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Lauren Dubois

 

 

 

 

It’s important, when speaking to a politician, that you have a basic understanding of their language; Pollinese. It’s similar to English. You’ll recognise the words coming out of their mouths. But you may not understand their point, the context or what we are supposed to take from it.

They do occasionally speak English (which can be jarring to the system). When Bob Brown said on Tuesday morning “Eric Abetz is the most disliked senator in this place”, it was pretty clear he meant; “I don’t like Eric Abetz”.

Such moments of candor are rare. More commonly, they speak fluent Pollinese.

Journalists do their best to interpret this for you. We paraphrase. We choose the most coherent quotes we can. But here’s a quick cheat sheet to help you learn the Pollinese basics:

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“Other Siding” (The art of turning the question into an opportunity to attack the other side.)

Journalist: Minister, isn’t it true that your policy is deeply flawed and will cost us billions of dollars?

Politician: Mr Abbott would rip $20 billion out of the wallets of mums and dads…

Translation: I don’t want to admit that our policy is a bit shady, so now I will divert your attention by telling you that, even if our policy is crap, the alternative is Tony Abbott, and he is crapper.

“Gold Fishing” (Saying jack-all, while you try to formulate an answer. Their mouths are moving but nothing is coming out.)

Journalist: Prime Minister, I am asking you a very tough question with lots of details and specifics because I am very clever and did a lot of research.

Prime Minister: Well, let me just say, that’s a very good question, thank you for that question, and in relation to that question, I would say, …

Translation: Ummmmmm….

“Bait and Switch” (Hearing the question, not liking it, ignoring it and answering the question you’ve asked yourself in your mind so you can say what you want to say.)

Journalist: Senator, I understand you’re under investigation for trying to run a dodgy cupcake business using asylum seekers for cheap labour.

Senator: Look, the government is passing some very important legislation in the parliament today…

Translation: I refuse to answer your question, but no one has asked me about this legislation, so I’m going to tell you about it anyway, because then I can get out of here and get back to my cupcakes.

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Journalist: The government says this policy will save billions of dollars and thousands of lives, how could you possibly oppose it?

Opposition spokesperson: Well it won’t, that’s a lie. And can I just say that the government treats the truth like an ex-lover who dumped you over twitter. They hate it.

Translation: I don’t care how good the policy is. I hate their stinking guts.

There are times however, when we struggle to decipher the pollinese.

Labor MP Gai Brodtmann, was trying to talk to the media about superannuation, on Wednesday morning. Over the next eight years, the compulsory super contribution will rise from 9% to 12%. The Government has been cheerily congratulating itself for the hike, which is part of the Mining Tax legislation.

There’s been some criticism though, that businesses will have to pay for the rise. Employers will receive various tax cuts and incentives (as a result of the mining tax) but ultimately; the money comes out of their pockets.

Ms Brodtmann got herself, and us, very confused. Here’s a snippet:

Brodtmann: What we’ve got is benefits to millions of Australians in terms of superannuation, boosts and also tax cuts to small business

Journalist: But that superannuation isn’t coming from the miners, it’s coming from those small businesses.

Brodtmann: Those discussions will be held over time once it’s phased in.

Journalist: What does that mean, sorry?

Brodtmann: The discussions on the superannuation and how that is actually introduced will be discussed over time and phased in over time. And discussed in the course of enterprise agreements.

Journalist: So you’re suggesting there might be another alternative to the small businesses paying that themselves?

Brodtmann: No…..what?

Journalist: Just to clarify, the governments already flagged when the super minimum guarantee will be going up. What are these discussions that you say have to take place?

Brodtmann: Discussion in terms of about how the superannuation is going to be introduced and phased in over time

Journalist: That’s already been flagged

Brodtmann: That’s right

Journalist: So what are these discussions you refer to?

Brodtmann: The discussions between employees and employers.

Journalist: But if the employers have to pay it, what are these discussions that you refer to?

Brodtmann: No, the discussions between how it’s actually, how it’s going to be introduced. Those discussions need to be held between employees and employers

Journalist: But eventually they’ll need to pay it.

