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Julian Assange

 

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by JAMILA RIZVI

Personally, I go backwards and forwards on WikiLeaks.

First and foremost, a sound political system requires strong checks and balances on those who wield power. And in Australia, our judiciary, our parliament and freedom of the press are all a part of that.

WikiLeaks is fundamentally a whistleblowing organisation and protection of the rights of whistleblowers is another critical element of those checks and balances. So the idea of those protections being in any way compromised, doesn’t sit well with me.

On the other hand, Wikileaks make no judgement about the internal and confidential documents they release. They are not about calling those in power out for any particular purpose or cause or political agenda, or indeed for some kind of greater good. WikiLeaks is about transparency for transparency’s sake.

And I truly believe that good international diplomacy does require a level of confidentiality to be effective and that WikiLeaks has quite likely jeopardised the safety of people’s lives by compromising that.

But there is one thing I don’t go backwards and forwards on. And that is Julian Assange.

Julian Assange is what my mates and I would call a jerk.

Now that may not sound tough enough for this international man of mystery, worshiped by some, regaled as a criminal by other, labelled as a terrorist in some countries, hailed as a hero in others.

But for my mates – that is about as bad as it gets. Just as being a ‘good bloke’ is the universal male label for awesome and is apparently a sound defence to all criticism – being a jerk is the female signal for: do not waste your time.

Yesterday, Wikileaks founder Julian Assange took to the balcony of the Ecuadorian Embassy in London and delivered an Evita-style speech, bemoaning his fate and calling for an end to the US ‘witch hunt’ against him and WikiLeaks.

It was yet another all-about-me moment, as Assange stood above his adoring fans, looking down benevolently as he spared them a few moments of his precious time.

The man clearly considers himself to be some kind of demi-god. But what for? He doesn’t stand for a cause, those cables weren’t released for any grand purpose. He isn’t saving lives, he isn’t defending the oppressed – he’s just trying to look after his own arse.

For the past two months, Assange has been hiding out in London’s Ecuadorian embassy. He has been granted political asylum in Ecuador, following a decision by the British courts ordering him to be extradited to Sweden where he faces sexual assault allegations.

As yet, Assange has been unable to travel to Ecuador though, as the British Government have refused to grant him safe passage. Assange claims that the sexual assault charges are trumped up, designed simply to get Assange to Sweden (where he could then be extradited to the United States to face charges over Wikileaks.)

David Penberthy summed up Assange’s jerk status succinctly and brilliantly yesterday for News Limited:

The… problem of course with Assange involves his alleged behaviour as a human being. I say alleged because there should be no prejudgment of the sexual assault allegations brought against him by the police in Sweden. He is innocent until proven guilty.

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David Penberthy

This simple point of law seems lost on Assange and his blind army of activist supporters who argue not that he is innocent until prove guilty but innocent full stop, and that the whole thing is some evil conspiracy by the military-industrial complex to destroy him.

Over the past month we have seen Assange pervert the concept of asylum in order to dodge scrutiny for his alleged personal conduct. Historically people have sought asylum on the basis of being persecuted for their political views, their activism, their religion.

In terms of the charges he is facing, Assange is not being persecuted on political grounds, but prosecuted because he is allegedly a sex offender. A prisoner of conscience he ainĄŻt; rather, just another bloke who allegedly cannot grasp the simple concept that when a woman says no, she means no.

AssangeĄŻs decision to camp out inside the Ecuadorian Embassy shows total contempt and disrespect for the process of law in Sweden. EcuadorĄŻs decision to grant him asylum makes that nation look like the batty tin-pot South American republic in Woody AllenĄŻs film Bananas.

As the Far Left of politics jump boldly on the pro-Assange bandwagon, I say this: when else would the far left, supposedly fierce defenders of women’s rights, be so willing to dismiss allegations of sexual assault?

Sure this is an international argument of epic proportions. It goes to the very heart of our beliefs about freedom of the press, transparency of information and the way we do business globally. But it’s also about two women who claim that they have been treated appallingly and a man who will do anything he can not to face up to those allegations.

What allegedly happened to those women has become a side issue, just an added bit of intrigue, important only because of the role these charges play in a larger dispute. But for those women, it’s not a side issue. If their claims are correct then Assange is a jerk of even greater proportions than we already know.

So defend Wikileaks all you like. Let’s have the debates and the arguments about whether or not this information has helped or hindered our world. But let’s not hold up Assange as some kind of martyr to a great cause.

He’s just a guy who loves the attention, has allegedly assaulted two young women and has recklessly compromised peaceful international relations along the way. I repeat: jerk.

