ of digitally altered images. Maybe you could convince a friend to let you photograph them and then have that photo altered? Hell, I’d email you a photo of me and let you go your hardest in Photoshop!! It’s for the sake (and sanity) of females everywhere!!
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Yes that would be a cool post! Great idea, Claudia. I’d love to know what to look for.
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Here is an article you might be interested in – http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/my-life-as-an-image-retoucher – The before and after shots here – http://www.thepunch.com.au/articles/how-old-is-this-woman/ – are quite remarkable/alarming.
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Thanks so much for the links, very interesting!
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