Brodtmann: The discussions need to be held between employees and employers.

Journalist: But do you think these discussions could lead to changes to the legislation?

Brodtmann: I’m not aware of that.

Journalist: So why would small business need to have discussions though? To still discuss the policy.

Brodtmann: No, I’m talking about… No, let’s just, let’s leave it at that. Yep,  next question.

Journalist: We’re just curious as to what you’re talking about that’s all…..

If you can interpret this for us, that’d be great.

Lauren Dubois is Mamamia’s Canberra-based political contributor. You can follow her on Twitter here

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31 Comments so far

  1. faerygodmother

    Seriously, you’re awesome.

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  2. mumof 2

    ba ha ha haha how infuriating are they, speak straight down the line dammit i understand my 2 year old better

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  3. Anonymous

    Happy to interpret the Brodtmann “answers”. What she meant was “I have been handed a cheat sheet with a standard answer to these questions and it is so obviously false and I am so pathologically stupid that it is simply not possible to answer without sounding like a complete idiot or, alternatively, admitting that our message is completely false and deliberately designed to deceive. Now, can you please ask me a question about cuddly puppies”. Hope this helps.

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    • laurend

      While I wouldn’t say stupid (harsh!), it is true that backbenchers are given their lines to say when they come out to doors. It helps them stay on message, but it also trips them up when they aren’t 100% across the issue or when they’re not quite sure how to answer the question in a way that doesn’t make the government look bad. This isn’t the first time someone’s confused themselves, but it’s probably the worst I’ve seen.

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  4. katherine anne

    I absolutely loved this post Lauren. Highlight of my day. :)

    Just on “gold fishing” as a speech technique, it’s interesting that the best political speakers seem to avoid it. For example, Barack Obama (whether you love him or hate him) is a brilliant orator and whenever asked a difficult question, pauses for a moment and gives a well considered answer. He never jumps in too quickly or uses too many words to fill the silence.

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    • laurend

      That’s really interesting katherine anne. I hadn’t noticed that before with Obama, but I’ll be looking out for it from now on! I wonder what that says about the differences between him and our pollies? Putting more thought in? Takes him longer to come up with something? Or is it just a style thing?

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  5. Elle

    Wow, it’s like trying to have a logical discussion with a 4 year old. Actually that may be an insult to 4 year olds.

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  6. Stephanie

    v helpful. thank you.

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  7. Madam

    Well done Lauren, I am still laughing……….but love that I now have some idea as to what all these foolish people running this country are saying.
    By the way what a beautiful fresh faced young lady you are !!!! That itself is an inspiration coming out of Canberra.

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  8. Gracie

    Ahh Lauren, you just gave me a fabulous Thursday afternoon laugh!!

    Keep it up!!

    PS: I have MAJOR hair envy- your fringe is perfect!

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  9. Laura

    Just want to say that I love your regular posts, Lauren. It’s so interesting to read an insider’s candid perspective :)

    Also – you are gorgeous!

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  10. jennafelicity

    I’m really, really enjoying your posts Lauren. I constantly try and tell myself to switch over to the news instead of Friends to keep more updated with what’s going on with the nation but alas, I am lazy, and always tell myself “next week” I’m going to read up on issues X and Y.

    But I love that I can get an easy-to-understand, interesting and informative snapshot of politics from you on this site!

    Keep it up :)

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  11. Xanthe

    Gold!
    Love that interview with Brodtman – not sure how dinkum it is, but it’s hilarious.
    Reminds me SO much of John Clarke and his sidekick whose name escapes me!
    (“That’s a very good question.” “Well, can you please give me a very good answer…?”

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    • Anonymous

      Great article, Lauren.

      John Clarke and Brian Dawe are brilliant and it’s just like one of their “interviews”. Very funny!

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      • Tulipgirl

        Oh why does my iPad keep showing me as Anonymous while I think I’m signed in? Maybe it’s signing me out!