Political disclosure: Jamila is a member of the Australian Labor Party and has previously worked for the Rudd and Gillard Governments. You can read more about Wikileaks by looking at our cheatsheet here.

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  1. lisa

    I believe Julian Assange is quite an impressive looking person, i would defently sit on his face, if you know what i mean ;)
    But he is a terrorist and should be shot by the Americans, they have every right to want to kill him.

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  2. whatever

    So… Let me get this straight. After all that… All we can possibly hope to glean from this issue is that one patently unread individual on cyberspace happens to be of the trite opinion that Julian Assange is simply a ‘Jerk’; based upon an a subjective and completely arbitrary forgone conclusion that he *might* be guilty of rape (charges of which are hearsay at best), and that he merely loves to seek attention for the hell of it all. How positively vapid of you!

    And to add insult to injury, this doltish opinion informs you that somehow Julian Assange is doing the world an injustice by simply exposing the truth, albeit risking his life to do so, simply in the interest of full disclosure. I’m on the fence about Assange, personally. Sure he’s a demagogue, but thats kind of the point. He and Wikileaks require “attention”. At any rate, so the saying goes, “Intelligent people discuss ideas. Fools discuss how people should behave.” Wikileaks as an idea which has been made manifest by Mr. Jerk is a less-nebulous subject however, and its inherent benefits to the world are to many logical individuals, axiomatic. Mr. Jerk can’t be held to apologise to those of you who can’t, or won’t, acknowledge the deeper function of the Wikileaks enterprise.

    To the contrary of a Wikileaks story, this article itself hardly qualifies as news. Even as a blog it fails to be compelling beyond the banal qualities as pointed out above. Its rather an unabashedly dull display of someone whose intellectual integrity barely rivals that of common garden slug. Asinine at best. I do hope articles like these don’t serve as the basis of anyone else’s trivial opinion that Assange is a just ‘jerk’ on face value, and i’d extend that wish to those people who might have a high enough IQ to be able to look beyond the shallow illations of the press and judge Wikileaks for its true worth as something that stands against tyranny.

    Go and talk to the Tunisians, who revolted against their kleptocratic rulers, in part thanks to Wikileaks cables.
    As for your articles. In the future, don’t shy away from first informing yourselves before you attempt to inform the masses. And then please try to do so without pandering to vanity..

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  3. Hila

    I think everyone who is blithely making light of the rape allegations against Assange should go and read this: http://www.penny-red.com/post/29989130545/its-trigger-warning-week

    Also, it’s perfectly possible to support Wikileaks, and what it represents, without turning Assange into some demi-god or hero. Hero-worshipping a person is coming from the position of blind, uncritical thought – and isn’t that position the exact opposite of what Wikileaks is supposed to stand for? It should be possible to talk about both Assange and Wikileaks without resorting to uncritical and polarised positions.

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    • B

      Thanks for posting this it was a very interesting read. Makes me realize just how many men do rape women and also how many women rape women. Hell I even remember reading an article in Cosmo or Cleo years ago advising women to wake up their partners, one night stands, etc with a blow job in the morning.

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      • B

        But on that, you are also assuming that what has been leaked to the media about the rape allegations are in fact correct. In light of the information from the Pentagon that they were planning to set assange up with a sex scandal that’s where the waters get murky.

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    • FNB

      I think perhaps you should take a read of this if you honestly think the rape allegations are for real.
      http://theloudmouths.org/2012/08/29/dont-call-me-a-rape-apologist/

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  4. V

    Why do you have to continuously delete my comments MM? Only because I have the audacity to voice my concerns to you regarding ethical conduct?

    I’d like to politely insist that you restore the comments using the cache file:

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:www.mamamia.com.au%2Fnews%2Fjulian-assange-wikileaks%2F

    I think that is in your best interests to do so, to restore democracy, so to speak. It’s unfair. Are we all to believe you that the webpage just went missing and conveniently you lost all the comments? Where the majority were against the author of the article and MM, voicing concerns of bias, overt subjectivity, and misrepresentation of facts and your practice at MM. I think, in order to avoid accusations that you did this on purpose, you should restore the comments. It’s not that hard. Just copy and paste. Simple.

    Please do not delete this comment. It’s unfair. I’m voicing my concerns and asking you, the media, to act appropriately. You are not above reproach.

    Thanks.

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    • jamilarizvi

      Hi V

      We simply don’t have the resources to individually restore each of the old comments under everyone’s log ins. We’re a small team, with staff away at the moment – it’s simply not possible.

      Thanks for posting the link to a cached version – that’s great and readers can follow it if they want to see them all.

      We’ve been pretty upfront about the post going missing. We gave readers a temporary space to keep raising their views while we sorted it all out and have since restored the post. I’m pretty comfortable that everyone understands the whole missing-post-debacle was in no way intentional.

      Jamila

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      • Meow

        Hi Jamila, after all the discussion the other night, all the information that I’m sure you didn’t know about previously, have you at all changed your view on Assange. Is he still a jerk to you?

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        • jamilarizvi

          Hi Meow

          I always learn something from the MM commenters. Never fail. There is always someone with information I wasn’t aware of or with a viewpoint I hadn’t considered.

          Definitely learned more about the Wikileaks issue than I did and it’s helped shape my opinion but sorry to say, still of the Jerk viewpoint :-)

          Jamila x

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          • wow

            Don’t you think you need to research the issue BEFORE writing an article on it, so that you can voice an informed opinion??? Wow.

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            • Meow

              It’s certainly disappointing that the very subjective and superficial “jerk” was the tone of the article. As I said on the original article whether he is a jerk or not is irrelevant and actually quite insulting to most of the readers intelligence – as shown by readers responses. It’s a pity that all of the intelligent, well informed information and opinions offered up by the readers were unable to move the Mamamia team away from “jerk .”

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            • Emma in Melbourne-land

              *Sigh* I know MM is a small team, but this is not a small website. As pointed out time and time again, this site gets a huge amount of traffic and the number is growing.

              Instead of excuses I’d love to see the team take ownership and admit their mistakes. The decision to publish this post was a mistake. It was poorly researched and insulting to the intelligence of MM readers. Fortunately the vast majority of readers called MM out on that.

              Writing an article about an issue as complex as Assange/Wikileaks demands more than a ‘you’re a jerk, so there’ opinion. I usually love Jamila’s work, so don’t take this as an attack Jamila, because I think you’re awesome and a great asset to the MM team. But if MM is going to tackle issues like this they should really seek out a writer who will do justice to the topic. Many were named in the original comments, so don’t say “we welcome all submissions….feel free to send us an email…”

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  5. inc.

    @Natalia

    Could my post be dug out of spam again please. I reposted it last night.

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    • inc.

      um, do I take that as a no?

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      • inc.

        If I were the cynical type I would be starting to think that polite but dissenting opinions are not as welcome around here as you like to claim. Sad really.

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        • inc.

          Ok, @jamilarizvi I’ll call it quits now. The claims that the saga of the missing post was all an unfortunate technical incident seem a little hollow and disingenuous to me at the moment.

          The sub-title for Mamamia is now ‘what everyone’s talking about’, it used to be ‘join the conversation’. I hadn’t realised the switch marked such a change in attitude. Personally I preferred the conversation over the spectacle.

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  6. Anonymous

    Claire
    This is a poorly researched article and I find the lack of acknowledgment of the seriousness of an Australian citizen requiring asylum in another country extremely offensive. Assange has surrendered himself to the Swedish justice system on multiple occasions. He spent a month in Sweden for interviews and they let him go. Since then Assange has offered to be interviewed in the UK when the Swedes took new interest in the case and they refused.

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    August 20, 2012 at 09:30 pm
    Claire
    I cannot believe this; my original comment has been heavily edited. I posted more facts about the situation and they have been deleted. Mamamia you have lost this reader for good. You have no right to ever claim to care about human rights when you are posting such bias articles and censoring the truth about the persecution of a fellow Australian.

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    August 20, 2012 at 09:35 pm
    Anonymous
    I agree, my comments are not going through, because I questioned the author’s journalism, and Mamamia for posting the article. I then wrote a comment saying they had done this, and how ironic it was, and that was deleted to. There was nothing rude or abusive about them; in fact, what I have been reading from commenters about other commenters has been very rude but that is allowed???

    What message are you trying to send Mamamia, and don’t you think it’s a little ironic considering the subject matter of the article?

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  7. Anonymous

    S
    Mamamia, it’s time you asked an informed SUPPORTER of Wikileaks and Julian Assange to write an article.
    It ‘s obvious that the vast majority of readers commenting are supporters and are getting really tired of the way this hugely important issue is being written about on this website.

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    August 20, 2012 at 09:19 pm
    Mia
    We are always open to submissions.
    nat@mamamia.com.au

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    August 20, 2012 at 09:25 pm
    Anonymous
    Mia, I keep being told my comment is spam, but it isn’t, I assume you have some sort of filter for certain words or something?

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    August 20, 2012 at 09:46 pm
    S
    Many times I’ve seen similar requests on this website, followed by a ‘We will try to find someone.’
    You are the one with all of the media/journalism contacts here. Why aren’t you willing to balance out the negative articles with one written by a supporter of Wikileaks/Assange? Isn’t presenting both sides of an extremely important issue important to you?
    I used to love coming to this website…but I just feel so let down by so many articles recently.
    Your website isn’t linked to any major news/opinion websites in the States, is it? (Meaning, you don’t want to upset the readership there?)