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    • laurend

      Xanthe, I can promise you it is 100% fair dinkum, because I was one of the journalists (where it says journalist, there was actually three of us asking those questions. I think about the first four or so are me). And trust me, we were as disbelieving as you :)

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  12. Lulu

    Canberra politicians sometimes complain that Kerry O’Brien, Tony Jones, or whoever was too mean to them.

    They don’t know how lucky they are that they never had to face Jeremy Paxman in a persistent mood.

    http://drmatthewashton.com/2011/03/11/great-mistakes-in-politics-no16-michael-howards-interview-with-jeremy-paxman/

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  13. An Idle Dad

    Gold.

    Of course, while that conversation is appauling, you’ve basically listed several handy word tricks that no doubt, inexperienced politicians from both sides are now being drilled on.

    We won’t see the same mistake from Brodtmann, I’m guessing.

    Experience politicains don’t have that mistake: Tony Abbott would have ‘other sided’, Julia would have ‘bridged’.

    Brodtmann tried to answer a question without saying ‘Yes’. Though I’m confused why she wouldn’t say “Yes, and that is offset by the tax cut’ (because isn’t that the point of the tax cut?)

    I think you’ve missed bait and switch’s ugly cousin ‘soundbiting’ where the only thing you say is the soundbite you want to appear on TV that night, regardless of the question. Kevin Rudd was very, very good at it.

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    • laurend

      Idle Dad, I think we won’t even be hearing from Brodtmann for a while ;) What I think she was trying to avoid saying was “Those discussions between employer and employee will be a negotiation on whether that employee misses out on a pay increase that year because the money needs to go into their super instead”

      And with the soundbiting… did you know that there’s some research that suggests the public needs to hear a phrase 10 times before it sinks in. (for example, the phrase “clean energy future”) But for the media to report that phrase 10 times, they’ll say it to us 100 times. So spare a thought for us!! When you hear that soundbite, it’s been hammered into us all day long until we relent and put it in the story.

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  14. Trog

    Nice piece, Lauren.

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  15. Lauren Miller

    Good Lord, that last exchange between Ms Brodtmann & the journo was like “who’s on first?” …. Lauren you must be a genius to be able to decipher any of it! Thanks for the insights. :)

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  16. Cazz

    I can interpret it for you Lauren. Their lies by omission, half truths and barefaced arrogance have finally caught up with them. When I heard this interview, for the first time in years I felt a glimmer of respect for journalists. I also felt relief that maybe our Media Army is finally going to protect us and take up the fight.

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    • laurend

      Um… thank you? ;)

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      • Cazz

        Well done, Lauren. The fact that she was challenged and exposed instead of being allowed to lie and deceive is a credit to you and the other journalists. Too often the press gallery think of politics as merely a game but it affects all of us and I know many people who are genuinely afraid for their jobs and businesses. You can be proud of this interview.

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  17. Tara

    As a Canberra girl who is often mystified by Pollie speak, I think it’s great to have such a fresh insight into what goes on up there on the hill! I’m really enjoying your posts Lauren, keep them coming :)

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  18. Amanda1605

    Love your work, Lauren!
    The example with the cupcakes had me chuckling on the tram:)

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  19. sydneyrose

    Well that’s a worry; superannuation is certainly very complex, but the bit where the employer will have to pay the extra SGC when it is introduced is blindingly obvious. I think that Brodtmann should have said that the cost to the employer will be offset by the tax cuts. #shakingmyheadatpollieincompetence#

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    • laurend

      You’re right sydneyrose, it should have been very easy to explain, but to say it plainly, she would have had to admit that the most likely scenario is: Super goes up, employers need to pay it, so employees will need to renegotiate their salary package and the most likely outcome is that employees will end up earning less. Because rather than, say, a pay rise, that extra money will need to go into your super instead of your bank account. – And the message people will hear is “I will earn less money each week because of the mining tax” – and they don’t want that message out there.

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  20. Kristalilly

    I know i should be commenting on the article but good lord Lauren, your hair and make up in this photo are amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just thought you should know :)

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