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    August 20, 2012 at 09:56 pm
    Anonymous
    Couldn’t have said it better myself. By simply saying “we’re open to submissions” is basically like saying, “well, you write one!”. It shouldn’t be left for us to come to you, it should be in your standard code of ethics to present both sides. That was rude Mia.

    You’ve lost another reader, MamaMia.

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  8. Anonymous

    Jamila,

    I find it very ironic that you say Assange “doesn’t stand for a cause”. But Mamamia News says this on their Wikileaks cheat sheet:

    “Their goal is to bring important news and information to the public.”

    and.. “One of their most important activities is to publish original source material alongside news stories so readers and historians alike can see evidence of the truth.”

    Interesting, you failed to even research this site and past articles!

    Yet you say: “They are not about calling those in power out for any particular purpose or cause or political agenda, or indeed for some kind of greater good.”

    Actually, by having a website dedicated to leaks, in order to keep people properly informed, to question the notion of the “free press”, and to show the horrors and contradictions behind various regimes is pretty politically motivated, don’t you think? Wikileaks believes in a greater good, absolutely! Read the WL website: it’ll actually tell you in their own words.

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  9. Anonymous

    How convenient for you, having lost all those comments where the majority of commenters disagreed with you and Mamamia? Luckily though, I had saved the webpage because I had a hunch something like his would happen.

    Edit: I am going to copy and paste my comments and replies now.

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  10. romy

    The Guardian posted an interesting editorial:
    “But there is much else that doesn’t stack up in Mr Assange’s presentation of his case. This champion of radical transparency hasn’t helped Swedish prosecutors with their inquiries. There was his remark about people being jailed for exercising freedom of speech, “There is unity in the oppression. There must be absolute unity and determination in the response”, and yet taking shelter in a country that, according to Reporters Without Borders, shut down six radio stations and two TV stations in just one fortnight this June.”

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    • Anonymous

      Interesting. Not sure I’d be listening too much to a media organisation that broke it’s contract with Wikileaks. There are issues going on between The Guardian v Assange so take anything the Guardian writes on the topic with a huge scoop of salt. There are a lot more balanced media outlets to listen to in regards to this case. Read the Rolling Stone interview if you’re looking for something that is a bit more interesting and easy to read in relation to Assange.

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      • Liz

        Are you saying you don’t agree with The Guardian’s point that Ecuador has a less than perfect record when it comes to freedom of speech?

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        • Guest

          An Assange apologist will overlook anything in the way of their hero worship.

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          • Anonymous

            An Assange denouncer will overlook everything in the way of their hero condemnation.

            It’s not worship, it’s called doing a lot more research than the average person and forming an opinion on that, so that you actually have a right to voice your opinion in the first place. If anyone did the amount of research some of these “Assange” apologists, they’d change their views, if they let their ego pass.

            I just love how you’re branded an “apologist” or “hero worshipper” just because you’ve bothered to think critically and not take everything like it’s the truth.

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            • Guest

              I do wonder why people feel the need to tell you they are a ‘critical thinker’ and have done so much more research than the average person, regardless of the fact that they don’t know anything about you, that if you happen to disagree with them, you have ‘no right to voice your opinion’.

              My point really.

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          • whatever

            Why assume you know everyone by conflating thorough research and the genuine pursuit for truth with hypothetical Assange idolatry? Seems kind of retarded. Assange is only the messenger, like a lot of other exhaustive alternative media outlets. No need to equate him to a messianic figure just to have some reason to argue over the internet. Dumb.

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      • alyssakt

        Thank you for pointing us to that Rolling Stone interview – it was very interesting indeed!! I just finished reading it – very long, but worthwhile!
        :D

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  11. Meow

    For any of you still dropping by to check in. I’ve just found this interesting piece. Please read.

    http://kangaroocourtofaustralia.com/2012/05/31/julian-assange-and-wikileaks-what-australian-politicians-know/

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  12. Meow

    Sigh…:(

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  13. Guest

    Shame, I was enjoying my ‘disagreement’ with anonymous. No point starting that off afresh though, I think the moment may have passed.

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    • Meow

      The moment’s gone.

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  14. Jackson

    MM team. You can go back to google cache pages and the 1st page of comments are all there, cant you copy and paste them??

    Edit, I just copy and pasted them into a comment. Obviously to big for one comment but it should be in your spam filter. can you pull out. format and post as a add on to this post??

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  15. Kim

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_JnOv1oItY

    A balanced look at the whole story on this you-tube. Quite clear the sex charges are a set up.

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